People Are Calling The NFL Rigged More Than Ever After AFC & NFC Championship Games | Pat McAfee
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NFL need to force refs to also participate in postgame media to explain their decisions. Would be a great first step at addressing an obvious problem.
Well said. A little accountability will put their feet to the fire
Why would the NFl makes refs answer questions? They're the ones telling them to rig games. Just like pro wrestling. Refs constantly screwing up and never get in trouble.
NBA refs are way worse and if any player criticizes it the NBA silences them quickly
They would just do what the government uniparty does and say " we'll circle back"
@@SouthernSkeptic I agree 100%. If I'm consistently failing at my job, I get fired. Why wouldn't the NFL do the same with their refs unless orders are coming from the top down??
Think America has about as much faith in refs as we do in our politicians
About as much faith as I have in a fart after eating Taco Bell
Sports and politics are both rigged that’s why.
Shots fired!
Well america is much scripted as the nfl💯
@@Mreateat105 the whole world is scripted. They're all in on it.
Anyone remember the infamous "no call" NFC championship game saints vs Rams? The refs all went to a huddle and still didn't make the right call. Very questionable how it all went down. Then the NFL changes the rules so that refs can overturn PI calls and the next year change it back to how it was before.....comon man!
You literally only need 1 ref to be paid off/told to hold a flag or two which can dramatically change a game. A single ref can make sure to call a hold on one team and not another. You dont need "everyone" in on it.
NBA said thats what happened with ole Timmy. I know I dont trust NFL enough to gamble on it.
Yeah the most suspicious thing is how every nfl show won't even consider it being rigged...just bad officiating for the millionth time...oh yeah it looks rigged but that's impossible. Where there is smoke there is fire.🔥
Right? The more they defend it the more guilty it sounds
This is the biggest disconnect. Literally one individual going rogue can effectively alter a whole team's legacy via one ref in the right situation. Get a few more in to try to disguise it and you got an easy scam going.
Exactly. Plus, you also can get leverage over a player or two to do something they otherwise wouldn't. The argument has been the players already make millions why would they do something for the sake of some bet or preference? Well, when lots of money is at stake, someone in control with power can always arrange something. Maybe a player has a crime or scandal in their background that would ruin them if found out. McAfee needs to drop the whole, "SOOO many people would have to be in on it" mantra. He's ULTIMATELY kissing the league's butt (his bread and butter) and flirts with the "controlled opposition" card.
These rumors started years ago. Anyone remember the Saints receiver getting smashed by the Rams guy a full second before the ball got there? Then one ref reached for his flag and the other ran over and waved him off.
Yeah absolutely rigged. That was so blatant it was ridiculous
How about thr dezz catch.
@@allenbass6169 The Dez bryant catch was actually called by Steratore who pat is apparently bringing in to question
As a lifelong saints fan I will never forget
Yes. Everyone remembers. I stopped caring about the NFL for awhile after that.
It might not be %100 rigged but the refs definitely favor teams and blatantly help them
That's what rigging is
That's the quintessential definition of rigging.
Humans have a tendency to become biased. That’s why it’s important to have a group of refs from different places and team favorites
“Your honor I didn’t kill that man I just ended his life” 🤦🏼♂️
its 100% rigged and scripted wwe but with football realism there I said it they pick the SB winner 5 years ahead of schedule
Say you're shilling for the NFL without saying that you're shilling for the NFL
Pat: makes this video
Had a buddy working for an NBA team a few years ago. He told me “when it comes to multibillion dollar games, you’d be crazy to think it was left entirely up to chance.”
So the refs are paid off? If so, why did they call back chiefs touchdowns? Maybe they kneeeeew the cincy linebacker would push Mahomes out of bounds late. Ahhhhh that’s it
Lol.. what’s his name? Liar! People do anything for attention
Tje nba already had a cheating scandal
@@Chad-pc1lr because it wasn't the script. The wanted the injured an fourth quarter comeback
@James , yeah, when there is THAT much money on the line, there is THAT much motive to get certain results. Pretty sound logic there, also paralleled by what one can see in the business world. I can believe it...
Ever since… EVER SINCE online gambling took off, this has become one of the underlying narratives of the NFL. Not a coincidence.
YEP!!! If I was really rich, Id start a new football league that makes referee accountability a top priority. Your ass should be on that hot press conference seat too!!!
You know what's the worst and most sickening about this...? They, the NFL, used to ABHOR gambling!!! They regularly said that betting on games ruined the sport and to keep Las Vegas as far away from teams and the NFL as possible. They literally had an anti-betting/gambling campaign similar to the anti-drug commercials... WELL LOOK WHAT WE HAVE HERE NOWADAYS! FanDuel and DraftKings have exclusive, betting partnerships with the NFL now! What a freaking joke...
I hate that Terry Bradshaw, of all people, before NFL games on Fox is now like, "LOOK HERE, You could win MY money in this suitcase if you go to MGM BETS online and pick the correct team to win!"
NFL officiating has been poor well before gambling took off
Do you think that's cause people are losing money so they're upset?
It's all based on Storylines just like WWE. Espn NFL Network puts out Storylines daily. If anyone doesn't believe You're Asinine and Naive
They had to reclassify professional sports as sports entertainment after the NBA tried to railroad Tim Donaugy and he exposed them rigging games in federal court to avoid violating federal gaming laws. It's no different than the WWE
One difference...WWE had the balls to TELL you that outcomes are predetermined ! The NFL continues to lie about it !
Hasn't the NFL faced similar litigation?
@@jennifersilves4195 the NFL avoided litigation in regards to federal gaming laws by reclassifying as "sports entertainment".
The chiefs weren't merely engineered to beat the Bengals, but the point spread was engineered to obtain the desired result. When you look at the game from that aspect, the rig is super obvious.
Rigged but youll keep watching 😂😂😂😂
@@Chiefs555 yeah because it’s entertainment lmao we watch it but we don’t take it serious
@Young Pablo then why complain? You ever thought of that?
@@Chiefs555 I’m not complaining at all lol just stating the obvious
@@Chiefs555Mahomes is fake - sorry to burst your bubble
Another one that comes to mind is the Saints losing a championship game with one of the worst missed PI calls.
Stop crying. They threw an incomplete pass to stop the clock and got the ball in OT to put the game away
Imagine the Bree’s Brady Super Bowl
The worst call in NFL history
@@andrerodriguez966 I'm a Saints fan, they were 13 points up after the first quarter. Drew Brees is my favourite sportsperson but his ratings for that he playoffs 2017 onwards were in the 90s, not good enough. The play before he had Mike Thomas a yard ahead of Peters in the slot, threw it to his feet.
@@jeffbrumby3442 Yea I remember that play . The Rams got momentum going imo when they went for a fake punt and converted that PI could have gone either way but that being said OT Was Brees time that hit that caused the Interception was brutal and that 50 something yards kick by Greg Zuerllein was epic
Let’s get one thing straight, it’s not just bengals fans saying this
Viking fan and I say so
Giant fans
I'm not a Bengals fan, and that game last night felt so rigged
Lions fan, rigged
Exactly!!
It honestly would not be that hard to rig an NFL game. One or two unnecessary roughnesses could change the outcome quite drastically.
I agree, only takes a few penalties.
@@Chesterd2 yep. And might not even work every time. But it would be like playing chess without help until you have a tough decision. Then you go and ask a chess bot for help. It can increase your playing ability by a lot.
Defensive Holding
Or a bad pass interference call made with 1:30 left on the clock in the fourth quarter with a tie game
@@bradenfox4451 that was a defensive holding call......gave you foreshadowing on that one.
Btw that's how the NFL rigged 28-3 they started to call a boat load of defensive holding calls to help Brady.
I like how pat said the NFL is rigged without saying it’s rigged
He's shooting for more viewers.
It’s true. It couldn’t be more obvious that the league is rigging games and trying to put it off as bad officiating. It’s a front for point shaving and controlling the outcomes of games. the worst thing they ever did was legalize betting across the US. They should have kept it in Vegas but now it’s all over. Vegas/the NFL aren’t going to let hundreds of millions of dollars be left to chance.
I disagree. I think he argued the near impossibility of rigging and the need for fundamental change within how the officiating is handled.
No he didn't. Yall are plum dumb.
But he said? 🤔
The refs are a serious problem not just yesterday but all time.
No they aren’t… the refs are part of a Rigged entertainment business. They are doing what they’ve been told.
They're told what to do, from "New york"
Just ask any Lions fan.
Holding at the line of scrimmage is the most blatant penalty not called most of the time until its late in the game and a certain team has to win.
Or as a player you have to assume the calls are going to be a lot closer in a late game situations so just don’t hold if you can help it
@@olivercrespo2329 have You played the Game?
Or they hold more because they're dead ass tired and it's a huge situation
@@darylhoskins5696 what a moronic thing to say. If you can’t learn something as simple as the rules by watching the game for years then that’s a you problem
There is no holding call for the Chief's.
The nfl and espn supports this platform. Pat would lose everything if he told the truth
And now Pat works with the WWE.. so blatant.
Sounds like you were given a script by the NFL and Vegas and you acted out their message brilliantly.
yea he's a puppet 100%
He does WWE as well
Well said! It was more than just the refs in the afc championship game. The bengals laid down in that game were forced to lose on purpose. I could tell , saw it from the start of the game. The league wants us to believe it was just the refs that made it look suspect but it was more then that. Sad time’s
100% Vegas is in on it. There is way to much money involved. Just have to watch the seahawks vs steelers in 06. Was a disaster of a game from the refs.
I mean honestly. Nobody ever asks the question, if the refs are so bad why aren't they getting fined or fired?
Tim Donaghy is laughing hysterically somewhere at the thought that it would be impossible to 'rig' games in a major sporting league. Get him back on the show and discuss this theory boys.
People always always cry one of two things when THEIR TEAM doesnt win. Either the refs cheated or the game was rigged. FACT! Go ask the Buffalo player is the game rigged!! Some of you people are just stupid. Thousands of people have been involved in the NFL for many yrs and there is no way for not at least 1 person to come forward and claim the game is rigged. There is no way to rehearse all the great plays you have seen in games over the yrs. You cant just go out and act out a football game. Some of you people are just pathetically stupid.
29ft attempts in the fourth quarter alone against my kings. I'll never get over that series.
They're not wrong that basketball is different, though. There's so many more games, he didn't have to rig any particular game. All he had to do was play the odds based on the "points of emphasis."
@@crusherven I expect Pat to shill but why u?
Exactly
Putting an incompetent ref in a major game is almost the same as rigging a game.
At this level of sports betting, nothing is left to chance
If you can bet on it, it can be rigged
.except for wwe....at least they dont lie about it
This is the most logical answer. This is how I approach most "conspiracy theories". When you look at an extremely large event that happens and people I know immediately start claiming ConTheory I just ask them to think about the required amount of people it would require to pull it off. After they've answered or sat there silent long enough it starts getting awkward my next question is "How many people do you know that constantly gossip and just run their mouth constantly?" That is usually when things start to fall apart.
Are there exceptions? Absolutely.
Besides, there were still 8 seconds on the clock. It was still possible the Chiefs could have got another play off and out of bounds with time left on the clock to get Butker closer, and even despite that hit a 62yd FG earlier this season.
Now I wait for the inevitable rush of people commenting that I'm wrong even though I believe that the scenario was possible not a lock. Hell Butker could have shanked the 42yarder on that last kick anyway.
@@BrandonCreeger why would it take more than 2 refs?
@@fuckcensorship69 4 people is all you need to rig a game
They wanted the two black quarterback story
They wanted the Kelce brothers story
They wanted the Andy Reid playing his old team story
I’m done with the nfl
The game is being played at State Farm stadium, who does commercials for State Farm?
No you're not. I thought you said you were done when Kappernick was taking a knee.
@@johnbernacki6155 Aaron Rodgers
EVERYONE should have known the championship games were rigged when they saw Bidens wife sitting next to Roger Goodell. That was a huge red flag.
@@rustylynn2897 Mahomes and Andy Reid
The more times Pat makes a video saying it's not rigged makes me believe that it is rigged
That’s why you should think about it like this. Other pro sports have already been proven to be rigged. So the nfl is rigged until they can prove otherwise
Especially seeing that Pat is working with the WWE, now.. I mean, come on..
You only need ONE ref to blow a game. It literally could take ONE BIG penalty at the right time.
Just look at the TouchdownCeption game. There's only one guy making the wrong call.
They need to give coaches a couple extra challenges and let them challenge horseshit calls the entire 60 minutes of the game
If they challenged all the B.S. calls that I saw, the game would end the next morning.
Yes or have someone review penalties
@@texasstadium I'd rather watch till dawn than see a game get decided by a touching the passer call
I agree..
No. This would slow down the game to be boring. The game is already slow.
The NFL has been rigged for years. The league is just getting more brazen about it as the refs are increasingly deciding high profile games.
The "holding" call in the SB was the worst "call" in SB history. The "hold" didn't impede the receiver's route in any way and Mahomes threw the ball out of the end zone. No more proof is needed than this to show that the refs repeatedly rescued the Chiefs throughout the playoffs.
Has anyone else ever seen a team that gets a new set of downs because someone somewhere didn't hear a whistle.
The NFL is a criminal organization who should be sued into oblivion for defrauding the American people.
Looking at how many times that Chris Jones was held, without any flags, makes me wonder.
There is no shortage of examples of large scale sports becoming corrupt. Just like at soccer.
@Umar Johnson u mean like now?
Look up journalist Jessica Savage and the documentary about the mob controlling NFL games and Vegas and how she died. Coming home from dinner with the Eagles owner. The same Eagles owner that gambled the team away.
You calling it soccer disqualifies you automatically from any debate about the worlds most popular sport with 2 BILLION fans worldwide and no the nfl is not rigged you the refs suck
@@SouthernSkepticHowever it IS the name of the game in the States. This is a podcast with football focus in the States. Kids in the US dont start at an early age playing futbol, they play soccer, then maybe indoor soccer, traveling team soccer, etc. When then does it magically change to futbol????
@@SouthernSkeptic lol sorry. Dude took his post down and my reply defaulted to you. 😋
When Jim Donaghy said the nba told him no fouls on high profile players.... thats just as easy in the NFL that's how
Tim, not Jim.
And he testified that he was told to take it easy on star players, that they were instructed to favor the losing team in the POs to try to extend a series.
He also testified to doing a bunch of stuff for the mafia who was gambling on the games he and 13 other refs officiated. Things the nba didnt tell him t o do but still happened.
Nothing new under the sun. Same sheet different day
My bad "Tim"
Remember Josh Allen not getting a personal foul for the fight he started this playoffs?
It may not be completely rigged but it is definitely manipulated!
The Tuck Rule call; the Dez No-Catch Catch; the Rams No PI vs Saints; the Bounty Bowl (on Brett Fauve by Saints). NFL playoff history is replete with blatant “bad (rigged?) calls”.
I think the Dez “no catch” was just a bad call more than a rigging. The Tuck rule is definitely rigged. Super Bowl XL. I will say, I think this season had at least 4 games rigged by officiating. Both the AFC Championship and the Super Bowl were rigged. And the Commanders-Giants night game and the Falcons Bucs games were rigged. I think the individual refs have someone bet for them on a game and throw a flag here or there to ensure a certain outcome.
Pat works for WWE too lol so this is hilarious.
NFL, “ We absolutely don’t rig games, we just have incompetent referees.”
yea ok one side heard(lied) from🤣🤣🤣
NBA: "We absolutely do not rig games.... we do have some refs who gamble and work for the mafia though.... and sometimes they're instructed to favor a team in the POs just to extend a series, but we never rig the game 7 outcome... we'd never do that, that would be unethical........ okay, well we did do it that one time in the Lakers/Kings series, but thats it.. i think."
NFL= WWE
The refs are doing exactly what they are paid to do.
You guys lose a lot of money gambling huh?
I think that when people say 'rigged' they are referring to the refs specifically rigging games. That's is fairly easy to do and, as stated, has happened in every single sport.
The weakest point in a sporting event is always the officials. They are so easy to sway and control to determine the outcome of the game. We see it in soccer and the 2002 World Cup, we see it in boxing, we see it in baseball, we see it in blatantly basketball, we were shocked to hear a NHL official accidentally say words to indicate game rigging over an open mic. What makes us think this doesn’t happen in the NFL and college football?
It is one thing if you are claiming that players are rigging the games themselves (which, in hockey and football that is very, very hard to do), but it is another to make a claim that officials are rigging the games. One is highly likely, the other is VERY likely.
Man, refs rigging a game, but they are calling back 2 TDs and an INT? Rookies.
The Raiders vs Bucs SB was not about referees, it was about the whole NFL as a league. Tons of proof
@@yolowolf24 what was the 2nd TD that they took back?
@@yolowolf24 doesn’t mean every ref ;)
I don't watch professional sports anymore. The amount of questionable calls is astounding. They definitely need to hold the officials more accountable.
There are about 2 questionable calls per game, which have to be decided in about 10 seconds each. Most are meaningless to the result of the game.
@@hudhinton8243 They do not have to be decided in 10 seconds. WTF? Theyve taken MINUTEs to figure out calls
@@RandallBalls True, but it can't happen with every penalty. I also don't disagree with holding the refs accountable. The NFL does actually rate them for accuracy but the results aren't made public.
Seahawks fans were suggesting this in Superbowl 40, because of the terrible officiating...and we were made fun of.
Are we really expected to believe NFL refs are exempt from greed?
I agree 💯
The refs are just doing what the owners want. The owners would ask for a 32 game season if they could.
I’m surprised nobody talks about how officials really control games and not making it noticeable…..Holding calls. Holding happens on every play yet it’s still a 10 yard penalty for some astronomically idiotic reason. Think about how many scoring drives are stopped because of Holding calls. A Holding call in the 1st quarter can completely flip a game on its head and nobody would notice.
Power trip is a real thing
Bosa was right
It doesn't take that many people to massage the outcome of games. All you really need are the officials. Mainly the head official. Players don't have to be "in on it". Neither do coaches. A well placed bad call can turn the momentum of a team instantly.
Exactly. Massage the results.
It doesn’t take much to gaslight either
As anyone who knows how POINT SHAVING works. You only need 2 guys to pull it off. If you have REFS, who are now being paid good money, they're gonna do what they're TOLD to do by ones holding their leash.
Dude exactly. It just has to be one ref or someone upstairs to say throw the flag. They made the rules they know what will effect the game or turn in the game in someone’s favor. It’s nothing other than what will sell more tickets. Pat mahomes will sell more tickets and get more watchers than Burrow
players are in on it
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd we just witnessed another Super Bowl where the refs decided the outcome
How's that? The NFL has definitely rigged no less than a decent number of games over the years, so I'm not interested in defending them, but this game was clean by all indications (watched because brother was visiting from out of town and he likes to hang out and watch the game).
Seemed to me that the broadcast attempted to stir up some controversy over the holding call at the end, but it was (a) an obvious hold to the eye and (b) James Bradberry, the guy who committed it, said it was definitely a hold, during his press conference after the game. If the guy who did it said he's guilty, it's pretty much case closed.
@@orionsghost9511 Philly had them stopped on 3rd down when the bogus PI was called on an uncatchable ball. They took away any chance of Philly kicking their own field or possibly even getting a TD. There was still 1:40+ left to play. The same thing happened to the Bengals. We might as well be watching professional wrestling
@@rmx01indiana James Bradberry, the CB flagged on the play, said himself that it was a good call. If the guy who got called for it admitted that he not only did it, but additionally that he did it intentionally to prevent a TD because JuJu beat him on the route, than there's really no case that it's a bad call.
The Bengals call was also an obvious and good call (Mahomes being hit late, well out of bounds, which is precisely what the rule says is illegal). I often agree with accusations of cheating, but it's not always the case. I feel like people who became of aware of rigged games are now starting to look with biased eyes and see it in everything. That's going to cause a loss of credibility.
It's the same when people who rightly see real conspiracies than start believing every conspiracy claim put out there (like 5g Covid or Flat Earth). It ends up making an easy strawman to destroy the credibility of the greater case.
@@rmx01indiana "While walking into the locker room after the loss, Bengals linebacker Germaine Pratt was caught on video screaming, “Why the f--- he touch the quarterback?”"
Even Ossai's fellow LB teammate Pratt knew that it was a brutal mistake by Ossai that cost his team that game, not the referee.
@@orionsghost9511 He has to say that or he gets fined 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
what about the NFL commissioner admitting the games are fixed back in 2013 over the Jalen Ramsey tweet during the afc championship game vs the Patriots. " if we wanna give Tom Brady 20 superbowl rings. we'll give him 20 rings".
You forgot one.. Mahomes in the State Farm Stadium for the Super Bowl? It's WWE and you know it McAfee.
You act like mahomes and chiefs are in capable of beating the bengals
@@davidmurray1897 0-4 until that game ….
@@davidmurray1897 They might not have except for the last penalty which CLEARLY happened out of bounds. You realize their last 4 games have been decided by a total of 12 points, right?
@@FeR-kt1jt 0-3. All decided by 3 points.
@@hudhinton8243 what does that even mean it doesn’t matter if their last 4 games were decided by 4 pts they still won and instead of complaining about the refs I remember bengals had the ball with score tied and got 7 yards on a first down run then decided to throw deep on next two plays and then punted instead of moving the ball and getting a first down or running the clock and playing for overtime stop blaming someone else for their mistakes and it was late hit out of bounds period it’s not even close
They don't need hundreds of people in on it. They just need a few head refs to be in on it. They can sway games pretty easy
I doubt it because eventually some officiating crew or players would come out and just blatantly admit it. If not everyone is in on it, a lot of players and officials wouldn't sit well with letting a few ppl rig the game right in front of their face and would eventually come forward
Refs, some coaches, and a few key players.
@@madwilli3205 they already do dude! Where have you been?
@@staciemeyer9649 There is no possible way that, assuming the game is rigged, there are that many people involved. Watergate involved about a dozen people and they couldn't keep their mouths shut for longer than a week.
@@Yyyyyy5 link?
Every Chiefs fan is already on edge finding out Carl Cheffers will be responsible for the Superbowl.
😂😂😂
It's not just Bengal's fans bro it's every fan.
The NBA sports media acted the exact same way before they were ousted.
The media rigs the games. Maximum ratings gets your team into the Super Bowl. Get used to seeing Mahomes in the Super Bowl or the AFC title game as long as the media thinks he's the 3rd coming of Jesus Christ.
@@grousetheghoul2754 or you could face facts and realize he's by far the best QB in the league with a HOF coach and TE. And their GM does an incredible job of drafting guys who contribute in big moments so they're just going to be in the mix every season for the foreseeable future.
@@HeliosWrath it’s easier to hate than appreciate
As a die hard Denver Broncos fan it hurts to say super 50 was the most fixed game I've ever seen especially after Manning came back from being benched. Tom Brady and the Patriots looked like they were trying to lose that afc championship game.
Man! State farm is the main sponsor of this SB. No wonder that had to get mahomes in that game.
I've been saying that the refs are garbage. Then finding out the same ref did last year's Superbowl. The phantom pass interference call on Wilson, I have a screenshot of the incident. Pass thrown behind the receiver, defender's left arm not touching the receiver. Ball gets slapped down. Ram's then scored on 7th and goal. Now, this same ref blew most of the calls, in the AFC championship.
I want to add one more thing... There should be an unlimited number of challenges. Everyone should get 1 free one. And then as long as you have a timeout to use, you can keep using one to challenge. There is nothing wrong with saying "I want the rules to be followed."
That a cool idea honestly the first 1 free would be amazing
It really doesnt make sense if they lose one and win one they are still out of challenges. Your idea is good or at least if you win the challenge you should get it back.
the NFL will never allow that. Slows the game down too much and makes it harder to dictate what they want.
It would not stop refs being crooked. You can challenge if a catch was made, feet inbounds, 1st down spot but the refs don't use those plays to be crooked. Fake roughing the passer, defensive holding, PI and any personal foul is a judgment call and can't be challenged. A few of these bad calls can and do determine who wins and 10 challenges cannot change those bad calls.
Like that catch devonte smith made
an NFL turned WWE guy would know
Watching this after the Super Bowl. Can confirm that nfl is rigged for the chiefs
I do think the NFL does sometimes rig games, but how was this SB rigged? I watched the game, and it was called pretty down the middle - as much as any game I've ever seen.
Penalties could be called on almost every play on either team. It's just a matter of when its called at a certain critical time of the game. Would be very easy to rig a game.
Yes, like under 2 minutes when you can't challenge. Which head ref did last night and did in the Super Bowl last year.
Yes...would be super easy to not call that 'pass interference' that wiped away a third Burrow interception, but somehow they DID call it. Must have just been part of the master 4d chess plan, amarite fellow tin foilers?
Facts
exactly.
especially football where one call can easily and dramatically influence the outcome.
not just bengals fans, every fan except chiefs fans
💯
Real talk
🤣🤣🤣 if that was rigged, why didn't KC convert? That whole situation was meaningless
Facts 💯
@@andrewboyce7268 facts lol Bungle fans mad Joe Burrow got exposed I said it they weren't humble
“There’s no way you can rig an NFL game” 😂😂😂
Bro had the worst take
Straight up clowns 🤡
There’s so much “gombling”sic, that so much monies make it possible
@@mistermr0221 Scared to lose sponsorships/paychecks from espn
What many tend to miss here is the play calling is a big part of this as well. Especially at the end of the games. It’s not just the refs. So yeah, the coaches and offensive coordinators are definitely a part of it. The players just get paid to play and execute whatever call is being made.
The rigged questions should’ve been as loud as they ever could be after the 2019 NFC Championship game.
No doubt. And still no apology or compensation for the worst no call in NFC championship history.
@@gsogden1 bro what they made a whole new rule where you could challenge PI after that year cuz everyone was crying
@@jerrywestington and then IMMEDIATELY changed that rule. That rule no longer exists🤣
One ref could throw crucial flags at the right time to greatly impact the difference in a win or loss or a team covering or not. That only takes 1 person.
Yet what people are saying is the entire NFL is rigged, not some lone wolf.
They have been doing that forever! At least they have challenges now. They did not have that before the 90’s!
Exactly!
And someone must have paid the ref thousands of dollars, if not hundreds of thousands.
Which the IRS, if not the NFL, would notice this income.
And yet there has never been any such evidence of that kind of payment.
Never in the history of rigging has their ever been a time that everyone was in on it just look at the NBA and the ref Tim Donaghy that made bad calls to cover the points spread as exhibit A. All you need to rig games is one referee that’s it.
Search Yt: *Former NFL Player Dwight Smith Exposes NFL For Rigging Games.* Quote from his interview - *"It aint about who has the best team. Football is entertainment."*
I’ve seen so many blown tackles where even me with my handicap could have tackled the receiver or running back. Bad tackle angles over & over as if the defense all the sudden forgot how to tackle. It’s too often not to be just a mistake or bad angle to the runner. That’s just on defense and just one thing. On offense I see interceptions thrown right to the defender WAY TOO MANY TIMES to be just off throws. And they all sign non disclosure agreements. Why is this? What do they not want disclosed?
When they stopped the game and added thirty seconds I told myself if this game comes down to a last second field goal I have questions and sure enough it did
literally resulted in the chiefs getting sacked and punting, had no impact on the game
@@maxsuper8510 yes it did..
Bro you ever watch football?? You know how many games come down to a last second FG?
@@timothykelly2605 yeah I've watched a few games, I'm just saying it raised questions to me about solutions for things like that, look back on the pass interference a few years ago in the saints Rams playoff game. It raised similar questions about rigging. Obviously the true spirit behind a football game could never be rigged but there are questions when any calls or situations like this occur. If that play had happened different who's to say it wouldn't have went to OT due to the clock running out. The game ending the way it did just magnifies the impact of that mishap and questionable officiating as a whole
@@hopeintroubledtimesh.i.t.t6762 Those seconds were supposed to be there.... That's why they replayed the down, the ref mistakenly called for both play clock and game clock to start on his signal after they re-spotted the ball, but it should have only been the play clock starting. Game clock should have started on the snap because the previous play on 2nd down was an incomplete pass.
The Netflix show on Tim Donaghy said it best… he didn’t rig games but he could sway the game 6-8 points! An extra set of downs in the nfl is huge in a close game like this past wkend!
Or picking up a flag after calling PI on the defense.
Bengals just suck. They'd never even rig it in their favor lmao
@@MysticMerry_ once they got the pretty boy QB things gonna change
@@MysticMerry_ said be a Chiefs fan obviously. I’m not a fan of either but your biased is showing. You got slapped by the Bengals last year and you should of lost this year.
@@jeremyg8286 funny thing is I'm not even a damn chiefs fan idiot
Games arent rigged, theyre influenced.
Which makes them rigged. Being influenced just means they can’t get the result they want 100% of the time.
@@billjones8950 which is my point. And why the argument of itd have to be widespread or change every game or have everyone in on it is nonsense. Its a form of doublespeak. They just play semantics games with their denials. And its always laughable watching them and their information arms dance around it once you see it. They start wildly dropping false equivalents and logical fallacies to change the narrative involving such claims.
@@billjones8950 just have to move the needle enough times to load the dice. Thats it.
@@IIIUMlNATI yep. Funny how many pro sports have been proven to be rigged already yet people are still in denial about other sports.
I watch the documentary a couple times but it still blows my mind to think about how the mob literally rig the World Series in like 1903 nearly got away with it
Yet this guy says no can't happen 😂
A world series was rigged! They call it.the Blacksox..not sure what year..but anyway BOTH NFL championship games were 100% rigged and it was funny that Bidens wife was sitting with Roger Goodell while we're talking about rigging.
@@shanethompson7878 He claims "EVERYONE would have to be in on it" NOPE They could easily pay off a few people to keep their mouths shut. It's been done since sporting events began...especially boxing! Phantom punch KOs..Nobody ever talks after getting paid to take a dive..You can lose your job or life or both.
My big thing is undoing bad calls. So many times they make an obviously awful calls and their pride doesn’t let them overturn it
I really hate the argument that "THE ONLY WAY" it could be rigged is if EVERYONE is in on it. I don't think that's true at all, and no one ever elaborates on why every single person would have to be involved.
....also, it doesn't have to be every single game that is rigged either. A lot of games don't matter enough to go through the effort.
It's a phrase people like to repeat when they don't like to rely on independent thinking. It makes little sense but sounds good so they parrot it while hoping desperately that they are right.
The reason you guys don't understand the expression without further explanation is that you don't fully comprehend the complexity of football and all it's moving parts on each play. This is, partly, a consequence of being forced to do "QB watching" on tv because they don't show what's happening on the entire field and also just a lack of football acumen in general.
It’s a logical fallacy
The refs can easily rig games without one player being "in on it". Ask yourself why players get fined if they question the refs calls in post game interviews.
The ref said "GAME CLOCK and Play Clock will start on my signal" when the previous play was an incomplete pass. So it was totally his fault.
All they had to do to fix it was add those 5 seconds back onto the game clock to make up for when it ran before the snap. Dont redo the down! That's ridiculous
Thissss
Of course Pat would deny the nfl being rigged. He benefits from covering the nfl.
"holding calls" are usually the go to to fix a game. They can always call holding, always....they just don't.
Nailed it
the fact that lineman training is essentially "hold them but dont get caught" is incredibly telling
Like the holding call that took away the Chiefs TD yesterday.
Have you ever played football? There’s a hold on every play. The game will never end if you call every single little hold. It’s football. You can make an argument for a PI or Illegal contact on any well covered pass play. It’s too ticky tacky. Gotta only call the obvious ones. It’s how the game works.
@@Brxtnn or not call them depending which outcome they are told the nfl wants. selective officiating? Its possible🤷♂️
That clock issue happened during the Lions and Seahawks game this year. Seahawks got a touchdown on that 5th down.
it also happened during the cowboys/vikings game this season. maher had to make a 60-yard fg twice because the refs were still reviewing the previous play. they even had a full timeout to review it but somehow let the kicking unit onto the field after the timeout and nobody did anything until after the kick was made.
obv it didn't end up mattering because that game was a blowout, but good lord we're seeing all new levels levels of incompetence by the refs this season. they're extraordinarily lucky that none of these bottlegate-esque sequences ended up actually affecting the outcomes.
Thank you NOT just this game. What’s interesting is “rigged” was NOT talked about like this at all when Brady was in his streak.. this is VERY interesting and telling for most people
@@brittneyb444 everyone says brady has the refs in his pockets, that was literally the #1 detractor storyline for like his entire career
@@brittneyb444 Derp… They literally can’t tackle Brady without getting a flag.
I don’t think it’s necessarily the betting side of it that’s causing shady officiating… I think it’s that the NFL now realizes it can craft and control entire narratives around its league. And they’re going to install referees who understand those narratives and are willing to enforce them on the field. All it takes is one phantom call or one blown call every drive or every other drive. Just sprinkle them in enough to where it doesn’t look TOO obvious. But the problem is that it’s become VERY obvious to fans.
Think about how much money is placed on a game. Who would have ever placed a bet on the giants vs Pat's but also being the low of a score. Just takes a few people and one or two refs. The 06 seahawks vs steelers was the worst game ever.
You should do some research on organized crime and Vegas's connection to the NFL.
Yes I bitched about the divisional game last year between LA and Tampa. Brady gets punched and bloody and gets a flag thrown on him???? And all those blatant PI penalties not not called!!! The NFL wanted LA at its home stadium... I was so pissed
How the NFL does not have full time refs is beyond me
because then they would have to hold them accountable and the referee association doesn’t want them to be.
Hell I don't care if they make them full-time just pay them more money than the base salary for a player who sits on the bench most of the season and is a backup. Maybe it would be harder to bribe them.
Just have every call verified by review.
Quick question, what leagues do have full time refs or officials?
A ref that has officiated a super bowl lives in my town and has a law firm.
Needless to say they do a lot of work outside the league.
You actually only need a couple of refs to rig the calls in a game. It’s actually simple. Just skew the calls in one direction at critical times. Literally is all it takes.
Yup 100%. I need people to think about the impact Holding calls have on an NFL game. Holding happens on every play in the NFL yet it’s called sporadically without warning and can absolutely turn a game upside down in an instant. A 10 yard Holding penalty in the 1st quarter can completely change the outcome of a game and nobody notices lol. It’s a smart strategy on their part considering people are stupid and don’t connect the dots.
Exactly. Momentum is huge and when it shifts with a bad call or no call, it makes a big difference
One call. One single massive call can change the entire game
Exactly right.
Seriously.. I love this show but the rhetoric all of them talked about "how many people would need to be onboard" is just pointless. The commish just tells the ref or a couple refs
It would be better if Chiefs goes to super bowl
Nothing else need to happen, it is pretty simple operation. NBA did that NFL does that for sure too
Larry Johnson been telling y'all
I love that everyone is now catching on.
You don’t have to necessarily rig a game. You could however, influence the outcome very easily without having a lot of ppl in on it
Easy .. this video is gas lighting damage control
It takes only one ref, paid a good amount to make a few extra holding calls on one team, to change the outcome of the game.
Just a ref
@@That1guyUlike especially when half the time the pick up the flag and say "after discussion there was no penalty"..no the flag was thrown in case you needed to call something
It doesnt take thousands of people. It only takes a couple refs making calls to change the outcome of a game.
Yeah pat the boys missed on this, they’re acting like it has to be a whole scheme. All it takes is 1 ref, Tim donaghey did it in the nba
Yeah, this huge league wide conspiracy has been cracked by man boobs over here on his couch 😂 sit tf down clown 🤡
This is the point all it takes is a handful of referees main judges not a lot and they To skew games one way or another it doesn't even have to be a lot there's a penalty on every play for them to pick the bengals when they did is asinine and it's proof
There's countless interviews of old mob guys on you tube, saying how all they needed was 1 guy to owe some debt or get in over his head. And that one guy could control fights, college sports and pro sports. It's basically wrestling anymore
And a few paid off players too...and its rigged.
Casinos operating three floors and two escalators from the stadium locker rooms in the same stadium...
Man let's pay that mortgage real quick
it’s amazing how pat played in the league for like a decade and still has no knowledge of football
That solution of "marrying" the referees with the camera review system IS the only way they can fix this problem in the NFL (And probably any other league). Great call Pat.
It wouldn't fix anything. No amount of evidence can fix a conspiracy theorist. People will still be whining and inventing new realities. People will still be bleating the next "NFL=WWE" after they see it on twitter and tik tok.
I feel like that would clash with the accepted saying that “holding happens on every play”. seems like a lose-lose for the NFL
Also I LOVE to do some dental work for Travis Kelce with a 28oz EastWing🔨!!!
@@brownie3454 I would just only allow it for certain types of calls. Holding would not be one of them. Neither would passing interference.
@@randybobandy6522 but PI is one of the most bitched about one especially after Saints Rams. there’s no excuse to not use it for facemasks tho, that’s probably the only purely objective flag that gets missed
Wherever there is gambling, there is cheating!
I realized it was rigged in 2006 when they decided the Steelers won Superbowl XL two weeks before the game.
Conference championship: rigged
Super Bowl: hold my beer
Here’s me, a Saints fan, just laughing at all of this. When it was the worst one sided officiating call in history, we were told “quit crying, should’ve done more to win the game, there was still time that loss is on y’all, etc etc.” now look at everyone. 😂 WE TRIED TO TELL YOU. They put who they want to be in it.
Hope the nfl gets plagued with scandal
Yup same reason the Saints won their super bowl
@@shaunoneil4705 🧢
@@shaunoneil4705 from it being rigged? Nah. If you wanna say it was bc bounty gate, at Least you’d have a leg to stand on. But @ me with this foolishness again
I still think about this quite often. The fact nothing came from that is wild. Nothing more blatant than that call in NFL history. Sorry you had to go through that and sorry bengals fans had to deal with the loss last night. The game was handed to the chiefs
"17 states with out gambling, so that leaves 47 states that aren't gonna get it" well, I don't watch for the math at least
I think Pat can’t deal with the idea that games he played in may have been rigged and he had no idea.
If you are worried about replay, change the rule so that you can challenge anything but only if you have a time out left. Because a time out stops the game for a minute or whatever, which is exactly the same thing as what happens when you challenge.
According to Rich Eisen, if San Francisco called a timeout as they saw the Eagles WR call for a quick play after the no catch. They could see the replays and hopefully the refs see them too and reverse the call. If the refs don't, San Francisco can now call for a challenge and if it successful, they get their timeout back.
Situations are situational though.
@@littlewicky1 Could you imagine a player being smart enough to rush to the line and sucker a team into using a timeout knowing that he actually caught it?
These refs sucked! How many chances did the chiefs need? They definitely tilted the game to the Home team Chiefs. This game is definitely tainted!
@Ray Smith Thats the difference between the head coach teaching the team about situational football. I'm no fan of Bellicheck but he is the best at teaching his team and giving them the freedom to execute.
@@SmittyAZ Yes.
Thank you Pat, too many media outlets have been brushing this off.
He's bringing it up to smash it down with his "Too many people would have to be involved" which is not true.
Of course, they paid the NFL billions to broadcast these games.
he literally listed over 5 examples that happened and in the next breath says it would be idiotic to think its happening.
@@staciemeyer9649 please make your case. Just like Pat asked "how"? There are far too many people and variables involved in the NFL.
@@PrinceAmac BS! One Holding penalty can Ruin a game! And Covid didn’t come from a lab! The Shot doesn’t Kill people with Miocarditas!!! The CIA didn’t kill Kennedy!! Shall I keep going???
I didn't think it was rigged until I saw this video lmao
There is a reason that the NFL punishes players and coaches for questioning game officials!
Let's not forget the superbowl is at the state farm arena. Which pat Mahomes is in all their ads
Good point!!!
It’s the 103rd season State Farm=103 Mahomes is 10-3 in playoffs leading into SB. So much more. There’s no question if it’s rigged!
“They were about to find classified documents on the Bengals sideline.” 😂
😳😂😂
Maybe its not the NFL "rigging" per say, but putting more accountability on these refs is clearly something that needs to be addressed. As Pat said, they can certainly be influenced by outsiders, not necessarily just the NFL.
McAfee was a punter. Peyton Manning used to call them "idiots" for opening like this. They work all week with about 3 guys and the special teams coach.
If McAfee really knew what he was talking about he'd have his own show on ESPN. He was a PUNTER and WWE wrestler. Does Hulk Hogan have an opinion on the NFL? His would be equally as valuable.
@@hudhinton8243 the nfl can be rigged oh well
The refs are in on the rigging so accountability wouldn't change a thing. The refs take their marching orders from the mobsters who run the league. They do or do not throw a flag based on the team the NFL favors.
The way the Jags played down to the Chiefs and the way the Bengals game unfolded, how could anyone but a Chief's fan NOT question the legitimacy of the NFL and that these games are not fixed?
"The NFL is NOT rigged." - SeatGeek, MGM Grand, DraftKings, Caesars Sportsbook, FanDuel, and the list goes on and on...
Add Pat and his media clowns to that list. He’s officially sold his soul
@@GentlemensCage Pat is basically a partner of the NFL. Not official but certainly unofficial.
U forgot the media partners. Corporate media $$$ Fox, ESPN, CBS, Amazon, etc..
@@newagain9964 I’m glad people are finally waking up. Time to gamble on these games knowing that they are scripted
@@GentlemensCage Godell some years ago said NFL creates “storylines”. I interpret it as not a firm script like WWE but tampering is def there and not necessarily in every game.
It doesn't take much. Just a few boarder line calls. A called hold here, a not called hold there. A touchy PI called here, a obvious no PI called. A touchy roughing the QB. It would not be hard to have an (one) official sway a game. It may not guarantee the outcome. But definitely keep it within a point spread. Bring on Donahee and get his opinion....
The NFL is legally deemed "ENTERTAINMENT". It is LEGAL to fix games... It's also a "Non-profit" league. For real... Wake up.
1. The Bengals late hit call was bs.
2. Not even Mahomes could escape uninjured at halftime from that hit during the super bowl without some sort of steroids.
3. Eagles holding call was bs.
My last NFL game ever after 20 years, was that Super Bowl. Bye!
We been seeing signs of rigging over 10 years ago. I don't believe it will change
try over 55. How do you think the Cheats " won " their 1st Super Bowl ?
@@grousetheghoul2754y’all are just delusional
@@grousetheghoul2754 or Joe scrub Namath winning a chip
It has change it's getting much worst
Super Bowl #3
Pat: it would be impossible to rig the NFL because thousands of people would need to be involved
Also Pat: one ref has the ability to easily effect a game
"Dumbest show ever." disclaimer 😂
That’s not rigging tho. Influencing a game and rigging are two different things. If the guy doesn’t push mahomes out then it goes to overtime and who knows wins the game. That’s the problem, the players still have to play and still have to go perform in order to win
A ref influencing the game is the def. of rigged.
@@travisealy3512 Dude a ref controlling a game with calls is the definition of rigged. What are you talking about? Lol
Sold out mouth piece doing damage control
5:33 me and the boys making a shopping list for the party tonight.