This is really cool to watch. Seeing how London has changed so much over the past 30 years! Also nice to see the evolution of traction and rolling stock out around Waterloo...
I find your story fascinating... Thanks for commenting. How do you feel about the massive change that has occurred during these years...? Is there any particular era that you prefer?
1994 feels 30 years old but when we heard it first time because it not usual to hear that it was 30 years ago that's why we in start feel like times fly but no we aren't familiar with adjustment actually.
What a difference to how things are now. Masses of buildings and vegetation of 2024 compared to an almost clear canvas 30 years ago. I love London but I cannot help but think how the newer trains have gone backwards for passenger comforts when older 1963 stock as well as the 319/455/442 etc were better for comfort. Also nice to see how things are different since Eurostar moved from Waterloo to St Pancras in 2007.
This is an interesting video. I actually did a similar-ish video to this recently comparing how the trackside scenery between London Waterloo and Queenstown Road Battersea has changed between 2010 and 2024. It's changed beyond recognition. Looking back how it was as recently as 2010, things looked very much unchanged from the 1980's or even the 1970's! Now though in 2024, apart from a small number of remaining buildings, it all looks very 21st century and almost Blade Runner like!
I have an old HI8 camcorder and on one of the tapes is just a car journey POV that I did when I was a kid from the early 90s. The difference in landscape on the same car journey between the 90s and now is mad!
When I used to get the train every day I’d wonder how old the iron was we were rolling on. Would be interesting to see what the average age of a length of rail is throughout the whole country, but I’d guess it must be at least 50 years.
Worth noting that practically all of that new skyline has gone up over the past 10 years. Vauxhall and Battersea in particular being developed whilst I was commuting from 2015. It went up really fast.
OMG, this is brilliant!! I arrived in London in 1994, and sometimes I have trouble remembering how the skyline was then. It changed so much in such little time!
This is happening in my country (🇳🇬), specifically in Lagos. I have a friend who had a beachfront property, only for the city government to remove the beach and replace it with an ongoing skyscraper land reclamation project. Sad times
The shocking thing is London has a worse than ever housing crisis, but so few of the new builds we see in the video are any kind of a solution. On the contrary, they exacerbate the problem, providing only a glut of a premium properties that further overheat an already bloated real estate landscape.
And just to rub salt in the wound, all of the new builds look like crap. Modernist styles of the tower blocks in the 90s footage weren't much to write home about, but they're clearly easier on the eye and weren't all crowded together in one spot. Now Vauxhall and Waterloo clogged with garish post-modern skyscrapers that block out light and force all the wind into tight spaces, leaving is with dark streets that the wind howls through even on mild days. As someone who grew up in SE London, I would genuinely rather have the dirty, rough council estates than these monstrosities. At least walking through my local estates I could see the sun and people going about their lives. Oh, and these skyscrapers will all be falling apart in the next decade (if not now!). Thanks to a completely deregulated construction industry and corrupt local councils, developers can just throw up any old garbage without oversight. No one's checking to see if there's dangerous materials being used, shoddy work being done or major flaws with the design. And it leads to tragedies like Grenfell.
So, you don't need to live in London. Home office is no solution to everything, but you can also live outside of London on that side where your job is located in London and commute, or choose a job not within London.
@@Delibro No, more housing just needs to be built in London to satiate the massive demand. If you do what you said you will kill the economy and any chance of growth in the future.
@@component9008 Or to actually regulate the market. Whiles britain went on a council housing spree after ww2 which basically nearly homed everyone, they also regulated prices so they were actually affordable to most. Another fact is that we just can't keep building houses, its unsustainable and we've already lost lot of green spaces ontop of farms that are vital for food security, even if they aren't being properly managed and supported.
Brilliant video. The view coming into Waterloo is changed beyond belief. My dad used to work at GLC offices on the left just past Vauxhall 3:21 and every time I went past on the way into town (from Dorking) I used to hope I'd see him at a window. But the approach is just so different. Trackside is less well kept that's for sure. A lot more overgrown now.
I love the fact that some of those simple structures i.e holding up the lights etc are still present and working just as well as they did 30 years ago...
The skyline and shrubbery seems to have grown up. Sadly no longer class 442's plastic pigs. Best comfy seats ever. Now just the uncomfortable seats on the desiro's.
Pigs weren't bad but the best seats are on the unrefurbished 158/159s. I tried to tell my company at the time, SWR, just to change the moquette but they had to put firmer seating in 🙄 At least the 1st are still the same unlike the Disastro 1st 🥴
@@HAHE-mn4tu First Class in the 444s wasn't bad at all until SWR ripped out the reclining 2+1 cloth seating and put in fixed, bolt upright 2+2 leather. More comfortable to sit in Standard.
@@kristinajendesen7111yeah really unfortunate and the now the only reason to get first class is so if the train is really busy you get a seat instead of extra comfort
Another rare example of the YT Algorillas getting it right for once as a suggestion and thank you to you for this/these videos. I am still smiling as a result even though I didn't see my favourite like it or lump it lump of a building ~ the riverside Nine Elms Cold Store in all its unapologetic lump of concrete-ness. Ditto you decided to turn your attention away from the still extant sidings for the long gone Necropolis Railway 4:30. And if only we had a Smellovision option as we came past the Coffee Company building up from Vauxhall station! It used to be a powerful awakening of the imminent arrival in Waterloo but smells no more. All those towers of rabbit hutches and all those people who thought moving in there and having a balcony would be good! The alternative of the unopenable windows on neighbouring towers is no better though. Each to their own. Thank you once again.
@@robtyman4281 Never noticed that but Clapham used to smell of dog food (I started in 1987), Hook smelt of chocolate 😋 before the factory was knocked down & became Tesco, Brsnksome smelt of chips from the chippy above 😋 and Poole smelt like dog or cat food - Millers Pies 😄 Oh and the stop blocks at Waterloo smelt like 💩 sometimes but I don't know if that was something to do with the slammers?
Interesting to see what has changed - been & gone & what is new - Network South-East in 1994 but gone in 2024 - During the video - for a few seconds each video seemed to be a few seconds faster than the other but both caught up at the end!!! Thanks for showing!!! 🙂🚂🚂🚂
Love riding into a new city the last 10 minutes before the main station is the same globally. Labyrinth of tracks. Weeds and vegetation everywhere and mess. Nice slow ride walled in by the new and old structures. 😊
@JustMeUpNorth ahh yes, the dreaded "leaves on the tracks"... Most of the extra vegetation is probably there because they're lazier about maintenance now!
You should have tried harder to drive the train so that you matched the two items of footage so that the buildings and tracks that existed in both timelines appeared at the same time - i think this should have been easy to do if you stayed at the same speed in both timelines because otherwise it looks sloppy don’t make that same mistake when you do the 2054 version although maybe you’ll have got bored of waiting by then… lol Im JOKING !!!!!!! I’m kidding - honestly - I LOVE this video and thought it was FASCINATING AND was gobsmacked at how much of the 1994 London I knew and was familiar with but have forgotten over time . Thanks for bringing me home to the happier more optimistic times of when top of the pops went out live on a Thursday then Friday and EVERYONE watched it at the same time and so knew exactly where their top ten fave musicians were in the world at that precise moment - it was comforting - nice - it felt less disorientating as I feel now - I never did it but I used to think - ALL I have to do is get in the car and get to the studio and they’ll be RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF ME ! And I’ll get arrested (!) I miss britpop Cool Britannia and a labour landslide GOVERNMENT that won because they had quite good ideas and not because their ideas were awful just not as awful as the conservatives even more awful ideas. However it is better today in other areas - I don’t miss the racism the deaths from ecstasy or hiv and I don’t miss take that even though they’re still around because they don’t know when to let the cash cow die with dignity -l they’re sucking on those udders until they get every damn last drop o milk coin (!) Hope my joke didn’t trigger you - I love this video so much I couldn’t resist - If I say “good effort” or nothing at all THATS when I think it’s a not good video lol bravo 🎉🎉🎉❤
I think it is quite ironic the fact that on the one hand, there seems to be an explosion in things like tap rooms and craft beer venues in areas adjacent to these locations shown. Yet at the same time, there are people begging on the street, and people having to go to a food bank or unable to afford to live in London anymore, including in these hideous high-rise apartments. In the sixties and into the seventies, and up until the mid-seventies, this scene would have comprised of vast vistas of spaces made up of working-class areas. It would have consisted of bomb-damaged sites, wasteland/ factories/ terraced housing/ and newer laid-out council housing and flats. Although I come from the outer suburbs of London, I think I would hate to live in Greater London now. The scenery depicted in this skyline represents areas which encountered bomb damage. then slum clearance particularly from the late Nineteen Fifties through to the early nineteen seventies, and the shift of people out to the suburbs and beyond. It would have looked quite grimy and polluted. Think of the film '' Up the junction, '' made in the mid nineteen sixties. This would be a good depiction of this area at the time. There would have been a clear aim by The Greater London Council, to make these areas less crowded and more green, with more green space and lower population density. Looking at the 2024 skyline, it would seem that the unfettered hand of neo-liberalism/ free market forces, fuelled by global capitalism have been allowed to do the reverse. But it is not working-class people, if there is still such a term, moving into these areas. Who in their right mind would be prepared to live in a shoe box for a million pounds, with no garden and hardly any space, and who would have the money to? Or more to the point who can afford to own these properties, and who are they being rented out to? It is certainly not the original or former inhabitants of these areas, because they would not be able to afford to live here anymore. Neither would people on modest to average incomes, whatever this is, in order to be able to live comfortably in London, and thrive, rather than just survive.
I worked trains into Waterloo for 31 years from Bournemouth and Salisbury. I could have been on one of those Pigs as the guard. Went driving at Sals in 1999. Wish I had shares in the crane hire companies for those construction sites when they were going up ££££££££££
No Eurostar trains yet until November 14th 1994 but the brand new Waterloo Int'l terminal is already in place and looking magnificent. A sad sight today.
You guessed wrong. We accidentally left off the web address at the end. While at it Peter added a further description but the edit was exactly the same.
Also interesting to see that some of this is unused/alternative footage from Wessex, as that ends with a coupling up to a second 442 on a different platform (having recently re-watched the ending is fresh in my mind)
The common global perception of London is of beautiful old buildings occupied by older men doing Things. Many people don't realize just how much the city is still growing. I know most Americans would be SHOCKED by this kind of thing.
It may be the film difference but the sky looks hazy in the old video. Back in the 90s diesels were really polluting, think of all the buses and taxis in London, this was before DPFs were fitted.
It may also be the fact that the 1994 film would not have been shot in HD, so that might the reason it doesn't look as sharp; and is abit 'grainy' and ever so slightly blurry at the edges. Bearing in mind, smartphones and DSLR cameras didn't exist 30 years ago. So the 1994 film would have been shot using an old-style large video camera (probably mounted on a tripod in the cab). And would have had analogue video cassettes containing film reel. Whereas the present day film will have been shot on a (digital HD) smartphone mounted on a gimbal. HD was not available either, back then. It only started appearing in the late 90's - and even then, it didn't become the 'norm' for another decade. Interestingly to coincide with the advent of social media, and arrival of smartphones.
I think you can infer something about the air quality by the way the haze affects the appearance of buildings with increasing distance. I think it is more pronounced in the 1994 footage.
@@thromboid I think it has more to do with the actual film quality. Don't forget - the 1994 film will be analogue....using actual physical film reel; whereas the 2024 film will be digital HD shot on a smartphone. The difference in overall film quality between the two, will be significant and instantly noticeable because of this fact. Another thing, the time of year also plays a part. If the 1994 film was shot in the summer months, then there'll be some 'haze' because warmer air has this effect on making buildings in the distance seem more blurry.
The air is in my opinion far cleaner in London now than it was 30 years ago. Congestion charge, ULEZ, electric buses and cabs, encouragement of cycling have all helped... in 1994 we were still merrily breathing in leaded petrol fumes.
Many "newer" parts of London already looked really ugly in the 70s when I first visited. Postmodernism and the architectural crimes that come with it have surely left their mark on the place.
London in 1994 was 6.8 million, 8.8 million in 2022 (+30%). Building height is dramatic, until 1980s London grew out not up. Railway is fascinating too as noted would be better synced, trains are travelling at different speeds so awkward. Ideally have the right 1 sec behind to allow comparison. Run the speeds at same time intervals between markers like posts structures points.
Realising 1994 was 3 decades ago really makes me feel old! Lots more vegetation now, as well as skyscrapers..
That one thing that really surprise me.
I'm too stunned that 1994 was 30 years ago that I can't concentrate on the view😂
Surprising that the old Eurostar terminal is still intact
@@markantscottI think they are going to use it for something else
Skyscrapers grow faster than vegetation
One thing that really stands out to me is how much greener it has become.
The skyline has also grown significantly. Just look at the comparison 2 minutes in
That's why we need to get rid of co2, it makes the plants grow too quickly.
@@thatoneguy611 That's the topic of the video... good that you point that out as reply to this comment in case someone don't know.
Yeah now has trees growing on the line surrounded by concrete. My days London is soooo Green lmao
@@clubkinetic1 No one besides you compared London with a forest. We compare London now with 30 years ago.
This is really cool to watch. Seeing how London has changed so much over the past 30 years! Also nice to see the evolution of traction and rolling stock out around Waterloo...
Sad to see the backward evolution. Comfortable trains to ironing board seats on the Disastros 🙄
You like trains don't ya ☺️
Memory is like a distortion, when you remember 1994 as being the present day, yet it's now 30 years ago, and 2024 in 1994 was not even imaginable.
I commuted that line daily from 1976 and 2016. I saw lots of changes over those 40 years and this video was fascinating to see.
I find your story fascinating... Thanks for commenting.
How do you feel about the massive change that has occurred during these years...?
Is there any particular era that you prefer?
I'm still trying to adjust to "30 years ago" being 1994 and not 1974. 😅
1994 feels 30 years old but when we heard it first time because it not usual to hear that it was 30 years ago that's why we in start feel like times fly but no we aren't familiar with adjustment actually.
30 years later (as well as a refurb and re-traction), the 455s are still running
And class 159
Unfortunately the 442 is not with us anymore
Hell yes.
What a difference to how things are now. Masses of buildings and vegetation of 2024 compared to an almost clear canvas 30 years ago. I love London but I cannot help but think how the newer trains have gone backwards for passenger comforts when older 1963 stock as well as the 319/455/442 etc were better for comfort. Also nice to see how things are different since Eurostar moved from Waterloo to St Pancras in 2007.
I’m not from London but I go there quite often with my job.
Wow in 1994 I was in fourth year high school. I’m 45 now. Crazy it was 30 years ago.
That's just madness, even when I visited in 2011 I don't recall this part of London being _that_ built-up. Looks like bloody Tokyo now!
It’s changed massive in 10 years!
Only in certain areas that were previously industrial. Lots if London has remained the same.
Except Tokyo's rail system looks like it's from 2024 while London's still looks like it's from 1964
This is an interesting video. I actually did a similar-ish video to this recently comparing how the trackside scenery between London Waterloo and Queenstown Road Battersea has changed between 2010 and 2024. It's changed beyond recognition. Looking back how it was as recently as 2010, things looked very much unchanged from the 1980's or even the 1970's! Now though in 2024, apart from a small number of remaining buildings, it all looks very 21st century and almost Blade Runner like!
That's the post 2008 money printing machines going prrrrrrrrrrrt for you. Underwritten by your grandgrandgrandgrandchildren.
People shooting POV videos from a train in 1994 is amazing
We used to pay good money for the VHS cassettes, too! 😅
@JustMeUpNorth 😂
more amazing is that the video quality of that POV looks like 2011
I have an old HI8 camcorder and on one of the tapes is just a car journey POV that I did when I was a kid from the early 90s. The difference in landscape on the same car journey between the 90s and now is mad!
The 2024 version looks more like Tokyo than London in some places.
Seriously it's terrible
@@Aureus_ You're a failed pregnancy
Why terrible? @@Aureus_
@@Aureus_ C0pe
Only Tokyo is safe.
the fact the tracks have barely changed in 30 years amazes me for some reason
Right? It's like the railway is frozen in time while everything else is passing by
Well, I'm sure they will have been replaced/relaid at least once since 1994 -but yes the track alignment is the same.
Why would the tracks have to change? It's not an iPhone where you need an annual dopamine release to stay engaged and keep buying.
They have changed the 3rd rail around on the London bound to the left side tbf
When I used to get the train every day I’d wonder how old the iron was we were rolling on. Would be interesting to see what the average age of a length of rail is throughout the whole country, but I’d guess it must be at least 50 years.
Worth noting that practically all of that new skyline has gone up over the past 10 years. Vauxhall and Battersea in particular being developed whilst I was commuting from 2015. It went up really fast.
I did this commute round about 1991 from Balham and so much has changed, even in Balham. The house I rented a flat in is now worth around £2m 😂
OMG, this is brilliant!! I arrived in London in 1994, and sometimes I have trouble remembering how the skyline was then. It changed so much in such little time!
The London I see today is so different to the London I lived in 30 years ago. It's unreal.
there is no more London now. London became Londonistan.
Imagine living in that tower block having a fantastic view only for years later have blocks built in front of you.
This is happening in my country (🇳🇬), specifically in Lagos. I have a friend who had a beachfront property, only for the city government to remove the beach and replace it with an ongoing skyscraper land reclamation project. Sad times
Well, that's what happens.
That's just what happens. In order to meet demand more must be built.
The shocking thing is London has a worse than ever housing crisis, but so few of the new builds we see in the video are any kind of a solution. On the contrary, they exacerbate the problem, providing only a glut of a premium properties that further overheat an already bloated real estate landscape.
And just to rub salt in the wound, all of the new builds look like crap. Modernist styles of the tower blocks in the 90s footage weren't much to write home about, but they're clearly easier on the eye and weren't all crowded together in one spot. Now Vauxhall and Waterloo clogged with garish post-modern skyscrapers that block out light and force all the wind into tight spaces, leaving is with dark streets that the wind howls through even on mild days. As someone who grew up in SE London, I would genuinely rather have the dirty, rough council estates than these monstrosities. At least walking through my local estates I could see the sun and people going about their lives.
Oh, and these skyscrapers will all be falling apart in the next decade (if not now!). Thanks to a completely deregulated construction industry and corrupt local councils, developers can just throw up any old garbage without oversight. No one's checking to see if there's dangerous materials being used, shoddy work being done or major flaws with the design. And it leads to tragedies like Grenfell.
So, you don't need to live in London. Home office is no solution to everything, but you can also live outside of London on that side where your job is located in London and commute, or choose a job not within London.
They definitely don't. The only way to decrease housing prices is to build new housing. Without them prices would be even higher.
@@Delibro No, more housing just needs to be built in London to satiate the massive demand. If you do what you said you will kill the economy and any chance of growth in the future.
@@component9008 Or to actually regulate the market. Whiles britain went on a council housing spree after ww2 which basically nearly homed everyone, they also regulated prices so they were actually affordable to most. Another fact is that we just can't keep building houses, its unsustainable and we've already lost lot of green spaces ontop of farms that are vital for food security, even if they aren't being properly managed and supported.
Brilliant video. The view coming into Waterloo is changed beyond belief. My dad used to work at GLC offices on the left just past Vauxhall 3:21 and every time I went past on the way into town (from Dorking) I used to hope I'd see him at a window. But the approach is just so different. Trackside is less well kept that's for sure. A lot more overgrown now.
Really excellent video, offers a fascinating insight from a unique perspective!
I love the fact that some of those simple structures i.e holding up the lights etc are still present and working just as well as they did 30 years ago...
The skyline and shrubbery seems to have grown up. Sadly no longer class 442's plastic pigs. Best comfy seats ever. Now just the uncomfortable seats on the desiro's.
Pigs weren't bad but the best seats are on the unrefurbished 158/159s. I tried to tell my company at the time, SWR, just to change the moquette but they had to put firmer seating in 🙄 At least the 1st are still the same unlike the Disastro 1st 🥴
The 444 isnt bad but the 450 is meh
@@HAHE-mn4tu First Class in the 444s wasn't bad at all until SWR ripped out the reclining 2+1 cloth seating and put in fixed, bolt upright 2+2 leather. More comfortable to sit in Standard.
@@kristinajendesen7111yeah really unfortunate and the now the only reason to get first class is so if the train is really busy you get a seat instead of extra comfort
Another rare example of the YT Algorillas getting it right for once as a suggestion and thank you to you for this/these videos.
I am still smiling as a result even though I didn't see my favourite like it or lump it lump of a building ~ the riverside Nine Elms Cold Store in all its unapologetic lump of concrete-ness.
Ditto you decided to turn your attention away from the still extant sidings for the long gone Necropolis Railway 4:30.
And if only we had a Smellovision option as we came past the Coffee Company building up from Vauxhall station! It used to be a powerful awakening of the imminent arrival in Waterloo but smells no more.
All those towers of rabbit hutches and all those people who thought moving in there and having a balcony would be good! The alternative of the unopenable windows on neighbouring towers is no better though.
Each to their own.
Thank you once again.
Used to love the smell from that coffee company roasting the beans. I used to lean out as a guard from a Pig or a slammer hoping it would waft my way.
@@kristinajendesen7111 Ha ha brilliant!
@@kristinajendesen7111 don't know if you ever noticed that it always smelt of 'burnt toast' around the Queenstown Road area. It still does!!
@@robtyman4281 Never noticed that but Clapham used to smell of dog food (I started in 1987), Hook smelt of chocolate 😋 before the factory was knocked down & became Tesco, Brsnksome smelt of chips from the chippy above 😋 and Poole smelt like dog or cat food - Millers Pies 😄
Oh and the stop blocks at Waterloo smelt like 💩 sometimes but I don't know if that was something to do with the slammers?
1994:
Slam doors- Gone
442 "plastic pigs"- Gone
159's- still here
455's- still here
Eurostar's- brand new in 94 gone to St Pancras and some scrapped.
30 years ago in my mind is the 70's or the 80's but the video is only one year before I was born , scary how fast the years are. Very cool video
Interesting to see what has changed - been & gone & what is new - Network South-East in 1994 but gone in 2024 - During the video - for a few seconds each video seemed to be a few seconds faster than the other but both caught up at the end!!! Thanks for showing!!! 🙂🚂🚂🚂
Kudos to video quality in 1994
Love riding into a new city the last 10 minutes before the main station is the same globally. Labyrinth of tracks. Weeds and vegetation everywhere and mess. Nice slow ride walled in by the new and old structures. 😊
Amazing video. Scary how time flies
Not just the skyline that's changed. Change isn't always for the better.
Actually quite pleased to see that there's more vegetation rather than less.
It’s not really a positive thing for the railways, but it does help to soften the view somewhat.
@JustMeUpNorth ahh yes, the dreaded "leaves on the tracks"... Most of the extra vegetation is probably there because they're lazier about maintenance now!
Cool video. Appreciate these kind of stuffs.
Love the sound
You should have tried harder to drive the train so that you matched the two items of footage so that the buildings and tracks that existed in both timelines appeared at the same time
- i think this should have been easy to do if you stayed at the same speed in both timelines because otherwise it looks sloppy don’t make that same mistake when you do the 2054 version although maybe you’ll have got bored of waiting by then…
lol Im JOKING !!!!!!!
I’m kidding - honestly - I LOVE this video and thought it was FASCINATING AND was gobsmacked at how much of the 1994 London I knew and was familiar with but have forgotten over time .
Thanks for bringing me home to the happier more optimistic times of when top of the pops went out live on a Thursday then Friday and EVERYONE watched it at the same time and so knew exactly where their top ten fave musicians were in the world at that precise moment - it was comforting - nice - it felt less disorientating as I feel now - I never did it but I used to think - ALL I have to do is get in the car and get to the studio and they’ll be RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF ME ! And I’ll get arrested (!) I miss britpop Cool Britannia and a labour landslide GOVERNMENT that won because they had quite good ideas and not because their ideas were awful just not as awful as the conservatives even more awful ideas.
However it is better today in other areas - I don’t miss the racism the deaths from ecstasy or hiv and I don’t miss take that even though they’re still around because they don’t know when to let the cash cow die with dignity -l they’re sucking on those udders until they get every damn last drop o milk coin (!)
Hope my joke didn’t trigger you - I love this video so much I couldn’t resist -
If I say “good effort” or nothing at all THATS when I think it’s a not good video lol bravo 🎉🎉🎉❤
😆
I think it is quite ironic the fact that on the one hand, there seems to be an explosion in things like tap rooms and craft beer venues in areas adjacent to these locations shown. Yet at the same time, there are people begging on the street, and people having to go to a food bank or unable to afford to live in London anymore, including in these hideous high-rise apartments. In the sixties and into the seventies, and up until the mid-seventies, this scene would have comprised of vast vistas of spaces made up of working-class areas. It would have consisted of bomb-damaged sites, wasteland/ factories/ terraced housing/ and newer laid-out council housing and flats.
Although I come from the outer suburbs of London, I think I would hate to live in Greater London now. The scenery depicted in this skyline represents areas which encountered bomb damage. then slum clearance particularly from the late Nineteen Fifties through to the early nineteen seventies, and the shift of people out to the suburbs and beyond. It would have looked quite grimy and polluted. Think of the film '' Up the junction, '' made in the mid nineteen sixties. This would be a good depiction of this area at the time. There would have been a clear aim by The Greater London Council, to make these areas less crowded and more green, with more green space and lower population density.
Looking at the 2024 skyline, it would seem that the unfettered hand of neo-liberalism/ free market forces, fuelled by global capitalism have been allowed to do the reverse. But it is not working-class people, if there is still such a term, moving into these areas. Who in their right mind would be prepared to live in a shoe box for a million pounds, with no garden and hardly any space, and who would have the money to? Or more to the point who can afford to own these properties, and who are they being rented out to? It is certainly not the original or former inhabitants of these areas, because they would not be able to afford to live here anymore. Neither would people on modest to average incomes, whatever this is, in order to be able to live comfortably in London, and thrive, rather than just survive.
It's not just the skyline which has changed massively either.
Do miss the old "slam-doors" and the toothpaste livery
High rise hell. Glad I’m still in the West of England!
Coming to you soon.
Good to see the 159s and 455s in both!
Brilliant video!
Fantastic! Well done. What would you think about chopping out some footage, to keep the two movies in sync as the trains pass the same building.
I worked trains into Waterloo for 31 years from Bournemouth and Salisbury. I could have been on one of those Pigs as the guard. Went driving at Sals in 1999. Wish I had shares in the crane hire companies for those construction sites when they were going up ££££££££££
Great comparison, I prefer the first one.
How fascinating! Thank you, great video.
All those developments, all that money and yet Londons councils have much smaller budgets than they did then. Its sickening
Because there is still not enough development to meet demand.
No Eurostar trains yet until November 14th 1994 but the brand new Waterloo Int'l terminal is already in place and looking magnificent. A sad sight today.
Incredibile footage
The big difference being that in 1994 the Eurostar was running from Waterloo. Shame we couldn’t see any Eurostar trains in that clip.
Brilliant footage
bro the Class 158 is super hard to find in London
Amazing vid mate!
I'm guessing you did a bit of work to sync them up a bit better? Feels like they match a little closer now. Nice.
You guessed wrong. We accidentally left off the web address at the end. While at it Peter added a further description but the edit was exactly the same.
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing.
This gives me “SCR 4 years ago” vibes
Brilliant this MK2 version works way better thank you for sharing
Amazing. Thanks for sharing
1994 was a great year! The fact it was now 30nyears ago makes me feel very very old.
I definitely prefer the '94 skyline.
I dont like change 😂
good to see they haven’t wasted much money maintaining and modernising the railway infrastructure
the fact that in 2024 no part of this corridor is even electrified is astonishing...
It has 3rd rail electrification as it did back in 94
3rd rail are used for electrification
Waterloo looked better 30 years they didn’t have to get rid of the lswr canopies
Nicely done. And fascinating. Nothing in Waterloo International - was this before Eurostars started in November '94?
Also interesting to see that some of this is unused/alternative footage from Wessex, as that ends with a coupling up to a second 442 on a different platform (having recently re-watched the ending is fresh in my mind)
I think it looks much more visually appealing now tbh! It was a bit dull before.
I miss the slam doors on the Southern network
Not just the skyline that has changed.. so have the people lol
As has been the case since the anglo-saxon invasion.
@ not since 1994 numpty
@@johnhogan6563 lol I know. I was merely pointing out that change happens decade after decade, since the dawn of time.
The common global perception of London is of beautiful old buildings occupied by older men doing Things. Many people don't realize just how much the city is still growing. I know most Americans would be SHOCKED by this kind of thing.
Even in the most niche things, Brits cannot stop foaming at the mouth for an opportunity to dunk on Americans. Rent free
Yes, I'm surprised. I think of London as not changing that much, new people in old buildings, at least in the city center. This is very interesting.
How absolutely fascinating.
It may be the film difference but the sky looks hazy in the old video. Back in the 90s diesels were really polluting, think of all the buses and taxis in London, this was before DPFs were fitted.
It may also be the fact that the 1994 film would not have been shot in HD, so that might the reason it doesn't look as sharp; and is abit 'grainy' and ever so slightly blurry at the edges.
Bearing in mind, smartphones and DSLR cameras didn't exist 30 years ago. So the 1994 film would have been shot using an old-style large video camera (probably mounted on a tripod in the cab). And would have had analogue video cassettes containing film reel. Whereas the present day film will have been shot on a (digital HD) smartphone mounted on a gimbal.
HD was not available either, back then. It only started appearing in the late 90's - and even then, it didn't become the 'norm' for another decade. Interestingly to coincide with the advent of social media, and arrival of smartphones.
@@robtyman4281 thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.
I think you can infer something about the air quality by the way the haze affects the appearance of buildings with increasing distance. I think it is more pronounced in the 1994 footage.
@@thromboid I think it has more to do with the actual film quality.
Don't forget - the 1994 film will be analogue....using actual physical film reel; whereas the 2024 film will be digital HD shot on a smartphone. The difference in overall film quality between the two, will be significant and instantly noticeable because of this fact.
Another thing, the time of year also plays a part. If the 1994 film was shot in the summer months, then there'll be some 'haze' because warmer air has this effect on making buildings in the distance seem more blurry.
The air is in my opinion far cleaner in London now than it was 30 years ago. Congestion charge, ULEZ, electric buses and cabs, encouragement of cycling have all helped... in 1994 we were still merrily breathing in leaded petrol fumes.
Only thing that hadn't really chamged was the brief glimpse of the HoP and Big Ben at Vauxhall
the quality of the architecture has gone definitely gone backwards!
Well done on even thinking to do that 👏🏼👏🏼 Great video. 👍🏼
Почему за эти 30 лет у вас ум не добавился?!
An alternate take of the last section of Wessex? Interesting so you tried to film it twice at least?
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. I'm sure on the DVD I have of Wessex the train couples up to another 5WES when it arrives at Waterloo.
excellent video nice one
This is a fantastic video
Amazing!
The vegetation management was a lot better 30 years ago!
Cost cutting as far as they can 😔
when you realize its not the tracks its the background being completely changed
It’s quite terrifying that the rail line and its infrastructure has remained more or less unchanged but the skyline is barely recognisable.
For all thrill seeker nerds: 1994: Nemesis opened. 2024: Nemesis Reborn and Hyperia opened.
Most of the buildings didn’t exist a decade ago. Nine Elms and Battersea has changed so much.
It’s like watching Transport Fever IRL
Fascinating video. Thank you very much.
Brilliant video
Nice! Greetings from Germany
Very nice
Very cleverly done
Interesting comparison.
Dose anybody know what trains these were filmed on?
Great film, and very appropriate as Eurostar is 30 years old in November. Do any trains still use the flyover?
Many "newer" parts of London already looked really ugly in the 70s when I first visited. Postmodernism and the architectural crimes that come with it have surely left their mark on the place.
1994: London
2024: Londonistan
London in 1994 was 6.8 million, 8.8 million in 2022 (+30%). Building height is dramatic, until 1980s London grew out not up. Railway is fascinating too as noted would be better synced, trains are travelling at different speeds so awkward. Ideally have the right 1 sec behind to allow comparison. Run the speeds at same time intervals between markers like posts structures points.
What's interesting is what _hasn't_ changed, like the fabricated buffer-stop faceplates!
Fascinating. Thanks.
Was signal W6 at red?
Do you miss Network Southeast
people in 3034 Britain in 2024 to 3034