Overwatch: Torbjorn Before & After Rework

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Torbjörn
General
Reduced the size of Torbjörn’s head hit volume by 10%
Rivet Gun
Primary Fire
Projectile speed increased from 60 to 70 per second
Reload time reduced from 2.2 to 2 seconds
Turret targets enemy hit by primary fire
Alternate Fire
Recovery lowered from 0.8 to 0.6 seconds
Damage per shot lowered from 150 to 125
Reload time reduced from 2.2 to 2 seconds
Spread randomization readjusted
Forge Hammer
Radius increased to align with Quick Melee
Deploy Turret
Turret is now a thrown projectile
Automatically builds over three seconds
No longer has different levels
Same damage output as previous level 2 turret
Maximum health reduced from 300 to 250
Now incurs a 5 second cooldown when deployed
Now incurs a 10 second cooldown when destroyed in combat
No longer able to deploy a new turret if it’s in combat
While the turret is firing
If the turret has taken damage within three seconds
Can now be destroyed using the Interact input
Completes self-building once deployed, even if Torbjörn is eliminated
New Ability: Overload
Replaces Armor Pack
Lasts for 5 seconds
Cooldown is 12 seconds
Temporarily grants 150 armor
Increases attack, movement, and reload speeds by 30%
New Ultimate: Molten Core
Switches weapon from Rivet Gun to his claw arm
Lasts 6 seconds
Fire up to 10 molten globules that create damage pools where they land for 10 seconds
Globules bounce off walls and ceilings until they hit the ground
Base damage is 130
Damage increases from 130 to 190 against enemies who have armor
Heroes affected by armor: Bastion, Brigitte, D.Va, Orisa, Reinhardt, Torbjörn, Winston, Wrecking Ball
Heroes who can grant armor to their allies: Brigitte

[@jerrybarnhouse4050]

Miss the old torb. He was much cooler as a builder.

[@ejej_shej7958]

Yeah none of his abilities really synergize with each other. I guess they were trying to make him different from the engineer

[@sideeswipe]

@@ejej_shej7958 lmao they don’t give two shits about that they just wanted to make him actually useful

[@sideeswipe]

Lmao no

[@piratekit3941]

I think they got tired of people getting POTG while staring at a butt, or while dead, honestly. You could ult from the other side of the map and kill people you couldn't see at all. It was kind cheesy - but I miss it.

[@qazisgone7292]

@@sideeswipe They do give a shit about that

[@zackftw2748]

I really miss throwing out armor packs :(

[@MichaelJ44]

God I forgot about them. And the reaper souls

[@HearthArrowandKey]

I miss so much the old ulti. I mean, firing lava is cool, but the lvl 3 turret firing missiles was the real deal.

[@Chicharrero91]

Imagine that now against pharas echoes mercies flying around.... I miss it too...

[@eidolon1407]

At least the level 3 turret was replaced with bob

[@pikadru6049]

This is nostalgic

[@jackomecamorfo6060]

old torb was common engineer,new torb is gunslinger engineer.
change my mind 💀

[@chavevo9271]

I miss punching a spray while my sentry level 3 does a Team Kill

[@Miksolo]

Im a bit sad i wasn't playing Overwatch back then
Torb used to be even more like Dell Conagher than I expected, what with the sentry upgrades and providing extra health to teammates!

[@rluidy_3601]

He was more like a suport, but now he is a real dps

[@jerrybarnhouse4050]

He was so much better. So was sym

[@mo_riz]

@@jerrybarnhouse4050 more like unbalanced

[@pierreaoun9600]

@@jerrybarnhouse4050 He was total garbage lmao

[@jayanimations494]

Concept was cool but outside of defenses type game modes he was a throw pick every single time, the developers made the game and built the game at first with the hopes that the player base wouldn’t one trick or main a single hero (Lol)

[@Lestium]

Rip for the old beefy ass MOLTEN COOOOOOOOOOOORE SFX and buff

[@legendaryvvizard4388]

I wish they kept a few things from the old Torb, obviously getting rid of armor packs makes sense but the new turret feels kinda tacked on, they could buff HP or damage and have it start at level 1 again, also new molten core is pretty good but theres something iconic about the old molten core, and now since his ult doesn't involve his turret in any way it makes his turret feel even more disconnected from his kit

[@TheDunsparceGames]

i feel like overload should give torb’s turret a small boost in firing speed as a little callback to old molten core

[@sideeswipe]

The turret shouldn’t be the main component of his kit it’s just supposed to be an ability, any hero that is centered solely around one ability is just bad game design

[@sideeswipe]

@@therealazir6305 Uh no rein’s entire kit isn’t centered around his shield but his abilities have really good synergy with his overall kit, his shield is just his most defining ability. Same goes for Winston and hog and tracer would literally be trash if it wasn’t for recall so that’s definitely not true. Torb’s healing packs had absolutely not synergy with his turret which is fine but when the entirety of his kit literally centered around it (his ult’s only purpose was to power up the turret and his gun was trash) then that’s objectively bad game design. And saying a hitscan’s weapon is their main purpose is like saying the sky is blue, like no shit

[@20tigerpaw20]

@@sideeswipe "tracer would literally be trash if it wasn’t for recall"
so you admit a hero is centered around their ability and would be bad if they wernt, yet still try to deny that any hero should be centered around a ability?

[@thatguy2920]

@@sideeswipe tell that to the devs would designed echo lmao

[@Slendermaster968]

Old torb would be today’s meta

[@sideeswipe]

Hahahahah please tell me this is a joke

[@Slendermaster968]

@@sideeswipe 7 months ago, it wasn't

[@Sgil97]

They should make a support tank that gives out armour packs like torb used to do.

[@Sgil97]

@@pollling
Basically, but in the tank role

[@sideeswipe]

@@Sgil97 Whats the point of that tanks are supposed to make space not heal a team

[@thefunkycarno5871]

@@sideeswipe tell that to junker queen in overwatch 2

[@liberalstchenel596]

@@thefunkycarno5871 she doesn't heal, she basically give them a lit bit of extra health that stands for 3 seconds to compensate the fact she doesnt have a way to protect them

[@davidnewhart2533]

I miss Old Torbjorn. I still wish they made a game mode that was basically classic OW1.
It would be nice for both veteran players and new players.

[@localTurtwig]

I have great memories of old Torb.

[@Silverstorm173]

Remember when u could stack armor and shielding those were the days

[@meowjejekjs]

i started playing december 2020 and for some reason i have memories of his armor packs/ pre rework

[@ultramanfan3757]

I liked him better before the rework

[@ultramanfan3757]

Fuck you man

[@ultramanfan3757]

Hmm let me guess your one of the cry baby's who wanted him changed right??

[@fishgiovaana8441]

@Cameron why so rude tho ?

[@scrappy4]

Yeah old torb was the bomb

[@cicadaboi101]

Yeah supporting teammates with armour was so satisfying.

[@TWO_THOUSAND_SEAVY_HEAVY]

I wish they kept the level 3 turret to go along with the molten metal he throws on the floor

[@mrspulmaschine9242]

No way this was 3 years ago

[@tazmania7785]

I miss the scraps I collected from dead heroes :(

[@drchaine532]

Miss Old Torb

[@jeremiahd1271]

I miss old torb

[@jamesthegoo7600]

I really missed the old Torb, after the rework he became a way frailer class and lost what made me used to main him.

[@heitorzincleiton5071]

If u mained pre rework torb you’re either a psychopath or straight out a troll lol

[@jamesthegoo7600]

@@heitorzincleiton5071 Nah, He was the whole reason I got into the game.

[@H0VA]

I miss the old ultimate so much

[@SaffronTheBat]

I miss lelvel 3 turret :c

[@Jarchitechture]

I honestly have mad respect for Torbjorn players who hit shots accurately with that primary fire because I'll be honest I'd rather blindly hammer swinging other than trying to hit someone with a small magma ball

[@toki5990]

This is historical info

[@nunothedude]

the armour was really cool

[@sonnyboi1297]

Armor packs… rest in peace, you noob helping legend.

[@nogunk147]

The days of 400 HP dps heroes were the best days

[@lippoo01001]

old Torb was so much similar to the Enginner

[@Hindenberg]

R.I.P baby turret

[@yewweilim714]

I completely forgot scraps were a thing

[@danielvilleda1002]

that was the best torb, RIP :(

[@premilapatel2296]

Torn turret was so op when he used his ult

[@nicktomlinson6140]

They crippled this man

[@sellout_6996]

sadly i barely played torb before his rework because he was a troll pick

[@tobimadara7539]

I miss old ultimate

[@sonnyboi1297]

This torb was so much better then the failed hanzo torb we have today.

[@xxtoptigerxx8758]

I miss level 1 and 3 turret

[@Badbirdie]

So Torb used to be a real threat

[@glimpseiscute]

rip too level 3

[@therealbrofist7943]

Man i wanna build my turret

[@lollal8743]

Now we know that torbjorn is actually broken

[@baranmutafcoglu717]

why is he simulating extreme recoil with his movement while shooting?

[@octoberfox3399]

I wish you could lv up torbs turret

[@joesykes4226]

as much as his new ult makes more sense cuz, yk he actually shoots out Molten Larva, i do kinda prefer his original ability :( plus his armor packs need to come back >: (
his original ult voiceline sounded so much cooler too

[@RandyOrlok]

old torb wa os muc hbetter

[@iGhostSlayer]

What!! he can do shield 's now ?

[@dondon007.]

i like how this guy is sweating against bots constantly moving around so they wouldt attack him

[@tylerbooks7217]

I Stopped playing because they reworked Torb. Still makes me sad.

[@thatsabingo6695]

Torb was more fun pre rework but he was too similar to engie I see why they did it

[@shafikkrisoondatt4002]

No he wasn't...It was more along the lines that he just dominates low ranks and sucked mad hard at higher ones

[@jarus7618]

He kinda sucks now.

[@docicusalignjon]

I fucking hate his new ult

[@uncertified2626]

Before: engie
After: combat engie, with worse ult

[@THETVGCHANNEL]

We should have this turret back. Can someone explain to me why it was reworked?

[@RandyOrlok]

becaue console players crying non stop

[@cosmetolog__d]

Looks like I missed the best part of Overwatch...

[@ultramanfan3757]

Torbjorn is not as fun as he use to be and he's no longer a builder a forger like he use to be he's more of a makanik now his magni skin should be removed his mask should be removed some of his sprays should be removed 2 of his highlight entros should be removed oh ya and molten core should be changed and called magma bomb

[@CheckTMOW]

All my homies hate Torbjorn

[@hassandabo6288]

Its simple.
Old torb = More fun.
New torb = Better.

[@kkkkkk1368]

I wish they’d do a mix of old torb and new torb in experimental that way he would be up to par with the other characters
200 hp
Quick secondary fire
Old molten core ult
Armor packs and scraps
Upgradable turret but you can throw it instead of deploying it

[@RUGER5264]

Old torb cooler

[@gayboi9413]

New rework sucks

[@antreute]

old torb better than newest one
Blizzard so stupid

[@thatsabingo6695]

I’m pretty sure they changed him because he was too similar to engie

[@ultramanfan3757]

Let's see can no longer build his turret can no longer provide shiled for his team mates and can no longer make is turret level 3 ((sarcasus: ya real good work blizzard real good work))

[@nicksmith9]

I think it's better. Fits his role as a DPS.

[@ultramanfan3757]

@@nicksmith9 he is a dwarf

[@ultramanfan3757]

Dwarves are builders makers craftsman

[@nicksmith9]

@@ultramanfan3757 So? It's a video game it's not factually correct in any way at all.

[@ultramanfan3757]

His old move set matched him better

[@danielgafforio8703]

TRASH REWORK

[@sawney_bean]

This rework is SO bad