Ive had my S4U for a little over a month now. Hands down the best resin printer ive ever used. I reported a bug in the screen uv and res calibration and Elegoo sent me a back up screen just in case it happens again. Awesome product and service.
The Saturn 4 Ultra is my first and o my resin printer so I don’t have a good point of comparison, but I love this thing. I still suck at supports and optimizing orientation, but I love the results. And it’s easy.
Your video's made me choose the Saturn 4 Ultra over anything else. I just got it a couple of days ago and I'm in love. I was having so many problems with my Anycubic Mono 6ks that I was getting frustrated and not having fun printing anything. With the Saturn 4 Ultra I've had nothing but great times and amazing prints. This is my go to printer for everything right now and I can't thank you enough for your videos educating me on the world of resin 3D printing.
@@alecks7032 I didn't in the end, I started it but in most localles they sre already sold out, Saturn 3 is EOL so I don't know how many parts will be available and for how long, but it is generally a more relaibale bog standard machine. The 4 ultra has speed t it buyt the plate can be a pain in the ass. But honestly, they are so close, a coin-flip would be a fair way to decide!
I turned an old washing machine cabinet thing for a kitchen into a heated light proof enclosure, I live in a warmer climate and I use a small space heater in there set to 72F and it has increased the stability of my prints immensely
Got the S4U a month or so ago, and received the elegoo heater 2 days ago. was worried about its efficacy based on reviews but its been great so far at keeping a consistent 25 degrees. Only has a variance of about 10 degrees overnight to overcome so mileage may vary in colder climates. Happiest ive been with a resin printer after 4 years of owning various Anycubic models.
Oh interesting. What are your outside temps overnight. Just so I have a point of reference? I can’t test mine in the cold as we are in summer at the mo
@@FauxHammer 10-15 degrees overnight at the moment, I used to skip printing in the winter months as i'd see failures even during the day if it dropped under 20. printer is in a "nearly" fully enclosed storage area under the house.
Been using my S4 ultra since day one release and yet to have any major fails. I had stopped 3D printing for under a year due to pain dialing in resin setting w past printers. This printer got me back in it! Great review of both printers
This has helped me make up my mind, I will be going with the S4U. Mainly for the Tilt vat feature, the Mini Cam (help detect failures faster), and the Wifi. Really the Wifi is a bonus what I'd really like to see is an Ethernet connection where I can connect directly that way. Or maybe there is and I'm just not aware of it? LOL Great Video, thanks again!!
Thank you for the excellent video. TH-cam was made for this. Elegoo makes good printers at a good price but they do a lousy job educating their customers about product features and differences between products. They're definitely relying on someone making a great video like this. Finally upgrading my old dinky MSLA printer for the Saturn 4 Ultra on Black Friday. I'll definitely consider the Elegoo chamber heater and a heated box for the resin bottle.
I'm on my 2nd week of printing on my mars 5 ultra. Already gone thru a kilo of resin. My DnD group is thrilled with the first batch of openLOCK dungeon tiles I printed.
your videos definitely help me to convince myself to upgrade from my Phrozen 4k to Elegoo S4U. Is definitely a big change and now I can print with amazing details. Thanks for making all the amazing reviews. Keep it up!!!
I purchased a Bambu X1 Carbon 1st. Fantastic FDM. Then I bought the Jupiter SE, 2 weeks later, I bought the Mars ultra 5, and today I just got offline and purchased the Saturn Ultra 4....all are fantastic in their own ways.
I’m very happy with the S4U. This is my first resin printer and it has been very easy to use. The only con to this printer is the uneven compression in the first layers because it is “self leveling”. This is only an issue when printing miniature bases flat. Anything with a raft and supports prints flawless.
I bought two saturn 4 ultras, the drip trays are rubbish, so instead I cut out two Silicone mats and then used silicone sealant to attach to the build tray , works a treat any drips go on the silicone skirt as it were and just wipes away, it has not affected the machines tilt function at all . its something Elegoo should have done in the first place I feel. great video btw.
S4U is looking tempting its using the rocker method that we used for our top-down printers instead of having a wiper (anyone scared of the extra resin needed in VAT... add salt water when your on a budget ) , just got to watch the video compare with the GK Two now and decide ... personally I am a top-down fan but needing a bottom-up for mobility
If I were to pick, I'd go for the ultra. As it stands I can't really set the printer in a place with consistent ventilation so I need one that doesn't fart resin fumes as it prints. I'll stick to my D2 DLP, thank you.
When I saw the features of the Saturn 4 Ultra before its release, I thought its price would be over $1,000. Thanks to Elegoo for releasing such a great printer at an awesome price.
A few months before i knew about the S4U I bought an SU3. grabbed the S4U based on features alone. The S4U is a beast and it has been cranking out great prints. The only fails I've had are strictly due to chitubox being buggy af. I tried to set up the s3 to get more prints done and couldn't get a single print to adhere to the plate. Spent hours cleaning my vat, releveling, and trouble shooting. Most trouble ive had from a 3d printer ive run. Back in the box it went. I would sell it and buy a second s4u if I could.
My experience is with the 3 Ultra, but Lychee works flawlessly with the WiFi. Very rarely I'll get an error, but if I just restart Lychee it works on the second try every time, and that only takes a few seconds to restart the program and reload the slice file.
I was going for a m5s pro but after seeing these videos, I think I'd go for a S4U just because I'm a total beginner when it comes to resin, I'm all about letting the machines do the heavy lifting with print quality rather than spend lots of time post processing
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but atm there isn't a wash and cure that fits the s4u yet. FAQ on the xs states you can't use it with plate *For the Saturn 4 series and Jupiter series, you will need to remove the build platform for cleaning, which is different from other compatible models.
@WireHedd glad we're still in time then 😅 Overall it's not a bad set-up, but if you print a lot of bits or multipart regiments it's really practical to be able to hang the full plate in the washer. They keep saying it's in development but if you look at the q&a on the elegoo page... thats been goin on for a while (hoping at least by black friday, having missed summer sales and prime days already lol)
Luckily, my "resin room" is actually super consistent temperature-wise, so in a sense I don't need anything extra. But that changes if I ever move my printers to a different spot, or just moving at all. I actually got the regular Saturn 4 and I'm having a blast with it. This was mostly made due to having a way to print sponsorgift mini's for an event I'm organizing, and it was kind of last minute due to personal circumstances. So I just mostly wanted a good reliable printer that emits the results I want w/o too much fuss. My verdict ultimately, however, is that as someone who's also quite nutty about this kind of tech (and the ability to model and art of course helps with that), I'm very likely to get both, and by extension, use both. Either way, the regular Saturn 4 has already been very kind to me so far.
I'm honestly surprised that it's still priced reasonably for something that brings an improvement to the 24 micron class. Might look at it or the successor after I move to a place with more space for additional printers next spring.
For the $100 difference if I could buy either it definitely would be the Ultra. I agree with the heater and I live in Florida where the temp can and does change 20+/-° in a single day. Once I get back on my feet your channel will definitely be the 1st I join on a monthly basis. Thank you so much for the information and truly unbiased opinions.
Based on your various videos (and some others) on the Saturn 4 Ultra - I'm about to buy one - for me, the speed of printing is the biggest draw over other models, because I usually print during the day (work hours), so if I can turn prints around 3x faster than my Mars 3 Pro, well, I'll be one happy bunny!
I broke my S3U by forgetting to remove a print before starting the next (I did some over night calibrating and forgot about it.... It was rather new still and I was excited). I was hoping to fix the LCD screen but they don't have any in stock. ANYWAYS - I went with the S4U because I love and need the wireless feature. An equally valuable feature to me is the tilt printing! That feature seems incredible to me and I can't wait to test it out!
very informative comparison. both printers seem great and the S4U tilting bed seems to take away half the hassle with calibration but how does that affect printing straight off the build plate and compression issues? The range finder to dial in your resin in my opinion should be a default function nowadays and it takes away so much time in getting exposure settings setup. the biggest thing the puts me of the S4 and S4U (and the mars 5) is that nightmare of a resin trap, the build plate. if i was to consider another elegoo printer (and my 4 MAX has just been fantastic) id go for the Saturn 3. ...A friend who's dressed in leather...
I went with the S4 Ultra and have put a little over 6kg of resin through it and its still going strong. The film looks in great condition still even tho ive been filling the plate on most prints. The only issue ive had twice is the printer freezing mid print. It did prompt me to resume when i power cycled it (have contacted Elegoo) but so far am really enjoying the printer. The split plate isnt too bad to clean if you dont frequently change resins (like some reviewers 🙂) my larger multi part prints have also fit together really well. im not sure if the tilt mechanism is responsible for the good dimensional accuracy but it definitely makes resin calibration MUCH easier (no need to worrt about lift speeds etc).
Another great video once again. I am learning so much and still undecided but in no rush to jump into this hobby. Sign Off was fantastic, I love those friends.
How are people cleaning prints using wash and cure type stations? Most of my prints are sets of very small objects, I can have literally hundreds of an item on a plate, and I always wash them while still attached. The Saturn (original model) plate sits nicely on top of the anycubic wash’n’cure cage. It looks like I wouldn’t be able to do that with the new, self-levelling plate and it’s got me looking for used Saturn 3’s. I’m assuming here that you can’t just use a Saturn 3 plate on the 4 ultra?
iv ran elegoo satrun 2 8k for 2 and half years scince release never once used a heater and i live in yorkshire england and our weathers crazier than a women and my printer has ran for a day at times and no issue from the old myth of you need consistant heat etcc :) but deffo ordering the 4ultra as an upgrade il never steer away from elegoo just want a huge build area so i can do some of my pokemon 1:1 prints
I have 2 S4's that I use almost daily, things are a Beast coming from my Anycubic 6k too. I couldn't justify the extra cost when most of the time I do print while at work or at night for "faster speeds". Havent had a single print faluire either. Roughly 5kg's of resin used between both and still going strong
If the fep breaks, what damage does the machine get with this tilt system? Do you have protection for those cases or is it a sure damage to the screen and electronics?
Love the Placebo line at the end. Ultra for me, when I can justify the upgrade properly. Tbh I'll probably be getting the next iteration but that print speed is enticing
@@FauxHammer I was going to respond with a Placebo quote to put said person down, but then I realised I'd already given them too much effort even considering it. You provide an awesome service, as well as being entertaining, and if someone has a problem with you quoting song lyrics, they might need to chill out. I have a friend who might be holding something that could help...
@@robking6975haha, I nearly suggested that to them too!. To be fair they apologised after I explained the source. But I’m also not here to justify what I choose to do in Amsterdam, Vegas or Chicago. I’m here to talk about printers and splint song lyrics.
I currently have a saturn 3 ultra and a mars 3 , I love both but the wireless on the s3u is so convenient ( i am a wheelchair user so moving from my pc to my printers is a literal pain) so I would always go for a wireless printer. I also use lychee and it supports the 4 ultra and the wifi system works well wit the s3u and i hope it will for the s4u. losing a load of retract settings is great for beginners but i hope the tilt mechanism doesn't wear and become inaccurate. I agree the lack of a seal/gasket seams to be an oversite. As my 2 printers are doing so well I may skip this generation and wait for the s6u with all the minor improvements incorporated.
Yeah WiFi is super handy. And yah I’m also keen to see how the mechanism holds up. Elegoo have said they stress tested it. But I’m taking that with a pinch of salt
I have had 2 issues with my S4U - the Coiled "Phone Cable" behind the lead screen got jammed up and ruined a 12 hour print. And now I have small hairline cracks all over the tempered glass above the LCD. Elegoo was prompt on telling me how to fix the cable issue complete with a PDF, so I assume this is a problem issue. And I can only assume the glass cracking is from the plate pushing against it to "Auto Level". Hope elegoo will get me the replacement glass soon so I can start to print again. At least I have a GK2 as a back up. for now !
Yes Saturn 3 vs 4 please, including the ultra models. Trying to decide between 3 and 4 ultra at the moment. Main influence is price. Not sure if I care about the print speed that much. 🥴
@@FauxHammer after another 24hrs I decided to opt for the S4 ultra! I wanted the resin exposure calibration feature and it’s only $130 more than a Saturn 3. Seems worth the price difference! Thanks for your reviews! I’m just getting back into resin printing after having a lot of fun 5 years ago with the basic anycubic photon. Super excited to return and learn how much advancement in the tech there has been. Cheers!
Something that caught my attention: the saturn 3 ultra has a ball screw. I assumed this would be carried on to the saturn 4 ultra, but it looks like it has not. If you check the specs for the saturn 3 ultra it has 'z axis accuracy' of 0.01, while the saturn 4 ultra only has 'z axis accuracy' of 0.02. I guess this is related to the type of screw used. It doesn't look like this has a major impact on the print quality - the saturn 4 prints look great. But it is interesting to note. The lack of a gasket on the saturn 4 ultra is a concern for me. I recently made the mistake of moving my saturn 3 ultra to a different bench without emptying the vat. I thought i would be able to carry it steadily enough not to spill anything but I was totally wrong and I had a lot of cleanup to do afterwards. With the saturn 3 it was not a disaster as spilled resin won't get inside the unit. On the saturn 4 ultra though, this could have been catastrophic. Sorry to hear that you don't think much of the elegoo mini heater. I was thinking about getting one. I haven't been able to do any printing over winter.
I have run over 200 liters through my Saturn 3 Ultra. Replaced the film 3 times and the screen once. Love it. Is it worth upgrading to the 4 or 4 Ultra, really?
@FauxHammer Appreciate that info. I'm going to hold off for now. Now I wonder if the Phrozen Mega 8K VS is worth twice the cost of the 8K S model... After all, your old videos on the previous Saturn's and how to understand XY resolution versus marketing resolution is why I got it. Also, the content is getting more engaging as time goes on. Thank you for your hard work and exceptional content.
I bought an S4U yesterday and I don't think this video changed my mind however I really appreciate the effort and information put into this video. At the moment, I have a Mono X and Mono 6X and I'm excited for this printer. Pretty excited for the resin calibration stuff because that will save me a lot of time. Has anyone had any problems adding a flex plate to the printer since it auto calibrates? Are there any tips and tricks out there? Thanks!
@@FauxHammer I keep getting the "foreign object found" error with my build plate. Is there a way to fix this? I just do the "mandatory print" option and it works but I would like to not have to do this.
@@FauxHammer No, it's a brand new FEP. I emptied and cleaned the vat and I just installed it yesterday and have only printed 2 things. There is a reddit forum where people have said this is an issue but there isn't any solutions. If I take off the flex plate, the error goes away.
@@Happilymarrieddadright. So yeah. If you’ve added a flex plate. It will sense the flex plate as the obstruction as it is unable to press down as much as it thinks it should be able to..
Thanks for the review. The screen of my saturn 3 ultra just got a big crack as per elegoos warranty the screen only has a warranty of three month so i will buy a new printer. I have a question: Did the Sasturn 4 Ultra still has usb slots for the elegoo air purifier ? I really liked this with the saturn 3 ultra. Thanks in advance for the answer.
It’ll be a minimal difference and it really is gonna be down to personal choices if things like resin and type of model. Most people print presupported stuff anyway. So the point it niche
I have several original mars1, a mars 1 pro and a mars2. I am thinking of upgrading to a larger printer. The Saturn 4 ultra is very tempting, but I think I will wait for the Saturn 5 ultra.....I am guessing they will of added a heater by then, meaning I will be able to print in the cold months. The only pain is I will have to upgrade my wash stations (I use two, one with dirty ipa, the other with clean ipa.....I find this reduces the amount of ipa I use significantly)
Which one you think would be better for a beginner resing printer, Saturn 4 ultra or the uniformation GK2? Thanks for the videos. They are informative and make me wanting to buy a printer.
anycubic photon mono 4k, the 4U is tempting, but the 4 seems solid. any recommendations on good grow tents with vents to use? also, how do you clean the top of the build plate well?? how annoying is it?
No inbuilt heater a drawback? My Saturn 3 Ultra is a goddamn furnace. I had to take the hood off when I first got it because the dome was heating up inside like an oven, but then I needed to place it inside a 3D printer tent for UV and dust protection. However, the tent's air extractor + carbon scrubber was not sufficient to keep temps down, so now it's modified to the point I've got a 4" inline duct fan with digital controller + temperature sensor feeding fresh cold air intake from outside, then blowing the warm & stinky exhaust back out the window. TL;DR Lack of heat is not a concern for me.
Glad you got it… someone else had a go at me for being pro weed! I was just saying an amusing and memorable line from a song. They’re gonna shit next week when I quote down with the Sickness - maybe I’m then pro Covid!
Firstly, thanks so much for this, and so many other incredibly informative vids. I’ve been deep-diving into reviews to find exactly the right 3D resin printer. I finally landed on the Saturn 4 Ultra, and I managed to avoid a few pitfalls along the way because of you. What really did it for me was the extra beginner-friendly features of the ultra so there is less I have to worry about. You’ve made a subscriber out of me, so, thanks again! Secondly, I was hoping you might have some recommendations on resin for a beginner? I was going to get some Wargamer (obviously!) for flexible durability for minis; some Phrozen Onyx Rigid Pro410 for rigid durability for props and tools, containers, or useful bobs; and some Phrozen Aqua 8k for ultra-fine detailed display pieces and busts. Thoughts or suggestions? Thanks!
Don't overlook Sunlu abs-like. It's very inexpensive, the print detail once you get it dialed in is very hard to distinguish from phrozen Hyperfine, and it's serviceable for most stuff you would be using for parts. I haven't used their string or tough resins, but I hear they're really good. Never buy phrozen's normal abs-like resin. It's over priced, miss labeled standard resin. Worst stuff I've used. Their abs-like+ specs are only slightly better than the sunlu abs like for about three times the cost of you wait for one of the regular sunlu sales. If you ever need something indestructible liqcrete. It's crazy expensive, it's crazy long exposure times, and it's crazy to have to grab a pair of snips and worry for the snips to separate the cubes from j3dtech's cubes of calibration. They make pretty much the strongest and most durable stuff you're likely to find.
Ciao , complimenti per i tuoi video, ho avuto fino a un mese fa' la elegoo Mars Pro , ma ora ho bisogno di passare a una stampante con area più grande e sono combattuto tra la Saturn 3 ultra e la Saturn 4 ultra , mi piacerebbe vedere un confronto per capire cosa prendere e uscire da questo limbo. Grazie
How is the build plate handling for a small work area? My saturn 2 has the perfect size to manipulate in a confined area with minimal drips, the saturn 4 build plate looks quite a bit bulkier.
Thanks. Speed is much harder to dial in than just comparing them like that. You need to gradually increase speed in small increments and multiple prints to see a difference, and then do I compare the Saturn 4 with the ACF it comes with or do I swap it fir OFA to maintain quality. I get that would be valuable but it’s beyond the scope of what I have time to do unfortunately
@FauxHammer yeah that's the hard part is time. I think its hard since a lot of claim behind speed of 2x to 3x faster but does that really translate to increase in speed?
@@timstoth4271 forgive me, but have you even watched the video? I’m happy to support people. But you watching the video is kind of the least effort I would kindly request from your side before providing specific advice. Otherwise I’m kinda just repeating myself. Was there a part that was unclear? I’ll be happy to clarify.
@@FauxHammer I've watched both videos plus the latest comparing the two printers quite a few times BUT I wasn't writing every comment down on an A4 pad hence the question
@@timstoth4271 again. Please Forgive me. I did not want to assume but needed to ask. Because I am wondering why you are asking which I would recommend. Because I really depends on you.. if you want a cheap high quality printer. I’d recommend the 4, unless you can find a Staden 3 cheaper. In which case get one of those If you want all the extra features and are willing to pay for them. Get the Ultra. But then you may be after specifics. Which one can do antialiasing better. Which one is faster, which one has WiFi. Perhaps the gap in the side of the ultra will not work for you and is too much risk. So I’d need to know more about you and what you want in order to make a direct recommendation. That’s why I’d asked if you’d watched. I recommend both. But without understanding what you want. I could just as easily recommend neither.
thanks for another great video man! I still love my saturn 3 ultra, was glad to get rid of my m5s (I think it was a lemon, nothing stuck to the build plate, tried everything - but you hear that often. I didn't get the V2 build plate). is the 8ks still the best small printer? I want to get a small one for expensive resins with some swappable vats. (professional resins)
Love your reviews. I have just opened my brand new shiny Saturn 4 Ultra. Touch screen does not work. And it maybe worth noting that the software licence for Chitubox is only valid for 93 days. So be warned. I'm now having to box mine back up as I cannot use it due to the screen not working. Really disappointed. I will update once they have replied to me.
You might as well pay the extra $100 for the speed upgrade of the Ultra vs the Non Ultra due to its Tilting Bed the WiFi is just a Plus at that point. its Only $419 total from elegoo that crazy I paid that for my Mars 3 !
I have a Saturn 4 and love it. Does great prints. The one big let down is the build plate. Whoever designed this thing deserves a kick square in the nuts. It is so hard to clean properly and the handle is not great to hole. Can be very easy to drop. But having said that, I would buy it again,
Still torn between S3U and the S4U. The build plate design of the S4U seems awful and don't see a reason to move away from the 4 screw design considering all the pain it introduces but damn that tilting vat is slick. So yeah either go with a proven S3U or go for the new shiny
Not yet taken the plunge yet - this is the 2nd time lookign at it Main reasons last time I didn;t press the button were Cost v am I going to use it. / Lack of WIFI / temp variations where this would live. reason 1 still there. Woudl I really use it to make $400+ worth it, it would novently wear off!. Really not sure. Reason2 - WIFI / networking - looks like its getting there! (Horray!) #3 Temp - Live in nothern California. Summer get to over 100 F / Winter drops to close to feezing. This is going in the Garage so will experience full variation - A Vat heater would be so benificial. otherwise I have to concoct some sort of heath robinson setup. Esp as its prob winter when I will be using this. Still looks like its getting there and they are finally taking the feature focust off the resolution one up manship. I think if I could ensure a conssitant resin temp it woudl be worth takign the plundge
Just found your channel and will subscribe. Looking into a 3D printer and the saturn 4 ultra is at the top of my list. In terms of ease of use (least failed prints, least tinkering, least hassle possible) is the s4ultra the best option? A friend recommends the GK2 (he has a GK3 but its pricey and out of stock).
HeyGears’s is the least hassle. But that’s super expensive and has more limitations . After that, unless you have a heated room to print in. I’d get something with a heater like a GK2. This is easy. But also has some challenges too if you get one that isn’t level for example Saying that’s it is still a touch easier because fewer settings
ive had my S4U for a few days and getting nothing but failed print after failed print and there's a shit tonne of people on reddit and discord reporting the same thing. My issues have persisted after multiple test increasing exposure times and attempted calibrations.... 😭
It's probably an uneven bed and Elegoo have been shit at explaining this to anyone. Check out Greedy 3d's video on the Mrs 5 Ultra for an idea of how to level it
no need to shout, It's too subjective, I've done it before and i get far too many "yeah but (resin,layer-height,temperature,wait times)" comments to consider even inviting such pointless discourse again.. But please consider the Ultra as about 3x faster than the normal.
Ive had my S4U for a little over a month now. Hands down the best resin printer ive ever used. I reported a bug in the screen uv and res calibration and Elegoo sent me a back up screen just in case it happens again. Awesome product and service.
This is why I eventually went with a Neptune 3 Pro when my Ender started dying. Elegoo’s customer service and support is top.
Oh wow. That’s customer care!
The Saturn 4 Ultra is my first and o my resin printer so I don’t have a good point of comparison, but I love this thing. I still suck at supports and optimizing orientation, but I love the results. And it’s easy.
It may be your first and only. But I agree with your assessment
Your video's made me choose the Saturn 4 Ultra over anything else. I just got it a couple of days ago and I'm in love. I was having so many problems with my Anycubic Mono 6ks that I was getting frustrated and not having fun printing anything. With the Saturn 4 Ultra I've had nothing but great times and amazing prints. This is my go to printer for everything right now and I can't thank you enough for your videos educating me on the world of resin 3D printing.
what we really want is video about Saturn 3 ultra vs Saturn 4 ultra
Ok. Leave it with me
Agreed, that would be a much better comparison!
I think this wo6 e a great comparison s3u v s4u.
@FauxHammer did you get this one done? About to pull the trigger on one of these two and trying to decide which way to go 😰😰
@@alecks7032 I didn't in the end, I started it but in most localles they sre already sold out,
Saturn 3 is EOL so I don't know how many parts will be available and for how long, but it is generally a more relaibale bog standard machine.
The 4 ultra has speed t it buyt the plate can be a pain in the ass.
But honestly, they are so close, a coin-flip would be a fair way to decide!
No matter who loses we both win. I love battles like these.
Thabks
I turned an old washing machine cabinet thing for a kitchen into a heated light proof enclosure, I live in a warmer climate and I use a small space heater in there set to 72F and it has increased the stability of my prints immensely
Perfect thanks for echoing my point
I went straight in for the S4U as my big printer. Blows me away everytime
Nice! It is awesome
I'm going for the Saturn 4 Ultra. Love the tilting vat system, and this will (hopefully) make the printer last for a couple of years
Got the S4U a month or so ago, and received the elegoo heater 2 days ago. was worried about its efficacy based on reviews but its been great so far at keeping a consistent 25 degrees. Only has a variance of about 10 degrees overnight to overcome so mileage may vary in colder climates. Happiest ive been with a resin printer after 4 years of owning various Anycubic models.
Oh interesting. What are your outside temps overnight. Just so I have a point of reference? I can’t test mine in the cold as we are in summer at the mo
@@FauxHammer 10-15 degrees overnight at the moment, I used to skip printing in the winter months as i'd see failures even during the day if it dropped under 20. printer is in a "nearly" fully enclosed storage area under the house.
Been using my S4 ultra since day one release and yet to have any major fails. I had stopped 3D printing for under a year due to pain dialing in resin setting w past printers. This printer got me back in it! Great review of both printers
Thanks for sharing
This has helped me make up my mind, I will be going with the S4U. Mainly for the Tilt vat feature, the Mini Cam (help detect failures faster), and the Wifi. Really the Wifi is a bonus what I'd really like to see is an Ethernet connection where I can connect directly that way. Or maybe there is and I'm just not aware of it? LOL Great Video, thanks again!!
I love my Saturn 4. As a test I ran it out of the box without calibrating or plate levelling and it worked perfectly!
Oh wow!!! Nice
As always, thank you for another great video! Always informative and fun to watch!
Also, I would love to see a Saturn 3 vs 4 video!
Thanks. I’ll try
Thank you for the excellent video. TH-cam was made for this. Elegoo makes good printers at a good price but they do a lousy job educating their customers about product features and differences between products. They're definitely relying on someone making a great video like this. Finally upgrading my old dinky MSLA printer for the Saturn 4 Ultra on Black Friday. I'll definitely consider the Elegoo chamber heater and a heated box for the resin bottle.
I'm on my 2nd week of printing on my mars 5 ultra. Already gone thru a kilo of resin. My DnD group is thrilled with the first batch of openLOCK dungeon tiles I printed.
Oh brilliant. Sounds like you’ll get your moneys worth from that one.
your videos definitely help me to convince myself to upgrade from my Phrozen 4k to Elegoo S4U. Is definitely a big change and now I can print with amazing details. Thanks for making all the amazing reviews. Keep it up!!!
Glad I could help!
I purchased a Bambu X1 Carbon 1st. Fantastic FDM. Then I bought the Jupiter SE, 2 weeks later, I bought the Mars ultra 5, and today I just got offline and purchased the Saturn Ultra 4....all are fantastic in their own ways.
Do a Saturn 3 to 4 comparison if you haven't already let me know if you have and I will go look for it on TH-cam I trust in your advice thank you
I appreciate the detail you bring to your reviews. Thanks!!
Thanks!
yes, want a video about Saturn 3 Ultra vs Saturn 4, actually have the same price, but don't know if the upgrade worth it
with a tank heater, or under screen heater, adjustable exposure support ends and a non double-decker print bed this would be perfect.
Agreed.
I’m very happy with the S4U. This is my first resin printer and it has been very easy to use. The only con to this printer is the uneven compression in the first layers because it is “self leveling”. This is only an issue when printing miniature bases flat. Anything with a raft and supports prints flawless.
Yeah that’s fair. You can level it but Elegoo have done a terrible job of communicating it.
I bought two saturn 4 ultras, the drip trays are rubbish, so instead I cut out two Silicone mats and then used silicone sealant to attach to the build tray , works a treat any drips go on the silicone skirt as it were and just wipes away, it has not affected the machines tilt function at all . its something Elegoo should have done in the first place I feel. great video btw.
Hah. Smart idea. I’d love to see a video if that
Same here!
Same here!
Pics (video) or it didn't happen! :)
S4U is looking tempting its using the rocker method that we used for our top-down printers instead of having a wiper (anyone scared of the extra resin needed in VAT... add salt water when your on a budget ) , just got to watch the video compare with the GK Two now and decide ... personally I am a top-down fan but needing a bottom-up for mobility
If I were to pick, I'd go for the ultra. As it stands I can't really set the printer in a place with consistent ventilation so I need one that doesn't fart resin fumes as it prints. I'll stick to my D2 DLP, thank you.
When I saw the features of the Saturn 4 Ultra before its release, I thought its price would be over $1,000. Thanks to Elegoo for releasing such a great printer at an awesome price.
I know right. They could easily charge more for this!
A few months before i knew about the S4U I bought an SU3. grabbed the S4U based on features alone. The S4U is a beast and it has been cranking out great prints. The only fails I've had are strictly due to chitubox being buggy af. I tried to set up the s3 to get more prints done and couldn't get a single print to adhere to the plate. Spent hours cleaning my vat, releveling, and trouble shooting. Most trouble ive had from a 3d printer ive run. Back in the box it went. I would sell it and buy a second s4u if I could.
I honestly found more use in the old Chitubox rather than the new one
Yes please - Saturn 3 vs 4 review!
My experience is with the 3 Ultra, but Lychee works flawlessly with the WiFi. Very rarely I'll get an error, but if I just restart Lychee it works on the second try every time, and that only takes a few seconds to restart the program and reload the slice file.
I got the ultra. Interestingly, it has a crack on the lid in exactly the same place as your Saturn.
Yeah, a few of them have this.
Could you make a comparison of Saturn 3 Ultra and 4 Ultra? It will be very interesting and useful. Thnx!
I would. But there’s too little point now you can’t get the 3 anymore from most countries
I was going for a m5s pro but after seeing these videos, I think I'd go for a S4U just because I'm a total beginner when it comes to resin, I'm all about letting the machines do the heavy lifting with print quality rather than spend lots of time post processing
The Saturns have sharper prints too! Good call!
Already ordered my S4U with the wash and cure station accessory kit. Excellent video Ross. Thanks dude.
A friend with br++sts and all the rest...
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but atm there isn't a wash and cure that fits the s4u yet. FAQ on the xs states you can't use it with plate
*For the Saturn 4 series and Jupiter series, you will need to remove the build platform for cleaning, which is different from other compatible models.
@@adanhu Well FFS. I guess I better take a look at that order again. Thanks for that.
@WireHedd glad we're still in time then 😅
Overall it's not a bad set-up, but if you print a lot of bits or multipart regiments it's really practical to be able to hang the full plate in the washer.
They keep saying it's in development but if you look at the q&a on the elegoo page... thats been goin on for a while (hoping at least by black friday, having missed summer sales and prime days already lol)
Always appreciate your reviews on these printers Ross! You are my first and last stop before I pull the trigger on a new printer.
Thanks kindly
Luckily, my "resin room" is actually super consistent temperature-wise, so in a sense I don't need anything extra.
But that changes if I ever move my printers to a different spot, or just moving at all.
I actually got the regular Saturn 4 and I'm having a blast with it. This was mostly made due to having a way to print sponsorgift mini's for an event I'm organizing, and it was kind of last minute due to personal circumstances. So I just mostly wanted a good reliable printer that emits the results I want w/o too much fuss.
My verdict ultimately, however, is that as someone who's also quite nutty about this kind of tech (and the ability to model and art of course helps with that), I'm very likely to get both, and by extension, use both. Either way, the regular Saturn 4 has already been very kind to me so far.
I'm honestly surprised that it's still priced reasonably for something that brings an improvement to the 24 micron class. Might look at it or the successor after I move to a place with more space for additional printers next spring.
Yeah the price still shocks me!
I'd be keen to see a Saturn 3 VS Saturn 4 video.
yup 4 ultra is what im getting. thank you so much
For the $100 difference if I could buy either it definitely would be the Ultra. I agree with the heater and I live in Florida where the temp can and does change 20+/-° in a single day. Once I get back on my feet your channel will definitely be the 1st I join on a monthly basis. Thank you so much for the information and truly unbiased opinions.
Thanks. I’m so glad you get it with the heater. I hope that would also help reduce your humidity too?
Based on your various videos (and some others) on the Saturn 4 Ultra - I'm about to buy one - for me, the speed of printing is the biggest draw over other models, because I usually print during the day (work hours), so if I can turn prints around 3x faster than my Mars 3 Pro, well, I'll be one happy bunny!
I broke my S3U by forgetting to remove a print before starting the next (I did some over night calibrating and forgot about it.... It was rather new still and I was excited). I was hoping to fix the LCD screen but they don't have any in stock.
ANYWAYS - I went with the S4U because I love and need the wireless feature. An equally valuable feature to me is the tilt printing! That feature seems incredible to me and I can't wait to test it out!
very informative comparison. both printers seem great and the S4U tilting bed seems to take away half the hassle with calibration but how does that affect printing straight off the build plate and compression issues?
The range finder to dial in your resin in my opinion should be a default function nowadays and it takes away so much time in getting exposure settings setup. the biggest thing the puts me of the S4 and S4U (and the mars 5) is that nightmare of a resin trap, the build plate. if i was to consider another elegoo printer (and my 4 MAX has just been fantastic) id go for the Saturn 3.
...A friend who's dressed in leather...
I went with the S4 Ultra and have put a little over 6kg of resin through it and its still going strong. The film looks in great condition still even tho ive been filling the plate on most prints. The only issue ive had twice is the printer freezing mid print. It did prompt me to resume when i power cycled it (have contacted Elegoo) but so far am really enjoying the printer.
The split plate isnt too bad to clean if you dont frequently change resins (like some reviewers 🙂) my larger multi part prints have also fit together really well. im not sure if the tilt mechanism is responsible for the good dimensional accuracy but it definitely makes resin calibration MUCH easier (no need to worrt about lift speeds etc).
Glad you’re having a great time with it!
I have the Saturn 1 and 2, but I'm really tempted by the 4 ultra.
It is a lovely printer
Another great video once again. I am learning so much and still undecided but in no rush to jump into this hobby. Sign Off was fantastic, I love those friends.
Thanks so much!!!
Does fitting the heater mean you can't then use that port for fume extraction? Looks like it is either/or.
How are people cleaning prints using wash and cure type stations? Most of my prints are sets of very small objects, I can have literally hundreds of an item on a plate, and I always wash them while still attached. The Saturn (original model) plate sits nicely on top of the anycubic wash’n’cure cage. It looks like I wouldn’t be able to do that with the new, self-levelling plate and it’s got me looking for used Saturn 3’s. I’m assuming here that you can’t just use a Saturn 3 plate on the 4 ultra?
to fix my issue with the USB port on the back, I use a USB extension cable and run it to the front
Already bought mine. They have a handful of used units on eBay at a great price considering they’re basically brand new 🙌
Oh brilliant!!! Good find!
iv ran elegoo satrun 2 8k for 2 and half years scince release never once used a heater and i live in yorkshire england and our weathers crazier than a women and my printer has ran for a day at times and no issue from the old myth of you need consistant heat etcc :) but deffo ordering the 4ultra as an upgrade il never steer away from elegoo just want a huge build area so i can do some of my pokemon 1:1 prints
Cool comparison bro. Great vid. Yes, you should do a Saturn 3 ultra vs the 4 ultra, Why not ?
Thanks. Because I could maybe do a different video in that time that has more value to more people
I'm not likely to be getting a resin printer anytime soon, but if I did, I feel like I would go for the ultra of these two
Thanks, really appreciate your view.
I have 2 S4's that I use almost daily, things are a Beast coming from my Anycubic 6k too. I couldn't justify the extra cost when most of the time I do print while at work or at night for "faster speeds". Havent had a single print faluire either. Roughly 5kg's of resin used between both and still going strong
Nice and smart decisions made if that’s your print schedule
If the fep breaks, what damage does the machine get with this tilt system? Do you have protection for those cases or is it a sure damage to the screen and electronics?
If light goes off mean to say current goes off n come back.the printer start from 1st layer or continues to print.
Saturn 4
Great vid. I have an S4U and it's awesome. Glad to see you're feeling better 🙂
Lol, this was filmed before I went away... Still feel awful over a week later
@@FauxHammer Sorry mate, hope you start to feel better soon!
Love the Placebo line at the end. Ultra for me, when I can justify the upgrade properly. Tbh I'll probably be getting the next iteration but that print speed is enticing
Glad you liked it. Someone else had a go at me for being pro weed.
Just a line in a song mate… chill
@@FauxHammer I was going to respond with a Placebo quote to put said person down, but then I realised I'd already given them too much effort even considering it.
You provide an awesome service, as well as being entertaining, and if someone has a problem with you quoting song lyrics, they might need to chill out. I have a friend who might be holding something that could help...
@@robking6975haha, I nearly suggested that to them too!. To be fair they apologised after I explained the source.
But I’m also not here to justify what I choose to do in Amsterdam, Vegas or Chicago.
I’m here to talk about printers and splint song lyrics.
I currently have a saturn 3 ultra and a mars 3 , I love both but the wireless on the s3u is so convenient ( i am a wheelchair user so moving from my pc to my printers is a literal pain) so I would always go for a wireless printer. I also use lychee and it supports the 4 ultra and the wifi system works well wit the s3u and i hope it will for the s4u.
losing a load of retract settings is great for beginners but i hope the tilt mechanism doesn't wear and become inaccurate. I agree the lack of a seal/gasket seams to be an oversite. As my 2 printers are doing so well I may skip this generation and wait for the s6u with all the minor improvements incorporated.
Yeah WiFi is super handy. And yah I’m also keen to see how the mechanism holds up. Elegoo have said they stress tested it. But I’m taking that with a pinch of salt
Does the Ultra allow for a screen protector in case of a leak? Is that something you worry about?
So what is the layer height you select to print those minis?
I have had 2 issues with my S4U - the Coiled "Phone Cable" behind the lead screen got jammed up and ruined a 12 hour print. And now I have small hairline cracks all over the tempered glass above the LCD. Elegoo was prompt on telling me how to fix the cable issue complete with a PDF, so I assume this is a problem issue. And I can only assume the glass cracking is from the plate pushing against it to "Auto Level". Hope elegoo will get me the replacement glass soon so I can start to print again. At least I have a GK2 as a back up. for now !
Which printer you like more? I’m between the S4U and the GK2. Thanks
Yes Saturn 3 vs 4 please, including the ultra models. Trying to decide between 3 and 4 ultra at the moment. Main influence is price. Not sure if I care about the print speed that much. 🥴
If you don’t care about speed. Get a 3 or a 4 normal. Whatever is cheaper.
@@FauxHammer after another 24hrs I decided to opt for the S4 ultra! I wanted the resin exposure calibration feature and it’s only $130 more than a Saturn 3. Seems worth the price difference! Thanks for your reviews! I’m just getting back into resin printing after having a lot of fun 5 years ago with the basic anycubic photon. Super excited to return and learn how much advancement in the tech there has been. Cheers!
@@austinboudreaux7937it’s well worth the difference to be honest
Something that caught my attention: the saturn 3 ultra has a ball screw. I assumed this would be carried on to the saturn 4 ultra, but it looks like it has not. If you check the specs for the saturn 3 ultra it has 'z axis accuracy' of 0.01, while the saturn 4 ultra only has 'z axis accuracy' of 0.02. I guess this is related to the type of screw used. It doesn't look like this has a major impact on the print quality - the saturn 4 prints look great. But it is interesting to note.
The lack of a gasket on the saturn 4 ultra is a concern for me. I recently made the mistake of moving my saturn 3 ultra to a different bench without emptying the vat. I thought i would be able to carry it steadily enough not to spill anything but I was totally wrong and I had a lot of cleanup to do afterwards. With the saturn 3 it was not a disaster as spilled resin won't get inside the unit. On the saturn 4 ultra though, this could have been catastrophic.
Sorry to hear that you don't think much of the elegoo mini heater. I was thinking about getting one. I haven't been able to do any printing over winter.
Honestly, I feel most of these specs are made up. Due to lack of pressure compensation. I have no idea how they would even calibrate this.
Is this printer still relevant and worth buying today? Or are there better options in the market now within the same budget?
Used a USB extension cable with my Saturn 2 for ages to avoid the frustration of reaching around the side... but seriously come on Elegoo.
I have run over 200 liters through my Saturn 3 Ultra. Replaced the film 3 times and the screen once. Love it. Is it worth upgrading to the 4 or 4 Ultra, really?
Ummm. You get a great speed bump from the 4 ultra. But otherwise they are mostly the same.
@FauxHammer Appreciate that info. I'm going to hold off for now. Now I wonder if the Phrozen Mega 8K VS is worth twice the cost of the 8K S model...
After all, your old videos on the previous Saturn's and how to understand XY resolution versus marketing resolution is why I got it. Also, the content is getting more engaging as time goes on. Thank you for your hard work and exceptional content.
@@All8ToTheHilt well it’s more than twice as big. But you loose a bit of detail. So it depends what you need in terms of print quality and size
@@FauxHammer Detail is important. Want a bigger build plate for resin printing than Elegoo and most others offer.
I bought an S4U yesterday and I don't think this video changed my mind however I really appreciate the effort and information put into this video. At the moment, I have a Mono X and Mono 6X and I'm excited for this printer. Pretty excited for the resin calibration stuff because that will save me a lot of time. Has anyone had any problems adding a flex plate to the printer since it auto calibrates? Are there any tips and tricks out there? Thanks!
Oh this will be a lovely speed upgrade for you.
@@FauxHammer I keep getting the "foreign object found" error with my build plate. Is there a way to fix this? I just do the "mandatory print" option and it works but I would like to not have to do this.
It must be detecting something. Maybe even a small crease in your fep
@@FauxHammer No, it's a brand new FEP. I emptied and cleaned the vat and I just installed it yesterday and have only printed 2 things. There is a reddit forum where people have said this is an issue but there isn't any solutions. If I take off the flex plate, the error goes away.
@@Happilymarrieddadright. So yeah. If you’ve added a flex plate. It will sense the flex plate as the obstruction as it is unable to press down as much as it thinks it should be able to..
Thanks for the review. The screen of my saturn 3 ultra just got a big crack as per elegoos warranty the screen only has a warranty of three month so i will buy a new printer. I have a question: Did the Sasturn 4 Ultra still has usb slots for the elegoo air purifier ? I really liked this with the saturn 3 ultra. Thanks in advance for the answer.
I’d like to see how much smaller supports can be made using the tilt vat in the Ultra vs. the standard Saturn 4
It’ll be a minimal difference and it really is gonna be down to personal choices if things like resin and type of model.
Most people print presupported stuff anyway. So the point it niche
I have several original mars1, a mars 1 pro and a mars2. I am thinking of upgrading to a larger printer. The Saturn 4 ultra is very tempting, but I think I will wait for the Saturn 5 ultra.....I am guessing they will of added a heater by then, meaning I will be able to print in the cold months. The only pain is I will have to upgrade my wash stations (I use two, one with dirty ipa, the other with clean ipa.....I find this reduces the amount of ipa I use significantly)
Most admit, I’m excited to see what the Saturn 4 does
Which one you think would be better for a beginner resing printer, Saturn 4 ultra or the uniformation GK2? Thanks for the videos. They are informative and make me wanting to buy a printer.
I would get the gk2
Ultra as there are less settings.
But the gktwo if you can’t keep your room temp consistent.
@@ibrahimkesici9780 thanks
@@FauxHammer thanks for the suggestion. Appreciate it.
Got the Ultra, luv it, also trust your videos, a lot
Great to hear! Thanks
Watching just to get some confirmation bias.
I just wish I could get the green cover for the ultra, it looks so much cooler in my opinion
Yeah I agree
anycubic photon mono 4k, the 4U is tempting, but the 4 seems solid. any recommendations on good grow tents with vents to use? also, how do you clean the top of the build plate well?? how annoying is it?
So if you add a heater to the new Elegoo Saturn 4 and 4 ultra. Should you even spend the money on a Gk2?
Yes. Heating the train from below is a much more efficient and consistent way to heat it.
No inbuilt heater a drawback? My Saturn 3 Ultra is a goddamn furnace. I had to take the hood off when I first got it because the dome was heating up inside like an oven, but then I needed to place it inside a 3D printer tent for UV and dust protection. However, the tent's air extractor + carbon scrubber was not sufficient to keep temps down, so now it's modified to the point I've got a 4" inline duct fan with digital controller + temperature sensor feeding fresh cold air intake from outside, then blowing the warm & stinky exhaust back out the window.
TL;DR Lack of heat is not a concern for me.
Nice "Pure Morning" by Placebo reference at the end there.
Glad you got it… someone else had a go at me for being pro weed!
I was just saying an amusing and memorable line from a song.
They’re gonna shit next week when I quote down with the Sickness - maybe I’m then pro Covid!
Firstly, thanks so much for this, and so many other incredibly informative vids. I’ve been deep-diving into reviews to find exactly the right 3D resin printer. I finally landed on the Saturn 4 Ultra, and I managed to avoid a few pitfalls along the way because of you. What really did it for me was the extra beginner-friendly features of the ultra so there is less I have to worry about. You’ve made a subscriber out of me, so, thanks again!
Secondly, I was hoping you might have some recommendations on resin for a beginner? I was going to get some Wargamer (obviously!) for flexible durability for minis; some Phrozen Onyx Rigid Pro410 for rigid durability for props and tools, containers, or useful bobs; and some Phrozen Aqua 8k for ultra-fine detailed display pieces and busts. Thoughts or suggestions? Thanks!
thanks so much!!!
Don't overlook Sunlu abs-like. It's very inexpensive, the print detail once you get it dialed in is very hard to distinguish from phrozen Hyperfine, and it's serviceable for most stuff you would be using for parts. I haven't used their string or tough resins, but I hear they're really good.
Never buy phrozen's normal abs-like resin. It's over priced, miss labeled standard resin. Worst stuff I've used. Their abs-like+ specs are only slightly better than the sunlu abs like for about three times the cost of you wait for one of the regular sunlu sales.
If you ever need something indestructible liqcrete. It's crazy expensive, it's crazy long exposure times, and it's crazy to have to grab a pair of snips and worry for the snips to separate the cubes from j3dtech's cubes of calibration. They make pretty much the strongest and most durable stuff you're likely to find.
Great video. Any insight on printing flexibles with the ultra?
I’ve not really tried it to be honest.
How about Saturn 3 Ultra vs Saturn 4 (non-ultra).
Ciao , complimenti per i tuoi video, ho avuto fino a un mese fa' la elegoo Mars Pro , ma ora ho bisogno di passare a una stampante con area più grande e sono combattuto tra la Saturn 3 ultra e la Saturn 4 ultra , mi piacerebbe vedere un confronto per capire cosa prendere e uscire da questo limbo. Grazie
Спасибо за обзор!
How is the build plate handling for a small work area? My saturn 2 has the perfect size to manipulate in a confined area with minimal drips, the saturn 4 build plate looks quite a bit bulkier.
It’s the same size plate In terms of area just the extra height adds to it and the drips can be annoying
Please please do a Saturn 3 Vs Saturn 4 (standard, not ultra) review. Would really love to see your thoughts.
I’ll try
yes for 3 vs 4 ultra
I'd really love to see a S3U vs S4 vs S4U. Same resin, same models, same layer count (to compare speed). Really need to see this 😊😂
Thanks. Speed is much harder to dial in than just comparing them like that. You need to gradually increase speed in small increments and multiple prints to see a difference, and then do I compare the Saturn 4 with the ACF it comes with or do I swap it fir OFA to maintain quality.
I get that would be valuable but it’s beyond the scope of what I have time to do unfortunately
@FauxHammer yeah that's the hard part is time. I think its hard since a lot of claim behind speed of 2x to 3x faster but does that really translate to increase in speed?
Am I correct thinking the only difference is the tilting tank & camera.?
Kind of, but no. the Operating system is different too which adds a couple extra features, also wifi.
@@FauxHammer As you've tested both which would you recommend...?
@@timstoth4271 forgive me, but have you even watched the video?
I’m happy to support people. But you watching the video is kind of the least effort I would kindly request from your side before providing specific advice. Otherwise I’m kinda just repeating myself.
Was there a part that was unclear? I’ll be happy to clarify.
@@FauxHammer I've watched both videos plus the latest comparing the two printers quite a few times BUT I wasn't writing every comment down on an A4 pad hence the question
@@timstoth4271 again. Please Forgive me. I did not want to assume but needed to ask. Because I am wondering why you are asking which I would recommend.
Because I really depends on you.. if you want a cheap high quality printer. I’d recommend the 4, unless you can find a Staden 3 cheaper. In which case get one of those
If you want all the extra features and are willing to pay for them. Get the Ultra.
But then you may be after specifics. Which one can do antialiasing better. Which one is faster, which one has WiFi. Perhaps the gap in the side of the ultra will not work for you and is too much risk.
So I’d need to know more about you and what you want in order to make a direct recommendation.
That’s why I’d asked if you’d watched. I recommend both. But without understanding what you want. I could just as easily recommend neither.
I just received Saturn 4 ultra 2 days ago. Amazing printer but the build plate design waste about 50% of the resin 😢
Yeah that design is bad in a few ways
thanks for another great video man!
I still love my saturn 3 ultra, was glad to get rid of my m5s (I think it was a lemon, nothing stuck to the build plate, tried everything - but you hear that often. I didn't get the V2 build plate).
is the 8ks still the best small printer? I want to get a small one for expensive resins with some swappable vats. (professional resins)
Yeah the 8ks is still the best small one IMo. But you’d be better off with a 10” printer of equal quality. Which is almost anything but an Anycubic.
Love your reviews. I have just opened my brand new shiny Saturn 4 Ultra. Touch screen does not work. And it maybe worth noting that the software licence for Chitubox is only valid for 93 days.
So be warned. I'm now having to box mine back up as I cannot use it due to the screen not working. Really disappointed.
I will update once they have replied to me.
You might as well pay the extra $100 for the speed upgrade of the Ultra vs the Non Ultra due to its Tilting Bed the WiFi is just a Plus at that point. its Only $419 total from elegoo that crazy I paid that for my Mars 3 !
100% agree
I have a Saturn 4 and love it. Does great prints. The one big let down is the build plate. Whoever designed this thing deserves a kick square in the nuts. It is so hard to clean properly and the handle is not great to hole. Can be very easy to drop. But having said that, I would buy it again,
Yeah I cannot disagree with you. It’s one if the best printers ever. But this is pretty dumb shit.
Great review, would you recommend Saturn 4 Ultra or Uniformation gk3?
Both completely different printers. I’d recommend both for different reasons.
Still torn between S3U and the S4U. The build plate design of the S4U seems awful and don't see a reason to move away from the 4 screw design considering all the pain it introduces but damn that tilting vat is slick.
So yeah either go with a proven S3U or go for the new shiny
I prefer new shiny. That speed is great for me.
Not yet taken the plunge yet - this is the 2nd time lookign at it Main reasons last time I didn;t press the button were Cost v am I going to use it. / Lack of WIFI / temp variations where this would live.
reason 1 still there. Woudl I really use it to make $400+ worth it, it would novently wear off!. Really not sure.
Reason2 - WIFI / networking - looks like its getting there! (Horray!)
#3 Temp - Live in nothern California. Summer get to over 100 F / Winter drops to close to feezing. This is going in the Garage so will experience full variation - A Vat heater would be so benificial. otherwise I have to concoct some sort of heath robinson setup. Esp as its prob winter when I will be using this.
Still looks like its getting there and they are finally taking the feature focust off the resolution one up manship. I think if I could ensure a conssitant resin temp it woudl be worth takign the plundge
Just found your channel and will subscribe. Looking into a 3D printer and the saturn 4 ultra is at the top of my list. In terms of ease of use (least failed prints, least tinkering, least hassle possible) is the s4ultra the best option? A friend recommends the GK2 (he has a GK3 but its pricey and out of stock).
HeyGears’s is the least hassle. But that’s super expensive and has more limitations .
After that, unless you have a heated room to print in. I’d get something with a heater like a GK2.
This is easy. But also has some challenges too if you get one that isn’t level for example
Saying that’s it is still a touch easier because fewer settings
if print scale 1/64..is't good to have S4U?
pardon?
@@FauxHammer i want to buy S4U..and print scale 1/64..so it is good or not?
or should buy M5U?
ive had my S4U for a few days and getting nothing but failed print after failed print and there's a shit tonne of people on reddit and discord reporting the same thing. My issues have persisted after multiple test increasing exposure times and attempted calibrations.... 😭
It's probably an uneven bed and Elegoo have been shit at explaining this to anyone. Check out Greedy 3d's video on the Mrs 5 Ultra for an idea of how to level it
WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO SEE A SPEED COMPARISON.
no need to shout,
It's too subjective, I've done it before and i get far too many "yeah but (resin,layer-height,temperature,wait times)" comments to consider even inviting such pointless discourse again.. But please consider the Ultra as about 3x faster than the normal.