Simon Jordan CLASHES With Reading Fan Over Their Part In The Club's Downfall! 🔥👀
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- White & Jordan are joined by Paul Mann, a passionate Reading fan and Member of the 'Sell Before We Dai' community. Dive into the heated discussion as we unpack the recent fan protests, the impending sanctions, and the emotional turmoil surrounding owner Dai Yongge. Paul sheds light on the relentless fight for the club's future, emphasizing the need for change.
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So basically Simon's only suggestion is to do nothing and accept liquidation. Nice
No where did Jordan say that. He acutally said that it is very unlikely and extremely rare that a club goes into liquidation.
@nigefal true my comment was a bit facetious. But I got annoyed at the criticism of the reading fans actions without SJ offering any alternative. The only alternative he gave was that it is likely someone will buy us. That doesn't fill any fans with hope when you have an owner that has already refused to talk to eligible buyers (of which i believe there has been at least 3) and seems more than happy to let the club liquidate (of which he has 2 examples of this on his CV)
No Simon was telling how it works. It's a Limited company, which means anyone can own it with the correct bid and will do as they wish. Fan's are not share holders, but can apply pressure. I do not agree with what what these money laundering owners are doing at all, but Simon just states facts.
@@bensolo2000 No we weren't. The red flags were going off left right and centre. We knew we had breached FFP in one summer. Plenty of questions were asked. Don't lump us in with the plastic glory hunters of the PL. Spending big was not the Reading way. And he didn't spend all that money on players anyway. Of all that 260 mill he probably only spent about 30 mill. The rest is debt piled on the club by selling our assets to himself and his company charging us a fortune to use his stadium.....as well as paying stupid salary money to players like Liam Moore who we wanted to sell to Brighton for 15mill and Dai decided he wanted to keep and pay 35k a week. Noone wanted to spend this money.
@@bensolo2000Count the original owner in with that. When you’ve spent the majority of your history in the 3rd tier that’s your level. Someone throwing money about does nothing other than getting you accustomed to more of the same.
When Dai Yongge had Ron Gorlay running the club not one fan was happy at mediocre players being signed on crazy salaries. The only persons happy were Kia Joorabchian and his accountant.
Simon's logic is stupid anyway. "It's all very well complaining that I've broken your neck, but you weren't complaining when I was giving you a massage earlier." I don't know how he gets away with his absolute BS.
If Fred West owned a football club, Simon would defend him.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
local patio laying firm would be the club sponsor.
Classic Simon. Blaming the fans. I wonder if the Reading owner had criticised him personally as a tool if he'd find that he was unbelievably more at fault.
Simon doesn't have a clue. He hasn't run out of money. He doesn't want to spend anymore. He spent the money poorly, and now won't do what he legally should.
Typical Simon. Player acts badly-oh horror, punish him. Bosses destroy a football club-well, what can you do, there's nothing in the rules...
Massive ding fan my whole life, i’m heartbroken at the destruction of my club over a long period of time. How can someone who’s dissolved 2 clubs be deemed fit and proper to own us? Words fail me and for the EFL, you should be doing something and NOW. We are desperate. Horrible thing is that man could not care one bit.
Cheers
Too late to do anything. Legally impossible.
However you are spot on about being deemed fit and proper. Those mechanisms are supposed to be used to avoid the situation you're in now. And if the dissolving of 2 clubs prior doesn't raise alarms, what does?
This is where 2 birds can be killed with One stone. I think FFP is a farce and a tool of protectionism.
I think anyone should be able to buy a club and then spend what they want. However I would advocate for a system where when a club is brought, between 50% and 100% of the purchase price is matched and put into "kitty" by the owner and custodied by the league. All transfer expenditure for 3 years should be done the same with.
After 5 - 10 years, those funds can be returned to the owner. Before that, should the club gey into difficulties those funds can be used to bail it out or even buy out (as the owner would lose them anyway).
This would ensure only serious owners, and owners that can genuinely afford to run the club and absorb possible losses would involve themselves. It would allow new owners to spend to compete with the big boys if they so wish but to do so at their own risk and not ay the risk of their own club. Oh and NO leveraged buyouts of football clubs!
Retrospectively this would be all too late for Reading but it's surely a better way to do things than whatever the f**k we have now.
You're going down.
Fans have a fundamental right to protest. Fans put their heart and soul every fibre and emotion to their football club.
Do you say the same about those nuggets climbing on top of trains, or stopping traffic?
@@herrzyklon zzzzzzz
@@MrPhilysis1 oh dear u muppet have I upset u 😂😂😂❤️
@@MrPhilysis1 btw learn to spell😂😂😂😂
@@teamblitz1990 do you not see how they're equivalent, or have you just been silenced?
That 2017 play off final penalty shootout was a real sliding doors moment
Go on Reading, Wycombe season ticket holder here and I fully support the protest. I'd be devastated to see my club in the position yours is in and I think you guys have been left no other choice. I hope the EFL see sense and sort it out for you.
Well done reading fans
I don’t agree with protests forcing games to be abandoned, but, I also don’t agree with owners being allowed to destroy a club.
then fans crowdfund and buy it
Loving all the adverts 🎉
Strange bloke Simon is.
So’s the bloke who called up and sounded like he was on the verge of tears cos his football team isn’t doing very well 😂😂🤡
@@lolitapitpong3826 alright mate, don’t cry.
Wasn't much of a CLASH was it
They cut most of it cause Simon looked bad
@@AiryedSomething they no doubt find themselves doing regularly whenever there's a discussion about owners and fans
Nah, no Police and thieves were harmed .
im a birmingham fan.....i sympathise for you
True words spoken
I’m a Villa fan and defo donn’t sympathise with you … UTV SOTC
Port vale should be awarded 3 points for this game and for it not to be replayed because of the stupidity of the reading fans.
The league would've done their due diligence when the owner bought the club.
I don't think reading fans are worried about giving port Vale the points
Well done Reading, He should never have been an owner
Feel for the fans but ultimately all going on the pitch does is make things worse. Fans always fall back to "well what can we do then.. nothing?". Sometimes doing nothing is the hardest thing to do. The only constructive thing is buying the club, lobbying buyers or starting/heading a consortium - which lets be honest is much harder than running on the pitch or chucking a tennis ball.
Simon always backs the owners and boards of clubs even when their mismanagement causes a 10 point deduction like it has in my club. He's elitist!
Proper cowardly of Talksport to shut down the live chat on White and Jordan.
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They have started to remove comments that criticise them a bit too much aswell
MAXIMUM ENGAGEMENT unless it's mean comments
@@ryanflood635TRANSLATION… They remove the idiots.
@@adammohamed..Hilarious. I bet your 9 year old wife loves your sense of humor Mr. Mohamed.
Desperate times call for desperate measures. You can't glorify the passion of the game then whine when fans take matters into their own hands.
The height of irony is asking Simon Jordan what they do. He used to own Crystal Palace you know 😅😅
Thats just dollars for donuts...
Who gives a f... what present or former chairmen/owners think? The real owners of the game are the fans without whom the game would not exist as a spectator sport. Its about time to increase respect for fans by the 1000% we deserve. Fans Before Owners every day of the week. UTV
Lmao Simon basically saying you can’t do anything just take your medicine
Simon was having flashbacks to his calamitous ownership of Palace. 😄
Fair play to Reading fc supporters, I would go on the pitch if that was my team. Wonder what Jordan say if this was Palace ?
Well Jordan nearly bankrupted Palace so he has an affinity with diabolical football club owners.
Readihg FC is in a worse situation than it found itself in 1982 when Robert Maxwell tried to amalgamate with Oxford. The club is being killed by money merchants the like of which Simon Jordan regularly dines.....
Jordan the shop steward of the football club owners union.
Closed doors for remaining home games .
Jim in one video will cry "Why can't the EFL do something!?" and in the next video will cry "Why don't the Premier League let owners spend what they want!?"
You're answering your own question Jim.
Jims main job is to stop Simon getting the show cancelled😅
@@jtmmmm27True story. 😂
I like Simon but I don’t agree with him on this ,what else can the fans do apart from protest ,
The PL/EFL need to nip this in the bud, I can guarentee with the amount of support for the protest it will happen again at other clubs...
No 'CLASH' here except reasoned debate.
Well in EPR
Moral of the story is don't get promoted into Premiership
We didn't have these problems when we were in the prem. In fact we made a profit the year before Dai took over, I believe.
Leyton Orient is the Gold Star in Survival ! just read up about it 😎😎
And yet the PL are targeting clubs in this league stopping clubs that are well backed from spending to make them bigger and better
Simon knows the ups and downs. Reading will get through this. They are a solid team with a dodgy owner, and as we all know there are many clubs heading down the same path unfortunately.
The difference is that a whistleblower from inside the club revealed that it is the owner's intention to asset strip and liquidate. The same person also revealed players were being offered for sale with the knowledge of the manager or director of football - and that part has happened. Yes, if someone makes a large bid for the club, he'd sell, but he's already put the ground and training ground into the ownership of separate companies.
What’s with all the adverts now? Seems more then ever, unsubscribing!!
I would like to see the Port Vale fans on the pitch with the Reading fans.
They did
They joined in the chanting
Is right the PV love it
I didn’t mean to be disrespectful to the pv fans I was just answering the question from talk sport x
Tell that to the Wigan Athletic fans who endured a smattering of Reading and Port Vale (who decided to show up solidarity and pad the numbers out) fans who, whilst the club were remembering their friends and family who had passed away, decided that would be the time to mock everyone.
Fans have so much power than they realise, but rarely utilise it.
How about no one goes to the game, how about exposing the EFL more, how about protesting every game so no games are played. Force action, don't just hope for it.
By no means a swipe at Reading fans, all the best and well done
The Vale fans were clapping us for invading the pitch. Got Wigan next and Derby next home game. I think its getting to a point with all this where every fanbase can understand the other because they've been through something similar. Money is slowly killing football, as well as other sports too
Derby fans will be fully behind you we've been there got the t shirt came a hairs breath of going out of business best of luck reading for the rest of the season 👍
Paul has had a shocker there
Man United fans need to take note.
oh you mean like when they got a game cancelled a few years prior to reading doing it?
@@matthewm3869 v liverpool they actually broke into stadium and protest on the pitch and getting abandonded they were not deducted points or played behind closed doors
I like Simon but this is poor from him with his owners hat on and didn't he take palace into administration
Correct me if in wrong here. Is this not the owner who got the hump with his fans talking shite about him all the time and making death threats to his family? And as a result is simply punishing them by stripping the club of assets.
So the fans brought this on themselves?
Yes, you are wrong.
love that beautiful trophy, reinstate it as the true championship trophy and get rid of that awful piece of 90's junk we have today
Abandoned ship ! Like sir John
well if this guy had previous form on at least 2 occaisions how the hell have the FA allowed him to own a club in the UK? How did he pass the fit for purpose test?
was not the case when he purchased Reading. I can't find much online about the whining sheep Reading fans bleating when he has just brought the club or was spending fortunes on players
He failed the fit and proper person test for a lower league club just before he was allowed to buy reading. Makes no sense. Utter madness.
@@LordHighness wrong
@@awgroom There was plenty of talk about how on earth we could afford these players, and a lot about the quality of the players we were signing - based on the fact that they all seemed to be on the books of one agent Dai, for some unknown reason, trusted. Plenty of anger about how he was gutting the club from within to bring in his own staff, forcing out people who'd been there for years. Like all these things though, you never hear about problem at clubs until it gets to a very bad state.
CLASHES
HEATED
BLASTED
Gonna happen at sunderland, loads rumours that ross stewart 10m quid transfer money used to pay bills instead of player investment, if fans turn on kld , he'll run,good luck, mick
Aldershot v Reading september 24 lge Div 2
I don't know the ins and outs of Dai Yongge ownership of Reading but after having a brief read of what it says on his Wikipedia article he has apparently invested over £200 million of his own money into the club which whether anyone likes it or not is no small sum of money.
But aside from that all I could garner was that his time as being the clubs majority shareholder has actually been pretty shambolic with players going weeks if not months without being paid etc .. Which is all just rather sad if nothing else because obviously John Madejski pumped a large chunk of his personal wealth into getting them into the Premier League and put up most of the capital needed to fund the building of a brand new stadium in 1998. And to now see them in the League One relegation zone with constant threats of being completely wound up and liquidated is miserable and despairing to say the least.
People always assume Madejski bankrolled Reading way beyond their means to get to the premier league. The team that went up in 2006 didn't have any big earners or players signed for high fees. Coppell just had a very good knowledge of players he'd worked with before, and a good scouting network.
Dai could have been a great owner, but he is just utterly incompetent, making awful decisions and trusting the wrong people. He made exactly the same mistakes at his club in Belgium, spending huge sums on bad players who actually made the club worse because they were just there for the money and didn't care. He folded them when they were in the 3rd tier too.
@@RevStickleback What made me chuckle was when it was revealed a large number of players hadn't been paid in however long and Simon Jordan effectively said on another talkSPORT video,
"I don't know the clubs owner from a bar of soap but how on earth he isn't able at certain times to pay a bunch of League One players their wages on time but then simultaneously lives in a £100 million mansion right next door to Buckingham Palace does seem a bit ridiculous if not extremely laughable!!"
I think fans of all clubs need to realise owners and players don’t particularly care about them. The players are . Just employees and the owners want to run it their way and do what they want. Fans are just part of the cash machine and aesthetics. Yet we have go men cheering on kids and letting it them ruin their weekend if a result goes the wrong way.
Correct, just punters 😅
Give the masses bread and circuses! Then the people will not revolt. 🙄❤️👊👊
don't worry too much about die young, it sounds like he won't be there in the long term as owner
😅 Though I did feel sorry for that reading fan Paul Mann, the poor man.
its only a game
Jim again, is someone who just wants headlines. Why does he not come out and tell us. My answer would be why should I. Did Jim at the end challenge the Reading fans indirectly to go on the pitch at Wigan ?
Yawn. Being a contrarian is written into Simon Jordan's contract I have no doubt. Becomes tiresome after a while.
He is a contrarian but in this case he's just doing what he always does, defending another football club owner. He always always always sides with the owners. If Fred West owned a football club, Simon would defend him too.
I feel for the reading fans especially considering my club birmimgham was also owned by chinese owners and all they did was strip the club and take they the club down a dark path almost like reading portsmouth etc hope for brighter days for them
I was about to write the same thing. As a bluenose we understand their plight. KRO
No mention of the fact that this is exactly why we need FFP.
thought mike ashley was hanging round to buy
It sounds like he just wanted to buy the stadium.
Don't really get what you achieve by storming the pitch. You're best off boycotting the game(s) and not lining the owners pocket. That's where it will hurt them.
It got publicity. It put the attention of the media, most of whom wouldn't have cared in the slightest about any other protest, in the club's situation. It probably focused the EFL to push for a much harder line against Dai. A boycott would do little. Most of the money comes from season tickets, and that money is already banked, and his reaction to reduced income this season is to sack staff and cut costs. The EFL have fined him, but he has no intention to pay any fines.
@@RevStickleback some very good points made. 👍
I totally understand both sides of the argument football owner spending over 200 million pounds of his money which hasn't worked out. Reading fans have every right to be mad to protest. At the end of the day football club is in a mess. We know these rich people don't give a dam about the reading fc and the fans. Reading is the largest town in the UK so maybe the fans can try raise money to buy the football club. Alot of players will have to leave. Try bring in some youth academy players to bring down the costs.
Another failure of the Fit and Proper Persons test!!
The problem is the club is worth less than the supposed asking price. The owner has the stadium and training grounds held in different companies and now seems to be asset stripping the club by selling players and pocketing the cash, then liquidating what's left before selling the Stadium and Training Ground.
Nobody is going to buy a debt ridden football club with no assets, no home and no training facilities.
The same old question remains, how on earth did this man pass the fit & proper persons test ? With a history of doing the same thing to other clubs, the book stops with EFL for allowing this man to buy the club.
Simon should put his money where his mouth if he is loaded , if he is a fantastic owner then try and save this club
I agree with Simon a lot but his bias against fans is pretty obvious. Maybe it’s just the sad reality of football
these days but it’s become a toxic money grabbing venture where fans are ignored in so many aspects of the sport. Sometimes I regard it more as an commercial entertainment show rather than a sport anymore.
Let the fans run the club.
It never works I'm afraid
Exeter City
Well Simon was wrong because the efl has stepped in! And now he has to sell or put money in.
Exactly. Simon is often wrong in fact but weirdly he has an army of admirers on here who seem to think every single thing he says is true.
this aged well considering that the EFL have actually stepped in now and are threatening him
Not enough though. 50 grand is nothing to him
@@speedwayfanlad3860 Still proves Simon and his BS wrong though. He said in this video the EFL couldn't do anything but clearly they can, they're just not doing enough yet.
Simon normally spot on, however EFL approved t
he owner. They have to responsibility they have thr automy to apply point deductions and should be able to remove DL mandate to run the club, otherwise what is the pointb of the fit and proper persons test. Goingnon the pitch was correct, talksport would be talking about it otherwise.
Football has an ownership problem.
Simon is not normally spot on, he talks absolute shite on a regular basis.
is right reading
Oh let's all feel sorry for a terrible owner who's made terrible decisions and is about to loose some money. Typical of Simon to pity the owner.
I tend to agree with Simon everything else is who can I blame.. Supporters in some clubs in Germany are part owners and the laws are there to protect these clubs. EFL are not to blame, it is basically the owners fault as he has NO money and may not want to sell for the amount Reading is worth.
Of course the EFL are to blame for Reading's demise as well as the owner himself - it's them who have a poorly functioning owners test that has continuously let dodgy owners take over football clubs
The EFL are to blame, this owner failed the fit and proper persons test with a lower league club shortly before bizarrely then being allowed to buy Reading. They already suspected he was not capable, yet they let it go ahead. How is it not their fault?
Cammon Reading 🔥🔥♥️♥️♥️
The owner sounds like a typical mafia boss. Thats what they do. Strip it and take everything.
At what point are people going to pronounce his name correctly? Die - Yong (as in Pong) - Ger (as in Gertrude). “Die Young” FFS 🤣
SJ is correct with Xia and my club Villa. We. Were. In. The. 💩
Ken Bates job? Buy it for a £1, wiping all the debts
Jim "i agree with everything simon says" white.
Of course he does - he just changes sides to say whatever is most controversial. It’s old now.
Lets get it right lol the fans see it as a club and theyre club....but it is a buisness first
Fans choose to put theyre heart soul and time into a club as a FAN......now as an OWNER of the club i want my buisness to make money....its not rocket science just some fans dont understand or forget its a buisness first
But this is a bizzare one with reading...owner seems to be devaluing his own buisness
Simon Jordan defending the EFL who allowed this man to takeover the club after he was rejected by the PL to buy hull only months before. Just the same old with Simon Jordan just blame the fans
Rabbit pie.
Simon showing his bitterness as a failed owner again
Sorry Simon, your talking b*llocks..When the owner started throwing money on players, we all knew we were in trouble with FFP. We didnt want Puscas/Joao/Meite with the crazy salaries. Its never been the Reading way. You seem to lump us in with the top clubs whose fans just moan about throwing money on players. We arnt like that.
He could've chosen to not be a dick.
Some clown with an energy drink lmfao
It's only a game of football. Think some of these fans have some unresolved issues they project into supporting a tribe. It's a bit sad watching grown men so emotional.
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Lmao legend
🤡
See you in division 2 😂😂
Jordan is such a pompous prat. He has zero empathy and his attitude shows why he failed at Palace
100%
I expected nothing less from that snob Simon Jordan
The Reading fan handled this absolutely immaculately
Simon Jordan gimpy as usual. Typically only ever supports a protest that doesn’t cause any disruption whatsoever, nothing is ever achieved without the people exhibiting the power they have
Simon loves authority. He's a bootlicker.
What Reading supports have said to other clubs in same situation is called karma now, remember Pay Up Pompey and £20 notes so no sympathy from me, Spot on Simon