@@filmcomicsexplainedyes congratulations. I started watching you when you were around 120k subs. You have definitely earned your subs, the channel just gets better and better. Much deserved.
Just 10 hours before, I commented on your other video to do the breakdown for Prophecy, and 10 hours after you show up with it, Thank you for not overlooking this series 🤓
@@multechpro7151 yep, I commented on his 6 hour Dune video to do it at night, and morning here it was, I wouldn't say exactly 10 hours, plus minus a few mins
Seeing the Machine wars at the beginning was amazing I was always fascinated by that part of the Dune stories I hope we get rt to see more of it and more flashbacks to Butlerian Jihad
@@spencers4121 yeah, as a Frank purist I hate it with passion... it was humans vs humans with machines that wanted to enslave other humans, not that Brian & Anderson matrix nonsense
Theory: Hart is a ghola. It makes sense the Tleilaxu would try to mess up the influence of both Richese from Ix and the "soothsayer sisters". Would explain is fire powers. However it still doesn't make sense (for the universe) that he could burn Kasha in another place in the galaxy. Unless it's a type of slow-acting poison...
Problem with that is that Duncan was the first ghola that was able to recover the memories of the past life. I kind of leaning toward a face dancer. As for the burning, I’m tossing darts in the dark and thinking an Ixian-produced weapon, maybe some kind of nanite, with a time delay in Kasha’s case.
One of the great things about shows and movies on an IP like Dune is that all of the incredibly intelligent channels come out with reviews and perspectives. It’s great. So many different ideas I never would’ve known about it’s like having a full length inside look. This was a fantastic review of the episode but for about the 3rd or 4th time I hear that the scene at the club was not necessary, etc.. why??? I thought it was cool. A little cosmic sex to break up the monotony is always fun especially some good old fashion sex(with the exception of spice being involved)
Hail Niyat, God Emperor of TH-cam! 😅 Love ya buddy. I think I'm more high on this series (for now) than some other streamers who's opinions I'm generally in line with. Look forward to more thanks dude🤙
A really great video. I haven't seen any of this but I love all the movie versions. During lockdown I got into audiobooks and the first Dune novel is the only Frank Herbert one I have listened to so far. I did listen to the Brian Herbert Atredies novel and wasn't impressed. I watched your Butlerian Jihad video and was enthralled by your storytelling. I went on to give the first Butlerian Jihad a chance and really liked it. I love lore and being able to get my teeth around the origins of something is really important.
25:04 I love that you said this about the club scene. It was really disjointing and was one of the many things that made me lose interest in watching the series. I'll just watch you cover it and thank you for doing it! ❤
So there’s also the constant refrence to those mysterious glowing eyes and unintelligible voice. I personally think it could be Ominous. Also how the burning began seems like it’s meant to burn the victim inside out
She says Tyrant, Leto II was called the tyrant. The wide glowing blue eyes could be him as the worm. He took over the sisterhoods breeding program, giving immunity to domination by prescient rulers for humanity.
@@spencers4121 oh yes I have no doubt about Leto II being the one reference in conversation. However based on how gargled and almost metallic the voice sounds suggests otherwise. I also can’t get out of my head specifically Clairby from Chapterhouse either. The way his mechanical eyes were described very similar to my recollection.
6:55 She didn't establish the school on Wallach IX. The school was initially on Rossak. This school was closed by Emperor Roderick Corrino. Afterwards, The Sisterhood secretly took refuge on the abandoned planet, Wallach IX, to reestablish themselves. This is in "Sisterhood of Dune".
The ghola Hayt was the first ghola that the Tleilaxu successfully unlocked genetic memories in when they were able to unlock the memories of Duncan Idaho in Dune Messiah.
Imagine how much valia would freak out if vorian comes back to troll her; she assumes he's dead, but it would be hilarious if he came because of the serum he got, he ages really slowly. Doubt it would happen but it would be great.
I wonder if we will got another big budget Dune movie trilogy set after Paul Atreides and about his future children. To me it makes more sense to continue going with big movies or even shows set after Paul. But I’d also like to see a new big 200-250 million $ movie or trilogy showing the battles of humanity vs thinking machines.
We do know that several hundred years go by after Children of Dune and Puals son becomes the immortal god emperor who is a animorphic sandworm. The Empire is stable but under a harsh regime and DUNE itself has been terraformed to the extent that the great worms have become an endangered species. Think a rebellion happens. In all the books Duncan Idaho is a important character a ghoula that is one of the few that is able to constantly retain his originals host memories essentially being a perfect clone. This is very important in the last books. I think anyone would love to see a trilogy of the DUNE Sage set during the war between humanity and the thinking machines.
Episode 1 of Warhammer 10K was pretty good - I enjoyed it. I liked when Ragnar showed up, but I don't really understand how he has such unfettered access to the Kingsman, Merlin.
Great visuals but if he can kill ppl remotely from another planet couldn't he just burn all of the Sisterhood and be done with it lol like why let them live amd give them an opportunity to develop countermeasures? Guess it's just a plothole but it's pretty big and hard to overlook. Let's see if they can make this more sensible in episode 2
As a fan of the extended universe I'm all for this. If the people watching this are confused because they only read Frank Herbert's books. You got some research to do. Enjoy the ride!
I read an article where the author tried to make the connection that HBO was game of thrones-ing The story of dune obviously not realizing that political intrigue and machinations are at the heart of the dune story. I really hope more people don't see it this way
I'm a fan of the Dune films, including Dune (1984), but the idea of a family vendetta, because of what someone said 10,000 years ago, is absurd. To put that into perspective, 10,000 years is equivalent to 500 generations, taking us back to the end of the last glacial period, when much of the northern hemisphere was covered in vast ice-sheets, and Pleistocene megafauna roamed the landscape. To put it into further context, the War of the Roses, fought between 1455 and 1487, devastated the two dynasties involved, yet within the lifetimes of those involved, peace and reconciliation was achieved. The idea that the House of Lancaster, and the House of York would still be fighting in 10,000 years time is truly ridiculous, and undermines what I've always been told is great storytelling by Frank Herbert. Individuals might be stupid, and bear a personal grudge, but their stupidity usually dies with them. Vendettas, or blood feuds might be a thing within primitive tribes, but the clue is in the word 'primitive'. The Great Houses of the Landsraad are not primitive tribes, but part of a highly sophisticated space faring civilisation. If anything, it shows that Frank Herbert fundamentally does not understand human nature, and our extraordinary capacity to forgive, compromise, and move on. Frank Herbert clearly didn't understand the meaning of love, in its broadest definition, and I now understand why he was unable to finish the story. He didn't know how to finish the story...
Finally, I find this comment. I must agree - generational strife and recalcitrant animosity can only go on so long: peaks beget troughs beget peaks, over the vastness of time. I try to allow for it, and find some way to suspend my disbelief so that I can buy into the vast narrative. (And I do see that Herbert's story expresses well how a given group or family is never quite all 'good' or 'bad' - but rather, unknowably complex and dynamic, as in George R.R. Martin's reflection of humanity.) But in no universe, no reality, no fathomed narrative of humanity, can ANY extreme remain for so, SO long. Pendulum arms do not suspend themselves indefinitely, high up on one side. The gravity of the situation eventually moves them the other way. And a multi-generational conflict eventually metamorphosizes into a different reality- as surely as it begins in the first place. By the way: I do suspect that EVERYONE who gets into the Dune story, whatsoever, is faced with their own reflexive internal skepticism, when they must first confront what they're being told in this story - that these two great houses have been so entrenched, for so long - it just doesn't make fundamental SENSE to a grown human reader, possessing decent intelligence, that this is a plausible plot point.
Good point tho if i was to find a reason for 10000yrs war would be since its between different planets probably different galaxies so having on big war amongst them would lead to a long time on no contact and misinformation plus its the future its easy to spread a narrative and have everyone believe in it
@@josephnarvaez9507 Many years, yes - THAT'S established. As is many generations - But not 10,000+ years. But I acknowledge that being isolated to separate entire planets could extend that simmering acrimony - a further extension of separate nations' centuries-long resentment. But with no periods of the pendulum EVER swinging strongly the other way _(many_ times, even?) - in 10,000 years?
Regarding A.I. I believe we could for sure use it to help aid things on earth and definitely when it comes to space travel. I don’t like the idea of using AI in war and definitely don’t want to see it be used with humanoid machines to take over doing the jobs we don’t like doing. I feel it could definitely be used to help with government efficiency and discovering new Medication to heal or cure disease. And most importantly for space travel
Frank Herbert wrote next to nothing on AI or the butlerian jihad. What we do know was it wasn't so much AI, it was other people using AI to enslave humanity. It was Brian and Kevin, that wrote the fan fiction about the AI. Plenty of core Dune fans, would argue they never followed his fathers notes like they claim. As his son has never released the outline / notes for the last book.
@@spencers4121 seeing all the lies and powers struggle among the great House. I wonder if actually they just creating a lie that the AI try to enslave human but in reality they fear that AI will decentralize all government and render the ruling class obsolete.
@@spencers4121thats why God Emperor of Dune literally references thinking machines.....I've never met a dune fan who hates the Jihad, its usually just old heads who's own head canon got destroyed which explains why it's such a minority but vocal group that hates it
The worms just produce the spice, the Fremen consider them God. The spice is what gives humans the ability to see the future, and past. More then likely the glowing blue eyes she sees on her death bed, and calls him tyrant,. Is the God Emperor Leto II Paul's son, who takes over the sisterhoods breeding program. And introduces the gene to stop prescience.
The problem with these big budget shows is we kinda wanna see more action. I mean the big sets and acting are good but it's just people talking with a cool background. GOT HOD, The walking dead, Rome, even the Penguin are all guilty of this trend.
"fuck story I just want explosions" this is why modern shows and movies suck, none of them have story or even believable characters because 99.9% of it is just fighting
See I can’t stand Dune antifuturism. If you’ve had a conversation with your boss who insists you use pencil and paper instead of Excel to make a half hour job a three hour job; you do not understand how ridiculous and offensive Dune position is on this. People telling you wasting time is self improvement and good character is insanity.
Dune isn't antifuture so much as it is anti-specialization and anti-reliance. The entire human race has a cultural revolution where they set their PC's on fire and toss calculators out the window and smugly declare themselves safe and whole again by reverting to neofeudalism. Their overt-reliance on automation suddenly replaced by overt-reliance on a single commodity. Dune is ultimately pro-choice, not pro-destiny or pro-luddite.
watching them introduce the sisterhood as a bunch of girl bosses instead of you know....the bene gesserit was sad.... I mean these are suppose to be women who have access to their entire maternal line of genetic memory back to the beginning of humanity...not just some women who use religion and sex to game ppl
and then I remember this is brought to you by the same people who changed the ending of Dune II to erase the spacing guild, alia, the ending of the spice production via the fremen cisterns, and made a bene gessirt an emotional wreck I guess because she's a woman...even tho she would have been taught from birth to harness and control her emotions as BG to the point where she literally can choose the sex of her babies via her hormone release hence ..Paul..... Oh and they deleted Leto II..and made Chani into whatever that character was...strong female moron ? i dont know she's suppose to be his first disiciple like Mary to Jesus instead they have her pulling a full Thomas and being a cunt like Paul
thats.....that's literally what Frank wrote them to be? and they still have access to their mothers memory? not all Sisters undergo the Agony, and it's pretty heavily stated that *only reverend mothers have access to Other memory* not every sister the Bene Gesserit were always written like this, they were always power brokers in the Imperium. also how are they girl bosses? each of of them is shown to undergo years of training before even being allowed to be a Sister and years more to be a Reverand Mother
They can hardly be the BG as we know them 10 000 years from now. That's kind of the point with showing their origins. 🙄 And it's an elite group of highly trained women. If you have an issue with that you'll have to take it up with Frank Herbert.
The Jihad just ended and they already have The Voice? I thought it would take generations of honing. And how did they travel after the machines were gone without the guild?
Correction: Desmond Hart is an original character CREATED BY FANS OF RAISED BY WOLVES. Hart is the exact same character as Caleb/Marcus in Raised by Wolves played by the same actor, lol.
You mean Emily Watson? I must agree. Simply not the best casting, too soft a face to express a Harkonnen reverend mother's sharp, knowing intellect and her force of presence. And the students' actors seemed soft and featureless and uninteresting - not like you'd imagine them in your mind. They'd be unique young talents with textured personalities and character and intelligence - not 2024 teenagers from a Hollywood casting call.
I cannot wait for the series to end so that I can watch a 10 hours long Dune Prophecy video by FilmComicsExplained.
Me too 🎉
Don't get your hopes up too much first episode was not good, at all. The writing and casting choice was underwhelming.
Why not just watch it YOURSELF? Since you say you can’t wait, that way you won’t have to. How’s that for ‘random logic’?
@DailyDoseOfRandomLogic in which Niat will get like 40% wrong and I will have to correct him in the comments.
@DailyDoseOfRandomLogic 12 to 15 hours to be thorough at least. So much detail to cover. Not Kidding!
the most clear, detailed lore, story, and breakdown on dune i found on yt
1 million subs, man, it's about time. Much deserved. I know it's been a while, but i love to see it
Thanks James! I appreciate it buddy
@@filmcomicsexplainedyes congratulations. I started watching you when you were around 120k subs. You have definitely earned your subs, the channel just gets better and better. Much deserved.
Just 10 hours before, I commented on your other video to do the breakdown for Prophecy, and 10 hours after you show up with it, Thank you for not overlooking this series 🤓
The prophecy came true
Planets must be aligned . So 10 hours earlier u asked for a review and then exactly 10 hours later he made a review? What a coincidence
@@multechpro7151 yep, I commented on his 6 hour Dune video to do it at night, and morning here it was, I wouldn't say exactly 10 hours, plus minus a few mins
Gotta love how Travis plays loony zealots SO well!
it's that crazed look and half head cock that gets me, bro just embodies a zealot given a duty
Seeing the Machine wars at the beginning was amazing I was always fascinated by that part of the Dune stories I hope we get rt to see more of it and more flashbacks to Butlerian Jihad
I think they said we would get more flashback stuff, personally never cared for it. Was basically fan fiction from Brian and Kevin.
@@spencers4121 yeah, as a Frank purist I hate it with passion... it was humans vs humans with machines that wanted to enslave other humans, not that Brian & Anderson matrix nonsense
Loved the first episode. I liked the idea that folks were saying that the two blue dots we see in the vision were possibly Leto II Eyes😮
You mean Paul's eyes
@@z4ngetsub4nk4idefinitely not Paul's. They talk of a tyrant which was one of letos names. That being said, I think it's omnius and Erasmus
Sorry you meant Leto the second 😂 I misunderstood
@@z4ngetsub4nk4ino problem 💯
@@AllyourBase3 Pretty sure it's Leto II, they called him the tyrant. And he took over the breeding program from the sisterhood.
0:07 is that the insane guy from Raised by Wolves?
Yeah it is😂
The bald dude is in tons of movies.
He stepped off the set for RBW and right onto dune.
@@AllyourBase3 Made the same comment the other on another video lol.
Now he's the insane guy in dune
Theory:
Hart is a ghola. It makes sense the Tleilaxu would try to mess up the influence of both Richese from Ix and the "soothsayer sisters". Would explain is fire powers. However it still doesn't make sense (for the universe) that he could burn Kasha in another place in the galaxy. Unless it's a type of slow-acting poison...
I think there may be a second agent infiltrated in the sisterhood. Maybe one of the acolytes with unexplained pasts and lineages
Problem with that is that Duncan was the first ghola that was able to recover the memories of the past life. I kind of leaning toward a face dancer. As for the burning, I’m tossing darts in the dark and thinking an Ixian-produced weapon, maybe some kind of nanite, with a time delay in Kasha’s case.
I would guess Desmond is a Face Dancer but the BG does not have the ability to perceive this yet. In Heretics of Dune they can.
One of the great things about shows and movies on an IP like Dune is that all of the incredibly intelligent channels come out with reviews and perspectives. It’s great. So many different ideas I never would’ve known about it’s like having a full length inside look. This was a fantastic review of the episode but for about the 3rd or 4th time I hear that the scene at the club was not necessary, etc.. why??? I thought it was cool. A little cosmic sex to break up the monotony is always fun especially some good old fashion sex(with the exception of spice being involved)
Congratulations on a million subs!!🎉🎉🎉
Thank you!!
Keep these videos coming bro! Lore is deep and people don’t know!
I really enjoy your breakdown of everything Dune
I love space Ragnar lothbrok 🥰
Sadly this was like hundred times more interesting to listen to than watching the actual first episode.
Desmond swallowed mother's eyes, that's why he has necromancer type powers.
I know this reference! I know this reference!
Can't wait to see the Bene Tleilax in this series. Hope they are the other power challenging the sisterhood.
Hail Niyat, God Emperor of TH-cam! 😅 Love ya buddy. I think I'm more high on this series (for now) than some other streamers who's opinions I'm generally in line with. Look forward to more thanks dude🤙
A really great video. I haven't seen any of this but I love all the movie versions. During lockdown I got into audiobooks and the first Dune novel is the only Frank Herbert one I have listened to so far. I did listen to the Brian Herbert Atredies novel and wasn't impressed. I watched your Butlerian Jihad video and was enthralled by your storytelling. I went on to give the first Butlerian Jihad a chance and really liked it. I love lore and being able to get my teeth around the origins of something is really important.
I love that this came out after I rewatched your Butlerian Jihad video again
Thank you! That first episode left a lot unexplained, but you've fixed that for me.
A pleasant surprise to see today, after a bummer of a day yesterday. Excellent video Niyat, I’m fanging to watch this now
Sorry to hear that. Hope you are doing okay my friend
25:04 I love that you said this about the club scene. It was really disjointing and was one of the many things that made me lose interest in watching the series. I'll just watch you cover it and thank you for doing it! ❤
Congrats on the 1mil bro u deserve it 💯. And can u also do a video on blade runner universe or the don't look up movie
Thanks for this, i find the new movies and tv series interesting but i need to know more of the universe 😊
This is the greatest channel in the whole world.
Great episode and great analysis
pls everyone hit like we need this weekly 🙌🏽
Well done, Niyat. Looking forward to the rest of your reviews.
Love the EVE online scenes lol
I can not WAIT to BINGE this series's first season in ONE sitting!!! 🤤
i'm loving the eve online visuals
Thank you !
Yeah man . I need to watch this.
So there’s also the constant refrence to those mysterious glowing eyes and unintelligible voice. I personally think it could be Ominous. Also how the burning began seems like it’s meant to burn the victim inside out
She says Tyrant, Leto II was called the tyrant. The wide glowing blue eyes could be him as the worm. He took over the sisterhoods breeding program, giving immunity to domination by prescient rulers for humanity.
Love these theories. I thought it could be Omnious too :)
@@spencers4121 oh yes I have no doubt about Leto II being the one reference in conversation. However based on how gargled and almost metallic the voice sounds suggests otherwise. I also can’t get out of my head specifically Clairby from Chapterhouse either. The way his mechanical eyes were described very similar to my recollection.
I geeked out when I saw the Butlerian Jihad on screen for the first time!
6:55 She didn't establish the school on Wallach IX. The school was initially on Rossak. This school was closed by Emperor Roderick Corrino. Afterwards, The Sisterhood secretly took refuge on the abandoned planet, Wallach IX, to reestablish themselves. This is in "Sisterhood of Dune".
School was closed by Emperor Salvador Corrino.
The sandworm is Leto and many other visions obviously come true and can be seen to play out in the future books!
The ghola Hayt was the first ghola that the Tleilaxu successfully unlocked genetic memories in when they were able to unlock the memories of Duncan Idaho in Dune Messiah.
I don't know how good this show will be but at least we will have live action still images for all lore videos now. 😂
I hope we get an explanation of the scrape mark on the moon from the first dune movie
Imagine how much valia would freak out if vorian comes back to troll her; she assumes he's dead, but it would be hilarious if he came because of the serum he got, he ages really slowly. Doubt it would happen but it would be great.
I wonder if we will got another big budget Dune movie trilogy set after Paul Atreides and about his future children. To me it makes more sense to continue going with big movies or even shows set after Paul. But I’d also like to see a new big 200-250 million $ movie or trilogy showing the battles of humanity vs thinking machines.
We do know that several hundred years go by after Children of Dune and Puals son becomes the immortal god emperor who is a animorphic sandworm. The Empire is stable but under a harsh regime and DUNE itself has been terraformed to the extent that the great worms have become an endangered species. Think a rebellion happens. In all the books Duncan Idaho is a important character a ghoula that is one of the few that is able to constantly retain his originals host memories essentially being a perfect clone. This is very important in the last books.
I think anyone would love to see a trilogy of the DUNE Sage set during the war between humanity and the thinking machines.
Song name. PLEASE!
Please explore The Ancient Enemy from The Phantoms.
i was just watching your complete timeline of dune lore and history
Episode 1 of Warhammer 10K was pretty good - I enjoyed it. I liked when Ragnar showed up, but I don't really understand how he has such unfettered access to the Kingsman, Merlin.
What game's footage are you showing in the parts discussing the Tleilax?
Good soundtrack
Great visuals but if he can kill ppl remotely from another planet couldn't he just burn all of the Sisterhood and be done with it lol like why let them live amd give them an opportunity to develop countermeasures? Guess it's just a plothole but it's pretty big and hard to overlook. Let's see if they can make this more sensible in episode 2
As a fan of the extended universe I'm all for this. If the people watching this are confused because they only read Frank Herbert's books. You got some research to do. Enjoy the ride!
But what if I can't stand his son's writing?
@Hawk7886 that's fine; don't read them. If someone wants the background, it does exist.
This HBO series follows the schools trilogy if people want to know.
@@geoffreyhughes1 oh damn, hail satan, I thought I was going to have to power through that stuff
@@Hawk7886 the audio books are cool because Scott Brick reads them.
I’m liking it so far. Some shotty acting at times but I’m here for the ride.
18:40 hawk tuah?
Long live Butlerian Jihad!!
I read an article where the author tried to make the connection that HBO was game of thrones-ing The story of dune obviously not realizing that political intrigue and machinations are at the heart of the dune story. I really hope more people don't see it this way
In the Grimm dark furniture, there is only
War
Would love to see an actual show about the jhad
At 29:00 why do you show a scene from Prometheus?
Maybe to show another type of engineer in dune? Non related but a reference? 🤔
Well, detailed exhibit.
An omen for the modern ages.
:Timaeus BotRo; TBa
I hope we actually get to see thinking machines and how they were detrimental to mamkind and not just killing machines...
??! They freak out over the toy, yet he has a hologram machine???😧
A good start though 😄
Can you do The Savage Land from Marvel Comics,2005's Skull Island and Jurassic Park Novel
i wish they were more like Gong Li's Hatsumomo
Where can I watch it?
HBO max
I only watched this for king ragnar
I'm a fan of the Dune films, including Dune (1984), but the idea of a family vendetta, because of what someone said 10,000 years ago, is absurd.
To put that into perspective, 10,000 years is equivalent to 500 generations, taking us back to the end of the last glacial period, when much of the northern hemisphere was covered in vast ice-sheets, and Pleistocene megafauna roamed the landscape.
To put it into further context, the War of the Roses, fought between 1455 and 1487, devastated the two dynasties involved, yet within the lifetimes of those involved, peace and reconciliation was achieved.
The idea that the House of Lancaster, and the House of York would still be fighting in 10,000 years time is truly ridiculous, and undermines what I've always been told is great storytelling by Frank Herbert.
Individuals might be stupid, and bear a personal grudge, but their stupidity usually dies with them.
Vendettas, or blood feuds might be a thing within primitive tribes, but the clue is in the word 'primitive'. The Great Houses of the Landsraad are not primitive tribes, but part of a highly sophisticated space faring civilisation.
If anything, it shows that Frank Herbert fundamentally does not understand human nature, and our extraordinary capacity to forgive, compromise, and move on.
Frank Herbert clearly didn't understand the meaning of love, in its broadest definition, and I now understand why he was unable to finish the story. He didn't know how to finish the story...
Finally, I find this comment. I must agree - generational strife and recalcitrant animosity can only go on so long: peaks beget troughs beget peaks, over the vastness of time.
I try to allow for it, and find some way to suspend my disbelief so that I can buy into the vast narrative. (And I do see that Herbert's story expresses well how a given group or family is never quite all 'good' or 'bad' - but rather, unknowably complex and dynamic, as in George R.R. Martin's reflection of humanity.)
But in no universe, no reality, no fathomed narrative of humanity, can ANY extreme remain for so, SO long. Pendulum arms do not suspend themselves indefinitely, high up on one side. The gravity of the situation eventually moves them the other way. And a multi-generational conflict eventually metamorphosizes into a different reality- as surely as it begins in the first place.
By the way: I do suspect that EVERYONE who gets into the Dune story, whatsoever, is faced with their own reflexive internal skepticism, when they must first confront what they're being told in this story - that these two great houses have been so entrenched, for so long - it just doesn't make fundamental SENSE to a grown human reader, possessing decent intelligence, that this is a plausible plot point.
Good point tho if i was to find a reason for 10000yrs war would be since its between different planets probably different galaxies so having on big war amongst them would lead to a long time on no contact and misinformation plus its the future its easy to spread a narrative and have everyone believe in it
It plays into the core Dune universe perfectly, humanity becomes very stagnate.
Eh Habsburgs and Bourbons have done it for hundreds of years. Across the world, many clans, families and dynasties foght each other for many years
@@josephnarvaez9507
Many years, yes - THAT'S established. As is many generations - But not 10,000+ years.
But I acknowledge that being isolated to separate entire planets could extend that simmering acrimony - a further extension of separate nations' centuries-long resentment.
But with no periods of the pendulum EVER swinging strongly the other way _(many_ times, even?) - in 10,000 years?
There's a Dune series? I didn't knew about that
Just came out on hbo max
Focuses on the Sisterhood
I must ask, is this on Netflix or something? I hope to watch this myself
HBO Max
I don't think Hart is a Ghola, but is a Bi-Ixian.
facedancer, show your trueself !
Regarding A.I. I believe we could for sure use it to help aid things on earth and definitely when it comes to space travel. I don’t like the idea of using AI in war and definitely don’t want to see it be used with humanoid machines to take over doing the jobs we don’t like doing. I feel it could definitely be used to help with government efficiency and discovering new Medication to heal or cure disease. And most importantly for space travel
Frank Herbert wrote next to nothing on AI or the butlerian jihad. What we do know was it wasn't so much AI, it was other people using AI to enslave humanity.
It was Brian and Kevin, that wrote the fan fiction about the AI. Plenty of core Dune fans, would argue they never followed his fathers notes like they claim. As his son has never released the outline / notes for the last book.
@@spencers4121 seeing all the lies and powers struggle among the great House. I wonder if actually they just creating a lie that the AI try to enslave human but in reality they fear that AI will decentralize all government and render the ruling class obsolete.
@@spencers4121thats why God Emperor of Dune literally references thinking machines.....I've never met a dune fan who hates the Jihad, its usually just old heads who's own head canon got destroyed which explains why it's such a minority but vocal group that hates it
I know this sounds hilariously far fetched but can it be the worms being behind all of this having seen the ultimate future?
The worms just produce the spice, the Fremen consider them God. The spice is what gives humans the ability to see the future, and past.
More then likely the glowing blue eyes she sees on her death bed, and calls him tyrant,. Is the God Emperor Leto II Paul's son, who takes over the sisterhoods breeding program. And introduces the gene to stop prescience.
Sooooo how many of you keep hearing 40K all you need is the knight's of the empire because you all ready have an empire just don't have the knight's
Ten minutes of unskippable ads in less than ten minutes of video. What the fuck is youtube doing
SPACE!!!
Wait is that alexander greymon?
5:22 he has six fingers…
☪️ ancer
Ok lying bigot. Also, I find it funny you're liking your own comment.
The guy eaten by the worm was not desmond! Are you all blind? His nose and facial structure are all different.
HUMANITY FIRST!
The problem with these big budget shows is we kinda wanna see more action. I mean the big sets and acting are good but it's just people talking with a cool background. GOT HOD, The walking dead, Rome, even the Penguin are all guilty of this trend.
"fuck story I just want explosions" this is why modern shows and movies suck, none of them have story or even believable characters because 99.9% of it is just fighting
Ngl found the first episode pretty boring but man Travis Fimmel steals the show as usual
Why didn’t they invent organic technology?
SCIENCE!!!
Do Gholas know they are Gholas?
AI Enslaved Humans
Bene Gesered Enslaving Humans
Worms Enslaving Humans..
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I hope episode 2 is better I was looking forward to this series but episode 1 I got bored
See I can’t stand Dune antifuturism. If you’ve had a conversation with your boss who insists you use pencil and paper instead of Excel to make a half hour job a three hour job; you do not understand how ridiculous and offensive Dune position is on this. People telling you wasting time is self improvement and good character is insanity.
Dune isn't antifuture so much as it is anti-specialization and anti-reliance. The entire human race has a cultural revolution where they set their PC's on fire and toss calculators out the window and smugly declare themselves safe and whole again by reverting to neofeudalism. Their overt-reliance on automation suddenly replaced by overt-reliance on a single commodity. Dune is ultimately pro-choice, not pro-destiny or pro-luddite.
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watching them introduce the sisterhood as a bunch of girl bosses instead of you know....the bene gesserit was sad.... I mean these are suppose to be women who have access to their entire maternal line of genetic memory back to the beginning of humanity...not just some women who use religion and sex to game ppl
and then I remember this is brought to you by the same people who changed the ending of Dune II to erase the spacing guild, alia, the ending of the spice production via the fremen cisterns, and made a bene gessirt an emotional wreck I guess because she's a woman...even tho she would have been taught from birth to harness and control her emotions as BG to the point where she literally can choose the sex of her babies via her hormone release hence ..Paul..... Oh and they deleted Leto II..and made Chani into whatever that character was...strong female moron ? i dont know she's suppose to be his first disiciple like Mary to Jesus instead they have her pulling a full Thomas and being a cunt like Paul
thats.....that's literally what Frank wrote them to be? and they still have access to their mothers memory? not all Sisters undergo the Agony, and it's pretty heavily stated that *only reverend mothers have access to Other memory* not every sister
the Bene Gesserit were always written like this, they were always power brokers in the Imperium.
also how are they girl bosses? each of of them is shown to undergo years of training before even being allowed to be a Sister and years more to be a Reverand Mother
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Thank you. I was going to make a similar comment.
They can hardly be the BG as we know them 10 000 years from now. That's kind of the point with showing their origins. 🙄
And it's an elite group of highly trained women. If you have an issue with that you'll have to take it up with Frank Herbert.
The Jihad just ended and they already have The Voice? I thought it would take generations of honing. And how did they travel after the machines were gone without the guild?
the show literally states its been 130 years since the end of the Jihad
Commenting because this dropped 33 minutes ago and I need the serotonin that is caused by receiving likes 👍
Maybe just enjoy the video next time
Correction: Desmond Hart is an original character CREATED BY FANS OF RAISED BY WOLVES. Hart is the exact same character as Caleb/Marcus in Raised by Wolves played by the same actor, lol.
Hphh
wait WTF is THIS????
Who else likes Tom Hardy 2.0’s performance so far?
Dune is boring.. 😑
I gave it a 7.
Acting is mid, and the old lady in the "lead" is bad casting.
You mean Emily Watson? I must agree. Simply not the best casting, too soft a face to express a Harkonnen reverend mother's sharp, knowing intellect and her force of presence.
And the students' actors seemed soft and featureless and uninteresting - not like you'd imagine them in your mind. They'd be unique young talents with textured personalities and character and intelligence - not 2024 teenagers from a Hollywood casting call.
The casting and acting of the Sisterhood is god awful especially compared to how incredible the Bene Gesserit were in the movies.
@@voorachter2733 It's 10,000 years in the past, they're just starting out.
@@spencers4121 that doesn't excuse the bad acting.
@@spencers4121 feels too much like a bad soap series.
the show is boring, the Bene Gesserit has lost all their mystic from the movies to me... and they are all hideous, gone woke