Living with the 2019 Lexus ES 350 F Sport: Is this the next Lexus GS?
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- MotoMan drives something new for Lexus, the Lexus ES350 - but one with the F Sport package and adjustable dampers. Once the Mica Blue Pearl Lexus ES is dropped off at MotoMan Studio A, he goes about ‘Living With’ the 2019 Lexus ES 350 F Sport to learn how the latest generation of Lexus ES works as a daily driver but also answer the important question: Can this take the place of the Lexus GS?
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This car never was meant to be build for performance aspects! Lexus this outstanding job with this car, period, i have one the F-SPORT version and all i can say is that i have no words how amazing this car is, i dont care abt any of the performance stuff because all i need is superior quietness and excellent driving refinements, anybody who is looking for serious performance out of this car wont get it so all the people out there if u want performance car get performance car, this is a excellent family sedan with little bit of sportiness.
Lexus did not make ES F sport to beat or replace GS. According to the Lexus ES chief engineer, the example was LS. 2019 ES was made for comfort, quiet and roomy cabin, and also the design. They did not want to lose the "base" of ES. When the president of Toyota drove the new ES, he gave the words to the chief engineer "he wanted to keep driving," and that made the chief very happy.
I have this car and love it. Very comfortable and sharp looking
I test drove one today and I fell in love with it. I was in love with the GS but the interior and exterior of the ES is so much sexier
It can never be the GS....its not rear wheel drive
THANK YOU! It's about time someone says it. I have the GS350 F sport with LDH and RWD. It's not Definitely not ES
@MotoManTV, hey douchbag for about 53 grand you can purchase a Tesla Model 3 and still have cash left over that will save pollution. How about them apples huh? You ICE people make me sick!!!!
@@battosaijenkins946 you BORING EV people make me sick. Keep you're unreliable american piece of shit to yourself kid
@@battosaijenkins946 say it again after ur tesla is in the tesla shop for everything being broken. Tesla has horrible quality control. It is a soulless car. Why would anyone buy an econobox over a beautiful gs or even es.
ES is Camry in Lexus suit. Avalon for your american.
As an owner of 3 previous bimmers, I would take the Lexus (GS F in particular) because I don't like knowing my service advisors too well. Easier on my wallet that way.
Peter 63 - Yep. I got an 2019 A6 3 weeks ago and already had to take in shop twice already. Lower touch screen dash not responsive, Auto Headlights won’t turn off my headlights in broad daylight, and now creaking noise on sunroof. My wife also has a 2018 Lexus RX, and that car is astoundingly comfortable and quiet, and all bells and whistles works perfectly.
Next time. You’ll appreciate the far greater resale value too.
Yes, my 535d has cost me over $4000 in 20 months is maintenance and repairs. I bought it used with 55K and it now has 82K.
I'd pick the Lexus over the G80, the deal breaker is the resell value. It's much better + the Lexus is much more reliable.
G80 = NOT AS RELIABLE. PEOPLE, KEEP CHASING THE GENESIS DREAM. LOL
Agree. Resale on the BMW and E-Class is not what it is with the Lexus.
I also get 19.7 mpg average with 60 % city -local driving. 3.5 liter is a large V6 same as in RX350. I think having many bells and whistles contributes to ho hum mileage. My white (not Camry) with red seat 2019 ES350 F Sport feels very fast. Its 400 lbs lighter than Panamera 4.
I will take on Panamera 4S or turbo anytime. It’s not just nice comfortable riding car with all the creatures comforts, high techs, and safety features better than Mercedes E. It’s also less visits to the dealership. As for me its really a lion in sheepskin.
I get about 22.2 in the city. Not too much HWY driving yet to know.
Amazing car and I dare say, one of the best interiors going around. Simplicity is the key. No gloss black eye soreness
Amen
I love the Es i have a 2006 Es 330. I also love fwd cars and will drive them any day over rwd. Love the way these cars feel even pushing them hard around turns.
ES 350 f sport is a great looking and an amazing package for the money. ES will never replace the GS. Look for a future IS that's a little bigger to carry the load. Even an es with AWD wouldn't be the same as the GS since GS is rwd biased and built from the ground up to be a more visceral experience. The ES is built to be a buttery smooth relaxing quiet ride.
Agree, although the adaptive dampers on the F sport create a sharper experience in the corners in Sport+ mode. It is a great all around highway cruiser that can still dance just a wee bit, when you tighten up the dampers. No one will mistake this for a 540i mind you.. Then again, in Canada the 540i with even a few basic options is a whopping $30,000 more expensive than an ES350. It plays in a different space. But where the Lexus will trounce the BMW is in build quality and reliability.
The upcoming LF-1 is what the GS is going to become. Lexus always intended the GS to be a sporting flagship that sat next to the LS, rather than slightly below it in the Lexus lineup. Transforming the GS into a sport wagon gives it its own identity. Should be unveiled in 2020 as a 2021 model!
GS is going nowhere
I hope not. One of the reasons I like the IS is because it's compact. I might as well get a UX, but I'm sick of seeing soccer mom crossovers.
My opinion is based on what they are saying in the dealership. Adding AWD to the Es just doesn’t cut it. Two different cars and it’s a shame the GS sales are low. It’s such a great car. Perhaps if they lowered the price.
You make the best car reviews. Thank you
I. Drive a GS, love the GS.
This ES can never replace it .
It already did
🤣🤣🤣
There will be an IS 500 which sounds like it'll be pretty sweet
💀 they discounted the gs.
I picked up a barely used ES, and it may not do anything perfect, but it does everything well for what it is, which is a good tradeoff in my book when you consider the reliability.
Best Video yet! Thank You
You didn’t talk about reliability. I’ll take the 10 year ownership experience with the Lexus vs any of the German three any day.
Love my 2015 GS 350 F Sport AWD
Great video!
Hands free power open trunk. How do you close it with the fob?
Your so correct about I4 turbo. If you get on gas you'll get same or worse then v6. So if you drive more aggressively get v6 if drive like 80yr old get I4 turbo.
@MotoManTV that wireless CarPlay is actually a subscription based service...meaning, in other vehicles where wired CarPlay is free, BMW charges you $80/year...
Not as desirable for a driver as a
GS 350.
Long live the GS.
GS's are dead bro. Too much money for little horsepower
I agree ultrasonic blue Mica 2.0 is incredible!
wow, that's a great video!
No dude Gs will rise again with new shape mark my words it will be
Gs is the best
Your mouth to God's ear . . . :)
طلال الشيخ-Lexus عجيب والله. طيب شايف الأسعار عندهم انت ولا منت شايف. مو شغل الوكيل اللي انت شغال عنده وجالس تسوق له النصاب
A $53K 5 series or E class would be very base, I'd take the Lexus but test drive the G80 looks very tempting
I would choose the Lexus every time as it's the most reliable car out of all the ones you've listed by far!!!
Ist eine Waschmaschine und ein Powerrack dabei?
man he is really trying to load that arsenal in there, on a lexus. great idea
12:19. BMWs are not the only cars that offer wireless Apple CarPlay. Look at the 2019 Audi A6s, A7, A8s, etc.
They can add AWD and make it Sporter and more powerful if it going to replace the GS.
forgot to say the interior door handle and seats are from the LC500
The GS might not be dead, but it’s probably on life support. They could come out with an AWD ES at its mid cycle refresh OR replace the IS & GS with 1 vehicle. There isn’t enough room for all of their sedans in an SUV crazy world.
12:14 I HATE CARPLAY SO THE OPTION TO NOT HAVE IT WIRELESS IS PERFECT FOR ME .. JUST BOUGHT THIS EXACT CAR AND SPECS TODAY THATS WHAT TOOK ME TO THIS VIDEO..
what video did he meet suga-san?
Love the music, the car? Not so much.
Answering Kumo's question is kind of a though one, the 3rd generation G80 is imminent, it could bow at NYIAS. Plus, there's the upcoming Cadillac CT5, but I don't have much confidence in GM lately.
@MotoManTv with the current automotive climate switching towards crossover suv/cuv do you think that we would see more sporty or roomy products in this segment? If not what would be the strategy to attract some of the buyers back? #AskMotoManTV.
CHRIS! You always have the best questions . . . This is a particularly good one. Added to my list and and yes, #AskMotoManTV is coming back in Season 10 . . . with a twist!
Morning Chris! Answered your question here: th-cam.com/video/l-TtkPSZafw/w-d-xo.html
Audi has wireless carplay in the 2019 A6-A7-A8
Awesome review again. But why Toyota review and not Honda?
Access. While what we do is telling stories about cars, it is still very much a business. As such, timely access to cars is a HUGE factor. Get a car too late, the cost of production stays the same but the ROI drops drastically. OEMs pick and choose who they want to do business with, which we have to respect. However, we also get to pick and choose who we do business with based on a number of factors including the cars they produce, ROI, interest level to viewers which is all balanced against timely access. As a small, *independent* media company, all our films have to stand on their own to support our business. As such, if an OEM like Honda chooses not to make us a priority, we may not like it but we still have to control our business and move forward. Key rule in leadership: It's not what you preach - it's what you tolerate. As such, we prioritize those who chose to prioritize us.
Love the backwards clip at 0:45
:)
Nashville native here..... The best thing is definitely the hot chicken. The worst thing is the awful traffic nowadays.
The ongoing joke now is that Nashville is an hour from Nashville.
TOTALLY going to steal that material from you:)
I'm so sorry to hear that.
@@MotoManTV
Cheers 👍
G80 Sport hands down for the money
Gorgeous car, the only downside for me, it’s front wheel drive.
The ES will never be equivalent to a GS for the simple fact that it is not a rear wheel drive in its basic design.
I’d choose the Lexus. I like Hyundai’s products BUT the dealership network is horrendous. I avoid the dealership here in my town because it simply does not feel good to even go in and look for cars, whereas at Lexus, I feel comfortable and have only heard good things from other owners. All things being equal, it’d be a much harder call between the Hyundai and Lexus.
I like this new ES, beautiful car, but between the price and the fact that it cant hold missiles properly is a deal breaker for me.
I like it but the new lexus gs is my favorite car
Way behind on tech. I think that is the reason that most reviewers are predicting the demise of the GS. Lexus appears to have stopped investing in the car's tech goodies (if you care about that sort of thing...)
I like to forget about all the tech. And concentrate on the car. The GSFSPORT RUNS like a real car. This ES IS horrible. I had it for one week. So not for me. If the Gs is terminated. I will just buy the one I have.
Wow...look at that color!
sure a great car but doesn't have the GS soul .
i hope they won't discontinue the GS. that would be a huge loss .
We were looking for a GS until we discovered it needed super unleaded
Is it worth the upgrade from the GS?
I'd say... probably not, although it is improved from the previous generation. The Lexus ES still is great in the premium mid-size sedan segment that's smooth, comfortable, luxurious, easy-to-live with, and now looks great and has pizzazz. Although it's still not rivaling the 5-Series, A6, so on and so forth and rivals the LaCrosse and MKZ, the new ES is overall a guilty pleasure to me, and it's great on what it does in its own world, which no wonder is a big money-maker for Lexus. While I know many people might still call it the gussied-up Camry that it started it's life as, the ES actually shares the same platform with the flagship full-size Avalon sedan now (the new Avalon by the way is almost a masterpiece to me), since the previous generation.
Hoping that Lexus keeps the GS alive however if they really want to show thay they can change their sedan game even more seriously so.... nonetheless, I had good times with the new ES, and I'm curious to see how it holds up.
@Anton Zuykov I know. I'm just interpreting this in a way whether people might consider this to be the GS' successor, even with rumours stating that it might face the chopping block soon.
Put the F-Sport wheels on the regular ES and....VOILA!! Instant F-Sport! :)
The GS IS STILL TOP DAWG!!! I’m sorry I cannot let this ES take its place i will buy the gs our the lease if this is true
Naw, I wouldn't. I would rather get a ES or LS
I'm confused....Is the Lexus ES not a luxury vehicle?
I think HE is confused
Is that a Ford Contour on the lift back there?
Nope . . . An old school Honda Accord. It's the car visitors use when they are in town. I need to cover her up:)
Oh man. That’s cool. Low miles?
I want wireless CarPlay in my next car but don't want to have to buy a BMW :) It's taken about 4 years for nearly all OEMs to get the wired version and it will probably be the same again for wireless. Wireless CarPlay needs a Wifi chip which aren't that common in cars so until they are as common as USB it's going to be a while. I believe Harman makes most of the electronics for the OEM systems and they are starting to roll out a wireless version apparently. Pioneer have an aftermarket unit. Mercedes MBUX supposedly has it but no video evidence in the wild has yet emerged …. although I heard a rumour it was in the newest Sprinter vans already ! The other thing I am after as you know is turn directions on the instrument cluster when navigating with CarPlay maps. Again announced by Apple about three years ago. Not sure why no one does it yet, there must be some technical complication. Even Alpine that do replacement OEM units for VW, Merc etc that use TomTom nav only show directions for TomTom and not CarPlay which I find really strange as they are painting many things to the instrument cluster.
Typical millennial, only concerned with technology and music 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Nick Caesar if only you knew how wrong you are 🤣
Nice review!
Sorry, off-list, I’d choose the new S60 T6 R-Design w/ Polestar tune (330 HP - 325 LB/FT). It has enough rear legroom and trunk cargo to compete. Well actually, every aspect of the Volvo is better except maybe the engine sound.
Giant Lexus “spindle” grill is still laughable.
Looks are subjective, fact is Lexus has sold millions of cars with that grill...
Quite frankly the S60 is generally considered an ugly car. Hence why they hardly sell them.
I'd get the G80. How this ES is different from an Avalon?
Here is a link that lays out clearly, the similarities and differences between the ES350 and the Avalon. Despite similar architecture and what's under the hood.. Lexus gets the nod on design and tech accoutrements. www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/2019-lexus-es-versus-2019-toyota-avalonwhich-is-better-ar181447.html It is also worth noting that pricing is very simiar.
$39,000. Meanwhile, the 2019 Avalon starts at $35,500, depend on how much you want a Lexus. and maybe the where the dealership are.
I have a ES getting the Fsport tomorrow. I was actually about to trade my ES for a avalon touring edition. Avalon drives nothing like a Lexus and the interior is worse in the avalon. Its a big difference
I completely agree about wireless Apple CarPlay. Give me a wireless charger and wireless CarPlay and I'll throw my phone on the charger every time. It's more convenient, safer, and much cleaner looking than having a lightning cable gently looping near the shifter and your phone sticking straight up out of the center console.
Pay attention to the road and not your phone.
Nick Caesar Apple CarPlay is a great way to do exactly that. My comment was about the superiority of wireless CarPlay + inductive charging, over wired CarPlay + charging.
The triple beam headlights cost that much because it looks bad without them
Lexus all the way. 1 Main reason is the fact that the car will be running just as good in 10 ,15 years as it does now. 10 year old Hyundai’s are not as good as a 10 yo Toyota or Lexus for that matter
Living the Dream I still a lot of people driving a 2009 Hyundai Genesis.
Agree. It is one of the major draws of the brand. Build quality and reliability are enduring virtues of a car... long after the shiny honeymoon period has passed.
Toyota really needs to update their interior. The steering wheel and dash are so outdated. How about angling the long screen toward the one person it matters most to, the driver.
The case with BMW or Mercedes these days, is that, they will be partially dead after 3 years, as soon as warranty ends, details start getting broken, and there will be loss 2 or even 3 times in price. That is why Lexus expensive, for what it gives. Reliability.
The Es F Sport or TRD Camery?
Camery is smaller car.
Camrys are for girls. Get a mans car (ES) 😎
I still understand the concept of the ES, its slightly upscale from the avalon and a well rounded car overall, I like the G80 offering better for the driver experience as well as its offering of luxury. some have said Hyundai products suck but I would differ in opinion.
christopher locus I agree the Genesis G80 , looks more upscale, it has more power 311 hp for the 3.8 L V6 and it has the Sport 3.3L TTV6 with 365hp and the V8 with 420 hp so it has many engine options and it has important standard features like driver assistance technologies and convenience features
My 2019 ES hybrid gets 41mpg. But I’m old, and I love my stereo. Also risk averse, so only Japanese cars for me. Did I mention I’m also boring? 🤓
mgmcd1 except the ES is no longer built in Japan. I don’t trust anything built at the TMMK plant. I got nothing but poorly built Toyotas. It got to a point that Akio Toyoda had to make a visit and tell employees to step up, or they will close the plant down.
Carlos Guevara my ES has a J VIN, so was built in Japan. I traded a 4K VIN Avalon hybrid on it that I had no problem with for 5 years.
@@mgmcd1 That's not a new one. The new ones are built in Kentucky. Maybe say, 10 percent are built in Japan. My family has owned Toyotas for 50 years, and 30 of mine. I have a great experience with them. Also I drive them 30k miles a year and get to know their weakness. Toyotas tend to be mechanically from the engine point, fine, but for some reason, their American plants assemble the body and interior pieces very sloppy in the mid 2000s year period. For Akio Toyoda to give them (TMMK) an ultimatum, means I wasn't alone in noticing it. Also, 4 years in, is still considered new. I still recommend Toyotas, and are my favorite manufacturer, but Im not blind to their current growing pains of change within the company during recent years. With the Koreans getting better each day, it woke Toyota up to go back to the old quality days. I will agree that the ES is a smooth car.
Carlos Guevara agreed. I have owned maybe a dozen in the last 20 years, starting with an 87 Corolla around 2000. I haven’t bought anything else. I’ve had a few TSBs, even on Japanese assembled cars, but dodged the 2007 Camry hybrid ring issue by selling early.
No. It’s too big. They need a midsized Camry based. This is Avalon size.
The Lexus hands down, the other cars you mentioned will crap out in 2 years
this es is made for elderly people. it's quiet smooth and comfortable. gs is more sporty then the es
"Wireless charging ... come on Kia has this on standard" MB E=Class does not even have one
What's up with the Shrek-like knobs above the cluster dashboard? Looks off.
Yea, I didn't care for the interior. I know it's subjective, but it didn't appeal to me.
For $49,900 you can get a 2019 Porsche Macan (with full LED headlights and tail lights and Navigation as standard, not optional like ES). Just saying. Make me wonder why pay $52,000 for an ES F Sport that is kind of sort of sporty.
Phil I believe the cost of ownership makes them different.
So you are comparing a luxury sedan with an SUV? Sorry but wrong comparison!
Nice car (not sure I like the Samurai helmet looking instrument cluster or little cheap silver buttons from a 2012 Camry, I don't get it. If Lexus gets rid of GS, not sure I will be a fan anymore. I just traded in my 2010 LS460 (which I loved) for a GS 350 F-Sport, both rear wheel drive. GS has blown me away. LS was a little bloated, like driving a small apartment, while GS is more nimble, sporting driving experience, and perfect interior. I look for reasons to drive it but #corona is raining on my parade. We will all have to get used to living in a world with no rear wheel drive or combustion engines in a few years anyway so I am keeping my GS until the wheel come off which will probably be a very long time.
Yes. I’ll take the fancy Toyota any day.
😂😂 09:30 this is what some people say about Es in Saudi Arabia.
Lexus es350 over base e class or 5 series
Test drove all 3. BMW was sh*t. Mercedes was super comfy and luxury but more expensive.
Lexus was best all around, and best value as well... Not to mention best depreciation/reliability/lowest cost of ownership.
Go for GS.
we need another V6Hybrid and not these overstressed 4cyl !!!
I love my GS. Best decision I ever made, buying Lexus instead of a German made pile
1. An AWD away from nirvana
2. Totally disagree. Looks great, and Lexus cool, in white or graphite with red trim.
Color does not make THIS car
so you live where i used to live. Drove that freeway 2x rimes a day. Orange county. Why you still there. I thought everybody with brain already moved.
great
They better hope so. But as an owner of the New Gs F Sport. Comparing the new ES to the GSFSPORT is like comparing apples to oranges. I was able to have the Es for one week while I had a service issue with my sunroof. Well I couldn’t wait to get my car back. The Front wheel generics are horrible. In my opinion the back felt light and I wanted to put metal barbell weights in the trunk . Like I did in my 78 coupe deville. The head room is considerably lower. Dashboard is outright ugly.
If they end the Gs. I will find another nice car. This Es is certainly not for me. Ugh
It is all up to the person's preference. I do not need a performance car, so I am enjoying my ES 350 F-sport. I do not live in north so I don't need AWD. On rainy days, FWD is better than RWD if the car does not have AWD. GS is more expensive, and requires premium gas. ES does not requires premium, which I did not know until after I purchased it but it is a money saver. Like you mention, GS and ES are made for different purposes, have different targets. You cannot compare them. I considered BMW and Audi before purchasing ES but never GS because GS does not fit my needs or desire. I am not criticizing GS, though, like you are doing so on ES. I am just saying everyone has different views, needs, budget, opinions, and they are all good.
I would choose the Lexus!!!
0:44 lmao
It's a no brainer I would choose the g80 sport
A Hyundai?
@@forex2easy714 Yes I would choose a Hyundai over a Toyota
6 signature and 15k in change.
Like your thought process . . .
I can't lie, the swanky looking G80 with more power than all of them and loaded with features would be hard to pass up with all things equal. (sticker price, lease terms) However if I wanted to keep one of them longer than 3-4 years it would have to be the Lexus ES wich is not likely to break after the warranty ends and hold more of it's value when the time comes to sell or trade in. Having said that, all the same applies to the GS 350 F Sport yet it's better to drive and looks better to my eyes. The downside of the GS is the rear seat room, but it's not that bad really, and I'd never choose a car with passengers as priority. (Yes, I'm a selfish bastard, gulity as charged😁)
I'll keep my 98 gs 400 🙂
Sicily Live 99 gs 335K miles..... and 2020 ES😎
Did he just say *near* luxury?
Starting about 26:50 This shows VW's new MIB 3 Infotainment ... which they publicly say has wireless CarPlay .... It should be in a GT3 soon then :) .... th-cam.com/video/fPKvw6eeKK4/w-d-xo.html
Hmmm.... this car or camry XSE
This car, trust me. Camrys are for girls
Bring back the GS
Lexus AWD???? Come on????
Complete speculation that there will be no future GS. In your reviews if you don't know the facts don't say it!
Take your advice.
So people walk backwards now in California? Crazy...
Always have . . . they just have been hiding until I got here:)
should have been awd
F Sport on Lexuses is utter nonsense - but they look cool and sell well!
Or.... the new larger IS is replacing the GS.
I think that a short wheelbase LS F Sport will eventually take the GS’s place.
GS> ES. ES is just a Camry with Lexus touch