WHAT IS HE PUTTING IN THOSE TIRES
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- I discovered that the tires in my Kubota L6060 Cab were in fact not filled with ballast by the dealer as I had been told. My Options: have a dealer or tire shop fill them with beet juice for an exorbitant price or find a way to add ballast myself for a lower price. After doing some research I discovered RV plumbing anti-freeze as an alternative. The main drawback of this product is that it is not as dense as beet juice. This would net about 70 Lbs less weight per tire than using beet juice but I decided that for the extreme price difference I could settle for that.
This isn't intended as a "how-to" It is experimental. As you will see I had some trouble getting the pump to work but figured it out. I show the mistakes without shame so you might learn from my experience.
What do you think was this a huge mistake?
I had a couple flats on the front of my tractor after mowing the hunting pasture several times. I stopped at the local tire shop and asked about having my 16 inch fronts foam filled, for a bit of ballast and cure it from ever going flat again. I didn't have them foamed, because I hadn't planned on taking out a bank loan at my age 😁 I bought a 12 dollar bottle of 'slime' and never looked back.
The rears are full of windshield washer fluid, done before I owned it, which makes it great for plowing and tilling my food plots and garden.
Leave some of the anti freeze out in the cold and see if it Freezes. Had some from Rural King and it freezes. Not enough alcohol in it I guess. Nice Job !
35 years ago I started using windshield washer fluid pumped out of a 5 gallon bucket, with a submersible sump pump, to fill 14.9x24 R4 backhoe tires. That outfit stayed primed and would pump a gallon of fluid into the tire in about the same time as it took me to open up the next gallon jug. Had to stop about every 8 gallons to release air from the tire. Bought fluid on sale at Walmart for $0.99 a gallon back then. ( Probably cost twice that now. ) When tires wore out, I saved the 120 gallons of fluid in barrels while rims got painted and new tires and tubes were mounted, and then pumped the old fluid back into the tires again. Washer or winterizing fluid won't damage rims the way calcium does, and is only about a pound per gallon lighter in weight.
I could not locate a washer fluid that was less expensive than this antifreeze that had an equal or lower freeze point. I had bought some washer fluid concentrate but the recipe for mixing it up required this same antifreeze or methanol to lower the freeze point. This week the forecast is for single digit Temps so I'm glad I went with a -50 freeze point.
Back in the 1980s my mom was a nurse and brought home some discarded IV hose (A different era, all that goes in HazMat now.) My dad put the buckets of antifreeze on the seat and started a siphon flowing into the valve stem and went to the house.
The next morning the antifreeze was in the tires and the buckets empty.
If someone had told me that tractor tires are filled with beet juice, I would have bet money they were pulling my leg.
Nope rim guard is a product made form the waste product of producing beet sugar. It has a density much higher than water and a very low freezing point but it was too expensive for this cowboy.
This tractor is going to take our property to another level!
What will a couple of old German leather work pants do?? OH!, you said you had some old "leader hose layin" around. I thought you said Lederhosen. (Since retiring, it seems I have too much time on my hands and I harass people!🤪😜).
The funny thing is I actually thought of making that same joke while I was filming, but opted to let the thought pass.
A T near the tire valve with a quarter turn valve to release air periodically would help. Just shut off the pump at the same time you open the release valve. Most farmers in Canada use calcium cloride solution, because it's heavier. It won't freeze at any temperature that you would run a farm tractor, and even if it froze you could still move the unit in an emergency.
If you run CaCl you might want to put it in an inner tube to save your rims from corrosion. Just saying.
There's a pressure relief button on the side of the hose/valve stem adapter.
You got lots of great comments and suggestions. One of the best is using a submersible pump with built in check valve. If that is not doable, install a simple pvc check valve on the suction hose. A second pvc valve on pump discharge could also help. Add a pvc tee with a screw plug on the pump discharge to simplify priming. Another good suggestion I saw was to bore hole at the bottom of the can, install a pvc hose adapter on the can and set it up on some saw horses above the level of the pump. The prime is then gravity fed to the pump. Another good suggestion was to install a bleeder at the tire stem adapter for bleeding off the air pressure as the tire fills with liquid. All great ideas. TH-camr "Tony's Tractor Adventures" also has a good video on DIY tire ballast. Thanks for the video.
lot of tire places around me will not even try to fix a tire that is full of beet juice , go to napa and get a 55 gal drum of windsield washer fluid, the beet juice is ransid like dead bodies and the mech will not mess with it
The pump should be on the ground so that it never looses prime.
Harbor freight sells a step on switch that can be used to turn the pump on while your working with your hands.
The jiggler sifan is a good idea. With a anti backflow marble.
Unfortunately even with the air bleed valve open the air pressure would have cleared the line even with the pump on the ground. A valve was needed but I didn't figure that out until almost finished.
I bought windshield washer antifreeze in a 55 gallon drum, price a few years back was $95. It worked as good as anything else out there.
TH-camr DaveKnowsHow has a good video on how to make a "manifold" for pumping the liquid into the tires.
I looked couldn't find it for a price better than this.
All the drill pumps I have ever used were Self Priming.
Drop the hose in a crank up the drill 👍
Informative video. There are many videos out there on TH-cam if one wants to compare methods.
A clear hose would have been nice so you could see the liquid in the line and known when it had lost it's prime.
Totally. I'll make sure to have that laying around next time.
1 simple ball valve or a one way valve even on the outflow side of your pump woulda saved alot of time and work.
agreed! Now we know.
Through the years from the end of the 1940's, we have tried calcium cloride in the rear tires but it is so corrosive; you get leaks through time, and your rims rotting out. The only way to go up here in Canada is those outrageously expensive bolt-on wheel weights.
Thread a foot valve onto the end of the hose for a check valve.
Well,,,,, I did find this video informative, I didn't know those pumps had to be primed over and over, so if I ever do this I'll get a check valve, and if that dont work I'd try setting barrel up on a stand, put a hole at bottom of barrel for a garden hose valve, then the drill would be at bottom of liquid.......
One thing I would be interested in adding to that liquid ballast is some sort of anti flat solution, I seen [Good Works Tractors] advertise some stuff that is added to tires. I thinking of doing that to my tractor this coming summer, if I get a flat tire on 11.2-24 ag, it's about $300.00 to fix and refill.......
I have two tractors, [07] L3400 and [21] CK3510
Thanks for watching and the great comment.
I think grape juice might due well. It will ferment and you can drink it when shft!
Nope you don't want fermentation or any other biological processes going on in your tires.
Keep fluid level below axle level to retain stability.
I filled my tires with the auto store brand and they sold it at 50% since i needed 90 gallons or so. I bought an electric pump from Harbor Freight and had no issues. I also bought clear hose so I knew what was happening. Now my next dilemma is my 30 hour service is due and I have to remove the rear tire to get the the Hydraulic screen, at leas it will be way easier that way. My problem is that I am a paraplegic and use a wheelchair. I can't pick up a 3 or 400 lb tire. My plan is to put it on a furniture dolly and with the entire tractor off the ground I should be able to jack it to the exact height and then spin the axle to line up the holes and push! lol I know they make tire dollies that the tire will spin the tire, but I think my idea will work and the new screen will out last me! 😁 Hopefully! Is that Micarta on your bench top. That is some rugged rugged stuff!
Make a video of that! I'll watch. That "bench" is actually a scaffold on wheels.
Get somebody to help handle those tires, they are very heavy and unwieldy.
Wow that is very expensive for rimguard installed!
calcium is pumped into tractor tire for weight also the calcium will not freeze in cold weather.upstate ny farms use it in there tires
True but it is a calcium salt that eats the steel in your rims. It's literally why rimguard calls its product rimguard to be a contrast.
2 or 3 gallon of green antifreeze and water
Then if I get a flat I would have 55 gallons of toxic liquid spilling all over that kills my dogs. Pass. With this I have ethanol which evaporates.
You said there is a chart for how much it takes to fill a tire where did you find that chart thank you
Just google Messicks tire fill chart.
@@hardwaylearnt thanks
solve your prime problem by drilling a hole in thee side of your trash can and installing a pvc hose adapter
near the bottom so it's pulling the solution below the liquid line at all times.
Totally if this was a regular occurrence but I didn't want to ruin the can for a one time job.
Why would you not put in calcium chloride? You buy it by the bag and mix it with water. I've put gallons of water/CC mix in lots of tires. Water is 10 pounds per gallon and with CC in it will weigh about 13 pounds, won't freeze solid at 40 below and 45 gallons gives about 585 pounds instead of 450. I've got one tractor with 800 lb weights plus 90 gallons of chloride mix per side, lots of traction.
It's a calcium salt. Salts are corrosive to the steel in your rims.
@@hardwaylearnt you're right, I am using tubes.
Can you get a check valve on output hose? What about feeding form bottem of tank
Feeding from the bottom makes no difference. Once the hose was weighted it was feeding from the bottom. The issue was the bleed valve could not bleed the air fast enough and the pressure pushed gallons of air all the way back to the tank. A check valve would have solved it.
Just get an rv 12 volt pump and away you go self priming
Great idea. How much does one cost? The Harbor Freight drill pump was $17.
whats the effect of that antifreeze in contact with the tyre rubber long term, will it dissolve the tyre????
I bought a van that had a engine oil leak that dribbled down the shaft and got thrown off against the inner tyre wall other guy must have been just topping it up for years but the tyre was developing some real nasty splits i guess from the oil reacting with it
This is supposed to not eat tires or rims.
Most likely to flip over easily going up a hill now , be careful people,
That's why you back up steep hills. Also heavy front loaders balance now where the loader flipped it before.
check valves on BOTH sides.