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Building a High End Small 3-Way Stereo Tower Speaker - by SoundBlab
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- The design and drivers used in this speaker build project is inspired by a few manufacturers that have used similar off-the-shelf drivers in their commercial designs. Some of these commercial speakers retail in the region of US$4000 for a pair. Considering that the total cost for the drivers I am using are less than US$200, I set out to design my own set of speakers using some of these drivers. I am super happy with the outcome. These speakers are now my favourite to listen to right now, and I think they will be for some time to come!
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Some of the Parts used in this Build:
- Tang Band W5-1138SMF 4 ohm Subwoofer - (US) parts-express.... , (EU) bit.ly/3GRGyPB
- Tang Band W3-881SJ 3" Cast Frame Neodymium Driver - parts-express.... (US), bit.ly/3gWfra1 (EU)
- Dayton Audio ND25FA-4 Tweeter - (US) parts-express.... , (EU) bit.ly/3wgunqI
- 50 feet of speaker wire (14 AWG) - (US) parts-express.... , (EU) bit.ly/39erRI4
- Red and 2x Black Insulated Speaker Binding Posts - ebay.us/6YZe2M
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IMPORTANT NOTE: The Fountek FE85 driver seems to be either out of stock, or discontinued. Either way, I am working on an update for this speaker with a new driver, and will be releasing updated build plans hopefully within a couple of months from the time of posting this comment. In the meantime the current BUILD PLANS have been removed from my webshop. I apologise for the inconvenience, however these are circumstances beyond my control.
Thanks for the update,, it is really appreciated to know you are working on an update as I am near to be finished with my build where only the fountek drivers and corresponding holes are missing Let’s hope you can find a good substitute driver with minimal impact and still high performance. Crossing my fingers; It looks really great already ...
Great to know this & really impressed with how quickly you've addressed this , I have an order placed for the founteks with a uk supplier & they are saying possibly July arrival at the earliest so will keep an eye on your findings regards an alternative. I'm just at the start of my build so plenty of time to play about with an alternative
Could this be a drop in replacement? www.parts-express.com/Fountek-FR89EX-3-Neodymium-Full-Range-Driver-296-721 I would like to buy the plans anyway if that's possible.
I am reluctant to go with the Fountek drivers, since they seem to have a lot of supply problems right now, without really being able to say whether these drivers will even be available again.I have found a Tang Band driver that can work. But right now I can't comment if it will be a drop-in replacement, still in the process of testing.
@@SoundBlab Thanks for your prompt reply. I am interested in building these, so I am looking forward to your progress!
I have just finished building these and they sound incredible. I am so pleased. My first speaker project and it went great.
Great to hear, thanks for the feedback!
Really enjoy that you're explaining what you're doing in every shot
These drivers are the best for the human voice and instrumental type of music.
The quality of the cabinets you built are second to none. Absolutely brilliant
Thanks again
I think essentially this is how the manufacturers make their speakers. For many commercial reasons, the retail price price ends up being many multiples of base cost. Therefore if you have the gear, the time, knowledge, money and temperament, you can have something like these speakers for a fraction of the cost of commercial units, and much the same sound. Remember that manufacturers invest many $$ in R&D and expensive production equipment. These speakers come from a dude in his workshop, but that doesn't mean you can't end up with a hefty slice of the sound of a commercial unit. And, the big attraction is the feeling of accomplishment you get from a project like this.
I very much enjoyed this. Wish I had what is needed to make the things. They're very appealing to me for many reasons...
I made these speakers and I can attest that they sound fantastic. The project was also very fun for me as I had built furniture and boats in the past but never something like this.
Got the plans, ordered the parts, and am putting it together now! Really cool enclosure design.
How did you go?
Did you finish them?
results?
Uhoh.. the project killed him
one here who has the speakers version 2 for over an year as main speakers
dive them with a marantz pm7001
the soundstage is great an not so deep as with some jbl 830 for comparison
the voices are in front of you but no piercing to your head ,i think is because of the side woofer
the good point is that they are not create fatigue after long hours of listening
they need a sub to hit below 35 hz
wife aceptance is verry high
i`m working on the crossover to lower the cross freq. i believe that the mid driver can go lower still keeping the original crossover just in case
i am more impressed by the amount of tools you have.
remember my fathers workshop wasnt something he had overnight.
love your teaching and explanations!
Cool, thanks!
I've never seen such well though and careful build. There's so much to learn from you! Thank you for sharing ❤️
Thank you so much!
WOW, Those Small Speakers Are Really Producing Some Excellent Sound Quality With Brilliant Details.
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@@SoundBlab
Sir,
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I've been watching your channel for a number of years now and I think this is the best speaker you've designed and built.
Thanks!
I'm listening to this on my mac air speakers and man, I'm sold. I can't imagine how they would sound in real life.
They sound amazing. I just finished building my own set.
Paired with my Dayton Audio HTA100. Loving them.
@@henryrichards1556 I need to build a sound-isolated room in the basement for all my toys, otherwise the neighbors would hate me when I'm pushing like 2K watts :D.
Im so proud of this guy hes setting a good standard for speaker builds and hes South African honestly mahn more people should know about your work i make and sell speakers myself but im totally in auuw from your designs and techniques ive learnt alot that i incorporate into my own builds so thank you youre a legend and you deserve way more recognition i mean 87k subscribers but im talking about South Africans needa jump on this instead of supporting these huge manufactures whe only care about passing quality control tests and making tons of money i know builders that build from home generally try make it as affordable as possible whilst trying to get the best quality sound out of the unit i mean theres a passion to it and kinda nerdy factor that you need to achieve great speaker builds lets face it you need a certain sense of discipline to do what you do
Thanks man! Appreciate it!
Speaker design is something that has always fascinated me. I'm listening through Bluetooth and TH-cam compression, but that sounds nice and tight. Currently using a Lepy 4 channel mini Amp with 2 Pioneer 3 way 6x9's in tight stack layered enclosures, capped at around 80 hz and an Old School 10" SPL Sub in its original enclosure also Filtered at around 80 Hz and bridged over the rear channels. Not massive power but enough out here in my Workshop without annoying the Neighbours.
Thanks for sharing!
Very nice. And I like the way you addressed the price some speaker manufacturer charge, people who always bauk at the prices stating that it only cost x amount of money in parts... We'll look around almost anything you buy you could say that about... Literally just about everything!
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From a fellow speaker builder, I love the build.I go out of my way to build weird and different speakers, just because I am bored of building what's expected.I have done something similar, except with a 6 1/2 and a transmission line /folded horn type box. Height and width seem similar.It's the fun of squeezing every last ounce out of what you have built.
Thanks man! Yeah, I like to experiment with builds that are not necessarily typical, but I do try to cater for both approaches.
This particular design is very unique.
I have 4 old acoustic reasherch speakers with 8 inch side woofers on one pair and 10 inch on the other set.
These unique designed side mount woofer speakers actually out performed way way way better than the JBL floor speakers I used to have.
Not by a little, I mean blown out of the water. Those JBL speakers had dual 8 inch woofers. I love this design cause it seems to have an enormous bass frequency.
And saves space cause the are a slimmer speaker vs. The traditional front mounted design.
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Wow those are great , I can hear the air and separation from here. I think that design is incredible. That narrow front bafflle and side firing woofer design does allow the sound to wrap around the cabinet thuss making the speaker disappear.
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Cool video! I really like how clearly you documented the process. Keep up the great work :)
Thank you
Far from being a problem, a very slight dip around 2kHz is the natural behavior of the crossover point on many older high end two-way studio monitors and has thus become something of an unofficial faux semi-non-standard. This dip is actually modeled into some speaker calibration targets. For example Audyssey calls it "midrange compensation," a -3dB dip, or slightly more significant than the one you've measured here. Now of course there's no reason we need this dip in modern speakers, but if you're listening to older music, chances are there was a similar dip on the speakers used by the engineers at the time. (And purely subjectively, this is a frequency zone you'd rather err on the side of a slight dip than a slight boost, as it's the highest risk for harsh sound.)
Yes, it actually works in this speaker. It's always good when something falls into place without trying too hard.
To be honest it sounds bloody good on TH-cam never mind real life very enjoyable to watch
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Very nice build!
I recomend to make chamfer inside of the mid driver hole and if bass driver is playing so high, then there as well. This midrange is so tiny, basket will not reach much to the box, so chamfer will reduce reflections coming back to cone from hole walls.
Also, you can but that self- adhesive foam what you used to sealing on the driver baskets to reduce them ringing.
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Bought the plans and built two sets! ABSOLUTELY LOVE THEM! They sound beautifully deep, and have a directional but all encompassing soundstage that just makes you want to keep listening. Great design. If you have the tools and the know how, I can not recomend them enough!
Oh, and while I plan to get an amp with some more wattage; I am currently powering them through a JVC A-S5 that is only 30 watts a side. They sound lovely in my living room.
Hi Brad, I am so happy that you like the speakers, and well done for finishing them. Would love to see some pics? Thanks for the positive review, it helps me and others a lot to hear from someone that has actually built these. Enjoy!
@@SoundBlab sure! I’ll send some pics in the DM section.
@@SoundBlab I sent those pictures to your Instagram account. Let me know if there is a better place to send them. Thanks again for a great design. Both sets that I made sound absolutely beautiful.
Very nice sounding music examples! I'm glad I found this video. Now I'm wishing I had a small workshop and tools to build a pair these speakers. Oh well. Perhaps in the near future. Thanks for sharing, mate! Cheers!
Thanks man!
Great Video .. as someone who owns Boenicke W8se+ speakers .. i see many similarity’s in design .. and I bet these sound absolutely Gorgeous ..wonderful build guide .. my hats off to you ..
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Beautiful. very reminiscent of classic audio physic designs.
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They sound outstanding i wish i had a workshop and the knowledge like you i would be building speakers all the time
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I was hoping you listen to better music than we had to listen to during the sped up video. You did during the demo. Well done, and thanks for the video!
Thanks. We can't all like the same stuff though. I have a very wide choice in music taste, so I listen to wide selection in genres
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When you have to drill plates and boards where all the holes are the same distance from the edge it is a good trick to clamp an edge like a piece of wood where you hold the workpiece up against it to ensure the hole is the same distance all the way around. You find you can whizz around the board much faster that way as the piece can only move in 1 D and not 2.
Amazing job! I wished i would have the skills to do it by myself. I keep on dreaming as of now.
Peter
These two speaker boxes sound amazing
Thanks man!
Oh another tip if building speaker cases it’s desirable to reduce the amount of openings to the necessary. If possible install the binding posts directly in the case without plate’s or plastic binding connections. A good example is the warfdale Linton
Yeah, I have done this before in many of my previous and more current builds. However, in this case I wanted a place to mount the crossover, and thus the plate.
If these sound anything like they look, then wow!
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Nice build! Just a small tip , use piece’s of excess wood as a clamping shim when gluing. It has the advantage that you don’t eventually have clamping marks on your work piece it protects the edges and you have a better force dispersion on your gluing areas . Especially when gluing bigger areas as by veneering or to compensate the use of less clamp’s. In our workshop we say you can never have enough clamp’s ! 😉
Thanks! This happens sometimes, but often I don't bother, and have not had many occasions where the clamp made marks, but it is good for spreading the clamp force.
Wow 'Japie', Baie Mooi 'Jop' .... Sound Absolutely Fantastic .... Very Best to You and Yours from ChCh NZ
Many thanks!
This speaker is just beautiful. If it sounds half as good as it looks I’ll be happy. I just bought the build plans which are well beyond my expectations - they are exceptional. Ikea plans pale in comparison.
Thanks! Enjoy the build!
Lovely design and they seem to sound great. Also made my own floorstanding speakers. Very fun thing to do.
Thanks man!
, very professional job. Beautiful speakers.
This particular design of speaker with the side fire woofer is my favorite
Has been all my life. I have 4 large floor standing speakers with side fire 8 and 10 inch woofers made by acoustic audio that are decades old but still out perform anything I've ever had or heard for that matter.
I love the tang band woofers.
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I always like it when during a listening demo the camera is moved around the speakers. You get a good idea of the sound stage that way.
I used very linear microphones to record these, not the camera mic, so thats why the camera is stationary. This way it gives you a very good linear and consistent response of what each speaker sounds like in its position in the room.
Hi, i bought these build plans and just finished in building these fine speakers. The sound is very impressive and of a clearness i ve never heard before. I opted for a white speaker design with chalky varnish and a clear satin cover.
Thats fantastic. So glad you are enjoying them. Please send me some pics!
Hi , have found your comment just now. did you build it and what is your honest opinion? Greetings from Germany
When doing your round over cuts you should include the interior edge of the driver holes as well. That sharp edge can cause some diffraction spikes in the response.
In this case it was not possible, since I assembled and veneered the enclosure before cutting the driver holes.
Very nicely done and impressive frequency response.
Thanks!
Excellent video.
As a matter of personal taste.
I would prefer the legs in black and the back panel same as the cabinet.
Thanks. That could look good too!
I have used the same plans and the drivers but instead of MDF I have used walnut wood and it really sounds very well and clear
Cool man, send me some photos!
Wauw, didnt expect that (result). Beautiful build. Great job.
Thank you very much!
Cool Beans! I'm listening to the demo section on my Snell E.5 MKII's with rear firing tweeters and your speakers sound very nice. They seem to drop off at 36 Hz ! wow..........
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Very nicely done !!
Thank you very much!
One recommendation I have is to switch the screws that you use to square, torx, or hex bits. Something where the bit solidly seats into the head of the screw and cannot slip out. I've seen too many horror stories of people building speakers and having their screwdriver bit slip and impale their driver.
I've struggled to find those locally, so the star bit it is for now until I can find something else that works better. I always try to be rather cautious when installing the drivers. Up until now I don't think I have had a mishap yet!
I love your designs and the build process. What I really love though, is the fact that you know how to solder. It irritates the hell out of me watching others just melting solder onto a joint and they're attempting to teach others...ugh. Anyway, great video as usual !
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Nice, very detailed. Midrange a tad tinny, lacking a little warmth. I don't like muddy sound either. Overall good sound for the money but seems to need more fill between tweeter and essentially a 5" sub. I bought my first hi end system at 16 so excuse me if I seem critical. Nice job overall.
Cool, thanks!
Great work! Excellent workmanship. Nice video photography 👍👍👍
Thank you very much!
Brilliant! Good example of creativity and craftmanship. You are an inspiration.
Thank you!
Nice to see how the build goes together. Also the tools involved. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
I am an audiophile without woodworking tools. Although I do have novice abilities at woodworking I just have yet to get the tools needed so I’m forced to buy and trade vintage gear online always searching for what sounds right to me. I can’t wait until I have the ability to diy!
A pair of foldable saw horses, a circular saw, an orbital hand sander, a router, a jig saw, and a bunch of clamps, is more than what you will need to complete 90% of DIY speaker projects. All of this can be purchased from Harbor Freight tools for under $300 without a sale or coupon. You can save even more going to Yard Sales in the spring and fall.
@@conchobar thank you. In the 8 months since this comment I have bought everything you named except horses and router I count use my dremel tool as a router but it’s not the best for larger projects
Love the TV riser blocks :)
Lol, how to use cheap speakers!
Very impressive. I’d love to make those but I don’t have the equipment or more importantly the skill.
Very clever design, and very good video. Thank you very much...
Thank you too!
Great work boet! Build sounds great! Respect ✌🏻
Thanks man!
Not everyone is ready to undertake a speaker design or a kit build for themselves, and others would enjoy a kit speaker but wouldn't call it a "high end" product once it is finished, because of compromises made in materials or finish. But if they have means, they can afford to buy the $4000/pair speakers and will enjoy them and cherish them not just as a functional object but also an object of beauty, and it really isn't for anyone here to take away their enjoyment of their speakers because it is possible to build ones with a similar bill of materials for a lower cost. You also don't factor in the value of the professional designer's expertise and experience in competently designing high-performance speakers - this is a talent not everyone possesses, and it is part of what you get for $4000.
This design is not a criticism to the commercial designs. It is my very own take on using parts used by commercial designs to see what I can achieve. These commercial designs are my inspiration, I'm not trying to take away anything from them or those that choose to purchase them. I very much appreciate the expertise and experience of the professional speaker designer. And in the beginning of the video I explained why you could expect to pay $4000 for a speaker. I was hoping this would be clear from the video.
great job! that's a really oustanding product. consider selling it as a private brand, people would buy it for a reasonable price.
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Beautiful little speakers
Tx
Impressive speaker design in software to get a great response and sound stage. Props on the craftsmanship that went into these. Its mind boggling when you think that buying something like this from a "PRO" audio brand will cost into the thousands of dollars and probably sound worse...
Thanks man!
You sir are a craftsman.
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Unique design, out of the ordinary.. yet it sound cool.. great job..!
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A perfect design ....
Thanks a lot
The sound is wonderful and your frequency graph looks impressive! Great job.
Thank you kindly!
well done!! Beautifully made, congrats from Brazil!!
Thank you very much!
You done a great job! It’s looks superb and the demo sounds good. Very balanced for sure. 👍👍
Glad you like it!
SoundBlab ... if I tried to build it, will look worse than Frankenstein. How I wish can just order it.
I’ve listened to the Boenicke a lot ... W5, W8 and W11. This sounds good. Very good.
Very nice build! I understand your disclaimer, but the demo at the end sounded awesome using headphones (AT M50x's).
I'm working on something similar. The Tangband W5-1138SMF in a 9L BR cabinet, but with the Dayton RS125-8 for mids and the Dayton DC28F for highs. I already built the crossovers, first time I designed my own (using VitruixCad). I did end up using a 2nd order low-pass for the W5-1138-SMF. I'm looking forward to building the cabinets and listening.
Thanks. Cool, sounds like a nice build project. Enjoy and hope they come out great!
This is nice but Ill stick to getting assembled speakers as just getting all the tools to do this will cost more then building a speaker set. Still nice to watch you work
Thanks man!
Very nice job. Those tang ban woofers are awesome.
Great video, nice looking speakers and they sound fabulous. Nothing more to say except thanks.
Glad you like them!
Very nice design, next month i will build this speaker...
Great 👍
Lovely Job.
Thank you very much!
With presented Xover it will definitelly lack good stereo image and localization, bit messy and muddy over entire reange where speakers play to ~ -20dB. But if price tag matters, it also doesnt matter
Great video, I very much like this style of video, explaining your reasoning and step by step of what your doing on the video. Way more engaging than music through out the video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I wonder whether inverting the polarity of the ambient tweeter would improve the sound stage.
It is inverted.
@@SoundBlab Can you comment on the effect between inverted and non-inverted configurations for the rear-firing tweeter?
Never know, until you try it.
Good question
The fact is that the directivity plot and phase response of the drivers per angle per frequency are complicated, and the off-axis radiation of a driver is usually much higher in phase distortion. Additionally the sort of time delays at tweeter wavelengths across a depth of 8 inches will mean that a "true dipole" directivity plot of the array will not be what you measure. Additionally the classification of these tweeters will not be an omni/point source, or a dipole, so combining them into a viably controllable array mixing forward and rear firing drivers is unlikely.
I would be willing to bet that you could install a polarity reversing switch for the tweeter, and hear no difference one way or the other with a blindfold on - the mixture of phase / wave propagation at any given point will be a diffuse reverberating multi-path issue, and simply moving the listening point a distance of a centimeter or two will produce a completely different set of interlaced and diffuse comb filters.
I would also hazard a guess that analysing waterfall plots / convolution impulses measured from a lively listening room would reveal that the rear firing tweeter mostly adds harsh reverb and non-linearities in the high frequencies, and makes the high frequency response "notchy" and "smeared".
These sound absolutely wonderful. I would like to have heard rock music on them too. Do you sell finished speakers as well as plans?
You picked nice music content for the video. I see the link to the music site but a list of music used would be epic. The speakers --- Top notch. As stated by others I would love to hear it live.
Thanks man. I'll try to remember to add links in future.
Great build, btw it's amazing that you still have all your fingers 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks. It always looks worse on video than it is…
You're always having a good work! Nice looking finish! :)
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I njoy watching a master craftsman at work who can show ell what the is doing and explain it, too. Always interesting. This looks to me like a tuned port bass reflex. Is this true?
Thanks! Yes, it is a ported enclosure.
Well done great video
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Wow great job 👌
Thank you
Great work, very soothing to listen to and well demonstrated.
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Wow... Sounding good even through TH-cam..
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Great build as always! Very neat:)
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Superb bro superb grt never knew diy project can be this much beautifull thumbs up bro huge love and repect from lahore pakistan
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Thank you for another therapeutic build video.
Pleasure!
My heart was in my mouth watching you with that screwdriver! Haha. Lovely speaker build, I need to rewatch this on my AV system so I can hear it being tested
Glad you liked it!
Ya...i was grinding my teeth too 😥....but the end result was fantastic
Thanks for this. Nice to see such excellent work.
Thank you!
Those sound Awesome, Well done, very good looking also. Big thumbs up.
Tx
The tweeter choice for the forward-firing tweeter is confusing - yes it can work, but it seems sub-optimal to me. The Fountek driver is more than capable of handling the high frequency material present in most music, so an additional tweeter is not really needed. When you choose a tweeter to use with a driver like the Fountek, you can choose a lightweight driver like a ribbon or planar that is most comfortable operating in the extreme treble as a super-tweeter, then use a high crossover point (like ~5-6 kHz). The Dayton ND25FA-4 is a heavily-damped dome design that is more suited to working with a larger and heavier (and more HF-challenged) mid-woofer driver in a two-way speaker, where the tweeter has to play to a lower frequency. A ribbon or planar front-firing tweeter would be my preference in a design like this, although the rear-firing Dayton ND25FA-4 is appropriate because you want it to cover a wider range of treble content.
Very nice build ! i love the sound ! I
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What is the midrange crossover frekvenz? Hz up and down? How big is enclousure for midrange.
Is the side fire woofer play all the voice tones to?
I this good have woofer off axis instead on axis
Project is finished. Looks really good. Can I share my masterpeace? Not shure if the sound is my and Iooking forward for the next speaker's. Makes fun
Awesome. Look forward to see a few pics. You can email me at soundblab@gmail.com
Hi I stumbled upon this video while looking for a video that may assist me building two tower speaker, with speaker I already have, 4 -10 inch woofer 4- midrange and 4 tweeter . However I am very impressed with your speaker. I may instead try to build the one you made.
Thanks! This speaker is really good, and many that have already built it have had good things to say about it.
Very impressive, though you need quite a few woodworking tools. Really beautiful looking. Good job
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Great Job. I recently built a set of small bookshelf speakers and used some more exotic non paper backed veneer... what a hassle. I would suggest you take a look at the Titebond branded cold press glue, it was recommended to me as it should have more temperature stability with veneer.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
Nice job.Greetings from Poland.
Thank you very much!
Just bought your Build Plans for this project. Can't wait to start. Although it's very comprehensive, I would have liked to see the projected frequency response from the crossover sim and the bass response from the box and a measured frequency response. I know they are on your site, but would have loved to see them in the guide as well. For the rest; keep it up!
Hi Jasper, thanks again for the support! I will try to include these in the future. Hope your build is going well?
Hi Jasper, have found your comment just now. did you build it and what is your honest opinion? Greetings from Germany