You only need to extend your PR if you're leaving the country so that you can comeback as a Resident. If you're not leaving the country, why need to worry???
Unfortunately, free NHS healthcare is based on residency and not citizenship. So if you live 6 more months outside the UK you can expect to not be covered (only emergency treatment would be free)
@@kotare86 Same for me, from Germany. I have lived here since 28 years. No free treatment in Germany. I am married to Singaporean. The only reason why I do not take citizenship i, because I will receive my retirement money from Germany, no matter where I live, and for as long as I keep my German passport. It's not much, since I did not accumulate too many work years in Germany. But I don't see why should I dismiss that money.
@@fil_britbunnyboi872 Yeah but also giving up the British citizenship doesn't mean she can't get free treatment on the NHS. Unlike SG, they don't discriminate against foreigners in the UK.
Finally a true local ang moh. She laid everything out so clearly regarding those who studied in the local schools + making friends with the local kids VS the expat Singaporeans who more or less only hung out in the expat circle. The ones from the previous interview didn't cut it, she definitely did.
I'm from the UK (born 1995). I got my drivers licence at 23, not 16 (minimum age is actually 17, unless you're a carer for a sick/disabled person, then you can be 16), and I first moved away from home to live and work in China when I was 24, and later Korea at 26, but currently at home and playing to return to China in a few months. In the UK, because you can bus, cycle, and walk places, a car isn't mandatory, but it is very helpful. It's borderline impossible to move out and be fully independent because of the cost right now. Some people do, but they are often miserable and penniless, unless they live with their partner or lots of friends, which is difficult for people who are alone or very independent. In London, it is genuinely impossible, unless you are immediately wealthy from a very white-collar professional job, usually university-educated. Perhaps for older people, they were forced out, because you could afford to do so, but not younger people. Parents generally understand the situation right now. After taxes, a minimum wage is £1,334 per month. Rent will be about half you wage, and everything else is eaten up by utilities, food, travel, phone bill, internet, and more. It sucks. Some people, like me, also enjoy staying with family. You get charged less (usually) and you always have company. I have a very good relationship with my parents, so I'm happy with my situation, though I would move out if I had a better salary. I always imagined Americans were forced to move out at 18, so it was interesting to hear someone say they thought that was normal for the UK, which it certainly isn't, especially in the modern world. I have friends who are in their 30s and still can't move out. I can't, and I pay my parents rent and food money (£400 a month), and I am able to save about £1000 per month because I'm a frugal miser.
Even in Australia, parents will push their children of the house when they turn 18. This is so totally different from Asians. Since the 90s, Singapore government always encourages 3 tiers families living close in proximity, if possible even in a 5 room flats where the young will take care of the elderly and in turn the grandparents can help to take care of grandchildren while the parents go to work. And if they can’t stay in the same flat, the young are encouraged to stay close to their parents . Young couples will receive more perks and $grants if they choose a flat near their parents. And most Asian parents would rather that their children stay with them and would never “chase” them out , unthinkable for asians to do that...
@@bell-xk5dd I significantly prefer Asia's family closeness. So beautiful. I also saw lots of families in China where mum and dad worked whilst grams and gramps cared for the kiddos. Sorry to hear about the situation in Oz. Big shame. I hate it when parents basically abandon their kids bcuz they're 18.
I am an American and it is generally normal for kids to leave at 18 back in the 90's and early '00s. Now, it is still common and the ideal, but there are a lot more kids staying home because everything is expensive.
I follow her on TikTok… she’s hilarious. I’d say she deserves to live here as long as she wants cos she’s really assimilated into the Singaporean culture unlike many expats who live a in bubble of their own in Singapore.
Plot twist: Daisy meets a nice Singaporean guy who’s not from ACS, gets a BTO and settles down here with her CPF after living overseas for a few years 😂 Great interview! Daisy is so funny and realistic, I love her energy!
Malaysian here, I have to say it is in the Asian culture for adults to live with their parents, especially if their uni/college or workplace is within the same city or place. There's a big tendency for parents here to treat their kids as kids even when they're adults really - I know friends who had trouble dating or spending the night out coz the parents would call and check why they're not home yet lol. In any case, moving out definitely will help you grow as a person - it gives you space to stretch and expand beyond the image and expectations of parents: anak soleh/good chinese boy/good hindu son/good christian etc
In Islam isnt it absolutely haram to interact with the opposite gender unnecessarily? If if you do go on get to know sessions you need a mahram chaperone or wali something like that
@@jeremyemilio9378 I did not say such things, and have merely quoted a line from a lagha fictional movie. Instead you have typed, with your fingers and own will, all the lines of fitnah against a respected Islamic scholar and other muslims. If you don't repent, then remember, the sin of fitnah is worse than murder - repent lest you end up in hellfire!
Hi Max, I've been watching your channel and really enjoy your videos. This one was my favorite so far. I'm from the U.S. and she sounds totally American and I loved this interview! I love her enthusiasm and upbeat attitude. She certainly has the right mindset. I have not traveled to Singapore yet but it's on my bucket list.
She’s clearly been assimilated into the Singapore culture based on her train of thoughts,her forward thinkingness and her ability plan her finances. This is the result of attending the local education system. She’s definitely the type of foreigner Singapore welcomes and is trying to attract to take up citizenship. But again if I’m in her shoes from a practical standpoint I will continue to maintain my SPR and British passport for flexibility purposes.
@@城邦寡人 come on you cant expect that from a non-native. If one can easily cut off her root, i dont think she can be a truthful person worth having. I trust she is one who can a bullet for SGP when time calls for. And that is good enough, how many locally born SGP can only KPKB, but...
These ST Pats boys never mixed with other genre of students back in my JC. I got a RI friend and he rarely says thank you. It is like he must always win and cannot be indebted to other people
@@Notsosmartyetnotsostupid it might just be that american accent would be easier for him to understand, and she said she uses the american accent when meeting people
I enjoyed this interview so much, Daisy is so mesmerizing to listen to, soo interesting to hear her perspective, her way of sharing her thoughts and experiences, and expressing herself, really appreciate her open and honest answers and I surely l enjoy her sense of humour. Ok, I just Iove this Daisy girl. And from a girl to another girl -Daisy, you are wonderful, would love to see more content with her!
The fact she's keeping the UK passport as a hedge to get medical coverage in a future possibility of disaster is the definition of kiasu (and also forward planning) She's already Singaporean! 😂
@@城邦寡人 I'm sorry for what ever happened to you to make you so bitter - that said everyone makes the best of the circumstances they're given, and she's making the best of hers.
Nah it's typical British behavior. Just like how they abandoned the island when the Japanese arrived, shes ready to fly home at the first sight of trouble.
@@bmno.4565 I think you need to re read your history man. They surrendered and arguably did a bad to shameful job defending malaya but they didn't run - they were interned and most had to endure death marches and all those horrors
Respect her decision. It’s her own life. She takes charge of it and not anyone else. You are not going to be responsible for her life. Anyway, I moved out from my parents when I was 21 for a couple of years to put up in a HDB 3 room flat by myself. Only shifted back when they needed me. Great experiences.
So great to hear someone have the same accent management/control. I’ve also been here for 20 years but went to international school. All my friends are somewhat similar, Singternational 😅 Went through many accent phases (dad Australian, mum Indonesian, school mostly American, ex boyfriend British). I at some point chose the American accent as my main accent as I was confusing myself (& others) with my identity but can pull out Singlish as & when necessary 😂
What people do not realise about the NHS is that it has reciprocal agreements in several countries. She doesn't need to fly to UK to access it. She can fly to Australia and be treated free. As an example.
She has CPF , so why doesn’t she join the insurance medishield life, which will practically cover every major surgery or hospitalisation in Singapore? She’s PR and she’s entitled to at least 40 to 50% subsidies for treatment at any governmental hospitals or clinics. If you were to do a search online, you’ll know that Singapore healthcare system is ranked 2nd top in the world since 2018 and by now should be 1st...rich foreigners from nearby countries like Indonesia, Australia, Philippines, India would come to Singapore for treatment.
I have a friend who just had surgery done on her intestines, some sort of cancer. She received a bill for $33,000 but was totally covered by medishield life. She didn’t have to pay a single cent. And she’s recovering well now.
@@johnchua9387 You have to live in the UK to be entitled to free healthcare. It is the same with university, unless you are resident in the UK you can't access student loans if you don't live here. Having a British passport is meaningless if you live abroad. It's all down to residency. (However, some emergencies can be free)
Singaporean children whether living with parents or not do pay a certain amount of their earnings to help support the family but we don't call it rent.
Actually she hit the nail, why the need for a citizenship or pr for that matter. When most of the "expat" you interviewed can easily get a long term work pass here. And to be honest, Singapore is only good as long as you have the cash......or good job.
Nah you just gotta live like a local to enjoy SG long term. I live in HDB and am basically half singaporean now... that said i do understand why young Singaporeans want to experience living overseas as its small and stuffy for a young person and they need to spread their wings
The answer is usually that most expats who come to Singapore do not assimilate into Singaporean culture very much. They stay in their bubble Considering that Singapore is not really a country where you can go up to strangers and talk friendly with them, it’s easy to never interact with the culture at all even though you live there. I’ve struggled with this a lot as well because I’m an expat who lived in SG since birth. I feel very connected to Singapore because I’ve also been through local school but I can’t really say that I’m Singaporean.
As someone who is born in Indonesia raised in Bangkok for 14 years and lived in singapore for 9 years i can relate you. My dad is singaporean my mom is javanese indon. I agree about not dating boys for ACS and St Pats HAHAH. So although im singaporean, its still a foreign country to me i feel like. I could never engage in conversation about the school system in singapore cuz i grew up overseas. But give yourself a year you would instantly catch that addictive accent hahaha
Without factoring in friendliness, Singaporean friend groups probably don't want to make friends with other groups because its not sustainable, imagine trying to make new friends basically every weekend with people you may not have anything in common with. But if you're an expat, there aren't that many of you and you also don't have your old family and friend networks, its attractive to build new bonds with new people in a new place.
woo, this guys questions are so well formed, you really are unafraid to ask alllll the good questions that we're surprised you even know to ask, congrats man
Daisy, whoever marries you would be very lucky. You sound like an open minded, high reasoning person who can resolve conflicts with humour and logic. You call out things for what it is yet able to see the positives in every situation. I am pretty sure you would marry well, you do not have to worry about healthcare and what not in your old age.😊
yeah same in malaysia here like the chinese here live with their parents even after marriage. it's a chinese thing especially if they run a business like a restaurant or a grocery store like they would just live upstairs on the 2nd floor too coz it's just so convenient.
I’m a third culture kid in Singapore. I’m wasian, mixed Thai and American. But I don’t really have connections to those cultures. For me, I went through the local school system for the entirety of primary school. It was pretty developmental for me and I have many local school friends still. But once I was put into international school. I had an identity crisis because I suddenly no longer felt Singaporean enough. It was very weird to be with expats who kind of lived in a bubble and didn’t engage with the culture. I have this really deep kind of fear that because most people perceive me as white, if I said I was Singaporean or tried to use local slang, they would think I was crazy, or worse they would think I’m one of those trans racial people who fetishize Asian culture. Most people don’t even expect that I can speak Chinese to them. This is a really deep fear for me, because it seems like the way I speak or talk is not good enough to be local and sounds too angmo. It has kept me away from speaking Singlish (when I was in local school, I spoke with some Singlish intonations, but I don’t anymore) or using local slang. I still don’t really know who I am, how I should speak or what I’m supposed to be doing, but this video gave me some catharsis. Thank you for sharing . It’s nice to know I’m not alone
Not actually surprised that she retains her British citizenship. Singaporean citizenship doesn't allow multiple citizenship for adults from ages 18 and onwards.
From her talk of CPF, how much she's contributed to medisave, the age she can withdraw, free healthcare in UK etc, one can tell she's really given citizenship a lot of consideration. Even though she giving off that carefree vibe, I really hope something/someone will push her over the edge in future & follow her heart & click "Submit"
When a Caucasian speak Hokkien / Canto and swearing in the dialect. We love It. Either if they understand what they are saying or not don’t understand what they are saying. Is always Fun.
i dont think singaporeans dislike foreigners by default. They only dislike those that portray themselves as higher class than the locals or don't follow rules and customs here
Honestly if I were of foreign origin like her, regardless of how long Ive lived in SG or even born here I will choose to retain original citizenship and take SG PR ESPECIALLY if I am originally from Europe/US/Korea/Japan.... PR and Citizen for SG not much difference... I didnt understand why when I was younger but now I am >21yrs I realised that its simply better to have choices and If i can benefit from both sides why not? Esp if i am able to migrate to sg must be ok rich so even if from developing country have 1citizenship1PR also good 😅
It's might be difficult to move back to UK at an older age and be accustomed living there since one didn't grow up there. Would suggest maybe can go to UK and work for a few years to see which is more suitable. 😊
forcing people to move out early when they're unsettled and not making much just creates such a long cycle of struggle and being broke and relying on luck to ever make enough money to settle down and be a home owner
Not to hate or malice intended, but as a singaporean, her choice to not get citizenship after all of what she said thats good about singapore and identifying as a citizen herself somehow just irks me, sounds borderline insulting for some reason.
something I spoke about that wasn’t included in the video was how my thoughts on being a citizen would change if I could vote as a PR. something about the fact “permanent residence” isn’t permanent, and that PRs have absolutely 0 input in the political landscape, and my voice and vote will never impact the direction of this country, irks ME. Right now, I have no interest becoming a citizen of a country that does not believe in equal rights for the lgbtq+ community.
@@TheMoustachedunicorn oh wow certainly didnt expect you to respond! Again not to hate, just voicing out my immediate thoughts/reactions about what was said in the video. whether you choose to be a citizen or not,for whatever reason and views you have, certainly doesnt affect me in any practical way and you do have the right to decide and make your own choice which i respect. Frankly if i were in your shoes i may also choose to do the same. Its interesting because its more of me trying to understand myself and rationalise why i feel this certain way about what you had said in the video, and i think it boils down to these points 1. envy / jealousy - what you mentioned about withdrawing your CPF and having free healthcare makes sense logically, but what makes it irksome to me is perhaps it makes it apparent that it is a privilege / advantage / option that you have that is not available to us Singaporeans. When you claim to be "practically Singaporean" but actually you have this extra thing, just instinctively feels unfair and implicitly you are "better off" than just being a Singaporean (even if thats not what you had intended)... idk if that makes sense and if i am expressing myself coherently, it is probably just irritating to me that i cannot do the same lah hahaha 2. hypocrisy / sense of entitlement / appearing ungrateful - in the video you talk about your tiktok series about "this is why you should be given citizenship" and your bali passport story; so you are making content about it and feeling certain ways about it, but then when comes down to it actually you dont want it? its like a cognitive dissonance moment for me i guess. Sounds a bit entitled and snobbish like "oh i DESERVE this, but actually even if you GIVE me, i dont want lah (because i am better/smarter than that?)", And also it kinda assumes that it is our mistake that we didnt hand you a citizenship, just feels like you are unnecessarily maligning the state when reality is you never apply how we give bro hahaha and also from what you wrote in your reply, another way to say it is - it seems like you dont want to be a citizen because Singapore is not "good enough" for you. Even after ALL that you benefited from being in SG (as you said e.g. public infrastructure, schools, safe environment) these are still not good enough just because of LGBT issues, free healthcare elsewhere, and CPF can withdraw-- it just comes across as disproportionate and ungrateful (even though i dont think you are) and actually i dont really understand what you wrote about the voting part, you do not want to be a citizen because as a PR you cannot vote? huh? if you want to have input in the political landscape then all the more you should want to be a citizen, no? if it were changed so that you could vote as a PR, then how would that change your views on being a citizen, wouldnt you be less incentivised to be a citizen then? Again wanna stress that im not saying this to offend/hate/dismiss, just sharing how it came across to me - these feelings are probably born out of my own insecurities tbh lolol cheers
Free healthcare is possible because of the high taxes people pay. The money has to come from somewhere. There should have some rules and regulations for peeps like Daisy whom, and I am assuming, has not contributed any taxes in the UK... On topic relating to friends, I'd have 2 categories - 1. Friend, 2. Acquaintances. Friends are peeps whom you share more intimately about things while acquaintances may just be someone you knew for an occasion and are in things together to get it done with. So to call someone a friend, is gonna take more than that.
I suspect some other issues why she won't apply for citizen. Sad the reason is due to crapphy NHS.. when she's young so can get insurance and financial plan.
This part I don’t believe her. She’s PR, so she’s entitled to subsidies for medical treatments, though not as much as a citizen but at least 40 to 50% . And she can try to buy some health insurance, which doesn’t cost much since she’s young.
You’re right, there is another reason that I discussed but wasn’t included in the video. Moreso to do with PRs not being able to vote. I feel like my voice doesn’t matter and I can’t actually contribute towards the direction of my country. It’s discouraging. I can only be a part of the change if I become a citizen, but I do not want to relinquish my future to the government.
@@TheMoustachedunicorn You have to understand a PR is still as foreigner, only allowed to stay from 5 years to 5 years based on approval from Singapore immigration. This is why PRs are not allowed to vote. Singapore is not your country until you possess a pink NRIC....
Some people get PR too easily in Singapore , but many spouses of Singapore citizens have no chance of getting PR , only LTVP , and that will be a major problem when the Singapore citizen retires and cannot sponsor his/her spouse , the family will have to leave Singapore . Around 30% of marriages in Singapore are to foreigners , so there will be major problems in the future.
She move to Singapore from the UK when she was 5 and has lived there till now and sounds American. I didn't smoke anything in particular but...anyways, it is what it is.
@@robbos8486 if you’re not local or attended classes in speech/accents, it ain’t gonna be real anyhow. She gets her msg across, why hung up about accents? 😅
If you pay close attention to the key points that she brings out, but tried to brush them away with laughter to avoid getting cancelled. Dating life is hard if you are looking for folks with independent thinking. Ppl who have lived long ebough still dont get PR. Ppl stay with their parents till even their 30s as its convenient without realising they will never develop independent thinking. Locals dont expand their circle usually. Again, all her points..😅
I am working in an MNC for past decade. The expats i knew earns like $8k to $12k a mth depending on their ranks. It is impossible to hang out with them coz their spendings are literally sky high. And i feel like a pauper coz i only spend on coffee for my meet ups. LOL. Bear in mind that for expat packages, their accommodations are mostly paid for by the co.
Honestly speaking if I were her and not yet a Singaporean, I'd also think twice about becoming one. Singapore used to allow citizens to withdraw all their cpf upon reaching 55, but because of some stupid jikopek uncle who lost their life savings to the china prostitutes, the govt implemented new rule of monthly cpf withdrawal for retirement. Not every singaporean doesn't know or need to be told on how to use their own money.
Those chikopeks who lost their entire CPF savings will eventually end up as social burdens to other taxpayers and the government, so government did the right thing....split it up to 55, 60, 62 just to be safe...
It's just an excuse to blame it on a small minority of chikopeks. The fact is every country with an aging population is facing an increasing burden on their pension systems so the retirement age and pension payouts get pushed further.
In the year 2000 when I came to Singapore I went to a coffee shop and order "black coffee with ice" and I paid 1.20, then I asked my wife... how to say in local language... "Kopi o kosong peng"... same coffee shop and i paid 80c !!!
So she’d fly all the way to UK & back just to get free treatments? The inconvenience, air tix etc, I think sg would be cheaper tho if she’s Singaporean. Also, sometimes big illnesses hit suddenly & quickly, so she plans to pass in the UK & not somewhere she lived her whole life in?
PR is a very funny definition within Singapore context. It stands for permanent residence but there's nothing permanent about it because it needs to be renewed every five years and if you are out of luck (say, lost of job, etc), it can get cancelled. This is unlike other countries so called PR.
Australia's the same. PR is 5 years only, and there's criteria to be in Australia for x number of duration during the 5 years, in order for the PR to be renewed.
@@capy222b But Australian PR is permanent, if you stay in the country (work or not) and providing you do not get out of the country, you do not need to renew. The 5 year is for Return Resident Visa for going overseas.
What I hear is that NHS is ina bad shape. Extremely long queues to see a specialist doctor or to get treated for your ailment. It could be a year or more longer sometimes and yet get postponed closee to the date. Communication with hospitals have become really hard too. So it may not be that easy to go back and get treated that quickly. This is all about i have heard from people I know living in UK but not my experience.
It depends on where you live and what treatment you need. Most of the delay issues are centred around densely populated areas plus it's also a backlog from covid where all the appointments were delayed. I've seen reports of similar issues in other western countries and there's also the shortage of hospital staff across the world especially with inflation making it a less sustainable career so its harder to recruit new staff. I think the cultural differences between east and west of multigenerational living contribute a lot especially here in the UK since the NHS resources are getting strained by having to deal with a growing aging population a lot of whom live alone which isn't the best for health outcomes.
Did anybody ever told you that you will have a long wait to see a doctor and the hospitals are basically filled with Middle Eastern, East Europeans, Pakistanis, Indians and others. The system is under stress. The West can afford to pay for it due to the arbitrary rates of monetary exchange for countries that trade with the west. Conversely, if you do a medical procedure in the west it will be more expensive than doing it in an Asian country.
Further goes to prove that there is not enough of a good reason for someone with a top tier passport like a British passport to get a Singapore passport whereas there could be good motivation to do so for Chinese, Indians, Russians, Ukrainians etc.
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You only need to extend your PR if you're leaving the country so that you can comeback as a Resident. If you're not leaving the country, why need to worry???
For her not giving up her british passport due to medical coverage, THATS SO SINGAPOREAN!!!
Unfortunately, free NHS healthcare is based on residency and not citizenship. So if you live 6 more months outside the UK you can expect to not be covered (only emergency treatment would be free)
@@kotare86 thx for the info.
@@kotare86 Same for me, from Germany.
I have lived here since 28 years. No free treatment in Germany.
I am married to Singaporean. The only reason why I do not take citizenship i, because I will receive my retirement money from Germany, no matter where I live, and for as long as I keep my German passport. It's not much, since I did not accumulate too many work years in Germany. But I don't see why should I dismiss that money.
@@kotare86 you can still get NHS treatment as long as you promise you're moving back as a returning citizen
@@fil_britbunnyboi872 Yeah but also giving up the British citizenship doesn't mean she can't get free treatment on the NHS. Unlike SG, they don't discriminate against foreigners in the UK.
Finally a true local ang moh. She laid everything out so clearly regarding those who studied in the local schools + making friends with the local kids VS the expat Singaporeans who more or less only hung out in the expat circle.
The ones from the previous interview didn't cut it, she definitely did.
Doesnt have the Singlish accent though sadly
@@pavementpounder7502She can switch
I love how candid she is. And so Singaporean in her mindset and lifestyle.
She sounds completely American! its amazing she is able to control that growing up with british parents and singaporean friends!
I'm from the UK (born 1995). I got my drivers licence at 23, not 16 (minimum age is actually 17, unless you're a carer for a sick/disabled person, then you can be 16), and I first moved away from home to live and work in China when I was 24, and later Korea at 26, but currently at home and playing to return to China in a few months. In the UK, because you can bus, cycle, and walk places, a car isn't mandatory, but it is very helpful.
It's borderline impossible to move out and be fully independent because of the cost right now. Some people do, but they are often miserable and penniless, unless they live with their partner or lots of friends, which is difficult for people who are alone or very independent. In London, it is genuinely impossible, unless you are immediately wealthy from a very white-collar professional job, usually university-educated.
Perhaps for older people, they were forced out, because you could afford to do so, but not younger people. Parents generally understand the situation right now. After taxes, a minimum wage is £1,334 per month. Rent will be about half you wage, and everything else is eaten up by utilities, food, travel, phone bill, internet, and more. It sucks. Some people, like me, also enjoy staying with family. You get charged less (usually) and you always have company. I have a very good relationship with my parents, so I'm happy with my situation, though I would move out if I had a better salary.
I always imagined Americans were forced to move out at 18, so it was interesting to hear someone say they thought that was normal for the UK, which it certainly isn't, especially in the modern world. I have friends who are in their 30s and still can't move out. I can't, and I pay my parents rent and food money (£400 a month), and I am able to save about £1000 per month because I'm a frugal miser.
Even in Australia, parents will push their children of the house when they turn 18. This is so totally different from Asians. Since the 90s, Singapore government always encourages 3 tiers families living close in proximity, if possible even in a 5 room flats where the young will take care of the elderly and in turn the grandparents can help to take care of grandchildren while the parents go to work. And if they can’t stay in the same flat, the young are encouraged to stay close to their parents . Young couples will receive more perks and $grants if they choose a flat near their parents. And most Asian parents would rather that their children stay with them and would never “chase” them out , unthinkable for asians to do that...
@@bell-xk5dd I significantly prefer Asia's family closeness. So beautiful. I also saw lots of families in China where mum and dad worked whilst grams and gramps cared for the kiddos.
Sorry to hear about the situation in Oz. Big shame. I hate it when parents basically abandon their kids bcuz they're 18.
I am an American and it is generally normal for kids to leave at 18 back in the 90's and early '00s. Now, it is still common and the ideal, but there are a lot more kids staying home because everything is expensive.
i am in shenzhen
@@wallace6228 Do you like it?
I follow her on TikTok… she’s hilarious. I’d say she deserves to live here as long as she wants cos she’s really assimilated into the Singaporean culture unlike many expats who live a in bubble of their own in Singapore.
I love her TT also!
Hey, how can I find her on Tik Tok?
Not the same if you arrive as a privileged at 5 years old or as a worker at age 25, 35, 45 ..
Plot twist: Daisy meets a nice Singaporean guy who’s not from ACS, gets a BTO and settles down here with her CPF after living overseas for a few years 😂
Great interview! Daisy is so funny and realistic, I love her energy!
Could totally happen! 😂
Malaysian here, I have to say it is in the Asian culture for adults to live with their parents, especially if their uni/college or workplace is within the same city or place. There's a big tendency for parents here to treat their kids as kids even when they're adults really - I know friends who had trouble dating or spending the night out coz the parents would call and check why they're not home yet lol. In any case, moving out definitely will help you grow as a person - it gives you space to stretch and expand beyond the image and expectations of parents: anak soleh/good chinese boy/good hindu son/good christian etc
Agree!
In Islam isnt it absolutely haram to interact with the opposite gender unnecessarily? If if you do go on get to know sessions you need a mahram chaperone or wali something like that
@@jeremyemilio9378 it's like the saying: only a sith (or an idiot) deals in absolutes
@@dragonniz so that means you are calling learned sheikhs like assim Al Hakeem idiots in addition to other Muslims?
@@jeremyemilio9378 I did not say such things, and have merely quoted a line from a lagha fictional movie. Instead you have typed, with your fingers and own will, all the lines of fitnah against a respected Islamic scholar and other muslims. If you don't repent, then remember, the sin of fitnah is worse than murder - repent lest you end up in hellfire!
Westerner to Asia: “Expat”
Asian to Western countries: “Immigrant”
Hi Max, I've been watching your channel and really enjoy your videos. This one was my favorite so far. I'm from the U.S. and she sounds totally American and I loved this interview! I love her enthusiasm and upbeat attitude. She certainly has the right mindset. I have not traveled to Singapore yet but it's on my bucket list.
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She studied in American school
@@muggz73 - or watched many American shows/media.
I studied in local school. My accent was influenced by media / needing to be understood by my peers@@muggz73
She’s clearly been assimilated into the Singapore culture based on her train of thoughts,her forward thinkingness and her ability plan her finances. This is the result of attending the local education system. She’s definitely the type of foreigner Singapore welcomes and is trying to attract to take up citizenship. But again if I’m in her shoes from a practical standpoint I will continue to maintain my SPR and British passport for flexibility purposes.
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I am with you 100% 👍🇸🇬😂
@@城邦寡人 come on you cant expect that from a non-native. If one can easily cut off her root, i dont think she can be a truthful person worth having. I trust she is one who can a bullet for SGP when time calls for. And that is good enough, how many locally born SGP can only KPKB, but...
@@smling11ah yes she "cut off her root" unlike the native singaporians from 4500 BC which make up the majority of the population
These ST Pats boys never mixed with other genre of students back in my JC. I got a RI friend and he rarely says thank you. It is like he must always win and cannot be indebted to other people
Some people studied too much, know how to do sums, but not sure what to do as a human. If can invent Covid cure nevermind, if not .....
She sounded American rather than British tbh
Not sure if u watched the whole vid... she did mention she uses different accents with different ppl at 3:39 ~ 3:51...
@@StArLiTe5691 So Max sounds like an American? 😅
@@MErwin 😅😅 0:42 😅v😢very v it g 😢vt 突然兔兔体贴入微 vvnnn
@@Notsosmartyetnotsostupid it might just be that american accent would be easier for him to understand, and she said she uses the american accent when meeting people
Reckon she uses Brit accent with her parents
I enjoyed this interview so much, Daisy is so mesmerizing to listen to, soo interesting to hear her perspective, her way of sharing her thoughts and experiences, and expressing herself, really appreciate her open and honest answers and I surely l enjoy her sense of humour. Ok, I just Iove this Daisy girl. And from a girl to another girl -Daisy, you are wonderful, would love to see more content with her!
I had a great two years in Singapore. Fantastic people!
The fact she's keeping the UK passport as a hedge to get medical coverage in a future possibility of disaster is the definition of kiasu (and also forward planning)
She's already Singaporean! 😂
I would have done the exact same thing as her. Singaporeans value practicality above everything. 😂
@@城邦寡人 I'm sorry for what ever happened to you to make you so bitter - that said everyone makes the best of the circumstances they're given, and she's making the best of hers.
@@城邦寡人 OK man, cheers
Nah it's typical British behavior. Just like how they abandoned the island when the Japanese arrived, shes ready to fly home at the first sight of trouble.
@@bmno.4565 I think you need to re read your history man. They surrendered and arguably did a bad to shameful job defending malaya but they didn't run - they were interned and most had to endure death marches and all those horrors
Respect her decision. It’s her own life. She takes charge of it and not anyone else. You are not going to be responsible for her life. Anyway, I moved out from my parents when I was 21 for a couple of years to put up in a HDB 3 room flat by myself. Only shifted back when they needed me. Great experiences.
8:25 I laughed so hard at this. If she came up with this opinion by herself, this says she is Singaporean much more than being able to speak Singlish
She is sooo funny and so real, good to have caught this video.
So great to hear someone have the same accent management/control. I’ve also been here for 20 years but went to international school. All my friends are somewhat similar, Singternational 😅
Went through many accent phases (dad Australian, mum Indonesian, school mostly American, ex boyfriend British). I at some point chose the American accent as my main accent as I was confusing myself (& others) with my identity but can pull out Singlish as & when necessary 😂
What people do not realise about the NHS is that it has reciprocal agreements in several countries. She doesn't need to fly to UK to access it. She can fly to Australia and be treated free. As an example.
Oh nice
She has CPF , so why doesn’t she join the insurance medishield life, which will practically cover every major surgery or hospitalisation in Singapore? She’s PR and she’s entitled to at least 40 to 50% subsidies for treatment at any governmental hospitals or clinics.
If you were to do a search online, you’ll know that Singapore healthcare system is ranked 2nd top in the world since 2018 and by now should be 1st...rich foreigners from nearby countries like Indonesia, Australia, Philippines, India would come to Singapore for treatment.
I have a friend who just had surgery done on her intestines, some sort of cancer. She received a bill for $33,000 but was totally covered by medishield life. She didn’t have to pay a single cent. And she’s recovering well now.
Entitlement to free NHS treatment is based on residency not UK citizenship or even paying UK taxes or contributions
@@johnchua9387 You have to live in the UK to be entitled to free healthcare. It is the same with university, unless you are resident in the UK you can't access student loans if you don't live here. Having a British passport is meaningless if you live abroad. It's all down to residency. (However, some emergencies can be free)
Singaporean children whether living with parents or not do pay a certain amount of their earnings to help support the family but we don't call it rent.
Yes that’s what I’ve heard as well from my Singaporean friends
@@MaxChernovIt is an expression of gratitude, Chinese culture and Confucianism
Love this girl's energy. ❤️
Actually she hit the nail, why the need for a citizenship or pr for that matter. When most of the "expat" you interviewed can easily get a long term work pass here. And to be honest, Singapore is only good as long as you have the cash......or good job.
Nah you just gotta live like a local to enjoy SG long term. I live in HDB and am basically half singaporean now... that said i do understand why young Singaporeans want to experience living overseas as its small and stuffy for a young person and they need to spread their wings
Lovely chat, Max!!
Question, why is she considered an "expat" and not an "immigrant" ? (Considering that she lives permanently in Singapore)
The answer is usually that most expats who come to Singapore do not assimilate into Singaporean culture very much. They stay in their bubble
Considering that Singapore is not really a country where you can go up to strangers and talk friendly with them, it’s easy to never interact with the culture at all even though you live there.
I’ve struggled with this a lot as well because I’m an expat who lived in SG since birth. I feel very connected to Singapore because I’ve also been through local school but I can’t really say that I’m Singaporean.
As someone who is born in Indonesia raised in Bangkok for 14 years and lived in singapore for 9 years i can relate you. My dad is singaporean my mom is javanese indon. I agree about not dating boys for ACS and St Pats HAHAH. So although im singaporean, its still a foreign country to me i feel like. I could never engage in conversation about the school system in singapore cuz i grew up overseas. But give yourself a year you would instantly catch that addictive accent hahaha
Aww it ended too quickly. Lovely guest and episode.
Without factoring in friendliness, Singaporean friend groups probably don't want to make friends with other groups because its not sustainable, imagine trying to make new friends basically every weekend with people you may not have anything in common with. But if you're an expat, there aren't that many of you and you also don't have your old family and friend networks, its attractive to build new bonds with new people in a new place.
U sure? Nowadays there seems to be lesser locals and more foreigners here🤔
@@kelvincheng5901 They don't typically have their parents and extended family in the country though.
woo, this guys questions are so well formed, you really are unafraid to ask alllll the good questions that we're surprised you even know to ask, congrats man
Daisy, whoever marries you would be very lucky. You sound like an open minded, high reasoning person who can resolve conflicts with humour and logic. You call out things for what it is yet able to see the positives in every situation. I am pretty sure you would marry well, you do not have to worry about healthcare and what not in your old age.😊
Another great interview, bro. Thanks and well done!
Hey Daisy!
Do you speak Mandarin or Malay since you went to a local school in Singapore?
Like her down to earth attitude and the S'porean influences on her life - pragmatic.
Was that an "aiyo" I heard @ 1:43 😂 Watched so many of your videos with your thick accent, the sudden singlish caught me off guard
I love the way she swore in Singlish, classic :D
quite intriguing and educative.
yeah same in malaysia here like the chinese here live with their parents even after marriage. it's a chinese thing especially if they run a business like a restaurant or a grocery store like they would just live upstairs on the 2nd floor too coz it's just so convenient.
I’m a third culture kid in Singapore. I’m wasian, mixed Thai and American. But I don’t really have connections to those cultures.
For me, I went through the local school system for the entirety of primary school. It was pretty developmental for me and I have many local school friends still.
But once I was put into international school. I had an identity crisis because I suddenly no longer felt Singaporean enough. It was very weird to be with expats who kind of lived in a bubble and didn’t engage with the culture.
I have this really deep kind of fear that because most people perceive me as white, if I said I was Singaporean or tried to use local slang, they would think I was crazy, or worse they would think I’m one of those trans racial people who fetishize Asian culture. Most people don’t even expect that I can speak Chinese to them. This is a really deep fear for me, because it seems like the way I speak or talk is not good enough to be local and sounds too angmo.
It has kept me away from speaking Singlish (when I was in local school, I spoke with some Singlish intonations, but I don’t anymore) or using local slang.
I still don’t really know who I am, how I should speak or what I’m supposed to be doing, but this video gave me some catharsis. Thank you for sharing . It’s nice to know I’m not alone
After living by myself for almost 10 years, I now prefer to move back and live with my family. The feeling was especially strong during Covid CB.
Very interesting interview. Being a western single woman in Singapore is tough. Very small dating pool.
And very small d***, I feel you!
Not actually surprised that she retains her British citizenship. Singaporean citizenship doesn't allow multiple citizenship for adults from ages 18 and onwards.
I wouldn't believe she's British or Singaporean at first. I'd think she's American or Canadian.
She is great no doubt. Hope she changes her mind 1 day and take up citizenship here.
From her talk of CPF, how much she's contributed to medisave, the age she can withdraw, free healthcare in UK etc, one can tell she's really given citizenship a lot of consideration. Even though she giving off that carefree vibe, I really hope something/someone will push her over the edge in future & follow her heart & click "Submit"
Even a Singaporean will think about free healthcare. And UK give that.
When a Caucasian speak Hokkien / Canto and swearing in the dialect.
We love It.
Either if they understand what they are saying or not don’t understand what they are saying.
Is always Fun.
if its the other way round, I think we are finding trouble.
i dont think singaporeans dislike foreigners by default. They only dislike those that portray themselves as higher class than the locals or don't follow rules and customs here
9:13 What kind of hello was that?
She is SMART and SAVVY , that's why !!
This interviewee is super funny!!!!
You do know that getting a Singapore citizenship means giving up your other citizenship?
Born in the 🇬🇧 with 🇬🇧 parents, raised in 🇸🇬, … but speaks with an 🇺🇸 accent??? 🤷🏻♂️. Truly a “third culture kid”! 😂
Honestly if I were of foreign origin like her, regardless of how long Ive lived in SG or even born here I will choose to retain original citizenship and take SG PR ESPECIALLY if I am originally from Europe/US/Korea/Japan.... PR and Citizen for SG not much difference...
I didnt understand why when I was younger but now I am >21yrs I realised that its simply better to have choices and If i can benefit from both sides why not? Esp if i am able to migrate to sg must be ok rich so even if from developing country have 1citizenship1PR also good 😅
Great personality, love her❤
Word of warning .....No Free Health Care in U.K if you have been Non Resident for many years.
This guy expat is very impressive speak Chinese & Malay as part of his integration to his new country singapore 👍❤
You mean this immigrant guy is very impressive, right?
It's might be difficult to move back to UK at an older age and be accustomed living there since one didn't grow up there.
Would suggest maybe can go to UK and work for a few years to see which is more suitable. 😊
I love the way she spoke Ka ni na! 🤣🤣😂Bravo, hahaha 👍👍👍. Is she still single available, i will like to meet her in person
U can still keep your PR status and still get married to a local. Best of both world because as a family u still get all the goodies from the Govt.
I don’t want to get married or settle here, and that’s okay.
forcing people to move out early when they're unsettled and not making much just creates such a long cycle of struggle and being broke and relying on luck to ever make enough money to settle down and be a home owner
It'd be worthwhile to interview Georgia Caney. She is a Brit living in Singapore for a while now.
she’s moved to bali!
i lived in singapore for a longer time,,40 years to be precise.,my ex spouse /kids and grandchildren were all born in singapore
I am not surprised!
All I can say is she is.....smart!...Same as those who are PR over the causeway!😆😆😆😆😆
Not to hate or malice intended, but as a singaporean, her choice to not get citizenship after all of what she said thats good about singapore and identifying as a citizen herself somehow just irks me, sounds borderline insulting for some reason.
something I spoke about that wasn’t included in the video was how my thoughts on being a citizen would change if I could vote as a PR. something about the fact “permanent residence” isn’t permanent, and that PRs have absolutely 0 input in the political landscape, and my voice and vote will never impact the direction of this country, irks ME.
Right now, I have no interest becoming a citizen of a country that does not believe in equal rights for the lgbtq+ community.
@@TheMoustachedunicorn oh wow certainly didnt expect you to respond! Again not to hate, just voicing out my immediate thoughts/reactions about what was said in the video. whether you choose to be a citizen or not,for whatever reason and views you have, certainly doesnt affect me in any practical way and you do have the right to decide and make your own choice which i respect. Frankly if i were in your shoes i may also choose to do the same. Its interesting because its more of me trying to understand myself and rationalise why i feel this certain way about what you had said in the video, and i think it boils down to these points
1. envy / jealousy - what you mentioned about withdrawing your CPF and having free healthcare makes sense logically, but what makes it irksome to me is perhaps it makes it apparent that it is a privilege / advantage / option that you have that is not available to us Singaporeans. When you claim to be "practically Singaporean" but actually you have this extra thing, just instinctively feels unfair and implicitly you are "better off" than just being a Singaporean (even if thats not what you had intended)... idk if that makes sense and if i am expressing myself coherently, it is probably just irritating to me that i cannot do the same lah hahaha
2. hypocrisy / sense of entitlement / appearing ungrateful - in the video you talk about your tiktok series about "this is why you should be given citizenship" and your bali passport story; so you are making content about it and feeling certain ways about it, but then when comes down to it actually you dont want it? its like a cognitive dissonance moment for me i guess. Sounds a bit entitled and snobbish like "oh i DESERVE this, but actually even if you GIVE me, i dont want lah (because i am better/smarter than that?)", And also it kinda assumes that it is our mistake that we didnt hand you a citizenship, just feels like you are unnecessarily maligning the state when reality is you never apply how we give bro hahaha
and also from what you wrote in your reply, another way to say it is - it seems like you dont want to be a citizen because Singapore is not "good enough" for you. Even after ALL that you benefited from being in SG (as you said e.g. public infrastructure, schools, safe environment) these are still not good enough just because of LGBT issues, free healthcare elsewhere, and CPF can withdraw-- it just comes across as disproportionate and ungrateful (even though i dont think you are)
and actually i dont really understand what you wrote about the voting part, you do not want to be a citizen because as a PR you cannot vote? huh? if you want to have input in the political landscape then all the more you should want to be a citizen, no? if it were changed so that you could vote as a PR, then how would that change your views on being a citizen, wouldnt you be less incentivised to be a citizen then?
Again wanna stress that im not saying this to offend/hate/dismiss, just sharing how it came across to me - these feelings are probably born out of my own insecurities tbh lolol cheers
Free healthcare is possible because of the high taxes people pay. The money has to come from somewhere.
There should have some rules and regulations for peeps like Daisy whom, and I am assuming, has not contributed any taxes in the UK...
On topic relating to friends, I'd have 2 categories - 1. Friend, 2. Acquaintances.
Friends are peeps whom you share more intimately about things while acquaintances may just be someone you knew for an occasion and are in things together to get it done with.
So to call someone a friend, is gonna take more than that.
Daisy will need to have a residency period in the UK first, before free healthcare kicks in.
I suspect some other issues why she won't apply for citizen. Sad the reason is due to crapphy NHS.. when she's young so can get insurance and financial plan.
This part I don’t believe her. She’s PR, so she’s entitled to subsidies for medical treatments, though not as much as a citizen but at least 40 to 50% . And she can try to buy some health insurance, which doesn’t cost much since she’s young.
You’re right, there is another reason that I discussed but wasn’t included in the video. Moreso to do with PRs not being able to vote. I feel like my voice doesn’t matter and I can’t actually contribute towards the direction of my country. It’s discouraging. I can only be a part of the change if I become a citizen, but I do not want to relinquish my future to the government.
@@TheMoustachedunicorn
You have to understand a PR is still as foreigner, only allowed to stay from 5 years to 5 years based on approval from Singapore immigration. This is why PRs are not allowed to vote. Singapore is not your country until you possess a pink NRIC....
Am PR in EU . As PR nvr thought I should be given the right to vote. If I want to vote I'd become their citizen
You are one of us, please apply for citizenship.
From the UK? How did you get that American accent?
Some people get PR too easily in Singapore , but many spouses of Singapore citizens have no chance of getting PR , only LTVP , and that will be a major problem when the Singapore citizen retires and cannot sponsor his/her spouse , the family will have to leave Singapore . Around 30% of marriages in Singapore are to foreigners , so there will be major problems in the future.
She move to Singapore from the UK when she was 5 and has lived there till now and sounds American. I didn't smoke anything in particular but...anyways, it is what it is.
Hahaha.. love this interview. As a local, I agree with her views about ACS, SP boys, n I wld add RI...
She has the most Valley girl accent for a British… Love it though . I love your videos!
Sounds fake, though
@@robbos8486 if you’re not local or attended classes in speech/accents, it ain’t gonna be real anyhow. She gets her msg across, why hung up about accents? 😅
@@impopquiz because adopting an American accent when you're clearly British, shows copy-cat personality.
Not good.
@@robbos8486Or you’re just projecting. Stfu. Accents ain’t that important.
@@robbos8486 quit judging, get a life dude.
You are us! Fellow Singaporean 🐾 my paws of endorsement! ❤️
If you pay close attention to the key points that she brings out, but tried to brush them away with laughter to avoid getting cancelled. Dating life is hard if you are looking for folks with independent thinking. Ppl who have lived long ebough still dont get PR. Ppl stay with their parents till even their 30s as its convenient without realising they will never develop independent thinking. Locals dont expand their circle usually. Again, all her points..😅
I am working in an MNC for past decade. The expats i knew earns like $8k to $12k a mth depending on their ranks. It is impossible to hang out with them coz their spendings are literally sky high. And i feel like a pauper coz i only spend on coffee for my meet ups. LOL. Bear in mind that for expat packages, their accommodations are mostly paid for by the co.
When she told me about her experience going to Bali and how she was very calculating with money, she had an Asian soul but a European body 😅
You obviously haven’t met Dutch people. Super careful with money….
@@Ccb88888 no, Chinese is number 1 😅How Chinese culture is very calculating with money even since childhood
She is smart: live like local people, draw salaries like expats.
Not true.
Honestly speaking if I were her and not yet a Singaporean, I'd also think twice about becoming one. Singapore used to allow citizens to withdraw all their cpf upon reaching 55, but because of some stupid jikopek uncle who lost their life savings to the china prostitutes, the govt implemented new rule of monthly cpf withdrawal for retirement. Not every singaporean doesn't know or need to be told on how to use their own money.
Those chikopeks who lost their entire CPF savings will eventually end up as social burdens to other taxpayers and the government, so government did the right thing....split it up to 55, 60, 62 just to be safe...
It's just an excuse to blame it on a small minority of chikopeks. The fact is every country with an aging population is facing an increasing burden on their pension systems so the retirement age and pension payouts get pushed further.
if it was a pr male, who had to serve the 2 years , will it still be the same take?
In the year 2000 when I came to Singapore I went to a coffee shop and order "black coffee with ice" and I paid 1.20, then I asked my wife... how to say in local language... "Kopi o kosong peng"... same coffee shop and i paid 80c !!!
Truly local style
Yea she sounds more like an American than a British.
She explains it at 3:40
So she’d fly all the way to UK & back just to get free treatments? The inconvenience, air tix etc, I think sg would be cheaper tho if she’s Singaporean. Also, sometimes big illnesses hit suddenly & quickly, so she plans to pass in the UK & not somewhere she lived her whole life in?
Totally agree w her!
Singaporean citizenship is okay…it depends for whom. It’s desirable for Chinese and Russians, not so much for Americans, Japanese or Europeans.
if you are from the UK and in trouble in another country you want their Ambassador helping you
So she was born in Britain, raised in Singapore, and sounds completely American 😂 Fascinating!
She is Singaporean no matter what when she knows singlish curse love her so Singaporean
haha.. I'm Singaporean and she sounds more local than I do!
I known many rich Singaporeans have migrated to Australia, NZ, etc, cos SG is too small nothing much they can do in SG although they are rich.
PR is a very funny definition within Singapore context. It stands for permanent residence but there's nothing permanent about it because it needs to be renewed every five years and if you are out of luck (say, lost of job, etc), it can get cancelled. This is unlike other countries so called PR.
Did you just zoom in from another planet? PR is the same everywhere, most countries only grant 5 years...
Australia's the same. PR is 5 years only, and there's criteria to be in Australia for x number of duration during the 5 years, in order for the PR to be renewed.
HK PR is much stronger.
@@capy222b But Australian PR is permanent, if you stay in the country (work or not) and providing you do not get out of the country, you do not need to renew. The 5 year is for Return Resident Visa for going overseas.
@@bell-xk5dd I don't think so.
KNN, What the hell CPF, BTO etc ...She so funny.... Chicken RIce > Fish & Chips....... In her case....Nice!!
I remember the first time I heard a white Bahamian guy speaking on the beach on my first time visiting there. It blew my mind.
Anyone know which @MaxChernov video they're referring to? would love to watch that
THE WAY I WAS LISTENING TO HER, SHE HAS AMERICAN ACCENT THAN BRITISH ACCENT
What I hear is that NHS is ina bad shape. Extremely long queues to see a specialist doctor or to get treated for your ailment. It could be a year or more longer sometimes and yet get postponed closee to the date. Communication with hospitals have become really hard too. So it may not be that easy to go back and get treated that quickly. This is all about i have heard from people I know living in UK but not my experience.
It depends on where you live and what treatment you need. Most of the delay issues are centred around densely populated areas plus it's also a backlog from covid where all the appointments were delayed. I've seen reports of similar issues in other western countries and there's also the shortage of hospital staff across the world especially with inflation making it a less sustainable career so its harder to recruit new staff. I think the cultural differences between east and west of multigenerational living contribute a lot especially here in the UK since the NHS resources are getting strained by having to deal with a growing aging population a lot of whom live alone which isn't the best for health outcomes.
Did anybody ever told you that you will have a long wait to see a doctor and the hospitals are basically filled with Middle Eastern, East Europeans, Pakistanis, Indians and others. The system is under stress. The West can afford to pay for it due to the arbitrary rates of monetary exchange for countries that trade with the west. Conversely, if you do a medical procedure in the west it will be more expensive than doing it in an Asian country.
Further goes to prove that there is not enough of a good reason for someone with a top tier passport like a British passport to get a Singapore passport whereas there could be good motivation to do so for Chinese, Indians, Russians, Ukrainians etc.
The Loophole is that PRs can withdraw their CPF. Locals can’t 😅
yes but if PRS return to Singapore for PR again they have to return the CPF with interest.
@@sweetsweet3753 still your money though. No lost.
only benefit take a look at the school fees😭its horrible. I swear the only benefit of pr is we get to stay here nothing else😭