Such a refreshing and honest take from him. Other Arsenal fans make Slots achievement in terms of first 10 games as it’s so easy, well why can’t Arteta do the same.
The narrative twist is mad 😂😂! 3 months ago, Everybody predicted Liverpool’s downfall! Klopp left, unknown manager, no DM, no signing, dead midfield, Zubimendi rejected Liverpool etc And now suddenly, Slot inherited a strong team blablabla…this same team finished 3rd last year, 6 or 7 points behind Arsenal Arsenal have strengthened its team, Liverpool didn’t ! So if Slot wins the title, in his first season, it will be an embarrassment for Arteta, 5 years in charge and €852M spent
Arsenal hasn't won a league in 20 years , never reached 90 points in that time but their fans make alot of noise , winning " transfer windows" instead of trophies...Now it's semantics , no big team moves like that
As a red, we still need to remain cautious. There's stlll the unknown factor about Slot. We need to see how he, & the players, handle the pressure in the run in... ..
Stop overdoing it. So many fans online are pessimistic and are the kind rivals lap up cause they’re doing the glass half empty thing talking bad on their own clubs.
Alot of Arsenal fans are Arteta out and are fed up with the club not raising the standards. We have delulu fans rating the summer window 8/10 while it was 4/10 at best. Gassing up a finished Sterling on loan. Not buying an adequate replacement for Saka and Odegaard. Not buying a proper striker after Sekso turned us down.
Spot on... In terms of team heritage, don't compare arteta with slot... Just compare to Klopp when he was arrived in liverpool, and see how he built the team that then he heritage the team to slot...
But you have players that had been there and won big titles together under klopps rain in the liverpool shirt. That obviously mean/ has meant alot for the stability and atmosphere that Slot has walked into at lfc.
Very good point. No pundits and even most Liverpool fans also predicted a smooth sailing for Slot. So they shouldn't be salty and keep on mentioning about inheriting world class team blah blah blah
Easy narrative to construct and follow when we haven't got much evidence in the PL era of a title challenging manager picking up where his predecessor left off. Chelsea maybe. They change manager every 1-2 years so whatever. But it is surprising and refreshing to see a knowledgeable coach come and use the tools handed to him. Not request £1Billion on transfers, drag it out for 3-4 years and whinging excuses to why it's not working.
@@jeffreyAdewaleIge You're not paying attention of what is being said, do you? If you're, you'll have understood that the point of the comment above is that people didn't this when Slot was taking over at the start of the season, instead their were laughing at Liverpool by appointing an unknown manager and that he and Liverpool will fail. Didn't all of you know that Slot was inheriting these players?
Liverpool have hit 90+ points 3 times recently. Some of the players that achieved that, while winning the league and CL plus cups, are the bedrock and leaders of this Liverpool team.
Honestly these Arsenal fans act like they have been carrying the league for 20 years! They haven’t challenged for the past decade at least. Two good, trophyless seasons and they are the guides on how to handle the pressure. They lost the league and never won it under arteta. And they’ve spent!
Klopp took over a piss poor Liverpool side in 2015 and by year 5 had two 90+ point seasons (something Arteta has yet to do once) 2 CL finals (winning 1) and won a title. The spend is also not comparable. Aside from Van Dijk and Alisson (who were acquired after selling Coutinho), Klopp’s other signings were mostly all sub £40m, with the exception of Keita. Arteta has spent what? £700m now in 5 seasons and all he has to show for it is an FA cup he ironically won with the team he inherited and a couple title “races” where one his side collapsed down the stretch. He deserves more scrutiny if anything imo.
@@gujh03 You can have a great manager and a great first choice starting 11 and 6-8 great second choice players in the rotation and .... it all can go wrong with a few key injuries. Tied for third is nothing to be ashamed of, really. This happens in football.
It's funny seeing rival fans try to completely change the narrative about Liverpool. Before the start of the season, they all said we'd struggle to get into top 4, now they're saying we SHOULD be doing well because Slot inherited a strong side from Klopp. Stop flip flopping and moving the goal posts.
Last season Arsenal were above Liverpool, then they spent a lot during the summer. Slot inherited the squad from Klopp that finished below Arsenal and practically had no reinforcement. That shows only 1 thing: Slot is so much better than Arteta who uses all types of dirty tactics and still fell 9 points behind.
They finished third. It's not like they were miles off winning klopps last season. If you remember that liverpool, were counted as favorite to win with like 10 games to go. Don't give me that nonsense tha liverpool were underdogs last season..
Facts I can assure ya all after the international break city and arsenal will still drop more points than Liverpool who are already 5 points clear and look comfortable home and away 😮
@@jeffreyAdewaleIge Are you turning the narrative to your advantage? Liverpool were 7 points away in 3rd and coming into this season, no reinforcement was done to the team where Arteta, who managed to finish 2nd last season, got in more reinforcement this season and guess what happened? The team performance did not improved and regress instead.
No. Last year Liverpool had 14 injuries and had to field academy players which is why we finished third. Arsenal had maybe 1 or 2 major injuries last year. This season, we've had injuries but not like last season. It just shows that Liverpool's squad is much stronger than Arsenal's. Arsenal can't even play without Odegard or Saka out. If Arsenal have 14 injuries, they would be in a relegation battle
A few weeks ago, many critics said Liverpool hadn’t beaten any team above them… I agree… It’s hard to do that when you are at the top of the tables in both premier league and champions league.
Liverpool just have more talents, plain and simple. Odegaard is the only Arsenal player that would get into Liverpool's best11. Saliba and Gabriel are good, but Van Dijk and Konate are at a different level this year. Trent is better that Ben White. Saka is great, but Salah is better. Liverpool have the best front 5 in the league
Arsenal and arteta just aren't as good as their fans think they are. All the ridiculous excuses they've been coming out with are just a way to avoid admitting this.
No… Konate is not a better player than Gabriel, just forget about it. Saliba is better than Van Dyk Gabriel is better than Konate. Continuing… Raya is better than Keleher White is better than Trent as a both an defender and attacker Rice is better than Gravenberch Odegaard is better than Mac Allister. The rest, I’d pick Liverpool So 6-5 to Arsenal
@@jonathancampbell9133 Then by your logic, Liverpool aren’t good enough. Why are Arsenal not good enough? Do you remember what it takes to compete with City? Do you remember why Klopp failed to beat City 7 times out of his 8 seasons? Do you understand why Klopp finished below Arteta in his final two seasons and couldn’t beat Arteta in the league in his last 4 attempts?
@@laislabonita Have you watched both teams this season so far? Clearly you have not. Rice has been very average this past 11 games, Konate and Van Dijk has been the best CB pairing this year, Alisson is the best keeper in the league and he is returning after the international break, and only a blind Arsenal fan would say Ben White has been better than Trent this season. For the record, Arsenal has conceded twice as many goals as Liverpool, even though Liverpool has been playing their backup goalkeeper
Arsenal and their excuses never end , Slot comes in 1 st year potentially wins everything and Arteta in his 5 year and same excuse same crying fan base
Lazy observation. Jumping on the bandwagon. Slot inherited a team that was probably an 8 or 9 (on a scale of title readiness out of 10), whilst Arteta inherited a team that was 0. It takes years to go from 0-10, and the season is not over.
@@tec4321-e5o non Arsenal fans seem to have all.come out the woodwork after a bad patch. Can't wait until we start winning again, then you'll be back in your hole
@@sanjayb7272well arsenal fans talk a lot of sh*t and were saying liverpool are not in the title race at the beginning of the season as if they have some divine claim to the top...you then went on to say they only played easy teams whilst you were getting spanked by Bournemouth...you'd think they are experts in winning trophies when they havent won a major trophy in over 20 years
As a non-Arsenal fan looking in, I think Arteta’s problem is his inexperience as a manager before joining Arsenal. You can see he had a great mentor in Pep but you can see he struggles at implementing his own ideas; he has shown his tactics are to play negative football when in a crisis. Arsenal don’t have the underbelly when it gets tough. When Liverpool were ravaged with injuries in the 20/21 they still finished 3rd; with Nat Phillips and Rhys Williams as a CB pairing. Klopp had to tweak his tactics without changing the core fundamentals that made them successful. These are lessons learnt from experience. Unfortunately for Arsenal fans and Arteta, he has to learn these lessons in the harshest environment possible. You mix that with the young team Arsenal have like Saka, Odegaard, Rice etc it’s tough. If you look at Salah, he struggled at Chelsea before joining Liverpool and becoming who he is.. that’s experience. Klopp at Dortmund before Liverpool? That’s experience. These are all things Arteta and squad will be experiencing now.
Good points. Klopp also proved he (and the recruiting staff) had an eye for good players that Jurgen could get great performances out of. Salah's 19 goals in Serie A before transferring over were good but not noteworthy. They got Robertson for the cost of a fancy latte. Curtis Jones came out of the youth system and blossomed into an important player last season. Slot (like Klopp) saw a player with potential in Gravenberch, and Slot unlocked that potential -- Ryan has been one of the best two players on the pitch in almost every game he has played. I could go on. Buying Rice for a truckloadof gold is no bad thing, but Arteta does not have the depth of players he trusts because he has work to do building that. That is not so much a complaint about Arteta, but pointing out he has more work to do. Also Arteta is not showing the knack for getting better performances out of his team in a second half or, like both Klopp and Slot have been able to. Experience matters.
Jordan is a commentator on talkSPORT and is a regular on AFTV, I'm surprised more people don't know who he is. Folk always brand him as 'negative', but he's one of most realistic football fans i've ever seen.
👌👌 I have not seen one humble Arsenal fan as him. He is realistic about their chances and makes total sense of Arteta. Remember, Jurgen Klopp inherited a lousy team in 2015 mid season and built a superpower in 5 years, by 2020 and by then he already won CL and PL. Where is Arteta?
2:22 The AFTV effect. You have the biggest fan channel in the world. Liverpool have RedmenTV but they took a different model where premium content is under a paywall so it never really took off. They also didn't capitalize on fan interviews life aftv did. United had only Goldbridge as a voice so that fan pressure is not as much. The way arsenal fans also treated Wenger in his final years really put aftv on the map. So the spotlight and pressure is created by arsenal fans themselves.
Finally we have an Arsenal fan that is fair and honest. Every fan watches their team with some sort of bias but this season the injury crisis (not) has been ramped up and the red cards (self-inflicted) have been used as excuses to compensate for poor performances and results by Arsenal fans.
I’m an LFC fan and it’s crazy to assume a team like Arsenal haven’t got the capacity or personnel to get back in the running when we’re not even at Christmas yet !
They're not even playing well , and to win the title in this Man city era you have to be perfect. Just ask Klopp, even Netflix FC haven't pushed Man City as Liverpool did
The only people scrutinising Arsenal is their own fans. Other fans dont really bother with them as they are not a threat to win the league. They need to make a statement to be a big club. Arsenal are not a big club. They are known and they are big in london. Thats about it
I don't know what'll happen. Maybe Arsenal will be able to claw it back. But it's SO refreshing to listen to an opposing fan who can come up with an objective analysis. The beige hoodie guy is about the first person I've heard mention Liverpool's injuries.
I want that cream top guy to be my uncle or dad. Pure sense. Liverpool had two major injuries. Klopp after 4/5 years has created the best team in world. 97 points , no title but champions league. Next year had the title won in January with 26/27 wins. Cups galore. Levels.
It’s funny everyone said Pool had no chance of winning league without spending, teams not good enough. Yet now they say Slot Inherited a world class team. 🤷♂️ which is it?
Finally! It's mighty refreshing to see and hear an objective, savvy, clear thinking, intelligent, rational and realistic Arsenal Fan! Who would have thought that was possible? God is indeed great.😊😊😂
Arsenal been spouting about how as soon as City fall off, the title is theirs. That is where some scrutiny is now coming from. A crumbling liverpool side that couldnt keep a clean sheet for 10 minutes per game. No money spent, first job in the prem. Come on. Guy in the middle is acting like Arteta is in year 1 and spent no money.
Cream top man is the only one who isn’t deluded! Those other guys are your typical Arsenal fans and they’re just miles away on every single view and fail to take all things into account when making statements
I am an Arsenal I feel we focus more on how other teams than focus on ours ....we should look more on what stopped us from winning past 2 seasons when it was in our hands ....
For those saying that it's too early to say Liverpool can win the league, they need to hear this. We're not saying it because Liverpool is 5 points ahead of City and 9 points above Arsenal. We're saying Liverpool can win the league even with high margin because of the high quality of their squad compared to others. It is not a blip that Liverpool is leading both the Premier League and the Champions League. There's no team in England right now including City that can rival Liverpool's squad depth, squad quality and squad fitness. City can't have such squad of Liverpool until Summer. The probability of Liverpool losing more points than City and Arsenal out of the remaining 81points is very very low. Arsenal and City fans are some of you blind?? Can't you see ni???
Liverpool haven’t played City yet. If they tie both games with City and you lose to Arsenal at home that’s potentially 7points lost in 3 matches out of the next 27 left. No doubt Liverpool are favored right now, but the margins are smaller than 9pts indicates.
Konate didn't stepped up! he's always been amongst our best defenders since he's arrived at Liverpool! It's just that he suffered a lot from injuries in previous seasons so we didn't really get to see him for the full season to judge him honestly!!! COYR
anyone using the "Slot inherited a great team argument" is a hypocrite. all anyone was saying after Klopp left was how Liverpool would struggle and could fall back into obscurity. Slot has been better than anyone expected, and liverpool show why they are such a well run club.
Last season LFC kids challenged till GW33. Beat CFC in the cup final, our 6th trophy (inc' World Club Champions) in 5yrs. How many trophies did AFC win in that time!?.... .
They had 14 injueires you muppet. You think Arsenal won't crumble with that many injuries? They're already crumbling in November with just a few injuries. Imagine they had 14
Arteta inherited Golden Boot winner Aubamayang and World Cup winning Goalkeeper Martinez as well as Saka so once again Canton the Arsenal shill talking absolute waffle. They can't have been that bad as they won Arteta his one and only trophy and then he binned the lot... Spent 800 million pounds and won nothing else for 5 years 😂 these top gooners...
The guy in the cream hoodie is spot on - you cannot compare Arsenal with City and Liverpool of the past decade - Arsenal fans are a little deluded because what they say and believe isn't quite backed with what they have won
Arsenal and Arteta has actually spent slightly more than Pep did with City during his first five seasons. The starting position was also similiar with City being 4th before Pep and Arsenal being shared 5th before Arteta took over 🤷♂
buddy please don't even bring Pep into this. Pep inherited Kompany, Otamendi, Fernandinho, David Silva, De Bruyne, Sterling, Aguero. This team had already won 2 premier league titles. Klopp and Arteta took over garbage teams and had to do a complete clearout
Really interesting listening to this from an LFC fan point of view. There’s a long long way to go in the title race. However going back to results like the one that both you and city had at Bournemouth can happen every week in the Prem. It’s about maintaining levels every week. I’ve always said that energy overcomes talent in modern football. If a top teams energy drops off then they will be defeated by a bottom side if they turn up. That’s the difference currently with us vs both you and City… you have both let your energy dip at the worst times, but we may lack talent in certain areas but the energy is high and it’s getting results
Nobody talks about how after one season spending 400 million and going to win the title , no one will and can match that , 5 years later Arteta is still trying to figure out
The media has allways been against Arteta ever since he came to the club as coach / manager. The Starting points of slot v Arteta were never the same and it has haunted Arsenal ever since..
He says arteta inherited a bad squad but guess what? It was the only so called bad squad that won the only silverware Arteta has achieved. The guy in the middle is a clown, well done Jordan for speaking sense!!!!
He is a clown but Arsenal fans know he is an Arsenal shill who twerks for the club so nobody pays any attention to him. He just wants to keep journalist access with the club so he won't ever criticise.
When comparing what Slot has inherited vs Arteta, why don't they compare what Arteta has now? Slot inherited the 3rd best team in England found Arteta with the 2nd best team in England, that's where the comparison should be, also Arterta inherited a team with Ozil, Auba, Lacazette, Xhaka, Saka, Martinelli etc.
Liverpool were not the third best team in England, certainly not behind Arsenal. They just had bad luck with injuries. Arsenal is not at our level if our players are fit. We've had just as many injuries as you this season but your team is falling apart. You can't bring players like Kelleher, Jones, Gakpo and Darwin from the bench. You have Sterling, Jesus and that 17 year old kid. No way your team is better than ours. We just had bad luck with injuries
The squad wins the league, not your first 11. It's rare your first choices are fit all season. That's what Klopp took on board and Slot carried on. It's incredible, an enjoying the ride, but we will drop points
Funny that people just focus on the 1 league title that Liverpool won in that period but conveniently ignore the 2 champions league trophies, 4 Fa cups Europa league club World Cup and a number of league cups. Liverpool are a big club. Won more league titles than arsenal. Don’t get it twisted
Every pundit and all the wannabes should watch this, as this is how analysis and punditry should be! Intelligent, Honest, objective and unbiased! Bravo Jordan jarrett Bryan. Give him a follow finally a Pundit with a brain that is not after click bait and is objective!👏🏽
Cream shirt is the only one speaking without bias or delusion. O hate how people underplay Slot's impact. We've had Liverpool inherit good squads and do terribly (Hodgson and barring the freak 2014 season Rodgers)
The cream too guy is so right. If you present and claim to be a top club, you will have some scrutiny until you deliver what top club's deliver. Where is the 90-points season? Where is the league title? Where is the Champions League? The problem the other two guys have is that to win the league, Arsenal need two, not one team, to collapse. Arsenal are 9 points behind Liverpool and 4 points behind City, already.
Questions is can Liverpool keep their squad fit and avoid injuries for the rest of the season. The season is so long it can only take 3 games and everything changes. Slot has an advantage cause he is the unknown factor in the Prem. My opinion is its difficult to win the league for Liverpool and Arsenal because they have rivals in teams that will do anything to stop them from winning and I don't see that with City. City are still the favorites to win
Even if they go on a run, it's still unlikely. Liverpool can also go on a run. Also, it takes 90+ points to win the league. For Arsenal to have 90 points, they can only drop a maximum of 9 more points. Arsenal has already dropped 14 points in 11 games this season, you think they won't drop 9 points in 27 games? I'll happily bet my house that they will. Also, Liverpool has already been to the Emirates as well. Also, Liverpool has better attack and defense than you. Defense wins titles. How are you gonna catch a team 9 points clear who have better GK,attack, midfield and defense than you and also a better bench than you? Arsenal struggle to score unless it's a set piece. You're dreaming my friend. It ain't happening
Of all the 3 clubs pursuing the title, the least under pressure is LFC, why? Well, for one they have a new head coach. So AFC fans thinking that LFC "carrying the mantle" of being on top, in hopes that it helps them go under he radar is ridiculous. Even if Aston Villa were on top, the pressure this season is and will always be on AFC because of their recent antecedents. There's no hiding place for Arteta and Arsenal this season.
This guy in the middle should do more research before commenting nonsense. Pep net spent is lower than Arsenal because Pep is winning trophies, which is income to the club. "€1.18bn arsenal expenditure, €379.05m Arsenal income ever since Pep arrived at city. €1.51bn is the City's expenditure and €724.07m is the City income."
Arsenal fans want it both ways. They're telling us it's their year, Liverpool are nothing to worry about, but then bottle out of carrying the favourites tag.
Bradley is as good a backup for Trent as there is out there. These Arsenal fans are grasping at straws right now. It's just laughable. We're not Arsenal who moan because they lost 1 player instead of admitting their team just aint good enough
I see rival fans preparing narrative and excuses for when Slot wins the league, "Slot inherited world class stars who were competing for yearssss". Bullshit. One question though, where was this energy when he arrived? All were hearing is "Liverpool is going down because of Klopp leaving". I'm not saying Liverpool are winning the league, not yet, but give Slot his due credits, it won't kill you guys to do so.
Sky narrative keep mentioning AFC's injuries, yet rarely mention LFC missing Alisson, Jota, Elliot & Chiesa. Sky pundits are covering their backs when AFC don't win it, as many predicted a close race between MC & AFC with AFC coming out on top...
For someone who call himself as a grown man, you lack insight. Tomorrow anything can happen but look back when Liverpool was the only team suffering from injuries in the top 3. Now look who is being affected. it always catch up. If there is not no guarantee that Liverpool wins it then no guarantee you will catch up. anything can happen but you ain't winning for sure. You Arsenal fans are the deluded one thinking you will win it sitting in 3rd
@binouhtek8461 what are you saying? On one hand you say there's no guarantee of anything on the other Arsenal ain't winning for sure. How does that make sense. Arsenal have had a tough start to the season, away at Newcastle, Spurs, City, Chelsea and Villa already. Throw in a couple of injuries and red cards in the mix and that makes it even harder. I know for dimwits these are excuses, but this is just context. After the break we have a much more favourable run of fixtures and I expect given what we've seen in the past 2 seasons, to go on a bit of a run. I know Liverpool fans want Arsenal to throw in the towel now but sorry, it ain't happening. It's early in the season. Let's talk again on gameday 25!
The title is not done because Arsenal cannot claw back a lead. It's because even when they have a lead they cannot maintain it. Arsenal haven't lost the title against big teams. It's against small teams at critical moments when the pressure is on. Clearly the mentality isn't right
Liverpool fan here! If anyone thinks the title is already sewn up, then they are completely mad. We are in mid November and not mid April, and any number of things can happen between now and then. And if there is one thing I can’t stand, it’s when so called football pundits set Liverpool up for a fall - because they do it every year. OK, Liverpool may now be favourites, but that means next to nothing, as whilst City and Arsenal have had ‘big wobbles’ of late, they are by no means out of the title race, especially with 27 games still to go.
No No. Wait. Arteta spent 5 years to clear out the players and I believed this should be the team he wanted as the players he inherited were gone. So, does it make sense that he believes this current Arsenal team can compete with Liverpool and Man City for the title? If this team competed and got 2nd last season, why are they not performing well with the SAME group of Liverpool players this season then? What's Slot inheriting a world class team has to do with a poor performing Arsenal squad then? Arsenal fan should question their manager, instead of questioning Liverpool, right? Klopp won the league during his 4th year tenure, and Arteta is still looking for the elusive title in his 5th year in charge.
Fella with the cream top absolutely spot on.. honest, unbiased spitting facts and not bitter.. lpool fan
Such a refreshing and honest take from him. Other Arsenal fans make Slots achievement in terms of first 10 games as it’s so easy, well why can’t Arteta do the same.
I think he forgot to drink the delusion cool aid that all arsenal fans have been consuming for years
He is a clown
He’s the only objective one on the planet. The rest of them are typical delusional fans
Thats the different between fan who has brain and who has none.....
The narrative twist is mad 😂😂! 3 months ago, Everybody predicted Liverpool’s downfall! Klopp left, unknown manager, no DM, no signing, dead midfield, Zubimendi rejected Liverpool etc
And now suddenly, Slot inherited a strong team blablabla…this same team finished 3rd last year, 6 or 7 points behind Arsenal
Arsenal have strengthened its team, Liverpool didn’t !
So if Slot wins the title, in his first season, it will be an embarrassment for Arteta, 5 years in charge and €852M spent
Nothing but facts 😂😂
Arsenal hasn't won a league in 20 years , never reached 90 points in that time but their fans make alot of noise , winning " transfer windows" instead of trophies...Now it's semantics , no big team moves like that
@@joshuakithyoma95751989-2019 how many years between?😂
Exactly what this person said is facts@@joshuakithyoma9575
As a red, we still need to remain cautious. There's stlll the unknown factor about Slot. We need to see how he, & the players, handle the pressure in the run in... ..
Cream top guy is speaking FACTS
For sure, only one with an unbiased, balanced & realistic view.
This is the RAREST Kind of Gooner. Honest. Unbias. Rational. Resonable. Logical. NO DELUSION in Sight. He may be the ONLY ONE...(And James).
He’s the only one I’ve heard speak this way on YT, impressed.
Stop overdoing it. So many fans online are pessimistic and are the kind rivals lap up cause they’re doing the glass half empty thing talking bad on their own clubs.
💯 I was literally thinking the same thing. He may just be the only one
Alot of Arsenal fans are Arteta out and are fed up with the club not raising the standards.
We have delulu fans rating the summer window 8/10 while it was 4/10 at best. Gassing up a finished Sterling on loan. Not buying an adequate replacement for Saka and Odegaard. Not buying a proper striker after Sekso turned us down.
The guy on the right hand side is the rational fan that Arsenal needed.
Spot on... In terms of team heritage, don't compare arteta with slot... Just compare to Klopp when he was arrived in liverpool, and see how he built the team that then he heritage the team to slot...
The whole Slot inherited a great team wasn’t there when Klopp was leaving. You lot are flip flops
Agree
But you have players that had been there and won big titles together under klopps rain in the liverpool shirt. That obviously mean/ has meant alot for the stability and atmosphere that Slot has walked into at lfc.
Very good point. No pundits and even most Liverpool fans also predicted a smooth sailing for Slot.
So they shouldn't be salty and keep on mentioning about inheriting world class team blah blah blah
Easy narrative to construct and follow when we haven't got much evidence in the PL era of a title challenging manager picking up where his predecessor left off.
Chelsea maybe. They change manager every 1-2 years so whatever.
But it is surprising and refreshing to see a knowledgeable coach come and use the tools handed to him. Not request £1Billion on transfers, drag it out for 3-4 years and whinging excuses to why it's not working.
@@jeffreyAdewaleIge You're not paying attention of what is being said, do you? If you're, you'll have understood that the point of the comment above is that people didn't this when Slot was taking over at the start of the season, instead their were laughing at Liverpool by appointing an unknown manager and that he and Liverpool will fail. Didn't all of you know that Slot was inheriting these players?
Liverpool have hit 90+ points 3 times recently. Some of the players that achieved that, while winning the league and CL plus cups, are the bedrock and leaders of this Liverpool team.
Honestly these Arsenal fans act like they have been carrying the league for 20 years! They haven’t challenged for the past decade at least. Two good, trophyless seasons and they are the guides on how to handle the pressure. They lost the league and never won it under arteta. And they’ve spent!
Even their so-called Arsenal invincibles didn't make >90 points. No Arsenal team has everything made 90+ points
Much younger midfield compared to Hendo, fabinho
@@DiReal_Donclassy how many times liverpool unbeaten
@@osmanfadil2451Doesn't matter if you win.
Chap on the right only one making sense lmao
Liverpool had plenty of players out injured last season and remained winning games.
really as much as arsenal no
Liverpool had way more injuries than Arsenal last season, at one point it was just all youngsters playing@@osmanfadil2451
More! You had one player our ‘Odegard and apparently don’t have anyone who can take his place to play a forward ball 😂🫣
And they finished third, which is where Arsenal will probably finish this year.
won a trophy too against a billion dollar bottle job team :)
Klopp took over a piss poor Liverpool side in 2015 and by year 5 had two 90+ point seasons (something Arteta has yet to do once) 2 CL finals (winning 1) and won a title. The spend is also not comparable. Aside from Van Dijk and Alisson (who were acquired after selling Coutinho), Klopp’s other signings were mostly all sub £40m, with the exception of Keita. Arteta has spent what? £700m now in 5 seasons and all he has to show for it is an FA cup he ironically won with the team he inherited and a couple title “races” where one his side collapsed down the stretch. He deserves more scrutiny if anything imo.
The bottom line is it's difficult to compete with the oil money of Man City.
The bottom line is arteta hasn't even won the Europa League even once being one of the favorites forget challenging pep city
@@gujh03 You can have a great manager and a great first choice starting 11 and 6-8 great second choice players in the rotation and .... it all can go wrong with a few key injuries. Tied for third is nothing to be ashamed of, really. This happens in football.
It's funny seeing rival fans try to completely change the narrative about Liverpool. Before the start of the season, they all said we'd struggle to get into top 4, now they're saying we SHOULD be doing well because Slot inherited a strong side from Klopp. Stop flip flopping and moving the goal posts.
Last season Arsenal were above Liverpool, then they spent a lot during the summer.
Slot inherited the squad from Klopp that finished below Arsenal and practically had no reinforcement.
That shows only 1 thing: Slot is so much better than Arteta who uses all types of dirty tactics and still fell 9 points behind.
They finished third. It's not like they were miles off winning klopps last season. If you remember that liverpool, were counted as favorite to win with like 10 games to go. Don't give me that nonsense tha liverpool were underdogs last season..
Facts I can assure ya all after the international break city and arsenal will still drop more points than Liverpool who are already 5 points clear and look comfortable home and away 😮
@@jeffreyAdewaleIge Are you turning the narrative to your advantage? Liverpool were 7 points away in 3rd and coming into this season, no reinforcement was done to the team where Arteta, who managed to finish 2nd last season, got in more reinforcement this season and guess what happened? The team performance did not improved and regress instead.
No. Last year Liverpool had 14 injuries and had to field academy players which is why we finished third. Arsenal had maybe 1 or 2 major injuries last year. This season, we've had injuries but not like last season. It just shows that Liverpool's squad is much stronger than Arsenal's. Arsenal can't even play without Odegard or Saka out. If Arsenal have 14 injuries, they would be in a relegation battle
A few weeks ago, many critics said Liverpool hadn’t beaten any team above them… I agree… It’s hard to do that when you are at the top of the tables in both premier league and champions league.
LOL. After Liverpool plays Man City: "Liverpool has not played a single club that is not 8 points or more off the top of the table!"
Liverpool just have more talents, plain and simple. Odegaard is the only Arsenal player that would get into Liverpool's best11. Saliba and Gabriel are good, but Van Dijk and Konate are at a different level this year. Trent is better that Ben White. Saka is great, but Salah is better. Liverpool have the best front 5 in the league
Arsenal and arteta just aren't as good as their fans think they are. All the ridiculous excuses they've been coming out with are just a way to avoid admitting this.
@@jonathancampbell9133talking nonsense. If you aint that good then you wouldnt finish where they did for last 2 seasons
No… Konate is not a better player than Gabriel, just forget about it.
Saliba is better than Van Dyk
Gabriel is better than Konate.
Continuing…
Raya is better than Keleher
White is better than Trent as a both an defender and attacker
Rice is better than Gravenberch
Odegaard is better than Mac Allister.
The rest, I’d pick Liverpool
So 6-5 to Arsenal
@@jonathancampbell9133
Then by your logic, Liverpool aren’t good enough.
Why are Arsenal not good enough?
Do you remember what it takes to compete with City?
Do you remember why Klopp failed to beat City 7 times out of his 8 seasons?
Do you understand why Klopp finished below Arteta in his final two seasons and couldn’t beat Arteta in the league in his last 4 attempts?
@@laislabonita Have you watched both teams this season so far? Clearly you have not. Rice has been very average this past 11 games, Konate and Van Dijk has been the best CB pairing this year, Alisson is the best keeper in the league and he is returning after the international break, and only a blind Arsenal fan would say Ben White has been better than Trent this season. For the record, Arsenal has conceded twice as many goals as Liverpool, even though Liverpool has been playing their backup goalkeeper
Every fan should listen to this guy, proper football fan- not just a delusional supporter. Well done sir for telling some home truths
Arsenal and their excuses never end , Slot comes in 1 st year potentially wins everything and Arteta in his 5 year and same excuse same crying fan base
Lazy observation. Jumping on the bandwagon. Slot inherited a team that was probably an 8 or 9 (on a scale of title readiness out of 10), whilst Arteta inherited a team that was 0. It takes years to go from 0-10, and the season is not over.
You’re the only one crying, literally no self awarenessz! 😂🤦🏾♂️
@@sanjayb7272you can't be saying that after arteta spend way more than klopp and finished above klopp in the previous 2 seasons...thats just lazy
@@tec4321-e5o non Arsenal fans seem to have all.come out the woodwork after a bad patch. Can't wait until we start winning again, then you'll be back in your hole
@@sanjayb7272well arsenal fans talk a lot of sh*t and were saying liverpool are not in the title race at the beginning of the season as if they have some divine claim to the top...you then went on to say they only played easy teams whilst you were getting spanked by Bournemouth...you'd think they are experts in winning trophies when they havent won a major trophy in over 20 years
Delusional arsenal fans as usual 😂😂
Tom Canton loves Arteta, wont hear a word said against him. His face at the end was pure joy 😅
Complete embarrassment that guy
He blocked me for challenging him on Arteta.
Sorry please keep your favorites tag we don't want it! We are happy with our under dogs tag thank you!
middle guy , tool & fool , makes supporting arsenal so difficult with guys like this....
He's a Krankies PRsenal FC guy
Tom Canton is an absolute prat
As a non-Arsenal fan looking in, I think Arteta’s problem is his inexperience as a manager before joining Arsenal.
You can see he had a great mentor in Pep but you can see he struggles at implementing his own ideas; he has shown his tactics are to play negative football when in a crisis. Arsenal don’t have the underbelly when it gets tough.
When Liverpool were ravaged with injuries in the 20/21 they still finished 3rd; with Nat Phillips and Rhys Williams as a CB pairing. Klopp had to tweak his tactics without changing the core fundamentals that made them successful. These are lessons learnt from experience.
Unfortunately for Arsenal fans and Arteta, he has to learn these lessons in the harshest environment possible. You mix that with the young team Arsenal have like Saka, Odegaard, Rice etc it’s tough. If you look at Salah, he struggled at Chelsea before joining Liverpool and becoming who he is.. that’s experience. Klopp at Dortmund before Liverpool? That’s experience. These are all things Arteta and squad will be experiencing now.
Even Arne slot is a more experienced manager than arteta and is used to using everyone in the squad to get results.
Good points.
Klopp also proved he (and the recruiting staff) had an eye for good players that Jurgen could get great performances out of. Salah's 19 goals in Serie A before transferring over were good but not noteworthy. They got Robertson for the cost of a fancy latte. Curtis Jones came out of the youth system and blossomed into an important player last season. Slot (like Klopp) saw a player with potential in Gravenberch, and Slot unlocked that potential -- Ryan has been one of the best two players on the pitch in almost every game he has played. I could go on.
Buying Rice for a truckloadof gold is no bad thing, but Arteta does not have the depth of players he trusts because he has work to do building that. That is not so much a complaint about Arteta, but pointing out he has more work to do. Also Arteta is not showing the knack for getting better performances out of his team in a second half or, like both Klopp and Slot have been able to. Experience matters.
Jordan is a commentator on talkSPORT and is a regular on AFTV, I'm surprised more people don't know who he is. Folk always brand him as 'negative', but he's one of most realistic football fans i've ever seen.
👌👌 I have not seen one humble Arsenal fan as him. He is realistic about their chances and makes total sense of Arteta. Remember, Jurgen Klopp inherited a lousy team in 2015 mid season and built a superpower in 5 years, by 2020 and by then he already won CL and PL. Where is Arteta?
2:22 The AFTV effect. You have the biggest fan channel in the world. Liverpool have RedmenTV but they took a different model where premium content is under a paywall so it never really took off. They also didn't capitalize on fan interviews life aftv did. United had only Goldbridge as a voice so that fan pressure is not as much. The way arsenal fans also treated Wenger in his final years really put aftv on the map. So the spotlight and pressure is created by arsenal fans themselves.
Finally we have an Arsenal fan that is fair and honest. Every fan watches their team with some sort of bias but this season the injury crisis (not) has been ramped up and the red cards (self-inflicted) have been used as excuses to compensate for poor performances and results by Arsenal fans.
I’m an LFC fan and it’s crazy to assume a team like Arsenal haven’t got the capacity or personnel to get back in the running when we’re not even at Christmas yet !
They're not even playing well , and to win the title in this Man city era you have to be perfect. Just ask Klopp, even Netflix FC haven't pushed Man City as Liverpool did
It's actually AFC fans who're dismissing LFC, even though we're 9pts ahead. AFTV is literally "LFC will fall off" fan channel atm.
If arsenal want to get to 90 points, they need to do 23-2-2 or 22-5-0, the way their playing i cant see it.
The light is always shining on us and so is the pressure. We handle it well all the time
“Slot had the squad already.” Arteta had 5 years to sort his squad. Being outdone by a guy who just came in after 5 years is humiliating
The only people scrutinising Arsenal is their own fans.
Other fans dont really bother with them as they are not a threat to win the league. They need to make a statement to be a big club. Arsenal are not a big club. They are known and they are big in london. Thats about it
I don't know what'll happen. Maybe Arsenal will be able to claw it back. But it's SO refreshing to listen to an opposing fan who can come up with an objective analysis. The beige hoodie guy is about the first person I've heard mention Liverpool's injuries.
I want that cream top guy to be my uncle or dad. Pure sense. Liverpool had two major injuries. Klopp after 4/5 years has created the best team in world. 97 points , no title but champions league. Next year had the title won in January with 26/27 wins. Cups galore. Levels.
It’s funny everyone said Pool had no chance of winning league without spending, teams not good enough. Yet now they say Slot Inherited a world class team. 🤷♂️ which is it?
Finally! It's mighty refreshing to see and hear an objective, savvy, clear thinking, intelligent, rational and realistic Arsenal Fan! Who would have thought that was possible? God is indeed great.😊😊😂
Guy on the panel with cream jumper is so right. Good sensible commentary. Gets that Arsenal aren't the only team suffering injuries.
Nice to hear from a gooner talking absolute facts, with no delusions or bias.
Curtis is spot on (i think that’s his name, cream top guy)
His name is Jordan
@ ahh cheers
How is Arsenal being rated over Liverpool strange times man
So basically he’s hoping for a Liverpool Injury to TAA(Bradley) and Konate(Quansah/Gomez) we’ll still be class
Man on the right spitting nothing but facts.
Liverpool need to get 90 points, 62 more points…don’t need to worry about Arsenal, City much bigger threat
Arsenal been spouting about how as soon as City fall off, the title is theirs. That is where some scrutiny is now coming from.
A crumbling liverpool side that couldnt keep a clean sheet for 10 minutes per game. No money spent, first job in the prem.
Come on. Guy in the middle is acting like Arteta is in year 1 and spent no money.
The light will shine for a VERY long time! WE ARE LIVERPOOL 🔴
Liverpool have had no Jota, Allison , Elliot or Chiesa all season pretty much
The guy that ended the discussion lives in reality unlike other arsenal fans living in their dream
Cream top man is the only one who isn’t deluded! Those other guys are your typical Arsenal fans and they’re just miles away on every single view and fail to take all things into account when making statements
I am an Arsenal I feel we focus more on how other teams than focus on ours ....we should look more on what stopped us from winning past 2 seasons when it was in our hands ....
Elephant in the room…… arsenals history in European competition 🧐
For those saying that it's too early to say Liverpool can win the league, they need to hear this. We're not saying it because Liverpool is 5 points ahead of City and 9 points above Arsenal. We're saying Liverpool can win the league even with high margin because of the high quality of their squad compared to others. It is not a blip that Liverpool is leading both the Premier League and the Champions League. There's no team in England right now including City that can rival Liverpool's squad depth, squad quality and squad fitness. City can't have such squad of Liverpool until Summer. The probability of Liverpool losing more points than City and Arsenal out of the remaining 81points is very very low. Arsenal and City fans are some of you blind?? Can't you see ni???
Liverpool haven’t played City yet. If they tie both games with City and you lose to Arsenal at home that’s potentially 7points lost in 3 matches out of the next 27 left. No doubt Liverpool are favored right now, but the margins are smaller than 9pts indicates.
Man city have the best squad in the premier league 😂😂😂
@@marcus-skyBest Squad is Arsenal.
@@kurthodlin1918 If they, had they, would have..... Continue saying all these till Liverpool is 15 points above City and 25 points above Arsenal.
Konate didn't stepped up! he's always been amongst our best defenders since he's arrived at Liverpool! It's just that he suffered a lot from injuries in previous seasons so we didn't really get to see him for the full season to judge him honestly!!! COYR
Artetas team when he took over won the FA cup!!! It wasn’t bad at all,
anyone using the "Slot inherited a great team argument" is a hypocrite. all anyone was saying after Klopp left was how Liverpool would struggle and could fall back into obscurity. Slot has been better than anyone expected, and liverpool show why they are such a well run club.
A realist analysis thank you
Slot inherited a team than crumbled under Klopp towards end of last season.
Last season LFC kids challenged till GW33. Beat CFC in the cup final, our 6th trophy (inc' World Club Champions) in 5yrs. How many trophies did AFC win in that time!?.... .
They had 14 injueires you muppet. You think Arsenal won't crumble with that many injuries? They're already crumbling in November with just a few injuries. Imagine they had 14
Arteta inherited Golden Boot winner Aubamayang and World Cup winning Goalkeeper Martinez as well as Saka so once again Canton the Arsenal shill talking absolute waffle. They can't have been that bad as they won Arteta his one and only trophy and then he binned the lot... Spent 800 million pounds and won nothing else for 5 years 😂 these top gooners...
Tom makes me cringe the way he justifies arsenal s failure despite thier blatant short comings
The guy in the cream hoodie is spot on - you cannot compare Arsenal with City and Liverpool of the past decade - Arsenal fans are a little deluded because what they say and believe isn't quite backed with what they have won
Plain looking dude is coping. All excuses. Arsenals red cards are their fault.
Cream top guy is the only one that deserves respect, completely unbiased and speaking facts. Everyone else is so biased and delusional
Arsenal and Arteta has actually spent slightly more than Pep did with City during his first five seasons. The starting position was also similiar with City being 4th before Pep and Arsenal being shared 5th before Arteta took over 🤷♂
buddy please don't even bring Pep into this. Pep inherited Kompany, Otamendi, Fernandinho, David Silva, De Bruyne, Sterling, Aguero. This team had already won 2 premier league titles. Klopp and Arteta took over garbage teams and had to do a complete clearout
Really interesting listening to this from an LFC fan point of view. There’s a long long way to go in the title race. However going back to results like the one that both you and city had at Bournemouth can happen every week in the Prem. It’s about maintaining levels every week. I’ve always said that energy overcomes talent in modern football. If a top teams energy drops off then they will be defeated by a bottom side if they turn up. That’s the difference currently with us vs both you and City… you have both let your energy dip at the worst times, but we may lack talent in certain areas but the energy is high and it’s getting results
Only 2 out of 3 on this panel are allowed on AFTV 😂
Nobody talks about how after one season spending 400 million and going to win the title , no one will and can match that , 5 years later Arteta is still trying to figure out
If Slot wins in his first season, i dont wanna hear any excuses from Arteta. Hes had 5 seasons to build
The media has allways been against Arteta ever since he came to the club as coach / manager. The Starting points of slot v Arteta were never the same and it has haunted Arsenal ever since..
He says arteta inherited a bad squad but guess what? It was the only so called bad squad that won the only silverware Arteta has achieved.
The guy in the middle is a clown, well done Jordan for speaking sense!!!!
He is a clown but Arsenal fans know he is an Arsenal shill who twerks for the club so nobody pays any attention to him. He just wants to keep journalist access with the club so he won't ever criticise.
Liverpool had 4 red cards last season in 10
Games, we didn’t complain.
When comparing what Slot has inherited vs Arteta, why don't they compare what Arteta has now? Slot inherited the 3rd best team in England found Arteta with the 2nd best team in England, that's where the comparison should be, also Arterta inherited a team with Ozil, Auba, Lacazette, Xhaka, Saka, Martinelli etc.
Liverpool were not the third best team in England, certainly not behind Arsenal. They just had bad luck with injuries. Arsenal is not at our level if our players are fit. We've had just as many injuries as you this season but your team is falling apart. You can't bring players like Kelleher, Jones, Gakpo and Darwin from the bench. You have Sterling, Jesus and that 17 year old kid. No way your team is better than ours. We just had bad luck with injuries
The squad wins the league, not your first 11. It's rare your first choices are fit all season. That's what Klopp took on board and Slot carried on. It's incredible, an enjoying the ride, but we will drop points
Liverpool went 30 years and only have 1 prem title. But have always been seen as a big team.
So?
And you, 20 years no league titles. No European trophies. Ever. Small club Arsenal.
Funny that people just focus on the 1 league title that Liverpool won in that period but conveniently ignore the 2 champions league trophies, 4 Fa cups Europa league club World Cup and a number of league cups. Liverpool are a big club. Won more league titles than arsenal. Don’t get it twisted
Arsenal have never won the CL and r a big team. Now what ? 😅
@dwayneterence7456 check how many trophies overall. 3rd behind Liverpool n Man utd 🤫🤫🤫🤫
Every pundit and all the wannabes should watch this, as this is how analysis and punditry should be!
Intelligent, Honest, objective and unbiased! Bravo Jordan jarrett Bryan. Give him a follow finally a Pundit with a brain that is not after click bait and is objective!👏🏽
There's pressure on you due to your supporters.
You build your own pressure.
The main difference here is that Liverpool fc has historical pressure and expectations where as arsenals all come from there excitable fanbase….
Cream shirt is the only one speaking without bias or delusion. O hate how people underplay Slot's impact. We've had Liverpool inherit good squads and do terribly (Hodgson and barring the freak 2014 season Rodgers)
The cream too guy is so right. If you present and claim to be a top club, you will have some scrutiny until you deliver what top club's deliver. Where is the 90-points season? Where is the league title? Where is the Champions League? The problem the other two guys have is that to win the league, Arsenal need two, not one team, to collapse. Arsenal are 9 points behind Liverpool and 4 points behind City, already.
Cream top guy speaking sense. Good job, keep it up
You can't be talking about arteta's first year when comparing with slot, thats just silly
Questions is can Liverpool keep their squad fit and avoid injuries for the rest of the season. The season is so long it can only take 3 games and everything changes. Slot has an advantage cause he is the unknown factor in the Prem.
My opinion is its difficult to win the league for Liverpool and Arsenal because they have rivals in teams that will do anything to stop them from winning and I don't see that with City.
City are still the favorites to win
Liverpool fan. Only 11 games in and 5 points ahead. Still alot of games to go. Calma.
I'm calm, I'm actually enjoying the other 2 panicking telling us to calm down 😂
The guy on dreads is intelligent 👌
Had no idea Rachel Mcadams is into Arsenal
I agree it's unlikely Arsenal are catching them, but then it's the gunners go on a winning run. Crazier things have happened.
Even if they go on a run, it's still unlikely. Liverpool can also go on a run. Also, it takes 90+ points to win the league. For Arsenal to have 90 points, they can only drop a maximum of 9 more points. Arsenal has already dropped 14 points in 11 games this season, you think they won't drop 9 points in 27 games? I'll happily bet my house that they will. Also, Liverpool has already been to the Emirates as well. Also, Liverpool has better attack and defense than you. Defense wins titles. How are you gonna catch a team 9 points clear who have better GK,attack, midfield and defense than you and also a better bench than you? Arsenal struggle to score unless it's a set piece. You're dreaming my friend. It ain't happening
Of all the 3 clubs pursuing the title, the least under pressure is LFC, why? Well, for one they have a new head coach. So AFC fans thinking that LFC "carrying the mantle" of being on top, in hopes that it helps them go under he radar is ridiculous. Even if Aston Villa were on top, the pressure this season is and will always be on AFC because of their recent antecedents. There's no hiding place for Arteta and Arsenal this season.
This guy in the middle should do more research before commenting nonsense. Pep net spent is lower than Arsenal because Pep is winning trophies, which is income to the club. "€1.18bn arsenal expenditure, €379.05m Arsenal income ever since Pep arrived at city. €1.51bn is the City's expenditure and €724.07m is the City income."
Excuses.... Dreads guy speaking facts
You ended with Jordan and his uniformed opinion....Get this guy out of the pannel.
Arsenal fans want it both ways. They're telling us it's their year, Liverpool are nothing to worry about, but then bottle out of carrying the favourites tag.
I mean I think Trent is literally back for Southampton. Plus they’ll be getting back Elliott, Jota, Alisson and Chiesa immediately after the break
Bradley is as good a backup for Trent as there is out there. These Arsenal fans are grasping at straws right now. It's just laughable. We're not Arsenal who moan because they lost 1 player instead of admitting their team just aint good enough
7:45 30 metres behind Bolt in a 200m race?? You'd have literally no chance at all ; Arsenal don't have no chance they have about a 20% chance....
I see rival fans preparing narrative and excuses for when Slot wins the league, "Slot inherited world class stars who were competing for yearssss". Bullshit.
One question though, where was this energy when he arrived? All were hearing is "Liverpool is going down because of Klopp leaving". I'm not saying Liverpool are winning the league, not yet, but give Slot his due credits, it won't kill you guys to do so.
Sky narrative keep mentioning AFC's injuries, yet rarely mention LFC missing Alisson, Jota, Elliot & Chiesa. Sky pundits are covering their backs when AFC don't win it, as many predicted a close race between MC & AFC with AFC coming out on top...
How long are arsenal fans gonna keep saying arteta inherited such a bad team, it was 5 years ago
The guy in the dreadlocks is worth listening to. That guy needs to be protected at all cost for the future of football.
To grown up folks such as myself, the title aint decided in 11 games.
For silly babies in adult bodies, Yes Liverpool have already won!
For someone who call himself as a grown man, you lack insight. Tomorrow anything can happen but look back when Liverpool was the only team suffering from injuries in the top 3. Now look who is being affected. it always catch up. If there is not no guarantee that Liverpool wins it then no guarantee you will catch up. anything can happen but you ain't winning for sure. You Arsenal fans are the deluded one thinking you will win it sitting in 3rd
@binouhtek8461 not even 3rd m8 their 4th😅
@binouhtek8461 what are you saying? On one hand you say there's no guarantee of anything on the other Arsenal ain't winning for sure. How does that make sense.
Arsenal have had a tough start to the season, away at Newcastle, Spurs, City, Chelsea and Villa already.
Throw in a couple of injuries and red cards in the mix and that makes it even harder.
I know for dimwits these are excuses, but this is just context.
After the break we have a much more favourable run of fixtures and I expect given what we've seen in the past 2 seasons, to go on a bit of a run.
I know Liverpool fans want Arsenal to throw in the towel now but sorry, it ain't happening.
It's early in the season.
Let's talk again on gameday 25!
its not over and done yet and arsenal still can do it
Arsenal fans are crying.
You told us the last two years you were better liverpool without winning single trophy.
The title is not done because Arsenal cannot claw back a lead. It's because even when they have a lead they cannot maintain it. Arsenal haven't lost the title against big teams. It's against small teams at critical moments when the pressure is on. Clearly the mentality isn't right
such brave prediction
Klopp rebuild liverpool and win the ucl and the prem in 5 yrs 😂
Liverpool fan here! If anyone thinks the title is already sewn up, then they are completely mad. We are in mid November and not mid April, and any number of things can happen between now and then.
And if there is one thing I can’t stand, it’s when so called football pundits set Liverpool up for a fall - because they do it every year.
OK, Liverpool may now be favourites, but that means next to nothing, as whilst City and Arsenal have had ‘big wobbles’ of late, they are by no means out of the title race, especially with 27 games still to go.
We ain’t bloody winning it, not with Guardiola’s former kitman!
No No. Wait. Arteta spent 5 years to clear out the players and I believed this should be the team he wanted as the players he inherited were gone. So, does it make sense that he believes this current Arsenal team can compete with Liverpool and Man City for the title? If this team competed and got 2nd last season, why are they not performing well with the SAME group of Liverpool players this season then? What's Slot inheriting a world class team has to do with a poor performing Arsenal squad then? Arsenal fan should question their manager, instead of questioning Liverpool, right? Klopp won the league during his 4th year tenure, and Arteta is still looking for the elusive title in his 5th year in charge.