Text on the box: Instructions For opening and saving of the zinc boxes whit martial bulets hermetically packed. 1.Take the box whit left hand and whit the right take the ring that is on the tape whit whom the kid is soldered to the box. 2.Pull carfully on right without twisting the bar. 3.In case that the ring is broken, the bar is remove whit pilers and open. 4.After opening and taking out the bullets, the bar and the top of the box must be put in the box and then in the chest for keeping and sending back to the storage of the military unit. 5.Be carfull for the opening and for the keeping to not deform the box and lid. 6.The box, lid, the bar whit the ring must to be maintain healthy. 7.Its forbiden the boxes to be used for outher perposes. 8.The affixing of various objects in the box that would make it hurt or drilled. Storage of the box separate from the chests be avoided. The packages of bullets: Plant - 10 16 combat pistol cartridges 7.62 mm caliber plain or submachine pistols
Easy to open these if have ever had a tin can that came with a key for opening. Just roll it back rather than yank on it. Rolling the strip back gives more uniform force applied and you wont rip the tab off.
This is Bulgarian ammo, just like NotAGunGuy says. At 2:06 is a good shot of the box front. [I will show the Cyrillic letters first, then translate them into Latinate letters] The upper left field indicates the caliber, ammo type, and case type *7.62 ПГЛ* (7.62mm PGL, stands for _Pistolet Gil'za Latun'_ - [Russian > "Pistol [ammo], Brass Case"]). The lower left field reads *1600 БР.* (1600 _BR._ stands for _Broĭka_ [Bulgarian > "Pieces"]), meaning the crate holds 1600 "items" or cartridges. (Each tin holds fifty 16-round packets of ammo for a total of 800 rounds per can). The upper right field reads *31-10* , which means "Lot #31, packed at Factory 10" and the center right field reads *IV-53* , which means the lot was packed in April (the fourth month, indicated by the Roman numeral "IV"), in year 1953. The bottom right field reads *П30 No.8 14/53 10K* . *П30 No.8* ("P30 No.8") is the propellant type. P30 stands for Pistol 30 (the 7.62mm Tula-Tokarev TT-30/33 self-loading pistol) and No.8 is the formula of propellant used. The standard ComBloc packaging style shows the propellant batch as a fraction, with the propellant batch number over the 2-digit year of production ( *14/53* ), with the powder mill number or letter ( *10K* ) shown to the right. This indicates Batch #14 of year 1953, made at Factory 10K. At 6:20 is a shot of the ammo tins. The ink stamp on the tins inside is very faded, but should read *7.62 ПГЛ* ("7.62mm PGL") on the upper field and *31-10 П30 No.8 14/53 10K* ("Lot #31, Factory 10; P30 No.8 14/53 10K") on the lower field. The Headstamp at 12:53 is a star at 12 o'clock, the 2-digit year ( *53* ) at 6 o'clock, a Cyrillic letter *З* (or "Z", standing for _Zavod_ , or "Factory") at 9 o'clock and the factory code number ( *10* ) at 3 o'clock. So the 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock positions spell out *З 10* ("Z[avod] 10"), or "Factory 10". The star indicates that it is a brass case, rather than bimetallic (tombak-plated steel). Factory *10K* or Factory *((10))* is the modern-day ARSENAL factory in Kazanlak, Bulgaria. The complex contained both a cartridge factory and a powder mill. It was the third Factory 10 in the Communist Block, explaining why it has a double oval around its number. The K in 10K stands for Kazanlak.
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It's amazing you have 2 subscribers given you have produced zero content other than your comedic attempt to string together something resembling a coherent sentence. Thanks for the advice about buying a train, though. I'll look into it.
Ammo never “really” expires. I explained that to someone as I fired Korean War era 30.06 reloads that are 150 grain steel core and loaded hot as hell. Came loaded in the M1 garand clips, not magazines, and made my Remington 700 jump off the bench with the bipod. I bet this ammo performed as well as it was intended in 1946.
The Soviet soldiers used a piece of wood from the box, cut a slit in it longways and used it like a can opener to roll the retaining strap off like a sardine can opener.
Nice, my dad was probably not even foreseen in '53..... damn that just gives me a nice perspective of surplus ammo and guns. And some guy ( probably in the city of Kazanluk where the number 10 factory is ) was packaging this. Thanks for calling Bulgaria a soviet block country as opposed to part of the CCCP, a lot of people I meet think, Bg was part of "Mother Russia". And funny you should pick that name to blame.... my dad is called Vladimir, so a lot of nice references I found in this unboxing. and BTW, just think of the guy that packaged it.... see if he could wrap his mind in '53 around what just happened... A guy in the US just pulled out the nails he nailed in in 2015... coool
Isn't it incredible how overbuilt and tough some military surplus is? no wonder it was for sale decades after the wars it was meant for ended. Good for camping and general use. I've got a heavy duty canvas bag with reinforced corners and, click snaps, and strap. It was meant for a radio but I use it as a range bag.
Wow, pretty strict instructions. They even tell you with which hand to hold the can(left) and with which hand to pull the ring(right) and how to do so(by pulling right without twisting).Also, there seems to have been strict rules about returning the zinc cans (for recycling I presume). From 4 to 8 it's all about what to do after it's open. Thank you for the interesting video, it was very exciting to watch. P.S. Another thing I've noticed - there's a lot of metal dust accumulated throughout the years, please take safety precautions when dealing with such gear, inhaling 60 year old metal dust is sure to be dangerous!
It is strange to think that most of the people who produced that ammo back in 1953 are probably dead by now in 2021. 25yo would be 93 now. But it is still extremely enjoyable to watch the opening of such cans.
Back in the day when this ammo was dirt cheap, I bought a couple tins. Crates of the 7.62x54r stuff as well as the 5.45x39 7N stuff... I was always too lazy to open them so I just used the commercial stuff. I'm glad I did. Hard to find this stuff. Too bad it's corrosive. But I think I'll just keep these. Thanks I enjoyed video...
I still have unopened crates of 7.62x54 for my nagant and 7.62x39 for my sks. Those crates cost me about 60 bucks in the early 90s. The 91/30 was 45 and I got my sks for 70. Pric3es have skyrocketed since which probably means they are finally about out.
I'm imagining some dude digging up this old crate (or finding it in the corner of an old warehouse), then opening it and seeing all these nicely wrapped rounds. For some reason this thought gives me a calm pleasure.
Glad you took your time. I saw another guy open one and it had a hand written note in it. He crumbled it up and threw it away. He got a lot of negative comments for that. Who knows what it said, ya know. I'm a fan of the wooden boxes too lol
Thanks a lot man. I am glad some people out there can appreciate what I was trying to do. There are a lot of knuckleheads who can only complain that I "took too long". Like 15 minutes versus 1 minute is that big of a deal when the whole purpose is to try to document a piece of history.
This is a really cool time machine.... ! I wonder how much a round trip on that airline was back in the day ?! Honestly I would love to also hear the backstory on how this stuff became to be packaged and saved back in 1953? Whoever had the foresight to do this was extremely smart. I’m hoping there’s a really cool story behind it and not somebody just scavenging ammo lol either way it should make a cool story. Thank you very much for posting this i’m sure you had a blast. 🤘
Thank you! Yeah, I really wonder the story behind this crate from manufacture and packaging, to surplus storage, to finding its way across the Atlantic Ocean. It must have passed through a lot of different people's hands along the way. Amazing it didn't either get a) shot, b) lost, or c) destroyed over the last 6 decades. I couldn't help thinking about the voyage when I loaded these into magazines, slammed the mags home, and squeezed the trigger. I am glad you appreciate the purpose of the video. The whole thing was much more than seeing how fast I could tear things open to get what I knew was already inside. Sadly a lot of the critics of this video simply don't get it.
Re: headstamp - What looks like a 3 is the Cyrillic Z, standing for "Zabod" which means "factory or plant". The 10 is the number of the plant, and 53 is of course the date. So the star indicates gov't production at Plant #10 in 1953. The sheet inside the lid says, "Instruktsiya", directions for (probably) opening the cans. You will also find the word Zabod followed by 10.
It's kinda bizarre looking back, this ammo was so cheap at one point that the place I bought it from would throw in a case with a 50$ purchase. I used to smash them into splinters when loading PPSH mags for a range day. Now, I just wish I had the spent brass. I'm trying to baby my ol' PPSH, so I only run light reloads through it.
This is best ammo, as to ballistics and lethality. The powder and primers are corrosive and do decay, so expect a few non firing rounds and variations in velocity. I used to get crates such as this for $20-25 USD and over 90% were great rounds. I once got a pallet that had 3 crates showing that at one time they must of been fully immersed in water, all round were still great. This is one of most under appreciated rounds out there. Some were boxed but most had number of rounds in paper as his is. Not just 62 year dirt, rounds were lubricated by a powder of some sort. The pink box were for the full auto matic just a very slight increase in powder grains, but bullets were same Surprizingly all will penetrate, even out of short Takarov pistol barrels, level 3 soft body armor. Reason these surplus ammo rounds are available is Because Bulgaria is being reearded due to their aiding illegal weapons to Syrian, moderates¿¿¿¿¿¿, Iraq Military, Kurds, Afghan Military, masdive contracts for AK weaponry and Ammo. Vostly to our out of sight progrsm and is reason why pentagon is asking for comtract bids to build them here and for non auto capsble AR as well. Also for contrscts of US owned ammo manufacturrs. In some States an individual is not allowed to buy bulk ammo.
Opening a metal ammo crate is a difficult job,how soldiers can open in life threatening situations and what tools they need to use for opening in dangerous situations. Bullets were packed in low quality papers because non commercial storage but how dust entered in a sealed container ? It means a leakage was there which was left during sealing the cane. Can a 50 year old ammo work which is not properly sealed? By GR Jamali from Pakistan.
I was expecting a lacquer-like odor (kind of like the surplus 7.62x54r spam cans) but there really wasn't much of a scent. If I recall, there was a bit of an old dusty smell, if that makes any sense. [short answer: IT SMELLED LIKE FREEDOM]
I got some 1954 production Sellier & Bellot military surplus 7.62x25, and it also has the three-dot crimp on it (in fact, some of the cases got cracks right along those dots. Inside is packaged in 70-round boxes, which seem to be in much better condition than your packages. Stuff runs pretty good out of my Yugo Military M57 (not to be confused with the Zastava M57).
Oh very cool. I haven't heard of the S&B surplus. Where did you find it? I know the new production S&B 7.62x25 is *HOT*. My chrony tests were around 100-200 fps faster (out of a 10" barrel) than anything else if I remember correctly. I need to post the results in a video at some point ...
Hey thanks man. I was trying to be careful opening everything since it was so old, so it took longer than normal. I did live fire test them and they all fired perfectly and without a single misfire/dud. I have some video, but I've been a slacker and haven't edited it (yet). The only down side is all the brass cracked near the neck after firing, so they weren't reloadable.
NotAGunGuy thanks for your rapid response.About the brass is comprehensive, given the metal fatigue or rust, I don't know.Anyway, keep doing videos like this, that would be very interesting.
Holy shit bro...watching this aggravated the piss outta me. it's meant to be pulled straight out. Watching you wiggle the tab back and forth made me cringe knowing it would snap off. Good video though. Thumbs up
I hear you. It aggravated the piss out of me but I learned the hard way. I figured I could at least show people how not to do it. I'm not the type to pretend I don't screw up or edit out things that might not make me look perfect. At least I know now for how to tackle the next tin. Thanks for the thumbs up.
next time try crossing your arms a couple more ways. see if that helps. oh and if you just carefully wiggle the tab back and forth over and over it will cleanly break off- every time. this should work for you even if you are blind. no need to look at it and pull it in the obvious dirrection if its gone.
I'm guessing that "Instructsiya" means that the text below are the instructions. Somewhere there's an app you can put on a smart phone that will do live translation of foreign text using the phone's camera. It shows English translation of Russian text, for example. BTW, you _might_ have been able to leave that strap nailed onto the lid, and then used it as an ersatz hinge for the box.
Stalingrad, day 28: We have assembled for attacking but are still waiting for Ordnance platoon to issue ammo for PPSH. Comrade Kommisar ran toward German lines last night, yelling: “After me!”. He has not returned.
got my tin (now i know how to play with the tab to get it open) and ive never had a problem with the bulgarian surplus. fires great, flat shot only have to deal with the fact that it is steel core and corrosive.
Thank you! So the white/pink thing goes back to an Internet theory that 7.62x25 surplus Tokarev rounds in packages with pink labels were loaded dangerously hot and would make your pistol explode. I think that theory has been mostly debunked, but I didn't want to have to test it myself!
Hello Bulgaria! Not quite sure where you might get one. I ordered online from SG Ammo here in the U.S.A. I have to imagine that some crates are still hidden somewhere in your country though.
+Dte MoCo Absolutely! I am sure that these could be opened a *lot* faster if you don't care about keeping the original crate in decent condition. But hey, where's the fun in that?
If I'm not mistaken, there are two weak links in the CZ52. First is the firing pin, which is prone to breakage (never dry fire a CZ52!) due in part to substandard steel in the original. This has nothing to do with the type of round of course. I think the CZ52's biggest weakness is the fairly complicated rollers/cam system to compensate for the power of the 7.62x25 round. I haven't had any problems (yet) with my CZ52, but I have had a slide pin break on one of my TT's. Both are great pistols in my opinion.
NotAGunGuy I read and heard the same things. I have two that are near mint, un refurbished that are closet queens and one that is in almost the same condition, but I replaced the firing pins, springs and rollers so I could shoot it. You can feel the difference in the dirty corrosive surplus ammo from the red army stuff... I love these old commie surplus firearms...
Sure they'll all go bang. Corrosive priming lasts forever, especially in a sealed zinc box. Just soak your gun down with ammonia to neutralize the corrosive salts and clean as normal.
Solder? maybe try reheat with solder iron at the start. Couldn't imagine 'Sir, we need reloads ASAP the enemy is gonna route us" 2hrs later....'Got the 1st box open, now to load the mags'
why is the paper in such bad shape? I have newspapers may years older than this and they are in better shape. This was sealed you would think that it would be protected better than in the open
Actually that's a very good question. All I can think of is that the chemicals in the paper broke down over time. I read somewhere that chlorine used to be used in paper manufacturing, and that breaks down into hydrochloric acid if you wait long enough.
Thanks man I really appreciate that. I have been super lazy with posting some follow up videos, so I haven't been producing a lot of content. I have hours of shooting video I just haven't been able to edit yet, but hopefully over the next couple months I'll get those up. I did put this together though th-cam.com/video/ND_rIA5RTWQ/w-d-xo.html Thanks for the sub!
Good question. Since reading your post, I selected 3 cartridges that looked especially melancholy. For the first one, I calmly asked it about its childhood and whether or not it was angry with its father. It sat there and said nothing. For the second one, I subjected it to separation therapy and denied it contact with its family for one full week; I quickly lost contact with it and its current whereabouts are unknown. For the third one I asked it for one good reason why it should continue to exist; it gave me a disrespectful glare and the silent treatment, so I loaded into a CZ-52 magazine and pounded it into an 8" steel target from 25 yards away. Thank you for asking the important questions.
I did a bunch of chrony tests on this ammo vs. S&B, PPU, and Red Army Standard out of 4" and 10" barrels ... I just haven't gotten around to editing/producing the video yet (been busy). If I recall, this surplus was right around the same velocity as PPU.
Text on the box:
Instructions
For opening and saving of the zinc boxes whit martial bulets hermetically packed.
1.Take the box whit left hand and whit the right take the ring that is on the tape whit whom the kid is soldered to the box.
2.Pull carfully on right without twisting the bar.
3.In case that the ring is broken, the bar is remove whit pilers and open.
4.After opening and taking out the bullets, the bar and the top of the box must be put in the box and then in the chest for keeping and sending back to the storage of the military unit.
5.Be carfull for the opening and for the keeping to not deform the box and lid.
6.The box, lid, the bar whit the ring must to be maintain healthy.
7.Its forbiden the boxes to be used for outher perposes.
8.The affixing of various objects in the box that would make it hurt or drilled.
Storage of the box separate from the chests be avoided.
The packages of bullets:
Plant - 10
16 combat pistol cartridges
7.62 mm caliber
plain or submachine pistols
Wow thank you sir. I have pinned this comment!
Not only did I not follow the directions, I already broke rule #7.
2. Pull up carefully to the right without a twisting
3.in case you break the ring The tape is pulled out with pliers carefully
If you need to translate another text from Bulgarian just pm me :)
Easy to open these if have ever had a tin can that came with a key for opening. Just roll it back rather than yank on it. Rolling the strip back gives more uniform force applied and you wont rip the tab off.
They must have had plans of re-using the tin cans.
I never thought some one opening a box of ammo would be interesting. I was wrong, I enjoyed it. Thanks.
There's a certain nostalgia to having these old spam cans. It's like owning a piece of antique history.
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When I opened mine, I put it on the floor, one foot on it and pulled straight up. No issue
Trust me, I'll never be so gentle again with one of these cans.
Geoff Clark where did you get these btw
Geoff Clark that’s the real man kind of way of doing it.
This is Bulgarian ammo, just like NotAGunGuy says.
At 2:06 is a good shot of the box front.
[I will show the Cyrillic letters first, then translate them into Latinate letters]
The upper left field indicates the caliber, ammo type, and case type *7.62 ПГЛ* (7.62mm PGL, stands for _Pistolet Gil'za Latun'_ - [Russian > "Pistol [ammo], Brass Case"]).
The lower left field reads *1600 БР.* (1600 _BR._ stands for _Broĭka_ [Bulgarian > "Pieces"]), meaning the crate holds 1600 "items" or cartridges. (Each tin holds fifty 16-round packets of ammo for a total of 800 rounds per can).
The upper right field reads *31-10* , which means "Lot #31, packed at Factory 10" and the center right field reads *IV-53* , which means the lot was packed in April (the fourth month, indicated by the Roman numeral "IV"), in year 1953.
The bottom right field reads *П30 No.8 14/53 10K* . *П30 No.8* ("P30 No.8") is the propellant type. P30 stands for Pistol 30 (the 7.62mm Tula-Tokarev TT-30/33 self-loading pistol) and No.8 is the formula of propellant used. The standard ComBloc packaging style shows the propellant batch as a fraction, with the propellant batch number over the 2-digit year of production ( *14/53* ), with the powder mill number or letter ( *10K* ) shown to the right. This indicates Batch #14 of year 1953, made at Factory 10K.
At 6:20 is a shot of the ammo tins. The ink stamp on the tins inside is very faded, but should read *7.62 ПГЛ* ("7.62mm PGL") on the upper field and *31-10 П30 No.8 14/53 10K* ("Lot #31, Factory 10; P30 No.8 14/53 10K") on the lower field.
The Headstamp at 12:53 is a star at 12 o'clock, the 2-digit year ( *53* ) at 6 o'clock, a Cyrillic letter *З* (or "Z", standing for _Zavod_ , or "Factory") at 9 o'clock and the factory code number ( *10* ) at 3 o'clock. So the 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock positions spell out *З 10* ("Z[avod] 10"), or "Factory 10". The star indicates that it is a brass case, rather than bimetallic (tombak-plated steel).
Factory *10K* or Factory *((10))* is the modern-day ARSENAL factory in Kazanlak, Bulgaria. The complex contained both a cartridge factory and a powder mill. It was the third Factory 10 in the Communist Block, explaining why it has a double oval around its number. The K in 10K stands for Kazanlak.
Could you repeat that differently i couldn't understand
At the Frontline: "Igor im out of Ammo, where is the Screwdriver blyt" :D
it's amazing you have lived as long as you have without getting hit buy a train or something.
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why would he buy a train after getting hit?
It's amazing you have 2 subscribers given you have produced zero content other than your comedic attempt to string together something resembling a coherent sentence. Thanks for the advice about buying a train, though. I'll look into it.
Preston Berry You uhh... you arent a smart one are ya.
NotAGunGuy get’em bud
Ammo never “really” expires. I explained that to someone as I fired Korean War era 30.06 reloads that are 150 grain steel core and loaded hot as hell. Came loaded in the M1 garand clips, not magazines, and made my Remington 700 jump off the bench with the bipod.
I bet this ammo performed as well as it was intended in 1946.
3 o'clock in the morning and I just spent 15 minutes watching some clumsy dude open a box of old ammo. Sigh.
I need a life also.
Me too
The Soviet soldiers used a piece of wood from the box, cut a slit in it longways and used it like a can opener to roll the retaining strap off like a sardine can opener.
tripsadelica ,can see that working unless we roll wrong way lol
Yeah the dude here aint too bright
You attempted to open the first can backwards, thats why it didnt work.
Glad someone else noticed that
Unused shiny pliers , non working hands and my hands smell like ass remark explains a lot
I was looking for this comment--practically yelling the whole time fir him to simply try pulling the tab in the OPPOSITE direction!
Nice, my dad was probably not even foreseen in '53..... damn that just gives me a nice perspective of surplus ammo and guns.
And some guy ( probably in the city of Kazanluk where the number 10 factory is ) was packaging this. Thanks for calling Bulgaria a soviet block country as opposed to part of the CCCP, a lot of people I meet think, Bg was part of "Mother Russia".
And funny you should pick that name to blame.... my dad is called Vladimir, so a lot of nice references I found in this unboxing.
and BTW, just think of the guy that packaged it.... see if he could wrap his mind in '53 around what just happened... A guy in the US just pulled out the nails he nailed in in 2015... coool
Your motor skills make me want to cry!
A fukking men!
Put it on the floor and pull they aren't built to fall apart. Military spec ment the same back then as it does now. Basically indestructible.
Isn't it incredible how overbuilt and tough some military surplus is? no wonder it was for sale decades after the wars it was meant for ended. Good for camping and general use. I've got a heavy duty canvas bag with reinforced corners and, click snaps, and strap. It was meant for a radio but I use it as a range bag.
Wow, pretty strict instructions. They even tell you with which hand to hold the can(left) and with which hand to pull the ring(right) and how to do so(by pulling right without twisting).Also, there seems to have been strict rules about returning the zinc cans (for recycling I presume). From 4 to 8 it's all about what to do after it's open. Thank you for the interesting video, it was very exciting to watch.
P.S. Another thing I've noticed - there's a lot of metal dust accumulated throughout the years, please take safety precautions when dealing with such gear, inhaling 60 year old metal dust is sure to be dangerous!
It is strange to think that most of the people who produced that ammo back in 1953 are probably dead by now in 2021. 25yo would be 93 now. But it is still extremely enjoyable to watch the opening of such cans.
Back in the day when this ammo was dirt cheap, I bought a couple tins. Crates of the 7.62x54r stuff as well as the 5.45x39 7N stuff... I was always too lazy to open them so I just used the commercial stuff. I'm glad I did. Hard to find this stuff. Too bad it's corrosive. But I think I'll just keep these. Thanks I enjoyed video...
I still have unopened crates of 7.62x54 for my nagant and 7.62x39 for my sks. Those crates cost me about 60 bucks in the early 90s. The 91/30 was 45 and I got my sks for 70. Pric3es have skyrocketed since which probably means they are finally about out.
Looking forward to seeing you shooting this ammo and comparing it to the new production with the chronograph!
I'm imagining some dude digging up this old crate (or finding it in the corner of an old warehouse), then opening it and seeing all these nicely wrapped rounds. For some reason this thought gives me a calm pleasure.
Glad you took your time. I saw another guy open one and it had a hand written note in it. He crumbled it up and threw it away. He got a lot of negative comments for that. Who knows what it said, ya know. I'm a fan of the wooden boxes too lol
Thanks a lot man. I am glad some people out there can appreciate what I was trying to do. There are a lot of knuckleheads who can only complain that I "took too long". Like 15 minutes versus 1 minute is that big of a deal when the whole purpose is to try to document a piece of history.
This is a really cool time machine.... ! I wonder how much a round trip on that airline was back in the day ?!
Honestly I would love to also hear the backstory on how this stuff became to be packaged and saved back in 1953? Whoever had the foresight to do this was extremely smart. I’m hoping there’s a really cool story behind it and not somebody just scavenging ammo lol either way it should make a cool story.
Thank you very much for posting this i’m sure you had a blast. 🤘
Thank you! Yeah, I really wonder the story behind this crate from manufacture and packaging, to surplus storage, to finding its way across the Atlantic Ocean. It must have passed through a lot of different people's hands along the way. Amazing it didn't either get a) shot, b) lost, or c) destroyed over the last 6 decades. I couldn't help thinking about the voyage when I loaded these into magazines, slammed the mags home, and squeezed the trigger.
I am glad you appreciate the purpose of the video. The whole thing was much more than seeing how fast I could tear things open to get what I knew was already inside. Sadly a lot of the critics of this video simply don't get it.
That intro was amazing.
Haha thanks. Sometimes low-tech is a nice change in pace I guess.
I genuinely enjoyed it.
Thanks man.
Yep, abselutely amazing intro
Thanks bro. I wanted to do something low tech considering the content.
Re: headstamp - What looks like a 3 is the Cyrillic Z, standing for "Zabod" which means "factory or plant". The 10 is the number of the plant, and 53 is of course the date. So the star indicates gov't production at Plant #10 in 1953. The sheet inside the lid says, "Instruktsiya", directions for (probably) opening the cans. You will also find the word Zabod followed by 10.
Это означает завод учи русский
You're supposed to put them in the oven on 350 degrees for 1 hour to melt the solder off so you can pull the pin to open it
By the time Bulgarian soldiers would have opened these boxes their enemy would have reached the capital.
Why am I so mesmerized by a guy opening a box lol
Probably for the same weird reason that compelled me to make a video of it! haha ... The mystery of the unboxing video!
I live in michigan and the Packard was built here and I've explored the abandoned factory many times wish I could of seen it back then
They don't make them like they used to
in Soviet Russia screw driver opens youu
Screws you
Water drinks u
lol
NOT AGAIN
In America we use the same overused joke scheme
It's kinda bizarre looking back, this ammo was so cheap at one point that the place I bought it from would throw in a case with a 50$ purchase. I used to smash them into splinters when loading PPSH mags for a range day. Now, I just wish I had the spent brass. I'm trying to baby my ol' PPSH, so I only run light reloads through it.
This is best ammo, as to ballistics and lethality.
The powder and primers are corrosive and do decay, so expect a few non firing rounds and variations in velocity.
I used to get crates such as this for $20-25 USD and over 90% were great rounds.
I once got a pallet that had 3 crates showing that at one time they must of been fully immersed in water, all round were still great.
This is one of most under appreciated rounds out there.
Some were boxed but most had number of rounds in paper as his is.
Not just 62 year dirt, rounds were lubricated by a powder of some sort.
The pink box were for the full auto matic just a very slight increase in powder grains, but bullets were same
Surprizingly all will penetrate, even out of short Takarov pistol barrels, level 3 soft body armor.
Reason these surplus ammo rounds are available is Because Bulgaria is being reearded due to their aiding illegal weapons to Syrian, moderates¿¿¿¿¿¿, Iraq Military, Kurds, Afghan Military, masdive contracts for AK weaponry and Ammo.
Vostly to our out of sight progrsm and is reason why pentagon is asking for comtract bids to build them here and for non auto
capsble AR as well.
Also for contrscts of US owned ammo manufacturrs.
In some States an individual is not allowed to buy bulk ammo.
I started holding my breath at 5:50 trying not to inhale that dust lol
70yrs old.
23 cents per gallon. That's about the same price as today. If you use the same quarter that is.
You got it. Junk silver is anything but junk!
Constitutional Silver.
Opening a metal ammo crate is a difficult job,how soldiers can open in life threatening situations and what tools they need to use for opening in dangerous situations. Bullets were packed in low quality papers because non commercial storage but how dust entered in a sealed container ? It means a leakage was there which was left during sealing the cane. Can a 50 year old ammo work which is not properly sealed? By GR Jamali from Pakistan.
Translation on the ammo boxes please I have several of these small boxes of ammo thanks.
how did the 53yr old Tokarev ammo go….how many misfires…how did they battery?
whats the difference between this ammunition and the pink package ones? besides the obvious color difference
As a former Ordnance Officer I have to ask, what did it smell like?
I was expecting a lacquer-like odor (kind of like the surplus 7.62x54r spam cans) but there really wasn't much of a scent. If I recall, there was a bit of an old dusty smell, if that makes any sense. [short answer: IT SMELLED LIKE FREEDOM]
It smells metallic and acidic, like lead and vinegar
Where can I order 54r spam cans?
These cans just smell like a dusty shed lol, not the earthy smelling dust though.
I got some 1954 production Sellier & Bellot military surplus 7.62x25, and it also has the three-dot crimp on it (in fact, some of the cases got cracks right along those dots. Inside is packaged in 70-round boxes, which seem to be in much better condition than your packages. Stuff runs pretty good out of my Yugo Military M57 (not to be confused with the Zastava M57).
Oh very cool. I haven't heard of the S&B surplus. Where did you find it? I know the new production S&B 7.62x25 is *HOT*. My chrony tests were around 100-200 fps faster (out of a 10" barrel) than anything else if I remember correctly. I need to post the results in a video at some point ...
Wow.amazing! Would they still fire after all these time?
Hey thanks man. I was trying to be careful opening everything since it was so old, so it took longer than normal. I did live fire test them and they all fired perfectly and without a single misfire/dud. I have some video, but I've been a slacker and haven't edited it (yet).
The only down side is all the brass cracked near the neck after firing, so they weren't reloadable.
NotAGunGuy thanks for your rapid response.About the brass is comprehensive, given the metal fatigue or rust, I don't know.Anyway, keep doing videos like this, that would be very interesting.
I would assume it's not reloadable anyway. Don't they have berdan primers like most Soviet Bloc ammunition. I would assume so
Holy shit bro...watching this aggravated the piss outta me. it's meant to be pulled straight out. Watching you wiggle the tab back and forth made me cringe knowing it would snap off. Good video though. Thumbs up
I hear you. It aggravated the piss out of me but I learned the hard way. I figured I could at least show people how not to do it. I'm not the type to pretend I don't screw up or edit out things that might not make me look perfect.
At least I know now for how to tackle the next tin. Thanks for the thumbs up.
I think the biggest issue on the first box is you tried to pull it the wrong direction.
Monte PR totally agree lol..
next time try crossing your arms a couple more ways. see if that helps.
oh and if you just carefully wiggle the tab back and forth over and over it will cleanly break off- every time. this should work for you even if you are blind. no need to look at it and pull it in the obvious dirrection if its gone.
Abso-f****n-lutely
I sure would love to see what it shoots like.
I don't have a full video on it yet, but I do shoot some of it out of a PPS43C in this video th-cam.com/video/ND_rIA5RTWQ/w-d-xo.html
You can never be accused of overthinking possible solutions to a mechanical engineering problem. Work smart, not hard.
Definite Steve 1989 vibes with this video....nice!
You must be American spy if you don't know how Soviet ammo can opens
I can neither confirm nor deny that.
Haha that's good
I'm guessing that "Instructsiya" means that the text below are the instructions. Somewhere there's an app you can put on a smart phone that will do live translation of foreign text using the phone's camera. It shows English translation of Russian text, for example.
BTW, you _might_ have been able to leave that strap nailed onto the lid, and then used it as an ersatz hinge for the box.
Stalingrad, day 28: We have assembled for attacking but are still waiting for Ordnance platoon to issue ammo for PPSH. Comrade Kommisar ran toward German lines last night, yelling: “After me!”. He has not returned.
Haha! Love it!!!
boy I would not have to open that in a hurry with the Gong coming over the hill
Karl Karlson oath
got my tin (now i know how to play with the tab to get it open) and ive never had a problem with the bulgarian surplus. fires great, flat shot only have to deal with the fact that it is steel core and corrosive.
Great video thanks for your information and what are you talking about White and pink?
Thank you! So the white/pink thing goes back to an Internet theory that 7.62x25 surplus Tokarev rounds in packages with pink labels were loaded dangerously hot and would make your pistol explode. I think that theory has been mostly debunked, but I didn't want to have to test it myself!
and at the time u get that ammunitionbox opened, the war has stopped.
Yeah I don't know what I was thinking trying to take my time opening up a piece of history.
Im Bulgarian where I get one of those boxes ?
Hello Bulgaria! Not quite sure where you might get one. I ordered online from SG Ammo here in the U.S.A. I have to imagine that some crates are still hidden somewhere in your country though.
Yea, they are always fun to open. Hope to see the results on the forums.
ToBeFree
+Dte MoCo Absolutely! I am sure that these could be opened a *lot* faster if you don't care about keeping the original crate in decent condition. But hey, where's the fun in that?
Straight up then turn …. Good lord… who would have thought this would be this hard
I had the same, "HELL OF A TIME," getting my can open. I would hate to have the enemy breathing down on you while trying to get this damn can open.
When the soldiers opened the ammunition box and your magazines filled have, the war was already at the end !!! ;-)
How's to buy that ammo crate??
On instruction was writen: While you hold with left hand open with right hand pulling to the right side.
... imagine a war time scenario... c’mon dude theyre getting closer... i need that bleepin ammo now... I’m workin on it... f/!@...
I believe the Polish surplus was made for the PPs43, SMG and is very hot round... Too hot for a pistol, except the CZ52...
+Joey P Tok TT pistol were MUCH stronger than CZ52's, the CZ52 strength vs a Tok is a myth.
+Free America You've peaked my interest. State your sources of information please.
If I'm not mistaken, there are two weak links in the CZ52. First is the firing pin, which is prone to breakage (never dry fire a CZ52!) due in part to substandard steel in the original. This has nothing to do with the type of round of course.
I think the CZ52's biggest weakness is the fairly complicated rollers/cam system to compensate for the power of the 7.62x25 round. I haven't had any problems (yet) with my CZ52, but I have had a slide pin break on one of my TT's. Both are great pistols in my opinion.
NotAGunGuy I read and heard the same things. I have two that are near mint, un refurbished that are closet queens and one that is in almost the same condition, but I replaced the firing pins, springs and rollers so I could shoot it. You can feel the difference in the dirty corrosive surplus ammo from the red army stuff... I love these old commie surplus firearms...
Поражаюсь над открывание цинка🤣🤣🤣
This stuff will blast through several bulletproof vests no problem
"Plant - 10" or just 10 as it is on the cartridge, is the old name of the "Arsenal" plant, Kazanlak, Bulgaria.
thanks. We in Bulgaria make good ammunition.
how much did you pay for the crate
Its zinc box ?😍
Not sure - but I know I didn't want to lick it.
Sure they'll all go bang. Corrosive priming lasts forever, especially in a sealed zinc box. Just soak your gun down with ammonia to neutralize the corrosive salts and clean as normal.
Where can you find these?
Where did you get this from?
fun video thanks.
I like that information at first part of the video good job 👍
Is this gear usable?
Solder? maybe try reheat with solder iron at the start.
Couldn't imagine 'Sir, we need reloads ASAP the enemy is gonna route us"
2hrs later....'Got the 1st box open, now to load the mags'
Can anyone translate what the paper says? Thank you
was the ammo good? any duds?
The most important point of this ammo that it will kill even today
Nice to see how quickly those things can be opened in a firefight!
Cool soviet era box full of fun
есть же топор. к чему эти нежности?
The easiest way to open these is with a propane touch. Heat the old solder and peel off the metal stripe.
Imagine putting these boxes into fire, and waiting for surprise
Might have gotten it opened faster that way! But an expensive experiment either way...
Alexander Zając yeah you can try that!!!😍😉😉😉🤗
why is the paper in such bad shape? I have newspapers may years older than this and they are in better shape.
This was sealed you would think that it would be protected better than in the open
Actually that's a very good question. All I can think of is that the chemicals in the paper broke down over time. I read somewhere that chlorine used to be used in paper manufacturing, and that breaks down into hydrochloric acid if you wait long enough.
First time using pliers I see! Cool video.
How the hell do you have only 500 subs ?!?
Great video mate. Really enjoyed it.
Thanks man I really appreciate that. I have been super lazy with posting some follow up videos, so I haven't been producing a lot of content. I have hours of shooting video I just haven't been able to edit yet, but hopefully over the next couple months I'll get those up. I did put this together though th-cam.com/video/ND_rIA5RTWQ/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the sub!
Did you not see him struggle with every single aspect of this.. thats why
how do you think the ammos must be feeling??? Anyone thought about that??
Good question. Since reading your post, I selected 3 cartridges that looked especially melancholy. For the first one, I calmly asked it about its childhood and whether or not it was angry with its father. It sat there and said nothing. For the second one, I subjected it to separation therapy and denied it contact with its family for one full week; I quickly lost contact with it and its current whereabouts are unknown. For the third one I asked it for one good reason why it should continue to exist; it gave me a disrespectful glare and the silent treatment, so I loaded into a CZ-52 magazine and pounded it into an 8" steel target from 25 yards away.
Thank you for asking the important questions.
NotAGunGuy hahahahaha!! That was an excellent answer!!! God bless you man!!
Was it reliable?
Hmm, they had instructions on how to open the ammo cans? That's what the word is at the top of that paper. (Инструкция)
The note on the lid is written in Bulgarian.
Hey are you from Canada by chance?
No sir. Why?
NotAGunGuy you said (A) real hard that's why
Sorry man you completely lost me. Not sure a PPS43c is legal in Canada although I could be wrong.
at least you opened the second box in the correct direction.
Those look crazy man
They actually fired great. More than half ended up with cracked cases afterwards, so no reloading even if I wanted to.
I wud like 2 know what the fps is of this ammo
I did a bunch of chrony tests on this ammo vs. S&B, PPU, and Red Army Standard out of 4" and 10" barrels ... I just haven't gotten around to editing/producing the video yet (been busy). If I recall, this surplus was right around the same velocity as PPU.
Oh my god.... Everybody.. this man got his hands dirty.. HE GOT HIS HANDS DIRTY
I enjoyed this video much more than it is rational to do so. :-)
Yeah I was thinking the same thing as I was filming it.
Ammo part shown at 11:50 because this guy wastes half the video about the stupid box. Your welcome
How funny would it be if Vlad farted just before sealing up the can...
What I found funny is that $0.24 for gas in 1953 is $2.23 in today's money, which is basically the same.
nice opening tie-in
”It’s get better the longer you get in” hahahahha
:)