I tested 7 Wago Knock-Offs Wire Connectors so you don't have to! (Surprising Results)

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    In this video we will be having a closer look at Wago Knock-Offs. That means I will be testing 7 different kinds of them in order to find out if one of them can be a Wago replacement. Tests include a resistance test, pull test, size comparison, price comparison and much more. Let's get started!
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    0:00 I was weak and bought Wago Knock-Offs!
    1:08 Intro
    1:49 Wago Knock-Off comparison list
    3:54 Ease of use
    5:04 Extra features
    6:11 Size
    6:36 Prize
    7:26 Pull Test
    8:08 Resistance Test
    9:35 Certificates
    10:19 Verdict
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  • @benbaselet2026
    @benbaselet2026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    The resistance test is also pretty important for short circuit currents. If you have a whole bunch of connections all over you want your short circuit fault currents to stay high so that fuses blow immediately instead of cooking and heating up places for a longer time.

    • @ChristophPech
      @ChristophPech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      A B16 Leitungsschutzschalter on 230V will trip instantly at 80A, which is 18kW and not exceed 2.8 Ohm.
      I once misconnected a Wago leading to a higher resistance and a nasty surprise.
      Since then I always measure the installation resistance of all mains circuits.

    • @mrdur2101
      @mrdur2101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if you build up your electrical installation smart (only a few or no connetions) u dont care for that little resistens

    • @benbaselet2026
      @benbaselet2026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mrdur2101 Whatever you do you should know what you do.

    • @apigge8723
      @apigge8723 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benbaselet2026 Good answer! Covers most anything!

    • @Tupsuu
      @Tupsuu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChristophPech Here in Finland we use mostly C10 and C16 circuit breakers and they require 125A and 200A of shortcircuitcurrent tested with a Fluke

  • @KillerSpud
    @KillerSpud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    The only other test I'd like to see is running high currents through them to see how much they will take. Other than that I do think this is really good information and I use Wago connectors in my house wiring all the time.

    • @tarakivu8861
      @tarakivu8861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Well, thats determined by the resistance they have which also tells you about power-losses in form of heat.

    • @KillerSpud
      @KillerSpud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@tarakivu8861 not entirely. It does not show how the housing would deal with the heat it looks like none of them would catch fire, but they will melt at some point and that would be very bad.

    • @patnutoris4054
      @patnutoris4054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      All of them work well above what is specified for 2.5mm 2 cables. Check out
      th-cam.com/video/bP0qHyVAymU/w-d-xo.html

    • @JoppedeZeeuw
      @JoppedeZeeuw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He did test the voltage drop at 20A which was negligible. Even with the worst result of 80mV at 20A, that’s still just 1.6W which is less than most dimmer units for house lighting will have to dissipate. None of the numbers are of serious concern even when heat dissipation is difficult.
      Edit: I checked again and actually the worst result was 1.8 mOhm, which equated a heat production of only 0.036 watts. That’s nothing and maintainable 24/7.

    • @Magneticitist
      @Magneticitist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's like knife arguments. What's the best knife? I mean what's it being used for? Residential is fine. Wagos are great. Any kind of levernut really. I use them all the time. As for endurance I've never seen a levernut in an old plant that's been sitting there for 75 years+. I just see old wirenuts. When they are crumbling old wirenuts, most of the time they were just covering a tightly braided splice. If I want a high current splice that will never be removed and needs to last forever and even serve as a weight bearing splice if need be, I'm braiding solid copper then soldering it, and then twisting a wirenut over it if we're talking between wagos or wirenuts. If I'm wiring a light switch at home together or something I'm not really too concerned about what I'm using so long as I'm not trying to do some shit like hot glue wires together like jackass.

  • @maltesartor711
    @maltesartor711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Confirms me in my experience: ViD Products are absolutely fine to use. German department store OBI sells the non-levered as their house brand, which should mean their certificates are most definetely not faked. And I had no issues when using those and the levered ones so far.

    • @kitecattestecke2303
      @kitecattestecke2303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Still no experience in the long run for just 6 cents cheaper per connection thats test would be mental to do on your own houses :-/

    • @arthurmoore9488
      @arthurmoore9488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@kitecattestecke2303 If the certs are genuine and they really are such a common brand, then I see no problem. Wago is the gold standard, but as others have mentioned the largest issue with knockoffs is quality control. That's not an issue from a company with a reputation to uphold.
      Also, Wago makes those extra hold down products, including DIN rail mounts that you can fit their connectors into. That's another reason they can charge a bit more.

    • @maltesartor711
      @maltesartor711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@kitecattestecke2303 The push-ins I bought as I ran out of Wagos for a job at my house. Certainly a lot better than the Luster terminals I replaced with them. The only real difference I noticed is, they are a bit harder to push in than the Wagos. The lever mechanism actually feels a bit nicer than wagos, though they are one for one a bit thicker. And I think they would have caused a bunch of housefires already in Germany if they are prone to it - craftsmen shop in department stores in a pinch as well...

    • @jimmyb1451
      @jimmyb1451 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kitecattestecke2303 I bet you're vaccinated though.
      You don't need "long run" evidence.
      If we all waited around for "long run experience" before adopting a new product, we'd have nothing.

    • @Tobi_DarkKnight
      @Tobi_DarkKnight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wie wo was weiß Obi.

  • @OleJanssen
    @OleJanssen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    I still can't wrap my head around why people hate Wagos that much.
    Yes, they're slightly more expensive compared to some other connection types and yes, if used properly, other stuff like wire nuts can be just as safe.
    But those are not foolproof and if used improperly, they might cause serious issues.
    That being said, Wagos are simply foolproof and much more convenient.
    Nice video, though.

    • @johnalexander2349
      @johnalexander2349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Other than paid shills, I can't see why anyone would claim that wire nuts are better.
      But as for "foolproof"... sadly, no. Once had a tenant that rewired a florescent fitting for a LED retrofit tube using Wago 222 blocks... shoved the wires in without lifting the lever. There's always a better fool.

    • @aimbuster1
      @aimbuster1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i buy only wago.
      thats the way ( i dont not care about some cents ).

    • @ezurth
      @ezurth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      NEVER underestimate a persons ability to be a dumbass

    • @squee222
      @squee222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      wire nuts if used properly provide a higher quality electrical splice. It's really that simple.
      Wago: DIY idiot proof. Don't need to know much.
      Wire nut: Good quality permanent splice not dependent on manufacturer to ensure continuity and ampacity but dependent on your ability t make a solid pigtail splice.
      Do you trust your skill more than a manufacturer? Than use a Wire Nut... if you trust manufacturers of connectors more than your skill, use a Wago.

    • @Kalvinjj
      @Kalvinjj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      It's quite impressive how absolutely every field has mad raging fanboys and haters. I get it preferring one over the other, that's natural as everyone has different priorities on their selections, specially since both have their upper hand on some aspect than others. But to be hating like idiots and claiming bias and paid review if your precious loses? Damn...

  • @dwaynezilla
    @dwaynezilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Your style of video making is distinct, clean, and aesthetically pleasing. Writing things out is a great way to fill video space between key points, and it looks really good. Plus it's always relevant because the values/words are related to what you're talking about. And the nice penmanship on the clean white paper is very satisfying, haha. Putting the knockoff connectors on a paper and writing their points is a nice touch!

    • @gn6034
      @gn6034 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah shame he makes the 1's look like 7's though

    • @AndyGneiss
      @AndyGneiss ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gn6034 That's just the typical handwritten German numbers, and German sevens also typically have a horizontal dash through them (which can help tell them apart). I found it weird when I first witnessed it in school with a teacher from Germany.

    • @tildey6661
      @tildey6661 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AndyGneiss everyone should be using a crossbar on their 7s

    • @OgbondSandvol
      @OgbondSandvol ปีที่แล้ว

      As it was said for someone else here, in other video's comments: I bought a bunch of Stabilo pens hoping that I could get so smart as Scott, but it didn't work.
      And being left-handed also helps to make the handwrinting more appealing.

  • @bluescream7463
    @bluescream7463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the comparison; I was especially interested in the effective amperage through the connection (short time and long time) compared with what's indicated. Great video!

  • @callux93
    @callux93 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very accurate testing and rating system. I wish all the brands were available in my area. The point about Wago themselves not being that much more per piece was an excellent conclusion. Absolutely great video!

  • @dans-designs
    @dans-designs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for taking the time to research this! I thought your last video was very concise and i had never heard of wago connectors before then so thanks again for that!

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And i always thought wire nuts are - nuts. 👍😁

    • @dans-designs
      @dans-designs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wolfgangpreier9160 dude since your comment, there has been 5 Fake accounts posting to various Adult websites! May need to check your Gmail settings and connected accounts bud!

    • @wolfgangpreier9160
      @wolfgangpreier9160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dans-designs I am sooo lucky i don‘t use gmail! 😂🤣

    • @dans-designs
      @dans-designs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wolfgangpreier9160 hahah fair enough

  • @nigelross7896
    @nigelross7896 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video and thanks for your research and unbiased commentary - it is appreciated

  • @lazy_termite
    @lazy_termite ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It's rather odd to trust the certificate markings on knock off products, unless there's an online certificate available, which can be fabricated too, but that at least will be something...

  • @daviddavidson2357
    @daviddavidson2357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    The certificates part made me laugh.
    It's much easier to have CE molded onto knockoffs than it is to get the certification.

    • @theaifam5
      @theaifam5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Try to compare with “China Export” symbol 😂

    • @tyrgoossens
      @tyrgoossens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theaifam5 AKA the "Chinese Excrement" symbol.

    • @ulwur
      @ulwur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      CE is not a certification, but a self assessment by the manufacturer that the product complies with the standard, but no third party tests are required.
      So CE is only as good as the manufacturers conciense.

    • @MrARBlack
      @MrARBlack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ulwur finally someone Who knows, thanks

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ulwur Ce kinda sums up everything wrong with the EU

  • @baalzevuv4509
    @baalzevuv4509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Some time ago I watched video where Wago connectors were being tested for extremely high amperage and as far as I remember 2,5 mm wire started to loose it's isolation due to heat and started to glow red before even anything happened to Wago connector...

    • @paulstaf
      @paulstaf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      John Ward "Wago 222 Connectors vs Others, Testing Current Overload and Flammability" youtube video

    • @cdscissor
      @cdscissor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Link for those who like convenience:
      th-cam.com/video/bP0qHyVAymU/w-d-xo.html

  • @Karreth
    @Karreth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Cool. I'll just stick to using genuine Wagos though. They're the industry standard, and no one would ever question your use of them.

    • @adamw.8579
      @adamw.8579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. Really industrial standard.

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I only ever use this type of connector for low voltage situations. Nice socks. great video 2x👍

  • @Speeder84XL
    @Speeder84XL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Nice!
    It's always interesting to know how "no brand" products perform as well (since it's so hard to know beforehand). They are often good, but if you are unlucky you may get some crap. In this case, you also don't want to discover that you got a crap product by it starting a fire, haha.

  • @goldenfox334
    @goldenfox334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im from the us and have never seen these connectors until one of your previous videos. these look like a amazing idea compared to wire nuts as far as safety and ease of use. what ive always done with wirenuts though is made sure they actually threaded onto the wire first then wrapped the wire in electrical tape or put heat shrink tubing around it to prevent the fire from backing out of the wirenut

  • @edwardvanhazendonk
    @edwardvanhazendonk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the heavy lifting in testing this all, nice result!

  • @tristankordek
    @tristankordek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    7:35 The sudden appearance of the foot made me laugh, you are brilliant, I haven't laughed so much for a while THX :D
    P.S. Don't worry about comments from people who whine, these tests are needed to let folks know what to use.

  • @HassanSalehabadi
    @HassanSalehabadi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    your videos are so valuable thank you.

  • @marekaksmu
    @marekaksmu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome content. I love this type od videos 👍 thank you for your channel

  • @balesjo
    @balesjo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Working with computer systems for years, I definitely see the benefit of WAGO and the better knockoffs over wire nuts for use in many parts of the system when dealing with bare wire connections.

  • @squee222
    @squee222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    big issue with knockoffs is quality control/assurance. They skimp in that area so although they might pass your testing a significant percentage of them (maybe one in a thousand or ten thousand) might be dangerous - which is an unacceptable failure rate for something meant to stop your house from burning down.

    • @GLITCH_-.-
      @GLITCH_-.- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hm, fair point.
      But the connecters aren't fire extinguishers or sprinklers. :P

    • @Fifury161
      @Fifury161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@GLITCH_-.- I think you miss the point - flawed analogy, fire extinguishers or sprinklers don't have the ability to start or perpetuate a fire. Insurance has a way of pointing blame at something that isn't certified or up to spec.

    • @m80116
      @m80116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In old homes is not uncommon that wire caps become oxidized, spark and fail charred. I still deem very unlikely that a hole in the wall start a house fire. It's all mythology pumped by distributors and electricians to better promote their job.
      Anyway... 1 to 2 way 3-color coded WAGO copycats it wasn't my choice: they don't exist per WAGO catalogue and they're incredibly convenient while cabling house 3 core wires.

    • @aaronporter2180
      @aaronporter2180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scrolled down to make this exact comment

    • @LC-hd5dc
      @LC-hd5dc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the other thing is since the knockoffs aren't really cheaper, why buy them?

  • @my3dprintedlife
    @my3dprintedlife 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought some WAGO connectors based on your recommendation. Love these videos!

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent tests and comparison, dude! Thanks a bunch! 😃
    Here in Brazil I never saw those connectors... But online there are some sources... Maybe I try them soon. 😊
    Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @MrKahvi
    @MrKahvi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A good testament to the VID connectors is that my school uses them. And if I remember correctly they were sold under the Wurth brand.

  • @Dansk55
    @Dansk55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These Wagos are EXCELLENT when wiring stranded LED lights/fixtures to solid gauge wire that's wired around the house. They also work very well with applications around the car and motorcycle which I have at least a decade of very good experience using. The only reason I still use wire nuts is cause I purchased a whole bunch at a discount years ago.

  • @clintonbeckway4171
    @clintonbeckway4171 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you I learnt a lot from your videos, great information.

  • @kmemz
    @kmemz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I'll definitely be looking at the ViD connectors if I want to shave some price, and some of those slide connectors if I want to get a few bonus points for safety, thanks for the video!

    • @stehlajz
      @stehlajz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The ViD seems like a reasonable alternative. The brand ViolaDirekt is German (same as Wago) and the certifications seems legit and can be downloaded from their website. The others are all probably some chinese no-name, the sliding looks also decent but without any paperwork to prove some quality control it can be little bit sketchy.

  • @vahakngehlhaarmatossian2673
    @vahakngehlhaarmatossian2673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice one! ive been using multiple knockoffs for a while. never found any with a similar price to wago

  • @Lena-qg8bd
    @Lena-qg8bd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    i really didn't expect the slide connectors to perform that well

    • @UliTechMobile
      @UliTechMobile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

    • @UliTechMobile
      @UliTechMobile 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/LnEE5we4CJU/w-d-xo.html

    • @Schatzjaeger2
      @Schatzjaeger2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And I would also not give it 3 points for ease of use. If it is already installed and you don't have the "tool" with you, it is not easy to use.

    • @Lena-qg8bd
      @Lena-qg8bd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Schatzjaeger2 i mean nails work just fine

    • @ConorNoakes
      @ConorNoakes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Schatzjaeger2 if you’re working on electrics and you don’t have the basic tools such as a small flat-blade screw driver then you should probably not start the work and get a professional instead 😂

  • @sciencebug314
    @sciencebug314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i repeated the resistance test of a wago 221 with AWG 16 fine stranded wire and got 1.1mR as a result.
    my wago knock-off look-alikes came out even better with just under 1mR (voltage drop measured with a UT181A).
    i removed more insulation so i could measure directly at the connector's entrance, while running 18A through it.

  • @brucewilson3170
    @brucewilson3170 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vielen Dank. As a scientist, I really appreciate your methodology and rigor. I think you tested the right things and provided the important data.

  • @g.g.2211
    @g.g.2211 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe I've already written this in the past, but
    I really like your hand written texts and schemes!

  • @ferdi93ferdi
    @ferdi93ferdi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    9:50 the most important thing is: .. the CE - certificate can be given by the company itself, "yup our product is europe compliant" - otherwise they cant be imported or even sold in europe.

    • @larkhill2119
      @larkhill2119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Legally imported or even sold. Third party certification is required outside EU.

    • @dutchducks5451
      @dutchducks5451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't make the mistake that you have the CE and the C E .. that's a big difference...

  • @avejst
    @avejst 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review/computation
    Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of us :-)

  • @AntKardano
    @AntKardano 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for doing this, this is great!

  • @greggv8
    @greggv8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've come across loose wire nuts several times. Some that I put on, some that I assume an electrician put on due to various aspects of the application like how old it is and knowing that nobody had touched it in years. Seeing some tests of 20 amp rated Wago 221 connectors shrugging off 60 amps while barely warming up is impressive. They're soooooo much easier than wire nuts, especially when connecting 3 or more wires and doubly so when connecting stranded to solid, as is typical with light fixtures.
    The lever nuts just aren't going to self-loosen, not from any kind of repeated heating and cooling from environment or electric resistance. They also work the first time, no repeated attempts required trying to get stranded and solid or three or four solid wired held just the right way that a wire nut will evenly grab and hold them all.
    The only 'strike' against the Wago 221 I have is they don't make a 4 hole version! It's like the Holy Hand Grenade scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, slightly modified. Two! Three! Five!
    When you just need to connect 4 wires but have to try cramming the bulkier 5 hole Wago into the box...

  • @ErvahNoir
    @ErvahNoir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sure they're all somewhat similar in thia but I'm curious how water resistant they are now. I have a few projects that require rewiring but a lot of them may deal with at least condensation. Great video as always!

  • @GLITCH_-.-
    @GLITCH_-.- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would've liked to see an endurance test, where you see if and by how much holding-strength and Ohm change after ten, twenty and maybe fifty uses.

    • @mcac-youtube
      @mcac-youtube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      An accelerated oxidation test would be great.

  • @loungelizard836
    @loungelizard836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! Came just in time, I was looking at the Wago clones just today!

  • @WoLpH
    @WoLpH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a whole bunch of these types of connectors from aliexpress a few years ago and they were much cheaper (about 1/4) when compared to wago connectors. I have a hole set of wago for mains wiring and such, but for other stuff I often use these convenient alternatives with the nice screw-holes as well.

  • @adamw.8579
    @adamw.8579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made industrial machine wiring using original WAGO 221 - mixed cable types from 0,8mm2 to 4mm2. Zero problems, excellent reusability (for correction work). Expensive but worth any spent coin.

  • @stevetobias4890
    @stevetobias4890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video Scott

  • @JockeSelin
    @JockeSelin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much!
    As you are displaying oscilloscopes quite a lot, I was reminded that there seems to be very few tutorials on how to use an oscilloscope on TH-cam. (Maybe I just haven’t found them?) Perhaps an idea for a video series?
    Thanks again!

  • @IanGrams
    @IanGrams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I always chuckle when people throw around "you're biased" as if that somehow discredits what you had to say. Literally everyone is biased. If someone claims they are unbiased then that just tells me they lack the self awareness of it.
    I watch this channel because I want to hear your opinion on things. If I wanted an unbiased comparison I'd read the spec sheets side by side.

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's an internet joke; "Your nitpicking and biased; I win, bye-bye."
      Use it whenever you require intellectual superiority. It's like using Caps Lock but with arguments.

  • @user-cd7jx2td8n
    @user-cd7jx2td8n 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Right away, I'd like to say that you have some nice looking PME on your test bench! We also have one other thing in common - great handwriting! Anyway, I commend you on creating such a useful video. The test criteria you employed is very thorough, but the Resistance Test is definitely the most critical test in your list. Way back in engineering school, I was taught that Power is simply a form of Heat and, as you correctly pointed out, Power (P) is a product of both Current (I) and Resistance (R). Put a much simpler way, Heat increases when electrical conductors (wires) have poor contact with one another. Personally, I've never heard of a house fire that started at a simple connection point, but it IS possible. It is far more likely that a wire may come loose and short to ground - which obviously causes a lot of heat - but that's where your Pull Test comes in, which I see as the second most important test in your list. Regardless, thank you for performing this comprehensive product test and, please, keep up the great work!

  • @tzant
    @tzant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect work is done. Here's like! Thanks!

  • @CsabaKabai
    @CsabaKabai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for the great video as always! May I ask the wire tool you used? Looks as one from knipex.

  • @boxman139
    @boxman139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The previous video was not bad at all. I think it was loud minority of people with very strong opinions who thought that their opinions were fact. Wire nuts, if used correctly, can get the job done safely, but so can Wagos.
    Also, some other commenters pointed out that on places like Amazon counterfeit Wagos are sold as real, and it is possible that any negative opinions about build quality might've stemmed from them buying counterfeits instead of real Wagos. This is really the fault of the website they are hosted on (especially Amazon), as it is very hard to tell these days if a product is real or not, especially considering that many reviews are paid and thus not genuine, inflating the overall rating.
    Hopefully those people learn to have a more open mind in the future.

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If the last 6 years have taught me anything, its that, when people are loud and obnoxious about their opinion, I ignore it almost unilaterally.

    • @someguy4915
      @someguy4915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@baronvonbeandip Usually the ones that scream the loudest/rudest that they know best are the ones that have no clue what they are talking about. Also, people who care that much about whether someone uses a wire-nut instead of a Wago or vice-versa that they go around spamming comments on TH-cam videos should typically not be consulted for proper advice anyway, looking at the comment section here, some people really do stay up 24 hours a day spamming their opinion on TH-cam xD

    • @gn6034
      @gn6034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wirenuts damage the copper to make a connection so most countries with proper wiring regulations don't allow them. As we have to test the installation and fill out a legally binding document that is our only defense in court if there problems down the line, we don't fuck about with gimmicks like wirenuts we make sure our connection are robust.

  • @damustermann
    @damustermann 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ViD are pretty good, they were pretty good priced, so I tried them, and I'm very happy with them.

  • @krekre001
    @krekre001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great job. i would have given 4 points in the resistance test because it is so important.

  • @theodorgiosan2570
    @theodorgiosan2570 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've used many kinds of connectors. The Chinese ones, real Wagos, the Ideal lever connectors, traditional white terminal strips, set screw wire nuts, Polaris taps, split bolt, etc. If I am trying to make a really good connection, I will go for a terminal strip or a small Polaris tap. If I am just trying to connect things together, I usually go for the Chinese 3 input, 3 outputs per input connector. Have one running at 25 amps that has been there for years, recently took apart that box and it's perfectly fine.

  • @basvandersluis5662
    @basvandersluis5662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for testing this. It is good to know, but I will still be only using Wago's in my home. It is just an emotional thing. :)

  • @ftboomer1
    @ftboomer1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and comparison. OT: I envy your penmanship.

  • @LoftechUK
    @LoftechUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great coverage.

  • @Magneticitist
    @Magneticitist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use the lever kind all the time but I can say that there is not some "best" option between them for all purposes. It depends. I've seen lever nut splices where they magically somehow wiggle and pop off, lending to the idea that their use in general could become a little "too easy" for people over time. If I forcefully tried to remove a wire from the nut without opening the lever, I can do it with some twisting and turning. It's just not magically as solid as taking something like 12 or 14 and literally braiding it together. Wagos could probably stand the test of time but AFAIK empirically they cannot compare to wirenuts which have the actual evidence of doing so in many situations.
    People who are doing basic residential or light commercial wiring don't need to be too concerned about it.. they just need to make sure their joints are good with whatever product they use. Some facilities have local code which requires them to braid and solder permanent terminations in the boxes, something which the thought behind is not possible to do with a lever nut. Some of the thought behind that could be something like hospitals where engineers have kept it in mind that they want feeds to stay together temporarily maybe even in some drastic situation where an earthquake or other climate disaster has damaged some of the infrastructure. Having said that has anyone ever used wagos in a hospital for anything other than small fixture wiring? Would they let you make all the jbox terminations with them?
    This is just a random and joking example but I bet someone who is in an extremely unlucky situation where they need to hold onto some long ground wire to keep from falling is going to prefer it was fastened at the other end with a braided wirenut as opposed to a wago. I understand a wago may be tested and rated with all the acclaim but again, it's not hard to go see wirenuts older than you in old plants which are still fine. You can't do that yet with a wago unless you're pretty young. Of all the back and forth about wirenut vs wago I just don't get it when it comes to simply and basic wiring. Who cares. Just don't use scotch tape. People are talking about their preferred product for their electronic light switches lol.

  • @aviationist
    @aviationist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Das ist super! Danke!

  • @Divine_Evil
    @Divine_Evil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:41, the 2 grooves on the left connector are the mark showing how much insulation to remove...

  • @FlosHandy
    @FlosHandy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be interesting to see the resistance test in comparison to wago and I don't know if I missed it, how would the clamps perform with fine wires not only solid. Thanks for the Video.

  • @geezzzwdf
    @geezzzwdf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you feel about shrink wrap ?
    (Heat treated wire wrap) ?

  • @IH8stpdppl
    @IH8stpdppl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At the end of the day name brand wagos aren’t as bad as some people make them out to be (the lever lock that is, the stab in of any brand is garbage). But with properly twisted wires a wire nut is just a better, lower resistance connection than that little bus bar in the wago. I personally only use them for LED lighting fixtures and control wires but that’s just personal preference. Great video bro

  • @ChristieNel
    @ChristieNel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very handy review, thanks.

  • @flashmedia8953
    @flashmedia8953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work scotty

  • @danharold3087
    @danharold3087 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with Killer Spud below. Would like to see some high and over current tests.
    Given the choice I will use a wire nut. But there are enough times that I have run into places where limited space or unhandy locations makes wago's a easier and safer choice because poorly installed wire nuts are a bad deal. So maybe for the inexperienced people they are a better choice. Still maintain a properly installed wire nut to be a better connection.

  • @black.phoenix.
    @black.phoenix. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Scott there's one thing you are missing in the Certificates.
    For something to be VDE or UL Listed as the name implied there is a number who certifies such listing that you can consult.
    Having the logo doesn't mean it's not simply a silkscreen applied without any document that certifies such thing (very common with China manufacturers).
    Other thing is the similarities between the CE logo and the CE (China Export) logo.
    So just having CE doesn't mean that it's the CE logo we know for products authorised to be sold in the EU but a China Export logo. Just a search online can show you what I'm saying, TH-cam doesn't allow links now...
    I'm a European EE currently living in Shenzhen/Hong Kong so I've come around this kind of stuff all days.
    That and counterfeits from brands as Knipex, Wiha, Wera and Wago for example.

  • @mikehardy7060
    @mikehardy7060 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent, many thanks

  • @practicalmedicine4359
    @practicalmedicine4359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if you would consider doing an additional evaluation on the "push in" wire connectors, represented in the USA largely by Ideal connectors. I actually picked up a pack thinking they were Wago knockoffs, as they look very similar from the outside. Thanks!

  • @martinlabuda117
    @martinlabuda117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great tests, original wago connectors are quite expensive :D

  • @hmdwn
    @hmdwn ปีที่แล้ว

    So, these are ok (code approved) to use in USA vs the standard wirenuts?
    I have some 50 standard 120v 15a receptacles to replace in my fathers house (built 1973) and 'many' have wire nuts in the old metal box to extend the existing wires.
    Or, should I just leave well enough alone and wire-in replacement receptacles? (ain't broke don't fix-it kinda deal)

  • @run-dd
    @run-dd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The CE "certificate" is merely a self-declaration by the manufacturer of conformity with European regulations, which is mandatory for sales to european customers. It is therefore in no way an expression of quality or the like.

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They need to make sure that certificate is certified before it certifies a product.

    • @apigge8723
      @apigge8723 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Reimar: Thank you!

  • @picobyte
    @picobyte ปีที่แล้ว

    I've used wago for my PV system 6mm² ~43A per phase.
    Holding up just fine.
    My cable losses at ~60m of 6mm² cable are worse 😇 at the full 25kVA we loose about one kiloWatt between converter and grid meter. 👍

  • @DickieBird888
    @DickieBird888 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting video thanks.. What wire stripping tool are you using please?

  • @ImSweetKiss
    @ImSweetKiss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the problem might be with North America, since they use half the voltage, they have double the amps.

  • @r6u356une56ney
    @r6u356une56ney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would have been nice if you labeled the amazon links as to which brand each one was. Also, it sucks that the VID ones don't seem to be available on US Amazon.

    • @nidusa1
      @nidusa1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can not find this ViD brand on internet search. are they sold as a different brand name also?

  • @carstenk2552
    @carstenk2552 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the Video. I guess I would have needed it six weeks ago, maybe I wouldn't have bought the big ones I did, which do not fit the housing

  • @JUANKERR2000
    @JUANKERR2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    If preferring a superior product over an inferior one is being biassed then I freely admit my guilt.

  • @kurtlindner
    @kurtlindner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison!

  • @taith2
    @taith2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I wonder/fear is what connectors are made out of
    Wanting to use in line connectors, but these are aluminum wires, not sure if conductor used in these connectors result in galvanic corrosion

  • @BL-yj2wp
    @BL-yj2wp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The issue with cheap spring terminal clamps is long term reliability. When there is an intermittent fault in an old installation (here in Germany where Wagos and Fakeos have been around for a long time) it's a good bet someone used those hardware store clamps in a junction box. Even the cheapest screw terminals are more reliable. Never had a genuine Wago fail though, and they have been used here since 1974.

  • @ChadAF_YT
    @ChadAF_YT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bring an American, I am used to using wire caps. I bought some of those connectors and online, (wago knock-offs) and thought they all sucked. I may have to get brand name wago’s to give them a try. Wire caps work very well, but the ability to switch out wires without re-stripping in very select situations would be very nice

  • @Badg0r
    @Badg0r ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the name and brand of that crimping tool. I currently use an automatic one from Stanley but I'm curious about the one you use for testing purposes.

  • @warmarin
    @warmarin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what would you recommend for a wireless relay/ switch combo? DIY or buy

  • @SmartLifeEnthusiast
    @SmartLifeEnthusiast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:43 fairly certain that the indentation at the bottom of the 1-to-1 is the indicator for the wire stripping length?

  • @gligoran
    @gligoran 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that at 4:43 the connector on the left (smaller one) has the insulation information provided by that little indentation on the bottom.

  • @smahax
    @smahax 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your previous and this video was great

  • @MMuraseofSandvich
    @MMuraseofSandvich 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was just working on a project that had a heat issue in the wiring and connectors (higher than expected current), and Wago nuts saved my bacon. They sell them by the box on Digi-key, and next time I'm using these for power distribution. Just need some 3D-printed mounts.
    I do have a small kit box of "made in Germany, packaged in the USA" Wago 221 nuts, but since Amazon knockoffs are a minefield and since I can now buy them easily on reputable distributors, I don't buy them on Amazon anymore.

    • @larkhill2119
      @larkhill2119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buy some fuse's as well.

  • @EsotericArctos
    @EsotericArctos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a question on the CE marking. Was it a genuine CE marking?
    I have found CE, even the genuine mark, sometimes is misused by some companies, especially those that are more interested in product dumping than genuine pride in their work.
    I agree, UL and ENEC are ones to look for

    • @larkhill2119
      @larkhill2119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      UL mark is only checked in the USA. A European import could be just as fake.

  • @KJBtheMosFett
    @KJBtheMosFett 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Started watching your channel to learn when I Was in engineering school. Now I work in R&D... and I we use the sssshhhiiiittttt out of these connectors. Seriously, this was a really good idea for a video

  • @arjanvanraaij8440
    @arjanvanraaij8440 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wirenuts were widely used in the Netherlands, until wago made decent push in wire connectors. But the Dutch wirenuts made by Conex are diffrent. They have decend instruction load and certification (kema dutch version of vde)and there own tools to install them.

  • @hobbesip1
    @hobbesip1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When it came to the UL listing, did you actually look up the number and verify it applies to electrical safety for this specific product's use case?
    Case and point: most surge protectors you might find today with a MOV and multiple outlets will have a UL listing, but the number only applies to "relocatable taps", not actual "surge suppression", meaning only the outlets expansion, not the MOV, is certified. This means the MOV could be below below UL certification and possibly fail tests where the MOV can catch fire under a large surge, but the outlets themselves pass. It's a real problem.

  • @AgentPothead
    @AgentPothead ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great video. The only bit I would slightly disagree with is the markings part. The only thing they guarantee is that the factory stamped the logo on the product. That's it.

  • @justinklrjms
    @justinklrjms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only use the knockoffs on my Low Voltage heating zone wiring connections

  • @tricky98
    @tricky98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video - thanks.
    Just had a look at Amazon in the UK - and the winner has already sold out 🤔

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What a shame😅 But now you know what to look out for👍

  • @ElSmiley1000
    @ElSmiley1000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the fire you should run them at their rated voltage and ampacity to see if they’re correct as well as comparing them to the wagos

  • @diyfrombelarus
    @diyfrombelarus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very interesting, thanks

  • @Emphasis213
    @Emphasis213 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wire nuts are significantly better if you use it correctly.
    The reason being is that it creates more contact area with the wires by wrapping around each other.
    On top of that, the wire nut has a inner metal sleeve that creates an additional conductive surface.
    The twisting of the wire also creates a superior mechanical connection.
    A recent Test was also conducted where the wago was actually hotter with current flowing through it compared to a wire nut.

  • @thomaspase9536
    @thomaspase9536 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Würth also provides a labeled version of the ViD Connectors, which I am testing now for some month.

  • @rassel2000
    @rassel2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The VID connectors are the same ones Würth sells in their stores :)

  • @hightttech
    @hightttech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well Done 👍

  • @fester.
    @fester. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great vid,i bought the wago copies off amazon and 90% fell to bits,even out of the box when i lifted the handle it fell off,just buy wago original, you get what you pay for