+New Name By end of the game I had just about 350 hours clocked in. Between real life swim team, track team, school, and a job I could only a play on the weekends. So to put it simply I started during around last thanksgiving and just finished today
Ninety hours? DAAANG! I use to put those types of hours into my Final Fantasy games, so I know the type of love you must have invested in this type of project and game. Awesome review Derek, Persona is definitely a series worth checking out!
Suki8854 I've defeated Nyx with ease. I was surprised how many Life bars he has. Then, when I've gone back to fight him again, when he had the last bar, he used Night Queen and Yukari healed him up to MAX!
Which fall in to the plot as well. P3 is unlike P4 and P5, where they have a strict goal (rescue people anf steal heart, respectively). The goal of P3 casts to go into Tartarus is to explore and training.
@@joshuaijaola2145 Yeah BeatemUps is cool, one of his videos last month it was about JRPG's and he said Persona 4 Golden is his favorite JRPG of all time. It was pretty gnarly to see that for me as a fanatical Megaten fan.
i was real depressed because i recently sold my ps4 to buy a pc, and then heard about persona 5's release. i might never get to play that game all the way through, but i can play personas 1-4 i guess.
Persona 3's the best game for your entry to the series. 5's actually quite lacking in content in comparison to 3/4, and feels quite rushed (along with having an easily predictable plot...seriously, no one I've talked to have been surprised by anything in the game except the final boss being revealed, and even then, that's 'cause it's completely out of nowhere). 4's plot, if you're really paying attention, is easy to predict - a cop talks to you about murders and clearly tries to lead you on. I woooooonder who the villain is? Whilst 4/5 give you the option to control your characters, 3 and onward weren't meant to be played while controlling every character - it just became an option 'cause a bunch of people complained that it wasn't one. And even then, the basic AI isn't half bad, provided you're playing with understanding of the combat system from the beginning, or can at least use the tactics menu with some decency, or at least realize that below a certain amount of health the AI will heal you.
I've put about 20hrs into the psp ver, and I assume it was re balanced, because I don't remember it being too hard. I'm not sure how you keep at this, but here's to another great rpg review!
Avalanche Reviews Yeah, in the PSP version you have control over everyone, so you can pretty much heal whenever you want. P3 FES though... Well, for instance earlier I was fighting a boss, and was down to 2/3 hitpoints. Had had Yukari set as heal/support tactics, so when her turn rolled around, every time she was casting wind-break on all of the boss shadows rather than healing me. Incredibly frustrating, since another shadow was casting buff skills on the attacker in the group... Then again, maybe I just suck! xD
...You, uh...you realized that the PSP version's AI was already a downgrade of the original game, which, in of itself, was actually a downgrade of FES, since FES is the actual, REAL, Persona 3 that we just didn't get at first.
@Retendo yeah there are certain things you can do to get characters to do what you want. for instance if an enemy is weak to fire and you go first, then junpei, if you weaken an enemy enough for junpei to kill it with a melee atack he will do a melee attack, but if you skip your turn he will put them all down with fire for an all out attack. that's just on act freely, so i'm sure you can control their actions much further when you fully understand all the different commands.
Well, I always thought Persona was weird, without ever really knowing about it much, but this entry is just, bizarre, the story and gameplay choices are certainly strange. I have always seen the social aspect that is apart of Persona as cool, but, not something I would enjoy, even in a game as apart of the gameplay mechanic. But leave it to the Super Derek to still leave intrigue in me, one day I'm sure I will pick this up and give it a try. Great review Derek! You're goddamn crazy for putting in so many hours into this game! x3
Great review! Shortcomings aside, I really loved P3. I haven't played a Persona game before or since not including P4 Arena but it's a series I really want to go back to.
I will add that I agree with all your points on the bad. It's one of my favorites for the story but a lot of the gameplay elements you mentioned needed work. Luckily they fixed most of those problems in persona 4.
Billy Badass I'm the same as you, games are not supposed to stick to reality all the time, otherwise I wouldn't be playing them. Mario games story never made sense, a giant turtle kidnapping a human princess in a mushroom world saved by a plumber, you never see anybody complain about it though. I don't get why some people start to whine about things and can't just accept them as they are, this is the definition of fantasy for me and I love it just the way it is. Nothing strange about us man, it's these people who are the strange ones.
I was thinking of replaying Persona 3 on the expert difficulty then doing The Answer. The Answer seems to be the expert difficulty. One thing that makes it a pain in the ass is the boss placement. You have to climb several levels and then fight the boss with no save point in between. The bosses are already tough enough and makes it even more frustrating considering one would have to trek all the way back to fight it again.
Thank you for the honest review! Man If I did not have save states (I own the game physically so shush) persona 3 would have been more than a giant pain in the ass to play, and I only used save states sparingly.This game was no doubt flawed, but the flaws were fixed as far as I can tell in persona 4 (currently playing). This game does need a better rerelease that I would love to play even if the only change was being able to control all of the characters!.
Blueiii P3P is a rerelease that let's ypu control all the party member s along with having the option to play as a Female protagonist, unfortunately it also removes the anime cutscenes and 3D city exploring outside of Tartarus.... They basically added a lot of mechanics from Persona 4!!!! 😍😍😍😍😉
Persona 3 FES has a lot of interesting things, but I don't like how the game is way more into grinding rather than doing an actual exploration on an interesting place like Persona 5. There are things which I'd like to see brought in the next persona game though. Among these things are: the fusion spells, the fact that you fight the demons and not some ugly-ass shadows, keep the palaces interesting, more weapons for the protagonist and not so many elements. I mean you get 10 different kinds of attacks in P5 and 9 in P3 FES so yeah, I strongly believe they should stay at 9 elements and only 1 should be physical. Also, I wish Atlus didn't randomly switch the names of different items... Like in P5 it's called a Physical ointment, but in the previous persona games and Nocturne it's called Attack mirror. It really gets to me when they do that. Furthermore, I don't want to see dialogue options that have not meaning. Such as in P5 where you sometimes get a choice similar to the this: Op1: Let's go. Op2: We should get going. Like the fucks this choice? It's literally the exact same thing...
Since I'm responding to a comment made 8 months ago, I assume you're already finished with the game. However, its best to wait until the near end of the game to grind to max level. It's easier that way, of course, like most other games. I spent probably 72 hours in total in one playthrough with getting to level 90 and maxing about 16/22 social links.
Same! The day to day social stuff was my favorite part of the game. I hated going into Tartarus and even when I did I would only do like 5 ish floors and then get the hell outta there haha
Not playing this game is my biggest gaming regret. I completed Persona 4 Golden on the Vita and just loved it. I then bought Persona 1, 2 and 3 through the digital shop. Then, I made the mistake of trying to play Persona 1. It was so dated that I just couldn't get with it, specially after just playing Persona 4 Golden. I then decided it was time to play something else. In the back of my mind, I was saving Persona 3 on my Vita for a big trip or maybe a situation where I have to commute a lot. That never happened and so I never actually played it. I sold my Vita when I got a Switch. I thought Persona 3 is probably going to be available on the Switch at some point, or maybe I can download it on my PS4 at some point. WRONG! It's so frustrating that Persona 3 is not available by any means on current consoles.
Super Derek I'm taking alot of cues from your reviews to hopefully make one as awesome as yours! (Currently working on a Xenogears review). btw I didn't realize it at first but you're the same guy who let Wood crash at your house on his pickups episode right??? Awesome man!
***** That's a great complement, thank you! And yep! Wood stayed here, and we also did a collab video on his channel a long while back, "The Super Game Quest" :)
Thanks for the review Derek! I've just reached Dec 5 in Persona 4 Golden and I heard that it is nearly the end of the game so I'm looking for something to fill the void after I finish that game. But hearing that you can't control your party members is kinda a deal-breaker to me. Do you really think that P3FES is better than P3P even with that flaw? Not to mention that if I heard correctly P3P not just misses the second campaing but even the anime cutscenes too.
I like the psp version simply because I have full control of my characters. I also have the game off PSN, which I played only for the Answer. I like P4 over this one, and P2(dungeons were confusing). But that final boss music. That's some sexy ass music.
Wow, Super Derek, 90 hours of game time! That's more time than I've played in months. Too much TH-cam, not enough gaming... I'm still enjoying your reviews of the Persona series. These are new to me and it's cool to hear about them. Watching the kids shoot themselves to summon is a bit weird, but I'll allow it ;) I think it's the music, writing, and visuals that give these series such a unique and cool vibe. I really want to play them someday. I still have to beat Shin Megami Tensei on SNES first. Anyway, great review as always dude. Could have spent more time with those beautiful ladies on the beach.
I don't like hard gameplay, souls type etc. but I don't rember having any difficulties with Persona 3 though. And I never realized main hero actually dies in the end. Great review, but you broke my heart.
I love P3. It's just so great: the story, gameplay, the characters (even the social link ones), the music (even though I don't like jpop at all, the soundtrack fits really well in this game). And despite the artificial dumbness, I think battle's actually really cool, it's hard and challenging, especially in The Answer. About Tartarus... yeah, it's repetitive, but has it's charms.
I hate the constant bitching about the "not controllable party members" aspect of P3 in nearly every review of the game. Not being able to control your party was fully intended by the makers, to give you a stronger sense of immersion. It gives you the feeling of having individuals with their own personality/mind fighting alongside you, while you project yourself into the main character. Yes, they f**** up sometimes, but i`d even go so far as to say that also was intended and giving the AI a certain aspect of human error. As you mentioned, you get strategy choices later on, which, even moreso, underlines my argument. Persona is all about bonds and as the bonds with your team grow you get more control over them, as it would be in real life. That also leads into another theme of the game (and is beeing underlined by your growing stratgic commands): Understanding each other. Direct control would just ruin so much of the impact the game has on the player and it`s message... The whole aspect really reminds me of another masterpiece of JRPG: Lunar 2. In Lunar 2 it was a deliberate choice not to give you control over Lucia, the second, if not most important character of the game. Lucia at first only fights for herself, but as the game progresses her AI becomes more and more a teamplayer. It`s the same thing in P3, but on a larger scale.
+DesMondesBlut Fair point, but it's not enjoyable to die because you're team fucked up. The player doesn't like being punished for something almost completely out of their control. And the only real way to prevent such as situation is to overlevel up the rest of your party to the point where if they do mess up then nothing too bad occurs. However, that makes the rest of the game much more boring as there is no remaining challenge. I think giving you control of your party members but giving you the option to play like how it was in P3 is was a smart move by atlus as to appease both groups of people
I totally agree with you. Creators made this to be close to reality. Honestly I see this whole "not controlling party members" as a good thing. Same with dying in the battle, sorry but it's how it supposed to be! You fight with enemy for example on battle field and someone shoots you = you die, simply as that. No one magicly turns your endurance up so stop bitching about that already. It only makes people into whiny spoiled brats. Plus whole aspect of the game is about accepting death and learning to deal with this.
It`s not about being a fanboy or not. Not being able to control your party directly but through indirect strategy is just much more realistic. You wouldn`t shout to your teammates "use maragi now" or "mediarmama!" evertime something needs to be done and your teammates wouldn`t patiently wait for your command before doing anything. Instead you give indirect strategic commands... That would happen in any real life situatuion, so stop arguing giving direct commands would be more realistic in terms of plot.
I really enjoyed Persona 3 FES back when I played it and found the story interesting, the Dark Hour fights in Tartarus fun, and the fusion system engrossing. I liked the social links somewhat but they were better executed in the next game. I did find the character of Igor to be a disappointing replacement for Philemon, however.
Based on what you said about the save system, this game might be one to play on an emulator. I know using save states sort of takes you away from the console experience a bit but in this case it would alleviate a lot of the frustration of losing game time and progress. It's too bad this game didn't have the same system of issuing commands to all party members like in Persona 4, otherwise it could have been the superior of the two games. Many people seem to like the story and darker theme/atmosphere of this game.
madcapper6 Persona 3 Portable allows you to control the party members and also has a female main character, whose story line is slightly different. However, it has no anime cutscenes, no 3D characters and environment except in Tarturus, and doesn't have "The Answer".
I cant find that song from the into anywhere, i have the soundtrack to the original and FES but i just cant find it. Does anybody know the exact name of it?
Simply Okami No worries! I had to dig forever to find the song for the review too, because I didn't realize that this song was a marathon that changed so much throughout the song. Glad I could help though! :)
Persona 3 and hitting 3k subscribers, coincidence? ;) Haha, congratulations on the channel milestone! I really enjoyed this game from start to finish. I completely understand your feelings about the "deadly sins" the game commits. I really didn't like not being in full control of the party, but it does add challenge. I did also have issues with the main character dying meaning game over. I went into battles a number of times with the wrong Persona equipped and was taken out because the enemy had the advantage. Even still, despite this issue, I think it's a great game. I can't wait to see your conclusion next time! :)
RPGtourguide Yeah, and it's even worse in The Answer so far. I've gone in to battle a boss, perfectly leveled and everything with the right persona, only to have one of the bosses dodge my attack, and take me out immediately after that. It's brutal. And thanks! :)
If you have a PC powerful enough to play this on PCSX2... DO IT. There’s a mod for this game that allows you to control all your party members and it’s 1000 times more enjoyable.
In “Persona 3 Portable” you can control your WHOLE party like in “Persona’s 4&5”. This is why I feel “Persona 3 Portable” is the best version of Persona 3, especially for newcomers. You do lose the animated cut scenes but the visual novel replacements look great. I also love the story and characters in “Persona 3” also. I would LOVE to see “P3P” get ported to the Nintendo Switch along with “Persona 4 Golden”!
I've been playing it a bit, but had to put it down for a week for a business trip. So far I think it feels like a direct evolution of Persona 4, but with some new stealth elements during the dungeons that work really well. I'll have more to say on it in a few weeks. :)
actually, the answer takes more than 30 hours to complete just because the time you spend level and persona grinding will make it go around an extra 10 to 20 hours or so. Also the definitive version is Persona 3 FES due to it holding the true ending to Persona 3 as well as adding to the fact that the female protagonist in persona 3 portable was not a cannon character and "is not a character just for female players, but more for veterans of persona 3 and persona 3 fes"~Persona 3 Portable, 2010.
mmomario12 Yeah, I just finished The Answer, and ended up with a save file saying I spent 29:10 playing the game, but for all the times I've died and lost progress, and had to try again, I'd say it's easily 35-40 hours of total gameplay.
I really like P3, but it has nothing on P4. Surprised based on the reviews you've done so far that you'd be interested in a game like this. Also I greatly prefer Persona 3 Portable, because you can control your teammates, but you also get a more visual novel style of story presentation which I can see why someone wouldn't like.
Nice review! I love seeing a reviewer who puts the time into discussing plot/character development in RPGs. I feel like these aspects get tossed by the wayside in many RPG reviews. How do you decide when to put live action, in front of the camera, portions in your reviews? Does it come down to time constraints? Personally, I think getting in front of the camera for reviews (especially when the game is an RPG) gives an important personal connection with the viewer. Just saying, I like the reviews where you talk in front of the camera best. Just one guys opinion!
Zero Counts Oh definitely! I like to do little things to each video I shoot in order to try to help them stand out and keep myself trying new things. These illustrations are just for Persona games, I made them to try to emulate the style I loved from when I played P3 and P4 a few years back. And thanks! I do love some battle systems, but if the plot and characters aren't interesting to me, I eventually lose steam. I also make a point of beating each game before starting the review too, because even good books with bad endings deserve to have points docked. :)
Whoa. Definitely didn't make the connection that you only started doing that for the Persona reviews. Now that that's cleared up - very cool idea! Sorry I didn't catch on.
My experience kind of sucked on one level because in January the game put so much emphasis that I needed to train, so I think I put in too much time grinding which was why Nyx was incredibly easy. I played P3P and tbh I'm happy to leave it at that-I'll watch the answer online.
Persona 3 in my PS2 was my first Persona game. I think I tried another Shin Megami Tensei game before that, but I didn't like that one for some reason, so I started P3 with a little apprehension. But I did like it a lot! Then P4 came almost right after it and I loved it even more. Unfortunately they stopped making Personas until recently, I don't want EA's yearly game flood, but you know, it's now 6 years after P4 was released!
Personally, yeah I would go with the FES release because exploring the school and town in 3D is kind of important to me. If you don't mind that point-and-click style of gameplay outside of the main dungeon and combat, then P3 Portable would be the way to go because it grants you control over the entire party. Hopefully Atlus will port an updated version of this game to Steam or something and make the choice easier.
I haven't played Persona since Revelations on the PS1, and I've wanted to get back into the series due to all the hype these games get, but this review is kinda discouraging. Monotonous 250+ level dungeon that takes 90 hour to complete, and unforgiving battles.. does the story and game play really make up for those glaring issues? Excellent video by the way.
I don't have much issue with putting a lot of time into a game, but that tower just sounds.. painful. Reminds me of the Chrysler Building from Parasite Eve.
The Game Grinder This game isn't too grind heavy and there are quests that help give the few grindy moments some flavor. I am a huge fan of the randomly generated dungeons ala nethack, and the mystery dungeon series, but something about tartarus was repetitive and dull. Having said that you really don't spend a lot of time in tartarus, for about every hour I spent there I would spend about 2 hours doing something else. I would rate this game up there with some of my favorite jrpgs but my god I would be lying if I said I didn't want it to just end at points. If the art style/music/story/fusions appeal to you I'd suggest at least trying it because despite its short comings it really does give some awesome experiences in return.
let's be honest, Shin megami tensei is my favorite rpg series, but most of those games have a big flaws. It's kind of a thing to accept before playing any smt!
Get Persona 3 Portable. You can control your full team and they will save you from death. It doesn't contain the FES additions though (I never played FES so I don't know if you miss anything. Still would pick Portable).
I'm a little disappointed the review doesn't include story spoilers but it's okay since the review of The Answer will probably be filled with spoilers.
PheseantNetsuke Yeah, I tend to try to avoid spoilers as best as I can so as not to spoil the game for anyone, but I think that I'll make an exception for "The Answer."
I'm sorry but what version of velvet room plays at the beginning of the review it sounds faster then the one from persona 3 but I can't find it anywhere
You should have played Persona 3 Portable. What you gain far out weighs what you loose. I tried playing through FES to experience the animated sequences and the epilogue but never finished.
+Cesar „Isaac“ Perez I`d disagree, i played and completed P3, P3 FES and (only recently) P3 Portable and the PSP version definitely lacks in atmosphere. The removal of the 3D exploration AND 3D ingame engine cutscenes takes away most of the emotional impact, resulting in a bit "sterile" experience. The direct party control makes the game ridicuously easy and Tartarus feels much less threatening almost to the degree of being a joke. I`d still suggest to play the PSP game after having beaten FES, but only for the female MC... I won`t play the PSP version again though.
Wow thought i was the only jrpg lover who couldnt really get into persona 3. Loved the concept and style but found the gameplay abyssmal. Have you tried the 5th entry in the series? Does it remedy some of the faults you bring up in this review?
I am afraid I have to disagree. I was actually surprised most of the time (except Mitsuru's flaw of casting charm spells almost every second turn) how well the AI held up. I felt most of the time that I was with a team working together in battle. And for a game in 2006, that was no mean feat. The deadly sins listed got it half right, it wasn't only because you could die and instant death was always a possibility that was frustrating: It was that the game over screen was unskippable and you had to wait a significant amount of time before reloading.... ruining the flow. I hate that preachy game over screen to this day.
My biggest problem with Persona 3 FES, P3P, and P4 is that I often ignored the dungeon crawling in favor of the sim gameplay. I often had to start over at key points and replay the game. P4 helped with this though with it's deadlines. P3 just left the responsibility up to you, and for me, I was failing at it pretty horrendously. But it's also because I really don't like dungeon crawling in games. And that's my problem with P3P, it became point and click and killed the immersion for me. Good luck with the Answer, iirc it's mostly a dungeon crawler with big boss fights.
Brad Cook *exactly!* I honestly could have just played this as an interactive novel and been just happy. Each time I had to go to tartarus it was like waking up from an awesome dream and remembering that I have to go to work. xD
Since we won't be getting P5 the Royal (thanks atlus) on the Nintendo switch, we should be asking for the previous installments on the main series of the persona games . Specifically: Persona 3 FES , and Persona 4 Golden. I'm just throwing out my idea for persona games here , which I think is far better than the dance/warriors/chibby shit we would most likely get
You seemed to have had trouble with things I didn't. Like some of the bosses but I found that I leveled with the floors pretty well, and where there were times I died, like you said you do seem to keep coming back to it within a week. Although yes the fucking dying thing pisses me off, I once forgot to save before going to tartarus and lost 30 minutes. Though I do understand why they don't have a quick save, because of tartarus and saving at certain floors
Aight so I'm like one of the few persona fans who really hates the non Femc route of p3 every characters arc besides Junpei is some variety of rushed Akihiko and Yukari's are the least rushed Ken Mitsuru and Fuuka have the most rushed arcs the game moves at needlessly slow pace I would argue the games narrative doesn't even start until the last 3rd of the game and even still it moves at a snails pace the gameplay isn't that bad my two biggest problems are Tartarus it's visually uninteresting and feels disconnected from the rest of the game until the last month and like the two times Takiya calls it the tower of demise my other problem is what I call artificial difficulty where the game has enemy's that can one shot you (I'm not talking about insta kill spells) the vast majority of social links are mediocre or just plain bad (But this is fixed in the FEMC route in p3p) the only ones that stood out to me were Akinari The old couple Kaz and Bebe the ladder two are for more personal reasons this I a small nit pick but shooting yourself in head feels like bait for edge lords sonic fans the game for the majority of the time isn't even competent the only time I felt anything other then Boredom or Frustration was the last month and any scene with Junpei and Chidori the game is like 4.5/10 if I'm feeling nice but today I'm not so it's like 3/10
P3P is its own game. It's not a port of FES. You even go into detail about how they are completely different. It's like saying resident evil remake is a port. No, it's an updated rerelease.
You're telling me I have to scale all of tartarus at one time? Is that just a dungeon or is it the entire game? Does it take long? Will I not be able to get through it if I dont have enough items? Oh Im only 3 hours into persona 4 and the whole series is starting to seem like a mix of the things I really like and really hate. It's making me anxious because before i bought the game I didnt know anything about it and only thought of how stylish it was, how the characters looked so cool, and how the game was appealing from the cover art and name alone.
No no not all at one time. You're given one entire in-game year to get through it. Tartarus is the only dungeon in the entire game but each floor is different everytime u go back in and the theme changes every 10 or 20 floors. There are teleport pads every 10 floors so u can go in, do as many floors as u want, and teleport back out. Then the next day u go back and start where u left off the last time.
Hi SuperDerek. I realize this is an old vid. I love RPGs the most. So i played p3 a few years ago and felt like the levels were bland. And the monster or spirit hunting was tediously wrapped around a dating sim(my opinion). So my question is... Is P5 more of the same or did it possibly graduate from high school? Everyone seems to think this is a great game. Ty
I didn't find the game all that hard Other than not controlling party members (though you could adjust their tactics), almost every challenge could be overcome by creating the right persona or making a setup for it. I only ever played this game on Hard and even Nyx wasn't that bad (and only took one try with 2 close calls) at Level 70. I think the most RNG I encountered with a boss was the three birds at the start merely because one miss could usually spell a game over that early in on Hard Mode. But afterwards it wasn't really all that bad (for me at least)
The dungeons are much worse, imo. But it's still a lot of fun. I would recommend binge-exploring Tartarus in as few nights as possible to maximize time you can spend doing other stuff at night. Good luck!
this game was difficult but I don't think its as difficult as you say. I remember beating this game a while ago, I agree with the tartarus floors though, they were kinda monotonous
I haven't played P3P yet unfortunately. I'd like to make time to do so at some point, but from my understanding it's all very, very similar, but P3P plays more like a point-and-click adventure in between making your way through Tartarus.
After finishing P5R, and being a JRPG fan for 25-30 years, I really wanted to play some older Persona's. I beat either the first or second "back in the day" but can't remember wish...anyway, thanks for saving me the gut punch of P3. Hard pass.
this was the first megaten game i ever play and i love it.... is a shame i could never finish it though. and restarting a 90hrs rpg is heavy work. maybe... someday...
Diego Banega Oh I know! And the whole Game Plus mode? I would love to blast through it again and worry less about hitting so many social links, but I think even if you blasted past the dungeon sections, you're still looking at another 40 hours at least! Maybe when I'm old and grey, and forget how long the game is I'll give it another run through... Or maybe if Atlus decides to make an HD rerelease.
suikoden was the only game that have you an option at one point, and if you choose the wrong answer multiple times you got a very depressing broken game .
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264 floors.......I'm 55 hours in and only on 122...I grind too much...
+New Name By end of the game I had just about 350 hours clocked in. Between real life swim team, track team, school, and a job I could only a play on the weekends. So to put it simply I started during around last thanksgiving and just finished today
New Name AYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Danny Brown
By halfway in I had around 300 real hours clocked in...
done yet?
One of my favorite game of all time, amazing overall theme, atmosphere, story and soundtracks
Ninety hours? DAAANG! I use to put those types of hours into my Final Fantasy games, so I know the type of love you must have invested in this type of project and game.
Awesome review Derek, Persona is definitely a series worth checking out!
I've put 140 hours on my first run and I've immediately started a NG+, I can't have enough of this game
As long as you grind, this game isn't that hard. I can see why people hate grinding, but I'm patient and do it anyway because I know it will pay off.
+Brandon Howell because you only have like a few days to grind and scale the tower
I don't even try to get to the same level as the newcomer/teammates...so i'm pretty happy. And when the boss fights come, I just roll with it. lolol
Suki8854 I've defeated Nyx with ease. I was surprised how many Life bars he has. Then, when I've gone back to fight him again, when he had the last bar, he used Night Queen and Yukari healed him up to MAX!
It's also perfect for those who are just bored.
Which fall in to the plot as well. P3 is unlike P4 and P5, where they have a strict goal (rescue people anf steal heart, respectively). The goal of P3 casts to go into Tartarus is to explore and training.
The Game Collection and The Game Quest should do a cross over ep!
***** "The Quest Collection!"
Wait, I didn’t know you I Ike’s persona.
@@joshuaijaola2145 Yeah BeatemUps is cool, one of his videos last month it was about JRPG's and he said Persona 4 Golden is his favorite JRPG of all time. It was pretty gnarly to see that for me as a fanatical Megaten fan.
@@SuperDerek btw sense game compines suck unless you emulate theres no way to get this game when the ps3 store dies (or you can pay like $80+)
This game is your point of entry to the Persona series.
i was real depressed because i recently sold my ps4 to buy a pc, and then heard about persona 5's release. i might never get to play that game all the way through, but i can play personas 1-4 i guess.
Do you have PS3? Persona 5 is on the PS3 too
Is it sad that i got Persona 3 on the ps3 in 2017 and its my entry to the series
Persona 3's the best game for your entry to the series. 5's actually quite lacking in content in comparison to 3/4, and feels quite rushed (along with having an easily predictable plot...seriously, no one I've talked to have been surprised by anything in the game except the final boss being revealed, and even then, that's 'cause it's completely out of nowhere). 4's plot, if you're really paying attention, is easy to predict - a cop talks to you about murders and clearly tries to lead you on. I woooooonder who the villain is? Whilst 4/5 give you the option to control your characters, 3 and onward weren't meant to be played while controlling every character - it just became an option 'cause a bunch of people complained that it wasn't one. And even then, the basic AI isn't half bad, provided you're playing with understanding of the combat system from the beginning, or can at least use the tactics menu with some decency, or at least realize that below a certain amount of health the AI will heal you.
@@tataladdd4251 im playing persona 5 on pc with an emulator at 60fps xD. Pc master race. I even finished Zelda botw with emulator
This game is amazing still in 2020. Addicting and so stylish. Great music, great visuals, and great (and weird) story!
I've put about 20hrs into the psp ver, and I assume it was re balanced, because I don't remember it being too hard. I'm not sure how you keep at this, but here's to another great rpg review!
Avalanche Reviews Yeah, in the PSP version you have control over everyone, so you can pretty much heal whenever you want. P3 FES though... Well, for instance earlier I was fighting a boss, and was down to 2/3 hitpoints. Had had Yukari set as heal/support tactics, so when her turn rolled around, every time she was casting wind-break on all of the boss shadows rather than healing me. Incredibly frustrating, since another shadow was casting buff skills on the attacker in the group...
Then again, maybe I just suck! xD
Thank goodness you can control all characters in the PSP version.
I have PSP version and yet never controlled my party members since in whole honestly the game would be boring if I did this
...You, uh...you realized that the PSP version's AI was already a downgrade of the original game, which, in of itself, was actually a downgrade of FES, since FES is the actual, REAL, Persona 3 that we just didn't get at first.
@@wat5058 Mitsuru doesn't marin Karin every turn in psp though
Well I know the version I’m playing
@Retendo yeah there are certain things you can do to get characters to do what you want. for instance if an enemy is weak to fire and you go first, then junpei, if you weaken an enemy enough for junpei to kill it with a melee atack he will do a melee attack, but if you skip your turn he will put them all down with fire for an all out attack. that's just on act freely, so i'm sure you can control their actions much further when you fully understand all the different commands.
First, this game is legendary, one of my all time favorites!
What's second?
AverageInternetUser your mom gay
yo what's second
Well, I always thought Persona was weird, without ever really knowing about it much, but this entry is just, bizarre, the story and gameplay choices are certainly strange. I have always seen the social aspect that is apart of Persona as cool, but, not something I would enjoy, even in a game as apart of the gameplay mechanic.
But leave it to the Super Derek to still leave intrigue in me, one day I'm sure I will pick this up and give it a try. Great review Derek! You're goddamn crazy for putting in so many hours into this game! x3
The social aspect is the best part of this game in my opinion! Did u ever end up checking this game out?
Great review! Shortcomings aside, I really loved P3. I haven't played a Persona game before or since not including P4 Arena but it's a series I really want to go back to.
i like this more than P4.
they're pretty even for me, both doing some things better than the other.
I will add that I agree with all your points on the bad. It's one of my favorites for the story but a lot of the gameplay elements you mentioned needed work. Luckily they fixed most of those problems in persona 4.
so this is what was second
I've never found the premise strange in p3,4, or 5. Maybe it's me?
Billy Badass I'm the same as you, games are not supposed to stick to reality all the time, otherwise I wouldn't be playing them. Mario games story never made sense, a giant turtle kidnapping a human princess in a mushroom world saved by a plumber, you never see anybody complain about it though. I don't get why some people start to whine about things and can't just accept them as they are, this is the definition of fantasy for me and I love it just the way it is. Nothing strange about us man, it's these people who are the strange ones.
For jrpgs, they are very grounded. You can't really be playing the jrpg genre if you're not able to suspend your disbelief
how is the story weird? like 4 and 5 arent?
@@MrSerpico145 I think 5 handled it well.
yeah all these games have weird stories, but that's some of the charm to it.
I mean 5 kinda explained everything pretty well and it made sense to me
I was thinking of replaying Persona 3 on the expert difficulty then doing The Answer. The Answer seems to be the expert difficulty. One thing that makes it a pain in the ass is the boss placement. You have to climb several levels and then fight the boss with no save point in between. The bosses are already tough enough and makes it even more frustrating considering one would have to trek all the way back to fight it again.
Andrew Phillips I don’t know if you remember or you played the answer but right before a boss you get a save
Nice hearing super derek opinion in one of my favorite games
Persona 3 is my favorite of the new games. I still like the Mainline Shin Megami Tensei series better though. Glad that you got around to playing it.
this game rocks ive finished this game on psp. had so much fun.
Thank you for the honest review! Man If I did not have save states (I own the game physically so shush) persona 3 would have been more than a giant pain in the ass to play, and I only used save states sparingly.This game was no doubt flawed, but the flaws were fixed as far as I can tell in persona 4 (currently playing). This game does need a better rerelease that I would love to play even if the only change was being able to control all of the characters!.
Blueiii I don't really care if you own the game physically or not cause the console already died anyway lol
Blueiii P3P is a rerelease that let's ypu control all the party member s along with having the option to play as a Female protagonist, unfortunately it also removes the anime cutscenes and 3D city exploring outside of Tartarus.... They basically added a lot of mechanics from Persona 4!!!! 😍😍😍😍😉
Persona 3 FES has a lot of interesting things, but I don't like how the game is way more into grinding rather than doing an actual exploration on an interesting place like Persona 5.
There are things which I'd like to see brought in the next persona game though. Among these things are: the fusion spells, the fact that you fight the demons and not some ugly-ass shadows, keep the palaces interesting, more weapons for the protagonist and not so many elements. I mean you get 10 different kinds of attacks in P5 and 9 in P3 FES so yeah, I strongly believe they should stay at 9 elements and only 1 should be physical.
Also, I wish Atlus didn't randomly switch the names of different items... Like in P5 it's called a Physical ointment, but in the previous persona games and Nocturne it's called Attack mirror. It really gets to me when they do that. Furthermore, I don't want to see dialogue options that have not meaning. Such as in P5 where you sometimes get a choice similar to the this:
Op1: Let's go.
Op2: We should get going.
Like the fucks this choice? It's literally the exact same thing...
I have 137 hours in persona 3 and I am still not done. nearly there but not done. how tf do you guys best the game in under 100 hours
Since I'm responding to a comment made 8 months ago, I assume you're already finished with the game. However, its best to wait until the near end of the game to grind to max level. It's easier that way, of course, like most other games. I spent probably 72 hours in total in one playthrough with getting to level 90 and maxing about 16/22 social links.
Tyrainaeus Damn fr, I finished my play though in about 73 hours but I only maxed out like 12 s. links and got to p. level 85
am I the only one who played the game more for the non-combat parts. I didnt fight in the tartarus all that much.
Same! The day to day social stuff was my favorite part of the game. I hated going into Tartarus and even when I did I would only do like 5 ish floors and then get the hell outta there haha
Not playing this game is my biggest gaming regret.
I completed Persona 4 Golden on the Vita and just loved it.
I then bought Persona 1, 2 and 3 through the digital shop. Then, I made the mistake of trying to play Persona 1. It was so dated that I just couldn't get with it, specially after just playing Persona 4 Golden.
I then decided it was time to play something else. In the back of my mind, I was saving Persona 3 on my Vita for a big trip or maybe a situation where I have to commute a lot. That never happened and so I never actually played it.
I sold my Vita when I got a Switch. I thought Persona 3 is probably going to be available on the Switch at some point, or maybe I can download it on my PS4 at some point. WRONG!
It's so frustrating that Persona 3 is not available by any means on current consoles.
It's truly a massive disservice to their fans that Atlus has not given us a definitive way to play Persona 3 on PC, or Switch for that matter.
Amazing review Derek!!
***** Thank you very much! :)
Super Derek I'm taking alot of cues from your reviews to hopefully make one as awesome as yours! (Currently working on a Xenogears review). btw I didn't realize it at first but you're the same guy who let Wood crash at your house on his pickups episode right??? Awesome man!
***** That's a great complement, thank you! And yep! Wood stayed here, and we also did a collab video on his channel a long while back, "The Super Game Quest" :)
Thanks for the review Derek!
I've just reached Dec 5 in Persona 4 Golden and I heard that it is nearly the end of the game so I'm looking for something to fill the void after I finish that game.
But hearing that you can't control your party members is kinda a deal-breaker to me.
Do you really think that P3FES is better than P3P even with that flaw?
Not to mention that if I heard correctly P3P not just misses the second campaing but even the anime cutscenes too.
I like the psp version simply because I have full control of my characters. I also have the game off PSN, which I played only for the Answer. I like P4 over this one, and P2(dungeons were confusing). But that final boss music. That's some sexy ass music.
Not the actual game
@@raidoukuzonoha883 What do you mean?
@@18ps3anos P3P isn't P3 it's like a whole other game with how different it Is
@@raidoukuzonoha883 But why tho? It's the same story, same characters, same gameplay.
@@raidoukuzonoha883 the only difference is no FMVs and in engine cutscenes, its the exact same game lmao
Wow, Super Derek, 90 hours of game time! That's more time than I've played in months. Too much TH-cam, not enough gaming... I'm still enjoying your reviews of the Persona series. These are new to me and it's cool to hear about them. Watching the kids shoot themselves to summon is a bit weird, but I'll allow it ;)
I think it's the music, writing, and visuals that give these series such a unique and cool vibe. I really want to play them someday. I still have to beat Shin Megami Tensei on SNES first. Anyway, great review as always dude. Could have spent more time with those beautiful ladies on the beach.
I don't like hard gameplay, souls type etc. but I don't rember having any difficulties with Persona 3 though. And I never realized main hero actually dies in the end. Great review, but you broke my heart.
I love P3. It's just so great: the story, gameplay, the characters (even the social link ones), the music (even though I don't like jpop at all, the soundtrack fits really well in this game). And despite the artificial dumbness, I think battle's actually really cool, it's hard and challenging, especially in The Answer. About Tartarus... yeah, it's repetitive, but has it's charms.
There is some Jpop but most of the tracks are rap and rock
I hate the constant bitching about the "not controllable party members" aspect of P3 in nearly every review of the game. Not being able to control your party was fully intended by the makers, to give you a stronger sense of immersion. It gives you the feeling of having individuals with their own personality/mind fighting alongside you, while you project yourself into the main character. Yes, they f**** up sometimes, but i`d even go so far as to say that also was intended and giving the AI a certain aspect of human error. As you mentioned, you get strategy choices later on, which, even moreso, underlines my argument. Persona is all about bonds and as the bonds with your team grow you get more control over them, as it would be in real life. That also leads into another theme of the game (and is beeing underlined by your growing stratgic commands): Understanding each other. Direct control would just ruin so much of the impact the game has on the player and it`s message...
The whole aspect really reminds me of another masterpiece of JRPG: Lunar 2. In Lunar 2 it was a deliberate choice not to give you control over Lucia, the second, if not most important character of the game. Lucia at first only fights for herself, but as the game progresses her AI becomes more and more a teamplayer. It`s the same thing in P3, but on a larger scale.
+DesMondesBlut Fair point, but it's not enjoyable to die because you're team fucked up. The player doesn't like being punished for something almost completely out of their control. And the only real way to prevent such as situation is to overlevel up the rest of your party to the point where if they do mess up then nothing too bad occurs. However, that makes the rest of the game much more boring as there is no remaining challenge. I think giving you control of your party members but giving you the option to play like how it was in P3 is was a smart move by atlus as to appease both groups of people
I totally agree with you. Creators made this to be close to reality. Honestly I see this whole "not controlling party members" as a good thing. Same with dying in the battle, sorry but it's how it supposed to be! You fight with enemy for example on battle field and someone shoots you = you die, simply as that. No one magicly turns your endurance up so stop bitching about that already. It only makes people into whiny spoiled brats. Plus whole aspect of the game is about accepting death and learning to deal with this.
*****
wow if you controll everything what your friends do then I really pitty them
+audioGGG at least I'm not a giant jerk as you are. Idiot
It`s not about being a fanboy or not. Not being able to control your party directly but through indirect strategy is just much more realistic. You wouldn`t shout to your teammates "use maragi now" or "mediarmama!" evertime something needs to be done and your teammates wouldn`t patiently wait for your command before doing anything. Instead you give indirect strategic commands... That would happen in any real life situatuion, so stop arguing giving direct commands would be more realistic in terms of plot.
I really enjoyed Persona 3 FES back when I played it and found the story interesting, the Dark Hour fights in Tartarus fun, and the fusion system engrossing. I liked the social links somewhat but they were better executed in the next game. I did find the character of Igor to be a disappointing replacement for Philemon, however.
my favorite ps2 rpg
Can't wait to hear P5's music.
Based on what you said about the save system, this game might be one to play on an emulator. I know using save states sort of takes you away from the console experience a bit but in this case it would alleviate a lot of the frustration of losing game time and progress.
It's too bad this game didn't have the same system of issuing commands to all party members like in Persona 4, otherwise it could have been the superior of the two games. Many people seem to like the story and darker theme/atmosphere of this game.
madcapper6 Persona 3 Portable allows you to control the party members and also has a female main character, whose story line is slightly different. However, it has no anime cutscenes, no 3D characters and environment except in Tarturus, and doesn't have "The Answer".
Im not gonna lie, best persona 3 review ever!!! 💯
Just playing this at the moment, I’ve come here after Persona 4 & 5 and thought I’d check 3 out. BTW, you have an amazing voice!
Thanks man! :)
Man, the premise sounds really good to me
I cant find that song from the into anywhere, i have the soundtrack to the original and FES but i just cant find it.
Does anybody know the exact name of it?
Simply Okami The song is "The Battle for Everyone's Souls" :)
SuperDerek RPG Reviews Are you absolutely sure? I'm talking about the song at 0:17 seconds in.
Simply Okami Positive: th-cam.com/video/2kBqP06eDRY/w-d-xo.htmlm42s
Simply Okami I feel so dumb, yea I had the song the entire time. The last time I played Persona 3 I was 13 so sorry for the confusion!
Simply Okami No worries! I had to dig forever to find the song for the review too, because I didn't realize that this song was a marathon that changed so much throughout the song. Glad I could help though! :)
premises are so cut and paste now a days that a weird premise is a good thing, even if its a little far fetched
Persona 3 and hitting 3k subscribers, coincidence? ;) Haha, congratulations on the channel milestone! I really enjoyed this game from start to finish. I completely understand your feelings about the "deadly sins" the game commits. I really didn't like not being in full control of the party, but it does add challenge. I did also have issues with the main character dying meaning game over. I went into battles a number of times with the wrong Persona equipped and was taken out because the enemy had the advantage. Even still, despite this issue, I think it's a great game. I can't wait to see your conclusion next time! :)
RPGtourguide Yeah, and it's even worse in The Answer so far. I've gone in to battle a boss, perfectly leveled and everything with the right persona, only to have one of the bosses dodge my attack, and take me out immediately after that. It's brutal. And thanks! :)
If you have a PC powerful enough to play this on PCSX2... DO IT. There’s a mod for this game that allows you to control all your party members and it’s 1000 times more enjoyable.
Looks tons better than on ps2 as well
@@warprift1 three years later, there’s now an HD Texture mod available… so there’s really no question on the best way to experience Persona 3.
In “Persona 3 Portable” you can control your WHOLE party like in “Persona’s 4&5”. This is why I feel “Persona 3 Portable” is the best version of Persona 3, especially for newcomers. You do lose the animated cut scenes but the visual novel replacements look great. I also love the story and characters in “Persona 3” also. I would LOVE to see “P3P” get ported to the Nintendo Switch along with “Persona 4 Golden”!
Lets hope they release Persona 5R for the switch. Might be a good incentive for me to finally buy one lol
how good is the new persona 5 compared to the old ones?
I've been playing it a bit, but had to put it down for a week for a business trip. So far I think it feels like a direct evolution of Persona 4, but with some new stealth elements during the dungeons that work really well. I'll have more to say on it in a few weeks. :)
Please review Persona 4 and Golden. I love your reviews. 😘
when are you going to Do a review of P3P?
Esteban Pena only 4 owrds: it's a fucking downgrade
Esteban Pena he did mention it at the end
actually, the answer takes more than 30 hours to complete just because the time you spend level and persona grinding will make it go around an extra 10 to 20 hours or so. Also the definitive version is Persona 3 FES due to it holding the true ending to Persona 3 as well as adding to the fact that the female protagonist in persona 3 portable was not a cannon character and "is not a character just for female players, but more for veterans of persona 3 and persona 3 fes"~Persona 3 Portable, 2010.
mmomario12 Yeah, I just finished The Answer, and ended up with a save file saying I spent 29:10 playing the game, but for all the times I've died and lost progress, and had to try again, I'd say it's easily 35-40 hours of total gameplay.
I really like P3, but it has nothing on P4. Surprised based on the reviews you've done so far that you'd be interested in a game like this.
Also I greatly prefer Persona 3 Portable, because you can control your teammates, but you also get a more visual novel style of story presentation which I can see why someone wouldn't like.
LucifersKall
You can control your teammates in P3 FES (PS2) as well.
TheOwwen Your completely wrong on that one mate
Nice review! I love seeing a reviewer who puts the time into discussing plot/character development in RPGs. I feel like these aspects get tossed by the wayside in many RPG reviews.
How do you decide when to put live action, in front of the camera, portions in your reviews? Does it come down to time constraints? Personally, I think getting in front of the camera for reviews (especially when the game is an RPG) gives an important personal connection with the viewer. Just saying, I like the reviews where you talk in front of the camera best. Just one guys opinion!
Zero Counts Oh definitely! I like to do little things to each video I shoot in order to try to help them stand out and keep myself trying new things. These illustrations are just for Persona games, I made them to try to emulate the style I loved from when I played P3 and P4 a few years back.
And thanks! I do love some battle systems, but if the plot and characters aren't interesting to me, I eventually lose steam. I also make a point of beating each game before starting the review too, because even good books with bad endings deserve to have points docked. :)
Whoa. Definitely didn't make the connection that you only started doing that for the Persona reviews. Now that that's cleared up - very cool idea! Sorry I didn't catch on.
My experience kind of sucked on one level because in January the game put so much emphasis that I needed to train, so I think I put in too much time grinding which was why Nyx was incredibly easy. I played P3P and tbh I'm happy to leave it at that-I'll watch the answer online.
Best advise i can give is: as soon as you can go further in tartarus go as far as you can until you hit a blockade
Sadly I never got around to finishing this. I had the PSP version. And my PSP died :(
umm... I just started watching your channel... and just what are those 7 deadly sins?
I still haven't done a video on this yet have I... I really need to get on that!. >.
SuperDerek RPGs Yeah, I'd like to know too.
SuperDerek RPGs just discovered your channel and i want to know about the 7 sins
SuperDerek RPGs Yes please!
This game desperately needs a remaster for modern consoles.
I would settle for PC as well. :)
Persona 3 in my PS2 was my first Persona game. I think I tried another Shin Megami Tensei game before that, but I didn't like that one for some reason, so I started P3 with a little apprehension. But I did like it a lot! Then P4 came almost right after it and I loved it even more. Unfortunately they stopped making Personas until recently, I don't want EA's yearly game flood, but you know, it's now 6 years after P4 was released!
So I'm looking at playing P3 and I'm thinking, with your awesome vid in mind, that I should play the FES one?
Personally, yeah I would go with the FES release because exploring the school and town in 3D is kind of important to me. If you don't mind that point-and-click style of gameplay outside of the main dungeon and combat, then P3 Portable would be the way to go because it grants you control over the entire party. Hopefully Atlus will port an updated version of this game to Steam or something and make the choice easier.
I haven't played Persona since Revelations on the PS1, and I've wanted to get back into the series due to all the hype these games get, but this review is kinda discouraging. Monotonous 250+ level dungeon that takes 90 hour to complete, and unforgiving battles.. does the story and game play really make up for those glaring issues? Excellent video by the way.
The Game Grinder If you don't wanna sink that much time into the game and just enjoy the story you can also play on easy mode.
I don't have much issue with putting a lot of time into a game, but that tower just sounds.. painful. Reminds me of the Chrysler Building from Parasite Eve.
The Game Grinder This game isn't too grind heavy and there are quests that help give the few grindy moments some flavor. I am a huge fan of the randomly generated dungeons ala nethack, and the mystery dungeon series, but something about tartarus was repetitive and dull.
Having said that you really don't spend a lot of time in tartarus, for about every hour I spent there I would spend about 2 hours doing something else.
I would rate this game up there with some of my favorite jrpgs but my god I would be lying if I said I didn't want it to just end at points.
If the art style/music/story/fusions appeal to you I'd suggest at least trying it because despite its short comings it really does give some awesome experiences in return.
Awesome, thanks for the additional info. If I come across this in the wild at the right price, I'll have to nab a copy.
let's be honest, Shin megami tensei is my favorite rpg series, but most of those games have a big flaws. It's kind of a thing to accept before playing any smt!
he already knew about the dark hour, thats why he wasn't phased about it
Get Persona 3 Portable. You can control your full team and they will save you from death. It doesn't contain the FES additions though (I never played FES so I don't know if you miss anything. Still would pick Portable).
What ways to die is worse in persona 3, Combo to death or one shot
Hey there, what was the song from 00:18 - 1:00??
umzk786 That would be "The Battle for Everyone's Souls" :)
p3p was the first persona game I played and then I completely fell in love with the series
I'm a little disappointed the review doesn't include story spoilers but it's okay since the review of The Answer will probably be filled with spoilers.
PheseantNetsuke Yeah, I tend to try to avoid spoilers as best as I can so as not to spoil the game for anyone, but I think that I'll make an exception for "The Answer."
I'm sorry but what version of velvet room plays at the beginning of the review it sounds faster then the one from persona 3 but I can't find it anywhere
You should have played Persona 3 Portable. What you gain far out weighs what you loose. I tried playing through FES to experience the animated sequences and the epilogue but never finished.
+Cesar „Isaac“ Perez
I`d disagree, i played and completed P3, P3 FES and (only recently) P3 Portable and the PSP version definitely lacks in atmosphere. The removal of the 3D exploration AND 3D ingame engine cutscenes takes away most of the emotional impact, resulting in a bit "sterile" experience. The direct party control makes the game ridicuously easy and Tartarus feels much less threatening almost to the degree of being a joke. I`d still suggest to play the PSP game after having beaten FES, but only for the female MC... I won`t play the PSP version again though.
Wow thought i was the only jrpg lover who couldnt really get into persona 3. Loved the concept and style but found the gameplay abyssmal. Have you tried the 5th entry in the series? Does it remedy some of the faults you bring up in this review?
Hey Oskar! I sure have, and I think it really does. Here's a link to my Persona 5 review:
th-cam.com/video/F48_3mhCDUA/w-d-xo.html
ha stupid of me to miss that... Keep up the great work!
I am afraid I have to disagree. I was actually surprised most of the time (except Mitsuru's flaw of casting charm spells almost every second turn) how well the AI held up. I felt most of the time that I was with a team working together in battle. And for a game in 2006, that was no mean feat.
The deadly sins listed got it half right, it wasn't only because you could die and instant death was always a possibility that was frustrating: It was that the game over screen was unskippable and you had to wait a significant amount of time before reloading.... ruining the flow. I hate that preachy game over screen to this day.
My biggest problem with Persona 3 FES, P3P, and P4 is that I often ignored the dungeon crawling in favor of the sim gameplay. I often had to start over at key points and replay the game. P4 helped with this though with it's deadlines. P3 just left the responsibility up to you, and for me, I was failing at it pretty horrendously. But it's also because I really don't like dungeon crawling in games.
And that's my problem with P3P, it became point and click and killed the immersion for me.
Good luck with the Answer, iirc it's mostly a dungeon crawler with big boss fights.
Brad Cook *exactly!* I honestly could have just played this as an interactive novel and been just happy. Each time I had to go to tartarus it was like waking up from an awesome dream and remembering that I have to go to work. xD
Since we won't be getting P5 the Royal (thanks atlus) on the Nintendo switch, we should be asking for the previous installments on the main series of the persona games . Specifically: Persona 3 FES , and Persona 4 Golden. I'm just throwing out my idea for persona games here , which I think is far better than the dance/warriors/chibby shit we would most likely get
they are already on the PSVITA
@@pundapundapunda yeah but , vita is dead . I
You seemed to have had trouble with things I didn't. Like some of the bosses but I found that I leveled with the floors pretty well, and where there were times I died, like you said you do seem to keep coming back to it within a week. Although yes the fucking dying thing pisses me off, I once forgot to save before going to tartarus and lost 30 minutes. Though I do understand why they don't have a quick save, because of tartarus and saving at certain floors
Don't mind us just monitoring
Aight so I'm like one of the few persona fans who really hates the non Femc route of p3 every characters arc besides Junpei is some variety of rushed Akihiko and Yukari's are the least rushed Ken Mitsuru and Fuuka have the most rushed arcs the game moves at needlessly slow pace I would argue the games narrative doesn't even start until the last 3rd of the game and even still it moves at a snails pace the gameplay isn't that bad my two biggest problems are Tartarus it's visually uninteresting and feels disconnected from the rest of the game until the last month and like the two times Takiya calls it the tower of demise my other problem is what I call artificial difficulty where the game has enemy's that can one shot you (I'm not talking about insta kill spells) the vast majority of social links are mediocre or just plain bad (But this is fixed in the FEMC route in p3p) the only ones that stood out to me were Akinari The old couple Kaz and Bebe the ladder two are for more personal reasons this I a small nit pick but shooting yourself in head feels like bait for edge lords sonic fans the game for the majority of the time isn't even competent the only time I felt anything other then Boredom or Frustration was the last month and any scene with Junpei and Chidori the game is like 4.5/10 if I'm feeling nice but today I'm not so it's like 3/10
Got 1st one on psp vita is 2 or 3 any good got 4 one on psp vita put don't have ps4 so can't play 5 one I'm xbox one
I never had any problems with the combat. I dont think I died once either. You might have been underlevel or didnt have the right persona attached
now that's a sound track
P3P is its own game. It's not a port of FES. You even go into detail about how they are completely different. It's like saying resident evil remake is a port. No, it's an updated rerelease.
Subscribing to you Super Derek :) Like the way you review Niche games. Keep them reviews coming..
did the guy who drew the art for this channel also draw Mikey's Hookup's poster in NYC?
You're telling me I have to scale all of tartarus at one time? Is that just a dungeon or is it the entire game? Does it take long? Will I not be able to get through it if I dont have enough items?
Oh Im only 3 hours into persona 4 and the whole series is starting to seem like a mix of the things I really like and really hate. It's making me anxious because before i bought the game I didnt know anything about it and only thought of how stylish it was, how the characters looked so cool, and how the game was appealing from the cover art and name alone.
No no not all at one time. You're given one entire in-game year to get through it. Tartarus is the only dungeon in the entire game but each floor is different everytime u go back in and the theme changes every 10 or 20 floors. There are teleport pads every 10 floors so u can go in, do as many floors as u want, and teleport back out. Then the next day u go back and start where u left off the last time.
hey, you should totally do a review on digital devil saga 1&2!!
Hi SuperDerek. I realize this is an old vid. I love RPGs the most. So i played p3 a few years ago and felt like the levels were bland. And the monster or spirit hunting was tediously wrapped around a dating sim(my opinion). So my question is... Is P5 more of the same or did it possibly graduate from high school? Everyone seems to think this is a great game. Ty
Scott Fox p3 was my favorite before P5. P5 is way better in my opinion
Is it still a "dating sim" rpg?
Scott Fox watch his p5 review
This game was pretty good, but I could never seem to get over the whole shooting themselves in the head sorta thing.
I didn't find the game all that hard
Other than not controlling party members (though you could adjust their tactics), almost every challenge could be overcome by creating the right persona or making a setup for it.
I only ever played this game on Hard and even Nyx wasn't that bad (and only took one try with 2 close calls) at Level 70. I think the most RNG I encountered with a boss was the three birds at the start merely because one miss could usually spell a game over that early in on Hard Mode. But afterwards it wasn't really all that bad (for me at least)
I've only played p5r, what should I know before trying this?
The dungeons are much worse, imo. But it's still a lot of fun. I would recommend binge-exploring Tartarus in as few nights as possible to maximize time you can spend doing other stuff at night. Good luck!
i played only the psp one so i did'nt what are you talking about first
this game was difficult but I don't think its as difficult as you say. I remember beating this game a while ago, I agree with the tartarus floors though, they were kinda monotonous
How different is FES to P3P? Outside the Answer for the former and the playable girl in the latter?
I haven't played P3P yet unfortunately. I'd like to make time to do so at some point, but from my understanding it's all very, very similar, but P3P plays more like a point-and-click adventure in between making your way through Tartarus.
The combat and fighting in this game was easy. Don’t believe people saying that it’s hard or grindy. It’s not! Easy game really
After finishing P5R, and being a JRPG fan for 25-30 years, I really wanted to play some older Persona's. I beat either the first or second "back in the day" but can't remember wish...anyway, thanks for saving me the gut punch of P3. Hard pass.
Persona 3 FES was the first Persona or SMT game I played and I absolutely loved it. The game gives off a feeling unlike others.
this was the first megaten game i ever play and i love it.... is a shame i could never finish it though.
and restarting a 90hrs rpg is heavy work. maybe... someday...
Diego Banega Oh I know! And the whole Game Plus mode? I would love to blast through it again and worry less about hitting so many social links, but I think even if you blasted past the dungeon sections, you're still looking at another 40 hours at least! Maybe when I'm old and grey, and forget how long the game is I'll give it another run through... Or maybe if Atlus decides to make an HD rerelease.
suikoden was the only game that have you an option at one point, and if you choose the wrong answer multiple times you got a very depressing broken game .
i have all the games and i love them all even number one
Great review, but man, why did you reveal the number of floors!
Hey Super do you sometimes think Elizabeth she will save the leader of Persona 3 FES
this is actually pretty forgiving compared to some of the other shin megami tensei games
Should i get this from The PSN store for 9,95€? Is it worth it?
YES!
I like P3 but fact that you cannot control your party really ruined fun sometimes...
God finally someone who sees the flaws inP3!
I love P3 and even I can see the faults. Your treating it like people haven’t been complaining about it’s faults