The fall of the Thran empire and the creation of Phyrexia takes place thousands of years before Urza and Mishra were even born. There’s no reason to think The Brothers War would shed any light on pre-Yawgmoth phyrexia.
I can see Nicol Bolas being the one who killed the "ancient evil planeswalker who assumed the form of a dragon". After all, being himself a dragon probably saw it as an insult. Young Nicol Bolas surely despised humas before his ascension as he witnessed the murder of one of his sisters briefly after his birth. So a human planeswalker who took the form of a dragon was nothing but a mockery to him.
Considering that by the start of the brothers' war, Phyrexia was already Phyrexia, sadly I don't think we're gonna get much insight on its true origin in this set... but maybe we get to know more about Gix, at least!
Wonderful work. One thing you missed is Phyresis was originally developed to be a vaccine for a disease destroying the Thran known as Phthisis. Yawgmoth went a little too far on the development of it, resulting in the Oil we know and love today. I believe Yawgmoth used oil from Pre-Phyrexia to complete his design, though it's been many years since I've last read the novel. Bonus: Phyresis is a card from Mirrodin Besieged and Phthisis is from Time Spiral.
This is all in the novel The Thran by J. Robert King right? Its been awhile since I read that book as well. Phyrexia was another world that Yawgmoth discovered, finding a dead god at the center of it if I remember. I forget how he got there, but I think it was via a planeswalker that he befriended. Like you said, its been awhile.
@@davidruff4826 Dyfed was the planeswalker that brought Yawgmoth to Phyrexia, and helped him until he lobotomized her with the intention of having her dissected to find her "planeswalking organ"; the "god" whose corpse he found was another planeswalker, which was never named.
I don’t want to Phyrexia to be a place that was created by Yawgmoth, I want to be a place that was found by him. The implication that it is something from somewhere else long ago that was left over. That there were horrors in the distant past so immense that their very ashes are enough to destroy everything we know. I like that mystery.
Just off the top of my head, but perhaps the creator died because an artificial/artifact plane wasn't able to create mana to sustain them? In some of the old books, mana was *everything* to a planeswalker, they had to constantly consume more just to survive. There is Serra's Realm, but that was (obviously) a white mana plane. Maybe Phyrexia was just colorless at first, and that's like trying to live on only eating boiled potatoes. It was making a LOT of mana for him to consume, so he was just sitting there not realizing he was slowly dying of malnutrition. And when he did there was a sudden surge of unused mana building up there, which is why it was able to draw someone's attention so soon. But Yawgmoth wasn't a planeswalker (yet), so he wouldn't have relied on mana and could live there just fine. And by the time he became one, he had turned it black.
Personally i wouldnt be surprised if he just died by pretty mundane reasons like: - He use too much power to make the plane and died on the spot. - In his obsesion to make the plane he died of exhaustion. - He was mortally wounded somewhere else and escaped to his plane but died. or my favorite... - He just fell some stairs and broke his neck.
Bringing back Urza and Mishra (albeit using time travel) really makes me wonder if they want to bring back Yawgmoth. I wouldn't be surprised to see a plot where Elesh Norn tries to resurrect him in her own body, or turn herself into a being like Yawgmoth became. Alternatively, there was that novel where Karona interacted with a weakened Yawgmoth. Her meeting him was declared not-canon and that Yawgmoth was dead, but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to retcon the retcon.
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A dark world with 9 spheres/levels that brings pain, death, and corruption of life that was originally ruled by a dragon? Sounds like Phyrexia was heavily inspired by Paradise Lost and Dante.
Just got back into magic after years being away...only doing mtg arena but new phyrexia was my first real block that I knew what I was doing and the story is one of my favorite so glad there going back to it and can't wait to see the cards
My theory is that because phyrexia was an artificial plane, it simply taxed the creator to death. Much like when Sarah explained to Urza how she constantly needed to maintain her world, and that its creation nearly killed her
I was just watching a video about the hellraiser movies and the ending music from that video and the starting music from this one were the same. I have the worst good luck ever lol
Glistening oil gives me Alien-Borg vibes, an insidious intelligence assimilating tech and organisms alike in pursuit of perfection. Wizards, hore me, I got ideas for this. Lol
I've speculated that bolas's bones could be the dragon. But the planswalker, liked to take the form of a dragon. Chromium? From a different time? I love old stories. But Mtg said the identity would never be truly revealed. Dun dun dunnn!
@@arkanixarcmage6225 Dakkon Blackblade Killed Chromium & Piru on dominaria while the dragons were under control of Geyadrone Dihada. I was thinking the same thing but I forgot how they went out .
I think that note that the Caves of Koilos are letting more Phyrexians loose makes me think that Yawgmoth may return. I wouldn’t put it past him that he wouldn’t have had a failsafe just in case he was destroyed
I wonder if Teferi's time travel will cause his return much like how the avengers accidently let an earlier version of thanos gain access to time travel
You underestimate the power of the legacy weapon. It was designed for one purpose and one ourpose only. To destroy Yawgmoth. Had he died in some other way, say the detonation of the bombs that Urza brought to Phyrexia, he might have found a way to survive.
Not underestimating. But honestly we do live in an age of nostalgia. Like ‘remember when this happened?’ kind of age, and I feel like Yawgmoth will return through some ridiculous shenanigans like time travel. Teferi can do things with time and Karn was made of silver just because it was the only metal that wouldn’t degrade while traveling through time. Ertai came back too, so that had me worried
@@DreamDaddie funny enough the mending itself is also an example is wizards willing to break it's own rules. Also ya the silver golem is cool, but in the novel where he is first talked about, karn makes a friend and she gives him a pendant made of vaishino metal that karn notices does not get as hot as he does when the time travel happens. He does not mention this to urza though. The implications that lizard people metal is even better for time travel amuses me greatly.
I'm surprised we never had an official name or fan-name for the Pre-Phyrexia plane. "Prime 9" could be used as a placeholder name. I hope we get more information in the future.
Ob Nixihilis being involved with the Phyrexians in some way, shape or form would be cool, Ob being a pre-mending planeswalker has the potential to have a rich history of chaotic shenanigans, I mean what were his true motives on New Capenna?, Surely he had some sort of interaction with Urabrask while he was there. I want Wizards to build more on Ob in the future, so much potential.
I know you probably don't remember a comment I made on a video long ago but I feel like you and few other vorthos content creators shouldve been reached out to WOTC to do the lore because y'all truly care about the story and I feel like y'all would do it some good overall.
For some reason, I get the feeling that the story of the creation of Phyrexia involves time travel, perhaps the planeswalker that created it is actually post Mending and through some causal loop ends up in the past and creates it, or instead that is how they died. Idk, I just get that feeling for some reason. That, or it's "death" was a necessary sacrifice to complete Phyrexia (perhaps going with the point below) I also feel like what happened to Yawgmoth, the whole merging stuff, might have been him merging with the World Soul. I believe that's the right name. It's a feature of planes we have seen in the lore before, including many mentions of the Soul of Ravnica, I believe one character whose name escapes me absorbed the World Soul from her home plane. I believe they are mentioned a few times with the story of Davriel, or some other mysterious character. It is as it sounds, the soul of the plane. Not too much is known about them, but what is known would fit the idea of Yawgmoth effectively merging with the plane to become a god.
Could it be that this unknown Planeswalker somehow fused with the world he created and then the Leylines where corrupted which slowly killed the Planeswalker and turned the world into this nightmare form I remember that Nissa said the Leylines of Innistrad where sick or something like that resulting in all the horrors of Innistrad (that wheren´t a big old eldrazi) and the ones on Amonkhet where baiscly dead so if something would happen to the leylines it effects the whole world (of course only if there where leylines to begin with because the world didn´t form natural)
Yawgmoth merged with the dying plane, by consuming the flesh of creator of the plane. Yawgmoth fell in love with the plane and wanted to do anything to perserve/keep it alive.
What if it was Mishra (after merging with the dragon engine) who created this plane. Like he didn't die after the sylex blast, but also turned into planeswalker. Maybe he got displaced out of time and it was a loop where he would be compleated by Phyrexia but also be their original plane's creator too. And then shortly after building this plane (maybe to make an army to attack Dominaria) his brother kills him...again?
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How about the planeswalker that created it isnt actually dead... and that everything that has happened (like Yawgmoth turning it into Phyrexia and waging his war) was all a part of his plan? Maybe he knew the mending was coming and this was the only way to escape it... and Tef's time traveling will somehow allow him to resurrect as a pre mending planeswalker in a post mending multiverse? That would be a pretty big threat...
Yawgmoths experiments where is the beginnings biological. The fusing of humans and other biological flesh to make them stronger. In phyrexia his experiments on humans changed in a way that the plane itself was changing the humans sent there to heal. Helping them grow stronger and taller. To see phyrexia in a better light the story would have to go further back to the time of the Thran.
Didn't Dyfed also die from getting a special power disrupting dagger planted in her dome by a mortal? She was also a pre mending planeswalker with all the god like powers that come with that. Still died to a mortal betraying her, though. If it can happen to one of them, it's not so unimaginable that it couldn't have happened to another. Maybe the dragontransforming planeswalker took a shine to a mortal as well, showed him his new plane to flex and eventually paid the same price Dyfed did. Maybe that's a bit farfetched, but the point is: It doesn't have to be something super powerful that did it. A clever enough mortal can do it too.
It wasn't a special weapon, Yawgmoth just stabbed her in the brain (presumably with something similar to an ice pick, though it's never actually specified) and scrambled her brain to pulp; the next time we see her, her corpse is being kept alive for vivisection (since Yawgmoth wanted to become a planeswalker at the time) and her ruined brain has been replaced with clockwork so it can't reform and allow her to destroy Phyrexia or just leave. TL;dr, she went out like a punk.
so.,. yawgmoth...found it.....and didn't create it....sooooo what ever killed that pre mending planes walker is ..wandering around out there..... with all his premending powers no less.....
Wtf you talking about. Already there is a novel that explains the origins of Phyrexia circa 99. The brothers wars has nothing to do with. We even have the cards for most of the guys on the story expect for human gix and dyfed. The Fall of the Thran even have a saga card
phyrexian dreadnaught yeah, that leviathan and polar kraken. The big creatures all worth nothing, god i remember being in elementary school, and kids would love these and thought they were the greatest and best cards lmfao, becaues they couldnt understand the game yet, all they could understand was 11/11. I still laugh about this with some of my friends, i still keep a few legacy decks. Not a fan of the direction the game started to go later on.
Powerstones were the origin of phthisis, the disease Yawgmoth set out to cure. He named the cure Phyresis, and further used it to build his idea of "perfect humans," then when he found Phyrexia he named the plane after his process of perfection.
@@DaDunge Implanting powerstones was the fist step in the "strengthening" part of phyresis, but wasn't part of curing phthisis (though he might have told people it was)
10 bucks says that the new "story" will involve time travel and Elesh Norn ends up being the progenitor of the phyrexians in some form of "you are your own grandpa" scenario. Presumably in an attempt to escape with her life after whatever event
@@DaDunge I agree, but we also don’t know anything about him before he died really. Maybe he was a completely different person? I know it’s a long shot lol.
@@DaDunge I don’t recall. To my recollection he’s been spirit pretty much since we knew about him. I could be mistaken though. I haven’t really looked at it in a while
@@TheHeartofPraise from the thran novel, the planeswalker was believed to be human who prefers the form of a dragon. If that bit of information is true, then it couldn't be Ugin since ugin was dragon to begin with and he never took a human form. Another point is that Ugin died in only two places: in the Meditation Realm and in Tarkir. In both instances, Bolas killed him. So it's very unlikely that the dead dragon Planeswalker is Ugin.
I want the story to be awesome, but I feel like I have been saying that for so many years that I might see mere competence as greatness now. War of the Spark had potential, but Wizards is at least somewhat self-aware and knew if they made bold choices like yeeting Bolas, it would be up to them to create a new and more interesting threats or characters to arise from the power vacuum. I at least respect the fact that they knew they would fuck it up if they tried, opting to manufacture another sterile, dogshit story that reads like bad fanfic. That was something they knew they could realistically deliver on.
We always assume Dyfed's intent was benign, but what if Phyrexia was always Dyfed's creation that she wanted to gift her race for whatever experiment she had in mind. She was Thran afterall so some level of artifice would most likely be of interest to her.
Possibility: Sarkhan is compleated, battles Teferi, and is blasted back in time to pre-Thran times. He inherits new power in pre-mending times and decides to adopt his dragon form everywhere he goes since it requires so little effort. Eventually he creates new enemies and even creates the yet-to-be-named Phyrexia. Dyfed is one of his new enemies and battles him across the planes with a team of her time thus discovering his plane where he is eventually killed.
The fall of the Thran empire and the creation of Phyrexia takes place thousands of years before Urza and Mishra were even born. There’s no reason to think The Brothers War would shed any light on pre-Yawgmoth phyrexia.
Okay go make a video about it like this channel did. Or you know, be lazy lol.
@@whoismoop or you could just read the books
There’s a bunch of those already, in fact there’s one on this channel lol
How wouldn’t it shed any light? You never know what information can be revealed specially since yawg wasn’t the creator of phyrexia…
Wanted to do a little spooky speculation for October. Many players dont know the origins of Phyrexia. Hopefully we learn more in Brothers War!
I can see Nicol Bolas being the one who killed the "ancient evil planeswalker who assumed the form of a dragon". After all, being himself a dragon probably saw it as an insult. Young Nicol Bolas surely despised humas before his ascension as he witnessed the murder of one of his sisters briefly after his birth. So a human planeswalker who took the form of a dragon was nothing but a mockery to him.
Considering that by the start of the brothers' war, Phyrexia was already Phyrexia, sadly I don't think we're gonna get much insight on its true origin in this set... but maybe we get to know more about Gix, at least!
Wonderful work.
One thing you missed is Phyresis was originally developed to be a vaccine for a disease destroying the Thran known as Phthisis. Yawgmoth went a little too far on the development of it, resulting in the Oil we know and love today. I believe Yawgmoth used oil from Pre-Phyrexia to complete his design, though it's been many years since I've last read the novel.
Bonus: Phyresis is a card from Mirrodin Besieged and Phthisis is from Time Spiral.
Yup thanks for that addition. This was more to go over the creation of the plane - but this is great info for the birth of Phyrexians!
That was actually the desease that also killed the creator of Phyrexia the First.
@@chrisheartman9263 Sauce?
This is all in the novel The Thran by J. Robert King right? Its been awhile since I read that book as well.
Phyrexia was another world that Yawgmoth discovered, finding a dead god at the center of it if I remember. I forget how he got there, but I think it was via a planeswalker that he befriended. Like you said, its been awhile.
@@davidruff4826 Dyfed was the planeswalker that brought Yawgmoth to Phyrexia, and helped him until he lobotomized her with the intention of having her dissected to find her "planeswalking organ"; the "god" whose corpse he found was another planeswalker, which was never named.
I don’t want to Phyrexia to be a place that was created by Yawgmoth, I want to be a place that was found by him. The implication that it is something from somewhere else long ago that was left over. That there were horrors in the distant past so immense that their very ashes are enough to destroy everything we know. I like that mystery.
Just off the top of my head, but perhaps the creator died because an artificial/artifact plane wasn't able to create mana to sustain them? In some of the old books, mana was *everything* to a planeswalker, they had to constantly consume more just to survive.
There is Serra's Realm, but that was (obviously) a white mana plane. Maybe Phyrexia was just colorless at first, and that's like trying to live on only eating boiled potatoes. It was making a LOT of mana for him to consume, so he was just sitting there not realizing he was slowly dying of malnutrition. And when he did there was a sudden surge of unused mana building up there, which is why it was able to draw someone's attention so soon.
But Yawgmoth wasn't a planeswalker (yet), so he wouldn't have relied on mana and could live there just fine. And by the time he became one, he had turned it black.
The Phyrexians are my favourite! I'm so happy that we're getting more Phyrexia stuff.
So canonically bionicle is set in the first sphere
Personally i wouldnt be surprised if he just died by pretty mundane reasons like:
- He use too much power to make the plane and died on the spot.
- In his obsesion to make the plane he died of exhaustion.
- He was mortally wounded somewhere else and escaped to his plane but died.
or my favorite...
- He just fell some stairs and broke his neck.
And while his consciousness was fading his last thoughts were "Why the fuck did i put stairs in this plain?"
Nah. Pre mending planeswalker have unlimited power. They're made of pure energy
@@juandelacruz2883 that brings the question on how he died even more
@@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena easy. Killed by other Planeswalkers. They maybe godlike but they still need the skills to channel all that energy.
@@juandelacruz2883 so what you are saying is the one that killed him was the one that found the plain and lied about finding him dead?
Bringing back Urza and Mishra (albeit using time travel) really makes me wonder if they want to bring back Yawgmoth. I wouldn't be surprised to see a plot where Elesh Norn tries to resurrect him in her own body, or turn herself into a being like Yawgmoth became. Alternatively, there was that novel where Karona interacted with a weakened Yawgmoth. Her meeting him was declared not-canon and that Yawgmoth was dead, but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to retcon the retcon.
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A dark world with 9 spheres/levels that brings pain, death, and corruption of life that was originally ruled by a dragon? Sounds like Phyrexia was heavily inspired by Paradise Lost and Dante.
As someone who just got into mtg and found out the preator & phyrexia, this was great fill in for some of the things I didn’t know!
Great choice of subjects my man. Your work is next level.
Thanks brother gotta get ready for that brothers war action.
Just got back into magic after years being away...only doing mtg arena but new phyrexia was my first real block that I knew what I was doing and the story is one of my favorite so glad there going back to it and can't wait to see the cards
I like to think that pre mending plainswalker killed himself because he got bored of being immortal
That’s a interesting take no doubt lol
@@AetherHub in a lot of fantasy work immortals get bored or tired of being immortal and eventually want to end
A mirrodin White artifact deck was my first MTG deck loved my luxodon and cat cards miss that world
My theory is that because phyrexia was an artificial plane, it simply taxed the creator to death. Much like when Sarah explained to Urza how she constantly needed to maintain her world, and that its creation nearly killed her
That might be. But its Serra not Sarah.
I was just watching a video about the hellraiser movies and the ending music from that video and the starting music from this one were the same. I have the worst good luck ever lol
Glistening oil gives me Alien-Borg vibes, an insidious intelligence assimilating tech and organisms alike in pursuit of perfection. Wizards, hore me, I got ideas for this. Lol
What about that Demonic Leviathan that Nicol Bolas randomly fought and consumed its power? Could it be this planeswalker in "dragon" form?
Hmm maybe by its corpse was on Phyrexia, not Dominaria like this leviathan was.
I've speculated that bolas's bones could be the dragon. But the planswalker, liked to take the form of a dragon. Chromium? From a different time? I love old stories. But Mtg said the identity would never be truly revealed. Dun dun dunnn!
@@arkanixarcmage6225 Dakkon Blackblade Killed Chromium & Piru on dominaria while the dragons were under control of Geyadrone Dihada. I was thinking the same thing but I forgot how they went out .
I think that note that the Caves of Koilos are letting more Phyrexians loose makes me think that Yawgmoth may return. I wouldn’t put it past him that he wouldn’t have had a failsafe just in case he was destroyed
I wonder if Teferi's time travel will cause his return much like how the avengers accidently let an earlier version of thanos gain access to time travel
You underestimate the power of the legacy weapon. It was designed for one purpose and one ourpose only. To destroy Yawgmoth. Had he died in some other way, say the detonation of the bombs that Urza brought to Phyrexia, he might have found a way to survive.
Not underestimating. But honestly we do live in an age of nostalgia. Like ‘remember when this happened?’ kind of age, and I feel like Yawgmoth will return through some ridiculous shenanigans like time travel. Teferi can do things with time and Karn was made of silver just because it was the only metal that wouldn’t degrade while traveling through time. Ertai came back too, so that had me worried
@@DreamDaddie funny enough the mending itself is also an example is wizards willing to break it's own rules.
Also ya the silver golem is cool, but in the novel where he is first talked about, karn makes a friend and she gives him a pendant made of vaishino metal that karn notices does not get as hot as he does when the time travel happens. He does not mention this to urza though. The implications that lizard people metal is even better for time travel amuses me greatly.
My absolute favorite tribe I’m hella new to MTG my 1st pack was release day of Kamigawa and I pulled Tamiyo compleated
Grats on the pull. You’ll see many more phyrexians soon :)
I'm surprised we never had an official name or fan-name for the Pre-Phyrexia plane. "Prime 9" could be used as a placeholder name. I hope we get more information in the future.
Is it just me, or is it weird that a pre-mending immortal planeswalker just so happened to die?
Ob Nixihilis being involved with the Phyrexians in some way, shape or form would be cool, Ob being a pre-mending planeswalker has the potential to have a rich history of chaotic shenanigans, I mean what were his true motives on New Capenna?, Surely he had some sort of interaction with Urabrask while he was there. I want Wizards to build more on Ob in the future, so much potential.
I love the Thran book. Great video editing.
I know you probably don't remember a comment I made on a video long ago but I feel like you and few other vorthos content creators shouldve been reached out to WOTC to do the lore because y'all truly care about the story and I feel like y'all would do it some good overall.
For some reason, I get the feeling that the story of the creation of Phyrexia involves time travel, perhaps the planeswalker that created it is actually post Mending and through some causal loop ends up in the past and creates it, or instead that is how they died. Idk, I just get that feeling for some reason. That, or it's "death" was a necessary sacrifice to complete Phyrexia (perhaps going with the point below)
I also feel like what happened to Yawgmoth, the whole merging stuff, might have been him merging with the World Soul. I believe that's the right name. It's a feature of planes we have seen in the lore before, including many mentions of the Soul of Ravnica, I believe one character whose name escapes me absorbed the World Soul from her home plane. I believe they are mentioned a few times with the story of Davriel, or some other mysterious character. It is as it sounds, the soul of the plane. Not too much is known about them, but what is known would fit the idea of Yawgmoth effectively merging with the plane to become a god.
Probably the real Nicol Bolas is in the center of Phyrexia controlling every phyrexian and the preators.
The origin of Phyrexia
It's Aku from Samurai Jack
Season 3, episode 11 ''The birth of Evil part 1''
Could it be that this unknown Planeswalker somehow fused with the world he created and then the Leylines where corrupted which slowly killed the Planeswalker and turned the world into this nightmare form
I remember that Nissa said the Leylines of Innistrad where sick or something like that resulting in all the horrors of Innistrad (that wheren´t a big old eldrazi) and the ones on Amonkhet where baiscly dead so if something would happen to the leylines it effects the whole world (of course only if there where leylines to begin with because the world didn´t form natural)
I can’t help but feel that illyanas crow man is the planeswalked you made the phyrexian plane
Yawgmoth merged with the dying plane, by consuming the flesh of creator of the plane. Yawgmoth fell in love with the plane and wanted to do anything to perserve/keep it alive.
Thanks for that additional info!
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What if it was Mishra (after merging with the dragon engine) who created this plane. Like he didn't die after the sylex blast, but also turned into planeswalker. Maybe he got displaced out of time and it was a loop where he would be compleated by Phyrexia but also be their original plane's creator too. And then shortly after building this plane (maybe to make an army to attack Dominaria) his brother kills him...again?
Well, no. Mishra was born ages and ages later after Yawgmoth, Rebecc, and Glacian.
Phyrexia is the plane of Mirrojin that was sent on a journey through time by the sacrifice of Teferi and some new planewalker.
This dark plague must be burned away. Not even a drop of that damned oil can be left, less this plague rise once more. For those they killed, and those they corrupted and took from us, we must burn them all.
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How about the planeswalker that created it isnt actually dead... and that everything that has happened (like Yawgmoth turning it into Phyrexia and waging his war) was all a part of his plan? Maybe he knew the mending was coming and this was the only way to escape it... and Tef's time traveling will somehow allow him to resurrect as a pre mending planeswalker in a post mending multiverse? That would be a pretty big threat...
I can't wait for teferi to go back in time and fucking everything up 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Very thorough, but the title is a bit of a stretch and a little misleading. Still, enjoyed the work!
All I want is Infect back in standard so I can do competitive
It’s very possible it could return
How cool would it be for Sarkhaan to know who created the plane
If anyone would know. It would possibly be him!
To be honest I like the idea that we don't know. Adds a bit of mystery.
Yawgmoths experiments where is the beginnings biological. The fusing of humans and other biological flesh to make them stronger. In phyrexia his experiments on humans changed in a way that the plane itself was changing the humans sent there to heal. Helping them grow stronger and taller. To see phyrexia in a better light the story would have to go further back to the time of the Thran.
Planeswalker might've "died" in order to become One with the plane.
Didn't Dyfed also die from getting a special power disrupting dagger planted in her dome by a mortal? She was also a pre mending planeswalker with all the god like powers that come with that. Still died to a mortal betraying her, though. If it can happen to one of them, it's not so unimaginable that it couldn't have happened to another. Maybe the dragontransforming planeswalker took a shine to a mortal as well, showed him his new plane to flex and eventually paid the same price Dyfed did.
Maybe that's a bit farfetched, but the point is: It doesn't have to be something super powerful that did it. A clever enough mortal can do it too.
Let’s just say the way they wrote pre mending Planeswalkers - they were either gods or whimps lol
It wasn't a special weapon, Yawgmoth just stabbed her in the brain (presumably with something similar to an ice pick, though it's never actually specified) and scrambled her brain to pulp; the next time we see her, her corpse is being kept alive for vivisection (since Yawgmoth wanted to become a planeswalker at the time) and her ruined brain has been replaced with clockwork so it can't reform and allow her to destroy Phyrexia or just leave. TL;dr, she went out like a punk.
Bolas would make sense because he had tezz keep tabs on them. But maybe urza did?
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im currently reading the Thran. holy shit a great book
so.,. yawgmoth...found it.....and didn't create it....sooooo what ever killed that pre mending planes walker is ..wandering around out there..... with all his premending powers no less.....
Well, who or what killed the pre-mending planeswalker is likely dead due to the mending. If not dead, then heavily nerfed by said mending.
Wtf you talking about. Already there is a novel that explains the origins of Phyrexia circa 99. The brothers wars has nothing to do with.
We even have the cards for most of the guys on the story expect for human gix and dyfed. The Fall of the Thran even have a saga card
Time to upgrade my infect deck.
Is it possible that when Sarkhan returned to the present, it split him based on timeline?
Like leaving a version of him in the past?
@@AetherHub precisely
@@AetherHub it would make sense to isolate himself if he knows any more tampering with the past could destroy the future he hoped for
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phyrexian dreadnaught yeah, that leviathan and polar kraken. The big creatures all worth nothing, god i remember being in elementary school, and kids would love these and thought they were the greatest and best cards lmfao, becaues they couldnt understand the game yet, all they could understand was 11/11. I still laugh about this with some of my friends, i still keep a few legacy decks. Not a fan of the direction the game started to go later on.
immortal yes but what if a dragon tricks you into deleting yourself from time ?????? # Sarkhan Val
I was under the impression that it was the powerstones that was the origin of phyrhesis not phyrexia itself.
Powerstones were the origin of phthisis, the disease Yawgmoth set out to cure. He named the cure Phyresis, and further used it to build his idea of "perfect humans," then when he found Phyrexia he named the plane after his process of perfection.
@@FailNinja76 But his cure was the implantation of expended powerstones right?
@@DaDunge Implanting powerstones was the fist step in the "strengthening" part of phyresis, but wasn't part of curing phthisis (though he might have told people it was)
We are the Borg
10 bucks says that the new "story" will involve time travel and Elesh Norn ends up being the progenitor of the phyrexians in some form of "you are your own grandpa" scenario. Presumably in an attempt to escape with her life after whatever event
1:45 Please planeswalkers were as far above the gods as the gods were above mortals.
A dead dragon planeswalker… I mean, we know someone like that. Is it possible it could be Ugin?
Phyrexia even as it was before Yawgmoth doesn't seem like the kind of plane Ugin would create.
@@DaDunge I agree, but we also don’t know anything about him before he died really. Maybe he was a completely different person? I know it’s a long shot lol.
@@TheHeartofPraise Didn't Ugin help with the whole imprisoning the Eldrazi before he died?
@@DaDunge I don’t recall. To my recollection he’s been spirit pretty much since we knew about him. I could be mistaken though. I haven’t really looked at it in a while
@@TheHeartofPraise from the thran novel, the planeswalker was believed to be human who prefers the form of a dragon. If that bit of information is true, then it couldn't be Ugin since ugin was dragon to begin with and he never took a human form.
Another point is that Ugin died in only two places: in the Meditation Realm and in Tarkir. In both instances, Bolas killed him. So it's very unlikely that the dead dragon Planeswalker is Ugin.
I want the story to be awesome, but I feel like I have been saying that for so many years that I might see mere competence as greatness now. War of the Spark had potential, but Wizards is at least somewhat self-aware and knew if they made bold choices like yeeting Bolas, it would be up to them to create a new and more interesting threats or characters to arise from the power vacuum.
I at least respect the fact that they knew they would fuck it up if they tried, opting to manufacture another sterile, dogshit story that reads like bad fanfic.
That was something they knew they could realistically deliver on.
We always assume Dyfed's intent was benign, but what if Phyrexia was always Dyfed's creation that she wanted to gift her race for whatever experiment she had in mind. She was Thran afterall so some level of artifice would most likely be of interest to her.
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Possibility: Sarkhan is compleated, battles Teferi, and is blasted back in time to pre-Thran times. He inherits new power in pre-mending times and decides to adopt his dragon form everywhere he goes since it requires so little effort. Eventually he creates new enemies and even creates the yet-to-be-named Phyrexia.
Dyfed is one of his new enemies and battles him across the planes with a team of her time thus discovering his plane where he is eventually killed.
Phyeixians are Borg??
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