I Simulated 1,950,480 Battles To Find The Strongest Pokémon Team
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What is the Best Pokémon Team of ALL Time?
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There's no 76. This list is officially invalidated.
Oof
Steven:(
He is hard
Also 16:04 is hell
Bro, did you actually mispronounce Peony’s name? It’s not ‘pee-ohn-nee’, it’s Pee-uh-nee’.
Bro, did you actually mispronounce Peony’s name? It’s not ‘pee-ohn-nee’, it’s Pee-uh-nee’.
Can I get this code?
"How did they get first place??"
> Suspiciously flutter mane shaped team
I see the Flutter Mane and the Roaring Moon and go "Yea that makes sense, carry on."
Fluttermane could sweep through 80% of teams and the few it can’t it only puts moonblast shaped holes through it that makes it food for Roaring Moon
Insane then that Bugsy did so well against them, considering Flutter Mane is 4x resistant to bug.
@@DoctorFalchion Scizor Bullet Punch can probably OHKO Flutter Mane
@@DoctorFalchiontechnican bullet punch go brrrr
Basically, what AI Sada/Turo said when you are about to battle them is true, that they had gathered data from all trainers and that they were the strongest, unmatched.
And totally has nothing to do with Sada having Fluttermane who is literally one of the very few pokemon to be banned from ubers.
@@ForestX77and a retro-salamence to clean up any Pokémon that get past it. Not too mention those Pokémon probably have moon blast shaped holes in them.
"Oh self-called 'unmatched' AI Sada, I present to you new data. I call it, 'Mega Rayquaza With Z-Move: Celebration'."
"Does... Not... Compute... Cannot process power levels... ERROR! ERROR!"
Hmmmm a fellow jolteon fan i see
@@falsnamae3511 she still has flutter mane who looks at Mega Ray and just scowls and throws a second Moonblast.
Still kind of disappointed that Scarlet and Violet didn’t do the whole “gym leaders pokemon scale with how many badges you have”. Would have made the game a lot more fun
Yeah, let's be honest for a second: Gen IX is a fantastic story, but an awful game
I completely disagree. I enjoyed going after the harder ones first and having something to work hard to overcome. If I'm overpowered compared to the weaker leaders, I can use a new team or steamroll them like I would have done in the older games.
@@旭球Gen IX is hardly different gameplay wise from any other Pokemon game. Do you think all those are awful too?
@@旭球it’s my favorite game of all time, but if you think it’s bad, I’d like to hear why
A lot of things that take time and effort would have made S/V a lot more fun.
Love that the #1 trainer is someone with no status or set up moves. Just really strong pokemon with extremely powerful damaging moves. 8 year old me would be so happy
Also the ai is so bad at timing and using them, their existence on non human teams is genuinely a debuff
That just goes to show how crazy the power creep is in gen 8/9, the fact that the Pokemon don't even need setup.
@bigfudge2031 Its also as the other comment said, the AI is HORRID at set up to the point that at times it hurts them more than it helps. If the teams with set-up mons had like two extra brain cells we'd probably see them higher
The reason Turo placed 2nd and not1st is actually because of something he mentioned early in the video. Half his team is weak to ground when any post game team worth its salt will probably have earthquake. Sara’s team, while similarly stacked, has fewer overlapping weaknesses
Yeah and there’s legitimately nobody who will set up electric terrain for quark drive
But there’s plenty of teams that will set up sun for protosynthais
Another thing: Flutter Mane is cracked lmaoooooo
That's also why Bugsy specifically did so well against Sada. I mean, Scizor alone deals with Brute Bonnet, Roaring Moon, Scream Tail and, most importantly, Flutter Mane, while also not taking any particularly high amount of damage from Slither Wing or Sandy Shocks.
Chalk that up to them being steel or electric. It's not like they can make the future robot pokemon _not_ those types.
@@J.Blazer
None of the "future robot" pokemon are Steel, and only 2 are Electric.
I'm wondering if Kieran ranked as low as 25 because his team is designed for doubles. Honestly I can see it
Personally, Kieran's team was the only team I actually did well against. The "Elite Four" all brought me down to one Mon left, meanwhile I swept Kieran without even taking damage...
@@qqqqquesadillapoor guy...
Keirian's team is at best trash and would do significantly worse then it did here in equal skill piloted matches. 2 of the Elite 4 are actually ok weather teams lacking proper setup. Conversely i threw a properly trained Technician/Dice Cincino at Kirian which KO'd 5 of his 6 pokemon nto even leaving time for Tinkaton to start dropping +6 Gigaton Hammers
the same for me. well.. amarys was also a wash, but kieran didnt do anything sadly. pretty sure i only saw him do one move, the dragonite using hurricane, and i thought "oh damn rain into stab sudo legendary hurricane", but he really dissappointed@@qqqqquesadilla
I think Kieran was relatively easy to most because he was not a specialist. You need to account to alot of extra factors and Pokemon when you do not have clear strengths and weaknesses. Hence why some of the other BB league memberes absolutely washed certain players since alot of them just bring a counter to your counter if you overcommit on it, while washing any Pokemon weak to theirs.
Opal is just an example of how OP the fairy type is.
At the very least it isn't surprising that she gets some wins against a team that consists of some dragons.
It's surprising that _he_ finds that surprising
@@J.Blazer i am just washing the video and i am like ..its against dragon
Raihan is super unfocused as a team for his singles team, which is probably why he ended up struggling as much as he did. He's very focused on weather setting, which would be fine if most of his team didn't have different weathers they relied on.
He's also a double battle gym leader, so taking that weather focus and trying to apply it in singles without modifications unsurprisingly makes his performance lacking.
Noticing a lack of Wally. Honestly I think his final ORAS rematch team has a shot of ranking VERY high, being probably the only competitively built team with a Mega on it in these games. Even if Megas are banned, the rest of his team are really pulling their weight too.
yeah I don't get why bro included some rival fights like Nemona and Cheren but not others like Wally, Barry, or Hugh
@@Ray-wz8sgNemona is a champion that starts her journey again for shts and giggles. Cheren is a rival turned gym leader from BW to B2W2
@@jg78538 True, but that doesn't cover characters like Hop, Hau, and Kukui. The latter two are the final bosses of the main story, but canonically they are just the first challengers against you, the newly crowned Champion. And then of course, what is Volo doing here? There was no League at all in that game.
Even if it was only characters who are gym leaders/E4 or equivalent/Champion I feel like Wally should still be in here, not allowing rivals and such is a really lame restriction
In short, everyone featured here outside of Sada/Turo and the Frontier Brains, were fought directly as _PART_ of the League Challenge. Whether that be as a gym leader, an elite four member, fighting for the Champion title, or fought in Galar's Tournament. Rivals fought along the way while _getting_ to the League, but not actually fought as _part_ of the League, didn't make the cut for the list. At least, that looks to be the qualifier to me. With that in mind, I'm not actually sure what Sada and Turo are doing here; they at least admitted that they simply decided to throw in the Frontier Brains on a whim.
You aren’t fooling me. I know it’s youngster Joey with his top tier rattata.
My favorite thing about the perfect Ratatta is that in one of the games, I think HG/SS, they explicitly made it have all 0 IVs. Literally the worst it could be lol
They couldn't cover him in this kids tournament as obviously he would have a 100 - 0 score with everyone
Some say it’s even in the top percentage of Rattata
Just wait when his Rattata evolves into a Rattacate
"It's a little thing I like to call...Mewtwo. Mewtwo. He has a Mewtwo."
Oh and not just any mewtwo both mega mewtwos (depending on which game)
He's a mafia boss of course he won't play fair amd will use all his assets to to win
And a physical Mewtwo lol
@@bigdoggo5827 that's because it's the Mega Mewtwo X version
Hearing Bugsy held their own against paradox pokemon is awesome. Putting respect on the Bug Type
*His
It's probably a testament to the power of scizor with swords dance + technician bullet punch
@@gerardoalexandergarciamend7053 grammatically incorrect. the use of "they" in that sentence is used in a neutral sense. 'they' would fit just as well as 'he' would.
5:37 For whatever reason, Koga actually does NOT appear in the PWT, being replaced by Janine. Maybe it's because by this point, Koga is actually an E4 member, and no longer a gym leader? But I mean, Giovanni is there, despite being replaced by Blue at that point, so who knows.
Blue appears in PWT as a champion of Kanto
@@emeraldbeedrill Champions are in the PWT, just not E4 members.
@@BeyondTrash-xe1vsyeah, I think that is my only gripe with the PWT, the lack of E4 presence.
Probably since I think Wallace only appears in the Champion tournament and not the gym leader tournament. Blue makes it weird though since he appears in the Champion tournament despite being beaten and officially becoming Viridian City gym leader
Elite 4 Will deserved I really like his design he is really cool
So, if we take out the very unfair Computer Teams of Ai Sada and Ai Tuto then the Human top 5 is
1. Leon
2. Alder
3. Cynthia
4. Nemona
5. Amarys
Which I think is a fair showing that Leon is always as good as he says he is, Alder being underrated AF, and Cynthia still being one of the best of the best no matter the Pokémon generation.
I wonder which Leon team would perform the best shame he only ran the rillaboom team. I feel like which starter he had could've altered the rankings like how hop with zacian did 15 places better than hop with zamezenta
@@Evan-ch3jc I think he did simulated the other starters but Rilaboom team was the best. Also I think he mentioned that he accidentally included both Hop teams
I find it hilarious how cracked Cynthia is just in general. I believe she consistently in all the videos like this ranked top ten-fifteen it’s honestly really impressive for a gen 4 trainer considering the insane power creep.
@@joshuafrazier3904 I also think it's worth mentioning that the existence of fairies has really thrown a wrench at Cynthia. Before then, her Spiritomb had zero weaknesses.
so Amarys is the strongest Elite Four.
27:10 we all know the reason. Flutter Mane is the reason
If they even get to the flutter mane after sceam tail one shots everyone
@@TheSoupguy1Roaring Moon too.
Sadly, it's not her ace.
Funny how Leon being the 1st ranked Champion on this list matched his ranking in the anime prior to the Masters Eight.
Alder over Cynthia was definitely an upset. Wish we saw more of his battle prowess in the anime.
alder is retired champion so it kinda makes sense for his peak to be better than cynthia cause of quiver dance but that said since he retired he dint participate in the masters 8 in the anime hence we got iris instead.
@@scarletrose8766 yeah. Makes me wish we saw hints of Alder in his prime.
@@TheReaperofHades yeah even in games he's already almost retired like man got wiped by N since his old team were I think dead already and loosing to N he wanted to retired but I guess he kept his title for 2 more years till iris beats him which was the time frame between BW and BW2
At 51-49 it was a complete tossup; run the simulation again and there's basically a 50% chance Cynthia and Alder are swapped.
@@8Kazuja8 if you're talking about volcarona. Volcar9na isn't an official pseudo legendary. But it can be strong yes
Cynthia: Everyone simps over me how did I only get 5th?
Leon: my team is balanced with lots of good coverage with no items.
Turo: I literally have a team of legendary stat pokemon FROM THE FUTURE!
Sada: I got Fluttermane.
Everyone: Oh….. ok…
Cynthea's best team also cant be played properly by AI like Leon's can, and wasnt designed by at the time competitive players like Alder's team was.
Turo and Sada just straight up brutalize everyone else with stats and competitive monsters. Sada's team just has better natural balance though with the gimmick restrictions the professors had.
@@F14thunderhawk I mean it's quite telling that Leon actually still lost to Cynthia despite of her team getting nerfed like crazy if you equalize lvls in addition to random AIs not being able to follow it's actual strategy properly, Leon having an on paper good team was always the only thing that didn't suck about him after all.
Alder: M0th
@@gunchar06 'only thing that didnt suck about him' one of the only champions that does something during the story lol...nonsense hate because he's from sword and shield
@@ArceTheTroll How on earth is him off-screen doing what actually the players should do so that they don't need to put any effort in a good thing(even Lance was already better than that), Leon sucks cause he is pretty much written like a random Mary Sue OC in low lvl fanfiction and cause he is just the embodiement of lazy game design.
"Opal had some insane upsets"
Proceeds to list every mono-dragon team against opal's mono-fairy
I think the #1 biggest surprise is that Alder ranked higher than Cynthia. Never really had an issue with Alder, always had problems with Cynthia
This is Pokemon World Tournament Alder, look at those optimal items, I assume you're thinking of postgame league alder?
I think the same to but considering there was a one battle difference in there win loss ratio and Cynthia outperformed him against Leon I think it’s safe to say she’s essentially tied with him probably. Honestly same with the entirety of ranks 5-3 they probably all are like only a couple battle off from each other score wise.
PWT Alder is nasty
He had a conk, darm and volc. These 3 are deffo going to 1 shot a lot of pokemon and have the bulk to eat hits. If volc sets up it sweeps
Worth noting: Alder beat Cynthia 51/49. That's shockingly close to being a draw.
Meanwhile, Leon beat Alder by a decent margin and Cynthia beat Leon by over 20 wins. (Probably because Leon has no answer to Milotic)
19:52 Sees the Thunder, misses the STAB Hurricane.
Probably doesn’t know it can’t miss in rain
It’s also possible he just decided not to point out STAB moves because it’s assumed a mon would have them.
With Wattson I imagine his performance is due to the following:
1) The only weakness to Electric is Ground
2) Steel type Magnezone has good resistances, and takes advantage of that with a stall setup
3) Rotom Wash has very good coverage and can use Hydro Pump to dispell any ground threats while itself being immune to ground types
4) Rotom, Ampharos, and Raichu all have insanely good coverage, and all of his other Pokemon besides Magnezone have some sort of coverage move that can help against types electric often struggles with, or type combos more specifically.
5) Up to 3 Pokemon with static means he's very often going to have speed advantage regardless of what he's fighting. And Raichu can cause parafusion
To bad we can't use romhack Inclement Emerald's Watson. That team is ridiculously cracked with the Sticky Web Galvantula lead.
I'm just glad that despite all the bullshit power creep Red and Blue still got to the top 25, using normal gen 1 Pokemon and in Red's case a freaking Pikachu.
Love that Falkner showed up for the World Tournament, took off his gloves, and made sure everyone could see _why_ he was pulling his punches. Didn't expect that high a ranking from the first Johto Gym Leader, but I'll take it. My respect for him is higher now.
As you were going up the list I kept thinking "damn, Emmet and Ingo are that strong?!" until I got through 27 minutes and realized they were never going to be mentioned
Same with Bianca
Leon slander has gotta stop. He proved himself the greatest champion by far while not using held items.
I think most of the hatred is honestly not his fault as a concept, because there’s so much you can do with him in that sense, but by god. The timing and the train wreck of game design that was SWSH, if I was less obsessed with character concepts and story, I’d dislike him too.
First of all, his partner is Charizard. Immediately that’d make a lot of people groan, bc Charizard’s oversaturation and special attention from the company is mind boggling. And then… they revealed the dex cut. ONLY Charizard got to stay, and people were pissed.
That aside they also shot themselves repeatedly in the foot with the game design, and how they basically use Leon as an excuse to prevent you from doing ANYTHING exciting. Logically? It makes sense he’d go and do crisis stuff, and that’s part of why he’s fascinating as a concept (starting as a ten year old, unbeatable champion, he’s basically a player character grown up) BUT FROM A GAME DESIGN STANDPOINT IT’S AWFUL. They don’t commit hard enough to his character to make up for it, either, so you’re in this awkward middle no one liked.
It’s so incredibly funny he raw dogged this tournament tho I still don’t fully believe it 😂 “No items?” They asked and he really said “nah I’d win”. I think it’s pretty indicative of how bad power creep’s gotten that the paradox mons are uncontested winners though…
There’s also the small detail that he looks like a ten year old allowed to dress himself (mans hasn’t been allowed to change his aesthetic for like over a decade 💀) and he’s got a mullet, there’s some people who have a primal anger reaction to that alone 😂
I love videos like this in theory, but was disappointed to see that there was not more details about methodology and no replays showing off interesting moments
yeah i felt the same… throwing all these results at us but like, by what metric? how did the battles go? what AI was used? etc etc.
it’s cool but without context this stuff is ultimately meaningless. glad to see i wasn’t the only one who felt as such.
Would have been nice to at least note why upsets happened, like common x4 weaknesses, immunities, or well-rounded teams.
I think you can check both the results and code used in the description of the video
@@JseanPrimewhere is the battle data stored?
Oh do not get away by calling my volvo
Walmart Cynthia
My volvo doesn't deserve such hate
It’s not Volo’s fault that Milotic isn’t in Hisui
Volo earned those Giratina
Let's give all rematch gym leaders 2-3 pokemon! -Kalos
YOU EVER HEARD OF A CHALLENGE?
I would genuinely love to see how Kalos would rank if they were given actual rematch teams with 5-6 pokemon
Those are actually not proper rematches but battle chateau guests.
The NPCs there only use a maximum of 2 Pokemon, it's a side thing basically.
The Chateau just has it's own rules man.
There's no proper Kalos postgame teams.
If the gen 6 leaders got world tournament style teams, they'd be much higher
Given that everyone was being normalised to level 50 anyway, it would probably have been fairer on the Kalos Elite 4 to give them their four-mon Elite 4 teams over their three-mon Battle Chateau teams, even if the former teams have lower levels.
I mean it wouldn't have helped them out *that* much, but it would be something.
The sad part about some of the Alolan trainers (Kiawe and Mallow) is that they aren't allowed to use the Pokémon they have in the Battle Tree.
I mean... makes perfect sense to me that a Fairy specialist would claim plenty of wins over a much higher ranked dragon specialist, and a grass over a water. Type advantages in the games are harder to duck compared to the show, so that just makes sense. No need for incredulity.
I knew fluttermane would be the strongest trainer. Truly the best trainer of all time.
Idk why, but the "Tate and Liza, not the same person! Who knew?" *Really* got me. I busted up.
Yeah sane it was hilarious, i busted
The fact Blue did better than Red just makes me smile a bit. Such an underdog.
Predicting this at the point of Opal in the video: #1 trainer has to be Champion Iris from B2W2. Dragon biased, so Opal has an advantage, but as well as having diversity covering her weaknesses (like Lapras to hit enemy dragons and an Aggron to take on Ice types), her mons are colossal balls of stats.
This is so clearly bias , I haven't watched the video and I'm quiet sure iris won't do good. She's one of the easier champs and is a mono champ at that
Well tho no 1st, she is gooood
@@hellojimbi5822she’s not a mono type champion at all what are you talking about.
@@andrewdevlin8756 obviously I said that with a grain of salt, half of her team is dragon type and the other half is weak to steel I believe. She very much has way more type overlap than probably any other champion or is very close. Her team also sucks pokemon wise.
@@hellojimbi5822she got ninth place. Actually kind of expected. She really has a more or less balanced team with 6 very strong Pokémon and items. Ninth place is fine for her.
AI Sada is easily one of my favorite Pokemon battles of all time. Awesome music, great team, and a wrap on a fantastic story in a really solid game.
"Element 115" We love you, Pat! Zombies crew misses you, but we love your progress
"with a jumpluff of all things"
Can't be disrespecting Babu like that
25:58 Tore-oh? 26:53 Say-duh?
Their names are Spanish for Future and Past: Futuro and Pasada.
A lot of Pokétubers mispronounce names on purpose to get comments.
See also "The Cyan" becoming "Say Seein"
USUM Ilima is, ironically, kind of a nasty hurdle for ingame playthroughs for where he's at lol
Kid named Mysterial with a team of Mewtwo, Latios, Kyogre, Palkia, Manaphy, and Lugia in the corner.
Dude is banned for obvious reasons.
The moment some of the Gamecube folks were mentioned I thought he'd be at or near the top, maybe behind the AI profs.
Losing to Opal and Cilan even makes sense because his best team does have some overlapping Fairy and Grass weaknesses.
@@kelly_times tbh he used greevil’s pretty bad rematch team instead of his legendary filled first fight. Evice is a lot better but has more doubles centric moves which makes it harder for him. They did a lot better than I expected tbh.
I appreciate seeing Greevil on this list.
Same, when he just got a passing mention I literally did a double take and rewound to make sure I wasn't hearing things
It's nice that he was mentioned, but i'm disappointed that he got his worse team.
Normally one would expect the rematch team to be stronger, but in his case it's the other way around as you literally steal his full team of *7*.
Sure, don't count shadow lugia, fine. But his three birds, which will hit you with always very effective moves (as basically no one else uses shadow pokemon), which can status you, plus some support from his other 3 shadow pokemon... I really think his standing could have been higher with that team, even if they are in the story at a slightly lower level (as they are level locked through being shadow pokemon)
@@primedialgaI think the Shadow teams exclusion is due to their regular moves, if you exclude the obviously broken 'Shadow Type', their purified moveset aren't exactly to right home about.
@@Magma-Idiot-2001 The reason they're excluded (and the way I know this is because I've tried running these simulations before) is because Shadow Pokemon are treated as wild Pokemon for the player to snag, meaning they're fully randomized (including what Ability they have). Even aside from the limitation of not being able to simulate Shadow-type moves, there's no real way to put them into the game faithfully.
@@technetium_et_al true, makes sense.
What confuses me is the lack of the other trainers from Orre, they have competitive teams of their own.
1:58 Bro, ain’t no way her Lucario has heal pulse 💀💀💀
Yes lol
Looks like a typo 😭 cuz the AI will never click the move anyway
If you add Koraidon or Miraidon to AI professor teams, they'd be even more crazy.
But then if you add 2 Giratinas to Volo, im pretty sure he would be breathing down their necks to claim number 1.
@@lewycraft Miraidon Electro Drift go brrr
@@ChampionAzuretf would resisted Electro Drift do to not one but two Giratina?
Sure its Ele Terrain & Hadron Engine boosted but a resisted hit is still halved
So excluding the 2 broken power crept legends from scarlet and violet, the 2 best trainers in the game are the ones considered best in game lore and anime lore. Undefeated champion Leon still almost undefeated
cythea wipes her ass with Leon, its just her team isnt designed for strict rotation play like Alder's and it never was which makes it significantly worse here.
Well that Cynthia has straight up defeated Leon in this definitely fits to the game lore, but Alder makes no sense in either lore.
@@F14thunderhawkyeah they basically had a 3 way tie where Alder beat Cynthia, Cynthia beat Leon, and Leon beat Alder.
I always loved seeing them select from a group of pokeballs in the animes.
YOOOO, MY GIRL GEETA GOT 8TH!!! I swear, I gotta be like the only Geeta fan out there, and I am so happy that she did so well!!!
Fellow Geeta fan spotted 👀 Glad our classy businesswoman ranked so high
Milo's most notable achievement is making it to adulthood without a nose... HOW DOES HE BREATHE
Plot twist: he's actually a ditto
The top 3 (without legendary/Paradox) being Leon, Alder and Cynthia was amazing! Leon because is in character with his lore of being World Champion (like in the anime), Alder because he always being underrated (also the fact of Volcarona being my favorite mon) and Cynthia because of course, it's Cynthia.
Excellent video!
12:25 Well, looks like Tate managed to surpass his sister after all, despite losing to her in the anime!
Sada and Turo being the strongest trainers out of everyone is crazy, but the craziest part is both yield teams they had JUST caught.
Volo being held back by modern battle mechanics (and not having two Giratinas), and *still* ranking _tenth_ goes to show how impressive he is. Without his shock/scare factor, without revenge kills, without *Giratina,* he's still standing at the summit.
I know you said Diantha place was bad but considering the rest of Kalos’ Trainers placements and that fact Diantha doesn’t actually have a rematch team that isn’t just 3 Pokémon. I’m legitimately surprised that she did as well as she did.
"absolutely blowing her dad.... Out of the water" phrasing!
✝️ leaving this here.
did this simulation include all the different generation-specific mechanics? some of these teams the Mega, G-max, and Tera mechanics are very relevant
And that's not mentioning big changes such as pokemon getting stat buffs / nerfs, moves being reworked, types being buffed / nerfed, and while I don't think it was relevant for anyone- the physical special split. Nor even the fact that some types are simply going to have broader, better match ups in a mostly monotype context.
Cheren's Unfezant has Super Luck, is holding a Scope Lens, AND has Air Slash! He's there for the crit ratio lol
0:03 thought ilima was a woman
Gay.
You included the Frontier Brains but not the Subway Bosses? Ingo and Emmet are my favorite trainers and I would love to know how they stack up. Especially seeing how Emmets team works in singles.
Also didn't include most of the rivals, as only Champion & Gym Leader rivals were included for some reason
Also no evil team leaders aside from Giovanni (and Penny if that counts)
Very odd exclusions for sure
@@DeltaZard123Yeah, I was waiting to see where the Rainbow Rocket leaders would end up, but it never happened.
16:13 I stopped the video at the worst possible time and it made it sound like "Absolutely blowing her dad, Koga..."
The most impressive part of the top 2 is that they have:
1. No held items
2. Pretty much no abilities if conditions aren't met
Realistically, if you were to do this, wouldn't you always choose the team with more pokemon, since the levels are evened out for every trainer. Like for example, some of the trainers you chose from X an Y have teams with more Pokémon in them, than the teams you used.
Matching all the levels also makes some "upsets" unsurprising when it comes down to type matchup.
Ironically using the rematch teams for the XY gym leaders makes their teams even WEAKER than the actual gym battle teams, because the battle Chateau facility in XY (where the rematches take place) was designed to be really easy to fight multiple trainers back to back for grinding. I think the only trainer that has more than 2-3 pokemon is Diantha
Flutter Mane is banned for a reason lmfao
I think Steven was never crazy about Pokémon battles.
He was the champion, wdym?
@@charnalk5572 I honestly think he became champ just for fun. His passion is traveling around to get rare stones, he never gushes about training or the beauty of battle like other champs.
@@Schlaym He weirdly enough was the second most involved champion in battles and the general activities in the region.
Doesn't strike me like he doesn't care about Pokemon battle, but looks like he just doesn't like being a champion (he does consider giving up the position to Wallace in ORAS to have more freedom).
As mentioned by the others he obviously had to care to become champ, buuut he cares more about archeology no doubt.
Of course not.
He is crazy about stones.
An all Fairy team beats an all Dragon Team.
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It’s really funny how this goes to show that even the best trainers can randomly struggle against the likes of bugsy. As someone who beat Leon and Cynthia on my second try, and Gardenia on my tenth, I feel that in my soul.
"i think everyone expected turo to be better than sada"
i dont know why you thought that, but the past paradoxes are just stronger. *ESPECIALLY* flutter mane who almost soloes everything ever
Oh, the Fairy specialists hit above their power level against Dragon leaders from games that didn't have Fairy as a type and therefore don't carry coverage for it? What a shocking upset! :P
It's nice to see gen 9 do so well! I tried to keep myself underlevelled and played in the intended order and it was quite tough at some point, overall pretty fun.
I’m genuinely happy to see these results and goes to show paldea is probably the best gen so far
You mean the worst
@@simonepriolono need to hate on it for clapping your favorite gen by a long shot
@@abrahamdominguez8827 obviously it took you two months to answer, you couldn't find a singe redeeming quality about the game to defend them. Pathetic
@@simonepriolo sorry I’m not on TH-cam 24/7 like you but there’s plenty of amazing things this game has going for it and really the only bad things are more nitpicks and not actual things wrong with the game or it’s gameplay
@@abrahamdominguez8827 you're either blind or delusional
If you say that the rematch Geeta's team should've been in the main game as her Champion team, despite her not being the final trainer in the main story, makes little sense in a game design perspective.
Fine for something like a Kaizo or any other BS designed game for veterans, but not for a general audience.
I feel bad for gen 6 / X and Y. It gets a lot of hate in this video... but really it's just the first game *after* gen 5's Pokemon World Tournament. If gens 1-4 were judged by their best teams *in their own games*, they would probably be down on X and Y's level.
It makes sense why a lot of these are up higher you just have to think of type matchups. And how the AI in Pokémon works I would love to see this if done with different AI rather then the games AI. Or with competitive sets of the Pokémon
man i still wish they would use post game teams like that of GEETA in the main story it would make it so much more interesting.
I mean, it's technically a DLC boss fight so it was never going to be in the base game because love me some money
@@charnalk5572 Katy's DLC team was included. Or am I misunderstanding?
@@TheRealLilyOfTheValley Nah, I was saying that Geeta's post game team was technically never part of the base game.
It's not really post game content, it's DLC content, meaning that it was probably never considered before the fanbase's feedback.
@@charnalk5572 en realidad despues de comprar el dlc el equipo del postgame cambia y si pertenece la historia especialmente el disco indigo
...My thing about kalos is that they were originally expecting to make an x2 or y2 game, but couldn't because of a combination of budgeting and time constraints.
11:47 I am ashamed that a dear Cryogonal knows Ice Shard. That’s when you know it’s bad.
"Supplant" means replace, not "establish" as you seem to be using it.
supplant means overthrow, not simply replace
Imagine how many of these teams Mysterial would just 100-0 casually.
I don’t agree with the description of some of these "upsets" maybe they did win against a higher ranked team, but typings matter a lot. Fairy winning against a mostly/all dragon teams is not an upset.
That placement of Larry and Blaine just makes me want to see them team up in a buddy cop-style hijinks adventure together
Imagine Katy with an Ursaluna
The real salty part for number 1 is it's a team with no held items bar 1 and use exclusively attacking moves. Apparently strategy doesn't matter when you just hit hard lol
"Scarlet and Violet are easy games"
Also
"Sada and Turo are the hardest NPCs to beat in Pokémon history."
I think both are correct because honestly every single main series Pokemon game is easy. They are just different levels of easy.
10:01 nice little nod to legendary youtuber Salad
My girl Diantha deserves so much more. Hoping PLZA does enough to make her an Elden Ring boss.
I used to watch your zombies stuff some years back and i had no idea you did pokemon stuff now. This was the 1st pokemon video ive seen of yours and it was very entertaining and i liked the 115 reference to your roots.
Also Sada placing that high is crazy considering flutter mane didnt even have its best move in moonblast.
“Again, with no items.”
Iron Valiant with booster energy: Am I a joke to you?
The main reason illima is the worst is because she effectivly has 2 pokemon. Her Komala is always alseep thanks to comatose, and she doesnt have sleep talk.
I'm happy to see Pokémon Colosseum and XD Gale of Darkness final bosses on this list🎉🎉
I mean honestly, the moment I saw AI turo in the thumbnail, I knew he'd be number 2, and Sada would be number 1
Flutter Mane (Without moonblast mind you), Roaring Moon with Booster Energy and EQ, and then the rest are just really good mon
When you think about it, because this is singles, the ability to outspeed and ohko a pokemon is singlehandedly going to make some fights a wash no matter how many times they're played out., Flutter Mane with Shadow Ball, Brute Bonnet with Sucker Punch, Roaring Moon with EQ, two high crit chance moves, and a safe dragon move (So Outrage wouldn't screw it over getting locked into something). All the pokemon having practically legendary level stats, it makes sense that anyone who doesn't have a legendary or close-to one is just gonna get swept by the frankly overwhelming amount of stats and attacks... Except Alder apparently. But apparently Alder is just Built Different.
Also any team that sets up the sun for Sada (Raihan) just gets domed 100 times over.
Though speaking of Raihan, I REALLY expected him to show up MUCH higher! Like yes, I get that his team has anti-synergy with all the weather shenanigans, but you'd THINK because he has decent mon, and decent coverage, he'd at LEAST manage something better than where he was. Frankly, it's kinda disappointing to see, especially because not but 5 minutes earlier you were talking about how 'coverage is key' and my mind instantly thought "Oh, so Raihan is gonna do pretty well!" And then they didn't even break top 100
Alder though, I mean, WOW. I expected him to be LOW on the champions list, not lowest (Trace has a team made of like, route 1-4 pokemon, no duh it sucked, just had coverage) I expected him to do better than where Steven placed, but worse than where Diantha placed, and I expected THOSE TWO to be reversed placements, I mean Steven's got a Metagross, and an Excadrill! But the EQ problem does make sense for it all I guess. But Alder just, *wow*. I've always been glad he was an interesting character but I never expected him to be top 5 major trainers. With such an odd team too-!
Like imagine if he had optimal sets for everything, screw charti berry, give Volcarona Sitrus or something, give Conkeldurr Guts and a Flame Orb with Fascade, give Krookodile intimidate for sure and stack it with stuff like Knock Off and Aqua Tail, change out the item too, not sure for what but, something, maybe a ground gem, make Chandelure assault vest instead of choice scarf, put Braviary in front of Krookodile to get more intimidates with U-Turn, and this guy coulda been a MENACE, even more so than he apparently was. I genuinely think if he had spent a little more time in the kitchen Alder could have beat Leon, maybe not Turo, and probably not Sada, but DANG he's like, RIGHT THERE-
The fact Braviary doesn't get any value from U-Turn kinda sucks, since I assume the AI calculating it all was just sending them out in order rather than overcomplicating the system, but imagine if he had been played not only at his best but also with the best version of what he had
Sure, if everyone had the best version of what they had the whole thing would be significantly different, but Alder was already SO CLOSE.
Obviously if Leon, Turo, and Sada all just had items, there would probably have been a bigger gap between the top 3 and everyone below, but, still friggen CRAZY dude-
ALDER in the top 5, then Raihan not even in the top 100, and Steven being the second worst champion, and only barely better than someone who's team came off of a kid who doesn't know how to access the PC-
Some of these placements are just wild to me, some are expected, but, some are just absurd.
And the fact Alder went POSITIVE against Cynthia.
I guess it's because Volcarona just sets up in front of Spiritomb who just wants to click shadow ball and sucker punch, then wipes up to Togekiss or Lucario, then the rest just have enough gas in the tank to deal with the remainder most of the time.
Crazy stuff, but super fun. I loved this video XD
Also Kalos' Rematch Battle Chateau Teams are legitimately worse than most of their regular teams lmaooo
The Battle Chateau seems poorly designed. It seems or is supposed to be a place to grind for EXP or money. Because of that, why could the Gym Leaders be in the Battle Mason (I think that's what it's called)?
Yeah I don't know why he put those teams into the simulation instead of their real teams.
My boy Tucker at place #35 despite having ONLY THREE MONS holy heck. lets goooooooooo!!
More evidence to support Leon being the unbeatable Champion that he is. Bravo. 😊
Not the Pokemon battle organizer getting surprised every time the Fairy type trainers keep beating the Dragon type trainers 💀
Number 69 flannery!?!?!? Coinsidence i think not
3:02 that smeargle could of been great because of how broken sketch is
So Leon truly is the strongest champion. You need to come and pull up cracked past and future versions of Pokemon to get higher than him.
“SYLAN” HaS ME DEAD
Also, Sara getting her shit rocked by Opal and Bugsy is now my favorite thing ever.
Leon was the best champion with a level 60 team with no items, is proof of how cracked his team actually is. Lack of team restriction is what makes his fight much easier than Cynthia or Iris.
Dynamax wasn't available in this💀💀💀💀💀
Kind of Crazy. If he had items, he would massively gap the other champions. Unironically, just like how much stronger he is than the other champions canonically.
@@Tina-oq1hy we haven't even gotten to hidden abilities and moveset tweaking yet, Rillaboom and Dragapult would become a problem with a competitive moveset like cynthia and alder have got.
@@Tina-oq1hy Leon canonically isn't stronger than any other named Regional Champion in the actual games lore(all that Monarch nonsense is just an anime only invention while he didn't even participate in the World Tourney of the games, and even in the anime he is tied with Cynthia in stats and somehow lost to a just technically Champion like Ash), and with an actually competitive AI(/competitive players) let alone without unequalized lvls he wouldn't even make it into the Top 10 for Champion versions alone to be frank.
@@gunchar06 In the games, there isn't anything to go off of to compare the champions directly. However, in Sword and Shield Gamefreak tells us Raihan could easily be a champion in another region. So at the very least, Leon is probably at the upper tier. In the anime, there isn't any question, Leon is easily the strongest champion (outside of Ash) both by anime canon statements and feats. It took Ash all his gimmicks and Pikachu friendship to beat Leon, meanwhile he beat Cynthia with only Mega Evolution.
Honestly, I'd like to know how well Wally does in this competition, dude pulls out a nearly OU level team for the final rematch.