Why This Singaporean Moved Back from the UK

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    Meet Nicholas Fang, a Singaporean who lived in the UK for three years before moving back. Since then, he has been on the Singapore national team for fencing and triathlon, worked as a reporter, served as a nominated member of parliament, and launched a few successful businesses.
    During our chat, Nicholas shared his reasons for leaving the UK, the biggest challenges facing Singapore in the future, and his encounter with Barack Obama.
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    00:00 INTRO
    00:32 Return to Singapore
    04:23 Democracy in Singapore
    06:28 How to improve Singapore?
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    15:22 What has Mr Lee Kuan Yew done for Singapore
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ความคิดเห็น • 478

  • @MaxChernov
    @MaxChernov  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Do you want to stay in Singapore or move out?

    • @Rixynator
      @Rixynator 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Stay. It's hard to give up efficiency and safety.

    • @heavymetalrox268
      @heavymetalrox268 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Keep my passport & assets in SG, live in the US/CA and if shit happens fly back home.

    • @returo7297
      @returo7297 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      for most Muslim? earth is never been never will the real home, human always in a journey while still in mortal realm, till we back to our real home, the Heaven. So technically by Islam? all human on earth is expat! And for any Durians all human in ASEAN is incompetent occupiers. Durian got rights too to be love! #savedurian 🐡

    • @Rixynator
      @Rixynator 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@returo7297are you serious right now?

    • @returo7297
      @returo7297 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      u can ask more with ur local Islamic scholar/expert/expat who educated enough in Islam theology/knowledge, btw theology/religion knowledge is legit global highly praised and respected academica major subject@@Rixynatorull be surprised how many excange scholars Muslim/other religio person who learn at eachother Theo Unis . . . and Religi Academica centre/community . . . , not just STEM doin exchange students wouldnt u? and ull also be surprised how many of those expatborn&/raised imam/missionaries/scholars whos well highly respected and accepted even alot more than native/ori born leaders.

  • @durian5233
    @durian5233 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +220

    Those who travel and live overseas will truly appreciate Singapore. There is no place like home.

    • @hieveryone2003
      @hieveryone2003 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Actually, those who travel and live l/work overseas will develop an ability to appreciate certain things about each country they live in.

    • @kichia-lk4ql
      @kichia-lk4ql 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Agree. Spore is not perfect, but very very very close. Saying it as someone who has lived in the western hemisphere.

    • @leenathayil2039
      @leenathayil2039 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kichia-lk4ql - I agree and it's very true!

    • @leenathayil2039
      @leenathayil2039 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@hieveryone2003 - I agree and it's very true!

    • @leenathayil2039
      @leenathayil2039 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I've been living in a western country since 2005 and I truly truly truly appreciate my dearest Singapore! In today's chaotic and tough world, Singapore has become a true heaven on earth! ------- coming from a true blue born and bred Overseas Sporean 😃

  • @niahma3494
    @niahma3494 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    After staying 3 years in Australia, I can relate to him 100%

    • @superflyingRaRa
      @superflyingRaRa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Especially when it comes to public transport 😂

    • @juaramy8071
      @juaramy8071 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hey we never want you in australia mate.

  • @sgholidae
    @sgholidae 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    This is so true, I feel every citizen needs to stay elsewhere for few years and back, they will appreciate home country more

    • @allisonin7745
      @allisonin7745 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Well said

    • @leenathayil2039
      @leenathayil2039 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes, I agree and very well said! 🙌

    • @juaramy8071
      @juaramy8071 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Singapore is a Malay island...so still foreigner
      but Malays accommodating then English

    • @user-yt4wd5vr3b
      @user-yt4wd5vr3b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Totally true! I lived in oversea for many years, but I realised my home country is better😂

    • @ngungchiasiew8442
      @ngungchiasiew8442 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@juaramy8071
      All lands belong to someone somewhere in time .... China 😂 to Mongolia for some period; Rome owns many parts of Europe ....
      Singapore and all lands ... once own by animals .....
      What's important is Singapore is Singaporean land now ... regardless of races, religions, languages and Nationalities 😅😅😅
      Countries that insist that their land belongs to one race only .... will discourage integration of all and leads to long term decline ... the strength of SGD against their currencies clearly show the wisdom level of claiming land of one country belong to one race and not the people staying in that country

  • @KS-gb1ne
    @KS-gb1ne 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Full of respect for my fellow Singaporean! You only appreciate Singapore when you stay away for a number of years. Home is the best!

  • @dacia2101
    @dacia2101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    I like how this guest described SG, so intellectual. hope SG citizen appreciates this country, not perfect but better than many others

    • @nur_aryani
      @nur_aryani 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have travelled (as a tourist mostly), and have seen the comparisons of a lot of the daily stuff to Singapore. You kind of appreciate the efficiency & safety of Singapore.

  • @tanchye1720
    @tanchye1720 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    A very wise guy.
    Mature, well experienced, well learned & travelled to know the good, the bad & the ugly.

  • @seanlxgue
    @seanlxgue 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I visited Singapore for the first time in February 2023 and I have to say the country works like clockwork. It’s super efficient, clean, easy to navigate, excellent public transport system. It is quite pricey: but well worth the visit.

    • @dreamjourneyvincent3657
      @dreamjourneyvincent3657 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You may get almost similar effect in Malaysia 🇲🇾 with theee times much cheaper from Singapore.. ☺️😊

    • @seanlxgue
      @seanlxgue 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dreamjourneyvincent3657 I have a trip from Dublin via Dubai to Kuala Lumpur in April. Heading out there for 10 days and I’m really looking forward to it. I met a lot of Malaysians working in Singapore and I couldn’t help but gain interest in Malaysia; I’m really looking forward to the much cheaper prices; the food & culture.

    • @Asidders
      @Asidders 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's not THAT clean. That image is overdone

    • @ttii9
      @ttii9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Chlorox capital.

    • @kamariahabdrahim6963
      @kamariahabdrahim6963 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ttii9 Is that bad?

  • @ivyneo7826
    @ivyneo7826 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    YES, I have worked and live in China for 20 years, I live like any of the China citizen but in my heart, Singapore is my home, now I am home

    • @juaramy8071
      @juaramy8071 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no china is your true home.

  • @arcencielc2065
    @arcencielc2065 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    Sharing the same comment here:
    I concur with Nicholas Fang. Singapore 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
    In my younger days, I lived in the USA and Europe for over a decade. I made a conscious choice to return to Singapore as I felt that Singapore was the best country for me and my family. I still feel this way. I am happy and grateful to be in Singapore. This is my personal story so there is no need to attack me for my love for Singapore. Haha.

    • @Lalalalalelo
      @Lalalalalelo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I attack you for not coming back sooner😂

    • @trentlim9964
      @trentlim9964 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      90% of people will always think their country is still the best. Just like many expats in singapore will return to USA & Europe and think like u, home sweet home. My eyes are wide open. I know there has to be a country better than SG. We're already denser than GAZA.. average housing cost more expensive than HK.. Working more hours than Japan. I dun think chicken rice & 30 mins to anywhere is a reason to stay in SG.

    • @juaramy8071
      @juaramy8071 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Singapore is a Malay island...so still foreigner
      but Malays accommodating then English
      to chinese. of course china is still real home

    • @Lalalalalelo
      @Lalalalalelo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@juaramy8071 I don't understand your point. Can you explain?

    • @arcencielc2065
      @arcencielc2065 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My fellow Singaporeans, this person@@juaramy8071 is dangerous. He is trying to destroy our multiracial society. I think he is a foreigner who is jealous of Singapore's success. I don't believe that our Malay sisters and brothers would say such a thing.

  • @user-if1vh8po2f
    @user-if1vh8po2f 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    I've lived and worked in the UK for 8 years, and am so glad I decided to return.
    Singapore is super efficient and NOT one of the world's most expensive!
    That is a comparison to developing and neighbouring countries.
    Compared to the west . . . Singapore is So Affordable!
    US/CA??? For me, it's a "No-Brainer" to remain in Sg!

    • @Ersanba
      @Ersanba 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      U are so right.. for people like us who have been staying overseas will know SG is not the most expensive city in the world

    • @PrincessAmenRa
      @PrincessAmenRa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Just got back from Sydney. It's a sad state over there. The city has gotten so unaffordable there are homeless people on the street. I saw a young woman sleeping rough outside Woolworths at night.

    • @paulinetan4502
      @paulinetan4502 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There will still Singaporeans who will give up their citizenship, for greener pastures, which I find it is a huge pity. But i don’t feel sad.

    • @trentlim9964
      @trentlim9964 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      u're talking in this manner because u already own a flat . Let's see if u still feel the same paying 877k BTO in AMK or 1million resale in ghim moh. Or 340k for 3 room BTO flat in ulu pandan

    • @trentlim9964
      @trentlim9964 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@PrincessAmenRa Singapore also many homeless, just they are being shoo off the street. Sydney is as unaffordable as Ghimoh resale HDB . But those who cannot afford in sydney are free to move to another state. Singapore u're stuck in a slow boil. Yes stay for the chicken rice & convenience.. but its still a hot humid concrete jungle. Almost everyone is not used to another country other than their own. This is called lack of adaptability not that singapore is so great.

  • @fomoyolope3573
    @fomoyolope3573 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Hi Max: Thank you for the interview. I am impressed by his energy and motivation coming from his experience of living overseas and hard core Singapore. His frank answers say a lot of him. Great job with the interview. I am sure a lot of expat, Singaporean living overseas, ex-Singlish, local and foreigners enjoy watching it.

    • @MaxChernov
      @MaxChernov  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Our pleasure!

  • @cuclainne
    @cuclainne 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My husband's from Sweden and he's been here 18/19 years. When he goes back to Sweden, he feels strange like it's not his home. He said he feels like nothing's changed but he has.. so Singapore is home now.

  • @litcseow6725
    @litcseow6725 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Having stayed in US for > 10 years and another 9 years in Shanghai. Every place has its own pros and cons. Eventually you are still a foreigner in a foreign land. There is no where like home in Singapore. And that is why I am back finally after spending > 20 years out of Singapore.

    • @trentlim9964
      @trentlim9964 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      90% of people will always think their country is still the best. Just like many expats in singapore will return to USA & Europe and think like u, home sweet home. My eyes are wide open. I know there has to be a country better than SG. We're already denser than GAZA.. average housing cost more expensive than HK.. Working more hours than Japan. I dun think hawker food , efficiency & 30 mins to anywhere is a reason to stay in SG. Already u can see more and more mental cases. Maybe u're in retiree mode and having a great time.. but for the rest of us.. its not

    • @outdoor75
      @outdoor75 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@trentlim9964 there was a survey recently that Singaporeans were the unhappiest people in the work place. Doesn't sound like the work life balance in Singapore is very good. I think you are right he is in retirement mode.

    • @litcseow6725
      @litcseow6725 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am not saying u have to stay in SG. Go outside and see for yourself. No point arguing here. Easy to argue using the keyboard. Go experience it. There is no such thing as a perfect place. Every place has its pros and cons. @@trentlim9964

    • @litcseow6725
      @litcseow6725 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree the work environment in SG is less ideal and pay is lower. When u are young, go outside SG and see for yourself. I did and I never regret doing that. In fact, I would encourage, don't stay in SG when you are young. Go out and see for yourself. @@outdoor75

    • @jonathanchia9167
      @jonathanchia9167 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dont lie to us that working hours more than japan. In my company, the singaporeans leave earlier than the japanese. Japanese stay till 9-10pm everyday.working. Locals leave at most 6-7pm. My company is a japanese company located in Singapore.@@trentlim9964

  • @Ra-mx4bo
    @Ra-mx4bo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Very impressed by Nicholas' knowledge on what made Singapore ticks.

  • @sallyyip2036
    @sallyyip2036 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    There’s no place like HOME Singapore 🇸🇬

  • @user-nn1rj9tf9x
    @user-nn1rj9tf9x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    After living in London over 20 years, I can understand and relate to him more then 100%. The situation had got worst since Brexit as the racism has gone up a lot !

    • @juaramy8071
      @juaramy8071 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sometimes I wonder at stupidity. there is no racism in china but you don't want your own culture.

  • @inumusha7108
    @inumusha7108 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This man is so wise. I feel I learned a lot just by listening to him talk.

  • @christyhilton1919
    @christyhilton1919 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I agree with him, No countries is prefect. Choose country base on your lifestyle preference. World is our oyster. I've been all these 1st World countries, all have their challenges in this evolving world, SG is not spare. I have reservations on its ability to tackle even Aging and growing migration, climate change, so crowded, so expensive etc. Past 50 years not going to be the same next 50 years. So like him, I will need a back up plan for sure.

  • @Princess_Pear
    @Princess_Pear 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A very eloquent and charismatic representative of Singapore. I fully agree with his assessment of being away from home to fully appreciate home, as is very clear from the comments here.
    Personally, what I think was such a great policy which LKY implemented in Singapore and which most Singaporeans benefit from, and which most foreigners are not clear about, is the building of our national conscious and what it truly means to be Singaporean. Growing up, Social Studies was always a giveaway class that you got full marks in and which was an easy A. We never thought about what it was really imparting - the meaning of multiculturalism, multiracial and harmonious society. We celebrate what makes us different, but also what brings us together at the end of the day. As an ethnic Chinese, I meet Chinese citizens who say "oh, you're Chinese". Yes, that's true, but I'm always Singaporean first, which is something I take great pride in, and something which has been embedded so deep in my person I take it for granted. We are all Singaporean first.
    It seems like such a simple or unimportant fact, but the lessons of the past few years really come home to roost when witnessing events such as the US storming of the Capitol, or other countries' response to the pandemic. Even observing how integration of immigrants into European/Western society and the backlash of Islamaphobia makes it so clear why LKY chose the path of nation building to incorporate identity building with tolerance and respect at its core. We had our own riots and disharmony, it's always around the corner if we are not careful... so when Mr. Fang speaks of trade-offs, as I grow older, the rationale for our path is so sharply focused.
    I hope our children will understand what it means to call ourselves Singaporean. That definition would evolve and constantly change if we do it right. But without understanding the importance and the relevance of being Singaporean, we can't tide over the next big issue that comes our way.

  • @hadiyazid
    @hadiyazid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Probably one of the most eloquent man I ever heard. His insights are not how to be best or perfect but how the imperfections can be a crucial transformative element.

  • @derrickcsh
    @derrickcsh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Great interview giving 2 different aspect of staying aboard and coming back to Singapore. Nicholas bring up the good communication between the government and the citizen which I believe is really important. Misunderstanding in this relationship might lead to similar unrest growing around different parts of the world. The authentic aspect for leaders are really important to help the nation grow and prosper in the present and future.

  • @laszlopetergyarmati6279
    @laszlopetergyarmati6279 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Really enjoyed this interview. Pleasant to hear a clear and conscious communicator. Sign of a strong mind and good thinking. Interesting perspectives.

  • @luxury-Diver
    @luxury-Diver 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I have lived in Australia and still love the country, life style, the people, space, weather. It's a great place to raise kids

    • @ColtraneTaylor
      @ColtraneTaylor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great place for the wealthy to raise kids.

  • @GIGTTK
    @GIGTTK 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Nic bro, i can’t agree more; spent 7 years in London and feel more estranged with every passing year…

  • @stargazeronesixseven
    @stargazeronesixseven 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    😊🙏 True , we Singaporeans are a bit spoilt , like if being stuck in transit for 45 minutes or more in public transport , they will begining to feel agitated like they're in a National Crisis or something! 😅🙏

  • @ahjotco906
    @ahjotco906 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice and informative interview with a very smart guest. Cheers from the USA 🇺🇸

  • @noproblematallmate
    @noproblematallmate 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Singapore, on the contrary, is more democratic than USA. Our politicians don't fund raise from cooperations to buy votes during election. Anyone in SG can apply to be opposition to run in the election too. Just because the same party wins all the time doesn't mean it is a dictatorship or close to it. #sufferingfromsuccess

    • @lauratanln
      @lauratanln 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is why they still have a gun culture due to their gun lobby despite almost regular shootings in schools and everywhere.

  • @zeegydoo189
    @zeegydoo189 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Totally can relate as Malaysian after 7 years in US and 5 years in Australia. While Malaysia is not perfect and has problems, still call my home

  • @vieworama8188
    @vieworama8188 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Another thing to note of late mr lky, he gave the citizens the confidence that he would sink with the ship, and that gave hope, a factor and feeling to much needed by the pioneers

    • @sang-suangam9772
      @sang-suangam9772 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      also,i feel that LKY very admirable trait, was to be able to assemble a team of very intelligent, motivated and dedicated pioneers; who were all willing to sacrifice their personal careers in the private sectors, to help build Singapore!

    • @juaramy8071
      @juaramy8071 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sang-suangam9772 what career? they were all migrant coolies before.

  • @bumihijau5670
    @bumihijau5670 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enjoyed this interview. Thanks

  • @nasiltan9044
    @nasiltan9044 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @maxchernov Thank you for another great interview. Awesome stuff. Keep up the fabulous work!!!

    • @MaxChernov
      @MaxChernov  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @angielew8281
      @angielew8281 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The best interview you have with Nicholas Fang.. as compared with others you have interviewed.

  • @Banayaga
    @Banayaga 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic interview!

  • @oimei2627
    @oimei2627 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Singaporeans are lucky. For Malaysian non-Bumi even when we move home we are still treated as second class.

  • @simkiankiong3599
    @simkiankiong3599 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nicolas was spot on about Singapore

  • @kayflip2233
    @kayflip2233 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'm Asian American from NYC and I am always confused why people say Singapore is boring. It has everything we have here in NYC without the riffraff, plus you are within a 3 hour flight to anywhere within Southeast Asia, which is where everyone in the world wants to go to for fun.

  • @SoonHengTan-wt9gi
    @SoonHengTan-wt9gi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A good conversation full of excellent advice for those who are trying to migrate the west.

  • @keemarotichai
    @keemarotichai 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    treat the foreigners with more warmth. the land is not ours, we all share land with others living on earth with us.

  • @huathuat888
    @huathuat888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great interview

  • @maxjek2374
    @maxjek2374 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It was dreary living in a northern city in the UK. I was beaten up by a drunken local one night there.

  • @bigthings
    @bigthings 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Currently in the US for close to 5 years now. SG is still best for most SGreans. What’s stopping me from coming back is a high-paying remote job which is few and far between in SG.

    • @luxury-Diver
      @luxury-Diver 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What I dislike abt Singapore is the weather

  • @Hermit-Crab
    @Hermit-Crab 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is home truly where I know I must be
    Where my dreams wait for me, where that river always flow
    This is home surely as my senses tell me
    This is where I won't be alone for this is where I know it's home

  • @arfriedman4577
    @arfriedman4577 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Im american. Id love to visit Singapore. I heard its very clean and safe.

  • @RoyFJ65
    @RoyFJ65 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I felt the same in NY even though I was fifteen when I went there as a student. After over thirty years, I have left NY for good and no regrets.

  • @stevensteven3425
    @stevensteven3425 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Spot on! No matter you are born in the "west" or lived there for along time or almost your whole live, and specificly when you have a "colour" you will never be seen as one of them.
    On the outside you can get along, but somehow if they can choose between you and one of their "same colour", then it will be not you. Even if you are fully integrated.
    You may not recognize or feel it, but if one day you have sometime and lay down, then think about it. Maybe these westerners do not do it on purpose, but it's in the "dna".
    A blunt example, just look what happened last year, when people flee out of Ukraine. Listen what jounalist and Europeans said, we have to help them because they are blond and have blue eyes.
    They even welcome them in their own homes, did they ever do this with all others who had to flee their country because of war? Like Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Africa, etc.

    • @P53eud0nym05
      @P53eud0nym05 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Even if same skin & eye colour, you try going to china & see if they consider you one of “their own” 😂 Which is expected. Kinda like how many S’poreans talk about not being “true blue S’porean” when referring to “new citizens”

    • @wish-56
      @wish-56 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Big disadvantage to people who are not wh*te

  • @ewansariasmara8215
    @ewansariasmara8215 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May in future you will do a lot more interviewing on celebrities activities.
    .

  • @frankmichaelchiara
    @frankmichaelchiara 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    3 years is too short a time to feel assimilated in the UK or anywhere else, although I agree with most of his commentaries on Singapore governance. Having lived in the US for 35 years, his "assimilation" opinion or second class UK citizenry is based on his Singapore and limited UK experiences .... which are inadequate. Fang's opinion on Obama is point-on, and both he and Obama are observant, principled, and sincere ... qualities which make good leadership. They have and should continue serving their societies respectively, and their people would be better off because of them.

  • @nicholasgoh3526
    @nicholasgoh3526 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the problem is with the ‘communication’ from the people to the government- it is very restrictive, ignored, or simply treated as an echo chamber.

  • @EssentiallyAI
    @EssentiallyAI 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In the transient ebb and flow of global migration, the canvas of individual experience paints a variegated picture. Just as artists have, through the ages, chosen their abodes - be it the bustling lanes of Paris or the serene landscapes of Arles - so too do modern souls in their quest for a place that resonates with their inner ethos. Singapore, a modern marvel, and London, a repository of historical grandeur, stand as two contrasting backdrops in this vast gallery of life.
    The choice between these two worlds is akin to a preference in art - is it the avant-garde that speaks to your spirit, or the timeless classicism? The rich cultural tapestry of London may allure those with a penchant for historical depth and diversity, much like a Renaissance masterpiece that reveals more with each viewing. Singapore, in contrast, is a contemporary installation, bold and efficient, yet perhaps glossing over the subtle complexities beneath its surface.
    Critics of place, much like critics of art, may point to the shadows beneath the luminescence, the unseen costs of a city's polished facade. In Singapore, some expatriates and natives alike might choose to overlook these lesser seen aspects, focusing instead on the vibrant strokes of progress and modernity.
    Ultimately, the narrative of preference is a deeply personal one, a subjective interpretation of what constitutes the foreground and background of one's life. What one might perceive as a vivid splash of opportunity, another might see as an overbearing stroke, disrupting the harmony of their scene. The discourse on the merits of any locale, therefore, remains an open gallery, where each viewer is both an observer and a participant in the evolving art of living.

  • @MyMrGreedy
    @MyMrGreedy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Welcome back, yes I agree living in Europe mentality.
    If Singapore can do better with living Accommodation.

  • @stanleyshyeoh
    @stanleyshyeoh หลายเดือนก่อน

    All the best to Singapore.

  • @notification47
    @notification47 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    bro, you cannot have the cake and eat it it at the same time... that is life.

  • @Li-ty4ve
    @Li-ty4ve 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Guess Nic is a well educated and intelligent and balanced in view. Very well presented views on Sg. Many things are optic opinions about Sg law makers and can be explained by relevant authority. Clarity explanation, like what Nic, said, is key to Trust. Kudos, Nic.

  • @pallavkan
    @pallavkan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Same I feel in Germany.. will
    Move back after Summer

  • @pangcheongkai7009
    @pangcheongkai7009 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If a person has culture problems then no matter where he goes the problems are always there.

  • @JS-ev4xc
    @JS-ev4xc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to see Nicholas Fang, may be he should join back CNA, the golden boy then. 😊

  • @FKCao-ry7in
    @FKCao-ry7in 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's like returning to ur own Home Sweet Home after a day's hard work, to where u belong. There's no perfect country in the world, but Singapore is safe, efficient, has good infrastructure of transport, etc, various types of cuisine within easy reach, etc... A place where all the daily needs can be easily met, where most of our friends n relatives are, n more... That's what matters. Coming back to Home Sweet Home indeed, the place u belong.

    • @P53eud0nym05
      @P53eud0nym05 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tell that to anti PAP supporters who will give you equally as many reasons why SG sucks thanks to PAP 😂

    • @juaramy8071
      @juaramy8071 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why firget your relatives in china?

    • @FKCao-ry7in
      @FKCao-ry7in 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Am of minority group, so nothing to do with being forgetful about...
      Chief Administration Officer (C A O) is a post held by a good helpful old boss who passed on last year...

  • @Time4Peace
    @Time4Peace 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What role can SG play as a small nation? We can show that people of different ethnicity, culture, religion and background can coexist in peace and respect for each other, that we can achieve more together, and that differences will always be there but solvable by cool headed discussion than by hate and fear mongering. That should be a mission and pride inculcated into Singaporeans.

  • @jaytso1883
    @jaytso1883 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The big communication problem is when people don't listen to understand, but listen to reply.

  • @arieladelinechoo9845
    @arieladelinechoo9845 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    People, be realistic. If you stay there 10 years, you will be more comfortable there. 3 years are not enough to give your mind a strong attachment to a foreign land. Of course, being Singaporean, always complaint about others because Singapore is TOO efficient.
    I stay in Tokyo , Zurich, London for a long period of 2 years to 3....i enjoy the differences because the ppl are brought up differently...my interest is to know why and how they live in their country. And, of course you are a foreigner or an immigrant. Recognise that, and you can have more experience.

  • @juhantoon6524
    @juhantoon6524 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    True. Especially for Asian who seek greener pasture in the West or rather countries formed majorly by the Whites is inevitably look upon as a second class or even third class citizen. Racism is real in that part of the world. Some may argue and bring out some success story of migrants making it good. But this are few as compare to the majority trying to make a decent living there. Many recent Hong Kong migrants who migrated to UK under the special arrangement will testify to it. But sad to say, they now lost their right to return to HK.

  • @daisuke910
    @daisuke910 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Odd. I always feel like the UK is my home. Maybe because I make a lot of friends here. And home is just not home anymore since my parent has already passed away when I was young.
    Always been an island of a person and makes connection wherever I go

  • @zl8003
    @zl8003 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    On a light hearted note, I believe he stays in bukit timah/Holland area because I stay in the true west (boonlay) and no way I can get home in 30mins unless I take a cab at some ungodly hour and the driver is kind enough to drive really fast 😂

  • @limliza992
    @limliza992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are 2 sides of coins. Depends on what you want, Singapore is a best place to live if you are rich and at least the cost of living is not a concern.
    To some locals, overseas life is out of reach, no money or job overseas. Staying put is the only option even they have to continue working to foot the bills. Of course, not everyone is in the same situation, some work to pass time. Cost keep going up, high competition for good jobs and high academic expectations if you wish to get into top universities.
    The pros of live in western countries are that they have more balance lifestyles and broader scopes of interests despite being 2nd class citizens.

  • @Qoonutz
    @Qoonutz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey, I saw you at ARC’s Unity pharmacy today. Get well soon from your cough!

    • @MaxChernov
      @MaxChernov  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hahaha thanks 😊

  • @holliswong8519
    @holliswong8519 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Try Australia. Been here 18 years and felt like home on day 1

  • @gelinrefira
    @gelinrefira 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Probably a better idea to get out of a failing country and actually come back to a place with a future.

    • @heavymetalrox268
      @heavymetalrox268 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Well said, the Western empires are collapsing in real-time, but Singapore can get really boring, so I like to have one leg in both.

    • @Lucas-wn5wm
      @Lucas-wn5wm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@heavymetalrox268in SG is for you to grind grind grind and go holidays ( i dont hate this)

    • @gelinrefira
      @gelinrefira 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@heavymetalrox268 Of course, we need to remain neutral and see how the world changes and act accordingly.
      I think 20 years down the road, western countries can be tourist attractions on how civilizations can regress due to its own hubris.

    • @Unepic_Smurfman
      @Unepic_Smurfman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@gelinrefira lets hope there is a 20 years so much wars so much tension world might just snap and singapore isnt safe from the side effects of war

    • @henrylawson430
      @henrylawson430 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@gelinrefira sorry, but who is exhibiting hubris? You are! City states don't have a good track record of being around for a long time, as much as I love Singapore.

  • @Time4Peace
    @Time4Peace 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, great point about better communication with Singaporeans.
    Singapore needs to make information more available for public discussion to avoid that Brexit scenario.
    The information should not be just packaged to show how good the Sg government is but available as they are for alternative interpretation to show how it could be improved.

  • @dac8939
    @dac8939 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    UK and more so London, is an amazing place if you have $$$$. Buying nice apartment in London as luxury base and enjoying all entertainment of the city, food, good high paid finance job over $300k and flying to Europe and East US for sun is perfect. Ideal location to fly. Problem is gap between rich and poor. Also a lot of crime from immigrant groups that have managed to get to UK etc

  • @scottsanett
    @scottsanett 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who lived in HK for 7 years and left aftering getting a HK passport, I had to laugh when he said HK *used to be* a competitor.

  • @imitaridge9741
    @imitaridge9741 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every thing is relative and everyone is different. It all depends on what you want in life. They is no one answer.

  • @CLXH
    @CLXH 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stay, but be conscious about the tremendous stress, sacrifices and high price to pay for efficiency and safety.

  • @kevinkwok7626
    @kevinkwok7626 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    transparency/communication

  • @vernond3515
    @vernond3515 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Well I've lived in both London and Singapore and although he is right the MRT is better (than the underground in London) but London has freedom of expression which ultimately delivers more character.

    • @Jack-hy2ki
      @Jack-hy2ki 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      U said it as if sg does not have freedom of expression.
      We are free to express how we feel about anything. Except for race and religion.

    • @davidtay9347
      @davidtay9347 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes,they might had their priviledges but does that bring any of it in reality?The majorities of the Brits r suffering from some hefty inflation,housing crisis and other living issues.Does freedom of speech helps?

    • @sktoh4469
      @sktoh4469 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Jack-hy2ki Not anything lah. It's dangerous to publicly criticise the PM or a cabinet minister. They will sue and win everytime, or you could get locked up by the secret polis for years and years.

    • @Jack-hy2ki
      @Jack-hy2ki 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @sktoh4469 lol. Nope. U r wrong. We are definitely allowed to criticise and even scold our PM and all cabinet ministers. They are not gonna sue anyone who did that. Do u know there are opposition supporters Facebook groups and pages? Everyday they scold and criticise PM and ministers online. Even give them names. As long not defaming them, they will not sue anyone. No one has gotta arrested by ISD for criticizing and scold PM and ministers.
      So, don't spread fake information.

    • @tongfattho6913
      @tongfattho6913 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Freedom of expression... a mirage and lie overblown by the Western democracy to hide the fact that all that happens in politics are not for the people but for the politicians themselves for their own interests.

  • @navanillera
    @navanillera 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    bro took a fair bit to say that other countries dont respect lawrence wong

  • @commentatorxyz5514
    @commentatorxyz5514 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I lived in UK for 7 years. The big problem in the UK is they expect you to behave British, but when you behave so, they call you “that decent foreigner”. Thankfully I moved to Australia where you can display your birth country’s flag on your car/house.

    • @Ra-mx4bo
      @Ra-mx4bo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Uk is a boring & gloomy place. I've been to London once, not going there again.

    • @henrylawson430
      @henrylawson430 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      As an Aussie I am glad you feel that way.

    • @scottie934
      @scottie934 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You seem to appreciate western cultures nonetheless, they must give you something you’re missing.

    • @commentatorxyz5514
      @commentatorxyz5514 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scottie934 That's how the world is progressing. Westerners like Ringo Starr & Steve Jobs go to East and get something. We go to west and get something too.

    • @commentatorxyz5514
      @commentatorxyz5514 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ra-mx4bo London is boring? It depends on your experience. You haven't experienced their night-life, have you?

  • @ykchang7171
    @ykchang7171 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cannot be more true.

  • @arfaharipin5743
    @arfaharipin5743 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a returning Singaporean from the EU. And it’s true what he said

  • @outdoor75
    @outdoor75 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Asian tiger countries have great transport. I work 350km from where i live and i can get door to door in about 2 hours when i need to go to the office.

  • @foljs5858
    @foljs5858 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Yes, when you come to a country later in life, you're still an expat or foreigner in some sense. It's the difference between someone who was raised in that culture as a native, and someone who just came into it. The only exception is the US, where there's no national shared culture, except consumption, brands, pop culture, and a few holidays, so people mostly fit. And even there, in places with more native-ness you'd still be somewhat of a foreigner... you haven't been to the same school with anyone, played as kids with anyone, speak with the native accent as the rest, and so on

  • @penglim224
    @penglim224 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Give me good governance with safety and security, and law-abiding citizens who are peace-loving. Can anyone truly make informed decision without bias and self-interest?

  • @naymyo5503
    @naymyo5503 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He could well be a good politician one day.

  • @studboy2456
    @studboy2456 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can u interview Kurt Tay, Guolai and Teo EM? they certainly from another planets

  • @davidludford2164
    @davidludford2164 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am from London,London is finished because of mass immigration,the prisons are full of immigrants and the kids of immigrants,I have been married to a Thai for 37 years,and I never forget I am a GUEST in Thailand,so I always act like guest in Thailand and the 154 countries that I have visited, if I could afford it I would live in Singapore tomorrow

    • @tastyaffordabledelicious7391
      @tastyaffordabledelicious7391 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean, England shouldn’t have colonised and plunder those countries. It is now supporting US in doing the same thing. No one leaves their home unless they have to. Those people had to.

    • @noeminoemi1350
      @noeminoemi1350 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's because England colonized and looted half of the countries in the world, outside of Europe. It's probably karma paying back.

  • @prakashanpillai7487
    @prakashanpillai7487 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One's Mother land can never be a substituted to another foreign soil particularly India a land always above the material aspects of life however some may realise this only when they are at the door steps of R.I.P.

  • @christopheryim6618
    @christopheryim6618 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well said "Hong Kong USED to be a competitor" LOL

  • @CapDingo1975
    @CapDingo1975 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am sitting at T2 McDonalds. Watching this by myself and nodding at everything this guy says.

  • @pjs20thetube
    @pjs20thetube 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please you can literally open a bank account and start a company in the UK at the click of a button.

  • @tuppenceworth5485
    @tuppenceworth5485 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Many ethnic Chinese Singaporeans, like the Hong Kong protestors, have the impression that their former colonial masters would treat them differently from ethnic Chinese from other parts of the world if they settle in UK. Unless they have a tattoo on their foreheads proclaiming their origin, the natives cannot tell from visual appearance which part of the world they came from. Racism and discrimination were once rife in the UK. It was not uncommon to hear racial abuse in public. Following the rise of China, racism and discrimination have been tempered somewhat but these are just hidden beneath the surface. We saw that during the pandemic when an ethnic Chinese Singaporean student was attacked in the streets of London.

    • @excitedaboutlearning1639
      @excitedaboutlearning1639 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'm from a European country, and I'm part of the ethnic and linguistic majority.
      When I was a child there was quite a lot of discrimination in the school. Basically, it was whites vs. immigrants, but in the six years that we spent together, people started understanding each other and as a result, the ethnic divide disappeared.
      Many people, including myself for a long time, believe that racism is about slurs, but that's open racism/discrimination. The worst kind of discrimination is so subtle that you don't even "see" it. It's hidden in plain sight.
      It's assumptions about people's abilities based on a single interaction, their name or history of people of the same ethnic origin. I still catch myself assuming things from time to time.
      The second-class citizen feeling is such a real feeling. I have not felt it myself directly, but I heard stories about ot from my mom whose Dad had moved abroad to another European country in the 50's. He moved back, because his home country's labor situation changed and because he always felt like a second-class citizen.
      Different cultures mixing can bring about great things, but it sure is very difficult on the identity side of things.

    • @hieveryone2003
      @hieveryone2003 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Interesting. What we also have seen is dangerous racism here in Singapore. Ask *any* Malay or Indian here, and it's obvious how much racism and xenophobia exists just beneath the surface of the artifical social fabric here in Singapore. In fact, the issue of racism and xenophobia became such an issue that the Singapore government had to promulgated a new anti-racism law recently.

    • @Jack-hy2ki
      @Jack-hy2ki 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@hieveryone2003blame the opposition allowing and probably encouraging their supporters to be xenophobic and racist.
      The opposition supporters even created their own racist slur "CECA". When u see this word, u will know that person is an opposition supporters.

    • @jansg405
      @jansg405 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@Jack-hy2ki so if your daughter, girlfriend got raped and beaten you blame the opposition supporters lah😂

    • @jonathanchia9167
      @jonathanchia9167 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ok dude cap.@@hieveryone2003

  • @amyg1073
    @amyg1073 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👍👍👍❤❤❤

  • @nafridi1
    @nafridi1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If I'm Singaporean I'll never think of even visiting UK, Singapore is way ahead in all fields

    • @P53eud0nym05
      @P53eud0nym05 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Grass is always greener 😂 Especially if one is a SPG 😂😂😂😂

    • @Time4Peace
      @Time4Peace 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not advisable, my friend. Traveling and living overseas challenge your assumptions of things taken for granted, both good and bad.

    • @feralhamster2429
      @feralhamster2429 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      London has a lot of positive aspects that SG lacks and vice versa

  • @OrgKgTV
    @OrgKgTV 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But that chapper at 1:01 seems to show this is my hommy..am the godfathaamaa..

  • @clairepettitt7563
    @clairepettitt7563 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3 years in the UK is no more than a long extended holiday, you have barely settled. Do you really expect to be treated as a 1st class citizen in a foreign country? Singapore is home, indeed best to balek kampong my friend.

  • @jiti5034
    @jiti5034 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    All first generation migrants face this .. don't they.. even in Singapore? so what is the diff if Singaporean feels like a second class citizen in UK or Canada then to be fair can it be also said that a New Migrant to Singapore might feel the same? migration is a partnership both parties has to respect each other's contribution

    • @leenathayil2039
      @leenathayil2039 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Canada, the Caucasians are technically 2nd class citizen. The 1st class citizens are the indigenous people whom the Caucasians tried so hard to get rid of them. Read some history, please. The world has forgotten indigenous people in some of these so called 1st world class "western" countries!

  • @OppositionNeeded
    @OppositionNeeded 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the above is untrue, then people will surely wonder why then the government has little or nothing to address those problems since the SG Conversation took place and at the same time, if Forward Singapore would end up in the same manner.

    • @Jack-hy2ki
      @Jack-hy2ki 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only u oppies will wonder lah. Cos u guys either blind or selective to read news.
      Martin dude, u r very famous already for being a hardcore opposition supporters who has full of hate towards the gov and think changing the gov u will have a better life.
      U r same same as Roger poo, Philip and a few more.

  • @DuDerize
    @DuDerize 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The wise only need to travel for holiday and know that they wouldn't want to live elsewhere. Others who are slower to understand this need to live overseas for a few years etc.

  • @brandenongkp
    @brandenongkp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Look at Singapore as a whole package.

  • @iechuanlee9326
    @iechuanlee9326 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The main & most important character of LKY is incorruptible. The US CIA tried that in the past but LKY was brave enough to stay away.

  • @OppositionNeeded
    @OppositionNeeded 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Our politicians go out of their way to show they know the needs and worries of ordinary people.
    The irony is that the harder they try, the more apparent it is that they have become out of touch with realities on the ground.
    Can the Housing and Development Board (HDB) flat still be considered a golden nest egg?

    • @Jack-hy2ki
      @Jack-hy2ki 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry to say sg opposition r the one getting out of touch not only to the ordinary ppl of sg. But also lost touch to what's happening to the world.
      Maybe u Martin (with multiple accounts) should spend less time on line to comment here and there, smearing the gov here and there, spreading fake information here and there. But spend your time to upgrade yourself and give yourself a better life.

    • @stephenlim2852
      @stephenlim2852 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have never heard of the HDB being described as a golden nest egg

  • @handsomewong2469
    @handsomewong2469 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dude i do Not need to go to UK to know that 😂😂😂.Singapore is the best 👍👍👍