AMR500 Supercharger Test Drive with Audio in a VW Beetle 1600
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ธ.ค. 2018
- Take a quick trip down the street with me and listen to how the AMR500 sounds on my 1600 with a 3:1 ratio pulley making about 11psi of boost :D
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I installed one on my 1.8L Type 4 I'm very happy with it is power you can feel.
Wonderful my friend!!!
Hello I’m now a proud owner of my own beetle. Unfortunately this will only be my second project car. What would I have to do to supercharge one of these motors “safely”? As much as I’d love to keep it all original i need a little more speed and I’m trying to figure out if I want a turbo or a supercharger
Little ripper! Love it 🙌
Are you spend your winter on the mountain, or will you work on yours any? :D
@@thedubshop I know, I've been super hands off. We're actually getting our own house this month with an attached garage! I promise I'll drink at least three beers per week in the garage. 🔧
Very nice bro!!!
Thank you!
Awesome!🚗🚘🚗
Anybody know what sort of rejetting would be required for a stock solex carb and an amr500?
Hi Mario
It sounds amazing, could yo please tell me what meth nozzle size are you using? And at what pressure is activated?
Thanks!
I am using a special nozzle from Aqua Mist. I don't recall the size exactly. And I am also controlling the volume with a high speed valve that is continuously variable.
Hi! I just bought for my 1.2 ltr engine with 81 hp I have seen many people saying that the noise of the Supercharger is very annoying do you know what to do to reduce it ??maybe using a muffler in the intake ?? And if it is reliable with stock internal? How much hp do you think it will Increase? Also love your VW videos they inspired me 😋
the noise is from the gears, not the air flow. theres not much you can do about the noise. If you want something quiet maybe look into centrifugal blowers like vortech.
Can you make intake pipe and manifold pipe I wanna buy for my hotrod bug
What would be the biggest motor this supercharger should go on? I understand the reason not to put it on a 2 liter or bigger but what about a 1700 or? Like a 85.5mm bore and 74mm stroke old school type of build?
i think something more than 1500cc starts to rape this blower,
it has no dimensions to deal with more than 1600 for what is showed,
if you look at the graphics on torque curve of this bug you may notice at peak rpm , the torque N/A and with this charger gets closer
Saya Indonesia..nice..
can the injectors be placed near the heads? any advantages.
sounds awesome btw!
I am actually using port injectors in this video. You can see the connectors if you look hard. I wanted to use the single injector pre supercharger to cool the intake charge and it didn't work. So it isn't being used :)
Ok i see the port injectors, my bad.
Again, awesome job Mario!
Would it be a bad idea to mount one of these superchargers to a 670cc Predator v-twin? They're pretty tough engines, they're rated at 22hp but I've seen one push 70hp naturally aspirated with performance parts.
I don't think that's a bad idea at all. You can adjust the boost with pulley changes. Be prepared to use a different carb with jets that are easy to get :)
might try a smaller model too it would be more efficient and cheaper too
I think you should use a amr300 instead... What is the compression ratio on those engines stock???
I agree on the AMR300 as well.
Red beards garage on youtube put one of these on a 670 predator!
does EFI make it more fuel-efficient? how much does the supercharger add to gas usage? thank you.
My intention was not adding fuel efficiency. I wanted more power. You would be hard pressed to get better fuel efficiency from a 1600 by using a small carburetor. But almost doubling my stock HP is awesome 🙂
i was planing to buy the same supercharger , but now i have doubts , how come it doesn't give more hp? i want to install on my ford focus 1.6 how much hp ill get?
With the RPM capability and the CAM you have this charger is probably not the right choice for you.
An air-cooled be motor is kewl but no HP king . Still 100 HP is nothing to sneeze at and I imagine it moves off the line with gusto . A higher technology water cooled engine would of course make more HP per liter . So if you use an AMR500 for a water-cooled engine I would imagine if engineered well the HP would be very good .
So out of curiosity... If I have a 600cc engine, (not VW) and I install a 300cc charger, would I be able to use a Carb off a 900cc engine without mods? I'm new to this so I'm aware that I may be asking a ridiculous question.
You will certainly need to rejet the carb and possibly make it compatible with boost by adding a boost reference port to the float bowl. Happy boosting!
Is the 8 psi attained with a pulley swap on the supercharger ? If so what boost was made with the stock blower pulley ?
The stock pulley made about 5psi, I have 2 other sizes. One for 8 and another that made 13 :)
Where can i buy the setup to get the Amr500 on my beetle engine ? Can you close your Hood ?
Hey, you can find my package here
thedubshop.com/amr500-supercharged-fuel-injection-package-with-ignition-type-1/
The decklid closes 100%
@@thedubshop very nice
Did you need to add a BOV or BPV?
Since the throttle body is before the supercharger a BOV isn't neccessary. A BPV would help to keep heat down while cruising.
Can i use this supercharger for my car? 1.6 with 7200 rev limiter?
I would say no, the charger is limited to 16,000 rpm. You would spin it too fast with most standard pulley options available.
Could this be used on a Vstrom 650 motorcycle?
Yeah, it sure could!
Nicee , 93.08 hp on wheels?
Yes, that is wheel HP :)
@@thedubshop Nice I so want to do this
Maybe a stupid question, but... Why it's used only on 1600cc and smaller? Never saw AMR500 on 2332cc or 2387cc...
Not stupid. It comes down to the small size and only 500cc per revolution. The charger would have to spin to fast for the larger displacement. There are better chargers for larger engines :)
Indeed not a stupid question at all... The charger only moves 500cc for each turn... And it's Max rpm is 16000 (anyone correct me if I am wrong here) this means if you have an engine that has a redline of 6500 rpm you can only have a pulley ratio of 16000/6500 =2.46... a 1.6 liter engine consumes 800 cc per revolution and here you would be pumping in about 1200 cc... This would give about 11psi of boost (I used an online calculator) anyway on a 2 liter you would only get 4.5 psi of boost (assuming there aren't many losses) at this point it is not worth getting this supercharger since it will be working really hard for little boost... I myself have a Daihatsu feroza 1.6.. and I will be putting an amr500 on it soon. I'll run it at low boost since the engine is stock... So about 4-6 psi... So for a low boost application you might be able to run it on a 2L but it isn't recommend
@@notyourtipicaltechguy6438 you're correct 16,000 continuous r.p.m.
I spin mine a little higher but only for 5 seconds on my 1/8 mile drag bike.
@@notyourtipicaltechguy6438 thanks for doing the math, looks like a fun project for the daily driver zx4 (2.0l duratec) wouldn't try running +5 on anything comparable to this at the price so 4 lbs is good.
The tensioner is in the wrong location on the drive side of the belt, it should be on the non-drive side where the idler is & if it's making 11psi, the charge air temp will be excessive without cooling.
They are both idlers and I have water injection. It's all good.
how long does this unit stay installed ?
I ran it for a year then pulled it to put another engine in. I recently ran it on my engine dyno too but it's on an engine stand right now until I have something else to put it in.
What is pression bar 1600cc
Sorry, I do not understand the question. Boost is just under 1 bar if that is what you mean.
Are you using the stock transmission?
No, my transmission has been modified. If you look back in my feed this transmission is the same one that I have ran an 11 second 1/4 mile with.
@@thedubshop Thanks for the reply!
I am working on my own project but I have some doubts. Is methane injection before or after the supercharger? Is the air temperature sensor damaged with methanol?
How many psi please? Thanks
Did you read the description?
Could you run 2 on a 1600cc
You sure can! You could then slow them down to make less heat and more power :)
Hey dumb question here if anyone is capable could please answer. I understand the model of these Asian superchargers are prefixed with either a 300 or 500 do I assume this possible means something like 300 or 5 CFM because depending on your engines displacement you need the volume to create the pressure of boost. Being Asian I'm gonna safely assume it's probably not in SAE measurements of CFM so whatever the metric equivalent would be I have to assume??? There is hardly non to very misconstrued information on these blowers that are all over the net! I've played with blowers and turbos so I think I can understand the concept here. Yes you can always under or overdrive the system to meet your needs via pulley ratios no problem there. But I've found nothing on the max RPMs of the input shafts, nor their Max volume and PSI at a given RPM. So yeah I'm sure anything will work OK for a while, but when I found out these pos units aren't even brand new, there's nothing for proper information of their capabilities it was an instant red flag for me! I know blowers/roots type use a Teflon type tip seal for increased pressure gains and no need for lubrication on the rotors themselves. BUT the Teflon tip seals do ware out!!! They really do not have a great life expectancy especially at performance levels of speed and pressures they need to make. So yeah I was all ready to buy one about a month ago till I realized the fuckin things are all used units take offs actually via the dealership or factory. Meaning something's wrong with something here....... The other big red flag is they state that there's no warranty what so ever, these are as is used units, but should be good. The factory replaces them and the cores are discarded one eBay seller said they are simply replaced being it's easier. Yes it maybe easier. BUT someone is paying for it to be replaced somewhere! So are these just throw away units not meant to ever be rebuilt when they begin to fail?? If the factory doesn't rebuild them so where could you ever find a part for them anyways?? So yeah I'm good with these pos things, they work from what I've seen, I guess people are getting really lucky the ones completing their projects now? But after doing all this custom BS to make the thing fit and work right, let alone look nice! What happens when this supply of used parts blowers drys up soon and yours now fails in some way, weather a bearing on it Shits or the rotors are just plain worn and it doesn't make anymore boost......? So Now you have to figure something out and redesign your whole engine and engine compartment to hopefully find a similar replacement! Fuck this! So I guess I'm just going back to what I know, buying a Turbo. The blower is cool, even looks like a baby Detroit 6 or 8-71 roots supercharger. But it's not worth it if it's here today gone tomorrow and no way to fix it rebuild them things. So they are disposable units which are being sold as already disposed units off someone else's headache so much so they opted to throw them away rather than repair or refurbish them. Well good luck to everyone using one, and oh BTW a blower centrifugal or roots takes horse power to make HP, remember that, see ya in the rearview with my Turbocharger. Thanks. And very impressive build on the Bug it looks and sounds absolutely amazing for now. For your sake I really hope these things have a halfway decent lifespan.
Thanks for your input. They are 500cc per revolution with a max rated speed of 16000rpm. These do not have a lip seal, the rotors are 100% coated. They are not perfect but they work great. I would also use a turbo on larger engines. With this bone stock engine to make almost 100hp with the torque of a 2L all in under 2500rpm it's just a great feeling.
Oh thank you so very much for the information on these blowers! That's not too bad specs wise for smaller 1-1.5 liter engines even smaller I have a plan in mind to use something of that output on a 600cc V twin. But you are absolutely right! The power gains are really worth the money spent! Not to mention it sounds pretty darn impressive with the blower whine. Thank you for taking the time out and write me back it's been like pulling teeth to find anyone with any sort of definite specs of cfm per revolution, exactly what I needed to know. Well thank you for the video, and I hope it has a pretty long life for ya! Otherwise it looks bad ass! Lol.
What a scream dude...
It is quite fun. Really turns heads as you can imagine :)
Slow compared to my beetle.
Cool.