The CAS Speedrun

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    Planes that provide close air support in tank battles have become rather infamous in War Thunder, as they are incredibly powerful and easy to spawn. Because of this, I wanted to see just how quickly one could get into a plane.
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    The CAS Speedrun

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  • @Spookston
    @Spookston  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2431

    I cannot emphasize this enough; do not try to replicate this. I was making a point about CAS SP costs.

    • @TheGrace020
      @TheGrace020 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      😭😭😭

    • @scarecrow443
      @scarecrow443 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

      You are too late, people are gonna do it anyway... they already are for the most part.

    • @vdv_snp5414
      @vdv_snp5414 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Attempt #57: Avenge from CAS and play the Shturm-S as a SAM

    • @Last_Baguette0001
      @Last_Baguette0001 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      💀

    • @bonnibelio_
      @bonnibelio_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Spookston, hate to break it to you but people already do this on a regular basis
      ( yeah you already know that better than me )

  • @exoticdachoo007
    @exoticdachoo007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2159

    Suicide CAS on a ZIS-30 after dropping a bomb instead of the MG is probably the most CAS player thing to do

    • @UltimEVB
      @UltimEVB 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No reply

  • @Simon-tr9hv
    @Simon-tr9hv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +702

    It's hilarious, you can spawn in a light tank, 1 scout assist, 1 actual assist, dies, spawn in a a2d with 8000lb bombload

    • @5co756
      @5co756 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      This load out is actually wrong , this would never lift off the ground.

    • @donk5058
      @donk5058 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The real big brain move is spewing in an spaa and rushing a point since they only cost 70 points

    • @yapalskippy1807
      @yapalskippy1807 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@5co756 🤓

    • @zwang7050
      @zwang7050 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      yes I play usa 7.0 like this all the time.

    • @deadlywrath.8636
      @deadlywrath.8636 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@5co756you can take two 2000lb bombs and eight 500lb bombs which in total is 8000 pounds of ordinance

  • @jordananderson2728
    @jordananderson2728 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1681

    He's become the very thing he swore to destroy!

    • @tirushone6446
      @tirushone6446 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

      "You die a tank main or live long enought to see yourself become a CAS main."

    • @HossBlacksilver
      @HossBlacksilver 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ya beat me to it. 😂

  • @crazeelazee7524
    @crazeelazee7524 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +388

    Gaijin's takeaway from this video is that CAS needs to spawn closer to the battle area

    • @kakmakt
      @kakmakt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      or use milage points to get CAS planes, like the airlines do 😀

    • @takingpigon8478
      @takingpigon8478 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      And to make it possible to spawn a plane as your first spawn

  • @LimeInDisguise
    @LimeInDisguise 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5045

    bro i was that zis-30, you’ve betrayed me

    • @LimeInDisguise
      @LimeInDisguise 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1109

      After 50 days of asking for the zis-30 thats what i get 😔

    • @Ten_NE_Ten
      @Ten_NE_Ten 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +473

      Punishment for bushes lmao

    • @AhAh-yh6es
      @AhAh-yh6es 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      @@LimeInDisguisehe already did the zis 30

    • @LimeInDisguise
      @LimeInDisguise 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

      @@AhAh-yh6es yeah that was me, im the one who requested it before

    • @triplus198
      @triplus198 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      ​@@LimeInDisguisedo you have tips? I'm 62 days in and he won't play su-122.

  • @jasonzhou5783
    @jasonzhou5783 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +179

    Me still seeing CAS defenders in the subreddit insist that CAS is "earned" and therefore fair and balanced. Some of those same people also saying SPAA is OP because it is "too easy to kill people that "earned" CAS."

    • @goodmusic4673
      @goodmusic4673 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      that sounds like people without skill having a problem with people that stop them from beeing assholes xD

    • @LokiV_WT
      @LokiV_WT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      best part is SPAA players arent rewarded for killing planes

    • @leopard2a786
      @leopard2a786 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      CAS defenders have less IQ points than a decrepit snapping turtle…

    • @BaATep
      @BaATep 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@LokiV_WTair kills are rewarded more than ground kills

    • @LokiV_WT
      @LokiV_WT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@BaATep nope they're not, they earn less sl and rp

  • @QHRRFY
    @QHRRFY 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +737

    ‘ You Either Die a Hero or Live Long Enough to See Yourself Become the Villain ‘

    • @HilochieTudor
      @HilochieTudor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Batman

    • @HossBlacksilver
      @HossBlacksilver 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@HilochieTudorNot the Spookton we need, but the Spookton we deserve.

  • @MaliciousGrim05
    @MaliciousGrim05 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The amount of cavemen that start screeching about how CAS is fine whenever a post gets made about there needing to be a ground only mode really tells you all you need to know about how many people do this brainrot play style of rushing one kill/cap/assist, so that they can immediately spawn a plane.
    If there was a ground only option they wouldn't have anyone to speedbomb, as the only ones left playing 'combined battles' would be people just like themselves and the ones that need to kill planes with spaa for some task.
    Sidenote: God I wish I had the pak Puma.

  • @VanityOrdies
    @VanityOrdies 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +964

    i played a match, saw a m18 at 8.7, he rushed one singular cap, spawned a jet.

    • @WeeWoo6up
      @WeeWoo6up 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Respect the hustle 🤷

    • @donk5058
      @donk5058 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That’s how we like to play the game

    • @endjfcar
      @endjfcar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah it was a real struggle to spawn in a fighter back then too

    • @claing17
      @claing17 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Absolute Chad.

    • @leopard2a786
      @leopard2a786 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@donk5058Must be pretty uneventful then, all you have to do is look for a target and call it a day…

  • @TioWiki
    @TioWiki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    The worst cas players are the ones that bring 1 tank and a full line-up of planes

  • @teppygray4314
    @teppygray4314 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +362

    spookston you should play the pantsir to satisfy your hatred of cas

    • @Aviation_Enthusiast_737
      @Aviation_Enthusiast_737 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      For sure

    • @costi4902
      @costi4902 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Or for lower tiers you can try the zerstorer 45, ostwind 1 and 2 and wirbelwind anti cas lineup (or even anti tank role with this lineup)

    • @purplfedora800
      @purplfedora800 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@costi4902 Whirbelwind is probably one of the best anti-CAS vehicles in the game tier-for-tier. It's my go-to SPAA when I need to get SPAA kills or shoot down planes for a battle pass challenge because it has the perfect balance of fire rate and damage. Granted, I haven't really used many other SPAA's, but I do know that anti-air vehicles with low fire rate and high damage like the M19A1 aren't as good at hitting planes, and anti-air vehicles with high fire rate and low damage like the M16 aren't as good at actually damaging the planes.

    • @fre_
      @fre_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TY-90

  • @Volhaas
    @Volhaas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    One of the most hated thing imo when you finally take down a plane and it happens to be a few BRS lower than what ur playing and you get fuckall reward.

  • @yharon774
    @yharon774 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    A few days ago, me and my friend accidentaly invented a new tactic. I was the T95 and he was L3. He stood near a wall and I wanted to prank him by squashing him so I backed up to the wall. The L3 got stuck in my tank but he was still alive. So I thought that he is a teammate and he can help with my repairs. We tried this 2 more times and it is so good. It significantly reduces the repair time on the T95 and it is fun to use. You should try this.

    • @bickboose9364
      @bickboose9364 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      VoreThunder moment

    • @Chase92488
      @Chase92488 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bickboose9364 "om nom nom"

  • @FatherGrigori
    @FatherGrigori 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +799

    One time at top tier I had been killed by cas twice within the first 5 minutes, and then I third time not long after. It's just so exhausting

    • @Led_WT
      @Led_WT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      spaa: i simply dont exist

    • @breezy5673
      @breezy5673 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

      @@Led_WT Spaa getting killed by the 32 airplanes in the air: yep I don't exist anymore

    • @Led_WT
      @Led_WT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@breezy5673 when i play with it, no aircraft stood a chance lmao

    • @fuckinantipope5511
      @fuckinantipope5511 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Led_WTSPAA is way harder to play than CAS.
      The Gepard is one of the best gun SPAAs but it struggles still.
      I easily defeated one that blasted me in my Strikemaster Jet, so an aircraft 2.0 BR lower in BR that should be easily shredded by radar SPAA. Nope, he failed and got bombed by me.
      SPAA is outclassed big time

    • @loganwalker8537
      @loganwalker8537 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      usually J out after when i see a asshole with a plane coming at me and then go to the next match

  • @redgator7250
    @redgator7250 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    M18 Hellcat, yolo rushes, spots like 3 people, spawns in plane, suicide bomb those three people, then again jumps back into that plane and continues to spawn camp the entire game. Thats been my experience. usually like 5-8 of them every game.

  • @TheNoahConstrictor
    @TheNoahConstrictor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +717

    Day 11 of asking Spookston to play the T-10M

    • @TheGrace020
      @TheGrace020 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      T10-A!!!!!

    • @mailo22333
      @mailo22333 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be nice

    • @goodguyguy5022
      @goodguyguy5022 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh no a heavy tank this is gonna be fun too watch

    • @SovietUnion_
      @SovietUnion_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@TheGrace020T10A is just as miserable as IS3 and IS6

    • @Smoothbore1962
      @Smoothbore1962 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheGrace020T-10M is the tech tree version of the T-10A. Nearly the same vehicle.

  • @SZ_craft01
    @SZ_craft01 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    my night routine:
    -going to kitchen
    -making a hot chocolate
    -drinking it while watching spookston
    -finishing the hot chocolate
    -going to bed

  • @ActuallyEarth
    @ActuallyEarth 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +612

    CAS mains spamming how CAS isn't overpowered and to just play SPAA

    • @bubsy3861
      @bubsy3861 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Game has ho balance in general. Lets remove cas, then stones and trees, then lets make a map flat as my gf and then, maybe, we can talk about balancing something.
      Only thing that need to be done about planes its increasing spawn cost by 25%.

    • @leevin7546
      @leevin7546 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +167

      @@bubsy3861 Bro's making a slippery-slope argument about fucking nerfing cas lmao

    • @dhmhtrhs.
      @dhmhtrhs. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      @@bubsy3861 or maybe dont let cas spawn until like 8 minutes have passed??? 😭😭😭😭 25% is so small of an increase

    • @alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289
      @alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dhmhtrhs. Majority of games don't last 8 minutes goofy ass lmao

    • @ActuallyEarth
      @ActuallyEarth 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @bubsy3861 Dude that's only 600 for fighters and barely over 1000 for like a fully loaded vehicle, that's not hard to regularly get. Using extremist arguments for your point of view doesn't dimish the reasoning of my point

  • @edgepup4471
    @edgepup4471 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +207

    My hatred of Planes made me go to the SPAA SIDE

    • @jaspergerz01
      @jaspergerz01 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Getting repeatedly bullied by american cas broke me, now I try to have a dedicated SPAA slot in all of my lineups.

    • @PC-coolant-pipe-sucker
      @PC-coolant-pipe-sucker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jaspergerz01 you didn't before?

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@jaspergerz01 Everyone should. Its just stupid to not take spaa, unless you are so bad, that you cant even get enough points for normal vehicles by killing light tanks.

    • @o-hogameplay185
      @o-hogameplay185 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      not like any CAS used by the worst CAS enjoyer can outrange any SPAA, but okay

    • @yourtypicalyoutubeguy
      @yourtypicalyoutubeguy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      my hatred of SPAA made me go to the PLANE SIDE

  • @wildonion99
    @wildonion99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    The BS with planes now is why I made some clear overlays for my monitor, with each one being for a specific AA vehicle. It lets me erase air from ~7-8km reliably with a single burst, long before they get into bomb range. 9-10km takes a few shots, but it works. Being the sky chemo is rewarding morally, if not fiscally. Thanks gaijiggles.

    • @bickboose9364
      @bickboose9364 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Brother, with great power comes great responsibility! You have a moral obligation of helping fellow tankmen eradicate the CAS menace.
      Please post details of these magical "overlays" somewhere to be easily found!

    • @2077_cyberfrog
      @2077_cyberfrog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Tell us more

    • @RealDudeee
      @RealDudeee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      who cares

    • @SAK11RA
      @SAK11RA หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RealDudeeeMe

    • @AttacMage
      @AttacMage 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@RealDudeee i do

  • @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
    @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +132

    So the "Leaks" are saying that in the next update, we're getting the Benelux (Belgium & the Netherlands) as a sub tree for France. I hope this is true, we can finally have the T13 tank destroyer, the T15 light tank, the SIBMAS (Belgian copy of the Ratel), the M39 Pantserwagen, the Boxer armored car, and so many aircraft too.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      the ACEC Cobra series of vehicles are pretty neet

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@matthiuskoenig3378 Also navy! They can get K2 before it was captured by germans, and that is already enough, its my favorite silly boat.

    • @jackeyboy6538
      @jackeyboy6538 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I love this comment on this video specifically, like you saw this and said “…. Sooo anyway we’re getting some cool new vehicles”

    • @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
      @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jackeyboy6538 I mean, I did talk about the Kungstiger (When it was still part of the leak list for the previous update) on a video with the Strv m/41.

    • @1999Almaz
      @1999Almaz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      France gets something? No way, they likely to copypaste premium Leclerc for chinese P2W players and then forget about whole tree for a year or so

  • @cheesegrater..
    @cheesegrater.. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    player base: its too easy to spawn in a plane
    gaijin: best i can do is a scout and a kill assist.

  • @goodguyguy5022
    @goodguyguy5022 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    We can fucking speedrun warthunder now is crazy

  • @simplsquam
    @simplsquam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Fix CAS by giving all CAS players free therapy sessions to discover why they lack any empathy

  • @kabob0077
    @kabob0077 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    3:10 You OBLITERATED him! That Seismic Charge sound is fitting for the level of damage you did to that poor man.

  • @yordobelps
    @yordobelps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Gaijin should bring back the old spawn point costs from like 6 years ago where if you died without getting any score you were out of the game. You actually had to try and be good to remain in the match

    • @adam19hun
      @adam19hun 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Sure, a guy spawns in and does this, nukes a T95 that barely left their spawn, and completely eliminates them from the match.
      Fun.

    • @yordobelps
      @yordobelps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@adam19hun you do realize what I said right? How new are you?

    • @shronkler1994
      @shronkler1994 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      i think we should have grace for players.. surely you've been on the receiving end of a bad start to the match where you die instantly
      or even one where you die instantly, respawn and end up doing very good in another vehicle
      besides, this only punishes people like the avenger at the beginning of the game that died with little to no score. they're out of the match, but spookston already got his score, his SP and can spawn in a plane.

    • @yordobelps
      @yordobelps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@shronkler1994 you also haven't experienced the old system have you? You weren't able to get into a plane off of 1 kill. It took at least 2 tank kills to be able to repsawn in another tank, to get into a plane it took like 3 kills and a cap because bombers were like 1000sp and fighters were 600sp

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@yordobelps Why not keep those costs for planes but the new ones for ground?

  • @ragnarokinfall8565
    @ragnarokinfall8565 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    CAS needs either higher cost of SP or a limiter of how many planes can be up, I once had a match were most of my teammates where on planes with only like 3 or 4 tanks.

    • @barrag3463
      @barrag3463 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I personally think there should be limitations on the kind of munitions available as well. As in, no bombs larger than 500 lbs (and even that's pushing it).

    • @theasiangod5860
      @theasiangod5860 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Air superiority means its easier for ground units to get where they want with air support, intercepting enemy ground and air.

    • @Simon-tr9hv
      @Simon-tr9hv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Once I faced like 8 enemy plane in the air at same time while my team had 3 or 4, like at this point why even call it groud

    • @combinetheelite
      @combinetheelite 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@theasiangod5860agreed but air should be limited, especially at higher tiers with guided munitions

    • @simplsquam
      @simplsquam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@theasiangod5860until there aren't enough teammates to cap the points and you lose by ticket bleed

  • @thedreamchasers7252
    @thedreamchasers7252 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The fact that you constantly kamikazeed into the enemy tanks was great, that's the best way to play CAS

  • @LugborG
    @LugborG 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    I look forward to seeing the speedrun community try to optimize this. Could be more competitive than SMB1 any %.

    • @georgekosko5124
      @georgekosko5124 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In terms of research points/hour this is probably the most effect strategy.

    • @Opalthira
      @Opalthira 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can probably do it in like 1 minute - 1:30 on that first map if he just rushed the A or C cap instead of driving for a whole minute around the map because that map spawns you so damn close to the battlefield when you're in an aircraft.

  • @kirishima638
    @kirishima638 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    No. 1 reason I quit this game.

  • @arlobones3410
    @arlobones3410 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I’ve been able to spawn the French Corsair with 114 SNEBs and three 1000lb bombs with as little as two assists iirc

  • @YukitoOnline
    @YukitoOnline 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Spook playing CAS!?
    *" It was said that you would destroy the CAS, not join them! "*

  • @justaweirdtree9645
    @justaweirdtree9645 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    Fastest CAS kill for me was from using the Jumbo 76 on a really small map and instantly got in a F8F with 1000lbs bombs. Took about 1m18s. Did them real dirty.

    • @reinni2968
      @reinni2968 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Kinda doubt it but ok

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@reinni2968 Probably that one map with lots of hills and almost direct view from one spawn to another.

    • @connivingkhajiit
      @connivingkhajiit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@alexturnbackthearmy1907 likely ardennes. That shit has me getting shot on a new match before the immunity drops.

    • @MarderFokker
      @MarderFokker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Nah probably Advance To the Rhine, i always die because i dont expect seeing enemies after driving for 10 seconds

  • @SemoventeDa
    @SemoventeDa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Day 186 of asking Spookston to play the Semovente 75/46 M43.
    DON'T YOU DARE FORGET ABOUT ME

    • @paulopratta9917
      @paulopratta9917 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Any semovente would be great I was thinking about the 90/53 M41M

  • @TanKail
    @TanKail 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    The Tables have finally turned, Spookston became the very thing he tried to destroy.

  • @suspiciouslysouthdakotian
    @suspiciouslysouthdakotian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    The simple solution to fixing CAS in Ground RB is to make all aircraft (except heavy bombers which have a high SP cost) spawn at the airfield.
    Then, all it would take would be one person playing a fighter to have control of the battlefield airspace. Enemy fighters would then have to dogfight for CAS to have a chance of making it to drop their ordinance. Of course they would need to make the tickets last longer for this dynamic to take place lol.

    • @boisq97
      @boisq97 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      also move the airfield to like 15k km away and give every plane 30sec max of fuel

    • @Ninjia202
      @Ninjia202 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I hate to say but you’ve just described jets and it doesn’t fix it much

    • @phaeronseherekh1754
      @phaeronseherekh1754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      another is to have CAS ordinance for anything but the proper dedicated bombers like the stukas or heavy bombers be extremely expensive spawn point wise, easily over 100 spawn points, allows fighters to spawn in cheaper than bombers as they do now but also not so much so that a fighter bomber can spawn in with a similar bombload to some of the weaker strategic/tactical bombers while also being cheaper and capable of defending themselves.

    • @r1zmy
      @r1zmy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      combine that with making it so that each ground explosive ordinance has a much higher spawn cost in ground rb so that it's cheaper to get into a fighter to dogfight bombers.

    • @_Zekken
      @_Zekken 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If you do that, the first fighter in the air basically makes his team win the skies automatically.
      Unless he seriously fucks up, you basically wouldnt be able to get off the airfield and gain the altitude or airspeed to challenge him, it'd be a free turkey shoot until he runs out of ammo.

  • @War_Thunder_Cat
    @War_Thunder_Cat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    It would be sick if you played the M103 but brought an AA or a plane to counter Cas

  • @randomdude1730
    @randomdude1730 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “Do not try to replicate this.”
    Oh buddy..
    _who’s gonna stop me?_

  • @nellylalola4038
    @nellylalola4038 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Good day, Spookton. Might I beseech thee to consider crafting a video of exquisite charm and erudition, showcasing the magnificence of the Leopard A1A1

  • @nimblemesh
    @nimblemesh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I feel like if CAS became balanced it would make tanks more fun due to not being cas'd every 6 seconds but also make CAS kills feel more rewarding due to the bigger challenge

    • @hengry2
      @hengry2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Just play sim, it’s everything cas should be

  • @SunsetSlot
    @SunsetSlot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Attempt 19 Challenge: For high tier support a nations MBT with its respective APC/IFV counterpart (ie Abrams/Bradley, T90/BMP2M, etc.) Challenge is keeping the other player alive and supporting it without stealing kills (breaking barrels, tracking, repairing, etc) it being a random should help make it interesting.

  • @raginasiangaming910
    @raginasiangaming910 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I think of going back to War Thunder, Spookston is always there to stop me.

  • @sparkytomas
    @sparkytomas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I wanna see a Malzi Spookston collab on the point of how much both of them get absolutely CAS'ed

  • @yungeendax4635
    @yungeendax4635 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m mostly an anti CAS pilot and I think there needs to be a punishment for crashing your aircraft just to get a kill . Like there should be a 2 hour crew lock minimum

  • @smonk3074
    @smonk3074 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Ty for the tutorial! Gonna go do this now.

  • @therealspeedwagon1451
    @therealspeedwagon1451 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We need another May Revolution like last year but this time about how insanely easy it is to spawn in CAS.
    I also wish there was just more historical accuracy in mid to high tier matches. I don’t want to see America and the USSR on the same team beyond the mid tier. I also want East and West Germany and Italy and Hungary on separate teams.

  • @Mousy-np1nc
    @Mousy-np1nc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Spookston you should play the f-82 it’s one of the best anti CAS

  • @AaronGarner-i8f
    @AaronGarner-i8f 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Day 42 of asking you to play the Challenger 2 Black Knight Spook, the hard kill APS can even intercept aircraft munitions which will help with your CAS issue! You may also want to take some HESH, as they have improved its consistency against single layer homogeneous armour since the last update.

  • @goodguyguy5022
    @goodguyguy5022 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dawg I got a scout and could get a plane

  • @Ko_Kasumi
    @Ko_Kasumi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not sure what's worse, how easy it is to spawn a plane, or the fact that you get barely any spawn points for shooting down planes. Because at least if the latter actually rewarded you significantly more would be willing to get good at aa or spawn CAP. I don't know how much SP you actually get per plane kill, but when I bully the American players at 5.3 with my zero I get basically nothing.

  • @JohnDoe-kw9ex
    @JohnDoe-kw9ex 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love the unloved M47 Patton day 143!

    • @crimsonvictory8393
      @crimsonvictory8393 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The M47 is pretty fun with its turret speed.

  • @aclevername7973
    @aclevername7973 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You can also do it using reserve tanks and a longer bomb timer, and reloading at airfield, but yeah, anything fast and cheap to spawn works, they should just triple the cost of AtG munitions and halve the cost of AtA, plane in tank battle users cant complain about that.

  • @oggyfroggy8366
    @oggyfroggy8366 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This humble fastest clicker from the north asks spookston to try war thunder mobile

  • @GoldRaven-oe4by
    @GoldRaven-oe4by 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Should just have ground battles which is just.. ground vehicles and then have mixed battles with air and ground vehicles problem solved

  • @Freesorin837
    @Freesorin837 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    You know there are other ways they could balance CAS without limiting the players' access to them. Chiefly by making planes take off from the airfield when spawned, letting players switch vehicles in the spawn zone without wasting the one they're in, being able to scout planes, etc. Honestly I think ground vehicles shouldn't have spawn costs at all, just let players take out their entire lineup at least once.

    • @ReginAld15429
      @ReginAld15429 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Isnt arcade mode plays like that?

    • @ArturoLopez-ly2pn
      @ArturoLopez-ly2pn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Being able to scout planes would be huge

    • @riccardomariani9648
      @riccardomariani9648 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Trust me you don't want top tier russia to bring out the WHOLE line up

    • @vittoriovenetov9655
      @vittoriovenetov9655 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@riccardomariani9648 You easily can to tier has lower spawn cost Ive died 10 times and sitll been fighting

    • @pencilcase8068
      @pencilcase8068 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@ReginAld15429arcade has a limit of 3 spawns unless that changed

  • @bunger5578
    @bunger5578 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    one time, i got a single *hit*, not a kill, not even an assist, not even a penetrating hit, i literally nonpenned a guy then died and got to spawn in a plane with a 1000 pounder. cas is busted man

  • @stuffzie8329
    @stuffzie8329 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    4:12
    The reason CAS at mid BRs is OP, colorized

  • @valen8880
    @valen8880 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If players could spawn spaa and kill planes with no way to defend themselves as they take off in air rb, players would be up in arms about it, and rightly so. But when the exact same thing happens to tanks it’s actually the tanks fault because they wanted to use a tank instead of sitting in spaa waiting for planes the whole game. It’s not uncommon at this point for me to not even get the chance to do anything because I’m killed by CAS twice before I can reach the battle, leaving me out of sp.

  • @kayezero703
    @kayezero703 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain

  • @StudleyDuderight
    @StudleyDuderight 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Please, please, please, please encourage keeping it easy to spawn fighters rigged for air combat. CAP(Combat Air Patrol) is my primary method of keeping CAS spam in check, and I am damn good at it. I'm not the greatest at ground, so making it more difficult to get SP for aircraft will mean I will have a harder time getting into the air to fight off CAS.
    My proposal: Special air belts that do very little damage to ground targets. Keep the SP cost for fighters and interceptors low and make the special belts SP free. AAMs should also not contribute to total SP cost. Also, ordnance is really the main problem with CAS, so just making that and AP belts more expensive will go a long way to curbing the CAS problem. Edit: Oh yeah, and the amount and sizes of ordnance available in ground battles is too much. Funny as it is, there is no justifiable reason for the bunker busting bombs to exist outside of air battles. Maybe if Gaijin makes a combined arms EC mode I could see them as necessary, but definitely not G RB/SB. And then... The sheer amount of ordnance some aircraft have access to is utterly ridiculous, especially at top tier. I average about 4 tanks per air spawn when I play CAS. Note: I offset that with an air K/D of around 9:1, in G RB.
    I could go on and on about this, but my comment is long enough already. Hopefully my position and point on CAS have been made sufficiently clear.

    • @phaeronseherekh1754
      @phaeronseherekh1754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I generally agree, several aircraft in certain nations already have an air target belt that is just HE or HEI which makes them mostly harmless to ground targets. Significantly spiking CAS ordinance costs (particularly for fighters who are much more able to be a threat to other air targets than something like a Stuka or B-34) should make things less egregious, a helicopter with ATGMs should not be comparable in spawn cost to a heavy fighter with just HE loaded.

    • @StudleyDuderight
      @StudleyDuderight 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@phaeronseherekh1754 Just increasing ordnance SP costs would go a long way to reigning in the problem.

  • @Crosseyedcat167
    @Crosseyedcat167 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    just want to say i just got an account and i have loved your channel for like 5 years and i just want to say keep up the good work and ill always love what you make.

    • @Crosseyedcat167
      @Crosseyedcat167 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ?

    • @Crosseyedcat167
      @Crosseyedcat167 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bickboose9364 so why did you reply to me?

    • @bickboose9364
      @bickboose9364 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Crosseyedcat167 I thought you recently made a *Gaijin* (WarThunder) account. I now think you meant you've made a TH-cam account? My apologies if that's the case.

  • @Orodreth888
    @Orodreth888 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You can get into a plane for one kill assist due to spotting. It is insane

  • @ignacio1171
    @ignacio1171 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm a CAS player, and get your frustration, but I like spawning in planes for Ground RB.
    I think that there should be a separate mode, where you can from the get go jump into planes or ground vehicles, and play on a huge Sim style map , and have dynamic objectives to create team work and combined arms attacks.

    • @doktork3406
      @doktork3406 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Or even simpler, like a ground only gamemode. Buuut, you really don't want that because you're worried that pretty much all tank players will migrate to that and you;d be out of food.
      You know CAS is abusive, you like abusing it and you know the people's matches you end really don't like it because you're interrupting fun... but you don't want it to end.
      Get your father back by stopping the dopamine farm, you don't need this for fulfillment or enjoyment.

    • @ignacio1171
      @ignacio1171 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@doktork3406 lol ok... I love zooming over the battefield providing support for teammates in distress, scouting the map and clearing objectives from hostiles. Nothing better than having a teammate mark a gridpoint asking for support and eliminating the threat. I don't find it overly abusive especially now with really powerful SPAA vehicles and bomb and rocket nerfs
      Ground pounding in Air RB doesn't offer this feel, as the battles are rarely dictated by ground forces anymore, and it's hard to actually get a good game in.

    • @_Zekken
      @_Zekken 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@doktork3406have you ever thought that maybe people just like flying planes?
      Theres hundreds of them in the game, and yet more than half of them are completely pointless to fly in the stale fighter TDM mode that is air RB.
      I fly planes, and fly them almost exclusively in GRB because I have fun finding, identifying, and dogfighting with enemy planes in a way that air RB doesnt provide.
      I literally couldnt give less of a fuck if you think im just playing to "abuse" it because im not. Im flying planes because I like flying planes, end of.
      I dont owe you or anyone else who refuses to learn to fly a plane well enough to come shoot me down anything. And yet im still perfectly capable of winning games in a tank as well. Dumbasses claim tanks take skill and planes dont while Ive been sitting in a 3.7 chaffee the last few days top 3 on the team in most of my games with a 5.7 lineup farming tiger 2s and shit because all these morons are so oblivious.

  • @JetS_Gamer
    @JetS_Gamer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    May you possibly bring the falcon to top tier?? I tried and got a nuke in my first game

  • @Mister_Clean
    @Mister_Clean 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is so hilariously scummy
    It hurts my soul 😢

  • @S_1_L_3_N_C_3
    @S_1_L_3_N_C_3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Spookston, I’m afraid your casner is terminal, I’m gonna have to prescribe you permanent useless sabot

  • @markergaming
    @markergaming 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Months in and I'm still asking spook to play the m103 but only using he

  • @morganrae2121
    @morganrae2121 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We all know you love Brittish tanks. So play the Churchill 1 😊

  • @kurosumomo
    @kurosumomo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just locking CAS to first person view would fix 50% of the issues with it.

  • @jacksonlarson6099
    @jacksonlarson6099 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Aiming the bofors just feels impossible in most circumstances. The M42 suffers.

  • @windowsexe6084
    @windowsexe6084 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The guy you killed has a very fitting name at 11:22 in the video. lol

  • @crabhm5537
    @crabhm5537 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can make this even shorter by being the average top tier heli player, who rockets me at the start of the match and then dies 4 seconds later

  • @jakubkrzyzaniak5920
    @jakubkrzyzaniak5920 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean... It seams like my teamates were doing this all my matches, leaving after 1 cap or kill and going into a plane at the start of the match.

  • @Godfirst.Christfirst
    @Godfirst.Christfirst 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had 5 deaths in a battle 4 to Cas one to a flanking tank

  • @JerichoTheBeagle
    @JerichoTheBeagle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have mixed feelings about planes being easy to spawn. A team that's dominating doesn't really need CAS while the other team needs all the help they can get. But then, I've seen US-Germany teams throw the match because after capping all the points, they rush spawn, die, and suddenly the Air Force and Luftwaffe are buzzing around while the other team just retakes the caps and holds. I'm not sure what the solution is, but I'd be a lot happier if heavy bombers were banned from ground mode. I swear to God if I'm retaking a capture point and one more dude who thinks he's the Protagonist of War Thunder tells me to get off of the cap so he can "nuke" it, I *will* find a way to physically manifest in his house with ill intent

    • @simplsquam
      @simplsquam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have never seen the losing team have effective cas, everyone just ends up dumping points into breaking out of spawn

    • @silmerialoriel9632
      @silmerialoriel9632 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@simplsquam But i've already seen the losing team calling CAS on me, which was the only player in my team NOT spawncamping their asses .

  • @northropi2027
    @northropi2027 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't play War Thunder and this is part of why but like from the opposite end of the equation. This game doesn't have CAS players, it has tank players who use and abuse CAS for easy kills. Yeah, I'm gatekeeping "real pilots" like an Ace Combat character.
    I don't know how in theory the game can fix this. Like tank-only RB would be a step but then the combined arms mode is still shit. Nerf CAS through spawn points, sure, but then anyone who actually *enjoys* bringing planes is going to get donked because now they gotta play tanks for three-quarters of the match when planes are their preference. Do we just quarantine planes to Hell forever? Can combined arms ever work without planes being prohibitively costly instakill devices you only ever play for ten seconds at a time, even of you're willing to implement fantastical sci-fi solutions to equalize ground and air in unrealistic ways? What if I *like* playing planes but want to play *with* tank people? War Thunder by design is not interested in answering most of those questions but it sure does suck no one seems to want to try to.

  • @LoneWolf-kw3ol
    @LoneWolf-kw3ol 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Day 22 of asking Spookston to continue the T-34 Casemate series and play the Su-100 or the Su-122P, the former being one of my personal favorite vehicles of WT.
    Ngl CAS is about 50% of the reason i quit WT for 6 months after only 1-2 months of playing.

  • @michaeld.uchiha9084
    @michaeld.uchiha9084 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the AA vehicles in low and mid tier all need a buff to better counter CAS.
    Also max two planes at the same time allowed for each team.

  • @thundercho
    @thundercho 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    War Thunder was first and foremost an air battle game, then it added ground forces, and later naval craft. It can't get away from having air vehicles in any battle mode. Why don't they just call it air with ground targets or air with naval targets? It takes a lot less skill to fly a plane with a bomb load and hit a ground target, than it does to drive a ground vehicle around various terrain and get an advantage over other ground vehicles to destroy them. CAS should be restricted to a greater degree.

    • @silmerialoriel9632
      @silmerialoriel9632 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In closed beta, Ground forces had their own game mode . Removed too soon ...

    • @bickboose9364
      @bickboose9364 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gaijin are greedy scum.

  • @cccc285
    @cccc285 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My squadron has been leaving in droves because of CAs abuse. It’s kind of sad because I want to push through it but it’s so difficult to play tanks now because you get punished for trying to play tanks in a tank game mode. I’m considering leaving soon aswell it’s just unplayable especially when you get entire teams hiding in planes to avoid playing tanks seemingly. I just wish you weren’t punished for playing tanks and were actually able to make it longer than 3 minutes. It’s simply unplayable and for demotivating

  • @Quan-lei
    @Quan-lei 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At least your suicide bombing to an extent, I've seen players at 8.0 start a match, get no kills, and like 2 assists spawn an American jet, then proceed to get 7 kills off his first load, rearm and get upto 15kills. Eventually got shot down then leave the match

  • @GarlicKnot5
    @GarlicKnot5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Funny you said people legit play like this because I didn’t believe it until yesterday-the same day you posted this-when I saw a guy get a bt-5, capture c, j out, get an il-2, then strafe the tank in front of me. Maybe he got inspiration from this video, who knows.

  • @giovannifoulmouth7205
    @giovannifoulmouth7205 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You don't even need an assist, kill or cap to spawn a plane, just hitting an enemy a few times is enough. Every hit is like 20 damage and you get enough SP to spawn a fighter with only 160 damage which I repeat doesn't have to pen, just hits, for bombers you need a little more.

  • @3ZPaNH0L
    @3ZPaNH0L 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think a way of fixing the CAS problem would be to add objectives outside the main play area, where you could complete objectives that help the team, give you points, and hurt the enemy, like destroying arty positions that would deny the enemy teams arty for awhile

  • @YoroiTheThicc
    @YoroiTheThicc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So glad I stopped playing this game, it's impossible to play ground without getting harassed by a loser with no kills on an op plane

  • @petn8211
    @petn8211 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    even funnier when spaa that stands a chance against planes keep going up in br (whether they can tank hunt or not, see skink).
    6.7 forwards saw alot of cas that made ground just outright unplayable, worst i remember were saabs and the other similar hilariously undertiered and brainrot easy to get "early jet bombers", always the nastiest people playing them aswell.
    but hey those no lifers pushed alot of people out of the WT grind, still sad that this is the only game like it, had alot of fun with the grittyness of it and ballistic properties.

  • @adamm2943
    @adamm2943 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Recently I had a match, were I flanked enemy killed 5 then got bombed by f4u and I was like "yep I upset someone, seems fair", then I respawned in my backup and 5 planes including a2d's and am1's and that corsair were spawn bombing our spawn

  • @typhoon1575
    @typhoon1575 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    day 15 of asking Spookston to play the M60A1 AOS
    it suffers at 8.3 but it can at least pair with the F9F-8 so you can hunt CAS when it inevitably kills you.

  • @ferdiouimaisnon
    @ferdiouimaisnon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Day 4 of asking Spookston to play the t92

  • @Patches-vq8cd
    @Patches-vq8cd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello, its me again. The guy thats been asking you to play churchill mk7 for somewhere in 3 years..
    Could you please? Even if its a suffering vid?

  • @the_babbleboom
    @the_babbleboom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i love playing CAS or get into a plane to take out CAS. sometimes even with an SPAA.
    but honestly i wish that was its own game mode. it ruins regular tank battles. they basically don't exist for me.

  • @tankfire20
    @tankfire20 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When i used to play the game, I would speedrun anti-cas, lightest fuel, no bombs. Cas players are so drug addicted to Cas-ing they wouldnt notice me approaching them.

  • @R2Panda385
    @R2Panda385 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should try a "battlefield is lava" challenge, basically you spawn in a helicopter with rockets and guns then switch to planes after getting some kills. You never get in a tank.

  • @corsairsofnarshaddaa
    @corsairsofnarshaddaa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To all my Reddit bros who respond to any criticism of CAS with "jUsT SpAwN iN AAA or a FiGHtEr", I present this video.

  • @habooya
    @habooya 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The random halo sound clips are amazing especially the elite ones 😂
    Edit: really want to see you play the 9.7 zbd04 from China

  • @spooky6839
    @spooky6839 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    spookston i gotta come clean im a cas player.... but when i do play cas i just play heavy bombers so i can atleast make it look cool for the other team with carpet bombs

    • @bickboose9364
      @bickboose9364 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm sure they applaud you after paying all the repair costs and having to look for a new match where, chance are, they'll get bombed once more.

    • @spooky6839
      @spooky6839 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bickboose9364 yup

  • @Shadowcify
    @Shadowcify 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t understand the point, getting 1 kill with a plane with the minimal loadout and leaving because of no spawn points is like buying a premium vehicle and using it as only vehicle.

  • @fisch44hd28
    @fisch44hd28 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i just opened YT bc i got bombed 15 times and got killed yb a tank 2 times and i see this XD
    anyway could you play the DF-105 one day?

  • @afoxinafoxhole7891
    @afoxinafoxhole7891 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Day 26 of asking Spookston to play the M19/M42 dusters, the accuracy is so bad it doesn’t matter if you can’t lead the shots