side note: why is it the person who talks smack is always the one getting carried. Everytime I have someone write "ggez" on my team, they're the one with 10 kills and 30 deaths.
Because they are compensating for their insecurity. It's like how in all of those kids cartoons movies the little guy is the boss with tall henchmen lol but running their mouth. Same thing but different complex.
I wonder the same. One time I had an enemy DPS that said "ez" after winning (I think my team lost 2-3 on flashpoint) and they were playing junkrat while getting carried by their team.
i do this sometimes,its not insecurity its just that the enemy team usually has a stupid and annoying team comp to fight and i want to piss them off knowing that the worst person on the team said it was easy
I love when toxis enemies get karma. Last night i had a soldier ult and kill all of us during overtime on the payload. He tbagged and started talking mad shit about team diff and how we need to uninstall. We came back and held them from capping the first point. He was talking crap to his whole team by the end and trying to cope saying he will have POTG. Our tank got POTG and they killed soldier with a remech of all things. That match felt so good
To the twitch chatter who asked "how do you crap talk on console" here's your answer.... you don't. You go AFK in hopes your team are playing good enough to make it seem you're not throwing
Remember Moira's primary fire lingers to heal 51 over 3 seconds, so sometimes just tapping a teammate is enough! And I'd say try to stay above half on healing resources, so you'll always have emergency heals.
You can hear the Macaroni Gloves whenever she moves her hands. So Melee, Primary and Secondary Fire. But only when she puts her hands out and back in. Shit killed me when I heard it and Emongg was like “You hear that melee?” 😂
The amount of times they healed full health teammates had me stressing so bad, especially at the end when they had an Illari healing pylon right next to them all which would take care of any poke damage. Their positioning too was just so... so many times they were standing in the middle of the open to get an elim or heal, they're lucky they didnt get punished more for it. The flank plays were great though, I do that on support too when DPS are struggling to push I go "fine, Ill do it myself" hahah overall not too bad!
i think its a clear example of a player who doesnt know the character and who has no plans or ideas about what to do. They are just kind of meandering back and forth aimlessly spraying and throwing orbs, not sure of where to commit or where to go to press the attack. Literally the only time this player seemed to have any clear objective was when they were rolling and they dove in. Outside of that it was them looking around for someone else to give them direction.
A bit of Zen advice: I saw you mainly putting your healing orb on your tank and leaving it there, maybe swapping it to someone else if they got low. But Zen's healing is pretty weak, it's better used proactively, and especially on squishy allies. Just as you want to discord enemies that are about to get focused by your team, you want to put your healing orb on allies who are about to make a play. A flanking DPS, your other support who just got dove, etc. Tank can be fine when there aren't better targets, but 30hp/s is barely going to make any difference for a 600+hp tank, whereas for a 250hp hero it might keep them alive, and if they get forced into cover it'll also help get them back into the fight more quickly.
@@jrpgnation6375 It's not really something you'd see having a major effect like an Ana nade or whatever, but it does make a difference. For example, a Cass landing body shots in range will land two shots a second, 70hp each. On a 250hp target, that's four shots to kill, with a time-to-kill of 1.5 seconds (starting the moment the first shot lands). Put a harmony orb on that same target, and now it's a minimum of five shots over two seconds to kill -- possibly more, if he misses any of his shots, or if his target manages to break LOS for a second or two. And if he happened to not have a full clip when he entered the duel, now he's going to have to reload before he gets the kill, which gives another 45hp of healing to his target for free, etc. As Zen your main role is to dish out and amplify damage, but harmony orb allows you to also nudge the odds of certain engagements, whereas letting it sit on your tank will only really get you a trickle of ult charge.
especially leaving it on the tank a majority of the game. you're taking ult charge away from your other support at that point. tanks take the big damage that high healing supports are more equipped to deal with, zen orb is perfect for slippery heroes or just healing chip damage on your mid-range dps so your other support can focus on pumping the tank with healing. i love having zen as my teammate if he understands this concept because i'll get nano or rush super fast when there's one dps i can put out of my mind for the most part
As someone who has played Zen since he had less than 200HP... I agree with this in the context of this match and this player. But, it's all about those decisions with context. If I have a Widow and an Ashe sitting with me in the backline, in safety, and my Doomfist is fucking shit up in the distance, unless the dps need it cause they're getting dove on, Fist is getting that orb.
Huge piece of advice, stop using your fade to go in. It’s an escape ability. Your burning you fade on cool down and it’s literally the opposite of what it should be used for.
Had a chat where enemy team won one round and went “ez” and then when we won the next we went “ez” back and they said “ur about to regret that” and then they lost and immediately left before anyone could flame him
Reminded me the other week when I played comp as support. I’m usually a Zen main but my fellow support saw me and immediately typed “zen????” and wanting me to switch immediately. We got rolled too fast and not wanting to deal with constant hate as a Zen, swap to Moira yet the support still keep flaming me, even saying “My co healer is trash” in the team chat within the first 2 minutes! Had to concentrate really hard to show them whose the superior support and I carried very hard to the point I had the better scoreboard on healing, damage, elimination, and less deaths, and the other support got pretty quiet. Usually not prideful guy, but I saw this as an opportunity to repeat “my co healer is trash” but in the match chat for everyone to see. I bet the other team think I’m being a bully to the enemy Juno trying to do their best than the person who was being toxic to me like crazy.
If the comp requires a main healer, then Zen ain't the choice. But Zen is so top tier in ranked comps. The discord orb is too good not to have on your team
so many spots on this map are good for bouncing and orb back and forth for perpetual healing. You want to rank up as moira you HAVE to do that instinctively.
i don’t like to hate my fellow mercy players but what was girlie trash talking for like i saw her be so out of position in the worst spots for a mercy here like what
@@dash4800 i do lul but a dmg orb only does so much thats why you fade in throw dmg orb and moiras dmg take 3 seconds to kill her the fade back to your team and you should have your orbs back when you fade back ez if you have another good support on your team
I made this comment a few times already, but I want to say it again. You‘re not going to learn a hero if you immediately swap just because the enemy has a slight advantage over your pick. This is just gold, it’s not that serious. Just practice the hero that you like, watch someone higher ranked how they play this hero and take notes. And you will never learn anything useful on Moira
youve said this comment a few times already get the hint no one cares its all opinion based. people learn cognitively different whatever works for u might not work for someone else dawg
1. never fade to engage, even if its to chase one kill. you never know if theres that one genji holding blade, waiting for you to waste fade and it can lead to a team wipe and eventual loss. fade is such a useful escape, dont waste it when you can just as easily walk 2. if you cant learn to manage resources, learn to use healing orbs effectively. a more difficult play style, but still viable once perfected 3. congrats on the win against toxic AH's, im sure it felt great
the biggest thing with moira resource is not to overuse it when you don't have to. her heal gives an over time effect, so out of combat you really only need a tiny bit of resource meter to heal someone to full. you just have to be patient
Hot take but moira is the reyna of overwatch. Her entire kit is very conducive to bad habits and unhelpful behaviors for a support with a knifes edge of useful vs feeding. The only reason people get so far with her is because no one is good at dealing with moira at lower elos
Also you don’t need a constant spray to heal, you tap the heal button and the teammates health will come back. Conserve your resources more when you’re not in the middle of a team fight. Team fights I spray. But not for a quick top off, burning way too much healing for no reason as emongg stated.
When I swap with a full ult the reasoning behind it is that after the ult I will not get any value past that. I feel I'm better off pulling another character that I will get better overall value out of over the one ult and be stuck not contributing as much as I might could.
Things you need to know: Moira heal is a hot (heal over time) just press heal one time and wait a few secs 2 or 3 before hit again. Better Ressource Management, better useable
I def feel like in the last two games, this was a classic case of, I don't trust my other support to keep heals up on my team. They kept healing basically full team mates when there was a pylon right next to them. Fun game to watch though!
Console is just a slower paced game imo. Everything isn't as frantic. The feeling is much nicer is many ways. You can see how Xim users are as bad as hackers.
I swear whoever talks shit first loses, especially if you shit on a whole team the next round they are two ranks higher, I've seen plat widows turn into top 500 spawn trappers after one too many messages
Hey, I recently picked up ow as a new shooter and found myself maining bastion since I believe I have rather good tracking. But I’m struggling to win couple of my ranked games and it feels like that in a lot of games my team asserts absolutely no pressure because in a lot of cases all 5 enemies just use everything on me and my team gets nothing out of it. I do find myself out of position from time to time especially because I’m really bad in terms of ult tracking. I’m open for advice to improve positioning, ult tracking and also own ult usage on bastion since his ult seems really weak to me like I do get area control with it, which is pretty good but rarely get kills and I’m uncertain whether I should get kills with it
10:42 that rein said no it be like that sometimes next time if they got a rein turn corners with fade lose los so he can't charge into you when you don't have it 11:25 hear hammer use fade if you don't use fade and you didn't die use fade there is no reason to ever not use fade to save yourself
Watching people play Moira and just... holding down their heals for so long wasting resource bothers me. I figured by now it should be general knowledge that just tapping it will cause a Heal over time on allies so you don't have to waste so much... It's crazy.
It was frustrating watching them heal full health targets for sure something to work on but decent ideas for plays, could make a really good player one day =)
I agree with the heal thing. Sending damage orb on cd. There’s times for both but there’s never a time to only use dmg orb. Heal orb helps more in many situations especially on close fights like 3rd point. And then they heal orb themselves and not their team 🤣
Something that im shocked that i dont see more is talk about the toxicity of the players at this point. Id argue that overwatch players are approaching the toxicity of league which is saying something. Ive played both and i like support in OW and jungle in league which are both the most flammed positions (arguably tank in OW) Note i never played enough to get into ranked (league) so that accounts for some of it. But i get flammed more on QP support of OW then i do jungling in what is known as the most toxic community.
This reminds me of the Toxic Four Man Squad I was playing with on Unranked. I was playing my Junkrat with the JunkFood Skin. Note: I had 24 kills and 4 deaths, and the Tank Doomfist had 19 kills and 8 deaths. Since I was going for kills and not protecting the Mercy and Kiriko, it's my fault we lost in their POV. Just to clarify, I kept killing their Reaper and Zenyatta constantly. And both only got to use their Ults once each. The Enemy Team had a Reinhardt, Lucio, and Sombra most of the time. Sombra killed me three times, and the Reaper killed me once. I told Doomfist to swap to a character that has better defence (Told him in count Six Times) Now for the final thing. I got POTG. It was a Three Man kill with Riptire and a final kill on Zenyatta after he used his Ult. We still lost to a Sombra - Reinhardt - Reaper Ult Combination. After we lost they told me I was awful and shouldn't deserve POTG. And told me "EAT THAT JUNKFOOD SKIN FATTY" Now is this my Fault for not helping out our Supports?
Now I'm not the one to talk but they crap talking you while you did more than your tank who refused to swap to other hero is kinda unreasonable plus it was unranked, so why grt so toxic over something that doesn't matter to your rank? And I myself had a toxic teammates who was playing kiriko and it was one of my worst matches as Genji and they told me to swap to junkrat and after we won and I got POTG as junkrat that kiriko told me to never play genji again which kinda hurt, I could've just had a single bad match dude and you and our other support were mainly healing tank when I was spamming "I need healing" while hiding and on low HP but know I just suck as Genji. But I think depending on your supports and how they were positioned had to factor on how much they got attacked by their team so I would say that it's two sided but then again what do I know? My season high rank on DPS is silver 4 and I was before falling down to solver 4, a silver 2 support on lifeweaver so idk what I'm talking about
i mean, that moira play was pretty much a bot. As a moira main that was destroying my soul. Just basic stuff like wasting healing, not knowing the range of your abilities, and not healing people right in front of you. They basically got beat by a complete moira noob.
I wish they would treat Morias like how old sym was. Her primary fire use to be like hers and I absolutely dispise, loath her having a lock on primary. Why do they keep it like that I do not understand it.
@@duskzer0816how about opening your mouth you learn how to spell before being a prick. Also no I'm a support player. Any other stupid shit you wanna say?
dude, moiras dmg/s is one of the lowest in the game. 65 dmg per second, 115 if you get a dmg orb to stay perfectly on someone for an entire second. Thats insanely trash. Plus a pretty limited range on it as well. If moira didnt have lock on aim she would basically do nothing and would have no utility at all.
watching the twitch chat complaining this person is damaging too much is destroying my braincells tiktok takes have destroyed any shred of gamesense metal rank players have in this game
Someone who has like 200 hours as moira, they are completely wasting their resources and looking lost the entire game. Spray heals in segments since after you stop spraying they still get healed for a little bit and the more damage you do the faster your resources generate. Also needs to use more healing orbs and throw them at the walls where it can bounce off another wall and pin ball pretty much. Stop fading for no reason, only use fade to get out of the fight to cover and heal. If in a 1v1 don’t damage orb, use your heals that should give you enough time to either get another orb or have your fade to get out then by the time the enemy catches back up to you, you will have your orb again.
the only time i call a player a bot is when the person is walking into walls an ignoring combat an looking at the wall. other then that i don't call a player a bot unless it actually do act it. this dont look as a bot to me. I get talking shit cause its fun but it has to be somewhat accurate.
tanks that just walk forward into the enemy team and get melted over and over again without stopping or taking cover or anything. Those I will always call out as bots. Usually maugas or Orisas. No way a human brain can be that dumb.
ok that moira wasnt that good. i see many people dont understand geometry or dont even think of it when using orb. many times you can use geometry to get SO much more value of your orbs. also many times i see people dont use healing orb when it would be 100000x better than a dmg orb that gets 50 dmg done and then floats into oblivion. also you get super jump off her movement ability so you they could easily get up many higher grounds. moira is quite mobile if you dont overexted stupidly and rush into enemy team in a 2v5 and have to survive 6 seconds which you 100% wont
its pretty much impossible to be out of heals as much as they are, the gimik of spamming dmg and using your dng orb to get heals back in like 3 seconds, they don't even do, they just waste heals and wait for it to rise. and the wide peaking was scary.
just off the jump, stop charging every zen shot. You spend time charging then miss and its more time you arent actually doing any damage. Just shoot normally and adjust each shot to max out your damage. Only charge when you are waiting for a peaking widow or someone coming around a corner. No reason to be charging your shots while standing in front of the enemy like that. Easy pushes like that usually happen because one or more people just arent contributing damage to the enemy to force them to stop coming forward. Either a retreating tank, a flanking dps that never gets into the fight, or in this case a zen not doing any damage.
Just the ultra slow decision making in this kills me. The 1-2 second lag between when an enemy appears and they decide to switch from heal to attack or visa versa, and the times when a grav is used or something else big happens and they have to stop, look around for a second and then decide to do something. I really hope this is a brand new player because if this is the result of many ours of experience then this guy is just doomed.
I feel the overhealing and preemptive healing and overusing of resources comes from not wanting to be seen as the « dps moira » even tho with the way theyre playing theyd have overall lower healing numbers and still get flamed
3:24 ok I had to pause the video here because I'm MAD! 😡😡😡 WHY WOULD YOU GIVE UP TRANCE WHEN YOU HAD KITSUNE AND HIGH NOON TOO?! THAT'S AN EASY RETAKE!
God I wish you could see chat in the replays
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side note: why is it the person who talks smack is always the one getting carried. Everytime I have someone write "ggez" on my team, they're the one with 10 kills and 30 deaths.
Because they are compensating for their insecurity. It's like how in all of those kids cartoons movies the little guy is the boss with tall henchmen lol but running their mouth. Same thing but different complex.
I wonder the same. One time I had an enemy DPS that said "ez" after winning (I think my team lost 2-3 on flashpoint) and they were playing junkrat while getting carried by their team.
They're usually doing it because they know they did bad and it makes the other team angry when they're the one to say it
i do this sometimes,its not insecurity its just that the enemy team usually has a stupid and annoying team comp to fight and i want to piss them off knowing that the worst person on the team said it was easy
Trolling
I love when toxis enemies get karma. Last night i had a soldier ult and kill all of us during overtime on the payload. He tbagged and started talking mad shit about team diff and how we need to uninstall. We came back and held them from capping the first point. He was talking crap to his whole team by the end and trying to cope saying he will have POTG. Our tank got POTG and they killed soldier with a remech of all things. That match felt so good
To the twitch chatter who asked "how do you crap talk on console" here's your answer.... you don't. You go AFK in hopes your team are playing good enough to make it seem you're not throwing
Most people just have a keyboard plugged in to type
This is me in the video, sorry for the constant resource usage. I just find it satisfying to use. I am also not a support player by any means
youre doing well! good luck in your future games :D
That's why you were playing support as a 'Healer'. Goodluck for your future games
Hope you take these lessons and apply them to your future games and climb up the ranks
As a support, dude I would LOVE to have you on my team. You have it down pretty damn well. I wish you luck in your future games!
Remember Moira's primary fire lingers to heal 51 over 3 seconds, so sometimes just tapping a teammate is enough! And I'd say try to stay above half on healing resources, so you'll always have emergency heals.
You can hear the Macaroni Gloves whenever she moves her hands. So Melee, Primary and Secondary Fire. But only when she puts her hands out and back in. Shit killed me when I heard it and Emongg was like “You hear that melee?” 😂
The amount of times they healed full health teammates had me stressing so bad, especially at the end when they had an Illari healing pylon right next to them all which would take care of any poke damage. Their positioning too was just so... so many times they were standing in the middle of the open to get an elim or heal, they're lucky they didnt get punished more for it. The flank plays were great though, I do that on support too when DPS are struggling to push I go "fine, Ill do it myself" hahah overall not too bad!
i think its a clear example of a player who doesnt know the character and who has no plans or ideas about what to do. They are just kind of meandering back and forth aimlessly spraying and throwing orbs, not sure of where to commit or where to go to press the attack. Literally the only time this player seemed to have any clear objective was when they were rolling and they dove in. Outside of that it was them looking around for someone else to give them direction.
A bit of Zen advice: I saw you mainly putting your healing orb on your tank and leaving it there, maybe swapping it to someone else if they got low. But Zen's healing is pretty weak, it's better used proactively, and especially on squishy allies. Just as you want to discord enemies that are about to get focused by your team, you want to put your healing orb on allies who are about to make a play. A flanking DPS, your other support who just got dove, etc. Tank can be fine when there aren't better targets, but 30hp/s is barely going to make any difference for a 600+hp tank, whereas for a 250hp hero it might keep them alive, and if they get forced into cover it'll also help get them back into the fight more quickly.
Bronce? I have never been in a game where that helps dps. Unless we're talking about phara or tracer.
@@jrpgnation6375 It's not really something you'd see having a major effect like an Ana nade or whatever, but it does make a difference. For example, a Cass landing body shots in range will land two shots a second, 70hp each. On a 250hp target, that's four shots to kill, with a time-to-kill of 1.5 seconds (starting the moment the first shot lands). Put a harmony orb on that same target, and now it's a minimum of five shots over two seconds to kill -- possibly more, if he misses any of his shots, or if his target manages to break LOS for a second or two. And if he happened to not have a full clip when he entered the duel, now he's going to have to reload before he gets the kill, which gives another 45hp of healing to his target for free, etc.
As Zen your main role is to dish out and amplify damage, but harmony orb allows you to also nudge the odds of certain engagements, whereas letting it sit on your tank will only really get you a trickle of ult charge.
I find that throwing a harmony on Genji allows him a lot more space to harass, but I’m no pro.
especially leaving it on the tank a majority of the game. you're taking ult charge away from your other support at that point. tanks take the big damage that high healing supports are more equipped to deal with, zen orb is perfect for slippery heroes or just healing chip damage on your mid-range dps so your other support can focus on pumping the tank with healing. i love having zen as my teammate if he understands this concept because i'll get nano or rush super fast when there's one dps i can put out of my mind for the most part
As someone who has played Zen since he had less than 200HP...
I agree with this in the context of this match and this player. But, it's all about those decisions with context. If I have a Widow and an Ashe sitting with me in the backline, in safety, and my Doomfist is fucking shit up in the distance, unless the dps need it cause they're getting dove on, Fist is getting that orb.
Huge piece of advice, stop using your fade to go in. It’s an escape ability. Your burning you fade on cool down and it’s literally the opposite of what it should be used for.
Had a chat where enemy team won one round and went “ez” and then when we won the next we went “ez” back and they said “ur about to regret that” and then they lost and immediately left before anyone could flame him
Reminded me the other week when I played comp as support. I’m usually a Zen main but my fellow support saw me and immediately typed “zen????” and wanting me to switch immediately. We got rolled too fast and not wanting to deal with constant hate as a Zen, swap to Moira yet the support still keep flaming me, even saying “My co healer is trash” in the team chat within the first 2 minutes! Had to concentrate really hard to show them whose the superior support and I carried very hard to the point I had the better scoreboard on healing, damage, elimination, and less deaths, and the other support got pretty quiet. Usually not prideful guy, but I saw this as an opportunity to repeat “my co healer is trash” but in the match chat for everyone to see. I bet the other team think I’m being a bully to the enemy Juno trying to do their best than the person who was being toxic to me like crazy.
If the comp requires a main healer, then Zen ain't the choice. But Zen is so top tier in ranked comps. The discord orb is too good not to have on your team
walk in, fade out. do not fade in unless your entire team is with you and you're just cleaning up a fight you've already won.
21:53 - 22:38 When you need to make your word count up for your essay.
Needs to stop throwing orbs at the ground when they get pressured. Just bounce it on a wall and follow it so it heals you.
apparently they say its muscle memory
so many spots on this map are good for bouncing and orb back and forth for perpetual healing. You want to rank up as moira you HAVE to do that instinctively.
As a Moira main, I will only be able to think about macaroni from here on.
i don’t like to hate my fellow mercy players but what was girlie trash talking for
like i saw her be so out of position in the worst spots for a mercy here like what
Mercy players are frequently the most toxic and the dumbest players in the lobby. Good Mercys usually shut up and play.
Mercy changed sides and started talking trash on her own team
Yeah idk what she was talking about lol I LOOOVE mercy on kings row there’s so many places she could’ve been that were just not where she was
why do you think its a gir;l
@@DiabolicalOrganisationgirlie is like bro they are not gender exclusive
Well I’ll never be able to play Moria now and not hear it.
While they were too aggressive, he did make Zen panic Ult 😂
Sometimes overwatch feels like a game of chatting and not shooting
I main moira and imma always hard target the widow if i ever see one
at least toss an orb and make her move
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@@dash4800 i do lul but a dmg orb only does so much thats why you fade in throw dmg orb and moiras dmg take 3 seconds to kill her the fade back to your team and you should have your orbs back when you fade back ez if you have another good support on your team
I made this comment a few times already, but I want to say it again. You‘re not going to learn a hero if you immediately swap just because the enemy has a slight advantage over your pick. This is just gold, it’s not that serious. Just practice the hero that you like, watch someone higher ranked how they play this hero and take notes. And you will never learn anything useful on Moira
I wasn't learning zen, I just wanted to see if his buff was good
thats just incorrect you learn how to play Moira by playing Moira.
IMO you shoul learn a hero in QP. In ranked you must play for win. And if you keep getting jumped by dps, switching off to moira isnt the worst idea.
youve said this comment a few times already get the hint no one cares its all opinion based. people learn cognitively different whatever works for u might not work for someone else dawg
I have more sweats in qp than comp
1. never fade to engage, even if its to chase one kill. you never know if theres that one genji holding blade, waiting for you to waste fade and it can lead to a team wipe and eventual loss. fade is such a useful escape, dont waste it when you can just as easily walk
2. if you cant learn to manage resources, learn to use healing orbs effectively. a more difficult play style, but still viable once perfected
3. congrats on the win against toxic AH's, im sure it felt great
the biggest thing with moira resource is not to overuse it when you don't have to. her heal gives an over time effect, so out of combat you really only need a tiny bit of resource meter to heal someone to full. you just have to be patient
14:12 "Nice", apparently Soldier didn't agree.
Hot take but moira is the reyna of overwatch. Her entire kit is very conducive to bad habits and unhelpful behaviors for a support with a knifes edge of useful vs feeding. The only reason people get so far with her is because no one is good at dealing with moira at lower elos
Also you don’t need a constant spray to heal, you tap the heal button and the teammates health will come back. Conserve your resources more when you’re not in the middle of a team fight. Team fights I spray. But not for a quick top off, burning way too much healing for no reason as emongg stated.
they need to trust their other support to heal for when they can't cause they waste so much
When I swap with a full ult the reasoning behind it is that after the ult I will not get any value past that. I feel I'm better off pulling another character that I will get better overall value out of over the one ult and be stuck not contributing as much as I might could.
Things you need to know: Moira heal is a hot (heal over time) just press heal one time and wait a few secs 2 or 3 before hit again. Better Ressource Management, better useable
Moira's utility is that she can jump into the backline and get kills. She hasn't got any other.
I def feel like in the last two games, this was a classic case of, I don't trust my other support to keep heals up on my team. They kept healing basically full team mates when there was a pylon right next to them. Fun game to watch though!
If Genji's deflecting, build up burst shot
Console is just a slower paced game imo. Everything isn't as frantic. The feeling is much nicer is many ways. You can see how Xim users are as bad as hackers.
I swear whoever talks shit first loses, especially if you shit on a whole team the next round they are two ranks higher, I've seen plat widows turn into top 500 spawn trappers after one too many messages
Hey, I recently picked up ow as a new shooter and found myself maining bastion since I believe I have rather good tracking.
But I’m struggling to win couple of my ranked games and it feels like that in a lot of games my team asserts absolutely no pressure because in a lot of cases all 5 enemies just use everything on me and my team gets nothing out of it. I do find myself out of position from time to time especially because I’m really bad in terms of ult tracking.
I’m open for advice to improve positioning, ult tracking and also own ult usage on bastion since his ult seems really weak to me like I do get area control with it, which is pretty good but rarely get kills and I’m uncertain whether I should get kills with it
10:42 that rein said no it be like that sometimes next time if they got a rein turn corners with fade lose los so he can't charge into you when you don't have it
11:25 hear hammer use fade if you don't use fade and you didn't die use fade there is no reason to ever not use fade to save yourself
“I don’t wanna spoil it for you” proceeds to spoil the whole game 😅 like wow bro we never woulda guessed this outcome
my bad, I wanted the description to sound more interesting
@@BigJayBut Btw I think if you take a second to aim your orb before tossing it, you'll get a lot more value
"nice shot" hahahaha
Watching people play Moira and just... holding down their heals for so long wasting resource bothers me.
I figured by now it should be general knowledge that just tapping it will cause a Heal over time on allies so you don't have to waste so much... It's crazy.
It was frustrating watching them heal full health targets for sure something to work on
but decent ideas for plays, could make a really good player one day =)
I agree with the heal thing. Sending damage orb on cd. There’s times for both but there’s never a time to only use dmg orb. Heal orb helps more in many situations especially on close fights like 3rd point. And then they heal orb themselves and not their team 🤣
It was nice of you to do a video featuring Jay3's Big But
Emongg taking shittalk seriously and thinking it has any logic or sense to it 😂😭
Something that im shocked that i dont see more is talk about the toxicity of the players at this point. Id argue that overwatch players are approaching the toxicity of league which is saying something. Ive played both and i like support in OW and jungle in league which are both the most flammed positions (arguably tank in OW) Note i never played enough to get into ranked (league) so that accounts for some of it. But i get flammed more on QP support of OW then i do jungling in what is known as the most toxic community.
It’s hard to watch my main get under utilized.
17:08 Why gloves? They shoulda raw dogged it
Damn, i got to use that tutorial line
bro has 1% accuracy on zen ☠☠☠
I wish you’d look at the guy VeganParm but that would mean you’d be giving him more platform
How does one submit a replay?
I think you need to be in his discord
GRONK SPIKE THAT ORB
lol I was thinking why is nothing happening then he said it was console and it explains everything pc is so much more chaotic
This reminds me of the Toxic Four Man Squad I was playing with on Unranked. I was playing my Junkrat with the JunkFood Skin. Note: I had 24 kills and 4 deaths, and the Tank Doomfist had 19 kills and 8 deaths.
Since I was going for kills and not protecting the Mercy and Kiriko, it's my fault we lost in their POV.
Just to clarify, I kept killing their Reaper and Zenyatta constantly. And both only got to use their Ults once each.
The Enemy Team had a Reinhardt, Lucio, and Sombra most of the time.
Sombra killed me three times, and the Reaper killed me once.
I told Doomfist to swap to a character that has better defence (Told him in count Six Times)
Now for the final thing. I got POTG.
It was a Three Man kill with Riptire and a final kill on Zenyatta after he used his Ult. We still lost to a Sombra - Reinhardt - Reaper Ult Combination.
After we lost they told me I was awful and shouldn't deserve POTG. And told me "EAT THAT JUNKFOOD SKIN FATTY"
Now is this my Fault for not helping out our Supports?
Now I'm not the one to talk but they crap talking you while you did more than your tank who refused to swap to other hero is kinda unreasonable plus it was unranked, so why grt so toxic over something that doesn't matter to your rank? And I myself had a toxic teammates who was playing kiriko and it was one of my worst matches as Genji and they told me to swap to junkrat and after we won and I got POTG as junkrat that kiriko told me to never play genji again which kinda hurt, I could've just had a single bad match dude and you and our other support were mainly healing tank when I was spamming "I need healing" while hiding and on low HP but know I just suck as Genji. But I think depending on your supports and how they were positioned had to factor on how much they got attacked by their team so I would say that it's two sided but then again what do I know? My season high rank on DPS is silver 4 and I was before falling down to solver 4, a silver 2 support on lifeweaver so idk what I'm talking about
I really wish I could see the game chat now. 😂
I smell macaroni
can't believe Team 2 lost to bots.
i mean, that moira play was pretty much a bot. As a moira main that was destroying my soul. Just basic stuff like wasting healing, not knowing the range of your abilities, and not healing people right in front of you. They basically got beat by a complete moira noob.
I wonder why Emongg allows comments like this. Maybe its hard to moderate
@@Sevse-nh3fi Maybe you missed the intro part where the submitter said that the other team called them "AI Bots".
11:58 she's full hp, stop holding left click omf
I wish they would treat Morias like how old sym was. Her primary fire use to be like hers and I absolutely dispise, loath her having a lock on primary. Why do they keep it like that I do not understand it.
Ur clearly a genji player
@@duskzer0816how about opening your mouth you learn how to spell before being a prick. Also no I'm a support player. Any other stupid shit you wanna say?
dude, moiras dmg/s is one of the lowest in the game. 65 dmg per second, 115 if you get a dmg orb to stay perfectly on someone for an entire second. Thats insanely trash. Plus a pretty limited range on it as well. If moira didnt have lock on aim she would basically do nothing and would have no utility at all.
Moira doesn't have lock on aim. It's a beam just like sym or zar, but with an animation effect.
You've been playing since old Symmetra and you still think Moira's beam is an aimlock? Holy cow that's sad
watching the twitch chat complaining this person is damaging too much is destroying my braincells
tiktok takes have destroyed any shred of gamesense metal rank players have in this game
Someone who has like 200 hours as moira, they are completely wasting their resources and looking lost the entire game. Spray heals in segments since after you stop spraying they still get healed for a little bit and the more damage you do the faster your resources generate. Also needs to use more healing orbs and throw them at the walls where it can bounce off another wall and pin ball pretty much. Stop fading for no reason, only use fade to get out of the fight to cover and heal. If in a 1v1 don’t damage orb, use your heals that should give you enough time to either get another orb or have your fade to get out then by the time the enemy catches back up to you, you will have your orb again.
the only time i call a player a bot is when the person is walking into walls an ignoring combat an looking at the wall. other then that i don't call a player a bot unless it actually do act it. this dont look as a bot to me. I get talking shit cause its fun but it has to be somewhat accurate.
tanks that just walk forward into the enemy team and get melted over and over again without stopping or taking cover or anything. Those I will always call out as bots. Usually maugas or Orisas. No way a human brain can be that dumb.
I cant believe this is gold
Believe it, I live there and it sucks lol
@@corwintodd5131 I'm sorry for you
11:07 bro that Zarya is crit and you're dmging a shield 😭
Day one of asking for more Elden Ring
On pc they would be low bronze
ok that moira wasnt that good. i see many people dont understand geometry or dont even think of it when using orb. many times you can use geometry to get SO much more value of your orbs. also many times i see people dont use healing orb when it would be 100000x better than a dmg orb that gets 50 dmg done and then floats into oblivion. also you get super jump off her movement ability so you they could easily get up many higher grounds. moira is quite mobile if you dont overexted stupidly and rush into enemy team in a 2v5 and have to survive 6 seconds which you 100% wont
Overwatch still has me on their 2 week ban for calling someone's Sombra gameplay "goofy" and telling them to hold their L 🤣
rapidly tapping enemies with moiras dmg gives you healing faster
life saving tech tbh
its pretty much impossible to be out of heals as much as they are, the gimik of spamming dmg and using your dng orb to get heals back in like 3 seconds, they don't even do, they just waste heals and wait for it to rise. and the wide peaking was scary.
why does every person that sends in a match of them playing moira they’re always pre-healing 😭😭😭 as a moira main that makes me cringe so bad
Because it’s a gold match where nothing that happens makes any sort of sense ever.
nah pre healing is like a gurI thing, bois dont do dumb thing like this
@@jake9854 it’s a rank thing.
Is the macaroni thing real? 😭😭😭
No way this is gold. The constant wasting resources on healing full HP targets, so they have no resources for pushes in... Omg.
lots of people get pulled into higher ranks through rng.
Moira needs a resource meter for her damage.
“Is this the tutorial” is kinda funny though icl
just off the jump, stop charging every zen shot. You spend time charging then miss and its more time you arent actually doing any damage. Just shoot normally and adjust each shot to max out your damage. Only charge when you are waiting for a peaking widow or someone coming around a corner. No reason to be charging your shots while standing in front of the enemy like that. Easy pushes like that usually happen because one or more people just arent contributing damage to the enemy to force them to stop coming forward. Either a retreating tank, a flanking dps that never gets into the fight, or in this case a zen not doing any damage.
Just the ultra slow decision making in this kills me. The 1-2 second lag between when an enemy appears and they decide to switch from heal to attack or visa versa, and the times when a grav is used or something else big happens and they have to stop, look around for a second and then decide to do something. I really hope this is a brand new player because if this is the result of many ours of experience then this guy is just doomed.
i love spectating videos!!!!!
ALLRIGHT SO!
My favorite part honestly 😂
hearing blue archive ost on a Emongg video was not something I was expecting this year
Either they don't play moira or gold 3 console is bronze on pc.
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Checking every video to see if it me 🫣. Love watching you! Toasty is my name!
I feel the overhealing and preemptive healing and overusing of resources comes from not wanting to be seen as the « dps moira » even tho with the way theyre playing theyd have overall lower healing numbers and still get flamed
3:24 ok I had to pause the video here because I'm MAD! 😡😡😡
WHY WOULD YOU GIVE UP TRANCE WHEN YOU HAD KITSUNE AND HIGH NOON TOO?! THAT'S AN EASY RETAKE!