“You shot an enemy soldier with an anti-tank rifle.” “No, I shot his radio with an anti-tank rifle. It overpenetrated and hit him after.” “Oh well that’s okay then.”
You'd think that this would only apply to human enemies. Being mad and taking action against a soldier who used an anti-materiel weapon on the personnel of a faction that happily melts cities full of civvies for a religious high sounds kind of dumb, all things considered.
There is no limitation on caliber or size of weapon used on personal with the exception of hollow point and poisoned ammunition both being illegal in war. People get smoked by tank rounds all the time. They also get smoked by artillery all the time. Also anti-tank missile systems kill people as well.
@@benkeller4210 And the US has never signed that section that dealt with hollow point ammo but have mostly followed them. But recently weve disregarded it to get a better bullet.
Ah yes, the Stanchion- the rifle that basically says bleep you, the four guys behind you, your cover, the neighbor's dog, the truck that's driving by, and my shoulder.
The micro-gauss cannon. If only we could actually use it in game. Definitely not in normal multiplayer, but for campaign and custom games it would be great.
I've always wanted this weapon to make it to Halo games. However it clashes too much with the SRS99 Sniper Rifle, in that both are anti-materiel weapons used in an anti-personnel role. Unless its anti-materiel/vehicle aspect is severely emphasized and a charge up system is used to differentiate it from the more conventional Sniper, it makes little sense to having 2 systems that effectively work the same way. I am all for weapon variety, even if it duplicates sandbox items, but only if it is not duplicated within the same faction (unless its a special case, as was the H2 Sniper Rifle at the side of the H4/5 Sniper Rifle for sentimental reasons)
Just picture it folks, A game with the vibe of Modern Warfare set during the height of the Insurrection, You could have a night mission as an ODST with the M99 where you deploy via Pelican jump onto a building really far away and then use drones and thermals to fire through multiple buildings and objects to eliminate targets.
Consider Microsoft's purchase of Activision Blizzard to allow the team that developed call of duty (Infinity Ward, Treyarch, Sledgehammer Games) It is possible to make a call of duty type game in the halo universe using ODST as the main character. In fact, I would love to play it. Even the cutscene in the game With a third party point of view to see the Spartan as a small warship to show superhuman capabilities.
I would love a sniping mission with this in Infinite. An open world HVT hunting mission/challenge even. Yet another small feature from the HW part of the Halo universe that could inspire entire missions if implemented into the main Halo story. I can't wait to see the SOF show up, the potential for gameplay is ridiculous.
In the case of 50 BMG I agree that the near miss is almost certainly a myth however given the description of what the stanchion does on target it's reasonable to me that they may be insinuating that the impact could create enough of a shock or for that matter throw enough shrapnel to be deadly to the nearby target if they are close enough to the impact.
I mean a near miss from a hypersonic projectile would have a sonic boom, meaning at the minimum it could rupture your ear drums at a near miss unless you're wearing some serious ear pro
On the near-miss problem, since the tungsten slug is traveling at hypersonic speeds, it is bound to have a bow shock around the bullet. I think no matter how aerodynamic the bullet is, if it is traveling at speeds > Mach 5 there is a bow shock that may inflict damage on nearby enemies in its wake.
The .50bmg doesn't have enough velocity for the shock wave to be lethal. But for a projectile moving at the hypersonics, Johnson's round probably took less than a second from his position to the target. Even a blunt nose wouldn't have slowed the round enough for a non lethal shock. Plus the Soviet Union, and to a good extent the US, have done research into weaponizing shockwaves by using aircraft. Russia built a purpose made aircraft for the idea and the US uses the B-1B at low attitude and high speed to scare bad guys.
@Falcon_by_the_lake The bullet was described to be shot at 15km/s, over double that of most orbital velocities, so I’d think the slug would also exhibit a double sonic boom.
I'm wondering what this thing would do to a Scarab. It could probably penetrate the armour so how much damage would it do to the colony?. If a shot was placed at a joint, assuming it penetrates, how much would it slow it down? If it could slow it down or mobility kill it this would be a good weapon to slow covenant assaults by limiting the Scarab from kilometers away. I assume a Hunter would recreate that scene with Durge from the 2003 Clone Wars cartoons lol.
@@bable6314 Only the top of the limbs and hull have the starship armour. Also the best 90mm tank shell ever developed on earth has around 11.2 inches of penetration on steel. If a Scorpion can damage the limbs with a 90mm gun even if the shell has twice the penetration as our best tank shell that is ~23 inches of penetration. Compared to the M99's 12 inches of titanium penetration the odds don't seem so bad.
I love the fact that the Stanchion made another appearance in Silent Storm where John and blue team (including A.J. Johnson) were using them in zero g to board and destroy Covenant vessels. It went onto further describe it's lethality against Covenant targets.
Landed ? Shit the UNSC would have murder them at the first contact meeting on Harvest. Then again the Nova Bomb was designed to be used in naval combat against fleets. The Covenant wouldn't have gotten past Harvest.
I'd love to see this against the flood. Too bad we'll probably never see dynamic injuries in the halo games. It'd be amazing to see an elite's torso be taken off. Or a combat form explode
I mean the flood did technically have dynamic injuries in Halo 2 and 3, you could shoot their arms off, completely destroy their bodies and in Halo 3 you could shoot some other parts of combat forms off, like the head of the infected elite
A projectile that small would bleed energy at an atrocious rate in atmosphere. Suffice to say there is A reason even 75-77gr 5.56 rarely kills people beyond 700 yards.
Halo Wars games have tons of great stuff but neglected due to " reasons" Anyway! The Stanchion is among my top 3 favorite UNSC weapons alongside SAW and DMR/ Bandit. The big S is a friggin metal slugging beast! And I NEED it in H.I !/ Halo FPs games
"Corporal, you do understand that antimaterial weaponry is to be used only against equipment. Why did you shoot that man in the head?" "Sir I was aiming do destroy equipment" "And what equipment would that be, corporal?" "His helmet strap, sir" "Out fucking standing. Here's a challenge coin"
I don’t understand why the UNSC never designed a stanction hmg for Spartans to use that draws power from the mjoinier fusion pack. Imagine an automatic stanction on a Spartan like Jorge. Absolutely terrifying.
Great video as usual! small nitpick, though: the anti-insurrectionist operation from the opening of "Contact Harvest" took place on the world of Tribute, an inner colony world in the epsilon eridani system.
Technically a round dose create a low pressure/vacuum area behind it. scaled up or higher speed will increase that effect. Great example is a sabo round going through a tank. The vacuum it creates will suck anything inside out the hole. But that's way above 50cal.
I love how this thing looks in Infinite. I think it would’ve been super fun if equipping the weapon model and killing an enemy with it made the ragdoll significantly stronger. I know they’d have to change a lot of stuff, but that’d be so fun.
Two things I can think of when you talk about this M99. 1) That to get a recol-less would be a trick. But I believe it could be done with offset gyroscopes. Couple at 45° or computer controlled angles. That doesn't ground out the barrel or short any coils. Would stop that recoil and depending on how much mass is being used. Could even help with holding it (see videos of people holding spinning weights at length). 2) Round if you use a smart/programmable material. That Could change shape at distance traveled or proximity. We have this now. I'd hate to see what 100 plus years of RND or a zero g dark site could come up with.
2:08 that's a myth IRL that supposly got started because a commander got tired of his shoulder wasting their machine gun ammo of infantry. In fact it's Easly disproven by the fact tithe US still straps .50 cals to everything for mainly ani-infantry work.
I do know that there have been well documented cases from the “gunpowder age” where soldiers will die from a near miss by a cannonball with seemingly no external injuries. I actually watched a show where they broke this down and how it happened but I can’t remember where I saw it. But that is the only case I can think of where a near miss by a projectile will kill
Good vid, but a minor correction: There's no ban in the Laws of War (which encompasses things like the GCs, Hague Conventions, and more) against using AMRs nor equivalently punchy HMGs nor anything else with more oomph against dismounted infantry, thus there's no need for a loophole like shooting at a grunt's kit. That's a common myth that usually centers around the M2HB HMG (there's a similar myth about being a war crime to shoot at airborne troops with a .50cal). So the M99 should be completely fair to use against infantry as much as, say, the M82 AMR in real life (and it commonly is used against infantry by snipers). It's a very easy myth to stumble across, though, and it has been believed even by some military servicemembers, much less civilians unlikely to use such a weapon. So don't feel too bad about it. Great content and I look forward to more. :)
This thing should honestly be standard-issue for Spartans at this point. You could rig it up to be powered by Mjolnir, and some of the sensor systems and helmet attachments for the Gen-3 armor might be good enough to run the weapon at its full potential without the need for a portable computer or support drones. If Mjolnir can support an AI, you can bet that it has enough computing power to accurately and instantly predict the exact trajectory and effect of the rounds for this weapon. Now imagine how much more effective this thing would be in Linda's hands, especially if they can charge the dang thing a lot faster with some of the more recent tech
It's still 2 meters long. Yes a Spartan could probably shoulder fire it but it would probably be akward as hell to use (take a 2 meter long stick and shoulder it like a rifle and try to take into an enclosed space)
The M99 is going to be pretty loud when firing, the round will still shatter the sound barrier giving off a LOT of noise. That's why modern guns use subsonic ammo when using suppressors and actually trying to be "quiet".
2 things to note about this weapon's fesibility, a .21 cal sabot dart at just under 50000 fps would likley disintegrate when it strikes something solid, tungsten is hard but not indestructible, and would probably shatter. Secondly pointed nose bullets deviate in their trajectory substantially when passing though anything denser than air, so predicting it's path of flight through solid targets would be near impossible. Just as an additional note, conventional firearms not working in a vaccum is a myth, gunpowder does not require atmospheric oxygen to burn.
I actually forgot to mention too, Bullets don't need to be pointy to move that fast. All bullets can be accelerated to the same speeds, aerodynamics only effect the bullet's retained speed down range, as all bullet acceleration is occurring only in the barrel not in the air like a plane.
two things first is that you have to be careful around tanks when they are firing you also have to be cautious around battleship turrets when they fire because of the blast wave same reasons why you have a safe blast radius around explosions
Given that this weapon was a creation of Joseph Staten, I wonder if he tried to get this into Halo 3 or Reach but cut it for time or for role overlap with the other sniper rifles and heavy weapons in those games, given it would probably do what the spartan laser, sniper rifle, beam rifle, focus rifle, plasma launcher etc. are all capable of in one weapon. A very cool weapon nonetheless that flies under the radar.
A recoilless rifle usually is a type of rocket launcher, the gases exiting from the back of the tube is what make it "recoilless", but the m99 has a stock soooo i don't know how that works
A solid slug going that fast would actually deliver little energy on an organic body, poking a small, .21 caliber hole straight through almost like a laser. Energy is delivered or “dumped” into a target only when the target slows the projectile. The energy of the projectile after it passed through the target is energy that was not delivered to the target. Modern day hunters often choose expanding bullets such that the diameter roughly doubles once impacting an organic target, increasing drag and simultaneously damaging more tissue. If the projectile stops within the animal, that means all of the kinetic energy of the projectile has been absorbed, leading to devastating damage!to vital organs. Shooting an animal with a high velocity, non-expanding bullet which just passes through like a needle through tissue paper may still poke a hole in the vital organs, thus leading to hemorrhaging, but the animal may not even notice it’s been shot until internal bleeding catches up with it and it keels over, I know this is just video game lore, but it seems bizarre to me to me that they got the physics so wrong. Again: target still likely dead, but the vast majority of the kinetic energy of the projectile was delivered to the asphalt beyond the target, and without an expanding projectile, the target would absolutely not explode.
@@tristanbackup2536 I think that's why the UNSC uses HUD systems and targeting systems with the rifle. Then again their standard "assault rifle" is actually a 7.62x51mm bullpup design light machine gun with a muzzle velocity of a modern .50cal rifle. As in the MA5 's muzzle velocity is 905m/s or 3,258 kph. And it's 750 to 900 rpm of automatic fire doesn't help much with keeping the weapon on target. Of course we're talking about the sand military that nuked a planet because the planetary governor sided with the Insurrectionist.
How the hell we we didn't get this in Infinite with it's open world is beyond me.... perfect reason to bring this beast into a first person Halo Even back in Halo 2 or 3 instead of Johnson running around with a sniper or laser he should have been throwing this thing around
Okay wait... Bullets break the sound barrier when fired, right? That happens with a low caliber bullet even. Breaking the sound barrier means there's going to be a ripple effect [shockwave], whether it's aerodynamic or not. Jets make sonic booms that can destroy glass windows from a distance and they're designed to be aerodynamic. Rockets also create a shockwave when they're launched and they are VERY aerodynamic. They have to be in order to punch through the atmosphere. How would a near miss not kill? That makes zero sense coming from a physics perspective.
Everything you listed is BIG. Even .50 BMG is not big enough to kill with the shockwave. Jet shockwaves break glass yeah? But they don't kill people. .50 BMG passing by windows within inches has been demonstrated on youtube no less, probably by demo ranch, that it doesn't even break windows. You have the idea of shockwaves but aren't registering the size difference of the shockwaves. Jets, rockets, explosions. They make big shockwaves. Explosions make shrapnel. Same with round impacts. Not sure we have any infantry used non explosive rounds that are lethal via shockwave
On the subject of recoil - fit the weapon with a counterweight, so when the small bullet is accelerated forwards, a much larger and heavier block of metal is pushed backwards against a spring.
maybe near miss was meant like shot landed close to target and the resulting shrapnell etc could be deadly . also i think the production of this weapon ceased because of the appearance of the spartanlaser , and covenant armor being either to strong , so they need bigger mounted gauss cannons , or light enough that it could be dealt with the standart issiue sniper rifle.
Going Mach 43.6 would generate tons of friction at a low atmosphere... the round would basically melt and disopate, even being hyper-aerodynamic. At 3422°C, that's 6191.6° Freedom, is the melting point of tungsten... A shell would have to cover the round as a potentially sacrificial as it reaches the max speed before slowing down. Here's the other problem... how do you get it out of the tube? Solution: magnetic metals/alloys... but with the comparative melting temperatures that of butter, it could coat the would evaporate away within the first few nanoseconds. Mass, surface area, and velocity squared is basically how you defeat armor. So basically, without going into the math... what I am saying is simply: The rounds themselves would be very costly to manufacture. The fact that its range would be limited due to possible friction evaporation depending on atmospheric pressure and density you could see as long as indefinitely due to its ability to operate in space or as short as 2 miles before the round would tumble and accuracy would be compromised... At Mach 43.6, at 2 miles, it would only drop by less than a centimeter... literally so fast that when planetary rotation would only move it a few millimeters. However, all that is using a modern understanding of aerodynamics. Hyper-aerodynamic, one could theorize that it could pass through liquids just as easily as gas. So just using the magnetic coating over the tungsten, it would more or less act like a hole punch to paper... on a person. It would cauterize making vital shots more important than more convenient weapons. I'm no expert by any means, and a lot of this is speculative... either way I doubt the performance of the M99's rounds of going Mach 43.6. Using kilometers would be more acceptable. 9 miles per second is ridiculous for a gauss rifle's round of any kind to be fired and survive even a mile at 5.4mm made out of pure tungsten... and to contain the magnets power that you don't atmoize things by accident. I'm no scientist but I'm sure that even accelerating those rounds to those speeds could cause the end of the rifle to explode. The more I think about it the more unlikely the book is correct in the M99's capabilities.
In-game the M99 Stanchion would be an amazing pickup for anti-vehicle combat. Acting like the Forerunner Binary Rifle in a way, but with the ability to over-penitrate just about everything. Making sniping people out of the seats of vehicles possible, and without exactly destroying them, unless you hit their weak spots. Ammo racks, engines... fuel cells. It would end up being a very high skill ceiling weapon IF that dynamic was added to halo in full and not just a gemic of past games.
Wind down is a thing with 120mm tank main guns in the real world but that is for targetry on ranges and not against living targets as far as I'm aware.
This is very dependent on near miss location but if it is legitimately a very close miss sub 3 inches and near the ears or eyes it may create a pressure wave powerfull enough to do serious damage. In demo ranch example 1 .50 bmg isn't enough but the 70 bmg equivalent force may be
16:17 I think that any legal or ethical factors contributing to the weapon's discontinued manufacture and use in the wider UNSC would be almost immediately ignored when dealing with the Covenant, who are a nonhuman, technologically-superior, and completely genocidal foe.
I imagine how this would be used by sniper teams is that they would have to assemble the rifle on the spot because lugging it around would be completely impractical especially when you are trying not to be seen behind enemy lines, then when they need to escape they would dissasemble the rifle and go, or just take the bolt of the weapon, rendering it unable to fire, and leave the rest of the rifle there. Apparently SAS do the same thing when they bring snipers with them, they take the bolt out of the rifle and just leave it there while they escape, so they don't have to carry the extra weight (since the sniper is also carrying a standard assault rifle with him)
A near miss lethal shot would need a round that would be tumbling. I'd love to see if someone could do the math on a round like that for its ballistic coefficient. .408 and. 375 CheyTac are known to having excellent ballistic coefficient. Current long range target shot record was just broken with .375 CheyTac out of an M200 Intervention. Edit: I wonder near miss could include what would be considered as a bullet graze? Technically still a hit, but would tear flesh. So instead of hitting the main part of the body or limbs, I wonder what bullet graze would do, especially at hyper sonic velocities.
I agree that I believe a grazing shot is classified as a "near miss." With the forces at play that still could potentially take a limb off. And for sake of argument the environment also isn't taken into account. Shrapnel from any source has the potential to be lethal.
A graze the shockwave might push the wound open more. Could be nasty. But what does the damage that tears flesh is fluid dynamics. If that shock isn't on flesh you're probably gonna be fine. If it grazes your neck, or near important veins and arteries the shock MIGHT open or pinch them.
The Geneva convention is regarding treatment of POWs. The Hague convention restricts weapons. the primary restrictions on anti material rifles I am pretty sure was the St. Petersburg declaration. The latter would absolutely find the Needler, fuel rod gun and Spiker guns major violations.
Idk. Fuel rod would probably qualify as ordinance and be as fine as 40mm genades. Needler might fall under explosive rounds and is probably not ok. Spiker idk the part wrong with it but probably the same as why ballistic knives (probably) aren't allowed
@installation00 it is not against the Geneva convention to use anti-material rounds against infantry the only reason that was brought up was to save money on ammunition.
Would love to see this as an actual weapon in the games, perhaps as a slow scope or a small charge to fire it? Maybe it could have the same anti vehicle properties as the Reach Sniper?
The only thing I can think of to justify the near miss thing is if the near miss is a nearby hit on something else, like say the wall behind the target. That much energy might throw something back on contact.
Maybe the near miss lethality is meaning the explosion landing near a target rather than passing by in the air. Like the gauss cannon. You don't need to get a direct hit, just near enough that a 5psi or greater shock wave from an impact hits your target
The round CAN be lethal with near misses, look up flechette rounds, they’re hypersonic darts used by modern militaries, near misses do kill enemy combatants
Being generous to the statement "even a near miss can kill" it may be trying to (badly) say that shrapnel or spalling from a nearby impact could be lethal, rather than "sonic boom make you dead". Though I imagine there's going to be a pretty loud sonic boom as it zips past you, though probably not enough to damage anything substantial. Though if a projectile going 19 kilometers a second did very closely zip past you (by my calculations that's fast enough to get from London to Edinburgh in around 34 seconds) you may just have a heart attack if you knew what it was.
The lore does specify the projectile is a slug. Slugs aren't exactly aerodynamic irl... think more torpedo shape. I imagine the weapon is more or less brute forcing the projectile to its target velocity. Now velocity + shape is going to give you some interesting cavitation and heating effects you wouldn't see with traditional Spitzer style ammunition
I only heard of this rifle due to a Fallout 4 mod which adds most of plasma/ballistic armory of Halo This rifle is explosively one of the most deadly weapons in Fallout 4 - Paladin Danse uses it with lethal efficiency Hilariously the gun is nearly 2-3x larger than the Halo size.
This is halo's take on the exitus rifle wielded by vandicare assassins from warhammer 40k.. Read about that rifle.. It's insane what it can do as well as what the assassin can do.. One example is an assassin that was strapped to the roof of an aircraft and managed to hit her target while the aircraft was upside down..
Just a note, the term "recoilless rifle" doesn't actually imply the lack of felt recoil on the shooter. It's moreso a description of operation. Many recoilless rifles are effectively rocket launchers in a sense.
I like that it can fire through 2 reinforced walls without the bullet shattering, yet a soft fleshy target causes the bullet to shatter? If this thing penetrates that hard, it's essentially a needle gun (not needler, the more general sci fi concept) which is great for armor penetration but... shooting a tiny hole through someone doesn't actually do a lot of damage. It's the bullet slowing down inside you that does the damage.
Enough to remove an elite hat at 2000 yards, generally Elite Minors can loose a head even with energy Shields, High ranking Elites and Brutes probably can take a bit more..., the Stanchion makes de Normal Sniper look like a Musket.
The SRS99 can take the hat off an Elite at 2000 yards. The M99 Stanchion can take the Elite off an Elite's boots at 4000 yards.
Probably 8000 yards 😂
and they ain’t cheap
Don't you mean banish to the shadow realms
Can dematerialize an elite at 4 miles
@@saboosh1013 better than a bunch of rocks huu rahh
“You shot an enemy soldier with an anti-tank rifle.”
“No, I shot his radio with an anti-tank rifle. It overpenetrated and hit him after.”
“Oh well that’s okay then.”
You'd think that this would only apply to human enemies. Being mad and taking action against a soldier who used an anti-materiel weapon on the personnel of a faction that happily melts cities full of civvies for a religious high sounds kind of dumb, all things considered.
@@fadelsukoco3092 Well it's not a war crime the first time!
@@fadelsukoco3092 the covenant is not a signatory of the geneva convention yes
There is no limitation on caliber or size of weapon used on personal with the exception of hollow point and poisoned ammunition both being illegal in war. People get smoked by tank rounds all the time. They also get smoked by artillery all the time. Also anti-tank missile systems kill people as well.
@@benkeller4210 And the US has never signed that section that dealt with hollow point ammo but have mostly followed them. But recently weve disregarded it to get a better bullet.
"I was trying to destroy his helmet, not my fault his brain got in the way"
And the house and two concrete walls.
And their hot water heater, family dog, the rear axle on their car, underground gas pipeline, and government owned blast shelter two miles away
@@nexusomega1 and the ONI base underground close to a Forerunner facility
@Alexis Baz Just a heads up, I'm pretty sure you'll hear knocking on your door any moment now.
@@leonelimalevu2199 dude, I'm scared now, don't say that
Ah yes, the Stanchion- the rifle that basically says bleep you, the four guys behind you, your cover, the neighbor's dog, the truck that's driving by, and my shoulder.
Not the shoulder, this thing has very low recoil for a weapon of its power.
@@nineisamagicnumber Ah it was just a reference to a funny saying I've heard thrown around regarding firearms with ridiculous power
@@teamancilla6226bruh
I've fired a .50 cal that had a tank break, and it still destroys the shoulder. Can't imagine how bad the M99 hurts.
The M99 Stanchion, because the UNSC took the term 'You're going to Brazil' to heart
The micro-gauss cannon. If only we could actually use it in game. Definitely not in normal multiplayer, but for campaign and custom games it would be great.
Sniper headshots are one shot one kill anyways so is rail gun I don't see a problem with having it in multiplayer just people with no skill complain
@@rushpatriot2866 perhaps make it a heavy weapon with a movement penalty 🤔
@@stephenzavatski8016 This. If you want the super sniper, you can't move quickly lol
I've always wanted this weapon to make it to Halo games.
However it clashes too much with the SRS99 Sniper Rifle, in that both are anti-materiel weapons used in an anti-personnel role.
Unless its anti-materiel/vehicle aspect is severely emphasized and a charge up system is used to differentiate it from the more conventional Sniper, it makes little sense to having 2 systems that effectively work the same way.
I am all for weapon variety, even if it duplicates sandbox items, but only if it is not duplicated within the same faction (unless its a special case, as was the H2 Sniper Rifle at the side of the H4/5 Sniper Rifle for sentimental reasons)
@@stephenzavatski8016 yeah sounds perfect actually
"Shouldn't be used against infantry
**looks at a brute chieftain**
-Your point being ?"
The laws of war as written apply only to humans actions against humans, so anything goes against aliens.
Yes, I studied law at university 😅
Just picture it folks, A game with the vibe of Modern Warfare set during the height of the Insurrection, You could have a night mission as an ODST with the M99 where you deploy via Pelican jump onto a building really far away and then use drones and thermals to fire through multiple buildings and objects to eliminate targets.
yo... being able to finally use those MA5K and M6J Carbines that were only mentioned and shown on the books would be cool too,
This literally happened in the Contact Harvest book.
Consider Microsoft's purchase of Activision Blizzard
to allow the team that developed call of duty
(Infinity Ward, Treyarch, Sledgehammer Games)
It is possible to make a call of duty type game in the halo universe using ODST as the main character.
In fact, I would love to play it.
Even the cutscene in the game
With a third party point of view to see the Spartan as a small warship to show superhuman capabilities.
@@orionakd I wonder if it'll sell though. Like this could be crazy!
Got to use the Stanchion once in an ODST OP in Arma. Nasty piece of work.
Yessirrrr it absolutely is. What unit did you run it with?
@@razavuzamai114 105th STB
Isn’t that Sorensic’s unit? Sounds very familiar
@@razavuzamai114 not that I know of.
Pop goes the opfor.
I would love a sniping mission with this in Infinite. An open world HVT hunting mission/challenge even.
Yet another small feature from the HW part of the Halo universe that could inspire entire missions if implemented into the main Halo story. I can't wait to see the SOF show up, the potential for gameplay is ridiculous.
Proably my favorite Halo Gun, the design is sick.
Playing with it in Fallout 4. Mods are great and specially the ones that are so well done
Geneva Conventions turn into Geneva Suggestions when its a fuckin alien invasion.
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In the case of 50 BMG I agree that the near miss is almost certainly a myth however given the description of what the stanchion does on target it's reasonable to me that they may be insinuating that the impact could create enough of a shock or for that matter throw enough shrapnel to be deadly to the nearby target if they are close enough to the impact.
I mean a near miss from a hypersonic projectile would have a sonic boom, meaning at the minimum it could rupture your ear drums at a near miss unless you're wearing some serious ear pro
On the near-miss problem, since the tungsten slug is traveling at hypersonic speeds, it is bound to have a bow shock around the bullet. I think no matter how aerodynamic the bullet is, if it is traveling at speeds > Mach 5 there is a bow shock that may inflict damage on nearby enemies in its wake.
The .50bmg doesn't have enough velocity for the shock wave to be lethal. But for a projectile moving at the hypersonics, Johnson's round probably took less than a second from his position to the target. Even a blunt nose wouldn't have slowed the round enough for a non lethal shock. Plus the Soviet Union, and to a good extent the US, have done research into weaponizing shockwaves by using aircraft. Russia built a purpose made aircraft for the idea and the US uses the B-1B at low attitude and high speed to scare bad guys.
Still very likely not nearly powerful enough of a shockwave to inflict actual damage to a target on a near-miss.
@Falcon_by_the_lake The bullet was described to be shot at 15km/s, over double that of most orbital velocities, so I’d think the slug would also exhibit a double sonic boom.
@@LDSG_A_Team Your ear drums and possibly the splitting headache from the sonic boom wouldn't be thanking you for surviving that one .
I'm still so in love with this since the start, you're like "gun jesus" but for halo 😁
Atriox be sweating if Chief gets his hands on one of these.
For real
I'm wondering what this thing would do to a Scarab. It could probably penetrate the armour so how much damage would it do to the colony?. If a shot was placed at a joint, assuming it penetrates, how much would it slow it down? If it could slow it down or mobility kill it this would be a good weapon to slow covenant assaults by limiting the Scarab from kilometers away. I assume a Hunter would recreate that scene with Durge from the 2003 Clone Wars cartoons lol.
very probable considering how powerful weapon it is
Scarabs have thick starship-grade armor. It probably wouldn't pierce.
@@bable6314 Only the top of the limbs and hull have the starship armour. Also the best 90mm tank shell ever developed on earth has around 11.2 inches of penetration on steel. If a Scorpion can damage the limbs with a 90mm gun even if the shell has twice the penetration as our best tank shell that is ~23 inches of penetration. Compared to the M99's 12 inches of titanium penetration the odds don't seem so bad.
@@bable6314 maybe it would or maybe It wouldn't
if nothing else it could realistically sever a Scarabs leg or several if the angle was right
I love the fact that the Stanchion made another appearance in Silent Storm where John and blue team (including A.J. Johnson) were using them in zero g to board and destroy Covenant vessels. It went onto further describe it's lethality against Covenant targets.
If we had a Halo RPG i would love for this to be one of the guns we can unlock or something.
That's what Infinite is supposed to be but I don't remember seeing this in it
this is my dream weapon to be added into any halo game, just how cool it looks, the lore of it's usage and ridiculousness of it is just great.
If the unsc invested more in gauss weapons, where Spartans carried a semi auto Gauss rifle, the covenant wouldn’t have even landed on Reach.
Landed ? Shit the UNSC would have murder them at the first contact meeting on Harvest.
Then again the Nova Bomb was designed to be used in naval combat against fleets. The Covenant wouldn't have gotten past Harvest.
I'd love to see this against the flood. Too bad we'll probably never see dynamic injuries in the halo games. It'd be amazing to see an elite's torso be taken off. Or a combat form explode
I mean the flood did technically have dynamic injuries in Halo 2 and 3, you could shoot their arms off, completely destroy their bodies and in Halo 3 you could shoot some other parts of combat forms off, like the head of the infected elite
bold of you to assume we'll see the flood again
@@azurehorizon6097 I have no idea how I forgot about that.
I knew this was powerful but DAMN! 71 .50 cal BMGs?! Sheesh!
A projectile that small would bleed energy at an atrocious rate in atmosphere. Suffice to say there is A reason even 75-77gr 5.56 rarely kills people beyond 700 yards.
Halo Wars games have tons of great stuff but neglected due to " reasons" Anyway! The Stanchion is among my top 3 favorite UNSC weapons alongside SAW and DMR/ Bandit. The big S is a friggin metal slugging beast! And I NEED it in H.I !/ Halo FPs games
Hopefully Tatanka has more weapon options and maybe even some weapon modularity.
"Corporal, you do understand that antimaterial weaponry is to be used only against equipment. Why did you shoot that man in the head?"
"Sir I was aiming do destroy equipment"
"And what equipment would that be, corporal?"
"His helmet strap, sir"
"Out fucking standing. Here's a challenge coin"
With new tech we've gotten after the war this would be a great weapon to retro fit for Spartans.
I don’t understand why the UNSC never designed a stanction hmg for Spartans to use that draws power from the mjoinier fusion pack. Imagine an automatic stanction on a Spartan like Jorge. Absolutely terrifying.
Little known fact this rifle fires yugioh cards, namely completed exodia. It does this so it can send the enemy to the shadow realm.
Imagine what Linda could do with a Stanchion.
That would be terrifying. because she has a lot of experience of using Sniper Rifles in the past just by training.
Great video as usual!
small nitpick, though: the anti-insurrectionist operation from the opening of "Contact Harvest" took place on the world of Tribute, an inner colony world in the epsilon eridani system.
Technically a round dose create a low pressure/vacuum area behind it. scaled up or higher speed will increase that effect. Great example is a sabo round going through a tank. The vacuum it creates will suck anything inside out the hole. But that's way above 50cal.
Well good thing the Geneva suggestion only applies to human combatants
There's a version of this gun in the Fallout 4 Misriah Armory mod and it DELETES Deathclaws, it's hilariously overpowered lmao.
I always took "near misses can be lethal" to mean "if it hits something frangible, _that_ explosion of shrapnel will getcha."
I love how this thing looks in Infinite. I think it would’ve been super fun if equipping the weapon model and killing an enemy with it made the ragdoll significantly stronger. I know they’d have to change a lot of stuff, but that’d be so fun.
Two things I can think of when you talk about this M99.
1) That to get a recol-less would be a trick. But I believe it could be done with offset gyroscopes. Couple at 45° or computer controlled angles. That doesn't ground out the barrel or short any coils. Would stop that recoil and depending on how much mass is being used. Could even help with holding it (see videos of people holding spinning weights at length).
2) Round if you use a smart/programmable material. That Could change shape at distance traveled or proximity. We have this now. I'd hate to see what 100 plus years of RND or a zero g dark site could come up with.
2:08 that's a myth IRL that supposly got started because a commander got tired of his shoulder wasting their machine gun ammo of infantry. In fact it's Easly disproven by the fact tithe US still straps .50 cals to everything for mainly ani-infantry work.
I do know that there have been well documented cases from the “gunpowder age” where soldiers will die from a near miss by a cannonball with seemingly no external injuries. I actually watched a show where they broke this down and how it happened but I can’t remember where I saw it. But that is the only case I can think of where a near miss by a projectile will kill
Gunpowder age cannonballs we’re not super aerodynamic so they created shockwaves and turbulent air. Modern bullets and shells do not though
I remember one talking about splintering and shrapnel but never the shockwave of the flight.
Good vid, but a minor correction: There's no ban in the Laws of War (which encompasses things like the GCs, Hague Conventions, and more) against using AMRs nor equivalently punchy HMGs nor anything else with more oomph against dismounted infantry, thus there's no need for a loophole like shooting at a grunt's kit.
That's a common myth that usually centers around the M2HB HMG (there's a similar myth about being a war crime to shoot at airborne troops with a .50cal).
So the M99 should be completely fair to use against infantry as much as, say, the M82 AMR in real life (and it commonly is used against infantry by snipers).
It's a very easy myth to stumble across, though, and it has been believed even by some military servicemembers, much less civilians unlikely to use such a weapon. So don't feel too bad about it. Great content and I look forward to more. :)
At this point I am convinced that someone in higher command made that shit up to try to save some money on ammo lol.
@@John2r1 It is... I well say no more under threat of death (this is a joke for legal reasons)
Remember, Demolition Ranch is a Doctor…. Sort of. Lol I love it when he says that. This was an awesome video.
Johnson turns the Geneva Convention into the Geneva Suggestion.
This thing should honestly be standard-issue for Spartans at this point. You could rig it up to be powered by Mjolnir, and some of the sensor systems and helmet attachments for the Gen-3 armor might be good enough to run the weapon at its full potential without the need for a portable computer or support drones. If Mjolnir can support an AI, you can bet that it has enough computing power to accurately and instantly predict the exact trajectory and effect of the rounds for this weapon.
Now imagine how much more effective this thing would be in Linda's hands, especially if they can charge the dang thing a lot faster with some of the more recent tech
It's still 2 meters long. Yes a Spartan could probably shoulder fire it but it would probably be akward as hell to use (take a 2 meter long stick and shoulder it like a rifle and try to take into an enclosed space)
The M99 is going to be pretty loud when firing, the round will still shatter the sound barrier giving off a LOT of noise.
That's why modern guns use subsonic ammo when using suppressors and actually trying to be "quiet".
UNSC had this crazy rifle... but yet the normal assault rifle in the first game can't hit the water while stranded in the Atlantic ocean
Facts. I wish they'd redesign the damn thing already.
If I ever do a Halo cosplay, I would love this as my chosen Spartan weapon lol
2 things to note about this weapon's fesibility, a .21 cal sabot dart at just under 50000 fps would likley disintegrate when it strikes something solid, tungsten is hard but not indestructible, and would probably shatter. Secondly pointed nose bullets deviate in their trajectory substantially when passing though anything denser than air, so predicting it's path of flight through solid targets would be near impossible.
Just as an additional note, conventional firearms not working in a vaccum is a myth, gunpowder does not require atmospheric oxygen to burn.
I actually forgot to mention too, Bullets don't need to be pointy to move that fast. All bullets can be accelerated to the same speeds, aerodynamics only effect the bullet's retained speed down range, as all bullet acceleration is occurring only in the barrel not in the air like a plane.
two things first is that you have to be careful around tanks when they are firing you also have to be cautious around battleship turrets when they fire because of the blast wave same reasons why you have a safe blast radius around explosions
Same reason you don't have your thumb on the cylinder gap of a revolver
Given that this weapon was a creation of Joseph Staten, I wonder if he tried to get this into Halo 3 or Reach but cut it for time or for role overlap with the other sniper rifles and heavy weapons in those games, given it would probably do what the spartan laser, sniper rifle, beam rifle, focus rifle, plasma launcher etc. are all capable of in one weapon. A very cool weapon nonetheless that flies under the radar.
Remember: It’s only a warcrime if you lose
when you said the geneva convention doesn't apply I couldn't stop myself from saying "oh yeah thats what I like to hear baby"
Literally could not be more pleased to see that you did this after our talk, good stuff man!
A recoilless rifle usually is a type of rocket launcher, the gases exiting from the back of the tube is what make it "recoilless", but the m99 has a stock soooo i don't know how that works
A solid slug going that fast would actually deliver little energy on an organic body, poking a small, .21 caliber hole straight through almost like a laser. Energy is delivered or “dumped” into a target only when the target slows the projectile. The energy of the projectile after it passed through the target is energy that was not delivered to the target. Modern day hunters often choose expanding bullets such that the diameter roughly doubles once impacting an organic target, increasing drag and simultaneously damaging more tissue. If the projectile stops within the animal, that means all of the kinetic energy of the projectile has been absorbed, leading to devastating damage!to vital organs. Shooting an animal with a high velocity, non-expanding bullet which just passes through like a needle through tissue paper may still poke a hole in the vital organs, thus leading to hemorrhaging, but the animal may not even notice it’s been shot until internal bleeding catches up with it and it keels over, I know this is just video game lore, but it seems bizarre to me to me that they got the physics so wrong. Again: target still likely dead, but the vast majority of the kinetic energy of the projectile was delivered to the asphalt beyond the target, and without an expanding projectile, the target would absolutely not explode.
So 54,000km/h? That's ridiculously fast & overkill for anti-personnel. Even with the most advance armour systems, it'll go right through like butter.
I think that was the original ideal.
@@John2r1
I'll be worried about overpenetration.
@@tristanbackup2536 I think that's why the UNSC uses HUD systems and targeting systems with the rifle.
Then again their standard "assault rifle" is actually a 7.62x51mm bullpup design light machine gun with a muzzle velocity of a modern .50cal rifle. As in the MA5 's muzzle velocity is 905m/s or 3,258 kph. And it's 750 to 900 rpm of automatic fire doesn't help much with keeping the weapon on target.
Of course we're talking about the sand military that nuked a planet because the planetary governor sided with the Insurrectionist.
How the hell we we didn't get this in Infinite with it's open world is beyond me.... perfect reason to bring this beast into a first person Halo
Even back in Halo 2 or 3 instead of Johnson running around with a sniper or laser he should have been throwing this thing around
From what I've seen. Its not illegal in current times to use anti-material rounds against people. Its just overkill in most cases
Iirc (for the love of the forerunners don't quote me) the myth was an excuse used to stop soldiers from wasting anti materiel munitions
Okay wait... Bullets break the sound barrier when fired, right? That happens with a low caliber bullet even. Breaking the sound barrier means there's going to be a ripple effect [shockwave], whether it's aerodynamic or not. Jets make sonic booms that can destroy glass windows from a distance and they're designed to be aerodynamic. Rockets also create a shockwave when they're launched and they are VERY aerodynamic. They have to be in order to punch through the atmosphere. How would a near miss not kill? That makes zero sense coming from a physics perspective.
Everything you listed is BIG. Even .50 BMG is not big enough to kill with the shockwave. Jet shockwaves break glass yeah? But they don't kill people. .50 BMG passing by windows within inches has been demonstrated on youtube no less, probably by demo ranch, that it doesn't even break windows. You have the idea of shockwaves but aren't registering the size difference of the shockwaves. Jets, rockets, explosions. They make big shockwaves. Explosions make shrapnel. Same with round impacts. Not sure we have any infantry used non explosive rounds that are lethal via shockwave
I wonder what this weapon would do to a Spartan, assuming they had no plot armor
This weapon would be the perfect rail gun replacement in infinite.
Why not both
On the subject of recoil - fit the weapon with a counterweight, so when the small bullet is accelerated forwards, a much larger and heavier block of metal is pushed backwards against a spring.
Interesting 🤔
but id imagine that block would have to be pretty heavy or moving VERY quickly
I think a near-miss with the Stanchion could be lethal, IF the round hit a nearby wall or the ground which could cause some nasty spalling.
maybe near miss was meant like shot landed close to target and the resulting shrapnell etc could be deadly . also i think the production of this weapon ceased because of the appearance of the spartanlaser , and covenant armor being either to strong , so they need bigger mounted gauss cannons , or light enough that it could be dealt with the standart issiue sniper rifle.
Going Mach 43.6 would generate tons of friction at a low atmosphere... the round would basically melt and disopate, even being hyper-aerodynamic. At 3422°C, that's 6191.6° Freedom, is the melting point of tungsten... A shell would have to cover the round as a potentially sacrificial as it reaches the max speed before slowing down.
Here's the other problem... how do you get it out of the tube? Solution: magnetic metals/alloys... but with the comparative melting temperatures that of butter, it could coat the would evaporate away within the first few nanoseconds.
Mass, surface area, and velocity squared is basically how you defeat armor.
So basically, without going into the math... what I am saying is simply:
The rounds themselves would be very costly to manufacture. The fact that its range would be limited due to possible friction evaporation depending on atmospheric pressure and density you could see as long as indefinitely due to its ability to operate in space or as short as 2 miles before the round would tumble and accuracy would be compromised...
At Mach 43.6, at 2 miles, it would only drop by less than a centimeter... literally so fast that when planetary rotation would only move it a few millimeters.
However, all that is using a modern understanding of aerodynamics. Hyper-aerodynamic, one could theorize that it could pass through liquids just as easily as gas. So just using the magnetic coating over the tungsten, it would more or less act like a hole punch to paper... on a person. It would cauterize making vital shots more important than more convenient weapons.
I'm no expert by any means, and a lot of this is speculative... either way I doubt the performance of the M99's rounds of going Mach 43.6. Using kilometers would be more acceptable. 9 miles per second is ridiculous for a gauss rifle's round of any kind to be fired and survive even a mile at 5.4mm made out of pure tungsten... and to contain the magnets power that you don't atmoize things by accident. I'm no scientist but I'm sure that even accelerating those rounds to those speeds could cause the end of the rifle to explode. The more I think about it the more unlikely the book is correct in the M99's capabilities.
In-game the M99 Stanchion would be an amazing pickup for anti-vehicle combat. Acting like the Forerunner Binary Rifle in a way, but with the ability to over-penitrate just about everything. Making sniping people out of the seats of vehicles possible, and without exactly destroying them, unless you hit their weak spots. Ammo racks, engines... fuel cells. It would end up being a very high skill ceiling weapon IF that dynamic was added to halo in full and not just a gemic of past games.
I love demolition ranch and it’s great he keeps popping up on your channel
They need to come up with lots more cool weapons like this. Maybe a spartan rifle. thanks for an awesome video.
Love Matt from demo ranch. Funny you brought him up in this. Great vid 00.
Wind down is a thing with 120mm tank main guns in the real world but that is for targetry on ranges and not against living targets as far as I'm aware.
This is very dependent on near miss location but if it is legitimately a very close miss sub 3 inches and near the ears or eyes it may create a pressure wave powerfull enough to do serious damage. In demo ranch example 1 .50 bmg isn't enough but the 70 bmg equivalent force may be
That round is so strong it'll tear through its target and almost none of the power will go through. It over-penetrates on a massive scale.
The weapon I most want in one of the shooters.
Damn, seeing Johnson on that cover brings back good memories
If you could tie it into the mjlinor armor power feed and Carry large amounts of that small ammo
10:53 They could mean if the individual is a human, no helmet, and near graze/grazing?
16:17 I think that any legal or ethical factors contributing to the weapon's discontinued manufacture and use in the wider UNSC would be almost immediately ignored when dealing with the Covenant, who are a nonhuman, technologically-superior, and completely genocidal foe.
I imagine how this would be used by sniper teams is that they would have to assemble the rifle on the spot because lugging it around would be completely impractical especially when you are trying not to be seen behind enemy lines, then when they need to escape they would dissasemble the rifle and go, or just take the bolt of the weapon, rendering it unable to fire, and leave the rest of the rifle there. Apparently SAS do the same thing when they bring snipers with them, they take the bolt out of the rifle and just leave it there while they escape, so they don't have to carry the extra weight (since the sniper is also carrying a standard assault rifle with him)
10 pounds heavier than a Barrett M82...holy shit
Could the "Near Miss" be implied as a grazes hit?
A near miss lethal shot would need a round that would be tumbling. I'd love to see if someone could do the math on a round like that for its ballistic coefficient. .408 and. 375 CheyTac are known to having excellent ballistic coefficient. Current long range target shot record was just broken with .375 CheyTac out of an M200 Intervention.
Edit: I wonder near miss could include what would be considered as a bullet graze? Technically still a hit, but would tear flesh. So instead of hitting the main part of the body or limbs, I wonder what bullet graze would do, especially at hyper sonic velocities.
I agree that I believe a grazing shot is classified as a "near miss." With the forces at play that still could potentially take a limb off. And for sake of argument the environment also isn't taken into account. Shrapnel from any source has the potential to be lethal.
A graze the shockwave might push the wound open more. Could be nasty. But what does the damage that tears flesh is fluid dynamics. If that shock isn't on flesh you're probably gonna be fine. If it grazes your neck, or near important veins and arteries the shock MIGHT open or pinch them.
The Geneva convention is regarding treatment of POWs. The Hague convention restricts weapons. the primary restrictions on anti material rifles I am pretty sure was the St. Petersburg declaration. The latter would absolutely find the Needler, fuel rod gun and Spiker guns major violations.
Idk. Fuel rod would probably qualify as ordinance and be as fine as 40mm genades. Needler might fall under explosive rounds and is probably not ok. Spiker idk the part wrong with it but probably the same as why ballistic knives (probably) aren't allowed
@installation00 it is not against the Geneva convention to use anti-material rounds against infantry the only reason that was brought up was to save money on ammunition.
Would love to see this as an actual weapon in the games, perhaps as a slow scope or a small charge to fire it? Maybe it could have the same anti vehicle properties as the Reach Sniper?
The only thing I can think of to justify the near miss thing is if the near miss is a nearby hit on something else, like say the wall behind the target. That much energy might throw something back on contact.
Maybe the near miss lethality is meaning the explosion landing near a target rather than passing by in the air. Like the gauss cannon. You don't need to get a direct hit, just near enough that a 5psi or greater shock wave from an impact hits your target
I'd love to see a mod or fan game put this in, it'll one shot Hunters
I think the near miss myth came from the myth of a cannon ball killing someone without hitting them.
The round CAN be lethal with near misses, look up flechette rounds, they’re hypersonic darts used by modern militaries, near misses do kill enemy combatants
...you do know flechette rounds don't include just a single dart right?
@@MelonMafia1 Maybe they meant sabot?
No. No, they don't.
Linda-058: that thing is my baby
you heard em boys and girls! it's the Geneva suggestion ! lock and load!
Being generous to the statement "even a near miss can kill" it may be trying to (badly) say that shrapnel or spalling from a nearby impact could be lethal, rather than "sonic boom make you dead". Though I imagine there's going to be a pretty loud sonic boom as it zips past you, though probably not enough to damage anything substantial.
Though if a projectile going 19 kilometers a second did very closely zip past you (by my calculations that's fast enough to get from London to Edinburgh in around 34 seconds) you may just have a heart attack if you knew what it was.
The lore does specify the projectile is a slug. Slugs aren't exactly aerodynamic irl... think more torpedo shape. I imagine the weapon is more or less brute forcing the projectile to its target velocity. Now velocity + shape is going to give you some interesting cavitation and heating effects you wouldn't see with traditional Spitzer style ammunition
The Hague conventions deal with the use of weapons in warfare, the Geneva convention deals with the treatment of prisoners.
I need this in a shooter
I only heard of this rifle due to a Fallout 4 mod which adds most of plasma/ballistic armory of Halo
This rifle is explosively one of the most deadly weapons in Fallout 4 - Paladin Danse uses it with lethal efficiency
Hilariously the gun is nearly 2-3x larger than the Halo size.
This is halo's take on the exitus rifle wielded by vandicare assassins from warhammer 40k.. Read about that rifle.. It's insane what it can do as well as what the assassin can do.. One example is an assassin that was strapped to the roof of an aircraft and managed to hit her target while the aircraft was upside down..
Just a note, the term "recoilless rifle" doesn't actually imply the lack of felt recoil on the shooter. It's moreso a description of operation. Many recoilless rifles are effectively rocket launchers in a sense.
11:51 future tech shieße
I like that it can fire through 2 reinforced walls without the bullet shattering, yet a soft fleshy target causes the bullet to shatter? If this thing penetrates that hard, it's essentially a needle gun (not needler, the more general sci fi concept) which is great for armor penetration but... shooting a tiny hole through someone doesn't actually do a lot of damage. It's the bullet slowing down inside you that does the damage.
If there is one weapon I want in a Halo Game, it's this gun
Question how would SRS99 round do against Elite’s energy shield? Or a Hunters armor?
Enough to remove an elite hat at 2000 yards, generally Elite Minors can loose a head even with energy Shields, High ranking Elites and Brutes probably can take a bit more..., the Stanchion makes de Normal Sniper look like a Musket.
@@alexisbaz8746 I would guess that anything short of a Zealot or a Spec Ops couldn't take more than 2 headsets, lore wise, from the SRS99
In halowars 2 these things rip apart infantry like rice paper
I’m guessing it would take three shots just to bring down a Hunter right?
@@JV-lz3jd if it isn't the hero unit yes
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