Should the England manager be English? | LBC debate
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Thomas Tuchel has been confirmed as England's new manager, becoming the Three Lions' third foreign coach.
The German, who has also previously managed Paris St Germain, becomes only the third non-Englishman to hold the post after Sven-Goran Eriksson and Fabio Capello.
Labelling it an "honour", the German manager explained taking up the role ahead of England's 2026 World Cup qualifying campaign is a "huge privilege".
Gareth Southgate's successor had been in talks with the FA in recent weeks, with the decision to recruit Tuchel approved by the FA Board early last week according to reports.
Tuchel will be assisted by English coach Anthony Barry, who is currently the assistant manager for the Portugal national team under Roberto Martínez.
Apologising to fans who want an English coach managing the nation, he said: "I am sorry that I have a German passport.
"All of these supporters felt my passion for the Premier League and the country. I loved to live here.
"Hopefully I can show them that I am proud to be the English manager and I will do everything to show respect to this job and this country."
But Tuchel told reporters he brings a "British edge" to that German passport.
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Farage doesn't think england should have a German manager but he has a German wife ha
His wife's not England manager derrr
You don't make sense😅
If farage thinks its unbritish not to have a English born manager is it unbritish to not to have british born wife. Give him a chance at the job and judge him on results
and a German King
@@edcleverley9333 I liked William of Orange, the Dutch king. He really annoyed the Irish and that's fine by me!
Who cares for a citizenship of someone? Win titles!! Please.
Most of the British media fearmongers constantly about foreigners
Why do we care about the citizenship of players then?
Indigenous representation is important.
GB News viewers are going crazy
@@Dingo-u4x I can tell you for a fact tuchel doesn’t think the same way look at the interview where he talks about how harsh the German media was to him and how he loved living in England and how he felt respect by the media here plus his greatest success was managing an English club Chelsea and also he was never considered for the German job after what happen to him at Bayern Munich the way I look at it is he has a point to prove against his own country that treated him poorly and what better way to do that then try and win the World Cup with England I’m here for it
Farage’s wife is German, the irony
Wrong
Nigel Farage is "proud" of Gareth Southgate's achievement. Is this the same Nigel Farage that said *_Gareth Southgate is "out of touch" with England fans who "have a right to boo when players take the knee for Marxist BLM_* "?
On pitch success v going down on one knee?
Very logical
@@voodoochile333 Logical? To whom?
Don't mention why the Royal Family changed its name from a German one....
Because they were German?
@@kb4903Blackadder Goes Forth:
"I'm as British as Queen Victoria"
"So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German?!"
@@kb4903
Nope, they had one German ancestor and are directly descended from GODWINSON.
@@jeremywhite9667Phillip was Greek. Makes his kids half Greek
@@jeremywhite9667 Ha decended from George I of the house of Hanover. Albert too.
He doesn't need to justify why he was hired.... Absolute disgrace of a question. Just when you thought the british media cannot stoop any lower
Racism frankly
Then move to another country.
The FA set the eligibility criteria and he passed them. Simple as that.
@@jeremywhite9667 interesting non-sequitur, especially since you goosestep to media in England run by an Aussie.
@@lougiacobbi725
No, I don't.
Farage has a German passport.
Why didnt Farage marry an English woman then, if nationality has any purpose in relationships.
What's that got to do with football?
@@voodoochile333 - You have some remarkable listening skills.
@XTRAIT-em4rx is Farages ex wife a 30goals a season player?
If not, jog on.
@@voodoochile333 why should an England political figure with German sympathies and a reliance on Aussie news be speaking about football. Jog on, mate.
This really doesn't matter on so many levels. Let footballists have a tantrum with their xenophobia. Also, let's be clear, footballists probably don't even know what xenophobic even means.
I can see the argument either way but I bet Germany would never appoint an English manager
Boomers still thinking ww2 is on.
National humiliation is saying that on a national radio broadcast. Embarrassing stuff honestly.
Nothing has been said about a Dutch manager and the women’s team 🤷
@davespeedy5365 the Dutch aren't our arch rivals are they
It's tribalism .. people with fight and flight .. it's like chimp stuff
@@waynegodwin426 England aren’t Germany’s main rivals, the Netherlands are…
@@waynegodwin426 England isn't Germany's arch rival
now after a long time England will se how an elite manager manages his team...
@@morpheus934 Tuchel isn't an elite manager though
@@franklingoodwin He won the Champions League against arguably the best team of this generation.
@@dannyquinn9128yeah he’s miles better than any English manager alive.
@@franklingoodwin he is better than southgate mate
@@franklingoodwinwhat do you class as elite?
He shouldn't need to answer such ridiculous questions about him being German.
Don’t mention the war
I’m genuinely surprised that this is even an issue for a tiny minority of people. Then you read out that Farage is complaining about it so I’m less surprised now I know that.
There’s no such thing as “almost winning a competitor”, there is only winning or losing a competition and England relying on English people keep losing, it’s now the English way in football.
Him and the daily mail just to it’s as red meat to their followers/readers.
Immigrant taking our jobs 😂😂😂☺️
Don't think football fans care? Results speak.
They do care
@@petelawless811xenophobes care. We just finished praising Eriksons contribution to England
Yes it is Xenophobia, we need the best man for the job, not the best English manager for the job.
He's not the first non-English England manager 🤷♂️
Also, we import overseas talent for every other business sector 🤷♂️
Did the other 2 non English managers work?
Why don't we import overseas talent for our national team players then?
@@VPhantom-rf3qo we do already. Rice, Grealish,..there's probably a lot of the first 11 that could play for other countries.
@redeyegooner You mention Rice and Grealish who have 1 Irish grandparent but fail to mention Saka who has 2 Nigerian parents. I have an Irish grandparent, that does not make me Irish. Having 2 Irish parents would make me Irish so Saka is Nigerian not English
@@VPhantom-rf3qo Boris the American Prime Minister definitely didn't care if Britain thrived or failed
I’d rather have an English coach. But having a top level coach is a blessing
There should be a conservation on why the premier league is so under represented by English managers.
They do need protection. 😉
All I care about is winning the games, I don't give a , , , , where the manager comes from
Coming over here, taking our jobs.
😂😂😂
Goooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol
Imagine being so stubborn, then you dont want the best manager for the job just because they're born.....
You don't understand international football, it's about the best of each country making the best of what they have representing their country, if you just want the best you may aswell bring in transfer fees an buy world's best players, it's a national disgrace
@@Andrew-dc5ub dumbest thing I've ever read
Didn't we have this conversation already? Sven?!
Those who are complaining about this are the same little Englander's who voted for brexit!
i was just coming here to say the same thing.
I'm not complaining and I voted for Brexit.
Garrett Southgate getting replaced by a German is pure irony😊
It's a great appointment, we've had Capello and Sven.
It’s just a win watching all these people getting bent out of shape
The last time an English trainer won the First Division/Championship/PL was Howard Wilkinson in 1992 with Leeds. I think that says it all. I really hope TT can win a trophy.
Why is this news?
Why are you here if you don’t care ?
Because football is important to a lot of people in this country. Though mostly working class, so I guess that's a problem.
I think everyone has to be English. The dinner staff at St George’s park, the cleaners etc. not way to be proper loyal.
The callers this programme gets 😂
and the fact this is even a topic for debate highlights the level of racism 😔
Well... yeah. It's a national team. If there aren't any English managers of the calibre required, then we need to do better and produce them.
How did they feel when the Lionesses won the Euros ???
Posted before you listened to the video, huh? He made this point to one of the callers already.
Why would an English political figure with German political leanings and a reliance on Aussie news be speaking on English football other than to spread xenophobia
Could you imagine Germany having an English manager no chance, of course it matters, England should be managed by an "Englishman"
Not even England want an English Manager, so the chances of some successful International Team like Germany wanting one are zero anyway. Better to be going the way of the English Cricket Team and appointing someone with a bit of flair.
That's because English managers are still trying to sit on 1-0 leads and are terrified of generating offense.
In a lot of sports the coach/manager position has the same nationality requirements as the players, it's actually weird that football doesn't. That's just a statement of fact, not an opinion either way on what should or should not be.
Tom, we all work waistcoats just because of Southgate. I’m heartbroken he’s stepped down. Let’s give Thomas a chance.
Id prefer if he was English but let's face it, he's a step up from Southgate and noone has better qualities and CV, that is available.
You can't criticise too much when we've already had 2 foreign managers.
It does take gloss off any future achievements, but then again, we haven't achieved much.
Garbage has a German wife, isn’t he? Couldn’t he find a beautiful English rose? 😉 Dan is a patriot who doesn’t believe that England can win the championship… very patriotic. 🙃
I understand the argument that a “national team” should consist of that nation’s peoples and not people from a different country. But if you don’t have anyone else better available, there is no such rule against it, why not get a top coach who has experience winning 🏆??
Heartbreaking takes from my compatriots
Gareth Southgate was the best manager England had had, and will ever have.
The improvement from England never getting through qualifiers to making it into quarters, semis and finals cant be underestimated.
As a non-football fan, I dont get the fascination with winning all the time. That and sacking a manager as soon as you lose. The whole nature of the game is one team wins, one loses.
The national disgrace caller is Colin from Portsmouth is'nt he?
did england not used to have a non English manager before?
Some real Basil Fawltys here
We've had an Italian and a Swede previously, was Farage proud of them?
People are ok with black people playing for England but not with tuchel as manager. Why???
I think in 2024 if you are still thinking like that we have more things to worry about than football.
If he's a Smurf and goes on to win a major trophy I couldn't care less
Like to know where this bloke is getting 100 to 1 for England. I'll take that! Who's the bookmaker?
Xenophobic? That's the question for thomas tuchel if england play germany in the world cup.. That's the concern of english fans like..joe cole saying in 2010 south africa, capello and his staff in the england training camp hearing them more passionate about italy games than the England team...
Isn’t a lot of the coaching staff English though?
@@kb4903he will bring his own coaching staff if that effects the current English staff, we will see but I believe it will..
Gossip and heresay is not fact.
@@TheWiseJames talk sport Joe cole capello make your own decision..if I was an English manager in charge of the germany national team.and I played England in the world cup final I would still be happy if the German side I managed lost that final.. sentiment for opposition in sport at this level sub conscience or not..is a disadvantage..
@@Dingo-u4x he is the best man for the job. End of
England should have employed a Pakistani manager.. Endof.. LOL... Tony cuenca
But Nigel a lot of the current English soccer team are the son's of Immigrants so why don't you get rid of them first?
All those brilliant English football managers out there . I don't get it
I think everyone has to be English. The dinner staff at St George’s park, the cleaners etc. not way to be proper loyal. lol
We've had loads of yes men and won only one thing ever and that was almost 60 years ago.
so england manager position be only for someone who is english? sounds like DEI hire to me lollll
English players are amazing. English managers are poor.
If you look at rhe womens team, whose their manager, and how many trophies have they won?
Should the England players be English???……… crickets
Take back our country!!! 😢😢😢
It’s football 😂. It’s not that deep
We've tried foreign managers before and ended up with FA
... oh yes all those trophies won by english coaches ...
I think TT is a great coach but listen.
Just imagine if we won the world cup with him, imagine what all of Germany would be saying....
"Hahaha you couldn't win a tournament for 60 years until you had a GERMAN coach 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Hahaha we're the best"
They'll probably make terrace songs too. We would be mocked by the Germans forever lol
Who cares what they say? I wouldn't care
Germans arnt as petty and living in the past as we do.
@@kb4903 lol that's a great answer too. Let's hope so 👍🏼
The problem is that England doesn’t have that many top level managers. Basically a handful and none of them have that much experience at the highest level. When you compare us to countries like France, Germany and Spain who seem to have a wealth of talented managers, it’s not really a surprise we’d be willing to try a non English manager.
Honestly... 😳
Who cares, most of the team aren't English.
English is a race, unlike British which is a nationality.
Let's put it another way, you can have Africans playing for France, but they will never be Gauls.
British is not a nationality, it's a geographic term, british isles, like European or scandinavian.
L B C wants to be ruled by Europe so surprised they discuss a subject that they think is beyond discussing in the dictatorship they want Labour to run.
Oh dear, what a sad little comment from a sad little man.
Deranged and embarrassing
I m not an England fan, but I would like to have seen Carsley and Mark Robins partnership. I find it a strange appointment.
Carlsey never managed in the premier league he a b plus manager
I want to do an MRI of the officials from FA, what is the process of how they came to the conclusion that the guy who failed repeatedly with clubs can run a national team? The issue is not his citizenship but his skills.
He won the champions league...
German manager managing a majority non English football team, but don't notice this progressive utopia you might be called a name by a useful idiot, and there can honestly be nothing worse than being labelled "fill in here" by people who dispise you and always will because you refuse to stop noticing reality.
Non English? All the current England players were born in England. And the only eligible player that wasn't is Raheem Sterling (who moved from Jamaica when he was about 5 or 6)
Is this meant to sound profound?
@@djstucNo it's meant to sound accurate, which bit are you struggling with?
What language are you trying to speak?😂
@@Lezzyboy87 that one all the patriots speak, a rank version of our beautiful language.
He a terrible choice
Sacked for psg
Sacked for bayman
Sacked for Chelsea
Sacked for dortman
He is a terrible decision
Who better and English you would have?
Show me a football manager who hasn’t been sacked 😅
Yoda @@kb4903
Everybody gets sacked by Chelsea!