^^ the president was displaced for a lot of reasons tbh, he was like most dictators suspicious af and often murdered his own millirary officers, the tipping point was when he murdered 40 scholars after a legalisation disagreement
From 1969 to 1980 the Somali government was actually fairly well liked by all Somali clans, seen as dictatorial but very capable and strong, introducing many medical, social, literary, economic, educational, infrastructural, millitary advancements in Somalia...the government became really authoritarian and turned on its own highly educated elites, soldiers, and clans after the 1977 ogaden war, and these harsh policies were felt from the early 1980s, reaching a boiling point in the mid to late 1980s Anyways, yes they did good, many good things, but also they committed huge crimes against Somalia itself, which hopefully we shall learn from and avoid
Mohamed Siyad Barre was a strong President, who did well for his country and people. His downward trend happened after he took up Marxism and killed the Islamic clerics. The reason for the war In the 1977 war with Ethiopia, was to liberate those Somali territories, that the British sneakily made an agreement with Menelik, and quietly handed Somali lands to Ethiopia and It was not until 1960 when the British left, that they disclosed the infamous handover to Ethiopia, which was a blow to the Somalis. In the 1977 war, the Somali army managed to reach Hawass river, but the Soviets switched sides, and Cuban and Yemeni planes started to bombard the Somali army. The first breakup of Somalia started in the North, when Northerners decided to revert back to the old British borders, ofcourse assisted by the West. The pirate problem started when the West by proxy Ethiopia invaded Somalia, when Abdillahi Yusuf was brought into Mogadishu on Ethiopian tanks. Then the West tried to get The president to sign off the 136 nautical sea mile of Somalia, and make Somalia seas 12 Mautical miles. When the Somali people in the country and the diaspora voiced their refusal, the Somali parliament unanimously voted 100% refusal. Then the loud screams of PIRATES!!! started, in all the western media. It was the poor fishermen who were fishing on their seas for centuries that bore the wrath of these lies. Many were snatched from their small boats and locked up in places such India, Seychelles etc. I am sorry unless you have the true full story of the happenings in Somalia, you are have no right to write according to yr whims.😠
The tipping point was never when the Supreme Revolutionary Council killed those wahhabi sponsored scholars, nobody cares when they were killed, and this happened in the early 1970s, the tipping point was the loss of the Ogaden 1977 war with Ethiopia, this is the one thing all Somalis cared about and when we lost this war, this is when the first military coups happened since 1969, and by 1980s rebel armies sponsored by Ethiopia for revenge were already on their way at destroying Somalia
Samsam,He was displaced because he wanted to give more rights to women,Ban FGM, Ban jahiliyyah Qabil, those 40 so called scholars aka Future Al shababs didn't like it etc,
Thank God they finally allowed guns on international ships. After a few million dollars and a few dead from pirate attacks, ship owners finally drilled it in their dumb noggins that paying a few thousand dollars for a security detail and weapon permits is better than losing a few million in ransom and cargo.
Overfishing by illegal foreign ships devastated fisherman livelihood back in 2012. They took 3x more fish than Somalia did out of their own waters. Fuck them, they deserved to get held ransom - they would've been put in prison if Somalia still had a navy but nooo instead of stopping illegal foreign fishing NATO decides to stop piracy and let foreign an-capitalists steal Somali resources
@@orabaki Under U.S law, Mercenaries aren't TECHNICALLY banned So U.S based security companies Don't even really "need" permission to use force If they get labeled mercenaries, the U.S government will just bail them out anyway
@@1stCallipostle if the ship is registered in a country that bans mercenaries then it would be illegal to have guns for hire on board. private security that is employed by said shipping company directly without outsourcing would technically be legal but the amount of loopholes and corrupt politicians would bail out any wrong doing if caught for a price..
3:20 Siad barre didn’t actually flee the country. It is one of the reasons things got out of hand. He delegated authority to the opposition but since he didn’t fulfil the last demand “leave the country” some groups used it as a pretext to delegitimise the new govt (as his puppets). The rest is history.
His family did leave tho, I know this because I’m distantly related to Siad Barre and I know where his children and grandchildren live, don’t expect me to give out that info tho
One unmentioned and amazing part of this conflict: it managed to get the US and North Korea on the same side of an incident (the Dai Hong Dan Incident), when a U.S. Navy helicopter and assault team off a destroyer helped retake a North Korean merchant ship from pirates. The North Korean government even released an uncharacteristically positive press release thanking the United States for being partners in preventing terrorism and piracy. Reality is infinitely stranger and more interesting than fiction.
I served on the USS Enterprise, and deployed in 2011 & 2012. We chased pirates all the time, especially in 2011. Even had Somali prisoners taken on board after the quest incident. I always thought it was ridiculous that a super carrier was chasing these small boats around.
Two things: militaries intended to curb piracy actually curbed the cannery vessels which harvested the fisheries. This turned fisherman back to fishing. Number 2, insurance underwriters required armed guards on vessels passing by. The pirates were quite extraordinary in the lengths they went to.
Imagine living like a medieval peasant barely surviving then some local boys tell you about the millions you can get, securing your life and probably the life of your entire community by demanding ranson off this giant ass ships. You group up with your boys go on the boat and you are met with a task force of half the world with giant ships capable of desintegrating your shitty village for seconds.
I remember a US warship escorting a transport ship to Somalia. The warship sat off the coast of Somalia, waiting for the civilian ship to unload and return, when a group of pirates tried to board it. Apparently, they thought it was the cargo ship. Well, they soon regretted that decision...
Not quite. The US ships they tried boarding were the Gonzalez and Cape St George. But they didn't confuse them with transport ships as some press claimed. And infact the US was the one that engaged first. The pirates were just stupid enough to try boarding instead of surrendering. The warship that they did confuse was Spanish. Namely the Patiño. And to be fair they confused it with an oiler because it IS an oiler. A MILITATY oiler which serves to fuel the warships around the coast and which is full of armed sailors and an attack helicopter. But an oiler nonetheless. Dunces boarded thinking it was an easy prey. Got shot up. The few still in the skiff tried fleeing, and the helicopter chased them and opened fire. And no joke the survivor's lawyer tried to claim they should be let go scott free because they didn't INTEND to board a navy ship, they thought they were boarding a civilian tanker. So the charges should be dropped. The judge wasn't amused.
@@thespanishinquisition4078Honestly I can sympathize with them, but when they go out of their way to attack or kill civilians that's when I stop caring. Arm every ship that ventures forth, and patrol the borders with naval presence. Either they leave them alone or become target practice, they can't keep coming if they're all dead.
As far as I know a whole private defense industry has sprung up around this issue. Security contractors board the ships, armed with assault rifles. They build fortified positions in high places using sandbags and such. Sometimes firing in the air and letting the pirates know the ship is defended is enough. But when the pirates are determined, there is a shootout and the attackers get smoked, because the defenders have a superior firing position. To my knowledge no ship defended this way has ever been taken over by the pirates. I would think a video about Somali piracy would at least have a mention of this.
Yeah fighting pirates for money was def a dream job. It really only takes a couple of good hands to defend against multiple ships; by the time they would get a rope or ladder up I'd already have fired off two or three full mags into em ; Having razor wire and hoses makes it even easier
You totally missed that merchant ships have watercannons, armed guards and boarding prevention measures now, a huge oversight when talking about the topic.
Yup, it's the same with schools that armed and trained their teachers and no longer have any mass shootings or even casual violence that other schools suffer from. Honestly, given the rampant piracy throughout history, it's a wonder why anyone at any point thought sailing a several hundred million dollar ship unguarded was a good idea. It's like driving a money truck without armed personnel.
what he missed is that the merchant ships were not allowed to carry on guns because of incredibly stupid bureaucratic restriction in the insurance policies. That is why the ships had those ludicrous watercannons. When I watched the movie with Tom Hanks its was painstakingly to me that one single riffle could have prevented the pirates from boarding the ship... this was pathetic.
In 2012 it actually got so bad that the Royal Navy had to defend ships. And, get this, some giga chad pirates tried to pirate a Royal Navy destroyer. You can guess at how well that went of course (after the Royal Navy told them to back off or they will shoot, they didn’t back of and got sent to the 4th dimension by a missile still half a mile away from the vessel) but the thought of being so hungry that you try to attack a super advanced warship with long range torpedoes and manned by some of the best soldiers in the world (Royal Marines). My word. Imagine being that desperate
I was in that area in 2014 with the Canadian navy and saw what commercial ships in that area look like up close. I think the razor wire and obvious MG emplacements probably had more to do with the drop than anything else. They didn't have the guns there most of the time for legal reasons, but what happens at sea stays at sea and I know an emplacement when I see one.
Can anyone honestly say they’d do any differently? If your family was starving, and foreign fishing vessels were stealing their only potential source of food, can anyone honestly say they’d react differently?
i recall how the russians recaptured a freighter which the somali pirates took. They captured the pirates and put them back in boat then soon radar contact was lost as the Russian navy shoot at them with cannons.
@@docb8324 There's a point where you have to draw the line. Just because they're starving does not justify thwir actions, on innocent boats, that are not meddling in their fishing area. It's comparable to owners killing robbers that are jacking hundreds of cars from a dealership, but it's another to go after people that have done nothing to you, and don't bother you just because "you can, and because I'm hungry." Let me make something clear, I'm not faulting them for being hungry, but I am faulting them for dragging others into their suffering just because they are suffering. You have to draw a line somewhere.
Good vid! While international coalitions and improvements on land did help to put an end to piracy, the major factor which is often forgotten is that most ships transiting in the area had private security companies or other kinds of attack prevention routines that drastically reduce the rate of successful hijacking. Once it became hard to make a profit, stakeholders stopped investing in piracy.
Yeah, force projection from naval units is a factor in the decline, but nowhere near the level that anti-piracy measures taken by merchants navies had. I remember that there was _big_ money to be made for ex-forces personnel by signing up to work security on ships.
There is a painfully obvious connection between young thugs hijacking cargo ships off the coast of Africa vs. young thugs doing smash-and-grab robberies in the US. You get three guesses what the common denominator is.
@@anthonycarlisle6184 there's poor and poor, if doing that was the only way to feed yourself and your family and even community, then I would not be too mad.. Materialistic things are not that important in the face of human suffering.
They did and failed when the Islamic court was going to become the government and was stabilising somalia but because of the attack it collapsed and al shabbab became a thing
And try to sort out the mess with their own problems plaguing them? Good luck with that. It'd be like if the US tried to annex Mexico immediately after the Civil War. It had enough problems holding itself together, the last thing it'd need is a big heaping seconds of instability and more territory to actively occupy.
7:50 Another huge part of it was the hiring of Mercenaries. the idea for each mercenary groups:Two major ships would sit before and after Somalia waters. Your ship would pick up afew with weapons, and head to the other side, all under protection of a gun and a flag on yoru ship to warn that you have armed gaurds. When you past somalia, the security would get off into the other ship and get a quick ride back to original area.
Mercenaries killed it, I remember back then it became common to see guns on shipping vessels passing through there, not much a tiny motor boat can do against a few armed guards on top of the deck, the guards have cover and elevation while the tiny motorboats were out in the open.
Great video. Piracy is now expanding in Gulf of Guinea, mostly from Nigerian coast. The response is different, with local navies coordinating themselves to catch the small boats.
Around 2010-2012 many US veterans were hired onto commercial ships to act as security. Heavily armed with tactical weaponry, they made short work of the piracy efforts and I'm sure that led to the decline around that time period. It was a lucrative job that even I was considering once I used my GI Bill to get a degree. But the prospects died down in that 2 year period and it wasn't as easy to get into. Wasn't a bad gig. The biggest threat was the RPGs they typically carried, the Ak-47s didn't have the range to hit massively elevated and fortified positions these security forces used on the ships. Usually they would fire on the speedboats until they stopped or turned around.
I’m from the Twin Cities, where we have a lot of Somali refugees. I’ve met some people who have family who were pirates. Most of them that got here are happier to work a less dangerous job in the States, and those who did pirate hauls simply saw piracy as a dead-end job where no others were available.
It's sad what has happened to my great nation Somalia :( worse yet other nations say they want to help but in reality they want to exploit Somalia with neo-colonialism. I hate how foreigners come and mess things up in Somalia when we're at one of our lowest points in history.
If u need a country to help.. ireland is a great one.. since we have the money and we arent racist at all.. Religion is basically dead in ireland.. And we have no previous wars , except against the british. Btw i know irelands stereotyped as a racist country , but were not.
@@Monkeybomb0 I like Ireland. They politically defend the people of the Middle East and they defended the Palestinians when literally almost every western country agrees with Israel and Ireland has a good history with the Ottoman Empire, look it up :)
This reminds me of some tv show (can’t remember which one) where Somali Pirates were explaining they didn’t want to do this but had no choice. Than through comedy hijinks became like 1700s pirates.
@See Ya Later Yea, there was also a south park episode where one of the boys (i forgot his name) got on a somali pirate ship to be a pirate then the pirates told him how they were doing it for medicine and food and didnt want to be there
So worth watching the documentary, "The Somali Project." Yes, the multi-billion dollar international fleet made piracy more difficult. Yes, armed maritime security protected individual ships with 100% success. But what *ended* Somali piracy in a matter of weeks was the deployment of the PMPF - Puntland Maritime Police Force, funded by the UAE and trained & led by a private company. The PMPF captured all the coastal villages that were being used as pirate bases, & with nowhere to take captured ships & crews the ransom model fell apart & Somali piracy ended. As I said: in a matter of weeks after the PMPF went to work.
Did PMPF get paid by the mission statement or by the hour? if the latter, they got shafted as they were so good they put themselves out of business in a matter of weeks.
Ah the Bosaso Coast Guard. The one force that would make pirates drop everything and run. They were famous for shooting first and asking questions later. If at all.
How did speedboats take down massive cargo ships? -Well the ships generally had no onboard security so the pirates had no problem going right up to the ships, using grappling wires to climb the side, and with no armed resistance, took the crew hostage pretty easily. Why have they mostly stopped? -The opposite of the above. Many cargo ships now have some form of armed security so when the pirates would try and approach the ship, they'd be fired upon and decide that that day was not the day to die. Even if they managed to board, they'd still have to face multiple armed defenders. It's the same reason places like courthouses, police stations, and gun shows/conventions are pretty much never attacked by an active shooter. Too much resistance. Instead, they leave to find places like schools and other gun free zones. Far easier targets. Not to mention that there is now far more military vessels patrolling shipping lanes and thus more chances for detection.
@@synthlordvr No school that I know of had/has any armed cops (Canada), and courthouses aren't going to attract many shooters regardless. Additionally, you ignored the other good examples that they gave. The message they were trying to get across was clear: more possible resistance means fewer attacks. Do you have any examples that show otherwise, aside from cases where someone attempts suicide by cop? Non-existent counterpoint.
Somalia changed a Lot in the last years and while it is unstable politicaly Somalia is far away from falling to an Organisation Like Al shabaab. They are left battered in the countryside, their territory is effectively Split in Two(one smaller area in gaalmuduug and one big areas in southern Somalia). Mogadishu is a revived city especially parts like Number afar.
That's good to hear, I hope you guys recover soon and take full control over the country even Somaliland region, you were one of the most powerful and best countries of Africa in 1960's and 1970's hope one day you can be great again
It’s pretty bad in South America too. Chinese fishing vessels have been poaching in Chilean and Ecuadorian waters. Because those countries don’t have the navy to hit back decisively, they’ve instead resorted to arming pirates and doing pirate things.
@@RuiRuichi one submarine would send the Chinese fleet home. One torpedo under the keel of the mother (supply) ship and dozens of riceburners are 4,000 miles from home.....then sink the refrigerator vessel full of all the fish they poached...or take it to port as a prize.
Somalia: "I'm a corrupt socialist dictator. Can I have some guns, please?" Soviet Union: "yeah no sorry fam we used to go to church with the other guy... best of luck" (arms Ethiopia for being Orthodox)
Another factor that stymied the pirates was that shipping companies started putting armed security details on their ships, and in some instances large caliber machine guns on deck mounted swivels were displayed openly, discouraging attacks before they happened.
Videos like this that use extreme, inaccurate clickbait titles like 'pirates' just to garner views and likes is what is ruining TH-cam. It's bottom barrel stuff. There was never any 'pirates' it was a group of fisherman who joined together to fight against foreign fishing trawlers.
Very hard working guys, fisherman by day, pirates by night. jokes aside i am a nav officer on cargo ships and have transited the gulf of aden to the suez canal a few times since 2018 and never had any issues, however it is still considered a high risk area and it's common practice to take on armed security guards while transiting the area, the real issue these days is west africa, not somalia.
"Disruption to trade cost the world over 7 billion dollars" Ah, so there was a financial incentive to help lift Somalia out of poverty and help the people- "They sent in the navy." Oh. I suppose that works too.
Essentially they became victims of their own success. The first wave of Pirates were poor fishermen, desperate to survive after the Straight of Hormuz' fishing lanes were nearly wiped out, they went out in their boats with second-hand weapons hitting personal and commercial vessels. All they wanted was ransom, they generally left the cargoes intact and so long as the passengers and crew didn't try to be heroes they were treated relatively decent while the negotiators worked out a deal both could live with, businesses usually didn't arm their ships both because of International Laws and Cost-Effectiveness, it was just cheaper to pay the ransom. But then the second wave came in, professional criminals and warlords seeing the success of the fishermens work took over, they were less inclined to negotiate or treat the hostages decently. So the various nations created the Permanent Defense Fleet while commercial vessels started taking greater care, travelling in groups, moving farther and farther away from the Somali Coast, and hiring Private Military Contractors for security. As for the fishermen, those that survived did what very poor people usually do when they suddenly get rich, they blew their money on junk and ended up back where they were
@@baddiegaming758 nah most pirates don’t kill their captives only hold them for randsom you got to remember most of these pirates are ordinary fishermen who can’t fish anymore and have no way on making real money unless capturing a white man for randsom
Fun fact: during the UN intervention in Somalia in 1993, an 80-year-old Somalian man showed up at the gates of the Italian embassy clad in a colonial uniform and carrying a WW2-era rifle. He requested to fight alongside the Italian army. It turned out that he had been an Askari (colonial soldier) during the days of Mussolini and felt honor-bound to fulfill his oath to fight for Duce, King, and Country. The general commanding the installation allowed him to join the unit and build a hut in the compound. Hilariously, he insisted on hailing the Duce on parade, despite repeated attempts to explain to him that the Duce had been gone for quite some time.
Overfishing by illegal foreign ships devastated fisherman livelihood back in 2012. They took 3x more fish than Somalia did out of their own waters. Fuck them, they deserved to get held ransom - they would've been put in prison if Somalia still had a navy but nooo instead of stopping illegal foreign fishing NATO decides to stop piracy and let foreign an-capitalists steal Somali resources
@@delinquente1444 If someone parks wrong in a foreign country, that's not a reason for an invasion. If travelers get repeatedly abducted, that's a reason to secure the roads.
I worked as private security on several ships in this region in 2008. Wild times, it was actually fun when a pirate would approach, finally we’d get action. Sometimes it was months of nothing.
Yeah that definitely doesn't sound like bs. People who talk about wanting action on the internet have never seen it. Maybe if you'd ever been in a real fight you might not be so keen for another.
@@munky871 I hear ya. Its one thing to shoot fish in a barrel, its a whole other ball game when the enemy has the terrain/defensive advantage and weapons that are as good as yours.
You forgot to mention that merchants began to hire ex special forces guys as security. Pirates lost one crew after another to bullets until it wasn’t profitable any longer.
One of the big problems I have with my little pony the movie 2017 is that they call pirates "awesome" an entire song (time to be awesome) is about how cool pirates are.
Most attacks went unreported as they were often twarted.. as many merchant companies brought on private contractors for protection.. Who's going to report a thwarted attack with defensive fatalities.. when your ability to carry weapons is extremely limited for legal reasons, and your violating those laws
The Somali Pirates were one of the Triple A farm club teams closed out by MLB in the early 2000s in an attempt to control costs. Some of the promising players found work with major league franchises but the bulk of team disappeared.
So, from the year before by birth until the year after I graduated high school Somali went without a government. An entire generation my age went without a government. Hard to comprehend what consequences it will have wild to think about what you take for granted.
By December 2013, the US Office of Naval Intelligence reported that only nine vessels had been attacked during the year by the pirates, with no successful hijackings. Control Risks attributed this 90% decline in pirate activity from the corresponding period in 2012 to the adoption of best management practices by vessel owners and crews, armed private security onboard ships, a significant naval presence, and the development of onshore security forces. From Wiki.
I feel sad about the somali pirates. They were explored and rejected by the world, and that was the only thing that they found to have some money in a devastad country.
update: By the end of 2021, Somalia had decided that foreign troops, particularly the United Nations and Western powers, should withdraw from the Somali territorial waters and take responsibility for the Federal Government. This agenda of the Somali government came when there was no piracy in the last 10 years and foreigners were only looking out for their own interests. In Somalia there were other specific problems such as illegal fishing and toxic waste. and dumped in the sea. as evidenced by the actions of these forces they were against the opening of what somalis want.
I think that this won't solve the problem to stop the pirates the solution is to build Somalia and make it democratic uncorruptable stable rich so no dictators and no need for piracy because their rich I think this will cost less than protecting trade routes I think idk
That seems more expensive and time-consuming than blowing them up for the benefit of Somalia's Neighbours I too would prefer the world powers come together to strengthen weakening states but seeing as how 2/5 of the world's great powers are corrupt dictatorships themselves and that the only member of the 5 (The US) who has the capacity to help countries establish rich stable democracies (Germany, Japan, South Korea, etc) left Somalia after the 2nd Battle of Mogadishu and has spent the past 2 decades with its attempts to build democracies stifled (most notably in Afghanistan but minimally successful in Iraq... minimally) by other powers who don't give a rats ass while the rest of the world constantly blames them for everything and so they themselves have gone fuck it and retreated to their vases of support. I, therefore, ask you... How exactly do you build Somalia into a democratic, incorruptible, stable, rich country with no dictators if it is no one's interest and the only one that had the capacity to and tried is done? Look at Venezuela, look at Myanmar, Look at the 5 coups in 5 months in Africa where I'm from No one gives a shit, before at least there be international sanctions or something, now even when the US sanctions half the world complains. We as people are left to our own devices, and more accurately, the whims of our leaders. Be they tyrannical or democratic. Just as the Ascendancy of the US both in the 1920s and 1990s grew the world's stable and prosperous democracies, its decline would Herald a new age of uncompromising Authoritarianism where no one gives a fuck. The US is a ruthless, arrogant, imperialistic, greedy giant of a nation but at least where its interests aligned, and sometimes where it didn't, it preached the language of democracy. Now we shall be left to whatever comes after.
@@seeyalater3510 I don’t think sharia is exactly what makes 3 nations with some of the largest proven oil deposits wealthy. It might be something else Hmm, like maybe the largest proven oil deposits and a near monopoly on Eurasian oil pricing through OPEC But that’s just my guess from the outside. Regardless Sharia is a legal scheme, if the people want it, it’s their right. But practically speaking it does nothing for wealth and often hinders independent development. There’s a reason the wealthiest Muslim majority country, despite its lack of oil (on a scale compared to the ME) is the secular Indonesia
You need stability before any economic improvements can happen….. a civil war doesn’t really breed stability. Unless the west invades the Somali civil war will go on for decades, but then the world would insult us, and we’d probably make a mess of the hole situation.
Even though their waters were being plundered by foreign fishing vessels, I can’t feel sorry for them because they started taking cruise ships and commercial vessels who had nothing to do with the illegal fishing. They went from essentially vigilantes to full on criminal.
You can’t expect people to just accept annihilation. If you were starving I don’t think you’d make decisions based off of what naive moralists on TH-cam think, either
@@mylescaldwell4455 you say they faced annihilation as if they weren’t aggressors towards innocent vessels out of their own territorial waters? I have experienced extreme hunger and poverty, I was homeless for quite some time and empathized with the cause of driving foreign fishing vessels away but taking innocent civilians for ransom in international waters is a step too far. You can be apologetic for them all you want but you wouldn’t make excuses had it been you and your family with guns to your backs on a cruise ship. Journalists from all over the world covered the fact that the money they stole went towards alcohol, drug production and prostitution, not towards the betterment of their community. Am I truly the naive one here?
you realize the pirates arent an organization or a dedicated job for most. thats why your viewpoint doesnt make much sense. they come from all walks of life from simple fisherman to even jihadists. There isnt a dedicated pirates union that makes rules on what you can or cant do. anybody can be one
@@marcosburgos8415 except there was a sort of “pirate union” most port town pirates were working on jobs specifically commissioned by captains who answered to higher people and high ranking people in their hierarchy of sorts. They most definitely were semi organized and not a smattering of random guys taking off from beaches, they had their own ports with their own rules and so forth.
Questions needed to be answered were: 1. Where did they get funding? 2. Who's arming them? 3. How do they withdraw money? 4. Where will the money go? 5. With so much Navy present in Somalia, why can't they search suspicious boats? 6. What countries benefitting from having the pirates? 7. What do these countries get from stationing thier navy ships? Honestly it's likely a business both for countries & masterminds.
Aside from not saying where they got their arms from (they probably just had Soviet arms just lying around cause nobody really touched it) every single question is explained in the video, take off your tinfoil hat. 1. There's no funding they're just fishermen defending their Territory till they got the genius idea of pirating 3. How most ransoms are paid, believe it or not people aren't getting sacrificed for a tiny amount of cash 4. The pirates 5 Cause if the pirates are not shooting them they're just civilians in their country's borders and just doing whatever the fuck isn't a good look 6. Somali, though it's just the pirates 7. Not get their goods worth millions of dollars get stolen
Merchant vessels also gained the ability to hire private security crews, who could repel the poorly trained and equipped Somali boarders. Earlier on, such private security on merchant ships was illegal.
Main reason why these Somali fisherman turn to pirate is because after their government fell no one was protecting their water territory so everybody was taking advantage by fishing illegally there. Before the civil war, these fisherman were catching lobsters and expensive fish there. Also Europe was dumping their dangerous waste including radioactive materials in their water which many people got sick and died from it.
It gets me that the piracy is what is critisised and not the decimation of Somali's fishing industry which lead to it. As always, rampant commercial exploitation is allowed by nations who could have done something to help stop it.
Fighting the people illegally fishing in their waters is one thing. *_Attacking, ransoming, and murdering entirely innocent trade vessels that are passing by OUTSIDE OF THEIR WATERS is entirely different._*
@@CoralCopperHeadYes but which is worse: Starving villagers attacking (and usually immediately releasing) commercial ships as it has become practically their only source of income/means for survival. Or Massive corporations starving practically an entire nation by overfishing in their waters and dumping toxic waste and thus removing their only source of food? Apparently the first since it's covered extensively in media globally and called for a UN intervention with a fleet that was probably worth 100 times the GDP of Somalia. While the latter is barely an afterthought that almost nobody knows about and nobody has ever really done anything about it.
@@CoralCopperHead i blame this on the colonozation attempt on somalia, our ancestors lived peaceful nomadic lives before you guys came here and ruined our state making it dependant on imports and fish.
A reason I never heard mentioned in this video is........A bunch of the larger shipping companies will now have armed security personnel on board if that ship will go through pirated waters. Even if they're out numbered they are often much more accurate shots with their carbines than the somalis are so protecting a vessel that the pirates need to climb 4-5 meters to board becomes easy.
Military involvement had no real effect on piracy. The pirates attacked US Navy ships in order to get them to go away and were blown up, that was about it. But military ships could not patrol and protect more than 100 miles at a time. The cause of the decline of piracy was the allowing of shipping companies to hire mercenary security with military weapons to be stationed on their ships. Between the famous sniping of the pirates and the estimated 1200+ dead pirates from attacking container ships with armed mercenaries aboard the pirate population was effective reduced through dead bodies and word of mouth spreading the idea that it wasn't worth the risk.
President Aden Adde of Somalia was the first post-independence leader in Africa to peacefully transfer power to a democratically elected political opponent. This should have been the start of a peaceful and prosperous Somalia but sadly this is not the case today. Hope for good things for this beautiful country and its people ❤️
Somaliland issues its own coinage and paper money! Collectively, it's called the Somaliland shilling. I have an uncirculated 2002 Somaliland twenty shillings coin in my foreign coin collection. It has a greyhound on the obverse and the numerical denomination on the reverse.
^^ the president was displaced for a lot of reasons tbh, he was like most dictators suspicious af and often murdered his own millirary officers, the tipping point was when he murdered 40 scholars after a legalisation disagreement
From 1969 to 1980 the Somali government was actually fairly well liked by all Somali clans, seen as dictatorial but very capable and strong, introducing many medical, social, literary, economic, educational, infrastructural, millitary advancements in Somalia...the government became really authoritarian and turned on its own highly educated elites, soldiers, and clans after the 1977 ogaden war, and these harsh policies were felt from the early 1980s, reaching a boiling point in the mid to late 1980s
Anyways, yes they did good, many good things, but also they committed huge crimes against Somalia itself, which hopefully we shall learn from and avoid
Mohamed Siyad Barre was a strong President, who did well for his country and people.
His downward trend happened after he took up Marxism and killed the Islamic clerics.
The reason for the war In the 1977 war with Ethiopia, was to liberate those Somali territories, that the British sneakily made an agreement with Menelik, and quietly handed Somali lands to Ethiopia and
It was not until 1960 when the British left, that they disclosed the infamous handover to Ethiopia, which was a blow to the Somalis.
In the 1977 war, the Somali army managed to reach Hawass river, but the Soviets switched sides, and Cuban and Yemeni planes started to bombard the Somali army.
The first breakup of Somalia started in the North, when Northerners decided to revert back to the old British borders, ofcourse assisted by the West.
The pirate problem started when the West by proxy Ethiopia invaded Somalia, when Abdillahi Yusuf was brought into Mogadishu on Ethiopian tanks. Then the West tried to get The president to sign off the 136 nautical sea mile of Somalia, and make Somalia seas 12 Mautical miles. When the Somali people in the country and the diaspora voiced their refusal, the Somali parliament unanimously voted 100% refusal. Then the loud screams of PIRATES!!!
started, in all the western media. It was the poor fishermen who were fishing on their seas for centuries that bore the wrath of these lies. Many were snatched from their small boats and locked up in places such India, Seychelles etc.
I am sorry unless you have the true full story of the happenings in Somalia, you are have no right to write according to yr whims.😠
The tipping point was never when the Supreme Revolutionary Council killed those wahhabi sponsored scholars, nobody cares when they were killed, and this happened in the early 1970s, the tipping point was the loss of the Ogaden 1977 war with Ethiopia, this is the one thing all Somalis cared about and when we lost this war, this is when the first military coups happened since 1969, and by 1980s rebel armies sponsored by Ethiopia for revenge were already on their way at destroying Somalia
40 scholars??? i Never knew Al shabab were real scholars !!🤦♂️
Samsam,He was displaced because he wanted to give more rights to women,Ban FGM, Ban jahiliyyah Qabil, those 40 so called scholars aka Future Al shababs didn't like it etc,
Pirates? Nah, They're the Somali Coast Guard
Pretty much
They were basically coast guard until they invaded merchant ships from other oceanic territories.
Somali Navy
Somali Maritime IRS
Somali Economic Forum
You failed to mention anti piracy units operating on comercial ships. Most likely this is the real reason of the piracy decline.
Thank God they finally allowed guns on international ships. After a few million dollars and a few dead from pirate attacks, ship owners finally drilled it in their dumb noggins that paying a few thousand dollars for a security detail and weapon permits is better than losing a few million in ransom and cargo.
Overfishing by illegal foreign ships devastated fisherman livelihood back in 2012. They took 3x more fish than Somalia did out of their own waters. Fuck them, they deserved to get held ransom - they would've been put in prison if Somalia still had a navy but nooo instead of stopping illegal foreign fishing NATO decides to stop piracy and let foreign an-capitalists steal Somali resources
@@orabaki Under U.S law, Mercenaries aren't TECHNICALLY banned
So U.S based security companies
Don't even really "need" permission to use force
If they get labeled mercenaries, the U.S government will just bail them out anyway
@@orabaki they only care about money. If big companies didnt suffer from this, the world would’ve looked away.
@@1stCallipostle if the ship is registered in a country that bans mercenaries then it would be illegal to have guns for hire on board. private security that is employed by said shipping company directly without outsourcing would technically be legal but the amount of loopholes and corrupt politicians would bail out any wrong doing if caught for a price..
3:20 Siad barre didn’t actually flee the country. It is one of the reasons things got out of hand. He delegated authority to the opposition but since he didn’t fulfil the last demand “leave the country” some groups used it as a pretext to delegitimise the new govt (as his puppets). The rest is history.
Siad Barre was forced out by the animals USC and SPM they overthrowed his government in 1991 and he fled from Mogadishu
You don't suppose q ships were used?
@@mahdi6488 why you're calling them animals?
His family did leave tho, I know this because I’m distantly related to Siad Barre and I know where his children and grandchildren live, don’t expect me to give out that info tho
Don't lie he flee the country and die in toilet in Nigeria
One unmentioned and amazing part of this conflict: it managed to get the US and North Korea on the same side of an incident (the Dai Hong Dan Incident), when a U.S. Navy helicopter and assault team off a destroyer helped retake a North Korean merchant ship from pirates. The North Korean government even released an uncharacteristically positive press release thanking the United States for being partners in preventing terrorism and piracy.
Reality is infinitely stranger and more interesting than fiction.
That's because fiction has to make sense, reality doesn't have that same restriction.
Friendship is magic
Would be good for me if the goverment unlocked thier country from thier mess.
The fact this actually happened is insane. Imagine being the mfs who took that boat and finding out you made the mortal enemies team up
It’s like when Batman and Joker team up to take down The Batman Who Laughs.
I served on the USS Enterprise, and deployed in 2011 & 2012. We chased pirates all the time, especially in 2011. Even had Somali prisoners taken on board after the quest incident. I always thought it was ridiculous that a super carrier was chasing these small boats around.
lol yeah slight disproportionate force reaction
What were the rules of engagement?
clukskin it’s not about fairness in proportion so much as cost/savings and making the chance of death 0
put some holes in their skiffs and they swim to you
Bet it sure looked weird, a Constitution class ship flying about chasing small boats, firin' phasers and the like.
Two things: militaries intended to curb piracy actually curbed the cannery vessels which harvested the fisheries. This turned fisherman back to fishing. Number 2, insurance underwriters required armed guards on vessels passing by. The pirates were quite extraordinary in the lengths they went to.
Imagine living like a medieval peasant barely surviving then some local boys tell you about the millions you can get, securing your life and probably the life of your entire community by demanding ranson off this giant ass ships. You group up with your boys go on the boat and you are met with a task force of half the world with giant ships capable of desintegrating your shitty village for seconds.
right? for most if not all of these ppl they could risk pirating and get killed or not and starve to death anyways so u cant really blame them
Boom. Pirate scume eliminated.
Ok?
I mean that's kinda what happened at the end of the Golden Age of Piracy lol
Unrelated, BUT.
Medieval peasants very much survived,far from barely. These poor assholes are doing 100 times worse at least
I remember a US warship escorting a transport ship to Somalia. The warship sat off the coast of Somalia, waiting for the civilian ship to unload and return, when a group of pirates tried to board it. Apparently, they thought it was the cargo ship. Well, they soon regretted that decision...
"Ah yes, naval cannons, mounted machine guns and SAM launchers on the deck. Standard issue for merchant ships."
- Somali soon to be ex-pirate.
Not quite. The US ships they tried boarding were the Gonzalez and Cape St George. But they didn't confuse them with transport ships as some press claimed. And infact the US was the one that engaged first. The pirates were just stupid enough to try boarding instead of surrendering.
The warship that they did confuse was Spanish. Namely the Patiño. And to be fair they confused it with an oiler because it IS an oiler. A MILITATY oiler which serves to fuel the warships around the coast and which is full of armed sailors and an attack helicopter. But an oiler nonetheless.
Dunces boarded thinking it was an easy prey. Got shot up. The few still in the skiff tried fleeing, and the helicopter chased them and opened fire. And no joke the survivor's lawyer tried to claim they should be let go scott free because they didn't INTEND to board a navy ship, they thought they were boarding a civilian tanker. So the charges should be dropped.
The judge wasn't amused.
@@thespanishinquisition4078Honestly I can sympathize with them, but when they go out of their way to attack or kill civilians that's when I stop caring.
Arm every ship that ventures forth, and patrol the borders with naval presence. Either they leave them alone or become target practice, they can't keep coming if they're all dead.
Wow they’re just like us!
As far as I know a whole private defense industry has sprung up around this issue. Security contractors board the ships, armed with assault rifles. They build fortified positions in high places using sandbags and such. Sometimes firing in the air and letting the pirates know the ship is defended is enough. But when the pirates are determined, there is a shootout and the attackers get smoked, because the defenders have a superior firing position. To my knowledge no ship defended this way has ever been taken over by the pirates. I would think a video about Somali piracy would at least have a mention of this.
Yeah fighting pirates for money was def a dream job.
It really only takes a couple of good hands to defend against multiple ships; by the time they would get a rope or ladder up I'd already have fired off two or three full mags into em
; Having razor wire and hoses makes it even easier
@@cascadianrangers728 I would combine the two and have razor hoses.
@@cascadianrangers728 dude isn’t even pretending that he doesn’t want to shoot people lmao
@@obeseperson cascadian LARPers often do
@@obeseperson Calling those pirates "people" is a stretch.
You totally missed that merchant ships have watercannons, armed guards and boarding prevention measures now, a huge oversight when talking about the topic.
Yup, it's the same with schools that armed and trained their teachers and no longer have any mass shootings or even casual violence that other schools suffer from. Honestly, given the rampant piracy throughout history, it's a wonder why anyone at any point thought sailing a several hundred million dollar ship unguarded was a good idea. It's like driving a money truck without armed personnel.
what he missed is that the merchant ships were not allowed to carry on guns because of incredibly stupid bureaucratic restriction in the insurance policies. That is why the ships had those ludicrous watercannons. When I watched the movie with Tom Hanks its was painstakingly to me that one single riffle could have prevented the pirates from boarding the ship... this was pathetic.
Lookout: captain, they're firing tickets at us!
Captain: alright, they asked for it. Arm the super soaker!
@@walterrldias"watched a movie" stopped reading lol
@@0008losercool glad you admit you don't have many brain cells and are incapable of critical thinking. 👍
In 2012 it actually got so bad that the Royal Navy had to defend ships. And, get this, some giga chad pirates tried to pirate a Royal Navy destroyer. You can guess at how well that went of course (after the Royal Navy told them to back off or they will shoot, they didn’t back of and got sent to the 4th dimension by a missile still half a mile away from the vessel) but the thought of being so hungry that you try to attack a super advanced warship with long range torpedoes and manned by some of the best soldiers in the world (Royal Marines). My word. Imagine being that desperate
Likely just too stupid to know what that ship was.
@@TimoRutanen I would say "too illiterate".
@@КрасныйОрёл-л9х And they were still half a mile away. Probably thought they were out of reach
Not hungry. Greedy.
@@kalashnikovdevil greedy? Id like to see how you act days without food lol
I was in that area in 2014 with the Canadian navy and saw what commercial ships in that area look like up close. I think the razor wire and obvious MG emplacements probably had more to do with the drop than anything else.
They didn't have the guns there most of the time for legal reasons, but what happens at sea stays at sea and I know an emplacement when I see one.
Can anyone honestly say they’d do any differently? If your family was starving, and foreign fishing vessels were stealing their only potential source of food, can anyone honestly say they’d react differently?
It's one thing to engage invading fishing boats, another is to assault innocent cargo ships.
But yeah, understandable.
@@pottertheavenger1363 Especially cargo ships that are in international waters, not even in your country's Exclusive Economical Zone
@@OpRaven-62 I don't think they give a shit about international lines if they're starving, just saying
i recall how the russians recaptured a freighter which the somali pirates took. They captured the pirates and put them back in boat then soon radar contact was lost as the Russian navy shoot at them with cannons.
@@docb8324 There's a point where you have to draw the line. Just because they're starving does not justify thwir actions, on innocent boats, that are not meddling in their fishing area. It's comparable to owners killing robbers that are jacking hundreds of cars from a dealership, but it's another to go after people that have done nothing to you, and don't bother you just because "you can, and because I'm hungry." Let me make something clear, I'm not faulting them for being hungry, but I am faulting them for dragging others into their suffering just because they are suffering. You have to draw a line somewhere.
Good vid! While international coalitions and improvements on land did help to put an end to piracy, the major factor which is often forgotten is that most ships transiting in the area had private security companies or other kinds of attack prevention routines that drastically reduce the rate of successful hijacking. Once it became hard to make a profit, stakeholders stopped investing in piracy.
Yeah, force projection from naval units is a factor in the decline, but nowhere near the level that anti-piracy measures taken by merchants navies had. I remember that there was _big_ money to be made for ex-forces personnel by signing up to work security on ships.
There is a painfully obvious connection between young thugs hijacking cargo ships off the coast of Africa vs. young thugs doing smash-and-grab robberies in the US.
You get three guesses what the common denominator is.
@@MrPLC999 them being poor?
I'm poor, does that justify me jacking you up & taking your car? Or blowing up your favorite store?
@@anthonycarlisle6184 there's poor and poor, if doing that was the only way to feed yourself and your family and even community, then I would not be too mad.. Materialistic things are not that important in the face of human suffering.
This video was fantastic!
I would love to see some sources in the description so I can read more about the impact pirates had on global trade.
@FemonicRBLX in... what exactly?
Lol is this a bot comment???????
7:28 why does every photo of an insurgency have some dude in that insane crouching pose
Ducking enemy projectiles
Smaller silhouette makes it harder to hit you?
I'm surprised Ethiopia doesn't just invade during their anarchic period
They did and failed when the Islamic court was going to become the government and was stabilising somalia but because of the attack it collapsed and al shabbab became a thing
Right now ethiopia is going through the same thing with there civil war right now
They invaded in 2006💀
And try to sort out the mess with their own problems plaguing them? Good luck with that. It'd be like if the US tried to annex Mexico immediately after the Civil War. It had enough problems holding itself together, the last thing it'd need is a big heaping seconds of instability and more territory to actively occupy.
They have their own issues they dont even like the somalis in their own land anyway
Brilliant video, well done!
7:50 Another huge part of it was the hiring of Mercenaries. the idea for each mercenary groups:Two major ships would sit before and after Somalia waters. Your ship would pick up afew with weapons, and head to the other side, all under protection of a gun and a flag on yoru ship to warn that you have armed gaurds. When you past somalia, the security would get off into the other ship and get a quick ride back to original area.
Mercenaries killed it, I remember back then it became common to see guns on shipping vessels passing through there, not much a tiny motor boat can do against a few armed guards on top of the deck, the guards have cover and elevation while the tiny motorboats were out in the open.
Recommendation for h0ser: talk about the *zambian space program*
(It really happened)
Great video.
Piracy is now expanding in Gulf of Guinea, mostly from Nigerian coast. The response is different, with local navies coordinating themselves to catch the small boats.
Piracy is also prevalent in south Lagos, in stealing oil from pipes. A different kind of pirate, covered in oil.
@@raylopez99Who steals oil in Lagos?!
Around 2010-2012 many US veterans were hired onto commercial ships to act as security. Heavily armed with tactical weaponry, they made short work of the piracy efforts and I'm sure that led to the decline around that time period. It was a lucrative job that even I was considering once I used my GI Bill to get a degree. But the prospects died down in that 2 year period and it wasn't as easy to get into.
Wasn't a bad gig. The biggest threat was the RPGs they typically carried, the Ak-47s didn't have the range to hit massively elevated and fortified positions these security forces used on the ships. Usually they would fire on the speedboats until they stopped or turned around.
50 BMG baby, yeah!
Russians saw a boat pretending to fish. Boats were fired on. Swimmers got the same as the boat. Investigation over. Look for the next "fishing boat "
@@assassinlexx1993Russians shooting fishing boats, things never change
I’m from the Twin Cities, where we have a lot of Somali refugees. I’ve met some people who have family who were pirates. Most of them that got here are happier to work a less dangerous job in the States, and those who did pirate hauls simply saw piracy as a dead-end job where no others were available.
Yes, after Pompey’s operations in the Mediterranean, piracy is not what it used to be. ☠️
Good to know former pirates are roaming around our streets lmao.
So… lock up those Somalis. Piracy is inexcusable and a federal crime.
@@case8987exactly. ridiculous.
@@generalgrievous4254 Family, who were pirates; not pirates themselves. They wouldn’t make it here alive, otherwise
It's sad what has happened to my great nation Somalia :( worse yet other nations say they want to help but in reality they want to exploit Somalia with neo-colonialism. I hate how foreigners come and mess things up in Somalia when we're at one of our lowest points in history.
I hope your country stabilizes soon good luck on your future
As a fellow Somali pog
If u need a country to help.. ireland is a great one.. since we have the money and we arent racist at all.. Religion is basically dead in ireland.. And we have no previous wars , except against the british. Btw i know irelands stereotyped as a racist country , but were not.
@@Monkeybomb0 I’ve never thought Ireland was racist and if I’m not mistaken it’s a pretty Catholic country
@@Monkeybomb0 I like Ireland. They politically defend the people of the Middle East and they defended the Palestinians when literally almost every western country agrees with Israel and Ireland has a good history with the Ottoman Empire, look it up :)
Great video, this deserves more attention than the terrible crap on trending.
This reminds me of some tv show (can’t remember which one) where Somali Pirates were explaining they didn’t want to do this but had no choice. Than through comedy hijinks became like 1700s pirates.
captain philips
@@hdhwkq that’s a movie. I remember it being a tv episode of something. Just can’t remember what.
@@Private-Potato was it South Park
@@seeyalater3510 looking into it, it was a Canadian show called Fugget about it
@See Ya Later Yea, there was also a south park episode where one of the boys (i forgot his name) got on a somali pirate ship to be a pirate then the pirates told him how they were doing it for medicine and food and didnt want to be there
I love your script and sense of humor in it.
I love this video. The way you combine comedy and info together makes this so fun and exciting to watch!
So worth watching the documentary, "The Somali Project." Yes, the multi-billion dollar international fleet made piracy more difficult. Yes, armed maritime security protected individual ships with 100% success. But what *ended* Somali piracy in a matter of weeks was the deployment of the PMPF - Puntland Maritime Police Force, funded by the UAE and trained & led by a private company. The PMPF captured all the coastal villages that were being used as pirate bases, & with nowhere to take captured ships & crews the ransom model fell apart & Somali piracy ended. As I said: in a matter of weeks after the PMPF went to work.
Did PMPF get paid by the mission statement or by the hour? if the latter, they got shafted as they were so good they put themselves out of business in a matter of weeks.
Wow they are so good, with them alone can deal with all conflicts in the world.
@@wuynltrong8875 Deploy in Ukraine . Achieve Russian Domination. Very good result .
Ah the Bosaso Coast Guard. The one force that would make pirates drop everything and run. They were famous for shooting first and asking questions later. If at all.
basically divide and conquer. they used somalis against somalis just as they have done in India back then.
How did speedboats take down massive cargo ships?
-Well the ships generally had no onboard security so the pirates had no problem going right up to the ships, using grappling wires to climb the side, and with no armed resistance, took the crew hostage pretty easily.
Why have they mostly stopped?
-The opposite of the above. Many cargo ships now have some form of armed security so when the pirates would try and approach the ship, they'd be fired upon and decide that that day was not the day to die. Even if they managed to board, they'd still have to face multiple armed defenders. It's the same reason places like courthouses, police stations, and gun shows/conventions are pretty much never attacked by an active shooter. Too much resistance. Instead, they leave to find places like schools and other gun free zones. Far easier targets. Not to mention that there is now far more military vessels patrolling shipping lanes and thus more chances for detection.
Thats like the dumbest transition I ever heard. Psycho.
@@Anarchist_Angel what?
Gun free zones only prevent citizens from carrying, not cops. Schools have like 1 armed cop. How many do courthouses have? Weak correlation.
The ships have no on board security because of Lawyers.
@@synthlordvr No school that I know of had/has any armed cops (Canada), and courthouses aren't going to attract many shooters regardless. Additionally, you ignored the other good examples that they gave. The message they were trying to get across was clear: more possible resistance means fewer attacks.
Do you have any examples that show otherwise, aside from cases where someone attempts suicide by cop? Non-existent counterpoint.
they started resting on their loreals after being futured in south park and were riding high on "I am the captain now" fame, a true cautionary tale...
As a somali I must say your video is spot on great work and you gained a new subscriber
im confused, why do you have internet, why do you speak English and why are you a weeb ,
why u no pirate
@@bubblegumgun3292 what???
@@bubblegumgun3292 We have wifi lol
@@bubblegumgun3292 bro the racism is showing
@@bubblegumgun3292 somalia has internet
Great video! Keep it up!
I miss the pirates, hope they make a comeback
ok
Troll
@@ghostme5743 wara
Your going to hell
@@malistripgangsta7592 chill out its a joke
Your art style inspires me to think perhaps even I could become an animator! The video was also cool, so thanks for that. 😊
Also it was not mentioned but commercial now hire defense companies to protect their ships from pirates
Somalia changed a Lot in the last years and while it is unstable politicaly Somalia is far away from falling to an Organisation Like Al shabaab. They are left battered in the countryside, their territory is effectively Split in Two(one smaller area in gaalmuduug and one big areas in southern Somalia). Mogadishu is a revived city especially parts like Number afar.
That's good to hear, I hope you guys recover soon and take full control over the country even Somaliland region, you were one of the most powerful and best countries of Africa in 1960's and 1970's hope one day you can be great again
What do you have to say now that Al Shabab is in Mogadishu?
@@liveloveminnesota they’re like roaches 😂
Why do they always spring right back up
@@liveloveminnesota it's not
@@user-jb7kv3nd9o It was
It’s pretty bad in South America too. Chinese fishing vessels have been poaching in Chilean and Ecuadorian waters. Because those countries don’t have the navy to hit back decisively, they’ve instead resorted to arming pirates and doing pirate things.
Go get 'em.
Please destroy those Chinese poachers
Pirates are kewl
Chile mostly doesn't sink them for economic relations with China. They have one of the best well armed navies in South America with 4 submarines.
@@RuiRuichi one submarine would send the Chinese fleet home.
One torpedo under the keel of the mother (supply) ship and dozens of riceburners are 4,000 miles from home.....then sink the refrigerator vessel full of all the fish they poached...or take it to port as a prize.
Somalia: "I'm a corrupt socialist dictator. Can I have some guns, please?"
Soviet Union: "yeah no sorry fam we used to go to church with the other guy... best of luck" (arms Ethiopia for being Orthodox)
Great video !!
Another factor that stymied the pirates was that shipping companies started putting armed security details on their ships, and in some instances large caliber machine guns on deck mounted swivels were displayed openly, discouraging attacks before they happened.
Videos like this that use extreme, inaccurate clickbait titles like 'pirates' just to garner views and likes is what is ruining TH-cam.
It's bottom barrel stuff.
There was never any 'pirates' it was a group of fisherman who joined together to fight against foreign fishing trawlers.
Very hard working guys, fisherman by day, pirates by night. jokes aside i am a nav officer on cargo ships and have transited the gulf of aden to the suez canal a few times since 2018 and never had any issues, however it is still considered a high risk area and it's common practice to take on armed security guards while transiting the area, the real issue these days is west africa, not somalia.
"Disruption to trade cost the world over 7 billion dollars"
Ah, so there was a financial incentive to help lift Somalia out of poverty and help the people-
"They sent in the navy."
Oh. I suppose that works too.
Essentially they became victims of their own success. The first wave of Pirates were poor fishermen, desperate to survive after the Straight of Hormuz' fishing lanes were nearly wiped out, they went out in their boats with second-hand weapons hitting personal and commercial vessels. All they wanted was ransom, they generally left the cargoes intact and so long as the passengers and crew didn't try to be heroes they were treated relatively decent while the negotiators worked out a deal both could live with, businesses usually didn't arm their ships both because of International Laws and Cost-Effectiveness, it was just cheaper to pay the ransom. But then the second wave came in, professional criminals and warlords seeing the success of the fishermens work took over, they were less inclined to negotiate or treat the hostages decently. So the various nations created the Permanent Defense Fleet while commercial vessels started taking greater care, travelling in groups, moving farther and farther away from the Somali Coast, and hiring Private Military Contractors for security. As for the fishermen, those that survived did what very poor people usually do when they suddenly get rich, they blew their money on junk and ended up back where they were
i don't know man i read wiki about this and it seem they not really that gentle.But the wiki is the only source i read about this.
@@baddiegaming758 nah most pirates don’t kill their captives only hold them for randsom you got to remember most of these pirates are ordinary fishermen who can’t fish anymore and have no way on making real money unless capturing a white man for randsom
Italy actually regained Somalia from 1950-60 as a UN trusteeship
Yea they regained under the condition they leave in 10 years
Fun fact: during the UN intervention in Somalia in 1993, an 80-year-old Somalian man showed up at the gates of the Italian embassy clad in a colonial uniform and carrying a WW2-era rifle. He requested to fight alongside the Italian army. It turned out that he had been an Askari (colonial soldier) during the days of Mussolini and felt honor-bound to fulfill his oath to fight for Duce, King, and Country. The general commanding the installation allowed him to join the unit and build a hut in the compound. Hilariously, he insisted on hailing the Duce on parade, despite repeated attempts to explain to him that the Duce had been gone for quite some time.
@@RabbiHerschel BASED
Yo great video hOser
I have a recommendation
Make a video about what happened to PNS Ghazi it is a pretty big naval mystery
Or don't ur channel
Hoser: "Ignore his moustache."
Also Hoser 5 seconds later: "Lmao look at the moustache on this man."
The piracy gone down, but the illegal fishing went up
Na it hasn’t piracy chased them away and never made them come again
@@abzmaliboy1160 lmaoo no they still rob our fish and ruined our ecosystem already
@@luqman7970yeah ur right piracy drove it down a lot tho
Overfishing by illegal foreign ships devastated fisherman livelihood back in 2012. They took 3x more fish than Somalia did out of their own waters. Fuck them, they deserved to get held ransom - they would've been put in prison if Somalia still had a navy but nooo instead of stopping illegal foreign fishing NATO decides to stop piracy and let foreign an-capitalists steal Somali resources
@@delinquente1444
If someone parks wrong in a foreign country, that's not a reason for an invasion. If travelers get repeatedly abducted, that's a reason to secure the roads.
Omg, You’re so underrated
Your vids are amazing! 💯
1:50
That's actually wrong, aside from british military occupation during ww2, Italy still had control over Somalia up until the early 1960s.
Great Vid. Thank you.
5:50 You're a straight G for making a Taiwan/China distinction. Lol. Love that. Great video
I worked as private security on several ships in this region in 2008. Wild times, it was actually fun when a pirate would approach, finally we’d get action. Sometimes it was months of nothing.
Yeah that definitely doesn't sound like bs. People who talk about wanting action on the internet have never seen it. Maybe if you'd ever been in a real fight you might not be so keen for another.
@@munky871 I hear ya. Its one thing to shoot fish in a barrel, its a whole other ball game when the enemy has the terrain/defensive advantage and weapons that are as good as yours.
@@munky871 It sounds like you were never in a real fight also if you claim that this pirates were able to put a real fight...
@@reaperzeero We had far more firepower than any pirates and allot of other advantage. Just stfu when you don’t know what you’re talking about.
so many of you were struggling to defeat pirates with less firearms. LOL
You forgot to mention that merchants began to hire ex special forces guys as security. Pirates lost one crew after another to bullets until it wasn’t profitable any longer.
One of the big problems I have with my little pony the movie 2017 is that they call pirates "awesome" an entire song (time to be awesome) is about how cool pirates are.
Most attacks went unreported as they were often twarted.. as many merchant companies brought on private contractors for protection..
Who's going to report a thwarted attack with defensive fatalities.. when your ability to carry weapons is extremely limited for legal reasons, and your violating those laws
once again, it's the gun control laws causing people to be vulnerable.
it's fucking wrong,.
Unfortunately now, foreign vessels fish without a care in the world, while others dump nuclear waste on somali shores.
2:16 It says to ignore his Hitler mustache, but all his emojis show the dubious mustache!
WOW this video has 1 million views after a long time good Job dude :)
Make a video about enugu airport in uganda. That’s pretty interesting, I think.
The Somali Pirates were one of the Triple A farm club teams closed out by MLB in the early 2000s in an attempt to control costs. Some of the promising players found work with major league franchises but the bulk of team disappeared.
So, from the year before by birth until the year after I graduated high school Somali went without a government. An entire generation my age went without a government. Hard to comprehend what consequences it will have wild to think about what you take for granted.
us somalis have been suffering after the colonozation attempt drasticlly changed somalia, just wish it can become a untied nation again.
I could hate on people for trying not to starve to death, but I don't want to.
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Ayo which country does the ship belong to?
@@senderk4712 bro your playing chess or checkers and Somalians are playing battleship. We are not the same🇸🇴
Somalia is my ethnicity lmao I was being satirical
@@senderk4712 I’m Somalian too, I was only joking
@@senderk4712 it’s a meme if you didn’t know
I think I've found a hidden gem
By December 2013, the US Office of Naval Intelligence reported that only nine vessels had been attacked during the year by the pirates, with no successful hijackings. Control Risks attributed this 90% decline in pirate activity from the corresponding period in 2012 to the adoption of best management practices by vessel owners and crews, armed private security onboard ships, a significant naval presence, and the development of onshore security forces. From Wiki.
I actually learned something today, thank you!
I feel sad about the somali pirates. They were explored and rejected by the world, and that was the only thing that they found to have some money in a devastad country.
Ah yes, Italy = The whole world. Flawless logic!
@@HelghastStalker Yes things would've been better if Europe didn't colonized Africa, it is their fault so shut up.
@@niviera7807 yep
They wouldn't be so poor if they didn't have so many kids.
@@andrewjones575 Are you stupid? Are you in the 1800's? Because Malthusian thinking was scientifically proven wrong over 150 years ago.
update: By the end of 2021, Somalia had decided that foreign troops, particularly the United Nations and Western powers, should withdraw from the Somali territorial waters and take responsibility for the Federal Government.
This agenda of the Somali government came when there was no piracy in the last 10 years and foreigners were only looking out for their own interests. In Somalia there were other specific problems such as illegal fishing and toxic waste. and dumped in the sea. as evidenced by the actions of these forces they were against the opening of what somalis want.
New mic?
I actually didn't, same mic
Somali pirates are the definition of "you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
No… they were and always have been villains.
I think that this won't solve the problem to stop the pirates the solution is to build Somalia and make it democratic uncorruptable stable rich so no dictators and no need for piracy because their rich I think this will cost less than protecting trade routes I think idk
That seems more expensive and time-consuming than blowing them up for the benefit of Somalia's Neighbours
I too would prefer the world powers come together to strengthen weakening states but seeing as how 2/5 of the world's great powers are corrupt dictatorships themselves and that the only member of the 5 (The US) who has the capacity to help countries establish rich stable democracies (Germany, Japan, South Korea, etc) left Somalia after the 2nd Battle of Mogadishu and has spent the past 2 decades with its attempts to build democracies stifled (most notably in Afghanistan but minimally successful in Iraq... minimally) by other powers who don't give a rats ass while the rest of the world constantly blames them for everything and so they themselves have gone fuck it and retreated to their vases of support.
I, therefore, ask you... How exactly do you build Somalia into a democratic, incorruptible, stable, rich country with no dictators if it is no one's interest and the only one that had the capacity to and tried is done?
Look at Venezuela, look at Myanmar, Look at the 5 coups in 5 months in Africa where I'm from
No one gives a shit, before at least there be international sanctions or something, now even when the US sanctions half the world complains.
We as people are left to our own devices, and more accurately, the whims of our leaders. Be they tyrannical or democratic.
Just as the Ascendancy of the US both in the 1920s and 1990s grew the world's stable and prosperous democracies, its decline would Herald a new age of uncompromising Authoritarianism where no one gives a fuck. The US is a ruthless, arrogant, imperialistic, greedy giant of a nation but at least where its interests aligned, and sometimes where it didn't, it preached the language of democracy. Now we shall be left to whatever comes after.
@@BasicLib it needs sharia . We can be economically prosperous such as countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, etc.
@@seeyalater3510 I don’t think sharia is exactly what makes 3 nations with some of the largest proven oil deposits wealthy.
It might be something else
Hmm, like maybe the largest proven oil deposits and a near monopoly on Eurasian oil pricing through OPEC
But that’s just my guess from the outside.
Regardless Sharia is a legal scheme, if the people want it, it’s their right. But practically speaking it does nothing for wealth and often hinders independent development. There’s a reason the wealthiest Muslim majority country, despite its lack of oil (on a scale compared to the ME) is the secular Indonesia
You need stability before any economic improvements can happen….. a civil war doesn’t really breed stability.
Unless the west invades the Somali civil war will go on for decades, but then the world would insult us, and we’d probably make a mess of the hole situation.
Somalia needs the Same Government system like china,so it can become very rich and strong
TLDW: Pirates shoot 7.62mm bullets, we shoot 76.2mm bullets
okay most destroyers use 5in guns. So 127mm... Not as catchy though
Some other types of ships use 57mm
I may sound as a messed up person, but I believe Somalia would be a great settling for a Far Cry game.
Lmao
Yeah, It'd be like a mixture of Far Cry 2 and 3
maybe a use can be found for Somalia after all
You forgot to mention the tons of waste dumbed into the sea around Somalia, basically killing off all the fish
with heavy cuban aid eh, what a wild concept lol… can you imagine struggling in a war and cuba comes to your rescue 😂🤷🏼♂️
From all the way Out in south west Africa.
Even though their waters were being plundered by foreign fishing vessels, I can’t feel sorry for them because they started taking cruise ships and commercial vessels who had nothing to do with the illegal fishing. They went from essentially vigilantes to full on criminal.
You can’t expect people to just accept annihilation. If you were starving I don’t think you’d make decisions based off of what naive moralists on TH-cam think, either
@@mylescaldwell4455 you say they faced annihilation as if they weren’t aggressors towards innocent vessels out of their own territorial waters? I have experienced extreme hunger and poverty, I was homeless for quite some time and empathized with the cause of driving foreign fishing vessels away but taking innocent civilians for ransom in international waters is a step too far. You can be apologetic for them all you want but you wouldn’t make excuses had it been you and your family with guns to your backs on a cruise ship. Journalists from all over the world covered the fact that the money they stole went towards alcohol, drug production and prostitution, not towards the betterment of their community. Am I truly the naive one here?
Yet America mindlessly aims drones at our country and we should feel sympathy for your struggles?
you realize the pirates arent an organization or a dedicated job for most. thats why your viewpoint doesnt make much sense. they come from all walks of life from simple fisherman to even jihadists. There isnt a dedicated pirates union that makes rules on what you can or cant do. anybody can be one
@@marcosburgos8415 except there was a sort of “pirate union” most port town pirates were working on jobs specifically commissioned by captains who answered to higher people and high ranking people in their hierarchy of sorts. They most definitely were semi organized and not a smattering of random guys taking off from beaches, they had their own ports with their own rules and so forth.
Siad barre was not corrupt but a dictator
0:39 fun, fact, the pirate in this movie, after this movie was filmed, he actually works in a mall, repairing cell phones and what not!
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Is there enough evidence to suggest that commercial shipping companies hiring private security contractors also helped to deter Somali pirates?
Questions needed to be answered were: 1. Where did they get funding?
2. Who's arming them?
3. How do they withdraw money?
4. Where will the money go?
5. With so much Navy present in Somalia, why can't they search suspicious boats?
6. What countries benefitting from having the pirates?
7. What do these countries get from stationing thier navy ships?
Honestly it's likely a business both for countries & masterminds.
I agree, the answer for
#2 however, would be both Somali and Foreign investors
4) BLM perhaps/ - NO DIFFERENCE
Aside from not saying where they got their arms from (they probably just had Soviet arms just lying around cause nobody really touched it) every single question is explained in the video, take off your tinfoil hat.
1. There's no funding they're just fishermen defending their Territory till they got the genius idea of pirating
3. How most ransoms are paid, believe it or not people aren't getting sacrificed for a tiny amount of cash
4. The pirates
5 Cause if the pirates are not shooting them they're just civilians in their country's borders and just doing whatever the fuck isn't a good look
6. Somali, though it's just the pirates
7. Not get their goods worth millions of dollars get stolen
I never knew you watched this guy lmao@@Lowseeds
Great summary of a sad situation, thanks
Real reason why they died: They invaded Ethiopia
No, real reason: Ethiopia had help and Somalia didn't
that region belong to Somalia, they were regaining their land that was stolen by Britain and Ethiopia.
@Cuddles many major powers invaded Somalia.
I don't think you can call it an anarchy when there were several miniature warlord governments fighting over land.
Merchant vessels also gained the ability to hire private security crews, who could repel the poorly trained and equipped Somali boarders. Earlier on, such private security on merchant ships was illegal.
Main reason why these Somali fisherman turn to pirate is because after their government fell no one was protecting their water territory so everybody was taking advantage by fishing illegally there. Before the civil war, these fisherman were catching lobsters and expensive fish there. Also Europe was dumping their dangerous waste including radioactive materials in their water which many people got sick and died from it.
It gets me that the piracy is what is critisised and not the decimation of Somali's fishing industry which lead to it.
As always, rampant commercial exploitation is allowed by nations who could have done something to help stop it.
Fighting the people illegally fishing in their waters is one thing.
*_Attacking, ransoming, and murdering entirely innocent trade vessels that are passing by OUTSIDE OF THEIR WATERS is entirely different._*
@@CoralCopperHead You're right, but it's also fair to point out how one did lead to the other.
@@CoralCopperHeadYes but which is worse:
Starving villagers attacking (and usually immediately releasing) commercial ships as it has become practically their only source of income/means for survival.
Or
Massive corporations starving practically an entire nation by overfishing in their waters and dumping toxic waste and thus removing their only source of food?
Apparently the first since it's covered extensively in media globally and called for a UN intervention with a fleet that was probably worth 100 times the GDP of Somalia.
While the latter is barely an afterthought that almost nobody knows about and nobody has ever really done anything about it.
@@CoralCopperHead i blame this on the colonozation attempt on somalia, our ancestors lived peaceful nomadic lives before you guys came here and ruined our state making it dependant on imports and fish.
A reason I never heard mentioned in this video is........A bunch of the larger shipping companies will now have armed security personnel on board if that ship will go through pirated waters. Even if they're out numbered they are often much more accurate shots with their carbines than the somalis are so protecting a vessel that the pirates need to climb 4-5 meters to board becomes easy.
They better tell us where the One piece is 🗿
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Military involvement had no real effect on piracy. The pirates attacked US Navy ships in order to get them to go away and were blown up, that was about it. But military ships could not patrol and protect more than 100 miles at a time.
The cause of the decline of piracy was the allowing of shipping companies to hire mercenary security with military weapons to be stationed on their ships.
Between the famous sniping of the pirates and the estimated 1200+ dead pirates from attacking container ships with armed mercenaries aboard the pirate population was effective reduced through dead bodies and word of mouth spreading the idea that it wasn't worth the risk.
dang i shouldve invested in the somali piracy stock market
Awww man you didnt mention the time the USA and North Korea teamed up to fight the pirates.
Really?
Just when you think the pirates are finished, theres eric cartman, butters, and ike to bring them back to their prime.
hahahah
Informative 👍
President Aden Adde of Somalia was the first post-independence leader in Africa to peacefully transfer power to a democratically elected political opponent. This should have been the start of a peaceful and prosperous Somalia but sadly this is not the case today. Hope for good things for this beautiful country and its people ❤️
Not the Microsoft error sound 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Does Somalia or Somaliland have navy 🤔 how come nobody controls the islands in Somalias territorial waters 🤔
Somaliland issues its own coinage and paper money! Collectively, it's called the Somaliland shilling. I have an uncirculated 2002 Somaliland twenty shillings coin in my foreign coin collection. It has a greyhound on the obverse and the numerical denomination on the reverse.
I used to have one that was 500. I thought that was a lot hehehe