Thumbs up. I wish Leather Machine Co. would have made a video like this when I bought mine from them. Instead I had to scour TH-cam for instruction from users. On the other hand, great purchase (expensive purchase - about $1800 for mine with shipping) that I have not regretted once. Makes skiving so much more consistent as well as quicker. I've sharpened mine about 3 times since purchase in 1/21, but I only use it about once a week.
Thank you for making a comprehensive video on this machine. The NP4 has changed the way I make things. It is my number 2 machine after the sewing machine. I sharpen very often, because I skive garment leather. I was told that it couldn't. It just requires exceptional sharpness. I have never felt the blade even slightly warm. After deburring, I noticed that the blade is slightly curled outward. I've tried different techniques to avoid it, but ... So, now, after deburring, I move the sharpening stone (power engaged) to barely touch the blade... no sparks, but you sound changes. I am shining a flashlight on the blade edge from above/ left (left shoulder ...) which highlights the curl. I continue for 10 to 20 seconds until the curl disappears. Sounds complicated, but it's easy, and quick. And super sharp.
As always, a great instructional video. Thanks for taking the time to make these. Newbies like myself would be up a creek without your advice and demonstrations of these machines.
🤯 this is the kind of thing that dreams are made of! after years and years of making wallets, never realized this is exactly what I need. Thank you for showing this, and adding to my must get list.
Just got mine yesterday! As per the norm with leather machine company it came with very little information on how to operate and adjust it. Your video just saved me hours of frustration!!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Aaron, this video is great. I’ve had the machine for 6 months and love it, but wish I had this knowledge when I first got it. Even watching other videos, they missed some of the things you touched on. Thanks!!!
Thankyou Aaron, i got mine in a couple of days ago and I was having troubles. I stopped in and Aaron took the time to help. Now it's running like a dream
Thanks you for this video. Most definitely one of the best NP4 videos out there.... Covered it all. concise and to the point. Will reference it for however long it take this old brain to consume and remember it.
Looking at getting this soon! Last year, I stumbled upon an ad for a retiring leather craftsman - he made goods for Armani, Gucci, and others. I bought a bunch of beautiful leather from him, and he gave me 5 big boxes of scraps big enough for my bag making and wallets. I have been using the thinner stuff like lamb with no problem, but I really need a skiver to use all of the beautiful thicker leather.
Thank for the tip and tricks . I got NP 10 at Prescott . Big learning curve . First thing I did was grin onto my blade with the rolling presser foot top side . I had used yours in class and loved it ! That was why I got one . I do wish I would have just went ahead and got the NP 4 instead of 10 .. hopefully down the road they will make video on the NP 10. I have been told it is the same a the 4 for adjustments.. So far it seems to be more involved due to the two rollers top and bottom . Anyone who gets either 4 or 10 needs to buy a couple of low grade sides to practice and get used to the machine . Thanks again .
Can you help? I knoe the NP4 is a "bottom feed" and the NP10 is a "Top and bottom feed". What does that mean? I don't want to call up Leather Machine and bother them. Thank you for any ones help!
I took a class in Prescott .sadly it was all about using the NP 4 Yani has done amazing things with custom feet . The NP 10 is more for BIG stuff Saddles etc Holsters
Perfect video. To the point. The only question is what adjustments do you have for bell cutter to presser foot clearance. Horizontal bell cutter adjustments. You started to talk about it that some adjustments are needed after sharpening but never covered that other back knob. Do you bring bell cutter right up to presser foot or do you like a certain clearance Thanks
The adjustment I am thinking of is you said in video that as the blade wears from sharpening you need to adjust it forward towards the foot. Till the blade just touch’s foot or do you like a 1/16 clearance.
Great video Aaron, I need to do some maintenance on mine. Question. If the bell knife needs to be moved forward from all the sharpening and wear. Do you just line it up to where it meets the outside bottom of the pressure foot?
Thank you for this video, it was very helpful. I have a different brand but would love if you wouldn't mind answering my question. When I start to skive a piece of leather, especially if it's a longer piece, I have to start skiving then stop and make sure the trim underneath isn't wrapping around the ball. Are there any adjustments you can think of to prevent that? Thank you.
Ive had that happen once or twice. I take the drawer that catches the scraps out and just let them fall straight down to the ground to try to help prevent it.
hey Aaron, very informative. I got mine all set up as per video but what would cause the leather to not pull through or slide through like yours does? I adjusted my presser foot lower and that didnt work. If I lift the presser foot up nd place the leather underneath it to start. I have to pull for it to move, still won't slide.
Aaron, can you please tell me how to go about increasing the speed for sharpening the blade and if you would know the normal skiving settings for skiving leather? I'm a little frustrated because I bought a Cobra NP4 machine and the Cobra Class 3 and at the time and I didn't get any instruction on the bell skiver at all so I called the company I bought it from and they can't tell me how to increase the speed or get any instructions for me. If you could help I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you so much
Two Questions can you skive the curve on that piece ? You skived all way around except the curve. And where does the scrap go ? As you can tell, i dont have one .
You can skive a concave or convex curve. The scrap falls into a little drawer under the table, but I do a ton of skiving so I take the drawer out and let the scrap fall on the floor to be swept up later.
I’d recommend leaving the presser foot up when not in use. It’s easy to forget and leave it down. The spring in there isn’t the greatest and gets weak.
I picked up a skiver the other day, seems identical to this but I noticed the feed ball rotates away from the cutter. Did someone put a belt on it wrong?
Every skiving machine I've ever seen is this exact machine, but with different paint or different name on it. Does only one company make this and then rebrand it to different sellers?
Aaron, What size/hp motor servo is on your machine I have a consew dcs4 machine I got used it has a 1/2hp clutch motor on it and honestly It dont have balls to skive the leather Do you have any recommendations for a motor?
Only a small portion of blade is open, I've been using one for years and honestly it's never been an issue for me or all the classes I've taught using them.
I cut myself once. I was trying to clean out some junk from between the blade and roller etc., not while it was running. So now I use a little pick tool to reach in there. Smarter, not harder!
As far as sharpening, your method makes sense, why in the world would you heat the metal , only to weaken it? Unless you just want to keep buying bell blades? 😂
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Thanks! I just set mine up today from Tandy leather. I've been dreaming about getting one for a couple years now. Thanks for the tips.
Holy moly this is EXACTLY the video I needed to work with my skiver. Thank you for the informative and instructional video.
Thumbs up. I wish Leather Machine Co. would have made a video like this when I bought mine from them. Instead I had to scour TH-cam for instruction from users. On the other hand, great purchase (expensive purchase - about $1800 for mine with shipping) that I have not regretted once. Makes skiving so much more consistent as well as quicker. I've sharpened mine about 3 times since purchase in 1/21, but I only use it about once a week.
Thank you for making a comprehensive video on this machine. The NP4 has changed the way I make things. It is my number 2 machine after the sewing machine.
I sharpen very often, because I skive garment leather. I was told that it couldn't. It just requires exceptional sharpness. I have never felt the blade even slightly warm.
After deburring, I noticed that the blade is slightly curled outward. I've tried different techniques to avoid it, but ... So, now, after deburring, I move the sharpening stone (power engaged) to barely touch the blade... no sparks, but you sound changes. I am shining a flashlight on the blade edge from above/ left (left shoulder ...) which highlights the curl. I continue for 10 to 20 seconds until the curl disappears. Sounds complicated, but it's easy, and quick. And super sharp.
As always, a great instructional video. Thanks for taking the time to make these. Newbies like myself would be up a creek without your advice and demonstrations of these machines.
🤯 this is the kind of thing that dreams are made of!
after years and years of making wallets, never realized this is exactly what I need. Thank you for showing this, and adding to my must get list.
Just got mine yesterday! As per the norm with leather machine company it came with very little information on how to operate and adjust it. Your video just saved me hours of frustration!!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Great video Aaron!! Thank you!! Can you also do a video of cleaning, oiling and greasing the skiver?
Great job! Concise and comprehensive!
Aaron, this video is great. I’ve had the machine for 6 months and love it, but wish I had this knowledge when I first got it. Even watching other videos, they missed some of the things you touched on. Thanks!!!
Thankyou Aaron, i got mine in a couple of days ago and I was having troubles. I stopped in and Aaron took the time to help. Now it's running like a dream
Thanks for this, simple and comprehensive. Helped me get my used machine up and rolling right!
Excellent presentation! I agree - best purchase I have made, for my shop. Kicked myself, for a long time, for waiting so long to buy one.
Thank you for this Aaron!!! Its my go to video for learning my skiver! Me n "Steve" are all dialed in!!
Thanks you for this video. Most definitely one of the best NP4 videos out there.... Covered it all. concise and to the point. Will reference it for however long it take this old brain to consume and remember it.
Looking at getting this soon! Last year, I stumbled upon an ad for a retiring leather craftsman - he made goods for Armani, Gucci, and others. I bought a bunch of beautiful leather from him, and he gave me 5 big boxes of scraps big enough for my bag making and wallets. I have been using the thinner stuff like lamb with no problem, but I really need a skiver to use all of the beautiful thicker leather.
Thank for the tip and tricks . I got NP 10 at Prescott . Big learning curve . First thing I did was grin onto my blade with the rolling presser foot top side .
I had used yours in class and loved it ! That was why I got one . I do wish I would have just went ahead and got the NP 4 instead of 10 .. hopefully down the road they will make video on the NP 10. I have been told it is the same a the 4 for adjustments.. So far it seems to be more involved due to the two rollers top and bottom .
Anyone who gets either 4 or 10 needs to buy a couple of low grade sides to practice and get used to the machine .
Thanks again .
Can you help? I knoe the NP4 is a "bottom feed" and the NP10 is a "Top and bottom feed". What does that mean? I don't want to call up Leather Machine and bother them. Thank you for any ones help!
I took a class in Prescott .sadly it was all about using the NP 4 Yani has done amazing things with custom feet . The NP 10 is more for BIG stuff Saddles etc Holsters
Boy, what wonderfully engineered machine. Only problem is Santa doesn't deliver it.
I have the techsew sk-4 and it's absolutely amazing I'd recommend these machines to anyone it makes skiving easy as 123 you cant go wrong
I live by Leather Machine company, and just bought one yesterday. I was telling them I been making your bags from your templates.
Just bought one and this helped a lot. Thank you!
Thank you so much for this! I am going to dial in my machine tomorrow.
Hey Aaron awesome video on the MP4 skiving machine awesome work always Aaron have a great day today in the shop Aaron and Janie Sue peace out Aaron!🇺🇸
Mine is being delivered in. 2 days. I can't wait!
Good info. I don't have one but I know someone that does and they've been try to figure out how it works. I'll suggest your video to them.
Thank you Aaron, I just obtained one of this and completely clueless. Lol
Post your questions here and I'm happy to help. Or you can call the store if needed.
Great video! Ready to use my skiver :) .
Thanks so much , this video helped out so much. keep it up.
Perfect video. To the point.
The only question is what adjustments do you have for bell cutter to presser foot clearance. Horizontal bell cutter adjustments. You started to talk about it that some adjustments are needed after sharpening but never covered that other back knob. Do you bring bell cutter right up to presser foot or do you like a certain clearance
Thanks
That depends on how thick you want the skived area to remain
The adjustment I am thinking of is you said in video that as the blade wears from sharpening you need to adjust it forward towards the foot. Till the blade just touch’s foot or do you like a 1/16 clearance.
@@miker794 ah! Yes! Adjust the bell toward the roller ball as the sharpening grinds it down
Very informative, thanks for the info.
Great video Aaron, I need to do some maintenance on mine. Question. If the bell knife needs to be moved forward from all the sharpening and wear. Do you just line it up to where it meets the outside bottom of the pressure foot?
About half a mm short of it.
great video how and where do you oil this machine
Thank you for this video, it was very helpful. I have a different brand but would love if you wouldn't mind answering my question. When I start to skive a piece of leather, especially if it's a longer piece, I have to start skiving then stop and make sure the trim underneath isn't wrapping around the ball. Are there any adjustments you can think of to prevent that? Thank you.
Ive had that happen once or twice. I take the drawer that catches the scraps out and just let them fall straight down to the ground to try to help prevent it.
What causes an inconsistent skive? Like super thin in some parts and hardly any off in others during the same pass?
A dull or improperly positioned blade (or both)
hey Aaron, very informative. I got mine all set up as per video but what would cause the leather to not pull through or slide through like yours does? I adjusted my presser foot lower and that didnt work. If I lift the presser foot up nd place the leather underneath it to start. I have to pull for it to move, still won't slide.
Either the blade is not sharp or the roller ball is dirty and not gripping
Aaron, can you please tell me how to go about increasing the speed for sharpening the blade and if you would know the normal skiving settings for skiving leather? I'm a little frustrated because I bought a Cobra NP4 machine and the Cobra Class 3 and at the time and I didn't get any instruction on the bell skiver at all so I called the company I bought it from and they can't tell me how to increase the speed or get any instructions for me. If you could help I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you so much
That's a lot to type. Call the store and ask for me. 254-300-1881 and ask for Aaron
Two Questions can you skive the curve on that piece ? You skived all way around except the curve. And where does the scrap go ? As you can tell, i dont have one .
You can skive a concave or convex curve. The scrap falls into a little drawer under the table, but I do a ton of skiving so I take the drawer out and let the scrap fall on the floor to be swept up later.
I’d recommend leaving the presser foot up when not in use. It’s easy to forget and leave it down. The spring in there isn’t the greatest and gets weak.
Thank you very much Aaron. Per usual, you were a tremendous help.
I picked up a skiver the other day, seems identical to this but I noticed the feed ball rotates away from the cutter. Did someone put a belt on it wrong?
The motor needs to be reversed. There's probably a setting for it.
@@makersleathersupply1220 I had to unplug the motor control for it to reset. The direction change is now working and I am practicing away. Thank you.
Every skiving machine I've ever seen is this exact machine, but with different paint or different name on it. Does only one company make this and then rebrand it to different sellers?
Theyre all copies of s Fortuna machine.
Aaron, What size/hp motor servo is on your machine I have a consew dcs4 machine I got used it has a 1/2hp clutch motor on it and honestly It dont have balls to skive the leather Do you have any recommendations for a motor?
Call the leather machine company and tell them what you have. They'll get you fixed up with the motor and speed reducer they use on theirs.
How do you keep from slicing your fingers? Looks dangerous to me.
Only a small portion of blade is open, I've been using one for years and honestly it's never been an issue for me or all the classes I've taught using them.
Its a self correcting mistake..Shake hands with danger
You won't make that mistake twice.
I cut myself once. I was trying to clean out some junk from between the blade and roller etc., not while it was running. So now I use a little pick tool to reach in there. Smarter, not harder!
Bottom feed vs combo feed, looking at making domed belts
I've never gotten along with a NP10 combo feed. I have made dozens of domed belts on one of these.
Veg tan, gator, elephant, oil tan, chrome tan, I skive everything on my SK-4
I love mine that I got from you🥰🥰🥰
Is there a reason why you went with this with over the np-10?
Yessir. Because in using a skiving machine for the last 5 years or so, I haven't needed the NP10
@@makersleathersupply1220 I listened to the manufacturer and ordered the np10 because I’ll do mostly veg tan. I wish I had seen this a few weeks ago.
As far as sharpening, your method makes sense, why in the world would you heat the metal , only to weaken it? Unless you just want to keep buying bell blades? 😂
You let customers play with the skiver? That's pretty risky. That machine can slice off finger tips with ease!
Can't expect someone to buy one if they've never tried it.
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