Stumpjumper EVO Coil Shock Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- Does a coil shock feel good on a Stumpjumper EVO? We aim to answer that question in this 3 parts video series. So here in Part 3, Mike compares the Fox Float X and RockShox Super Deluxe air shocks to the two most common coil shocks installed on the Stumpjumper EVO, and those are the RockShox Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate and Ohlins TTX22M.2.
👀 WATCH Part 1 - • Installing a Coil Shoc...
👀 WATCH Part 2 - • Riding a Coil Shock on...
SHOP - RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil Shock - tinyurl.com/vb8zaudy
SHOP - Stumpy EVO RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate Air Shock - tinyurl.com/2479rd58
SHOP - RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate Air Shock with HBO - tinyurl.com/3aawfeet
SHOP - RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate Air Shock -tinyurl.com/2rhfypbe
SHOP - Ohlins TTX22M.2 in 210x55 - tinyurl.com/9ut4f5tb
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0:00 - Intro
0:30 - Overview
1:54 - Which Shocks I Tested
5:28 - Coil Shock Trail Testing
12:15 - RockShox Coil Ultimate vs Ohlins TTX22M.2
14:00 - Does a coil shock feel good on the Stumpjumper EVO?
16:13 - Which shock is best for you?
20:44 - Which is my favorite shock?
21:24 - Test Disclaimers
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This is such a great video man. I don’t even own a stumpy evo.
So well spoken, and such organized points.
Man why do we have not some bike shop owner like him in germany
I'll file for my German citizenship this weekend 😂
-Mike
Don't do it, this country is going crazy since a few years ... @@TheLostCo
@@philipp3340 what's going on? Blacks and arabs everywhere?
The people have spoken: do the next video with the Cascade link!
Sick! Thank you so much for these videos! Excited for the cascade video!
Having had both the RS super deluxe air and the new super deluxe coil I can say that the coil is an amazing improvement for my style of riding. I have my Evo setup mullet as well.
HBO is an absolute must on mountain bikes and the external adjustment is a no brainer.
Thanks for the thorough video Mike 👍 The Rockshox Coil is such good value!
Cannot praise enough - also for Turbo Levo SL Comp (alu) - this was after the Fox DPX failed, I switched to the RockShox Ultimate Coil RC2T with HBO, and ....600lbs spring. For my 216lbs and 41ish lbs of the bike... it is feeling great! It's my first coils shock, so I might be .. shocked, how smooth it is. Really good and set up exactly for me and TLsl - (195x52.5mm).
Good series I bought my progressive coil from you guys for my stumpy evo thanks for all the helpful information.
Thanks Mike, great vids! Alltough I didn’t ride the rock shox coil i do ride the ohlins ttx and I’m really liking it, but like you mentioned, it’s probably personal preference.
This video is goated, just what every stumpy evo owner needs!
Very well said! I'm enjoying my RS coil ultimate as well on my Commencal Meta SX.
Recently put a 2023 super deluxe ultimate coil on my transition spire, and I agree with the attributes you used to describe the shock, more traction, adequate support, and the smooth integration of HBO, highly recommend it.
HBO used to have great integration, but then Warner Bros. Discovery ruined it.
I really want a rockshox. The HBO is a genius idea.
2 years ago, your suspension choice was Fox. Funny seeing r.s. on your rig. I was the same way. As soon I I tried the charger 3, I was converted. And I did get the r.s. coil from you. Best shock I ever had.
I'll bounce back and forth between Fox and RockShox (and other brands) quite often as I like to change things out to test them to provide customer feedback. It also depends on how I'm riding at the moment. I would mainly only ride steep stuff gnarlier stuff a few years ago and preferred the more traction-oriented feel of Fox, but these days I've been mainly riding "trail" stuff and enjoy the supportive feeling of the RockShox suspension for that.
-Mike
Thank you for your video. Help me decide to upgrade from Fox DPX2. Instead of going for Fox Float X, went for Rockshox SDU Coil
I have the Cascade link on my Stumpjumper with a Fox DHX2 Coil shock. The Cascade link is very nice. The change to a coil shock with the Cascade link was the best change I made to the Stumpjumper.
Great video like always, thank you.
I have run coils on several of my last few bikes and they were very much superior to the air shocks they came with based on how I like to ride. However they all had very progressive suspension curves that work well with the more linear nature of the coil. I ran the 2023 Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil with HBO on my 2022 Propain Tyee and agree, that is a sweet shock for the $$ and soo much better than the super deluxe ult air it came with. Saw zero reason to spend more on anything else. However my most recent bike, a 2023 Canyon Strive CFR came with a Fox X2 and it has a pretty progressive curve and I have to say, that once set up right, it has been feeling very good and my desire to swap to a coil has waned. Although I'd still love to test one out.
I'm really happy with my set up. I went with a cane creek DB kitsuma with progressive coil. Only problem is I've lost about 15 lbs and now need a softer spring. The cane creek lets you adjust hsc lsc hsr and lsr. It took a while to get it dialed and I still mess around with it, but it feels great.
You could start strength training, pack in some more protein and clean carbs get that weight back and some gains to boot. I learned this week creatine can hold like 5 pounds of water in your muscle 😆
Or carry 15lbs of water pack and snacks with you j/k
Recently just upgraded from the float x to super deluxe air ultimate. Was night and day difference. The fox felt just kinda dead and not very playful. Rockshox just feels more springy and fun imo
How does it feel for the pedaling? I like the floatx so far- just feels supportive for me at 225 lbs. I just haven’t had a great time with RockShox outside of my epic Evo.
@@kentao4 I don't mind it. Can always dial in some more low speed compression if you find it bobs too much on the pedal
Rockshox all day, all my buddies like fox and I don’t see the appeal constant maintenance and sag issues and long wait times for maintenance is lame
very informative!
Riding an S-Works Enduro and the RS SDLX ULT RC2T generates a hell of grip. I am flashed..., how simply RS kicked this already awesome runner into a whole new league of safe riding and confidence. Wouldn't have had compared Öhlins and RS using a different spring though. While the Öhlins air shocks are not my cup of tea (due to missing poppyness; the shock is just there, feeling a bit lazy like a hangovered morning), their coil shocks are actually quite ace, in particular the 22m.2 - I just didn't buy the Öhlins as I am doing all the services myself and Öhlins TTX22m.2 needs some nitrogen injection. The nitrogen I am exhaling here at home, well, is definitely nothing for a shock 😀But ya, totally second your impression of the RS SDLX ULT RC2T
Love the reviews I'm running the same shock on my old Nukeproof Mega 275 2020 and still dialing it! What setup did you end up fancy?
I am running the SDU air with aftermarket tune on my EVO and it's awesome. Was told I could add the RX tune later but I've seen no need for that or HBO for my riding.
Heck yeah! Even the standard aftermarket option rides great and will perform more than well enough for most riders on the trails!
-Mike
Very interested to see a comparison with the Fox X2
I bought a bomber cr for my evil offering. It was ok. Then I sent it to avalanche racing suspension for a total custom built for me and the bike and it is amazing with a ti coil. I will only go back to air shock when this is getting serviced
Interesting, I'm thinking of going coil on my 2016 Nomad
The linkage looks similar, if not the exact same as found on the Specialized Status 160/140. You reckon this info would apply to that bike as well. I got the Status 160, and im curious. I heard mixed stories of Status with a coil. Some break, and some seem to be fine.
Test out the new float x2 if it is actually improved and won't get trashed on the stumpy evo frame
Loved this series, thanks for putting it together.
As coil shocks have a linear curve, did you find that you needed to make adjustments to the fork setup to keep a balanced feel between fork and shock behavior?
I did not, but some folks might like to tweak things slightly out of curiosity. I don't have my fork set up super progressive in the first place, so it felt great to me.
-Mike
@@TheLostCo Thanks heaps for the reply :)
You guys should do this with a specialized status, I've really been wanting to put one on as my dpx2 is leaning towards the endof its days and I'm wondering how I would put a coil on
same
Do you know which brands of coils fit on a DVO Jade shock?
I’ve been running a sdlx air + a lyrik 170 on my stumpy for about a year now and am still running into bottom out issues- running ~22% sag front (2 tokens) and ~25% rear- I ride hard but I’ve gotten the front fairly figured out, but am getting harsh bottom outs on the shock 10+ times a ride. The trails I ride are very steep with flat drops, and yes it’s definitely not the right bike, but if y’all have any ideas I’d be interested to see. It’s a standard sdlx ultimate (no tune/hbo) max volume spacers, cascade link. Linear air can but I have the progressive on order.
My 6 month old Fox Float X Performance leaks, and Im thinking of a coil. Are they less maintenance?
I used a marzocchi bomber cr, although FOX forbidden, but the 12.7mm shaft is strong enough.
I ran one for two years no issue. The bigger shaft helps.
Do u know if I can put coil shock on 2017 stumpy..not evo...Thank You
Ever tried the Fox X2 on the stumpy?
@TheLostCo Great review 👍
I weigh 240lb & the dpx2 just isn't cutting it on the Kenevo.
Im still on the fence whether to upgrade the air or convert to coil 🤔
At your weight the cascade link would be nice. Just make sure your shock can handle the increased air pressure.
Kenevo is notorious for breaking coil shock shafts because of the heavy weight and long yoke, I'd go air.
I own a Stumpy EVO . You did a great job , really. Now I know that I need to stick to the Factory X air shock, due to the way I use the bike in. Excellent comparison.
Got the Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate on Black Friday sale for just over $400 and added a Sprindex adjustable spring
How do you like the feel of the Sprindex spring? I'm considering on buying one. Thanx
Is the Santa Cruz Megatower v2 considered more Progressive or more Linear? Is a Progressive or Linear spring better with the MT2?
Which coil shocks work best with the MT2, RockShox, Fox, Cane Creek, MRP, EXT, or Ohlins?
The Megatower is definitely progressive enough for a coil shock with a regular linear spring, but playing with a progressive spring could be always be a fun experiment!
As to which brand we recommend, RockShox has been making our favorite coil shock as of late, with the Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate. But each of those companies make great shocks with plenty of adjustments to get your shock perfectly dialed in for your Megatower V2!
-Tor
I have kenevo and bought super deluxe ultimate air for it and was happy with but pedal over rocky and tech trails it didn’t feel good going the rocks. But going down was the best. So I bought the s d u coil! And what a difference both going up and down! Especially for a fat guy like me! I always take both with me to change out on different places to see what feels good! Trial and error!
Heck yea man that Super Deluxe Coil is a pretty special piece of equipment! Glad you're taking the time to figure out exactly which piece of suspension is best for you, keep shredding!!
-Tor
I have a bike with 222x70 rear shock, i want to buy new rockshox but can't find same size , they offer 225x70. Does anybody know if it works?
My YT Decoy felt more playful with the coil vs the Air. It was very strange. On the air shock, any time I tried boosting off a root, the rear tire was just stick to the ground. But after I installed the RS Ultimate coil, the bike was finally popping up like you would expect it to. This goes against everything that is known about coil vs air, but it's the experience that I got when I switched.
Thanks for sharing! There are definitely tons of variables when it comes to how a rear shock changes how a bike feels, and how you have it set up makes a huge difference! It sounds like you might be running fast rebound or a stiff spring on the coil shock to get that kind of performance out of it. Either way, glad you're stoked on the coil shock!
-Tor 😎
What is the tune on the RS coil shock that you're using for the Stumpy Evo?
Watch the hole video...
EXT aria shock with cascade link makes my evo feel like magic
I bet! I'd love to feel out that setup!
-Mike
can you ellaborate on adding the low speed adjuster on the float x? Where can I get it outside of US?
We sell them on our website but they're always on backorder. Fox dealers can't sell things internationally, but if you know anyone in the USA that you can ship it to, they can send it to you.
thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly
-Mike
What setup would be better for bigger riders 😅 (270)
Hello, my name is Salvatore Lo Vecchi and I am writing to you from Italy. After seeing your video I decided to try to fit a RockShox Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate Coil Ultimate ( MODEL ID
RS-SDLC-ULT-B1) on my Stumpjumper EVO LTD S4, but I had a doubt. Can I mount this model? Thank you in advance.
Hey Salvatore Lo Vecchi! Yes that shock will fit perfectly on your Stumpjumper Evo. That's the same shock and frame that Mike is using in the video, you'll just need to get the m8x20 mounting hardware and you'll be all set!
-Tor 😎
Running super deluxe ultimate coil on my regular alloy stumpy. Love the ride feel, hate the installation.
Hey mate just wondering what Geo and Chainstay set up you were running for the test or what you normally run?
Howdy! I'm in the short chainstay and neutral head angle positions, and always run that setup. I know what geometry figures I like from riding over the years, and don't often change it. I would really only change the headtube to slack if I had a Whistler weekend planned.
-Mike
@@TheLostCo thanks mate. I’m running the same geo but with the cascade, WRP yoke and mullet. Lovin it but keen for a try at the coil option 👌🏼
Would love to see how a coil works with the mullet link im running from Specialized. Would love to see a video on it haha shoot send me that rockshox coil and ill make the video haha
Sorry if you answered this question in the vid and I just missed it but what headset and chain length setting were you using during your testing?
Weird you found you bottmed out with the ohlins. Myself and any of my friends who have ohlins all.think it feels amazing. In my opinion your spring at 380lbs is way too light. The cascade link is awesome, which I have on my bike..
Wish you would of road the new push.
When I hear people talking about "aggressive riding" I always picture someone riding down the hill with a really angry look on their face and kinda grunting in an aggressive way.
What am I to buy a new shock now or something? Why did I even watch this? Happens every time...
Rockshox SDU coil + cascade link + Sprindex. This is the way.
How do you like this set up, I have the Cascade link on my evo too but I feel like trying out a coil since I'm a bigger rider
@@selvinramirez8215 never rode it with the stock float x - can’t compare before and after. I have the float x on another bike and never loved it so I went with the SDU coil from the start.
This bike has a habit of breaking coil shocks due to its use of a yoke to drive the shock. If I remember correctly, Specialized states that this frame is not coil coil compatible.
Howdy! In all 3 videos, I have given a full rundown of the shocks that are approved for this frame. Each video includes segments of me talking about this, along with a chart of shocks that are approved by the manufacturer to work with this frame. Please take a peek at those parts in the videos if you are interested.
-Mike
@@TheLostCo Cheers bro. Thanks for putting me in my place.
Yeah I reached out to specialized and was told also that a coil shock cannot be run on the stumpjumer evo. But they also have a picture on their website where a coil is being used on one! My local specialized shop has also given both a yes and no to this question 😂. Did specialized provide you the list of which can be used?
And... McLovin hits again!!
I had my stumpy evo for 3 days built from the frame up. Just had it fly off my roof rack yesterday and was crushed by a dumptruck :(
Yo I saw your bike on Reddit 😅. I've never seen such a mangled mess of parts before lol. That poor Stumpy..
@@paulb5390 sad day man sad day :-/
@@paulb5390yo damn
Coil work on a gen 3 levo
What Rebound and Compression setting are you running as a 150lb rider?
Where can I find something like this in minute 3:30 for other bikes
Probably doesn’t exist. They reached out to all the companies themselves to confirm. Check out part 1 vid ;)
With that said, it’s usually not an issue or concern on most other bikes. The Stumpy EVO, and certain other Specialized bikes just put extra side loads on the shock due to frame/linkage design.
Heavy Moto Shock hahahah
*add grains of salt to taste
"promosm" 🤘
Öhlins are bigger on MTBs now than they are on motorcycles.
"I sell RockShox... RockShox is better" no surprises.
Howdy! We sell many brands of suspension, including all of the brands showcased in this video 👍
-Mike
Great video! I have the float X still on my stumpy evo pro model but I am really wanting to try a could and the RS is definitely the one I want for the way I ride. Thanks for all the info.