Cannabis Hyperemesis Syndrome (CME Episode) | Incident Report 234
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มี.ค. 2019
- Cannabis DECREASES nausea and vomiting, right? But can the OPPOSITE happen? Here's what you need to know.
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I suffer from this condition for the last few years, only recently have i come to terms with it and fully stopped consuming cannabis... some of the hardest weeks in my life but i am working on making my body healthier and getting back on track.. Thank you so much for making this video and spreading awareness about this condition!
420CrazyLegzBlaze I’m going thru it rn it fucking sucks
Woah seriously? How much did you smoke for how long? Since my brain surgery I've smoked it medicinally all the time and now I'm terrified
420CrazyLegzBlaze I’m right here with you brother, I thought cannabis was the cure all, and it was the thing that was making me sick and causing all my misery.. I had this CHS for years, I’m standing in the toilet most nights trying hard not to be sick, it’s destroyed me, haven’t stopped yet but I’m about to as just can’t carry on anymore
420CrazyLegzBlaze yooo
@@montecristo252 I don't wanna stop either man but I really may need to
I suffer from CHS and after about 5-8 months of continuous use of mostly edibles and concentrate I usually can expect an episode. There are certain things that I notice before an episode happens (like a warning or triggers)
1. Early morning nausea (waking up)
2. Random hungry/empty/nausea feeling (anytime)
3. Can only eat what sounds good, when it sounds good. Horrible appatite
4. Heartburn and acid (resort to tums and acid blockers, sometimes even too eat)
5. Staying up really late like wee hours and going to bed fried/baked for months on end (trigger)
6. Using thc to combat your stress or being super stressed all the time leads to depression (trigger)
7. Eating out all the time having a dirty horrible diet and not consuming enough water. (Trigger) Staying hydrated may be the difference in severity of attack.
8. Drinking copious amounts of alcohol or even getting drunk (trigger) p.s the hangover feels like CHS can last for days.
9. Don't get sucked into letting thc control when and how you visit with family and friends this leads to depression Wich is a (trigger)
10. Wake and bake is one of the worst things to do to your brain. (Trigger) But unfortunately people who already have the morning nausea usually do smoke to be able to eat or use the bathroom.
POINTS TO TAKE AWAY!!!!!!!!
MODERATION is key, everyone is different and you need to find what and how much works or doesn't work for you. IE. Bud, Wax, Edibles or cessation.
DIET eat cleaner food and stay away from fast/takeout. Or eat out Smart.
Keep yourself hydrated all the time and don't be afraid of water.
EXERCISE don't be a couch potato and just dab out all day. Go for a swim a walk, go fishing or hunting or hiking just being in the sun and working up a sweat helps with appatite and toxin removal.
FELLOWSHIP don't be a loner go see people. You aren't alone your friends and family love you and miss seeing you. Just because you might not be able to smoke when you want or where you want doesn't make it right or healthy to just sit home and let your relationships take a dive because you can't get high all day.
Ur comment has to be one of the most Honest replies yet . How are you doing ? Have you stopped smoking ? I’m stopping today I can’t go on feeling like this anymore . I suffer from depression but a lot of what you said is simple and can easily cure depression without the. I think a lot of the times it’s in our heads
@@mysterydpt4663 Absolutely alot of it is the fact we put ourselves into an absolutely shitty routine while trying to deal with all the crap and stress life throws at us. We cant rely on THC to combat the stress and depression. At that point we're giving our body and mind a reward for completely shitting on us.
Today makes 17 days since my last attack/episode finished, and 31 days sober. And honestly I've felt good, my eating habits and appatite are still suffering Wich is normal but they are improving. But a recent development is a severe headache I woke up with 5 days ago and will not retreat.
I am not smoking and I don't know if I will again yet . I've been using myself as a control group type study through my last 2 episodes and that's how I came up with all of those bullets in my original post. I've literally sat and wrote this stuff down during episodes because all you have time to do is puke/feel like death and think about everything you've ever fucked up in your life. This shit is a humbling experience.
Alot of people who smoke suffer from anxiety and depression already and want to just sit home all the time and medicate. But they don't realize how good it is for their mental state and even immune system to be around people whom love them, and whom they love. Go out see people, take the vacation, take the time off. People don't understand how unhealthy sitting inside the same 4 Walls staring at a screen is.
People don't realize that the staying up all night "mostly alone" dabbing away and going to bed baked then waking up and just getting baked again is actually doing to them. All your endocannabinoid receptors are being fried like Nagasaki every waking moment. They don't know anything else but being suppressed by THC.
Alot of the symptoms of CHS can be prevented or lessened just by consuming extra water during smoking sessions and all day really. This 100% helped me. As soon as I started really realizing I was getting sick again I started drinking lots of water and juice and soup before the vomiting assaulted my body. Compared to the last 2 episodes where I vomited for 11 days then 16 days this attack was 5 days of vomiting. And the entire duration was shorter and wayyyyy less intense. So I do believe the increased water consumption was partially to blame.
Unfortunately alot of stoners eat like absolute garbage dumping toxin after toxin into their already DEPRESSED, DEHYDRATED, NUTRIENT STARVED, OVERWORKED and THC SUPPRESSED bodies.
We are all diffrent and some may never be able to smoke again. My advice would be suffer through for 40 to 60 days get clean. IF YOU DECIDE!! to pick it up again start with just low THC flower ABSOLUTELY NO CONCENTRATE!!!
Keep use to just occasions like weekends or holidays or events. Treat it like a reward. Don't stay up all night smoking or go to bed stoned. Dont smoke cause your stressed or depressed. Drink something before and after your smoke session and don't eat like shit. Home cook or try to get something healthy. Fuck the fast food they are killing us slowly.
I'm sorry for the essay and like I said we're all different and exactly what I said to try I will be trying myself. At the 40 day mark. My goal in all this is to try and help where I can. I know I can survive and suffer through the attacks and if me suffering helps others to understand getting into a better routine and what can trigger episodes so be it.
@@alecrivera7746 it really is a humbling experience fortunately I think I am still in the first stage as I haven’t had the severe constant vomiting but the Abdominal pain is there and it’s bad. All the foods I loved before I can’t eat any of it at all anymore . I have to eat bland food or what I’ve been eating for the past days just rice grilled chicken and black beans but my stomache still hurts from time to time . I was taking a puff or dab thinking it will help the nauseous pain and at first it does help but the pain only comes back minutes later and stronger at that .
I think it’s great that you are sharing your experience and jotting down all the bullet keys and notes . From what I’ve read this is fairly new and not even doctors have a grip on what it really is . I myself went to urgent care and I was honest to them that I have been smoking every day since I was a teen I am 25 now and they just suggested that I take it easy on the smoking . Not once did they mention Chs but I feel as if it’s just not as recognized as it should be . What you are doing is great there are many people out there that need assurance as to what is going on with them and sometimes the answer is not that simple . It’s also strange because not everyone who is a long term daily smoker like you and myself are completely fine. Most of the people I know that smoke don’t even know this exists and they’re puffing everyday nothing to it . I can’t keep feeling like this I feel as if it’s just getting in the way of everything . I’d honestly rather be healthy and feel somewhat stressed/depressed and get over it naturally than to be smoking for the stress to temporarily go away Only for the pain to come back 10x stronger .
And of course I haven’t gone back to Urgent yet might want to visit another center to see what they can evaluate but for now I’m going to refrain from smoking and see if I see any changes . They say it doesn’t just happen it takes time and I know I’m going to have the urge to smoke during that time of healing but I must understand that my stomache is healing and I cannot interfere with that if I want to be healthy again .
Today was the first time I found out about Chs but as soon as I found out about it it gave me a little hope as too what might be wrong . Of course I’m not diagnosed yet but if stopping smoking is going to do the job then by all means i will do what ever it takes .
I also look at it as a chance of being released . I was blowing threw 50$ eights every 3 days and I wasn’t even getting that high anymore . I was literally just wasting my money . Now if I stop I can have the peace of mind knowing I will soon get better and my wallet will love me a lot more being that I’ll be able to save all the money I was spending on 50$ eights . It also gives me the peace of mind that I’ll have to pickup another hobby or atleast something productive to take my mind off of smoking and what I’ve been accustomed to the last 10 years .
Thank you again for sharing your story and your progress . It’s not a known widespread disease or whatever it is but atleast we have the peace of mind that we are not alone in this . There too are other people going through the exact same thing we are going through
I needed to hear this.
Thank you.
@@RNG-999 you got this. You will make it through. This is just a hurdle. You will be a mentality stronger person after this is over.
Don’t give up and don’t give in. Let people be there for you even if it means they find out you smoke/smoked.
You will beg for it to be over and it will be it doesn’t last forever. But it will leave lasting damage the thought of what could possibly happen if you go down the same path again. You can smoke eventually but in moderation the stoner lifestyle doesn’t fit us that have CHS anymore.
I am rooting for you and I know you can do this. I thought I was going to die and screamed for god to kill me at times but instead he made me realize lots of things I was doing wrong.
Was just diagnosed with this today. It's been masked by my acid reflux for about 3 years. I've smoked about 3 times a day, every day, for the last 8 years. It was such a relief when the doctor told me what the problem was. Being in and out of ERs, just to have them tell me it's acid reflux. I kept telling them I've had reflux since I was 13, I know my body and this pain ain't reflux. Thank you so much for this video, and the information, and for not stigmatizing cannabis users
ZDoggMD should go on the Joe Rogan show! Or vice versa. Either way, it would be a great show.
Absolutely! ZDogg MD would be an excellent guest on Joe Rogan!
I agree, more exposure to the information.
This is very helpful, my Bf and I (18 years old- 20 years old) smoked weed nearly everyday for about 2 years (took a two month break once). Recently he started getting sick, not being able to keep anything down, stomach pain, and a lot of weight loss. Each time he got better we would start smoking again for fun and sure enough, a week goes on and he’s back to being sick, but it wouldn’t be triggered by smoking, but by eating a lot because the daily smoking caused his stomach acid to raise and he threw up so much that he had a damaged esophagus. It’s the new year and we stopped smoking and now he seems to be detoxing from it and gets sick. Hot showers and an IV in his arm were the only way to make him feel better. I on the other hand wouldn’t get sick. I denied that it was the weed because I was fine and the last time we stopped smoking he didn’t get sick, but I’m sure it’s this. It seems hard to let go of something that made me relax at the end of the night, but if it’s what it takes to make him feel healthier, then I’ll do it. It won’t be easy, but if others can do it, then we can do it, including you (the reader).
If he still has pains, tell him to use digestive enzymes and specifically with HCL
@@ferndup7378 lol okay
Great topic, and well covered! Thank you for providing CME credit, too! Honestly, I'm not surprised at all that the same plant can both suppress and induce vomiting. It seems quite common for substances to have a therapeutic effect up to a certain dosage, and then cause the opposite effect by some other mechanism with either high dosage or prolonged use. Too bad that the drug war has left us behind in valuable research!
It's been legal in other countries, so also sad that other capable parts of the world don't contribute enough to human research.
Thanks man. Just got diagnosed in the ER a week ago!!!! I’m a 25 year old male tired of waking up in the morning feeling pregnant lol!!!!!!! But yeah something about the hot showers really does help but this ain’t a sustainable lifestyle. Time to make a change I guess!!!
Bro eventually ur body will be immune to hot showers and the cramping will take over quitting is your best move here trust me
Fake carts or/and Azadirachtin poisoning aka neem oil poisoning
@@BlakeAlexander12 Stop spreading misinformation. You clearly don't have this and don't understand the amount of pain people get in. there are people who smoke PESTICIDE FREE weed and still get CHS. What you're saying is a delusional myth.
I don’t comment much on TH-cam but I hope this Blake guy gets it 😂 then he won’t be yapping about neem oil lolol
Ok so if any of you are chs sufferers, as I am, try vitamin D. It completely normalized my bowels and eliminated 95% of my morning nausea. I have not seen this recomended anywhere else, I hope it helps you as much as it has me.
I hate that I have this and still love weed. What a bummer, I wish there was a cure.
There's still not much research on it maybe there will be a cure one day
same here..
@@ISSAxJames it's like they not even trying to research on it
the cure: stop smoking so loud
There is a cure buddy. Try switching markets if at all possible. It isnt cannabis that's causing this. It is something that CERTAIN growers are using. I switched to a different state and my symptoms stopped.
My husband is in his second hyperemesis phase. Each lasted over 10 days and he’s lost 30 lbs in 2 months. He is in denial. Watching this video as he’s hanging out in a hot bath to get some relief.
How he doing? Hope everything is going well!
Tell him to read my stuff ..
10 days? That would be great. 18 months straight for me.
I’ve been dx’d w/CHS only after 8 mos. Of use for chronic pain and neuropathy. You’re the first person that addressed migraines! I also got heart palpitations and bp over 200’s/100’s. Was hospitalized 4 days. Had gastro & cardio work done, which came back normal. Thank you so much for getting this info out. So many ppl even doctors need to learn about this.
I suffered from CHS twice now... I had extreme abdominal pain and nausea.. stopped consuming THC for about a year and a half and all symptoms were gone throughout that time.. As soon as I felt better I thought it would be a great idea to smoke again.. After 2 years of smoking again Symptoms started back up and man it was the worst pain ever.. it went on for about 3 weeks and After visits to the ER and everything checked out normal I figured it was the THC again so I had to stop again.. Man I don't wish this upon anyone.. I lost about 18 pounds by not eating in that time due to abdominal pain and nausea. So if you're suffering the same symptoms and not sure what it is and you consume THC more than likely you have CHS. It took about 2 weeks after quitting for everything to go back to normal.
Mikey G bro u hit it to the tee. It’s like I’m reading my own medical write up from your post here. Im laying off the sauce forever! Health over weed! Time to get back to my rc hobby and ditch this expensive and dangerous other hobby called smoking/dabbing ✋🏽 I’m 9 days sober cold turkey it’s been the toughest 9 days of my life but things will get better can’t wait!
How much and often were u smoking during the 2 year period ?
Thanks for posting this and allowing me to learn more about a condition i've dealt with for a few years. I posted a video recently about my CHS story and what i went through.
One of the best video I’ve seen in this subject. Thank you
ZDogg! Thank you so much for all of your insight. I have suffered this condition and have been THC free for 6 days now. The easiest cure is to simply stop. I have shared this video with all of my doctors who have helped me through this and one important thing: The early on symptoms are loss of appetite in the morning. If I had known that my slight loss of appetite might lead to a hyperemetic episode then I would have stopped. Please do another episode on this syndrome because there are SO many people in Boulder, CO that are in denial and ER's and Primary Care's are being flooded with CHS patients. My PA said that CHS is the most common diagnosis for stomach issues in Colorado. Please continue to inform, love ya Zdogg.
I had this syndrome. I was in denial at first. When I quit smoking it went away and am so much better. Glad this is being talked about and had it been explained to me like this I wouldn’t have probably been in so much denial. One thing I will say that most places don’t mention but capsaicin does help if rubbed on the abdomen it burns but does help. But quitting smoking is the best thing to do. I have no sx at anymore.
Try digestive enzymes
@@ferndup7378 try growing ur own weed w/o chemicals. I smoke every day at least a joint for over 40years I don't get to vomit but I do get the munchies.
@@shuckjive1141 because it’s not the same for everyone
I work in a small community hospital and we have several frequent flyers that come in with this. The users never want to believe that the marijuana is the issue. They will take upwards of 30 showers a day so its super obvious what the issue is!
I didn’t believe it when the dr told me it might be the weed but because they don’t explain it to us they just flat out say oh it’s the marijuana, and of corse people are gonna be in denial. Drs, nurses need to explain it to people and tell them what CHS is not just straight up tell them oh it’s the weed.
@@ivandominguez7751 it is a very sad/bad situation I agree totally. But I really think it's the chemicals. Have you ever googled how many chemicals they use to grow and flower?? It's ridiculously insane. All you need is water, lights and fans. Perfect solution.
@@shuckjive1141 study's have been shown it occurs with organic grows as well. It's not the chemicals sadly. And yes the doctors just hand you a packét and then leave
@@shuckjive1141 many can grow their own now in a lot of places and having full time access to completely organic grows without organic treatments like neem still produce the same result, CHS. Like the doctor said at the end if you're going to smoke only do it a little.
@@shuckjive1141 I've grown outside in the sun in all organic dirt ( worm castings, blood meal, etc etc.) It really doesn't matter.
Im on day two of quitting and i feel so much better I’m looking forward to my future 👏🏼
Hot shower or hot bath....
More like sitting in hot shower or bath for hours...
rite basically living in the shower
U got the syndrom?
DABS 999 I do and they’re not lying, I’ve been in the bath for up to 8+ hours multiple times bc of chs
Callahan Talks no cap
yes
I recently got cussed out in the most vile way by a patient’s girlfriend for simply suggesting that the patient’s daily use of marijuana for the past 10+ years might be causing his hospitalizations every 3 months for persistent vomiting (hot baths worked wonders). Just another reason I will be retiring early. I’ve yet to have a patient accept the *possibility* of chronic marijuana use causing their cyclic vomiting all that well.
G. Ma Funny how it doesn’t make people all that mellow either.
Hey man. If you truly cared, please keep going. We are loosing great people like you in the field, and all of us are getting the brunt end of the stick for it.
I suffer from this terribly, and only just now, like REALLY JUST NOW, have decided to be a fucking man and admitting I have a problem with smoking weed, and I’m going to die if I continue to do so.(suicide).
So for the girlfriend, I apologize, she’s clearly suffering along with her boyfriend. But I do want to thank you. Seriously. Keep going! You may get discouraged, but there are those of us out there that just need the time and pain to finally wake the fuck up, and people like you make it possible.
So thank you.
Muh weed is organic bro, it cures disease it can't cause them.
Yeah people just think marijuana is a cure all drug.
Because most of the time, it’s fake carts or/and Azadirachtin poisoning aka neem oil poisoning
Most likely ‘thank goodness’ you’re retiring lol
Great video, very clear and informative. I was able to identify my CHS in the prodrome period and have quit cannabis completely and all symptoms have gone away. Thanks to the internet and videos like this one I was able to figure this out when otherwise it may have taken years to figure out and may have progressed to those further stages. Also was relieved that it was not some more serious condition as I had feared.
Yup gotta lay off the sauce that’s the cure. Stay healthy brother! 🙌🏽
can u still smoke cannabis once in a awhile or no? I'm scared i have this been toking for 19 years .... started getting sick last week ..
How long did your symptoms last after you quit smoking?
@@figuerovicious8653 about 10 days, kinda gradually subsiding after a week. and to the other 4 month old question yes occasional use (smoking/vape) is ok and doesn't seem to bother me now. mainly for me it was the edibles that triggered this response.
@@operationstayalive thanks for the feedback its really appreciated🙏
It’s crazy how every word he says matches with what I’ve been through. Only just found out what this condition was, suffered for years with this mystery vomiting sickness in the night condition. I used more cannabis to try and help it, it never really helped. It does sometimes take the sick feeling away in the middle of the night. Most nights I’m standing in the toilet trying hard not to be sick at 4 or 5am.. it’s destroyed my life, I feel weak and unwell in the day then and run down. I have to stop now, just struggling
Same here ...
Exactly the same ..
Be strong
@@ASHOTOFHENNY same here man
Super interesting vlog. RN here...I had a patient with this syndrome and almost nothing helped. This patient had compazine, zofran, reglan, Tigan nothing helped. Until a few days being in the hospital did the medication started to work but very little. But I didn’t think of hot baths, interesting. Now I know next time how to educate my patient better on this topic. Thanks ZDogg
I've found showers are better than baths, walking while suffering helps, nauzene chews & mashed bananas with a bit of honey. Start fluids w/Pedialyte & warm (ginger) tea.
Andi Ward this comment needs to have more likes!!!!
Anecdotally, I find tremendous relief from Anxiety and nightmares from service related PTSD. It pretty much saves my life. Although, that said, I have a VERY low incidence of use. A couple times a month is usually sufficient to break my chain of symptoms.
Earthdrumz I’ve only seen it with patients who use it much more frequently almost daily
Thank you so much for makin this video you should damn well go on joe Rogan to talk abt this very serious disease man it’s so good to learn I’m not the only one with this
I believe CHS is the body’s reaction to toxicity from too much THC built up in the system over time. With cannibis use, dosage is key. The only way to avoid CHS from occurring is to limit usage and take frequent and long breaks to allow the body to purge all of the THC so there’s no build up.
Except - look up people who have ingested concentrated FECO ( full extract cannabis oil) or RSO ... that is like up to 90% THC in the oil and a few hundred MG ingested daily ...
@@mcozy333 that's basically how I gave it to myself in 5 months time, doing that daily.
Thanks for covering this! Seen two OB patients with this, hot showers and all.
"Cannabis Hyperemesis Syndrome; it's a mouthful." Groan. : D
My attending found the classic sign of CHS is if a patient looks like they’re having an exorcism, then throw them some Haldol.
Thats exactly what it feels like so much pain u just wanna run .. but which way ?
zdoggmd: very cool vlog ...
That outro, believe it or not, is what made me feel like it's all going to be okay :P
I just had my second bout with the most terrible vomiting imaginable, and am pretty sure that is what it was. I have been a heavy user since the 70s, and never had the problem before. I live in Colorado and was doing a lot of very high potency edibles. After the first ordeal in November I quit for 28 days and seemed be back to normal. So, I thought "maybe it was the pizza." But, after this, I know I can never safely use pot again. It was soooo god awful I thought I was dying. I have never screamed before while vomiting, and had to crawl to get to the bathroom I was so weak. I could not even hold down just a couple sips of water. I never had the problem before I started getting heavily into edibles, but I am not willing to take the chance on smoking it. It was so terrible that I now have an aversion to even thinking about it or when I smell it coming from my neighbors balcony. I depended on this stuff for over 50 years, and now I want to learn to deal with my feelings without turning to any kind of substance abuse.
The screaming while vomiting part is spot on. I genuinely thought I was gonna go insane. I’ve been smoking daily for almost a year so I guess it caught up to me pretty fast. Only been two days since i’ve stopped (thought it was just gastritis till the 3rd er visit when they told me it was probably this) but i’m already starting to feel a bit better. I’ll miss weed but I won’t miss the agony I felt. During the worst moments it made me feel as though I was on the verge of death and I even contemplated just ending it to stop the pain (of course those were irrational thoughts). It triggered my anxiety horribly as well. It’s no joke and I’m glad you were able to pull through.
You have a lot of wisdom.
Wow. Thank you for sharing your utterly frightening story. Screaming while vomiting. That is hell. Damn if that comment alone doesn’t save a bunch of lives. ❤
As a former pot head i can say people that use often are extremely in denial.
Lol yeah it's funny 😂
Thank you so much Doctor! Im soooooo done smoking weed! Yuck 🤢🤮
Dude it took me five minutes to accept what was wrong with me and I caught it in the first stage.
As soon as my doctor presented this idea to me, it wasn't hard at all to stop. Unfortunately, I didn't catch it in the first stage.
that's where am at right now it's been 3 days now it sucks
Axel Johnson just take a fatty break. It will come back if you go back to heavy use. I’ve been on a break and feel great with out it. About to turn 21 gonna start smoking very very casually every once in awhile and I know it won’t come back as long as I use in moderation
@@alexdaniel5830 thanks alot did just so and am good again👊🤟
@@alexdaniel5830 you’re not even old enough
It’s cut fake carts or/and Azadirachtin poisoning aka neem oil poisoning
Here's what I don't get.... You don't feel sick immediately after smoking or even during smoking, my pain/nausea/vomiting always happens the next day at work and I do not smoke at work, my question is what's with the delay? Is it possible there is another issue at hand as well? I don't doubt that CHS is playing a part really
It's because cannabinoids are stored in our bodies, we have receptors in there. That's why the symptoms often come after years of daily use.
For me it usually starts as 5 minutes after I wake up the next day
Lots of people experience either or. Eventually the people that have a delayed reaction will get to the immediate reaction after longer use. Join the CHS Reddit group.
@@xeoph don't need to, I was in it before and it's nothing but people whining about not being able to smoke anymore. I'm smoke free and good no looking back
@@ASHOTOFHENNY same
Good show ZDogg! Its interesting how everyone has a different response and this talk also highlights that indulging too much in anything can go from a positive benefit to a negative benefit. I indulged a little bit to much with drinking on my 40th bday and woke up to vomiting multiple times throughout the next day which is not usual for me. I could not keep anything down and was feeling really rough so smoking pot was the last thing I wanted. I dont smoke everyday or even every week and when I do I only indulge with a few hits. After a friend recommended to take a hit to help out...I decided to give it a shot. One hit and my nausea/vomiting stopped. Honestly, it kinda blow my mind that it would work right away! I only took that one hit so who knows if taking more would have had a more negative effect?
my last hangover few years ago ( one in 20 years) it was cannabis vaporizer to the rescue... instant relief instant feel better instant smile... I was not vomiting but felt down in the dump... Fuck alcohol
This is a good talk
Is there a way to post comments anonymously or with a pseudonym?
I’m an all or nothing guy and smoked every day for 7 years. I didn’t go 30 minutes without smoking honestly. I would do challenges where i would take 4-5 dabs during a movie. I got CHS and I’m on day 5 of no smoking. Everything is balance and I ran up the smoke too much. I abused this great plant and I got bit in the ass.
Google: Digestive Enzymes for CHS.
Fernd Up I will do that. Haven’t smoked in almost a month and miss it haha.
I’m in the UK, took me 3 years to get diagnosed with this! Went hospital about 18 times in them 3 years. They used to diagnosed me with gastritis or suspected ulcer. Only thing that helps me other than hot showers/baths is morphine IV at the hospital... also a fan blowing on me & capsicum cream helps me abit too. Thank god for the NHS, if I lived in USA I’d be broke from medical bills!!!
When I was in the Emergency room morphine made the pain worse they gave me dilaudid and the pain went away instantly
ER nurse here. In my experience ER docs tend to fall back on this as a sort of catch all diagnosis when a patient who smokes the reefer daily comes in with uncontrollable vomiting. Even if it is an isolated event.
Sometimes a pot head just has a viral syndrome or food poisoning just like everyone else.
Thank you.
That alarm scared the begeezus out of me
Amazing video. Very accurate. One caveat, taken out of context this video, plus many sources online that come up when you Google "Cannabis hyperemesis" indicate that this is a rare disorder that only occurs in extremely heavy cannabis users. The reality is this is just simple cannabis withdrawal that happens to most any long term user when they try to quit. It's not rare in the least. Smoke cannabis for 5 years or so and try to quit you should expect this experience.
I think withdrawals are different than Cannabis hyperemesis. That syndrome occurs while you're heavily using, and subsides after you quit.
Although I've heard the withdrawals are much worse when you have CHS.
It isn't withdrawal
There was an article on this in the AANP Journal
I had a 7 month break after smoking for 2 years, then I made the choice to smoke again. So for 4-5 weeks every single day, I smoked heavily from early morning to late. By the end of the 5th week I had all the symptoms of CHS, (I had no choice but to stop cold turkey) symptoms continued to stay around until the 7th week.
Ruined my appetite & lost kilos.
Panic attacks can happen if you are susceptible.
Haven't smoked since.
It’s been triggering my anxiety a lot (which I rarely had before) and i’ve lost 10 pounds in 1 week. Don’t plan on smoking ever again. I’ve had to go to the ER 3 times in one week for fluids. It’s only been two days since I stopped smoking since I barely found out it was this and not just gastritis on Sunday but I’m starting to feel a bit better. It’s no joke. Genuinely thought I was gonna die or go insane multiple times.
I have been diagnosed with this, I haven't had an issue getting hooked on the shower, but I sit in front a heater for hours everyday. -.-
One point you might want to add. It can be extremely hard for many people to stop smoking weed when experiencing CHS because smoking weed gives temporary relief of symptoms. So they smoke to feel better temporarily, but they are just making the problem worse and extending their symptoms. This seems to be very common in people with CHS (They hurt so bad they feel that they must smoke for short term relief).
A very horrific cycle 🤮
When I didnt kno I had CHS I would sit in the tub full of the hottest water I could handle Lookin red like a lobster .. Watching videos on my phone and hitting the bong SMH
My boyfriend is going through this right now, his been in and out of hospital all week and we think that it is this Syndrome as the doctors dont seem to have any idea why he is the pain he is in.
Although he gave up pretty much straight away a week in he is still has allot of lower stomach pain.
Has anyone had it where the pain starts in the lower chest/upper intestine and moved down to the pelvic area????
I'm going thru the same bull shit rite now I wouldn't wish the pain on my worst enemy 💯🤬🤬🤬
@@deebrown7686 keep going strong 💪, it takes a week or so but things do start to look up! 👍
Yup and yup. I’m 9 days sober recovering from this 29 years smoker here. I’ve relapsed several times on quitting completely and every time I start using again the symptoms comes right back within a week or so I’m a heavy dabber 10x a day .5 every 48 hrs 🤦🏻♂️Was on denial for a bit. This all started when I started dabbing 10 yrs ago er trips painful cramping sweaty feeling etc discovered chs just recently like 10 days ago and realized after hearing everyone’s symptoms just like mines to the tee is somewhat relieving. So I had to quit cold turkey because I’m not gonna let a plant destroy my body and mind anymore. Time heals and just gotta lay off the sauce period.
@@lstruggy I’ve been trying to quit smoking for the same reason man it’s just so hard after you have been smoking it for years
"I must be high. It's a legal state" made me actually chuckle
My daughter stayed at the hospital for 5 days the first time she was their. After 3 visits they told us she had CHS. She hasn't fully stopped smoking but shes slowed down a lot. Her nausea is mainly in the morning & she has chronic pain all day. The hot showers help but i wish i knew more
She has to stop then
Yea your daughter needs to stop or she's only gonna get worse. People have had episodes that lasted triple that duration. Don't let you daughter go through that please, she currently has the mind of an addict.
Great video... @ZDoggMD I have recently been diagnosed with CHS by my GI. During the multiple tests that were run on me before my diagnosis, one of them was a Gastric Emptying Study, which confirmed that I also have Gastroparesis. My question is this, if I continue to abstain from cannabis, will my Gastric Emptying Time go back to what it once was before my overuse of THC products? Or will I now be stuck with Gastroparesis for life? Thanks guys... stay strong!!
If u stop completely it will eventually reverse it self meaning u will be back to normal just quit if u don’t ever want to suffer again, best of luck and time heals fam health over weed any dam day 🤘🏽
I have this
And let me tell you, it is a living fucking hell
i lost 80 lbs due to vomiting after being sick for more than six years, denying to myself it was the pot. I was getting sick every other month, then every week, then every day. New years eve I finally quit. I'm not sleeping well and I'm aggravated alot but its better than waking up sick everyday. It cost me a fortune. I've vomited for 48 hours straight at times. I've lost work due to the illness. Its not worth it to continue using it. I've scared my family and friends when I was violently sick. I blamed it on everything but the marijuana, I was wrong.....I have quit for 4 days and counting.
8 DAYS NOW.....YEEEEEEHA
THE STONES how’s it going, managed to still stay off it? I’m finding it hard!!!
@@elmo7339 THANK YOU FOR ASKING, IM AGGRAVATED BUT IT IS SLOWLY GETTING BETTER. IM SPENDING MORE ON NUTRITION NOW RATHER THAN THE WEED WHICH IS LEGAL HERE BUT 57 DOLLARS AN 8TH. HANG IN THERE IT GETS EASIER, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT I DONT FEEL LIKE I AM DYING.....YOU CAN DO IT I SMOKED HEAVILY FOR 43 YEARS. BEST OF LUCK.....
keep your head up brother i started developing symptoms last week I'm scared to shit .. I still blaze a bowl in a bong once a day .. but still fee Nausea .. I honestly blame the WEED of today with high THC content
@@therealjulez7886 sorry you are going through this, the only way itll stop is when you quit....sorry to say that....its been 15 days for me and i am still aggravated but theres no turning back now....best of health and luck to you...
My son's ex-girlfriend, a total pothead, had this. Was in complete denial.
Lori McFarland it’s really hard to accept
I'm slowly recovering from this. I've not vomited but the nausea is literally crippling. I have my good days and my bad days. Modern day weed is a completely different animal compared to what I smoked in the 70's and 80's.
Because of pesticides and all the shit they add now
If anyone is going thru this shit feel free to ask me shit. I been thru it and it was the worst experience of my life. Now nearly 3 months clean, my life have never been better. Wish y’all luck!
What were some things that helped or eased it ?
@@tarekj5951 you have to stop smoking broski. You’ll feel better in a week or two
@@tarekj5951 also there’s a Facebook recovery group chat with a lot of answers
My 62 year old husband has CVS. He was a heavy smoker in his younger years but has been a truck driver for 12 years and regularly tested, DOES NOT SMOKE ANY MORE FOR OVER A DECADE. Hot baths and showers are the only thing that brings him relief. The thought that shower is exclusive with CHS is wrong. My daughter was just diagnosed with CHS, now we will wait to see if abstinence from smoking will cure her. These two syndromes are so similar it is crazy. Wondering if you know of a genetic link?
Hey Cindy, hows your daughter doing?
So if someone is diagnosed with this is it a lifelong issue or will it settle and they can casually use marijuana after some time or will it always happen after an initial episode?
Better to not take the risk. You know what weed feels like, so take a year off it and explore the sober life
Yea.... it was first described in Adelaide, South Australia.
I've been consuming cannabis for over 50 years and this is concerning no problems with anything like this yet thankfully.
Your a god man, that’s it
I'm in my 2nd day in the ER. Second visit in one week. About a month before the visits i would feel random nasuea. Smoked to get rid of it. Started happening more often and actually threw up a week into it. At least once a day for a week. Got progressively worse so i amped up weed use. Bad idea. Got sicker and sicker until I couldn't function. Pain was BAD and vomiting every 10 min. Violent episodes. And would always happen around the same time everyday. Usually 2 "sessions" a day. Had to go the ER because I felt like I was gonna pass out and felt my heart was jumping of my chest. Felt pain right below ribs. 1st visit doctors did not have a clue (nurses did though, hmmm). Gave me anti nausea and morphine, felt better. Next day felt fine and smoked. Day after went to the ER and was diagnosed with this. Never fucking smoking again. Felt like shooting myself in da face
Its hyper nemesis syndrom...because its my only real nemesis in life.
Capsaicin 1% on the stomach up to 4 times a day, works for a couple of hours. It's just as good as a hot shower... the only cure though is to stop smoking. Trust me I've experienced this.
Digestive Enzymes, research it!
Fernd Up is that a cure? Or does it only put symptoms off for a while?
@@yazminebarber1613 there is no cure, you'll have to wait for Bill Gates vaccine for that lmao.. jk.. anyways to sum it up, start eating healthier, STOP consumption asap and do not start again or else it'll come back & worse. It seems like the end of the world but trust me, its not! Tis the beginning of something great and new. If you do this and change your mindset / find new hobbies you'll be fine. Think of this as an investment in what matters the most and that is YOU!! =)
Fernd Up I stopped smoking dispo weed and dispo wax and since then I have had any symptoms. It’s been a few months. Due to the Rona my checks been kinda small so I’m also not buying the same amount of weed I was buying before. But I do still smoke multiple times a day and I seriously haven’t had any issues.
Fernd Up I can only hope it stays this way.
I'm no doctor but as a medical scribe I've seen a patient act like this. It was her 2nd time in the ED for this and she was still in denial even with a partner who'd gone through it.
Apparently hot baths also mitigate the symptoms of cyclic vomiting syndrome, so you can't use that for a differential diagnosis.
True! My husband has had CVS for the last 20 years and he takes hot bath with every episode. The only thing that has helped is Vicodin, because it slows the gastric emptying. That wasn't tried until 17 years had past.
@@davidhisel606 this is crazy.. because a lot of people cite the fact that cannabis slows gastric emptying as the cause for CHS.. but Vicodin helps CVS for the exact same reason? Interesting.
@@davidhisel606 Vicodin .. Percocet .. Dillauid ..
Ive spent more money on pain killers then pot SMH
Is there a difference with this involving indica vs sativa strains?
At around 8:00 or 9:00 he states that some individuals might or might not trigger CHS at all regardless of their use, then he states they dont even know which cannabinoids are causing the problem.
In other words we dont know whats causing it only that its an actual thing seemingly caused by cannabis and obviously related to the endocannabinoid system.
I always thought weed was a go to when nauseous but now im going to think twice whenever i do so.
Also i bet a lot of people still lie to their doctors about this cause cannabis being illegal.
Peace
Hmmm, just a thought. My doctor told me that CHS didn't really start showing up until these higher potency strains of weed came to be. Could a higher level of CBD, and A LOT lower level of THC buds help in any way? For the people that feel like they just HAVE to smoke.
That may be true, but after you've developed this your body may no longer tolerate those lower THC levels.
You will still get CHS from CBD
i had this,AMA
How long and how much did you smoke? What were the first symptoms
@@CrnogorskiNacionalista about 8 years of smoking minimum 1gram per day without missing a day. some days i'd smoke triple that. I started overeating often then i'd wake up with stomach aches at around 4am, go and sit on the toilet for around 30 minutes , start puking, get really bad cold sweats followed by a panic attack. Then sit in the shower with the water on hot. then i didnt need to over eat for that to happen and it became daily for a couple years and i never had an appetite because my stomach hurt 24/7.ate very healthy all the time as a result, had tons of tests done (i'm in canada) and we could never find the culprit. i was depressed and therefore was never taking a break from weed, but when i did i was sick for almost 4 days going thru what i can only describe as withdrawal. it's been a few years and i smoke weed again but not nearly as often
@@stumblevideoguy33 im now on my second year of smoking and I'm really into lifting and eating so weed for me is something perfect, before I started smoking it I was naturally really skinny and couldn't eat much but weed helped me overcome that, I'm just afraid of having too much of a good thing because everything can be bad for you when you take it too much I guess. Thanks for the answer really helped me :) I'm gonna keep smoking but it's still kind of scaring even thinking about this. When you stopped weed, did the symptoms stop or did they stay for a while? Could it be that depression manifested itself and that was a part of the reason you had these symptoms like it did to me for a while in my life when I wasn't smoking weed? Thanks
@@CrnogorskiNacionalista when you get CHS you have to pretty much stopped smoking for your pain to go away been smoking 20 years worked in the industry love pot more than anybody I had to quit 3 days ago nothing else works.
My ownanecdote;
I was wrongfully diagnosed with this a years or so ago. I wentto a gastroenterologist when I lost 100 pounds without trying. I had no appetite, I was full extremely fast, and I had a bit of vomiting if i forced myself to eat. I never got realeif from showering, I have highly active ms so I feel even worse in the shower and it an even provoke vomiting. But I smoked a lot of weed for a long time, the doctor couldn't see passed that. I ended up getting properly diagnosed and treated for gastroparesis and gastritis by my family doctor. Now I am doing better, I can eat a bit more and have much less nausea.
I still use a lot of weed every day, i would rather use that then bachlofen and I don't want to spasm out of my chair, all my doctors support the use, I was prescribed it to begin with.
denial
You have CHS
How r u now Becca?
I have just discovered that I have this after 20 years near daily use. I thought it was just my Crohn's disease and I thought I was helping it. I just went six days without and the vomiting came anyway. I guess I have to taper off. 😡😭😔
Thanks so much for the detailed information. ♥️
I've been doing hot baths and cold showers and breathing exercises. I wonder if the cold showers or breathing is making it worse?
I've been smoking for years every day multiple times and i got it a few years back weekly episodes hospital visits the lot nothing helps expect hot showers it disappeared for a year and now it's back I've been constantly smoking and never had a break during this period
The reasoning behind seemingly illogical actions can be hard to grasp. Thank you for taking the cognitive energy to have empathy for the people who are effectively medicating something in their life with cannabis. I'd be fascinated to find out if edibles or concentrates cause CHS at the same rates? Also wondering if fat store releases might intensify symptoms as those cannabinoids are chemically different and cause different effects.
Yes and yes and yes. Concentrates speeds up chs dramatically only cure is to stop
I was smoking pot heavily before I got pregnant in 2009 and as soon as I stop smoking cannabis once I found out I was pregnant I got hyper emesis grad. I then had another episode in 2018 but I was not pregnant same symptoms now I know it was cannabis hyperemesis the whole time this is my third time I will never smoke weed again my hyper emesis is really bad once I stop because it releases from my fat cells.
My doctor tried to give me methadone for this I refused whenever I was pregnant I was given reglan protonic‘s and Zofran along with Benadryl and Unisom as what my OB had prescribed in 2009. I had to find out the cause of this myself I noticed that the nausea started to really increase with the higher THC content even delta eight causes this I am now in the CHS group to try and get through this time it takes me about three months and vomiting.
Appreciate this I would smoke about 3 times a day on average but when I started smoking weed heavily late last year I started waking up after 4-6 hours of sleep and feel nauseous and if I had a bad diet I would throw up because I already have a weak stomach but even when I wouldn’t eat bad I would still throw up yellow phlegm and I been nauseous A lot lately n haven’t been able to eat so I stopped for 5 days and on day 1&2 I still throw up phlegm m but day 3 I still woke up nauseous but I started working out again n doing heavy cardio these past 2 days n I’m back to good n I eat fine so ima limit myself to 2x a week and starting working out constantly n lose body fat I’d say im about 20-25% at 175 and I wanna get it down to 10-15 n see how I turn out only doing it 20 times less a week than I would before so hopefully when I do still smoke I don’t experience chs anymore
Just read how a Canadian teen died from this very interesting
Yeah dehydration and kidney failure from all the vomiting and he was very low on fluids
I seen that crazy
yep i was throwing up for 4 days straight everything in my stomach luckily i did a ton of research and caught it when i did i got sent to ER cuz how dehydrated i was i had to get 2 full IVs and my fluids were dangerously low
@@jesse-hf8pu my potassium got so low it caused arrhythmia in my heart.
@@gptheog4667 howd you know this was the cause? Interested
I have had this syndrome twice before i was in a very stressful relationship while both events took place and since then i have started using again and have cut down on my usage but i was prescribed a capsaicin (hot pepper) cream to rub on my stomach area
Once u quit smoking ..
With me anyways ..
After about 2 weeks the pain starts going away .. It messes with your appitite and sleep
You'll kno your getting better when you start farting also your poops get bigger
I'm previous military, and have a degenerative nerve disease. I was so excited about getting out of the military, medical retirement, to actually try MM. First day officially out, I tried a small amount. Oooooo NO! I got sick and yacked everywhere. Just doesn't work for me. Haven't tried edibles yet. Maybe a slower milder means may work. I just want to get off some of my meds.
use some whole peppercorn with your cannabis... beta caryophyllene in peppercorn is a dietary cannabinoids likje found in cannabis and BCP selectively loads into cannabinoid type 2 receptors in the immune system.. this is how you can titrate any type cannabis . if you can find CBD dominant cannabis it will act @ cb2 as well
18:29 I'm sure the doctors have something for that though... most people would be up in arms trying to avoid being medicated right
I'm looking for information about CHS and the liver. I am having upper abdominal tenderness and pain with pressure. I know the liver and stomach are next to eachothher. I am getting very specific tasting burps. I'm wondering if I'm getting close to having another episode.
I am very addicted to cannabis.
I am very familiar with CHS.
My episodes last 3 to seven days. I almost die every time.
After 10 months of abstinence, I started smoking. Wasn't long before I'm daily smoking again. I've been smoking for about 5 months everyday and I've been getting mild warning signs for about 6 weeks. It started with a pounding heart and breath shortness immediately after smoking. For the last 10 days or so, I have noticed I'm having acid reflux if I eat at night. In the last week I've noticed a very mild icy hot sensation in my stomach (a whisper of the massively painful version i get while in an episode full swing). I have also recently been burpy. I am never burpy. But I am now... during the day too, but mostly at night. And its a very specific taste. I recognize it from my episodes.
This happens to me every 6 months !! All I do is take a super hot showered till I feel like I'm high, then I sleep for 15 hrs straight and I wake up brand new .... Although I have to stop for a few more days before starting again (reset period) I love weed and I'll never leave it . What goes up must come down !! No problem I'll just stop for a few days and I'm back to normal (for 6mnths)
Is there an early stage of CHS that does not involve vomiting? I have IBS type symptoms, but no "C" or "D". nasty bloating and distension, stomach/colon discomfort... I have been a daily once/day small dose cannabis user for 10+ years... could the weed be responsible?
Please try digestive enzymes, google it :)
& quit use!!
@@ferndup7378 I have... but thanks... I am thinking it may be a hormone imbalance... my Free testosterone is very low... estrogen is too high... a bad combo. Either can lead to gut problems... both? Bad news. :-(
@@GeorgeKnew Tuc. What ever works for you works
... try probiotics too 😊
@@ferndup7378 Yes, thanks again... but taking them too... I just got some kambucha and some kefir... hope it helps...
Gabapentin guys. It works wonders for CHS. Nothing worked for me except gabapentin. Capsaicin...nope. Zofran....nope. hot showers....not really. Phenergan....kind of. Gabapentin....Yes!
I suffered for 7 days of non stop severe nausea with some vomiting. Only ate a few saltines and some broth from chicken noodle soup. Severely dehydrated.
Finally got relief with gabapentin.
Did you get prescription or something can you please go into further detail I'm interested.
I've had this twice now. It is hell! Horrible Horrible stomach, neck and shoulder pain with diarrhea and vomiting. You also pour sweat to the point of dehydration. Both times hit me at 4 am and lasted 1.5 to 2 hours. Then I you feel a lot better but depression hits.
This has been the worst time of my life. I haven’t smoked in 1 day so far I’m hoping it goes away soon
My doctors said i have to stop smoking weed but i havent vomited but i do has alot of tummy pain do i have chs?
Same boat as you. I’m 20 days clean and occasionally still get the pains. Have you stopped smoking since this comment? Did you get better?
I bet supporters will say to just take CBD oil
I still threw up from cbd
@@Nightsjourney2dreams me too
This condition is absolutely debilitating. Quit before you get this is the only advice I can give you. YOU DO NOT WANT THIS CONDITION!
I end up constantly throwing up for 3 to 7 days... or until I go to the hospital
Can you have everything but the puking? I have just really good at building it back
My reliable, well taken care of car randomly breaks down and now I discover I have chs. Can't catch a break 😂
I haven’t smoked in years. However, someone offered me a drink of what I thought was alcohol and it was weed, and I should of asked but not what I’m used to. Anyway, now I’m sick every time my roomate smokes strong strains. My eyes pulse, my chest hurts, I want to vomit. They call me names and say not possible, but I’m really concerned. I feel so sick, what can I do? I’m not a hater, I just feel so sick.
I get this once every 3 weeks and it stays about 3 - 5 days of vomitting every 5-10 minutes. And it even causes insane respiratory attackd where i cant breathe for like half a hour its very very scary. They need to find an E pen or somthing for this. Been smoking 13 yrs and its too hard to stop.
Its not hard to quit you just a knock that's all
Quit best remedy ever
I believed it right away cause it is so horrible that I will never touch it again, I'm actually in a super hot bath right now
I've seen capsaisin cream used in the ED to treat CHS. The thinking is it acts like a hot bath.
I've been struggling with figuring out CHS for the past few months, had symptoms so severe I missed work, spent hours and occasionally days on the bathroom floor from the pain, and ended up in the ER after I lost weight to the point where I was considered underweight. I completely stopped smoking for 3 months, and after a week I was symptom free and working on gaining weight back. A few weeks ago I decided to experiment, and gradually started increasing the amount I was smoking until symptoms returned. It could be entirely coincidental, but my symptoms came back as soon as I was smoking slightly over a gram of concentrate in 2-3 days. That's roughly where my tolerance was when I first began having GI pain and nausea. Applying the capsaicin cream (OTC) to the stomach, symptoms were manageable at worst, completely gone at best.
I didn't expect this comment to turn into this long of a novel, but TLDR, if you're suffering from CHS, try capsaicin applied to the stomach to help with your symptoms and completely stop consuming all forms of marijuana (CBD included). I do NOT have a degree in medicine or science, I dropped out of nursing school in my 2nd year, this is simply what worked for me and I hope to pass it on in case it may help someone out there.
Edit: I did forget to mention, my blood work and urine analysis all came back clear, save that I am anemic which we already knew, and a considerable amount of THC in my system as well.
@@rach71923 Lol exactly the same with me, if i just take 2-3 dabs a day it's all fine... As soon as i am going into 24/7 dabbing i get vomit episodes in 3-4 weeks which last up to 2-3 weeks..
Marc my golly its the dabs
Marc i used to do a lot of dabs and I’ve stopped and haven’t had symptoms in a couple pf months
Very interesting presentation. Weed has been around for what, thousands of years? Why are people getting sick now? Is there scientific proof that it is actually the weed or would it be all the chemicals they are using to grow it? Or they are not flushing out the chemicals properly. Or vaping cartridges shatter sauce wasn.t made properly or made with a certain chemical that is doing this? Have you tested the actual leaves to come up with this theory? I would need to know this?
Neem oil pesticide is a major culprit .. Azadirachtin
@@mcozy333 neem oil really damn I've used that recently but ill do a bud wash i hope I don't have this problem!
With d8 on the market, CHS will likely become way more prevalent
Too much of one thing is bad
Question: what about cannabis thats high in CBD and very low THC (like 3% or less) can a person get CHS from smoking CBD a lot or is this only from THC?
i tried all that shit,, trust me,, you will still get CHS from CBD
@Joe Lev lol fool
Can you ever smoke again? Maybe micodosing? i know i have it. showers are the only thing to stop it i was in and out the hospital for 8 days and lost 14 pounds because of it and a nurse said you dont have to stop but have to cut back a lot and only smoke every now and again rarely. i dont want to chance it but at the same time it helps with my stress and its how i use to unwind i dont drink or anything but was wondering if micodosing could work ??
The way I see it is this. If you are using cannabis period you will be susceptible to chs episodes. And personally I can’t toke anymore at all because in the back of my mind I’ll be thinking about those painful chs episodes and it’s just not worth it IMO. Health over weed all dam day fam!