Actually, most of the similarities between Paladins and Overwatch are due to the fact that both are based on a 2010 game called Global Agenda, and it is unlikely that they could have been inspired by each other because the first betas of both games came out with barely a month apart, not to mention that there is a confusion with the paladins announcement date because the game changed its name many times before its release
see this is what a lot of people say but it completely discounts the way Paladins changed overnight. It was much more of a moba, the primary reason they have mounts in the game, that had multiple points you had to take before it became a payload map
@@Pajron21Yes, and a lot of people just either miss that or go ahead and just say "PaLadiNs ClooNe OverwAtch" Since Global Agenda died, Hi rez just gave those abilities a new coat of paint, and also, a lot abilities if not champions seem similar, but function or just are completely different.
@@camerongrondzki2716 yeah that was then, this is now. and is it really so bad to take notes? overwatch character designs are incredibly simple when it comes to their kits, blizzard doesn't get to own "dwarf who makes a turret" or "man with revolver". and almost all of that stuff has been reworked to be completely different anyway
Yeah I noticed that, the hardest part was remembering to buy stuff whenever you get a chance. It’s also nice that the upgrades are the same for everyone.
@@shankodawgy Ya, it took me a while too, just buy whatever you think is good then as you learn game mechanics you figure it out, or you can watch someone liek AndrewChicken to learn
@@shankodawgy In item store from a moba like lol There are 100 items and they do a lot of thing and have a lot of text. In Paladins items are 16 and they do just one thing.
@@shankodawgy it's just a matter of practice, right now I instinctively press i after I die. Hell, when I watch TH-cam I press i after the youtuber dies lol
And everyone ignores that overwatch also ripped some things from paladins. Skye, the invisible purple lady with an SMG-type weapon was in paladins before sombra released. Bastion's ult in overwatch was changed to be more like viktor's ult. Hanzo and sha lin are often compared, but overwatch changed hanzo's scatter arrow into a plant stance, which sha lin already had. Wrecking ball is pretty similar to ruckus, in that they both have dual machine guns, are both a small creature piloting a robot who can talk, and both have an ability that adds a lot of shield to their health. Ruckus came first. So it's not really as simple as 'paladins stole from overwatch', but that seems to be what most people think.
I remember arguing back when OW1 was still fresh. I was and still a heavy Paladins advocate because of the store and card system. The newest update feels just like og Paladins.
@@shankodawgy I talked to Kresnik recently who used to cast Paladins Pro League and he is the one who got me back into the game again. Glad to see more and more people are coming to it!
I always wondered how similar ideas always come out at the same time. It happened with multiverse type movies too, they all came at the same time despite them being in development at the same time.
@@shankodawgyna they copied each other . Fernando copied rein makoa prob copied roadhog lex prob copied reaper ,nyx copied ramatra ,for ow sombra copied skye hanzo rework is literally a shalin ripoff except the sonar arrow wrecking ball copied ruckus and ash copied lian. def a lot more but at the start they copied each other a lot.
@@zatchbell366 no, what he was saying is that paladins was in development before overwatch was even thought of, they did copy each other over the years so thats true.
@@zatchbell366 bruh how is lex a copy of reaper, when the way he works is completely different. Lex deals good damage, but he is not someone you expect to melt tanks at super close range like reaper. Lots of those stuff you mentioned "copied" other characters are complete nitpicks that only shows one thing that may be considered similar. Like how the hell in the slightest is lian in any way shape of form similar to ashe again? Yes hitscan that shoots quite fast, but that is about it.
That's not entirely true. In a Reddit post, the former CEO of Hi-Rez Studios admitted that Paladins and Overwatch coincidentally had the same idea at the same time, and that they tried changing the game's mechanics because they didn't want to compete against a giant like Blizzard, until eventually they changed their minds.
i always liked paladins more because the item purchasing system and the talents and custom loadouts, because they add so much variety to it. In Overwatch u have 1 way to play a character, in Paladins u have atleast 3 with the talents, but u can create ur own.
I think it's a much deeper game than OW but got overshadowed because it feels like an indie game against it. OW is/was polished as hell and well thought trow. Paladins had many bugs, identity changes, and a worse balance. Those are things that are too annoying for most players and let them throw the game. But they catch it now slowly but steady. Much less big bugs, a steady identity, and the balance slowly getting better. It's the best time for Paladins. I hope they hold it like this
ngl i prefer paladins over overwatch, but some time ago there just was a bug where enemy couldnt score a point even when they won, so it was just an insta win long match for us
Glad to see more people giving Paladins a fair shake ~ I installed it ages ago on a lark and after finally getting sick of OW2's predatory monetization nonsense, I booted it back up again. I've unlocked all of the heroes with gold earned from casually playing, and I was a mediocre Overwatch player; the level of skill expression that can be felt through getting increasingly better at champions in Paladins feels way, WAY better than Overwatch did - and with the card system it adds another layer of depth to let you really lean into a certain playstyle. They also actually give you stuff for free, wich OW2 doesn't really do anymore. I wanted to try the new heroes but nope, paywalled behind a battlepass =/ what nonsense! If you just play a little you'll be earning enough gold to buy all the champions you want, and they have a free rotation that changes every week so you'll always be able to play some new heroes each week, which feels more than fair.
I agree the monetization is in OW is pretty bad. The new characters do become free to play though after the battle pass season is over! Just need to do some challenges to unlock them.
@@shankodawgy you call it a clone before you even reached level 5 and understood anything about the game You played it so little didn't even know how the item store worked you didn't even play long enough to learn anything besides shoot and press buttons
Overwatch does site one of its inpirations to be Global Agenda and in the case for characters like phara they site Tribes to be the inpiration, which is highly ironic because both of those games are made by the same studio who made Paladins lol. Paladins was made to be a spiritual successor to Gobal Agenda from the same studio who created it. Both Overwatch and Paladins started development at around the same exact time, so Paladins really ended up being done dirty by the "overwatch clone" allegations, very ironic. That being said, when HiRez saw the success of early overwatch they did change their main gamemode to be more similar to it, but let's be honest, capture & push gamemodes weren't invented by OW so Paladins can only be faulted for "copying" as much as OW there.
Paladins was in the making an entire year before Overwatch was thought of. It’s come a long way since the very beginning, I’ve been there since day 1 and could tell you every moment in it’s history of bugs, changes, etc. On that note, if you want to become better at it in at least the basics first things first is learn your talents, loadouts, in game items, how cauterize (anti healing) works, your maps, comeback mechanic, the differences between off tank/point tank, off support/main support, positioning and line/out of line of sight to refresh anti healing for heals. These are only merely the BASICS for this game. Edit: I forgot to mention learning the credit system and how it works for your items and what you should do in your particular class to obtain as much as you can.
Before you can answer that question you need to know Paladins( Global Agenda 2) was in development in 2012 a year before Overwatch/Titan started production. There's no way the game could have been made between may 2015( Overwatch release) and September 2016( full Paladins rel;ease) sure in those months Hi-Rez could have borrowed some things from Overwatch but Overwatch has taken ideas from Paladins also
Paladins is just so much more bright than Overwatch, and from my experience much less competitive, at least in casual matches. No one feels pressured to play a certain role, I've seen teams of all flank, all damages, all supports, and all tanks, both win and lose. That car customization really shows how you play your champion in each specific situation in addition to the talents. I love the game, it's one of the only fps games I actually enjoy, started since alpha and seeing it grow this much has been great.
good to see people giving this game an honest shot, it has a lot of issues mostly around the polish of the game but it definetly has its own charm especially in the replayability department with loadouts and items making two instances of the same champion vastly different
@@shankodawgy hey go ask for that overwatch w pve game they promised at blizzcon 2019 with quest and talent trees and upgradeable stuff go get that first
I admittedly dropped Paladins around 3 years ago due to lack of QoL features and overall polish compared to OW. With the way things are going now though, I can see at least 4 good reasons to pick it up again over OW: *1)* Heroes (AKA champions) must be locked in at the start of the match, preventing a constant counterpicking meta which is prevalent in other hero shooters and tends to drive away players who like to commit to a certain main. To compensate for this, champions are highly customizable through the dozens of passive buff options, including a simple LoL-like list of items, which can be adjusted mid-game to adapt to whatever current disadvantages your team comp may be dealing with. This combined with the whopping 20 additional heroes over OW allows much more variety for players to cultivate their own unique playstyles and team comp specialties. *2)* Around two years ago, Paladins reworked their "cauterize" item, which would give enemies a brief healing debuff when hit, exactly like how the current DPS passive works in OW2. Since this was such a must-pick in the Paladins meta, they instead made it a passive for everyone, allowing more item points to be spent elsewhere. The cauterize meta is probably what inspired the new DPS passive in OW2. *3)* Less than a year ago, Paladins ditched their Switch port. Although this is obviously bad news for Switch-exclusive players, this opened up a lot more possibilities for the devs to add features without the hardware restrictions of the Switch. Perhaps the most notable change is the inclusion of larger maps. *4)* Despite coming out a year before Paladins and having much more development resources, OW has been recently taking notes from Paladins gameplay. Although much of these changes are pretty much already standard in the genre and genres like it, the list of changes include: the new F2P model, 5v5, higher TTK, larger hitboxes, passive regen out of combat, as well as the previously mentioned healing debuff effect. All of this combined with Acti-Blizz's abrupt change in staff and vision, as well as their absurd amount of controversies over the years tends to give players less and less reasons to pick OW over Paladins. Not to imply that you need to exclusively pick one over the other. Another really useful comparison to make is the quality of balance patches and responsiveness to community feedback, which I'm not yet informed enough to make. (edit: added more details in the last paragraph and corrected TTK acronym)
Yeah. Once a character clicks with you, you simply come to enjoy the game way more than you ever thought. Happened to me with atlas and now tyra and Rei, happened to a friend with Raum and Yagorath, which he has 35+ hours in each of those two. Paladins veteran here, kinda. Only got 90 hours total spread through the Last 4 years of my puny existance. I tried some overwatch recently, tho not too much, and i honestly agree with most of the points of the video. The comparisons were inevitable, and thats ok. Tho Furia is definetely not mercy, not even in the type of Angel they are trying to represent. Mercy is, well, Mercyfull good angels Protecting People and Furia is straight up a goddam valkirie with a shotgun. I still like paladins more, as a tank and support main. The amount of times you feel you have to fall back AS A FUCKING TANK in OW is much higher than in paladins most of the times. They both feel like games that focused on different aspects of the "Hero Shooter" genre. Overwatch has a better shooting i gotta admit, but paladins feels much more focused on the abilities and mobility. Some tips about the stuff you found most overwhelming, the item shop and the card system. Items just think about what you are going to grab and do it quickly while respawning. You can double click on an item to buy it without having to drag the mouse to the other side of the screen. Some People prefer to grab tier 1 of all items they are gonna use as soon as possible, others Max an item first then go for the next. Test out items (and characters too) in the shooting range to get an idea, but you usually grab Chronos with healer then either haven or morale boost depending on the character. Flanks grab usually kill to heal and nimble to keep sustain and mobility. Tanks grab rejuvenate to counter the built in antihealing mechanic, then Haven or Veteran for extra meatiness. DPS grab kill to heal, then pretty much any of the red items depending on enemy composition. Torvald putting shield on everyone? Wrecker. Your champion has too long of a reload? Deft hands. Life link Io and a barik? Bulldozer. Lethality id only for People that really feel are good at the game. If you see a flank or dps insta buying Lethality, you kinda fucked, in my experience. For cards my biggest tip? Forget about them. Default decks is enough for your first few hours as a champion. Once you get the feel of the abilities, and know the Basics, you go to make a deck with the mentality "ok, what do i need to suit MY playstyle", or just built a meme loadout like my Max knockback Ash 100% original do not steal. Or just check some guides on the character, that works too. Paladins is a genuinely good game in its own right, regardless of the discussion if it is or isnt better than OW. It has some problems, like the servers being shit, but the rest of the experience is pretty good and *decently* balanced to boot. Good to try around, and i heard ranked its pretty ok too, but im usually not a fun of the competitive scenario. Good luck out there, Champions. VCQQ/VCQQ
Awesome advice! Thanks :) I agree with what you said comparing the two games. OW is definitely more shooter focused while Paladins seems more focus on everything else.
I like paladins more than overwatch mostly because of the characters, for example vora with the double tendril talent can cross open maps in seconds (i'm not joking), same thing with VII. Then there is vatu, who has 3 separate dashes like the ones maeve has (they don'tbdo damage tho). That game has much more mobility than overwatch and the antihealing, items and cards create variety and challenge in every single match. And yes i've played overwatch myself
I might try this, as I'm a bit tired of OW2 ranking and matchmaking. I heard that the game is very buggy, what's your experience with that? Also, it's very cool that youtube is finally starting to suggest smaller channels that I would actually care to support
In terms of polish, it isnt there like OW2 but when it comes to just dumb fun, Paladins surely wins out. So many customizable loadouts, talents, items in shop. Really great to party up with friends. (unless you come across the party bug)
@@zatchbell366 I played like one hour yesterday and I had one or two bugs, but it was nothing gamebreaking... for a few seconds, a foe I eliminated remained in the factory pose and then vanished. What I'm worried about tho is the queueing time and also the menus, they're very confusing. It has the style of a mobile freemium game, but actually playing it is cool, it has cool mechanics, heroes are very cool, it's fluid enough and actually it's beautiful to look at. I regret not having playied it before and hope it will be kept updated and perfected, because it is really worth.
Would love to see you try Evie, as it’s the one of, if not the, highest skill champ in paladins. Granted, I would recommend trying her out for a while in the training grounds first. Btw you can try any champ in there! Nice to see people giving paladins a chance lol
For fun characters in each class try healer grover and mal damba, for flank try Evie vatu and androxous, dps bomb king tyra and drogoz, tank makoa inara and fernando
Fun fact: there was a controversy that kiriko from OW2 was a copy of Io from paladins, since kiriko was a healer AND had a blue fox just like Io from paladins.
quick item guide as a SCRIM player Illuminate- see any champion with a name starting with S when they come close resilience- Reduce all forms of crowd control (if a champion glows yellow they are completely Crowd Control immune) Guardian- Useless item that increases HP of Shields you have in your kit S++ TIER ITEM Haven- reduce ALL forms of damage Nimble- your base walk speed is increases does not stack with something like viktors' Hustle S++ TIER ITEM Master Riding- Your horse is faster allowing you to get back into fights faster Morale boost- You have increased ultimate charge rate Chronos- a must buy on all supports (excluding IO and Lilith) that reduces cooldowns by % amount Kill to heal- Assists and Killing blows now give you health that is not affected by Cauterize(now called anti-heal) life rip- very bad item that gives %healing based on damage dealt by Primary fire or Primary fire like abilities S++ TIER ITEM Rejuvenate- Gain %increased healing from allies S+ TIER ITEM Veteran- Gain %increased base health Bulldozer- deal increased damage to deployables Deft hands- Gain increased reload speed Lethality - Gain a movement speed and jump height boost after a kill or assist(good on heavy snowball champs like Buck) WRECKER- deal massively increased damage to shields (yellow numbers)
It isn't like a clone, it was even more differentiated from OW at launch but they copied things from overwatch because it was just more popular even though paladins was free. The whole hero abilities thing came from global agenda and remember who made that game. But Blizzard just...has that polish they are known for.
I didn't follow any OW2 news and so whrn the game went from an imbalanced 6v6 to an oppressively busted 5v5 I installed paladins right away at the recommendation of my roommate. I now have like 500 hours in the game.
What i like about Paladins more than OW are skins, maybe the visuals won't be as cool as overwatch ones, but they do have unique voicelines, ability fx, voice actors, and they are waay cheaper. Paladins had some cool crossovers like Monstercat or RWBY ones with the BEST SKINS i've seen. The reason why i changed from Paladins from OW was because there were CRAZY amounts of bugs that made the game unplayable, but now it seems like paladins got better so i might come back someday Paladins graphics may not be as modern as OW but i think it's better that way since more people can play it even with very bad pcs (i used to play paladins with 512mb vram years ago lol), also paladins is running in unreal 3, so it explains why
Good points! I also like how Paladins is a bit more 'mature' sometimes. Like it has a character that stabs a voodoo doll to do damage, OW would never do stuff like that!
Pdns started developing earlier than ow, and u can see who copies who these last years with fixed releases, plds devs were always creative and ow always pulled a thomas edison on em
yeah, if you are new to paladins before you wanna play any champion you will have to read their abilities, but after you get used to a couple champs and get your own deck its pretty fun
@@shankodawgy I run very often into a bug that doesn't spawn me the mount and the champion itself gets a speed of flash but I can't do anything till someone hits me or a bug when I play Betty La Bomba her gun magically disappears and I can't see where im shooting at, I'm guessing I'm just lucky 😅
overwatch requires good aim. Palsdins requires smart use of abilities/talents/loadouts. I prefer Paladins because of his depth.(and because my aim such's :p )
It is unfortunate that paladins got hidden under the radar in a sense because of the "F2P OW clone" label, because at the core of the experience, paladins triumphed and still triumphs in many gameplay aspects over OW[2]. Tanks and Supports feel infinitely more fun and are far more diverse & skill expressive to a player's preferred playstyle, all of which gets further enhanced by the card and item systems. I personally thought OW handled DPS's better only because of how much notoriety there was behind the core cast of DPS characters in the early days of OW -- the likes of genji, hanzo, tracer, widow, etc. But all that's not to say that DPS characters on paladins were lacking, they just felt a bit more one dimensional in the grand scheme of things compared to the tanks and supports who had the option to provide more utility along with being a solid damage source and had the ability to make big plays.
That is a good take, I agree the DPS in OW are definitely funner mostly because I think the FPS/Shooter part of the game is done much better, while Paladins maybe is better in other areas.
I used to say that If paladins was as polished as ow and didnt have that many bugs paladins would be the better game. I dont know if that is still true bc i didnt like ow 2 and havent played paladins in a while
Paladins is better when it hits. There’s admittedly a lot more variability though due to not switching characters and some busted load outs or pros. Try Ying with extra health cards, veteran in game card, and focusing lens legendary ability.
Its like csgo and valorant it’s not the same just somehow similar to ow, the talents the ability spam cards and items makes it more enjoyable for me than ow is
If you want easy champions or fun champions to play then vora, zhin, azaan or vatu are some of the fun ones. I think only vatu takes a litle bit longer to get the hang of, but if u mess around in the shooting range with the other you will likely learn them. Ofc my personal oppinion on fun champions may not be the same as for others.
Wait until you stard to experiment with different builds. Theres builds that make you feel like youre using a whole different champion with the right cards and talent like using jumpy jenos haha
i just want to say i have over 3k hours in this game, i highly recommend sticking to every gamemode but siege untell u get used to more champs (in this game the 'heros' are champions), stay tf away from ranked just dont go close to it. give some of the hyper mobile champs a try if ur looking for some high fast paced action aka vii,andro,vora if ur looking for more of a chill layd back time try out some tanks like azaan or khan maybe even makoa im sure you'll get a roadhog feeling from him. welcome to paladins where the community is infested with hackers and racist i wish u the best of luck solder o7.
I stop playing paladins after they put perma healing reduction last time i play barik i wont die in the middle of the fight because of the healing of my turrets now i wont last for 10-15 sec in the front line same on ruckus for absurd attack speed and buying it with life steal
Almost everyone bought caut anyway. It was necessary to bring diversity to item buying. It's really not that hard to not get hit for 2 seconds if you need healing.
Use more cover , antia healing is anoying but if you avoid damage for 3.5 seconds you will recive normal healing values , also , rejuvenate can negate up to 60% anti healing
Paladins is way more creative with character abilities than OW. So many high mobility champions that feel super fun as the game doesn't employ the stupid hard counter mechanic. Most CCs are skill based and overly not opressive, barely any one-shots to turn your game into walking out of spawn simulator. 3 legendaries and card loadout system to tune a champion to fit your playstyle. Balance team also does really good job, unlike clueless fools at Blizz that sneak power creep after power creep and make dive unplayable into many heroes at their skill floor. I'm just super sad that Paladins is stuck with outdated engine, super buggy GUI, and trash network infrastructure. I might try new Season 6 PvE stuff, but playing Doom or Tracer into 5 CCs and 4 hard counters every damn game will def make me quit OW for good. Paladins will forever be my comfort FPS, and I hope it will become one for you too ❤
paladins is not an overwatch clone at all.. they came out almost at the same time and got their inspiration from the same old-school hero shooters. Sure there are similarities but they copy character abilities from each other if u want to see it that way. It's the same genre, but completely different games.
@@shankodawgy TF2 ofc, Aurum and also of one of their own game the studio created, Global Agenda. They took most of the abilities from those games and started working on paladins before blizzard started developing overwatch.
I know this is a dead comparison so blame the OW devs for making it in the first place, but Paladins feels a lot more like TF2 than Overwatch ever has which is probably why I actually like it, where as i cannot have fun playing Overwatch even when I try because it just feels like a MOBA.
Not only are the characters kits much more original than overwatch (not the charachters. The charachters are copy paste of your standard fantasy characters) but I love the everything that cards and items allows you to do. I really don't like anti healing. I feel like they should just nerf healing across the board and remove anti healing. I hate how if you have a decent healer no one dies for the first couple rounds and then after that no one heals for shit
@@shankodawgy I think the most annoying part about it though is that anti-healing also affects self-healing. Characters like vora. Or cards that give you healing become pretty much useless in the late game and aren't all that strong in the early game.
@@idkmanp9573 just wait a sec and half for the cautarize effect to nullify then the healing will be just as u expect..!!! But yeah it is a bit annoying..!!!
Cauterize (anti healing) makes you have to play cover more often to get out of cauterize heals at endgame meaning more strategizing. Low anti heal at the start of games usually make for longer matches to make more interesting endgames. One thing I hated the most in overwatch was that healers just felt the same throughout the game, there was no need to change playstyle other than swapping characters to counter. In paladins, you could be more aggressive at early game due to high sustain and low cauterize, then start to play more passively at endgame
Im sorry but with the ow 2 changes i dont see the arguement anymore of paladins copying ow (ofc some original characters are really similar but thats mostly bc they arent original designes in general in the first place (fe. Fernando-Reinhart) with Fernando being in developement before they even knew of ow. But what ow´s doing now is just really near to the paladins core gameplay 6v6 to 5v5 and now they are implementing heal ovt... No hate on ow tho I just like paladins more and wanted to point that out
while ow has better graphics an is a cleaner game, paladins has so much more options that you can do to your champion, with having different load outs an talents an how customization it is beats ow by a long shot. With ow you only have one play style that you can play around while in paladins there so much more. Devs are working on making the game more smooth an it defintly is better than what it was an the game has came very far from its begging, im also more of a fan of paladins due to the amount of champions that they have, with there variety of champions an different abilites it can deffently be difficult for a new player to learn the game but after playing the game for about a week or two you can really get the game down an understand all of the different cc's that they ect. I wouldnt say that it isnt an ecact clone of ow now they definitly to have there similarities such as solider 76 and victor, an hog an makoa, but overall they do have there differences an if you enjoy a hero shoot where you can customize your champion to your own liking then i would go with paladins but if you like learning a character with one play style then i would stick with ow, but with the current state of ow, id probably just stick with paladins.
It can't be an overwatch clone for the simple fact is that it was in Beta before overwatch came out Overwatch actually released first but paladins was in development Is first
They both came out at same time and lot of hero in paladins and overwatch take inspiration from one another and other and just coinsurance like soldier and vergal or dva and ruckus who was revealed first so paladins couldnt have copied dva like alot of ow players say. Im a gm3 support on overwatch who just started paladins so i dont side with one or the other
not genji, highlnder demo, not mercy, medic, I believe Paladins is less like overwatch and more like the bedrock foundation that overwatch was built on being TF2. I would say it sit snuggly between the 2 with a dash of moba spice to the customiztion
homie calling furia, which depends on you balancing buffing yourself with burst heals, and hard CCing the enemys with doing damage or punishing OPs to mercy, a pocket character about movement is where the OW brainrot really sets in XD
You had no time to buy items because you played payload. Play siege, paladins "main" gamemode, where the respawn timer is longer, also you have more preperation phases and the maps are shorter so you dont need to take long routes to get back to the battle.
I wanna like thjs because yall is actualy admitting they are diffrent But I cant stand how ignorant you were being about Paladins Like did you know that Paladins was being made BEFORE overwatch? Paladins began development in 2012, and arguably started its original pitch was from 2008 Overwatch began development in 2013. With an official reveal in 2014. If ANYONE should call any game a ripoff Overwatch is a Paladins ripoff. But noone sees this because Overwatch is more popular and the only reason its more popular is because it was backed by a more popular company
I get comparing Maeve to Genji, but I can't think of a single thing Furia has in common with Mercy, besides being a healer.
Not much once you actually play, but first impressions just by their character designs they seemed like they would be similar.
It's the winged healer aesthetic
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She also says "You expected mercy?" As one of her kill streak quotes like she knows she looks similar but plays different
@@xuanathan Mercy is a word of the english dictionnary, not an overwatch reference
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Actually, most of the similarities between Paladins and Overwatch are due to the fact that both are based on a 2010 game called Global Agenda, and it is unlikely that they could have been inspired by each other because the first betas of both games came out with barely a month apart, not to mention that there is a confusion with the paladins announcement date because the game changed its name many times before its release
Interesting! It’s my first time hearing about global agenda, here I thought OW was inspired by TF2 for the most part.
see this is what a lot of people say but it completely discounts the way Paladins changed overnight. It was much more of a moba, the primary reason they have mounts in the game, that had multiple points you had to take before it became a payload map
Wait so technically Overwatch is the copycat because Paladins are by Hi-Rez who also made the Global Agenda 👀
@@Pajron21Yes, and a lot of people just either miss that or go ahead and just say "PaLadiNs ClooNe OverwAtch"
Since Global Agenda died, Hi rez just gave those abilities a new coat of paint, and also, a lot abilities if not champions seem similar, but function or just are completely different.
@@camerongrondzki2716 yeah that was then, this is now. and is it really so bad to take notes? overwatch character designs are incredibly simple when it comes to their kits, blizzard doesn't get to own "dwarf who makes a turret" or "man with revolver". and almost all of that stuff has been reworked to be completely different anyway
I understand that the Paladins item store can be overwhelming, but once you get used to it u can almost instantly buy stuff.
Yeah I noticed that, the hardest part was remembering to buy stuff whenever you get a chance. It’s also nice that the upgrades are the same for everyone.
@@shankodawgy Ya, it took me a while too, just buy whatever you think is good then as you learn game mechanics you figure it out, or you can watch someone liek AndrewChicken to learn
@@shankodawgyas a long time paladins player, whenever i play ow i always instinctively press i after i die to buy items lol
@@shankodawgy In item store from a moba like lol There are 100 items and they do a lot of thing and have a lot of text. In Paladins items are 16 and they do just one thing.
@@shankodawgy it's just a matter of practice, right now I instinctively press i after I die. Hell, when I watch TH-cam I press i after the youtuber dies lol
Paladins only got called an OW clone because blizzard was more popular, they both came out at pretty much the same time if i remember right
And everyone ignores that overwatch also ripped some things from paladins.
Skye, the invisible purple lady with an SMG-type weapon was in paladins before sombra released.
Bastion's ult in overwatch was changed to be more like viktor's ult.
Hanzo and sha lin are often compared, but overwatch changed hanzo's scatter arrow into a plant stance, which sha lin already had.
Wrecking ball is pretty similar to ruckus, in that they both have dual machine guns, are both a small creature piloting a robot who can talk, and both have an ability that adds a lot of shield to their health. Ruckus came first.
So it's not really as simple as 'paladins stole from overwatch', but that seems to be what most people think.
I remember arguing back when OW1 was still fresh. I was and still a heavy Paladins advocate because of the store and card system. The newest update feels just like og Paladins.
same here. glad more and more people are finding this game
The game was definitely overshadowed by Overwatch at first but seems to be doing well for itself now, I am glad I gave it a shot.
@shankodawgy for sure! hopefully you keep enjoying!
@@shankodawgy I talked to Kresnik recently who used to cast Paladins Pro League and he is the one who got me back into the game again. Glad to see more and more people are coming to it!
Always hated people calling this an overwatch clone when it was in development before overwatch was
I always wondered how similar ideas always come out at the same time. It happened with multiverse type movies too, they all came at the same time despite them being in development at the same time.
@@shankodawgyna they copied each other . Fernando copied rein makoa prob copied roadhog lex prob copied reaper ,nyx copied ramatra ,for ow sombra copied skye hanzo rework is literally a shalin ripoff except the sonar arrow wrecking ball copied ruckus and ash copied lian. def a lot more but at the start they copied each other a lot.
@@zatchbell366 no, what he was saying is that paladins was in development before overwatch was even thought of, they did copy each other over the years so thats true.
@@zatchbell366 bruh how is lex a copy of reaper, when the way he works is completely different. Lex deals good damage, but he is not someone you expect to melt tanks at super close range like reaper.
Lots of those stuff you mentioned "copied" other characters are complete nitpicks that only shows one thing that may be considered similar. Like how the hell in the slightest is lian in any way shape of form similar to ashe again? Yes hitscan that shoots quite fast, but that is about it.
That's not entirely true. In a Reddit post, the former CEO of Hi-Rez Studios admitted that Paladins and Overwatch coincidentally had the same idea at the same time, and that they tried changing the game's mechanics because they didn't want to compete against a giant like Blizzard, until eventually they changed their minds.
i always liked paladins more because the item purchasing system and the talents and custom loadouts, because they add so much variety to it. In Overwatch u have 1 way to play a character, in Paladins u have atleast 3 with the talents, but u can create ur own.
The customization is super interesting!
@@shankodawgy please don't try and play this game like it overwatch 2 cause they are called champions
I think it's a much deeper game than OW but got overshadowed because it feels like an indie game against it. OW is/was polished as hell and well thought trow. Paladins had many bugs, identity changes, and a worse balance. Those are things that are too annoying for most players and let them throw the game. But they catch it now slowly but steady. Much less big bugs, a steady identity, and the balance slowly getting better. It's the best time for Paladins. I hope they hold it like this
The both have their own pros/cons for sure
@@shankodawgy sure both great fun game I mean with deeper just that you have more to know in like the real gaming/meta aspect
ngl i prefer paladins over overwatch, but some time ago there just was a bug where enemy couldnt score a point even when they won, so it was just an insta win long match for us
Glad to see more people giving Paladins a fair shake ~ I installed it ages ago on a lark and after finally getting sick of OW2's predatory monetization nonsense, I booted it back up again. I've unlocked all of the heroes with gold earned from casually playing, and I was a mediocre Overwatch player; the level of skill expression that can be felt through getting increasingly better at champions in Paladins feels way, WAY better than Overwatch did - and with the card system it adds another layer of depth to let you really lean into a certain playstyle. They also actually give you stuff for free, wich OW2 doesn't really do anymore. I wanted to try the new heroes but nope, paywalled behind a battlepass =/ what nonsense! If you just play a little you'll be earning enough gold to buy all the champions you want, and they have a free rotation that changes every week so you'll always be able to play some new heroes each week, which feels more than fair.
I agree the monetization is in OW is pretty bad. The new characters do become free to play though after the battle pass season is over! Just need to do some challenges to unlock them.
@@shankodawgy you call it a clone before you even reached level 5 and understood anything about the game
You played it so little didn't even know how the item store worked you didn't even play long enough to learn anything besides shoot and press buttons
Overwatch does site one of its inpirations to be Global Agenda and in the case for characters like phara they site Tribes to be the inpiration, which is highly ironic because both of those games are made by the same studio who made Paladins lol. Paladins was made to be a spiritual successor to Gobal Agenda from the same studio who created it. Both Overwatch and Paladins started development at around the same exact time, so Paladins really ended up being done dirty by the "overwatch clone" allegations, very ironic.
That being said, when HiRez saw the success of early overwatch they did change their main gamemode to be more similar to it, but let's be honest, capture & push gamemodes weren't invented by OW so Paladins can only be faulted for "copying" as much as OW there.
Paladins was in the making an entire year before Overwatch was thought of. It’s come a long way since the very beginning, I’ve been there since day 1 and could tell you every moment in it’s history of bugs, changes, etc.
On that note, if you want to become better at it in at least the basics first things first is learn your talents, loadouts, in game items, how cauterize (anti healing) works, your maps, comeback mechanic, the differences between off tank/point tank, off support/main support, positioning and line/out of line of sight to refresh anti healing for heals.
These are only merely the BASICS for this game.
Edit: I forgot to mention learning the credit system and how it works for your items and what you should do in your particular class to obtain as much as you can.
Thanks for the tips! :)
great video! as a 7k+ hour paladins veteran I'm happy to see you enjoying the game despite being an overwatch player 😇
Thanks! :)
Before you can answer that question you need to know Paladins( Global Agenda 2) was in development in 2012 a year before Overwatch/Titan started production. There's no way the game could have been made between may 2015( Overwatch release) and September 2016( full Paladins rel;ease) sure in those months Hi-Rez could have borrowed some things from Overwatch but Overwatch has taken ideas from Paladins also
Paladins is just so much more bright than Overwatch, and from my experience much less competitive, at least in casual matches. No one feels pressured to play a certain role, I've seen teams of all flank, all damages, all supports, and all tanks, both win and lose. That car customization really shows how you play your champion in each specific situation in addition to the talents. I love the game, it's one of the only fps games I actually enjoy, started since alpha and seeing it grow this much has been great.
Paladins is one of my favorite games of all time, I love it.
Looking forward to the new character!
this is such a good overview of the game! i like how you even explained about the cards in a very fair way too! really enjoyed the vid, earned a like.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
good to see people giving this game an honest shot, it has a lot of issues mostly around the polish of the game but it definetly has its own charm especially in the replayability department with loadouts and items making two instances of the same champion vastly different
Very true
@@shankodawgy hey go ask for that overwatch w pve game they promised at blizzcon 2019 with quest and talent trees and upgradeable stuff go get that first
The ability to ban characters in ranked is very S tier
I am not familiar with hero banning in games, so that will be interesting to see what happens if somebodies main gest banned.
I admittedly dropped Paladins around 3 years ago due to lack of QoL features and overall polish compared to OW. With the way things are going now though, I can see at least 4 good reasons to pick it up again over OW:
*1)* Heroes (AKA champions) must be locked in at the start of the match, preventing a constant counterpicking meta which is prevalent in other hero shooters and tends to drive away players who like to commit to a certain main. To compensate for this, champions are highly customizable through the dozens of passive buff options, including a simple LoL-like list of items, which can be adjusted mid-game to adapt to whatever current disadvantages your team comp may be dealing with. This combined with the whopping 20 additional heroes over OW allows much more variety for players to cultivate their own unique playstyles and team comp specialties.
*2)* Around two years ago, Paladins reworked their "cauterize" item, which would give enemies a brief healing debuff when hit, exactly like how the current DPS passive works in OW2. Since this was such a must-pick in the Paladins meta, they instead made it a passive for everyone, allowing more item points to be spent elsewhere. The cauterize meta is probably what inspired the new DPS passive in OW2.
*3)* Less than a year ago, Paladins ditched their Switch port. Although this is obviously bad news for Switch-exclusive players, this opened up a lot more possibilities for the devs to add features without the hardware restrictions of the Switch. Perhaps the most notable change is the inclusion of larger maps.
*4)* Despite coming out a year before Paladins and having much more development resources, OW has been recently taking notes from Paladins gameplay. Although much of these changes are pretty much already standard in the genre and genres like it, the list of changes include: the new F2P model, 5v5, higher TTK, larger hitboxes, passive regen out of combat, as well as the previously mentioned healing debuff effect.
All of this combined with Acti-Blizz's abrupt change in staff and vision, as well as their absurd amount of controversies over the years tends to give players less and less reasons to pick OW over Paladins. Not to imply that you need to exclusively pick one over the other. Another really useful comparison to make is the quality of balance patches and responsiveness to community feedback, which I'm not yet informed enough to make. (edit: added more details in the last paragraph and corrected TTK acronym)
Yeah. Once a character clicks with you, you simply come to enjoy the game way more than you ever thought. Happened to me with atlas and now tyra and Rei, happened to a friend with Raum and Yagorath, which he has 35+ hours in each of those two.
Paladins veteran here, kinda. Only got 90 hours total spread through the Last 4 years of my puny existance. I tried some overwatch recently, tho not too much, and i honestly agree with most of the points of the video. The comparisons were inevitable, and thats ok. Tho Furia is definetely not mercy, not even in the type of Angel they are trying to represent. Mercy is, well, Mercyfull good angels Protecting People and Furia is straight up a goddam valkirie with a shotgun. I still like paladins more, as a tank and support main. The amount of times you feel you have to fall back AS A FUCKING TANK in OW is much higher than in paladins most of the times. They both feel like games that focused on different aspects of the "Hero Shooter" genre. Overwatch has a better shooting i gotta admit, but paladins feels much more focused on the abilities and mobility.
Some tips about the stuff you found most overwhelming, the item shop and the card system.
Items just think about what you are going to grab and do it quickly while respawning. You can double click on an item to buy it without having to drag the mouse to the other side of the screen. Some People prefer to grab tier 1 of all items they are gonna use as soon as possible, others Max an item first then go for the next. Test out items (and characters too) in the shooting range to get an idea, but you usually grab Chronos with healer then either haven or morale boost depending on the character. Flanks grab usually kill to heal and nimble to keep sustain and mobility. Tanks grab rejuvenate to counter the built in antihealing mechanic, then Haven or Veteran for extra meatiness. DPS grab kill to heal, then pretty much any of the red items depending on enemy composition. Torvald putting shield on everyone? Wrecker. Your champion has too long of a reload? Deft hands. Life link Io and a barik? Bulldozer. Lethality id only for People that really feel are good at the game. If you see a flank or dps insta buying Lethality, you kinda fucked, in my experience.
For cards my biggest tip? Forget about them. Default decks is enough for your first few hours as a champion. Once you get the feel of the abilities, and know the Basics, you go to make a deck with the mentality "ok, what do i need to suit MY playstyle", or just built a meme loadout like my Max knockback Ash 100% original do not steal. Or just check some guides on the character, that works too.
Paladins is a genuinely good game in its own right, regardless of the discussion if it is or isnt better than OW. It has some problems, like the servers being shit, but the rest of the experience is pretty good and *decently* balanced to boot. Good to try around, and i heard ranked its pretty ok too, but im usually not a fun of the competitive scenario. Good luck out there, Champions. VCQQ/VCQQ
Awesome advice! Thanks :) I agree with what you said comparing the two games. OW is definitely more shooter focused while Paladins seems more focus on everything else.
i love how im mediocre at overwatch but a god at paladins, always fun to switch the games up whenever i start to get frustrated or bored
True! It’s nice to switch it up, I’ve also recently got Diablo in the rotation 😎
Its bcz overwatch is all about aiming and team play
Thats a lie, if you are good at one, you can be good in both, I was diamond in Paladins and I reached Platinum in OW2 in a week of playing it
@@danekdark how did you even get diamond on paladins no one plays comp
@@berzusula try NA dude, you can always find a match
I like paladins more than overwatch mostly because of the characters, for example vora with the double tendril talent can cross open maps in seconds (i'm not joking), same thing with VII. Then there is vatu, who has 3 separate dashes like the ones maeve has (they don'tbdo damage tho). That game has much more mobility than overwatch and the antihealing, items and cards create variety and challenge in every single match. And yes i've played overwatch myself
I am a fan of movement so that does sound pretty dope
Very niceee video I'm a long time Paladins fan and I'm so thankful overwatch players are giving it a try
Glad you enjoyed!
FINALLY SOMEONE PLAYS THIS!! Dude we gotta queue up sometime. I used to play this all the time when it first came to switch
Hell yeah! lets do it
It got removed from Switch unfortunately
@@Xedigon nooooooooooooo
Originally yes,but now I feel likes it’s way better despite its lack of polish.
Thats lowkey the charm of the game for me lol
They are both fun! I still have a lot to learn in Paladins though.
They're slowly polishing up the game, it was way worse back then lmao
It’s funny fir me cause I played paladins before I ever touched Overwatch, and I did play ow1 in the last year
This video is amazing Shanko. Good edits. Good commentary. 10/10
Thanks man, that means a lot! 😎
I might try this, as I'm a bit tired of OW2 ranking and matchmaking. I heard that the game is very buggy, what's your experience with that?
Also, it's very cool that youtube is finally starting to suggest smaller channels that I would actually care to support
I definitely ran into my fair share of bugs. It doesn’t feel as “polished” as OW in that sense but it’s a lot of fun despite that.
In terms of polish, it isnt there like OW2 but when it comes to just dumb fun, Paladins surely wins out. So many customizable loadouts, talents, items in shop. Really great to party up with friends. (unless you come across the party bug)
some ppl have a ton of bugs, personally only bug i have is crashing once every couple weeks in a ranked queue.
@@zatchbell366 I played like one hour yesterday and I had one or two bugs, but it was nothing gamebreaking... for a few seconds, a foe I eliminated remained in the factory pose and then vanished. What I'm worried about tho is the queueing time and also the menus, they're very confusing. It has the style of a mobile freemium game, but actually playing it is cool, it has cool mechanics, heroes are very cool, it's fluid enough and actually it's beautiful to look at. I regret not having playied it before and hope it will be kept updated and perfected, because it is really worth.
@@q_yrko9067 I agree with the "mobile-ish" quality of their main menu and loading screen, but it's something that might hopefully change in the future
Would love to see you try Evie, as it’s the one of, if not the, highest skill champ in paladins. Granted, I would recommend trying her out for a while in the training grounds first. Btw you can try any champ in there! Nice to see people giving paladins a chance lol
Sounds like fun! I will be streaming this again soon so I will give them a try :)
For fun characters in each class try healer grover and mal damba, for flank try Evie vatu and androxous, dps bomb king tyra and drogoz, tank makoa inara and fernando
Will check them out!
Fun fact: there was a controversy that kiriko from OW2 was a copy of Io from paladins, since kiriko was a healer AND had a blue fox just like Io from paladins.
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on payload there is no bots, so the people you were playing against in the first clip were actual people
underrated channel
Thank you! 🙏
Paladins is underrated
Hey welcome brother! Glad you gave the game a try! I keep telling people that this game does have something for everyone. Lovely video!
Thanks dude!
Youre chill man, earned a subscriber, the item shop gets fun later in the game,
Thank you 🙏. I like the depth the customization adds.
Paladins is older than OW
quick item guide as a SCRIM player
Illuminate- see any champion with a name starting with S when they come close
resilience- Reduce all forms of crowd control (if a champion glows yellow they are completely Crowd Control immune)
Guardian- Useless item that increases HP of Shields you have in your kit
S++ TIER ITEM Haven- reduce ALL forms of damage
Nimble- your base walk speed is increases does not stack with something like viktors' Hustle
S++ TIER ITEM Master Riding- Your horse is faster allowing you to get back into fights faster
Morale boost- You have increased ultimate charge rate
Chronos- a must buy on all supports (excluding IO and Lilith) that reduces cooldowns by % amount
Kill to heal- Assists and Killing blows now give you health that is not affected by Cauterize(now called anti-heal)
life rip- very bad item that gives %healing based on damage dealt by Primary fire or Primary fire like abilities
S++ TIER ITEM Rejuvenate- Gain %increased healing from allies
S+ TIER ITEM Veteran- Gain %increased base health
Bulldozer- deal increased damage to deployables
Deft hands- Gain increased reload speed
Lethality - Gain a movement speed and jump height boost after a kill or assist(good on heavy snowball champs like Buck)
WRECKER- deal massively increased damage to shields (yellow numbers)
Yo! Thanks for the tips 😎
@shankodawgy anything to help the playerbase get past that annoying learning phase and into the fun phase
Funny thing is alot of champs were out before OW heroes. But paladins is so how the clone.
If you ever play this game again you have to give Buck with bounce house and proper cards a try
Noted! I will probably be playing again!
@@shankodawgy :DDDDDDD
welcome aboard we have a lot of ow players now
It isn't like a clone, it was even more differentiated from OW at launch but they copied things from overwatch because it was just more popular even though paladins was free. The whole hero abilities thing came from global agenda and remember who made that game. But Blizzard just...has that polish they are known for.
Good to know, it would be cool to see Paladins side by side on first launch compared to OW
I didn't follow any OW2 news and so whrn the game went from an imbalanced 6v6 to an oppressively busted 5v5 I installed paladins right away at the recommendation of my roommate. I now have like 500 hours in the game.
Glad you are enjoying it! :)
What i like about Paladins more than OW are skins, maybe the visuals won't be as cool as overwatch ones, but they do have unique voicelines, ability fx, voice actors, and they are waay cheaper. Paladins had some cool crossovers like Monstercat or RWBY ones with the BEST SKINS i've seen. The reason why i changed from Paladins from OW was because there were CRAZY amounts of bugs that made the game unplayable, but now it seems like paladins got better so i might come back someday
Paladins graphics may not be as modern as OW but i think it's better that way since more people can play it even with very bad pcs (i used to play paladins with 512mb vram years ago lol), also paladins is running in unreal 3, so it explains why
Good points! I also like how Paladins is a bit more 'mature' sometimes. Like it has a character that stabs a voodoo doll to do damage, OW would never do stuff like that!
Pdns started developing earlier than ow, and u can see who copies who these last years with fixed releases, plds devs were always creative and ow always pulled a thomas edison on em
Paladins content lets goooo
would love to see more in the future!
For sure! 😎
Go Team Furia Paladins Team!
Go TFP!
yeah, if you are new to paladins before you wanna play any champion you will have to read their abilities, but after you get used to a couple champs and get your own deck its pretty fun
If they would fix the bugs and servers issues and polish the graphics, this game would be FAR MORE popular than Overwatch could ever be
I did run into a few bugs but nothing gamebreaking so far thankfully
@@shankodawgy I run very often into a bug that doesn't spawn me the mount and the champion itself gets a speed of flash but I can't do anything till someone hits me or a bug when I play Betty La Bomba her gun magically disappears and I can't see where im shooting at, I'm guessing I'm just lucky 😅
ive seen your streams on the game. you can test characters in the shooting range before buying them.
welcome to paladins :D
Thanks! :)
overwatch requires good aim. Palsdins requires smart use of abilities/talents/loadouts. I prefer Paladins because of his depth.(and because my aim such's :p )
Pretty accurate
You should try mal damba he's literally THE best support in paladins
As a pseudo damba main I agree
Noted!
Im vinix from the lives! You should try playing betty la nomba sometime its so fun and so easy. Nice vid btw❤
YO Vinny! thanks dude!
It is unfortunate that paladins got hidden under the radar in a sense because of the "F2P OW clone" label, because at the core of the experience, paladins triumphed and still triumphs in many gameplay aspects over OW[2]. Tanks and Supports feel infinitely more fun and are far more diverse & skill expressive to a player's preferred playstyle, all of which gets further enhanced by the card and item systems. I personally thought OW handled DPS's better only because of how much notoriety there was behind the core cast of DPS characters in the early days of OW -- the likes of genji, hanzo, tracer, widow, etc. But all that's not to say that DPS characters on paladins were lacking, they just felt a bit more one dimensional in the grand scheme of things compared to the tanks and supports who had the option to provide more utility along with being a solid damage source and had the ability to make big plays.
That is a good take, I agree the DPS in OW are definitely funner mostly because I think the FPS/Shooter part of the game is done much better, while Paladins maybe is better in other areas.
You should try Tiberius, Moji, Pip, VII, Terminus, Torvald.
Who plays moji in this day and age XD
I will check them out!
I used to say that If paladins was as polished as ow and didnt have that many bugs paladins would be the better game. I dont know if that is still true bc i didnt like ow 2 and havent played paladins in a while
Paladins is better when it hits. There’s admittedly a lot more variability though due to not switching characters and some busted load outs or pros. Try Ying with extra health cards, veteran in game card, and focusing lens legendary ability.
Its like csgo and valorant it’s not the same just somehow similar to ow, the talents the ability spam cards and items makes it more enjoyable for me than ow is
If you want easy champions or fun champions to play then vora, zhin, azaan or vatu are some of the fun ones. I think only vatu takes a litle bit longer to get the hang of, but if u mess around in the shooting range with the other you will likely learn them. Ofc my personal oppinion on fun champions may not be the same as for others.
Thanks for the suggestions!
Mal’Damba
Wekono’s Wrath
Many Gourds V
Sustenance IV
Snake Pit III
Fleeting II
Feed the Spirits I
What is this??
@@shankodawgy Mal'Damba loadout+talent choice
Wait until you stard to experiment with different builds. Theres builds that make you feel like youre using a whole different champion with the right cards and talent like using jumpy jenos haha
Sounds interesting :O
If you search for something completwly different from OW, play Azaan, thedude just holds W and takes up everything
i just want to say i have over 3k hours in this game, i highly recommend sticking to every gamemode but siege untell u get used to more champs (in this game the 'heros' are champions), stay tf away from ranked just dont go close to it. give some of the hyper mobile champs a try if ur looking for some high fast paced action aka vii,andro,vora if ur looking for more of a chill layd back time try out some tanks like azaan or khan maybe even makoa im sure you'll get a roadhog feeling from him. welcome to paladins where the community is infested with hackers and racist i wish u the best of luck solder o7.
Ty for the tips! I do kind of want to try ranked though 😆
I stop playing paladins after they put perma healing reduction last time i play barik i wont die in the middle of the fight because of the healing of my turrets now i wont last for 10-15 sec in the front line same on ruckus for absurd attack speed and buying it with life steal
Almost everyone bought caut anyway. It was necessary to bring diversity to item buying. It's really not that hard to not get hit for 2 seconds if you need healing.
Use more cover , antia healing is anoying but if you avoid damage for 3.5 seconds you will recive normal healing values , also , rejuvenate can negate up to 60% anti healing
Paladins is way more creative with character abilities than OW. So many high mobility champions that feel super fun as the game doesn't employ the stupid hard counter mechanic. Most CCs are skill based and overly not opressive, barely any one-shots to turn your game into walking out of spawn simulator. 3 legendaries and card loadout system to tune a champion to fit your playstyle. Balance team also does really good job, unlike clueless fools at Blizz that sneak power creep after power creep and make dive unplayable into many heroes at their skill floor. I'm just super sad that Paladins is stuck with outdated engine, super buggy GUI, and trash network infrastructure. I might try new Season 6 PvE stuff, but playing Doom or Tracer into 5 CCs and 4 hard counters every damn game will def make me quit OW for good. Paladins will forever be my comfort FPS, and I hope it will become one for you too ❤
paladins is not an overwatch clone at all.. they came out almost at the same time and got their inspiration from the same old-school hero shooters. Sure there are similarities but they copy character abilities from each other if u want to see it that way. It's the same genre, but completely different games.
Which old-school hero shooter? TF2?
@@shankodawgy TF2 ofc, Aurum and also of one of their own game the studio created, Global Agenda. They took most of the abilities from those games and started working on paladins before blizzard started developing overwatch.
I know this is a dead comparison so blame the OW devs for making it in the first place, but Paladins feels a lot more like TF2 than Overwatch ever has which is probably why I actually like it, where as i cannot have fun playing Overwatch even when I try because it just feels like a MOBA.
Not only are the characters kits much more original than overwatch (not the charachters. The charachters are copy paste of your standard fantasy characters) but I love the everything that cards and items allows you to do. I really don't like anti healing. I feel like they should just nerf healing across the board and remove anti healing. I hate how if you have a decent healer no one dies for the first couple rounds and then after that no one heals for shit
Yeah the anti healing was rough, especially since the healers in this one dont constantly heal in the first place.
@@shankodawgy I think the most annoying part about it though is that anti-healing also affects self-healing. Characters like vora. Or cards that give you healing become pretty much useless in the late game and aren't all that strong in the early game.
@@idkmanp9573 just wait a sec and half for the cautarize effect to nullify then the healing will be just as u expect..!!! But yeah it is a bit annoying..!!!
Cauterize (anti healing) makes you have to play cover more often to get out of cauterize heals at endgame meaning more strategizing. Low anti heal at the start of games usually make for longer matches to make more interesting endgames. One thing I hated the most in overwatch was that healers just felt the same throughout the game, there was no need to change playstyle other than swapping characters to counter. In paladins, you could be more aggressive at early game due to high sustain and low cauterize, then start to play more passively at endgame
@@idkmanp9573that's why objects such as kill to heal is a must pick imo
Im sorry but with the ow 2 changes i dont see the arguement anymore of paladins copying ow (ofc some original characters are really similar but thats mostly bc they arent original designes in general in the first place (fe. Fernando-Reinhart) with Fernando being in developement before they even knew of ow. But what ow´s doing now is just really near to the paladins core gameplay 6v6 to 5v5 and now they are implementing heal ovt... No hate on ow tho I just like paladins more and wanted to point that out
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while ow has better graphics an is a cleaner game, paladins has so much more options that you can do to your champion, with having different load outs an talents an how customization it is beats ow by a long shot. With ow you only have one play style that you can play around while in paladins there so much more. Devs are working on making the game more smooth an it defintly is better than what it was an the game has came very far from its begging, im also more of a fan of paladins due to the amount of champions that they have, with there variety of champions an different abilites it can deffently be difficult for a new player to learn the game but after playing the game for about a week or two you can really get the game down an understand all of the different cc's that they ect. I wouldnt say that it isnt an ecact clone of ow now they definitly to have there similarities such as solider 76 and victor, an hog an makoa, but overall they do have there differences an if you enjoy a hero shoot where you can customize your champion to your own liking then i would go with paladins but if you like learning a character with one play style then i would stick with ow, but with the current state of ow, id probably just stick with paladins.
There is definitely more variety in Paladins for each character 100%
In my opionion the biggest upside paladins has over overwatch is that i can play it on my potato computer at 60 fps
Fun fact, paladins was actually in development prior to ow. So ow would actually be the ripoff
Judging by the names of the enemy players on the feed, I don't think those were bots but rather players that are newbies as you
Good to know 😎
It can't be an overwatch clone for the simple fact is that it was in Beta before overwatch came out Overwatch actually released first but paladins was in development Is first
Now OW2 is starting to use all the paladins mechanics lol 😂
it's all TF2 clones.
dunno why people say that when ow and paladins are BASED OFF A GAME HI REZ MADE global agenda lol
its crazy coz paladins was made first so overwatch is the clone who stole and got the success
and all of u idiots that keep calling paladins the clone is the craziest coz ive never seen a better game than paladins, overwatch is boring
They both came out at same time and lot of hero in paladins and overwatch take inspiration from one another and other and just coinsurance like soldier and vergal or dva and ruckus who was revealed first so paladins couldnt have copied dva like alot of ow players say. Im a gm3 support on overwatch who just started paladins so i dont side with one or the other
Play Khan or Fernando. Or Makoa.
Paladins open beta came out first so ow would be the clone
not genji, highlnder demo, not mercy, medic, I believe Paladins is less like overwatch and more like the bedrock foundation that overwatch was built on being TF2. I would say it sit snuggly between the 2 with a dash of moba spice to the customiztion
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Hahaha play terminus tank role!
I will check it out!
i can assure you that paladins is not and overwatch copy lmao
paladins will always be more fun becauae of card system
The card system is dope!
Paladins is declining due to lack of funding from hirez, id rather play overwatch because at least they somewhat fund the game.
It is nice to be able to go back and forth imo!
Overwatch lookin weird on a 1080
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Bruh! Overwatch 2 is copying paladins now...
We've been known paladins was a overwatch clone lmao
Are you sure about that
It’s not tho💀
I think paladins is great
homie calling furia, which depends on you balancing buffing yourself with burst heals, and hard CCing the enemys with doing damage or punishing OPs to mercy, a pocket character about movement is where the OW brainrot really sets in XD
u just spam heals and laser tbh
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ow is free ? lol, might actually try it instead of paladins
Yeah! It’s been free to play for a while now, it’s a great game in my opinion 😎
paladins was in development before overwatch was even thought about, overwatch copied paladins and succeeded.
You had no time to buy items because you played payload.
Play siege, paladins "main" gamemode, where the respawn timer is longer, also you have more preperation phases and the maps are shorter so you dont need to take long routes to get back to the battle.
That makes a lot of sense
Naw cant be a clone if it actually gets content, unlike ow 0.9
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I wanna like thjs because yall is actualy admitting they are diffrent
But I cant stand how ignorant you were being about Paladins
Like did you know that Paladins was being made BEFORE overwatch?
Paladins began development in 2012, and arguably started its original pitch was from 2008
Overwatch began development in 2013. With an official reveal in 2014.
If ANYONE should call any game a ripoff
Overwatch is a Paladins ripoff. But noone sees this because Overwatch is more popular and the only reason its more popular is because it was backed by a more popular company
however, project titan. it was a project made around 2007 from blizzard which was abandon and later made to overwatch.