Can someone explain what chaos nick could ever have in his life? He litteraly goes from his couch ,to the kitchen then to the gym all day everyday lmao
@Amar1338 - and so it should! Coaches can't get away from behaviour like this, especially given how much they will charge and that this is an athlete's career and even life 🧬 on the line.
i think nick wasnt looking good enough to win and matt talked him out of competing so matt didnt look bad when nick didnt place top 5. its all about reputation and if you think matt cares about nick youre crazy. its all about money
There was no way Nick was gonna win His bubble gut looked worst last show he did He bubble gut looked huge in training footage & in interview he did saying he isn’t competing
Years ago, I remember hearing that Jansen had a good source for legit, american made, pharm gh that was fairly priced...and that was the reason guys went with him. They didn't go with him for the coaching, they went with him for his source. Those aren't my words..but I would consider the source to be legitimate.
Nick took too much insulin and GH. Simply messed up his physique. He needs to speak to Roelly; the only person ever to come back from that kind of damage.
Dennis James said once the only thing rolley did was eating way to much junk, Landing in the Hospital and Couldn't eat much before that Show for weeks hahah
Roelly was a notoriously lazy bodybuilder who relied entirely on genetics and drug response, and later on let some perverse rich arab experiment with his body for a hobby (for those who are slow, I'm referring to the clowns at Oxygen) and blew back up because of the insane amount of drugs they pushed.
I can definitely see Brett Wilkin doing his own program. He also brought up his “traveling issues” but it was definitely communication issue like Phil said.
@@AntoineVaillantWasnt coached by Matt obviously but dude I miss Luke Sandoe so fucking much. He's like the Mac Miller of bodybuilding. I'll never get over his loss.
Why's Samson's wife gotta catch strays? "I'm sure she did a great job coaching him, BUT he's a genetic freak so it's not saying much". Like, what? Samson has historically struggled with conditioning and looked his worst during his last time working with Milos. His wife helped him do what other coaches couldn't. She doesn't deserve a backhanded compliment like that. Also, I get that this guy Quinton does not like Matt, but threatening the guy and admitting to it ain't a good look.
Yeah true, I think that came out badly but what he was getting at (at least how I looked at it) was that the other Olympia coaches are not actually at the top level of coaching, and as an example, Samson daudas wife just made improvements to Samson that other bodybuilding coaches couldn’t make. So what he’s basically saying is hey she did an amazing job but she’s not supposed to be a guru like these other guys, and these other guys are routinely f*cking up and bringing athletes in bad condition or flat etc. so it is still a slight dig against his wife but I don’t think Phil meant it how you said, moreso he was digging at the other top level Olympia coaches “gurus”.
As far as the threatening thing goes though you’re right, it’s a bad look, and it also tells you this guy is probably biased. So hey it might all be truthful, but he did admit he’s no friend of Matt and he hates him, so at least he disclosed the bias.
I’m a huge Samson fan but from some talks and even from samsons own mouth he struggled to adhere to his coaches plan. Would snack and drink gatorades ect in his prep and over carb up thinking his flat.. his wife was with him 24/7 and was able to keep that under control.. so yes she was able to do what others couldn’t and that’s keep Samson on plan. To say she’s got coach status isn’t true I don’t believe she would be able to jump in and get others to win a show. She knows Samson well and not knocking them cos together they made a great team and I’m super glad he won the title I predicted he would and hoped I was right!
There are several things Quinton said that really stuck out to me. 1. He was 320 & still fairly lean for that size & Matt pushed him to get heavier/fatter when Quinton's health should be the #1 concern at that size & secondly the elasticity of the skin. 2. Samson beat Nick when he was ripped to the bone but a little flat & Samson wasn't ripped but cut, huge & shapely. Knowing he competed in Texas & Tampa at (Let's say 265) common sense would say Quinton needs to leave for the contest at least around 278 pounds before pulling water/carb loading after such a long off-season. With the added supps towards the end it's probable to maintain bodyweight while changing the composition. I'm not a coach but these are common sense things that would go through my mind as a coach. Aceto says the scale does matter as it's one important way to determine if things are going in the right direction. Quinton is 100% right. There is no excuse for such a major blunder. His pics about a month or a month & a half out where he was much bigger with slight striations in his glutes would have been a much better look after dropping water than what he displayed on stage in N.Y.
Dave palumbo speculated it was fake hear on his own. I never heard Matt say that Nick had fake gear in a video. At least not in the original video they made announcing he was pulling out.
If you are coaching the best in the world, wouldn’t you have everything tested? I appreciate you can’t test every bottle but some random tests, this is everything these guys live for!!
Exactly...if you use the gear regularly you should know when sonething is up. I know I would. The coach should encurage the cliant to test also. At that level and whats on the line the message is should be from the coach...TEST YOUR GEAR no exception.
Exactly I'm sure Nick gets his labs done alot during prep. Also after any long/short ester in your system is gone you start to feel it. Maybe not primo or mast but test and tren for sure you know if its fake. I cant speak to Gh thats to expensive for me to play with.
it’s not always outright nothing in the vial. many times it’s underdosed or it’s test/mast blend instead of just mast or dbol instead of anavar etc to make it cheaper
@@ethanbecker1578that’s a common misconception that gets regurgitated , usually by the fucks that aren’t even on gear. I’ve been on test for years and have done a few blasts in between that so I actually do this shit ( the topic in discussion ) and even underground labs aren’t doing that shit circa 2024. With how fast the internet moves it simply wouldn’t make sense financially / logically from ANY company trying to make money. You DO realize janoshik literally exist right ? The fuck are you even on about. Do you even know what janoshik is ? If you don’t then you clearly don’t have a fucking clue in this world / space / community. You need to give janoshik a google search & do a BASIC 5 minute skim read to see how uneducated your comment is. Quit talking out of your ass / ego , you’re literally telling people wrong information.
Im a critical care RN involved in the industry. I see some very unsafe practices taught by individuals using their affiliation with Jansen as credentials... riding clout of popularity and influence. Genuinely over promising and underdelivering - taking advantage of the unaware. The list is long of complaints of unsatisfied clients from the camp jansen crew - very much supporting what Viz is saying. I am also fuled by an overwhelming moral and ethical code... agreeing this needs to be said! Fake gear is detectable, and the consequences of it is preventable - serial lab work does not lie..
@uwotm9375 text messages, whats app, lab work, & PERSONAL EXPERIENCE/WITNESS on multiple accounts. athletes are seeking their own help! Look shoot the messenger all you want but no one's seeking validation or looking to convince. Facts are facts. Some people front to "care" about their athletes and some actually stand on it.
A good coach is not somebody who only coaches the genetic Elite it's somebody who takes someone who does not have great genetics and actually helps them to achieve more
FINALLY! Someone says The truth. Need more truth and responsibility in our iron sport, especially if it comes to athletes Health and career. Stop fake coaches who relays only on PED's!
Take everything Phil says with a grain of salt because dude REEKS of bias. He said it himself at 33:40. Clearly, Jansen made some mistakes. But Phil is literally saying he didn’t watch Nick and Matt’s withdrawal video because it irritates him…but he’s gonna come on and talk (smack talk) for 36 minutes while not being completely informed…He might have a laundry list of talking points on Matt…but that statement says it all. For clarity, I believe these coaching errors are Matt’s fault
Saying that he isn’t completely informed, by not watching that BS video is far from accurate. That video is nothing but BS.! Matt is not a good coach. It’s that simple. He doesn’t care about the athlete and his tactics are not working. Needs to take a lot of responsibility in this having a coach or not he is a professional bodybuilder who should’ve known that not he was definitely showing high bulk not contest prep. Those two clowns are made for each other and hope they both disappear in 2025
It is same for Hany Rambod too, same way of doing business. Find someone who is already gifted, hard working, has future in the sport and coach him....
Hany takes top performing guys and helps them get an extra polish, but he does it safely. Nobody ever coached by Hany got sick or worse working with him.
Yes, but he is an actual exception to the rule. Whatever he does, they do something different. His athletes get that premium looking skin texture and fullness with often premium leaness.
I remember listening to GEAR’d up back in the day 2014-2016ish with Adam mcvey (rip) & Phil viz. I’d tune in every week , it was a real podcast before these bodybuilding podcasts became popular.
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According to Fouad almost all of the pros have the same source for gear, which makes sense to me. I would imagine a few sources have cornered the market other than those in other countries/continents.
@@AntoineVaillant He left Matt for Chad but that only lasted a few months before he re-united with Matt and he passed shortly after. I don't believe he was with Chad for enough time for the damage to be caused by him personally.
@@sebastianconstantin5176 I believe around 2 months? Chad talk's about his time with Dallas in the Valuetainment interview on youtube if you want all the details, it's pretty eye opening if it's all true.
Chad was talking about it on one podcast, what state was Dallas in when he started to coach him, that he wanted him to stop take stuff and heal first etc etc .
Quinton should go with Milos , Samson before he got with Milos didn't have the size and struggled to win the big pro shows , structure wise Quinton is very similar to Samson .Milos uses Insulin in his supplements protocol. Believe this is one of the ways Samson gained the size
Bodybuilding Coaches in 2O24: 1) Samson Dauda's WIFE 2) Hany Rambod 2) Neil Hill 2) Patrick Tuor 3) Stefan Kienzl 4) EVERYONE ELSE 5) Milos Sarcev 5) Chris Cormier 5) Chris Aceto 6) Matt Jansen 7) Chad Nicholls
I’d put Stefan over hany this year. 2 AC wins with Wes, surprise of the year with Martin (who coulda beat Derek) urs who brought his all time best as well. Hany 100% didn’t produce this year unlike Stefan who killed it with everyone
25:41 this is my first pod listen of you Antoine and it’s great! I will say tho about Hany that it’s not easy to peak Chris bc of his aut-immune disease and his sometimes injuries. It was also impressive what he did with Derek bc Derek was on a slight downward path in 212 before Hany coached him to “champ-champ” status. But as y’all mentioned, coaching has a lot to do with Psychology, which Hany thrives in.
I would rather have the coach with terrible genetics that made it to a regional level than a coach with phenomenal genetics that made it to a national level, regional needs to have every aspect locked in where as phenomenal can get away with plenty mistakes.
Agree with everything stated in this video. As someone that has helped guide athletes...truth is, NO one should be coaching or submitting to someone to be a race horse and blindly trusting another person in this sport. Athletes should only be relying on themselves as far as what they take and don't take in terms of pharmacology and dieting. The only person they should be relying on is a good training partner or a solid trainer. [edit photos and a good set of mirrors). It's just another expense that most bodybuilders don't even need. Not trying to mess up anyones business, but it's true. People need to stop being so tight lipped when being silent only allows for dangerous and sometimes life threatening protocols are being pushed. What people need is confidence in themselves and the willingness to do their due diligence in terms of drug use. Be safe gentleman.
@@shonuffLA Truth. Look. It isn’t that hard. Any one of us could be a coach prep guru if we put our minds to it. If you know how to talk the talk you know the in’s and out’s of the bodybuilding scene you could do the same all you need is one person to give advice to and then another and they tell someone and so on and so on. A little social media magic and little self marketing and that’s it. It isn’t hard. So. A Ms Olympia competitor circa 2006-2008 and I used to be pals. She hired Hany. He sends his info via Excel and she let me skim his outline. Post workout meal: 40g of whey hydro followed by 7oz lean steak w/ 7oz of carb of choice 1/2 cup of green veggies. Final meal of the day was 8oz salmon w/ veggies. WTF is so groundbreaking about that? You just have to be a salesmen.
Hany has a degree in biochemistry. He has serious knowledge about exact dosages and when to take them. And doing it safely as possible. Training and diet is pretty much the same for most of the pros.
@@shonuffLAall the coaches seem so shady to me. I’ve honestly been around my fair share of sketchy people in my life, so I feel like I have a decent eye for identifying them, and the entire fitness industry has so many weirdos lol
Remember that up until last year it was a norm that athletes of Matt never missed. We never saw Clarida or Nick out of shape. So now one bad year from his athletes makes him a bad coach?
@@Pp-sr4cs Of course but the final decision is that of the athlete. NO ONE makes you take it. If I think that my coach is giving me harmful advice I do not take the drugs THEN criticize him. I simply refuse and change coach. And; Nick has been abusing all his life why is it that now its bothering him? I love Nick dont get me wrong but lets say what muse be said here mate.
@@alexattardg4s975 Idk if you were around athletes and especially bodybuilders, as it's not as easy to tell if your coach is good or bad, especially based on one bad fluke, or so it seems at the time. Ofc in the end the fault falls on both, but in this case especially when he seems to gaslight his athletes, the guy just seems like an egomaniac. As I've said on some posts, he wanted that McCarvers family would re-do his autopsy because "he could not believe he did that" but it seems like he wanted to clear his name. As per abuse, there are different levels of it. You can push it, abuse it and go to absurd levels when you flirt with death. Maybe Jansen is not as bad as he seems, on a further thought I'd say he's sociopathic and just doesn't give a damn about his clients. The way he talked about Nick pulling out made no sense.
The gear being fake should never be a concern amongst top pros. I mean come on really? If it came down to a coach telling you that, roid kit that shit and screen shot the results put the ball back in their court
Funny too since when Phil coached Sebastian burka to a disappointing placing at nationals they blamed fake gear. Seb said in his post show youtube video he had been using fake gear since his last show a year and half prior but they were somehow unaware until 8 weeks out
While Chad was working with Dallas, Chad questioned Dallas on his health problems and Chad is the one who pressed Dallas on seeing a Doctor , stop pushing himself so hard, to stop pushing the limits while having health problems that need to be taking care of and that lead to Dallas finding another Coach who would NOT question Dallas on his health. Dallas cared more about Size and Winning thinking he was Young enough it would not effect him.
Nick posted a leg video this weekend and from the waist down his legs looked great and he did not seem to have any health issues. I speculate they have blown out his midsection to an embarrassing point. His distended belly was bad in the NY Pro and he barely beat Martin Fitzwater. I wonder if his midsection got worse to a point that it was going to be a bad showing.
Seems odd to me that Phil has to tell and try to convince people how good of a person he is . Maybe I’m wrong, but just odd to me. All the guys I know that are standup dudes don’t have to tell you.
Mel has Coached for years and she Coached samson before milos. She's aphenomenal coach. That statement was based on no knowledge of her career phil you owe her a massive apology
Not illegal to post receipts, but remember what these fake ass gurus and supplement company owners banded together and did to Nick Trigili when he was exposing these clowns😂😂😂
@@justsayin5084 I saw a little bit but I didnt feel it was my place to tell him anything and I dont think Q would have changed anything tbh! I just saw Quinton tonight and talked more about the whole thing
It deserves to be mentioned that Matt is not the only coach who only picks genetic freaks who are destined to be great; does Hany not do the same thing? When's the last time he worked with someone not in the top 3 already?
What day in bodybuilding history was it that someone for the first time decided they needed a coach? Dorian didn’t have a coach. The guys back in the day did not have a coach. How many times has Nick moved back-and-forth across the country in the last year or two? It seems like in general he is in disarray. I’ve been a big fan of his since day one but I’m just calling it like I’m observing it. If he wants to rely on a coach and chase the most important title in the world, then why doesn’t he work with Chris Aceto or Hany ?
So true man Matt has yet to bring not a genetic freak to the top. He just markets himself to these genetic freaks and takes way too much credit as a coach for being the reason they look great.
Correction: Matt never said publicly that Nick had fake gear. Only athletes mentioned this. Dave assumed it in one of his videos also
It was said to Nick and behind the scenes. I realized that once I said it, but didn’t wanna reveal my sources. But he 100% said it.
Boston Loyd was calling out Jansen for years on all of the same issues.
And for boning his wife
I’ve been waiting for someone to say this
Leo and Bostin!
Bostin always called him a Creep or Creepy Matt 😂
He definitely did
I love matts take..”nick thrives on chaos, when we got him calm his body didnt respond”. Nigga WHAT??
If thats the case Matt shoulda thrown some crack in Nicks car and called the cops. Chaos achievement, Olympia victory imminent.
😂
Can someone explain what chaos nick could ever have in his life? He litteraly goes from his couch ,to the kitchen then to the gym all day everyday lmao
Exactly what I thought who says that???!
@@squattilupuke2435He considers people criticising him on instagram "chaos"
Good! Athletes need to be calling out this sort of BS.
Funny how they downplay the importance of gear but blame the fake gear when athletes are not in shape.
After tonight dudes stock has tanked . Quintons message has blown up .
@Amar1338 - and so it should! Coaches can't get away from behaviour like this, especially given how much they will charge and that this is an athlete's career and even life 🧬 on the line.
i think nick wasnt looking good enough to win and matt talked him out of competing so matt didnt look bad when nick didnt place top 5. its all about reputation and if you think matt cares about nick youre crazy. its all about money
There was no way Nick was gonna win
His bubble gut looked worst last show he did
He bubble gut looked huge in training footage & in interview he did saying he isn’t competing
Bingo
Years ago, I remember hearing that Jansen had a good source for legit, american made, pharm gh that was fairly priced...and that was the reason guys went with him. They didn't go with him for the coaching, they went with him for his source. Those aren't my words..but I would consider the source to be legitimate.
Nick took too much insulin and GH. Simply messed up his physique. He needs to speak to Roelly; the only person ever to come back from that kind of damage.
Ben Pakulski did. Form extended to deep vacuum
Dennis James said once the only thing rolley did was eating way to much junk, Landing in the Hospital and Couldn't eat much before that Show for weeks hahah
Jansen avoids insulin in his protocols
This is some made up 💩
Those who said it cant be done should watch
Roelly, bpak and also morgan aste when he did the arnold in 2020.
Roelly was a notoriously lazy bodybuilder who relied entirely on genetics and drug response, and later on let some perverse rich arab experiment with his body for a hobby (for those who are slow, I'm referring to the clowns at Oxygen) and blew back up because of the insane amount of drugs they pushed.
I can definitely see Brett Wilkin doing his own program. He also brought up his “traveling issues” but it was definitely communication issue like Phil said.
REMEMBER Dallas Mccarver
RIP i loved the guy
@@AntoineVaillantWasnt coached by Matt obviously but dude I miss Luke Sandoe so fucking much. He's like the Mac Miller of bodybuilding. I'll never get over his loss.
@@HimboVeganthe mac miller of bb??? How so 😂
@@HimboVeganMatt coached Dallas literally named his kid after him
Dallas had underlying conditions.. let his memory rest in peace no need to bring that up.
Dave Palumbo testing kits vid upcoming....
Hahaha
🤣🤣🤣
😂 Dave all about those roid test kids. He needs to give Nick a code. Lol
Seriously, if someone thinks their gear is fake why wouldn't they test it to be certain?
@@ericjames7819 the fake gear thing is a red herring Matt wants ppl to believe, his guys were just off. they didn't all take fake gear lol
Why's Samson's wife gotta catch strays? "I'm sure she did a great job coaching him, BUT he's a genetic freak so it's not saying much". Like, what? Samson has historically struggled with conditioning and looked his worst during his last time working with Milos. His wife helped him do what other coaches couldn't. She doesn't deserve a backhanded compliment like that. Also, I get that this guy Quinton does not like Matt, but threatening the guy and admitting to it ain't a good look.
Yeah true, I think that came out badly but what he was getting at (at least how I looked at it) was that the other Olympia coaches are not actually at the top level of coaching, and as an example, Samson daudas wife just made improvements to Samson that other bodybuilding coaches couldn’t make. So what he’s basically saying is hey she did an amazing job but she’s not supposed to be a guru like these other guys, and these other guys are routinely f*cking up and bringing athletes in bad condition or flat etc. so it is still a slight dig against his wife but I don’t think Phil meant it how you said, moreso he was digging at the other top level Olympia coaches “gurus”.
As far as the threatening thing goes though you’re right, it’s a bad look, and it also tells you this guy is probably biased. So hey it might all be truthful, but he did admit he’s no friend of Matt and he hates him, so at least he disclosed the bias.
I’m a huge Samson fan but from some talks and even from samsons own mouth he struggled to adhere to his coaches plan. Would snack and drink gatorades ect in his prep and over carb up thinking his flat.. his wife was with him 24/7 and was able to keep that under control.. so yes she was able to do what others couldn’t and that’s keep Samson on plan. To say she’s got coach status isn’t true I don’t believe she would be able to jump in and get others to win a show. She knows Samson well and not knocking them cos together they made a great team and I’m super glad he won the title I predicted he would and hoped I was right!
@@lockatarRemember that English is not Samson's first language. We're not like you people.
@@oooooba8343 Lmao, bro sees a black guy and insinuates they're african
There are several things Quinton said that really stuck out to me. 1. He was 320 & still fairly lean for that size & Matt pushed him to get heavier/fatter when Quinton's health should be the #1 concern at that size & secondly the elasticity of the skin. 2. Samson beat Nick when he was ripped to the bone but a little flat & Samson wasn't ripped but cut, huge & shapely. Knowing he competed in Texas & Tampa at (Let's say 265) common sense would say Quinton needs to leave for the contest at least around 278 pounds before pulling water/carb loading after such a long off-season. With the added supps towards the end it's probable to maintain bodyweight while changing the composition. I'm not a coach but these are common sense things that would go through my mind as a coach. Aceto says the scale does matter as it's one important way to determine if things are going in the right direction. Quinton is 100% right. There is no excuse for such a major blunder. His pics about a month or a month & a half out where he was much bigger with slight striations in his glutes would have been a much better look after dropping water than what he displayed on stage in N.Y.
Dave palumbo speculated it was fake hear on his own. I never heard Matt say that Nick had fake gear in a video. At least not in the original video they made announcing he was pulling out.
Finally someone got it!,🤝
Correct. Dude on the right has no clue 😂. How embarrassing….
Palumbo trying g to sell his bunk testers.
Ian Valliere was unbeatable as Cbums coach not that Iain is a bad coach but genetics matter , Phil Viz not lying..
If you are coaching the best in the world, wouldn’t you have everything tested? I appreciate you can’t test every bottle but some random tests, this is everything these guys live for!!
exactly my thoughts.
Word!
Especially if you think something may be fake, you're going to test it.
Exactly...if you use the gear regularly you should know when sonething is up. I know I would. The coach should encurage the cliant to test also. At that level and whats on the line the message is should be from the coach...TEST YOUR GEAR no exception.
@@Sam-gy4mx all these pros say they get bloodwork. if your gear was fake youd see it in bloodwork
"My dog could've prepped Phil Heath" LMFAO that was funny
I got fake gear once. I only used it for a few weeks because my blood work told me it was fake.
Exactly I'm sure Nick gets his labs done alot during prep. Also after any long/short ester in your system is gone you start to feel it. Maybe not primo or mast but test and tren for sure you know if its fake. I cant speak to Gh thats to expensive for me to play with.
it’s not always outright nothing in the vial. many times it’s underdosed or it’s test/mast blend instead of just mast or dbol instead of anavar etc to make it cheaper
@@Sam-gy4mx neither Nick Nor Matt spoke about fake gear,man!
It was Dave from RX
@@ethanbecker1578that’s a common misconception that gets regurgitated , usually by the fucks that aren’t even on gear. I’ve been on test for years and have done a few blasts in between that so I actually do this shit ( the topic in discussion ) and even underground labs aren’t doing that shit circa 2024. With how fast the internet moves it simply wouldn’t make sense financially / logically from ANY company trying to make money. You DO realize janoshik literally exist right ? The fuck are you even on about. Do you even know what janoshik is ? If you don’t then you clearly don’t have a fucking clue in this world / space / community. You need to give janoshik a google search & do a BASIC 5 minute skim read to see how uneducated your comment is. Quit talking out of your ass / ego , you’re literally telling people wrong information.
Keep the vids coming AV! Keep bringing in the guests to man, you connect very well w people.
Im a critical care RN involved in the industry. I see some very unsafe practices taught by individuals using their affiliation with Jansen as credentials... riding clout of popularity and influence. Genuinely over promising and underdelivering - taking advantage of the unaware. The list is long of complaints of unsatisfied clients from the camp jansen crew - very much supporting what Viz is saying. I am also fuled by an overwhelming moral and ethical code... agreeing this needs to be said! Fake gear is detectable, and the consequences of it is preventable - serial lab work does not lie..
"I see some very unsafe practices taught by individuals using their affiliation with Jansen as credentials"
Drop the names or stfu
@@uwotm9375 i bet he didnt see anything at all
If anyone is listening, avoid Nick Trigili as a "coach"!
@@ALT3REDB3ASTwhat did Trigili do
@uwotm9375 text messages, whats app, lab work, & PERSONAL EXPERIENCE/WITNESS on multiple accounts. athletes are seeking their own help! Look shoot the messenger all you want but no one's seeking validation or looking to convince. Facts are facts. Some people front to "care" about their athletes and some actually stand on it.
A good coach is not somebody who only coaches the genetic Elite it's somebody who takes someone who does not have great genetics and actually helps them to achieve more
Yep I think Belichick needs to lead a HS team to a national title before we consider him great.
Eh Hany Rambod
@@TheArchives-o9f exactly
FINALLY! Someone says The truth. Need more truth and responsibility in our iron sport, especially if it comes to athletes Health and career. Stop fake coaches who relays only on PED's!
Take everything Phil says with a grain of salt because dude REEKS of bias. He said it himself at 33:40. Clearly, Jansen made some mistakes. But Phil is literally saying he didn’t watch Nick and Matt’s withdrawal video because it irritates him…but he’s gonna come on and talk (smack talk) for 36 minutes while not being completely informed…He might have a laundry list of talking points on Matt…but that statement says it all. For clarity, I believe these coaching errors are Matt’s fault
Saying that he isn’t completely informed, by not watching that BS video is far from accurate. That video is nothing but BS.! Matt is not a good coach. It’s that simple. He doesn’t care about the athlete and his tactics are not working. Needs to take a lot of responsibility in this having a coach or not he is a professional bodybuilder who should’ve known that not he was definitely showing high bulk not contest prep. Those two clowns are made for each other and hope they both disappear in 2025
Gear’d Up is by far the best bodybuilding podcast. Would love for it to comeback.
Adam McVey passed away
@@TriStarArmory What????
@@paulfrancis8764a while ago.
Matt didnt mention "Fake gear" !!
It was Dave WHO made a video speculating about it..
Yes I didnt know if Matt mentioned it or not officially
attention seeker, you don't need to do one sentence per line
@@AntoineVaillanthe didn’t mention it.
Coaches and Gurus are snakes.
Some, yes.
But not all.
Aceto is good , Nicholls if you can handle the protocol, Farah is unreal ! , boss is the best and Samson's wife is my fav .@@shanosoxide
@@shanosoxideand milos !
Most of them are dealers except it was fake gear
I love how the trainer of current Mr. O is his wife xD
Great podcast Antoine. Would be awesome to get Coach Greg on the podcast to talk about this same subject. Even if all 3 of you jump on a podcast 🙌🙌
It is same for Hany Rambod too, same way of doing business. Find someone who is already gifted, hard working, has future in the sport and coach him....
Hany takes top performing guys and helps them get an extra polish, but he does it safely. Nobody ever coached by Hany got sick or worse working with him.
Yes, but he is an actual exception to the rule. Whatever he does, they do something different. His athletes get that premium looking skin texture and fullness with often premium leaness.
I remember listening to GEAR’d up back in the day 2014-2016ish with Adam mcvey (rip) & Phil viz. I’d tune in every week , it was a real podcast before these bodybuilding podcasts became popular.
If your "coach" is a kid, you don't have a coach, you have a dealer. Simple as that. It baffles me how the top 5% of Pro's still use kids as a plug.
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important to know. Im gonna runt his through Chat GPT to make sure if it ever comes to this!
According to Fouad almost all of the pros have the same source for gear, which makes sense to me. I would imagine a few sources have cornered the market other than those in other countries/continents.
I'd love it if the source turns out to be Mike O'Hearn.😂
@@vlada Lmao
Which website????
@@MeLoNHeAd00 gnc
∆ narc ?
Palumbo knows all about fake gear because he used to sell it.😆
Genos as well...😂😂
how do you know palumbo sold fake gear can you reply with a link to the proof??
@@nocappp8430he told it himself numerous times in his videos
@@nocappp8430he literally went to jail for6 months for selling fake GH
Please have Phil Viz on more. I love his shit talking.
Good podcast! Was nice getting Antoine’s thoughts knowing he’s friends with Quinton. Thanks guys! ✨💫☺️💯👍
You're killing it AV!
Factual Correction: Dallas McCarver had switched coaches from Matt Jansen to Chad Nichols prior to his death.
Pinning this, if true just wanted to correct myself I thought Jansen was his only trainer
@@AntoineVaillant He left Matt for Chad but that only lasted a few months before he re-united with Matt and he passed shortly after. I don't believe he was with Chad for enough time for the damage to be caused by him personally.
@@Semphis thx, that was my next question, how long he been with Chad.
@@sebastianconstantin5176
I believe around 2 months?
Chad talk's about his time with Dallas in the Valuetainment interview on youtube if you want all the details, it's pretty eye opening if it's all true.
Chad was talking about it on one podcast, what state was Dallas in when he started to coach him, that he wanted him to stop take stuff and heal first etc etc .
Quinton should go with Milos , Samson before he got with Milos didn't have the size and struggled to win the big pro shows , structure wise Quinton is very similar to Samson .Milos uses Insulin in his supplements protocol. Believe this is one of the ways Samson gained the size
Bodybuilding Coaches in 2O24:
1) Samson Dauda's WIFE
2) Hany Rambod
2) Neil Hill
2) Patrick Tuor
3) Stefan Kienzl
4) EVERYONE ELSE
5) Milos Sarcev
5) Chris Cormier
5) Chris Aceto
6) Matt Jansen
7) Chad Nicholls
Dorian Hamilton.
Squatlikechow (Ben Chow, coached Hunter Labrada to Olympia this year.)
solid list
@@R00P3ben is a fantastic coach 👏🏼
I’d put Stefan over hany this year. 2 AC wins with Wes, surprise of the year with Martin (who coulda beat Derek) urs who brought his all time best as well. Hany 100% didn’t produce this year unlike Stefan who killed it with everyone
Jansen never said it was fake gear online, they were both very vague.
He told quint not nick...no pro is getting fake gear..Matt can't own up to that he fuvked up
@@Amansssandhu5555 Antione was speaking in the context of the Nick situation.
Watch Quint's video first
@@Amansssandhu5555some pros get fake gear dude lol
@@philnull I have thats how I arrived here. Matt Jansen hasn't publicly said it as far as I know.
25:41 this is my first pod listen of you Antoine and it’s great! I will say tho about Hany that it’s not easy to peak Chris bc of his aut-immune disease and his sometimes injuries. It was also impressive what he did with Derek bc Derek was on a slight downward path in 212 before Hany coached him to “champ-champ” status. But as y’all mentioned, coaching has a lot to do with Psychology, which Hany thrives in.
I believe Hany is a great coach personally
thanks bro!
@@AntoineVaillant 🤝💪✊🔥
I would rather have the coach with terrible genetics that made it to a regional level than a coach with phenomenal genetics that made it to a national level, regional needs to have every aspect locked in where as phenomenal can get away with plenty mistakes.
Look at the guys that are having all the issues cause of what Matt is doing to them Bret quint nick. Dallas passed away Shawn looked a lot smaller.
Agree with everything stated in this video.
As someone that has helped guide athletes...truth is, NO one should be coaching or submitting to someone to be a race horse and blindly trusting another person in this sport.
Athletes should only be relying on themselves as far as what they take and don't take in terms of pharmacology and dieting. The only person they should be relying on is a good training partner or a solid trainer. [edit photos and a good set of mirrors).
It's just another expense that most bodybuilders don't even need.
Not trying to mess up anyones business, but it's true. People need to stop being so tight lipped when being silent only allows for dangerous and sometimes life threatening protocols are being pushed.
What people need is confidence in themselves and the willingness to do their due diligence in terms of drug use.
Be safe gentleman.
As soon as Phil said people in Canada I knew the lab he was talking about 😂
Really cool host.good show.happy for Quinton,he's going places
He told Justin his gear was fake
We switched gear sources and saw drastic improvements in my physique. He caught that and made the right call. Fake/bad gear is a thing. It happens.
@@JustinShier saw you in chicago when you won last year! it was fucking awesome!!
@@JustinShier it happens to at least 11 other athletes, with a coach at this level? That isn't the excuse you think it is
@@JustinShier when was this because you’ve always looked great
@@TetrAggro 11 other athletes? WHO are they? Don't believe everything you hear with No clue at all 😂
nobody emphasized bloodwork and scans until dallas died. we can thank matt for that
great show i will watch the next for sure 💪
Hahaha GEAR’D Up reference at 14min! Love ya, Phil.
I remember those days!
RIP Adam McVey😢
Great work guys.
They ALL latch onto genetic freaks with good work ethic.
Hany, for example.
The whole “coach” thing is such a scam.
I mainly think they are just a dealer or have connections for the best gear etc
@@shonuffLA
Truth. Look. It isn’t that hard. Any one of us could be a coach prep guru if we put our minds to it.
If you know how to talk the talk you know the in’s and out’s of the bodybuilding scene you could do the same all you need is one person to give advice to and then another and they tell someone and so on and so on.
A little social media magic and little self marketing and that’s it.
It isn’t hard.
So. A Ms Olympia competitor circa 2006-2008 and I used to be pals. She hired Hany. He sends his info via Excel and she let me skim his outline.
Post workout meal: 40g of whey hydro followed by 7oz lean steak w/ 7oz of carb of choice 1/2 cup of green veggies.
Final meal of the day was 8oz salmon w/ veggies.
WTF is so groundbreaking about that?
You just have to be a salesmen.
Hany has a degree in biochemistry. He has serious knowledge about exact dosages and when to take them. And doing it safely as possible. Training and diet is pretty much the same for most of the pros.
@@shonuffLAall the coaches seem so shady to me. I’ve honestly been around my fair share of sketchy people in my life, so I feel like I have a decent eye for identifying them, and the entire fitness industry has so many weirdos lol
When you hear things often you tend to believe it?! How’s about the phrase, “safe and effective?”
This is making the rounds 😁
Matt is probably done
If quint stayed longer Matt wouldve named his next kid after him
If Jansen has another son, we can expect him to be named Brett or Justin
Brett looks about the same as before he took the year off … but I guess that’s not the same since he was recovering from his gut issues
Remember that up until last year it was a norm that athletes of Matt never missed. We never saw Clarida or Nick out of shape. So now one bad year from his athletes makes him a bad coach?
Fast moving time
Abuse isn't the same as missing the mark
@@Pp-sr4cs Of course but the final decision is that of the athlete. NO ONE makes you take it. If I think that my coach is giving me harmful advice I do not take the drugs THEN criticize him. I simply refuse and change coach.
And; Nick has been abusing all his life why is it that now its bothering him? I love Nick dont get me wrong but lets say what muse be said here mate.
@@alexattardg4s975 Idk if you were around athletes and especially bodybuilders, as it's not as easy to tell if your coach is good or bad, especially based on one bad fluke, or so it seems at the time. Ofc in the end the fault falls on both, but in this case especially when he seems to gaslight his athletes, the guy just seems like an egomaniac. As I've said on some posts, he wanted that McCarvers family would re-do his autopsy because "he could not believe he did that" but it seems like he wanted to clear his name.
As per abuse, there are different levels of it. You can push it, abuse it and go to absurd levels when you flirt with death. Maybe Jansen is not as bad as he seems, on a further thought I'd say he's sociopathic and just doesn't give a damn about his clients. The way he talked about Nick pulling out made no sense.
Curious on Nicks thoughts honestly - I feel like he will be trying a new coach soon or do it himself.
Doubt he would try doing it himself lol
I think modern pros rely way too much on ‘coaches’, ‘gurus’, whatever you want to call them.
Phil do not post screenshots without asking the other person in the screenshot if they’re ok with it.
Yes and yessss i love this exposing him finally !!!!!!!!! Beastwood started the legit thing to do !
Phil is my hero!!! The Viz is the Shiz!
After this video, the past cpl weeks I’ve been watching and following his training sessions and his training methods and I’m on board! Solid coach!
The gear being fake should never be a concern amongst top pros. I mean come on really? If it came down to a coach telling you that, roid kit that shit and screen shot the results put the ball back in their court
Goodbye Jansen.
#1:45 OK where's the gear from . ?????? Please tell
Another “Spill Viz” exclusive
Funny too since when Phil coached Sebastian burka to a disappointing placing at nationals they blamed fake gear. Seb said in his post show youtube video he had been using fake gear since his last show a year and half prior but they were somehow unaware until 8 weeks out
I like this props for telling the truth. Quintin is a great dude
Quinton mentioned he isn’t feeling a pump anymore, I’d be very worried about that.. fake gear, or real.. something there throws a red flag immediately
Nick left Matt once before already…
He confirmed he not with Matt anymore
@@joenaps104 he will come back if the next coach tells him not to blast his face off and focus on health. Like last time...
Which lab ?
Nicholls was cleaning Dallas out and he went back to matt !
“Anyone can peak Lunsford” ….did you even watch his old shows? He was a water buffalo quite often.
Yeah that’s a bad take
While Chad was working with Dallas, Chad questioned Dallas on his health problems and Chad is the one who pressed Dallas on seeing a Doctor , stop pushing himself so hard, to stop pushing the limits while having health problems that need to be taking care of and that lead to Dallas finding another Coach who would NOT question Dallas on his health. Dallas cared more about Size and Winning thinking he was Young enough it would not effect him.
“Is Matt Jansen the Bill Cosby of fitness?” 😭😭😭😭
RIP Bunkjansen same crap with Nick Talker.
Nick posted a leg video this weekend and from the waist down his legs looked great and he did not seem to have any health issues. I speculate they have blown out his midsection to an embarrassing point. His distended belly was bad in the NY Pro and he barely beat Martin Fitzwater. I wonder if his midsection got worse to a point that it was going to be a bad showing.
Seems odd to me that Phil has to tell and try to convince people how good of a person he is . Maybe I’m wrong, but just odd to me. All the guys I know that are standup dudes don’t have to tell you.
I think that’s what all the Olympia Gurus should do instead of just show us genetic freaks
King Kamali said this few years back get a nobody and turn him into Olympia
Hany Rambod has left the chat
@@TheArchives-o9fwho did he bring up?
@@buffetline2605 I don’t know anyone he ever brought that why I say he left the chat
love it!
Mel has Coached for years and she Coached samson before milos. She's aphenomenal coach. That statement was based on no knowledge of her career phil you owe her a massive apology
You just described bleu Taylor….. makes
Freaks outta geeks 💪🏼💪🏼
who is the guy in this video with AV?
Not illegal to post receipts, but remember what these fake ass gurus and supplement company owners banded together and did to Nick Trigili when he was exposing these clowns😂😂😂
Antoine and everyone at HD gym didn't see Quinton was getting small and not up to standard for the show?
You all hyped him up.
Antoine only wants to push his channel,i guess 😅
@@justsayin5084 I saw a little bit but I didnt feel it was my place to tell him anything and I dont think Q would have changed anything tbh! I just saw Quinton tonight and talked more about the whole thing
That’s why Matt Porter was the best coach. He took average Joes and turned them into pros
Glad some one telling the truth
I have had great gear and underdosed and I knew within 2 weeks if my gear was legit. If it was underdosed I stopped using it.
This guy seems like he really hates jensen
💯 something personal
Phil Viz loves to hate!
It would help explain why he wouldn't train nick for that arnold if he was limited on real Gear
It deserves to be mentioned that Matt is not the only coach who only picks genetic freaks who are destined to be great; does Hany not do the same thing? When's the last time he worked with someone not in the top 3 already?
Phil Viz looks like Bradley Martyn and also seems to carry his mannerisms too. Crazy.
A top 10 pro getting fake gear???????? Most BS thing I ever heard.
i always thought antoine looked good. loved him back in the mike johnson days
What day in bodybuilding history was it that someone for the first time decided they needed a coach? Dorian didn’t have a coach. The guys back in the day did not have a coach. How many times has Nick moved back-and-forth across the country in the last year or two? It seems like in general he is in disarray. I’ve been a big fan of his since day one but I’m just calling it like I’m observing it. If he wants to rely on a coach and chase the most important title in the world, then why doesn’t he work with Chris Aceto or Hany ?
So called gurus-coaches need to GO ASAP!!!
Jansen never said anything about fake gear in the video where he was saying nick is out of the Olympia..
Matt should drop his pros and just stay with his business!
So true man Matt has yet to bring not a genetic freak to the top. He just markets himself to these genetic freaks and takes way too much credit as a coach for being the reason they look great.
The dominoes are falling. This is Matt's downfall in real time lmao.