The VA C&P examiner did this facial recognition test doing my PTSD exam in 2017. In myhealthyvet she opined that I was malingering and I was denied service connection. I was furious to say the least. I requested a re-exam with an outside company. The VA sent me to a QTC psychiatrist a month later. At the QTC facility there was no facial recognition test. 3 weeks later I was granted service connection at 100%
Michael Fisher, were you able to sit still through the whole c&p?? I have a QTC c&p July 11 and fear I won't be able to sit still in the office. Did they just ask you questions at the QTC?
At my DRO hearing the VA stated things to me before the recording was turned on. The most bothersome thing was he made it clear to me and my wife that all Veterans lie. I stated , so before we even get started you are calling me a liar ?. The DRO laughed. I have started keeping audio notes on all conversations with the VA... Yes I audio record and make sure to ask VA employees to identify themselves. I refer back to them in statements regarding my case.
After reading comments, I think it should be assessed that audio recordings of exams are essential documentation. Do a blind recording, then after the exam drop the "oh by the way, I recorded this for my own records".
Great video and thanks for ALERTING veterans to these SICK tricks they may try...glad I had a GREAT examiner and things went well and I got my 100 %....GOD'S GRACE..😉🙏👏👏👏✌
I was told that the more some outside VA *(contracted)* Doctors get veterans turned down for benefits (failed C/P) exams , the more business the VA sends them. I'm glad that I'm a 100% P/T now, because I went through pure hell getting it.
I had one of those contracted examiners bold face lie in their notes, which I obtained copies of later. I was there for a painful scar, of course I told the truth and said that it was painful and itchy, etc.. In the notes the doctor had written that the scar is not painful the veteran reported. Such a lie, made me so upset. I got denied but won it on appeal a year or so later. It's crazy that these people put veterans through all of this just for trying to obtain a benefit that we rightfully earned.
I was denied 3 times for my back by the same female dr. another dr finally told me in her notes I had regular range of motion. I was so freaking pissed. I can hardly walk , she put that I could put my knee all the way up to my chin. Lies all of it now I have appointment at a another place with another dr in Aug I hope it goes well.
I have VA Doctors and Nurses lie all the time in my notes saying that I walked and jumped on to the examination table when it never happened. I am wheelchair bound and don't walk. But they lie lie lie. They even changed my EMG test to say mild nerve damage when they couldn't get a signal through, meaning that it is severely damaged. It's so frustrating dealing with these criminals
I had a qtc examiner give me a paper to check boxes on it, and when I didn’t understand what the boxes meant because they seemed to have a wide range of meaning I asked her what they meant and all she told me was check what you think is best for you. Then two days later the VA made there decision on my PTSD re-evaluation and said that they where going to reduce me and there reasoning was the boxes I didn’t check that I didn’t know what they meant. Now for the last year I bee. Fighting with the VA about my rating when the doctor I see weekly for the past 5 years recommended I be considered 100 permanent and total rating. The VA takes information from their evaluator that knows nothing about me over that of my doctor.
👀 Sounds like the examiner was trying to give you the hook up and it turned bad. Kind of her fault really if she wanted to help she should have just done it herself.
@@MISTAKEWASMADE4live yeah maybe, but how was I suppose to know what it all meant. She should of just filled out the paperwork her self and I wouldn’t be dealing with all this. I didn’t know it was going to be something like a test I needed to study for. And I screwed my self by filling out something I didn’t know how to fill out.
This is happening to me right now. I have had multiple things listed in my claim and the VA in Indianapolis is only willing to examine Tinnitus and PTSD. They are also having me do the examination at a private doctors office and they sent me a letter in the mail saying that I lack sufficient evidence supporting I have PTSD when I've been diagnosed with it but they're going to send me to this private doctor for the C&P exam most likely to kick me under the rug and tell me I am somehow lying about PTSD. The people that work at the VA in Indianapolis are corrupt disgusting people who should not be allowed to practice medicine.
I have used the VA for 33 years now, and it has only lowered my quality of life, I live in a world of constant pain and discomfort and have to be self-employed because of my disabilities and the VA doesn't care one dam bit. (Band aide medical care at best)
All contact with these mental health providers begin with "How are you doing?" While this appears on the surface 'casual', don't fall for it. They know the common response will be "Fine". They are recording this. How can they justify rating you at 100% PTSD if you always say "I'm fine"? They cannot, and will not.
Very true. Our opinion is that the examination has begun the moment you step inside the medical facility. If you don't feel like doing small talk, don't, and explain why.
The VA doctors always say how I am dressed nice and hair neatly brushed. Like so what, I have my wife dress me and brushes my hair because I can't. But they don't put that into their records. A bunch of liers and make up stuff to discredit the veteran
I had my PTSD Exam yesterday. Have no idea how it went. Two hours. Can't prove my classified stressor. Wait to see the decision letter in a couple months.
I had an examiner only ask me about my childhood, and then within the last three minutes of the exam she asked me about my experience in the army, and then she told me of you have-improved 😮goodbye
100 percent IU P and T. They low balled me at 50 percent because my ptsd for sexual assault is static. My lawyer tore them apart and the judge gave me 100 percent IU and I got SSDI too. 66K a year tax free. Took five years to go from 50 percent to 100 percent IU P and T. SSDi was approved within the first five months.
Just had my c&p a couple weeks ago at VES Dr, took 2+ hour for mental health exam. No pictures of faces or anything though but it was only for anxiety/ptsd.
@@1One_step_at_a_time - I felt like I was being interrogated by a guy who was trying to see if he could get a reaction out of me. And the topic was that of my most traumatic life experiences. I feel like I barely held it together and I had a complete breakdown by the time I got out to the parking lot. I had to have my wife come get me and drive me home. The only good thing that I can say about it is that it’s over. I would have rather been stripped naked and beaten. I have had that done before so I can honestly say that I would have rather had the beating.
They should be required to video the Exams. This ensures that all questions on the DBQ are answered by the veteran and provides transparency on both sides.
That is crazy! I had a doctor try to do this during my back C&P exam Oct 2022. It made no sense and my issue was opposite of what he was trying to say should have been the case. So sad they try to do these things to Vets who are struggling and just trying to receive their benefits.
I remember I had a physical the Doctor ask me how do I feel I sad ok . He contacts the VA they drop me in ratings . I’ll never fall for that again . Today I’m 80% with IU permanent and Total had a brain injury. One Doctor ask me what problems I’m I having I told him I’m having dizzy spells and forgetting my way home at times . He wrote the VA I was malingering . So my psychologist sent me to have some test EEG showed I was having petit mal seizures so I take Nuerontion today had an ENG test to check balance Test showed very impaired soI got a rating for Vertigoand Seizure disorder but yet the previous Doctor said I was malingering she cost me like 2 years in benefits by her incompetence of being a physician. I was hit with an ax across the head suffering a skull fracture with 4 weeks of hospitalization, had to learn how to walk and talk again on my own and what got me angry was these VA jerk offs thought I was faking it . Try getting hit with an ax and tell me if you’re not going to have residuals is what I told my last CP examiner he rated me permanent and total after that statement. I fought the VA for 15 years to get my rating. When ever I go to VA Doctors I never tell them I’m fine I always tell them I’m still having problems because I remember that day when I told a Doctor I’m fine when I thought he was talking about the day than I’m reduced in rating so speak of that cause I don’t want other Vets to go through my experience
Thank you for warning other veterans and sharing this lesson with us. It's hard to comprehend the things the VA does....even with someone who was struck in the head with an axe!
I remember that happened in my c&p exam lol I was like what and said what I seen. Never thought about this lol wow. I haven't and don't plan on lying, but it does make you think like wait am I crazy? What's going on? Some vets might feel pressured like you said. Thanks for the insight
During my appeal the judge said that I was never diagnosed with patsd thankfully I had retained a lawyer for that 30% and she stated that yes I was and I was right after I got out of the military otherwise they would have claimed and pretended like I had never been diagnosed or had even though they do treat me for him but they themselves refuse to diagnose me at the VA because again then you would have to probably give benefits if you acknowledge it and can't have that can you helping veterans especially since I don't want to do the psychiatric drugs and I work for the VA for a time and I know they don't work I've seen what they do to the patients they work on and I kind of think PTSD is the lesser of the evil
I will have my first Evaluation Exam this coming Monday. I'm already rated at 60% however I have been homeless since last May. And almost 3 years ago a landlord was able to email the Judge and i wasn't and i was thrown out of my apartment for reporting black mold. I have my Primary Doctor, Vocational Rehabilitation VA Rep, Dr in Mental Health and my Commander from my American Legion Post all writing witness statements to back up my claim to get the full 100% for my PTSD. I was also hit by a car this last October from being homeless.
The first thing they are gonna ask is how are u doing? If you say good it’s gonna go down hill from there. They act like one good day means there is nothing wrong with u
I just filed for TDIU with 70% PTSD already awarded twice by the VA. Now they want me to do a third C&P and I smell a huge VA RAT! Thanks for the warning, I had 2 C&P's for PTSD, one in 2016 and another in 2020, both came back with 70%. My question is why does the VA do this, I know, to save money and screw over the Veteran. I have lots of evidence for my TDIU including work outbursts for which I got a letter of counselling, a occupational assessment by a third party and forced retirement my former management lied about to make it look they no longer needed my skills when in reality they wanted to dump me because of my inability to deal with others in the workplace. I will be reaching out to Hill & Ponton after my TDIU claim is completed as I feel no matter the evidence I provide the VA will stab me in the back just as they have for many veterans and I will need to file an appeal.
I have a 100 PTSD rating. I've had it for about 12 years, and I just got a message to report for an evaluation. I thought after 10 years I was protected.
Michael Grimm How did your reevaluation turn out or are you still waiting for your appointment? What I have learned about the VA process is that one you are rated a disability percentage, make sure you continue to seeking treatments, don’t stop seeing your Physician and send messages to your Care provider and never become complacent. You should have tried to get P&T status (Permanent and total) overall they maybe looking for any improvement in your condition or if if has gotten worse. God bless
@@Pj192130 They had me set up with a tele eval, but sense I'm no longer a resident of Louisiana, they couldn't go through with it. ( lived in Thailand for 2 years). Apparently even tho it's over the internet, they cant conduct exams out of state. So I changed my mailing address online, and now I'm just waiting. 7 years ago I had an eval in Germany and she downgraded me from permanent to "likely improve with treatment", but still 100 percent. Sense then I've been on MAOis, ssris, benzos... But nothing through the VA. Different doctors in different countries. I'm hoping I'm just at the bottom of the stack, and they'll leave me alone.
I put a claim in for PTSD and got denied had no proof of PTSD in my records but had 2 different non va doctors diagnose me .Any suggestions also have sleep apnea but the doctor I was seeing wouldn't touch it
I had a doctor tell me its silly for me to be depressed because of my vitiligo. He said something like” well it’s only 5 times more likely to have depression and not 100 times. In fact he had google up and said he didn’t know much about vitiligo but that it’s common. I was truly disturbed by this
Hi Cecy, we are very sorry to hear that you had this experience. There are many reasons a person experiences depression and someone's personal reason for feeling depressed should not be discredited.
my dad has vitiligo as well, they denied it was service connected. I told him to fight it. So sorry you're going through this, I see what emotional damage vitiligo has done first-hand.
I had one just last week. I am 90% va rated. My ptsd is getting worse. I have migraines from my sleep apnea. I submitted new claim for migraines and increase for ptsd. Instantly they approved me for migraines 50%. Then. I do my c&p exam for ptsd and the doctor was busy doing other things. Playing with her dog faxing paperwork for another client trying to tell me my ptsd was not military related.Then to tell me she didn’t even look at my file. Then after she submits her paperwork the va wants to rework my exam and now send me to a c&p for my migraines. After they just rated me 50 percent. Does that sound like this doctor wrote something In my favor? I’m pissed.
Hi,I have a question.Can a lpc"Licensed Professional Counselor" write a mental health opinion for my v.a. claim on a 21-4138 and be acceptable and helpful towards my claim?
I was told by the LtCmder Navy Dr. that was checking me out that he was going to make sure I would not get even 1% because I was deserting them and was not worthy to be helped and he hopes my civilian life would be miserable to he could say...."I told you so..." and my command was so upset and wondered why I was leaving at10.5 years service?
Hi Jett, we are sorry to hear this. If you have a claim that has been denied, please feel free to give our office a call at 407-537-9000 to see if we can help. Thank you.
I just had a so called Memory test that lasted for an hour. Is this the same concern? the gal said I was just on the cutting edge. that they would like to do it again in six months. duh. I have never told them I have a memory problem. I do have diabetes and I do have PTSD at 30% diabetes and hearing aids at 10% total 50%
I had my exam last week for a tbi before we started the test she asked me my college experience when I told her a senior in college she said someone with the education you have should have no problem doing this
I received a second C&P exam for the same claim. My VSO indicated the 1st exam was quite favorable so we are both confused as to why a second exam has been requested. My VSO suggested perhaps I shouldn't go to the 2nd exam since they are already have a completed DBQ from the 1st C&P exam. Any suggestions on how to handle this? thanks
Hey there, if you haven't yet, check out our interview with a C&P exam psychologist here: th-cam.com/video/9_BdPGGp2Rg/w-d-xo.html - we do a walkthrough of what to expect for your first C&P exam!
For my sarcoidosis c&p exam my examiner was actually very belligerent at the Boston Jamaica VP hospital..I failed or was denied..but I am rated for TDIU so I don't forsee filing a claim again..it's too stressful..my only concern was a earlier effective date and also getting my sarcoidosis rating..but I only need 5 my years for my ten year rating timeline..I appreciate the info and update you provide.
How do they determine or exam you without looking over your body. All I’m doing is talking about my symptoms. I need to get my stomach checked and they just want to talk and write. I’ve been denied for several symptoms over just talking with them. Is this everyone’s experience?
I have my exam this month and I am pretty nervous because of all the stories I hear from guys who got screwed over. I got diagnosed by the VA last year but I have a C&P exam with an outside doctor I guess this month.
I have 0% for PTSD but 70% for anxiety and depression disorder (Year after I was given 5 different psych medications from the VA). Due to covid, I have virtual interview with psych DR scheduled by VES tomorrow. I don't know my chance raising my rating or losing it. But been given SCD for 17yrs.
We are sorry to hear that you are struggling with these mental conditions. If you have a claim that you would like to appeal, please feel free to give our office a call at 407-537-9000 to see if we may be able to assist. Thank you.
@@HillAndPonton Hello. Thanks for getting ba to me and sorry for late response. My attorney is working on my case mainly for TDIU and 3 CUE from many years ago. I'm at 90% SCD and SMC-k. I think he wants a bigger money so letting this idol for 3-5yrs. Going on 2nd yr now not working and SSDi got denied along with the case up there on 2nd attempt with the judge.
@@thomassankara2857 the psychologist will ask many questions about your mental health. How often are you depressed/ Have you had thoughts of suicide? Seen things or hers things that weren't really there. And you also need to show he/she Proof of your diagnosis to help support your claim for mental health. Whatever evidence you have will help your claim. For a 100% rating i remember you need to prove you can't hold employment due to mental health and have a normal social life. For me that was caused because I got antisocial personality disorder while I was in the Army and isolated from people and still do today. Basically you have to prove that the conditions you've claimed were service connected and still affect you today.
I am already diagnosed with PTSD 70% combined at 90%. This was done in the last 5 months, I filed for TDIU submitted forms 21- 8940, 21- 4192 and lay evidence. Now I have an C&P exam with LHI, they requested DBQ PTSD. I would like to know why they are going over the same crap I already did?
I have been going to mental appointments to see a mental doctor during my time in service a few times..does that count as an evidence? Not to mention I recently got prescribes a medication for better from from the VA recently..My 1st CP exam is iin 3 days!
Request copies of your C&P exam notes and all other doctors notes. You’ll be surprised what they write in your notes. Sometimes it’s not even what they discussed on a visit. Request them to correct the notes and we were told they can only amend them and add the info that was supposed to be in the notes. The doctor apologized that oh I’m sorry I used the wrong template. So that’s another reason vets are being denied I’m sure. Go to medical records at the VA and request copies of your doctor’s notes.
The exams are definitely not set up to help vets. The examiner could easily ask probing questions that would help the veterans. Instead they ask questions that DON'T help. Who knows what really goes in the report. Also, what is ment by, people with PTSD can't see these photos? Are you sure that in and of itself isn't some kind of IQ test? Because that sounds really stupid.
Make sure you document everything. If you have to record what they said and what you said as soon as you can. During an appeal you can use those notes to help you remember facts.
You may be able to write things down but legally you are not allowed to voice or video record any part of a C&P exam. If you do secretly then you will not be able to use that as evidence anywhere.
Another game the vision examiners are doing is placing a VR type headset on the veteran that measures side or peripheral vision. They set it to a default where the flashing light is coming from the same spot over and over. So they have the veteran clicking over and over and then the examiner steps out and brings another examiner in and says “oh we’re sorry we have to reset our headset”. They’re doing this in hopes you have you click at different intervals because on the first trial it’s coming from the same direction. Then when they fix it, the flashing light is coming from various degrees. Really unethical!
My last C&P exam was supposed to last 90 minutes according to the papers. I was being evaluated for 5 different disabilities. A friend that drove and I waited in the civilian MD's empty office for 30 min before been called back. My appt lasted less than 10 minutes with the evaluator. I was completely shocked when after a few questions and a measurement with the VA's F.U. instrument, I was heading out the door. The evaluation was so quick that I didn't even need to take of my jacket.
I get stressed out listening to VA tactics. I have all symptoms that I heard of or read. Yep. But Prove it, I would lose it and walk out say f off. Keep your money I don't need your grief.
I started recording ALL my VA appts after Drs were slandering my medical records, so C&P Drs better not fuck with my head anymore then it already is cause I'll be recording on my appt
I know this was a year ago..but my cp rep never spoke on anything due to my service...everything was write in front of her and I was still denied...everytime I went to board they always talk about wth I'm dreaming about and watching on tv..not what happen in the service...tricks
We are sorry that your exam did not go well. If you have a denial that you would like to appeal, please feel free to give our office a call at 407-537-9000. Thank you!
VA hospital I just got a job there, during orientation out of 23 new hires only 4 were veterans, myself included. Of course the vets were hired to do grunt work so no wonder our needs are not met.
I had my c&p ptsd last month, and went to primary VA doctor for general health yesteray. The doctor kept telling me to see psych doctor, should I do it? And his face was kind of asessing and now thinking of negative vibes about my ptsd. Primary doctor have power to change my c&p and making me go to see phsych a trap?
@@shonel01 It depends on the state. In some states you can record and present recording in court as proof if you're in the room where the conversation is happening. But, even if you don't go to court, the recordings are still useful in changing things.
What can I do if the c&p examers try calling but there number shows up as scamers and dose not send there message through and blocks the number on some phones?
Help... Q. My parents have my brothers(100%covered who ended his life) kids. But now they have to move out of their retirement community. How can they try to get a VA home loan from the father being they are caring for the survivor kids. The veterans wife abandoned them.
I keep being told all the time by how professionals at the view at least I used to when I was homeless at the VA basically they said I should lie and say that I was a drug addict and an alcoholic and I said I refused him I've never done drugs I'm not an alcoholic and I can't even get rid of these things to help with PTSD because I've never started or had these things but for people who have PTSD who have alcoholism and drug problems when they stop doing drugs and stop binging on alcohol their PTSD seems to go away and it's like well I can't do that because again I never started and I just have actual PTSD which does affect my ability to work
On my papers when they denied me they didn't say I was malinger or they said pretty much I'm trans and that's not their problem now I don't believe they're supposed to be allowed to discriminate but I still got the paperwork so of course they didn't phrase it exactly like that but even when it came to my eye condition they're like well you applied for your right eye and we checked out your left eye and you basically there's nothing wrong with your left eye so we don't know why you're making a claim for an eye condition and again I had made the claim for the other eye of course now it's it's actually healed up by itself my right eye but essentially when I left the military I had cranial nerve damage according to the hospital corpsman
my psychiatrist asked me to remember a number in the beginning of the session and then asked me to recall the number later. Is this also a trick?? what was the purpose of that?
I'm sorry, I would not be able to answer that question for you. We just try to convey information that we do know for certain in these videos. I am sorry that I am not able to give you a definitive answer for this. If you have an open claim that you would like to discuss, please feel free to call us at 386-257-2100. Thank you!
What would a veteran do if the doc tries to pull this trick? The did it to me as well as a memory test with simple words and numbers. Like that's supposed to prove anything
I have a question for you. If I have a disability rating- like hypothyroidism- and my doctor reduces or removes my medication, do I have to tell the VA about the reduction in medication? I am learning a lot from your videos
Hi Louis, I have submitted your question to hopefully be answered by Mr. Hill in one of our livestream videos. Please keep an eye out for our upcoming videos!
Oh, and if you file a complaint with any of the IG's don't post it on your Facebook page they'll quickly send you an email letting you know in no uncertain terms they like to work in secrecy - I would imagine so no one knows what your complaining about least other vets who have the same problem contact them all so. Facebook or anything considered 'public media" like uh, uh TH-cam so I expect to hear about this -no actually I expect not to hear from any of them regardless of my complaint- kinda like now. In my experience.
I'm pretty sure that QTC is a contractor. It doesn't hurt to ask but I think the VA asked them to do their examinations. You can't just show up to QTC. My initial C&P exam was at QTC and they did a really good job. The doctor was very thorough and patient. He actually hooked me up with some things I didn't even claim and frankly didn't even know I could claim. He just noticed and put it in on the spot. So for what it's worth try and get into QTC because they will do right by you in my experience.
@@marinegirl4860 wow..that was fast...lol..thanks...yes everytime I went to my cp it didn't make sense...a waste of my time..she was a narcissist..oh by the way hill and pontoon just had a live q and a..so that's why I'm in the comments..lol..
The VA C&P examiner did this facial recognition test doing my PTSD exam in 2017. In myhealthyvet she opined that I was malingering and I was denied service connection. I was furious to say the least. I requested a re-exam with an outside company. The VA sent me to a QTC psychiatrist a month later. At the QTC facility there was no facial recognition test. 3 weeks later I was granted service connection at 100%
Michael, are you 100% for PTSD?
@@samuelhargrove8095 Yes
Michael Fisher, were you able to sit still through the whole c&p?? I have a QTC c&p July 11 and fear I won't be able to sit still in the office. Did they just ask you questions at the QTC?
@@samuelhargrove8095 My QTC exam was only 20 minutes. Questions were about how I was coping at the time.
@@findyourfocus
Any advice for me to keep my 100% rating?
At my DRO hearing the VA stated things to me before the recording was turned on. The most bothersome thing was he made it clear to me and my wife that all Veterans lie. I stated , so before we even get started you are calling me a liar ?. The DRO laughed. I have started keeping audio notes on all conversations with the VA... Yes I audio record and make sure to ask VA employees to identify themselves. I refer back to them in statements regarding my case.
Thanks Coastie!
After reading comments, I think it should be assessed that audio recordings of exams are essential documentation. Do a blind recording, then after the exam drop the "oh by the way, I recorded this for my own records".
Great video and thanks for ALERTING veterans to these SICK tricks they may try...glad I had a GREAT examiner and things went well and I got my 100 %....GOD'S GRACE..😉🙏👏👏👏✌
Congratulations man
👏👍 thanks @Marcus
How often do veterans with 100 p&t ratings need to be seen at the VA?
@@treyhargrove6382 with 100% p&t, there are no more examinations.
I was told that the more some outside VA *(contracted)* Doctors get veterans turned down for benefits (failed C/P) exams , the more business the VA sends them. I'm glad that I'm a 100% P/T now, because I went through pure hell getting it.
WOW
@@ElizabethMBlackwell , yes its true...I was lucky I was rated 100% in 2017
BLESS YOU, the he’ll we go thru iS SUICIDAL
@@judithscales1329 , Thank You
I did too, it took me a decade to get 100% & then another decade to become permanent and total
I had one of those contracted examiners bold face lie in their notes, which I obtained copies of later. I was there for a painful scar, of course I told the truth and said that it was painful and itchy, etc.. In the notes the doctor had written that the scar is not painful the veteran reported. Such a lie, made me so upset. I got denied but won it on appeal a year or so later. It's crazy that these people put veterans through all of this just for trying to obtain a benefit that we rightfully earned.
I was denied 3 times for my back by the same female dr. another dr finally told me in her notes I had regular range of motion. I was so freaking pissed. I can hardly walk , she put that I could put my knee all the way up to my chin. Lies all of it now I have appointment at a another place with another dr in Aug I hope it goes well.
@@belindajohnson5079 It can be such a discouraging process. Good luck on your next exam.
I have VA Doctors and Nurses lie all the time in my notes saying that I walked and jumped on to the examination table when it never happened. I am wheelchair bound and don't walk. But they lie lie lie.
They even changed my EMG test to say mild nerve damage when they couldn't get a signal through, meaning that it is severely damaged.
It's so frustrating dealing with these criminals
I had a qtc examiner give me a paper to check boxes on it, and when I didn’t understand what the boxes meant because they seemed to have a wide range of meaning I asked her what they meant and all she told me was check what you think is best for you. Then two days later the VA made there decision on my PTSD re-evaluation and said that they where going to reduce me and there reasoning was the boxes I didn’t check that I didn’t know what they meant. Now for the last year I bee. Fighting with the VA about my rating when the doctor I see weekly for the past 5 years recommended I be considered 100 permanent and total rating. The VA takes information from their evaluator that knows nothing about me over that of my doctor.
👀 Sounds like the examiner was trying to give you the hook up and it turned bad. Kind of her fault really if she wanted to help she should have just done it herself.
@@MISTAKEWASMADE4live yeah maybe, but how was I suppose to know what it all meant. She should of just filled out the paperwork her self and I wouldn’t be dealing with all this. I didn’t know it was going to be something like a test I needed to study for. And I screwed my self by filling out something I didn’t know how to fill out.
This is happening to me right now. I have had multiple things listed in my claim and the VA in Indianapolis is only willing to examine Tinnitus and PTSD. They are also having me do the examination at a private doctors office and they sent me a letter in the mail saying that I lack sufficient evidence supporting I have PTSD when I've been diagnosed with it but they're going to send me to this private doctor for the C&P exam most likely to kick me under the rug and tell me I am somehow lying about PTSD. The people that work at the VA in Indianapolis are corrupt disgusting people who should not be allowed to practice medicine.
How’d it go??
I have used the VA for 33 years now, and it has only lowered my quality of life, I live in a world of constant pain and discomfort and have to be self-employed because of my disabilities and the VA doesn't care one dam bit. (Band aide medical care at best)
agree I told my therapist one time he was only here for a paycheck. He pretty much shrugged it off like Yep your right.
It took me 50 years to get 100% combat PTSD but i did it on my own.
Congrats on your 100%, James! Good luck to you!
All contact with these mental health providers begin with "How are you doing?" While this appears on the surface 'casual', don't fall for it. They know the common response will be "Fine". They are recording this. How can they justify rating you at 100% PTSD if you always say "I'm fine"? They cannot, and will not.
Very true. Our opinion is that the examination has begun the moment you step inside the medical facility. If you don't feel like doing small talk, don't, and explain why.
@@HillAndPonton Agreed!!
someone told me don't shower for a week look disheveled and talk to yourself when you go in. and just be weird. lol
@@belindajohnson5079 I did that and it helped lol. Not a whole week but I looked like hell.
The VA doctors always say how I am dressed nice and hair neatly brushed.
Like so what, I have my wife dress me and brushes my hair because I can't.
But they don't put that into their records. A bunch of liers and make up stuff to discredit the veteran
I had my PTSD Exam yesterday. Have no idea how it went. Two hours. Can't prove my classified stressor. Wait to see the decision letter in a couple months.
They pulled that same kind of trick questioning at my simple tinitus c&p exam.
What did they ask you?
You all make the most informative and articulate videos on this subject! Great job!
A USMC Veteran
Semper Fi
I had an examiner only ask me about my childhood, and then within the last three minutes of the exam she asked me about my experience in the army, and then she told me of you have-improved 😮goodbye
100 percent IU P and T. They low balled me at 50 percent because my ptsd for sexual assault is static. My lawyer tore them apart and the judge gave me 100 percent IU and I got SSDI too. 66K a year tax free. Took five years to go from 50 percent to 100 percent IU P and T. SSDi was approved within the first five months.
Thank you very much for your time and posting.
You guys are great I tell every vet I see in other groups about your videos and I share these with them
Just had my c&p a couple weeks ago at VES Dr, took 2+ hour for mental health exam. No pictures of faces or anything though but it was only for anxiety/ptsd.
Good luck.
@@HillAndPonton I have another c&p exam in two weeks and I have gotten worse
@@jayb490 - How did it go? I have my exam coming up and I am pretty nervous about it.
@@boxelder9167 hey how did it go?
@@1One_step_at_a_time - I felt like I was being interrogated by a guy who was trying to see if he could get a reaction out of me. And the topic was that of my most traumatic life experiences. I feel like I barely held it together and I had a complete breakdown by the time I got out to the parking lot. I had to have my wife come get me and drive me home. The only good thing that I can say about it is that it’s over. I would have rather been stripped naked and beaten. I have had that done before so I can honestly say that I would have rather had the beating.
They should be required to video the Exams. This ensures that all questions on the DBQ are answered by the veteran and provides transparency on both sides.
Social Security pulls the same stunts in their disability exams. I swear its as if the outside Doctors get a bonus for disqualifying you.
That is crazy! I had a doctor try to do this during my back C&P exam Oct 2022. It made no sense and my issue was opposite of what he was trying to say should have been the case. So sad they try to do these things to Vets who are struggling and just trying to receive their benefits.
Thank you for helping veterans
Thank you sooo much guys! Best wishes!
Two words: Private physician. If I can help it VA doctor will NEVER touch or evaluate me again. Send me my check and have a nice life.
can you request that?
Great you are talking about this. This is really bad. The VA should want to approve benefits.
I remember I had a physical the Doctor ask me how do I feel I sad ok . He contacts the VA they drop me in ratings . I’ll never fall for that again . Today I’m 80% with IU permanent and Total had a brain injury. One Doctor ask me what problems I’m I having I told him I’m having dizzy spells and forgetting my way home at times . He wrote the VA I was malingering . So my psychologist sent me to have some test EEG showed I was having petit mal seizures so I take Nuerontion today had an ENG test to check balance Test showed very impaired soI got a rating for Vertigoand Seizure disorder but yet the previous Doctor said I was malingering she cost me like 2 years in benefits by her incompetence of being a physician. I was hit with an ax across the head suffering a skull fracture with 4 weeks of hospitalization, had to learn how to walk and talk again on my own and what got me angry was these VA jerk offs thought I was faking it . Try getting hit with an ax and tell me if you’re not going to have residuals is what I told my last CP examiner he rated me permanent and total after that statement. I fought the VA for 15 years to get my rating. When ever I go to VA Doctors I never tell them I’m fine I always tell them I’m still having problems because I remember that day when I told a Doctor I’m fine when I thought he was talking about the day than I’m reduced in rating so speak of that cause I don’t want other Vets to go through my experience
Thank you for warning other veterans and sharing this lesson with us. It's hard to comprehend the things the VA does....even with someone who was struck in the head with an axe!
Why do I suddenly want to kill someone?
I only learned that this year when they ask "do you have pain" I tell them "I live in constant pain" not "I'm fine" anymore.
Your story was touching, I'm sorry you are having troubles. Thanks for sharing.
I remember that happened in my c&p exam lol I was like what and said what I seen. Never thought about this lol wow. I haven't and don't plan on lying, but it does make you think like wait am I crazy? What's going on? Some vets might feel pressured like you said. Thanks for the insight
During my appeal the judge said that I was never diagnosed with patsd thankfully I had retained a lawyer for that 30% and she stated that yes I was and I was right after I got out of the military otherwise they would have claimed and pretended like I had never been diagnosed or had even though they do treat me for him but they themselves refuse to diagnose me at the VA because again then you would have to probably give benefits if you acknowledge it and can't have that can you helping veterans especially since I don't want to do the psychiatric drugs and I work for the VA for a time and I know they don't work I've seen what they do to the patients they work on and I kind of think PTSD is the lesser of the evil
I will have my first Evaluation Exam this coming Monday. I'm already rated at 60% however I have been homeless since last May. And almost 3 years ago a landlord was able to email the Judge and i wasn't and i was thrown out of my apartment for reporting black mold. I have my Primary Doctor, Vocational Rehabilitation VA Rep, Dr in Mental Health and my Commander from my American Legion Post all writing witness statements to back up my claim to get the full 100% for my PTSD. I was also hit by a car this last October from being homeless.
The first thing they are gonna ask is how are u doing? If you say good it’s gonna go down hill from there. They act like one good day means there is nothing wrong with u
Omg I had a experience of a doc saying I can do certain things that I can’t or have a problem doing. Stand up
For yourself I did not at the time.
I just filed for TDIU with 70% PTSD already awarded twice by the VA. Now they want me to do a third C&P and I smell a huge VA RAT!
Thanks for the warning, I had 2 C&P's for PTSD, one in 2016 and another in 2020, both came back with 70%.
My question is why does the VA do this, I know, to save money and screw over the Veteran. I have lots of evidence for my TDIU including work outbursts for which I got a letter of counselling, a occupational assessment by a third party and forced retirement my former management lied about to make it look they no longer needed my skills when in reality they wanted to dump me because of my inability to deal with others in the workplace. I will be reaching out to Hill & Ponton after my TDIU claim is completed as I feel no matter the evidence I provide the VA will stab me in the back just as they have for many veterans and I will need to file an appeal.
Hey brotha just so you know the VA generally does PTSD claims reups every 3 years so you seem right on par.
I was lucky I had a good VA cp examiner
And we thank you for your service!
I have a 100 PTSD rating. I've had it for about 12 years, and I just got a message to report for an evaluation. I thought after 10 years I was protected.
Its 20
Michael Grimm
How did your reevaluation turn out or are you still waiting for your appointment? What I have learned about the VA process is that one you are rated a disability percentage, make sure you continue to seeking treatments, don’t stop seeing your Physician and send messages to your Care provider
and never become complacent. You should have tried to get P&T status (Permanent and total) overall they maybe looking for any improvement in your condition or if if has gotten worse. God bless
@@Pj192130 They had me set up with a tele eval, but sense I'm no longer a resident of Louisiana, they couldn't go through with it. ( lived in Thailand for 2 years). Apparently even tho it's over the internet, they cant conduct exams out of state. So I changed my mailing address online, and now I'm just waiting. 7 years ago I had an eval in Germany and she downgraded me from permanent to "likely improve with treatment", but still 100 percent. Sense then I've been on MAOis, ssris, benzos... But nothing through the VA. Different doctors in different countries. I'm hoping I'm just at the bottom of the stack, and they'll leave me alone.
They have to prove it after 5 years.
I put a claim in for PTSD and got denied had no proof of PTSD in my records but had 2 different non va doctors diagnose me .Any suggestions also have sleep apnea but the doctor I was seeing wouldn't touch it
Get a nexus letter from a psychologist who can give you the medical opinion that your ptsd is due to more than likely your military experience.
Probably should’ve claimed secondary
I refuse to go to QTC they have denied me with everything. I'm 80% and got all my increases through LHI
Recorders work great.
I had a doctor tell me its silly for me to be depressed because of my vitiligo. He said something like” well it’s only 5 times more likely to have depression and not 100 times. In fact he had google up and said he didn’t know much about vitiligo but that it’s common. I was truly disturbed by this
Hi Cecy, we are very sorry to hear that you had this experience. There are many reasons a person experiences depression and someone's personal reason for feeling depressed should not be discredited.
Just terrible
my dad has vitiligo as well, they denied it was service connected. I told him to fight it. So sorry you're going through this, I see what emotional damage vitiligo has done first-hand.
I had one just last week. I am 90% va rated. My ptsd is getting worse. I have migraines from my sleep apnea. I submitted new claim for migraines and increase for ptsd. Instantly they approved me for migraines 50%. Then. I do my c&p exam for ptsd and the doctor was busy doing other things. Playing with her dog faxing paperwork for another client trying to tell me my ptsd was not military related.Then to tell me she didn’t even look at my file. Then after she submits her paperwork the va wants to rework my exam and now send me to a c&p for my migraines. After they just rated me 50 percent. Does that sound like this doctor wrote something In my favor? I’m pissed.
Exactly what are they warning against with the facial recognition? 2:03
Do you only represent veterans that already have service connected rating or do you take first time claims filers?
Hi,I have a question.Can a lpc"Licensed Professional Counselor" write a mental health opinion for my v.a. claim on a 21-4138 and be acceptable and helpful towards my claim?
Excellent piece of information!
I was told by the LtCmder Navy Dr. that was checking me out that he was going to make sure I would not get even 1% because I was deserting them and was not worthy to be helped and he hopes my civilian life would be miserable to he could say...."I told you so..." and my command was so upset and wondered why I was leaving at10.5 years service?
Hi Jett, we are sorry to hear this. If you have a claim that has been denied, please feel free to give our office a call at 407-537-9000 to see if we can help. Thank you.
I just had a so called Memory test that lasted for an hour. Is this the same concern? the gal said I was just on the cutting edge. that they would like to do it again in six months. duh. I have never told them I have a memory problem. I do have diabetes and I do have PTSD at 30% diabetes and hearing aids at 10% total 50%
I had my exam last week for a tbi before we started the test she asked me my college experience when I told her a senior in college she said someone with the education you have should have no problem doing this
I received a second C&P exam for the same claim. My VSO indicated the 1st exam was quite favorable so we are both confused as to why a second exam has been requested. My VSO suggested perhaps I shouldn't go to the 2nd exam since they are already have a completed DBQ from the 1st C&P exam. Any suggestions on how to handle this? thanks
Mine is tomorrow. OMG!
Hey there, if you haven't yet, check out our interview with a C&P exam psychologist here: th-cam.com/video/9_BdPGGp2Rg/w-d-xo.html - we do a walkthrough of what to expect for your first C&P exam!
For my sarcoidosis c&p exam my examiner was actually very belligerent at the Boston Jamaica VP hospital..I failed or was denied..but I am rated for TDIU so I don't forsee filing a claim again..it's too stressful..my only concern was a earlier effective date and also getting my sarcoidosis rating..but I only need 5 my years for my ten year rating timeline..I appreciate the info and update you provide.
How do they determine or exam you without looking over your body. All I’m doing is talking about my symptoms. I need to get my stomach checked and they just want to talk and write. I’ve been denied for several symptoms over just talking with them. Is this everyone’s experience?
yep right out of the play book columbus va happen to me
I have my exam this month and I am pretty nervous because of all the stories I hear from guys who got screwed over. I got diagnosed by the VA last year but I have a C&P exam with an outside doctor I guess this month.
How did your exam go?
Your outside doctor's evaluation takes precedence over the VA's hired hacks in an Appeao, that's the only good news.
I have 0% for PTSD but 70% for anxiety and depression disorder (Year after I was given 5 different psych medications from the VA). Due to covid, I have virtual interview with psych DR scheduled by VES tomorrow. I don't know my chance raising my rating or losing it. But been given SCD for 17yrs.
We are sorry to hear that you are struggling with these mental conditions. If you have a claim that you would like to appeal, please feel free to give our office a call at 407-537-9000 to see if we may be able to assist. Thank you.
@@HillAndPonton Hello. Thanks for getting ba to me and sorry for late response. My attorney is working on my case mainly for TDIU and 3 CUE from many years ago. I'm at 90% SCD and SMC-k. I think he wants a bigger money so letting this idol for 3-5yrs. Going on 2nd yr now not working and SSDi got denied along with the case up there on 2nd attempt with the judge.
I just record all my exams because I don't trust anyone.
Thats actually a GREAT idea
Wish I did this just had my final exam yesterday for mental health
@@austinlohmann4008 how did it go for you? I have one this morning.
@@thomassankara2857 the psychologist will ask many questions about your mental health. How often are you depressed/ Have you had thoughts of suicide? Seen things or hers things that weren't really there. And you also need to show he/she Proof of your diagnosis to help support your claim for mental health. Whatever evidence you have will help your claim. For a 100% rating i remember you need to prove you can't hold employment due to mental health and have a normal social life. For me that was caused because I got antisocial personality disorder while I was in the Army and isolated from people and still do today. Basically you have to prove that the conditions you've claimed were service connected and still affect you today.
I am already diagnosed with PTSD 70% combined at 90%. This was done in the last 5 months, I filed for TDIU submitted forms 21- 8940, 21- 4192 and lay evidence. Now I have an C&P exam with LHI, they requested DBQ PTSD. I would like to know why they are going over the same crap I already did?
How did your C&p go and what was the outcome?
@@gilbertruiz6425 The C&P was fine, I was denied across the board. So I lawyered up! And now, I'm at 100%.
I have been going to mental appointments to see a mental doctor during my time in service a few times..does that count as an evidence? Not to mention I recently got prescribes a medication for better from from the VA recently..My 1st CP exam is iin 3 days!
@@lioneltorres2656 Any evidence is better than nothing. I am at 100% now...
Thank you...
Request copies of your C&P exam notes and all other doctors notes. You’ll be surprised what they write in your notes. Sometimes it’s not even what they discussed on a visit. Request them to correct the notes and we were told they can only amend them and add the info that was supposed to be in the notes. The doctor apologized that oh I’m sorry I used the wrong template. So that’s another reason vets are being denied I’m sure. Go to medical records at the VA and request copies of your doctor’s notes.
Great information thank you!
The examiners that are providing this false and misleading information should be reported to their states' medical board
Is stage 3 kidney disease a presumptive under pact act or does it have to be cancer
The exams are definitely not set up to help vets. The examiner could easily ask probing questions that would help the veterans. Instead they ask questions that DON'T help. Who knows what really goes in the report. Also, what is ment by, people with PTSD can't see these photos? Are you sure that in and of itself isn't some kind of IQ test? Because that sounds really stupid.
I missed my c and p appointment d/t issues caused by the disability I'm trying to claim. What happens if I miss my appointment?
Make sure you document everything. If you have to record what they said and what you said as soon as you can. During an appeal you can use those notes to help you remember facts.
You may be able to write things down but legally you are not allowed to voice or video record any part of a C&P exam. If you do secretly then you will not be able to use that as evidence anywhere.
What does it mean to be service connected for treatment purposes only?
Another game the vision examiners are doing is placing a VR type headset on the veteran that measures side or peripheral vision. They set it to a default where the flashing light is coming from the same spot over and over. So they have the veteran clicking over and over and then the examiner steps out and brings another examiner in and says “oh we’re sorry we have to reset our headset”. They’re doing this in hopes you have you click at different intervals because on the first trial it’s coming from the same direction. Then when they fix it, the flashing light is coming from various degrees. Really unethical!
My last C&P exam was supposed to last 90 minutes according to the papers. I was being evaluated for 5 different disabilities. A friend that drove and I waited in the civilian MD's empty office for 30 min before been called back. My appt lasted less than 10 minutes with the evaluator. I was completely shocked when after a few questions and a measurement with the VA's F.U. instrument, I was heading out the door. The evaluation was so quick that I didn't even need to take of my jacket.
You might report this to the VA that it wasn't their examination you worried about the possible results even before you get them
Thanks for the tip
I get stressed out listening to VA tactics. I have all symptoms that I heard of or read. Yep. But Prove it, I would lose it and walk out say f off. Keep your money I don't need your grief.
Are C&P examiners legally allowed to do this?
Is there a rule that a veteran can audio record the C&P exam?
I had one came in with my emotional support dog and my wife...only got 30% bullshit....I need help
I started recording ALL my VA appts after Drs were slandering my medical records, so C&P Drs better not fuck with my head anymore then it already is cause I'll be recording on my appt
I know this was a year ago..but my cp rep never spoke on anything due to my service...everything was write in front of her and I was still denied...everytime I went to board they always talk about wth I'm dreaming about and watching on tv..not what happen in the service...tricks
We are sorry that your exam did not go well. If you have a denial that you would like to appeal, please feel free to give our office a call at 407-537-9000. Thank you!
@@HillAndPonton we'll need a whole day schedule block..thankyou
I have my exam tomorrow. I am very anxious.
We wish you the best in your exam. I have linked another video here that you may find helpful www.hillandponton.com/video-blog-va-cp-exams-explained/
VA hospital I just got a job there, during orientation out of 23 new hires only 4 were veterans, myself included. Of course the vets were hired to do grunt work so no wonder our needs are not met.
I had my c&p ptsd last month, and went to primary VA doctor for general health yesteray. The doctor kept telling me to see psych doctor, should I do it?
And his face was kind of asessing and now thinking of negative vibes about my ptsd. Primary doctor have power to change my c&p and making me go to see phsych a trap?
Record the conversation, there's your proof.
Legally you can only record the conversation if they agree.
@@shonel01 It depends on the state. In some states you can record and present recording in court as proof if you're in the room where the conversation is happening. But, even if you don't go to court, the recordings are still useful in changing things.
Yes!
@@shonel01 depends on the state most are one party consent . And if you record a wrong much won’t happen
“I’m traumatized, not a sociopath”
What can I do if the c&p examers try calling but there number shows up as scamers and dose not send there message through and blocks the number on some phones?
Help...
Q. My parents have my brothers(100%covered who ended his life) kids. But now they have to move out of their retirement community. How can they try to get a VA home loan from the father being they are caring for the survivor kids. The veterans wife abandoned them.
Any advice on virtual C&P Exam?
I have never heard about that at all.
Does it help your case if your shrink doctor
Is a actual VA doctor. Verses a shrink outside the VA
I had one of those exams which was bs
I keep being told all the time by how professionals at the view at least I used to when I was homeless at the VA basically they said I should lie and say that I was a drug addict and an alcoholic and I said I refused him I've never done drugs I'm not an alcoholic and I can't even get rid of these things to help with PTSD because I've never started or had these things but for people who have PTSD who have alcoholism and drug problems when they stop doing drugs and stop binging on alcohol their PTSD seems to go away and it's like well I can't do that because again I never started and I just have actual PTSD which does affect my ability to work
On my papers when they denied me they didn't say I was malinger or they said pretty much I'm trans and that's not their problem now I don't believe they're supposed to be allowed to discriminate but I still got the paperwork so of course they didn't phrase it exactly like that but even when it came to my eye condition they're like well you applied for your right eye and we checked out your left eye and you basically there's nothing wrong with your left eye so we don't know why you're making a claim for an eye condition and again I had made the claim for the other eye of course now it's it's actually healed up by itself my right eye but essentially when I left the military I had cranial nerve damage according to the hospital corpsman
my psychiatrist asked me to remember a number in the beginning of the session and then asked me to recall the number later. Is this also a trick?? what was the purpose of that?
I'm sorry, I would not be able to answer that question for you. We just try to convey information that we do know for certain in these videos. I am sorry that I am not able to give you a definitive answer for this. If you have an open claim that you would like to discuss, please feel free to call us at 386-257-2100. Thank you!
Mind games when going in to evaluate our mental health.
What would a veteran do if the doc tries to pull this trick? The did it to me as well as a memory test with simple words and numbers. Like that's supposed to prove anything
I have a question for you. If I have a disability rating- like hypothyroidism- and my doctor reduces or removes my medication, do I have to tell the VA about the reduction in medication? I am learning a lot from your videos
This happened to me..pissed me off. So sad..
I go in Wednesday and nervous as hell. Heater talking about my issues
Good luck!
@@HillAndPonton I was diagnosed with PTSD by the VA Drs and received medications would that assist me in a C&P Exam
how would i go about requesting one of these tests
I find this confusing. I do not read expressions well due to tbi
Thank you for this information!☺
What's the title or name of the "facial recognition test" mentioned? Thank you!
Hi Louis, I have submitted your question to hopefully be answered by Mr. Hill in one of our livestream videos. Please keep an eye out for our upcoming videos!
It almost sounds like a test for like autism and how they have problems understanding nonverbal facial expressions( verbal clues) but I don't know
Oh, and if you file a complaint with any of the IG's don't post it on your Facebook page they'll quickly send you an email letting you know in no uncertain terms they like to work in secrecy - I would imagine so no one knows what your complaining about least other vets who have the same problem contact them all so. Facebook or anything considered 'public media" like uh, uh TH-cam so I expect to hear about this -no actually I expect not to hear from any of them regardless of my complaint- kinda like now. In my experience.
My son is in jail. He has an upcoming appointment on 6/1/2021. He's already 90 percent disabled. If he missed his appointment, what will happen?
Hi Nicki, this is a good question. I'll see if we can get our C&P Exam experts to answer this in a future video.
I cant believe our government would do something like this.....
j/k , I believe it
Took 3 Denied benfits
so should I go to a QTC instead of the c and p exam?
They Fuck up to
I'm pretty sure that QTC is a contractor. It doesn't hurt to ask but I think the VA asked them to do their examinations. You can't just show up to QTC.
My initial C&P exam was at QTC and they did a really good job. The doctor was very thorough and patient. He actually hooked me up with some things I didn't even claim and frankly didn't even know I could claim. He just noticed and put it in on the spot. So for what it's worth try and get into QTC because they will do right by you in my experience.
I should also add that my experience is subjective. I think I just got a really good doctor but that does speak well of the organization.
Not recognizing smiles or frowns is NOT from PTSD. It would likely be from brain damage in the amygdala region.
Are they supposed to asked about your family and before the military?
@@HillAndPonton thank you
My examiner never asked me about my service in the military at all..she more worried about what I was watching on tv...
@@tyching456yung9 what? That makes no sense.
@@marinegirl4860 wow..that was fast...lol..thanks...yes everytime I went to my cp it didn't make sense...a waste of my time..she was a narcissist..oh by the way hill and pontoon just had a live q and a..so that's why I'm in the comments..lol..
@@tyching456yung9 oh yeah I agree. Mine was just the same way.