This film commits the conceptual sin that so many 80s movies did: the heroes have been tormented, therefore they are justified in doing whatever they feel like doing in response. Only crappy people think that way. Part of being a good guy is, there are things you won't do because it's wrong, period.
@@debshaw680 I'm sure it's entertaining, what scares me though is people who identify with our idolize the main character of that film. Same with Tyler Durden from Fight Club, or The Joker from The Dark Knight or Joker. And characters like that. They're terrible people.
If the parents, or even some of the students, paid for housing in the dorms as part of their tuition, wouldn't kicking them out be a breech of contract? The movie doesn't say that students were offered refund. Even in the 1980's dorm fees weren't cheap.
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When the "Nerds" were selling those pie plates at the Carnival, they sold "over $2,000" in pies at $5.00 per pie, each "pie" featuring a topless pic of cheerleader Betty Childs. Wouldn't that also be 400+ counts of illegal distribution or porn and/or other laws being broken ? Also the entire Alpha-Beta team trashed the home of the "nerds"...that has got to be a good number of laws being broken.
Something you left out (although possibly deliberately, since it might not be TH-cam friendly): the fraternity the Nerds join, as I recall, is a historically black fraternity, which puts the Jocks's burning sign "prank" in a much darker light.
I'd forgotten the aspect of the fraternity's history, but when watching this video I thought, "Um, I'm not loving the implication of that burning sign on the front lawn seen through the windows." 😬
Still it spoke to the quality of the people making up the black fraternity that they were not prejudiced and were willing to embrace the non-black nerds as equals and treat them as their own.
It is probably the one genuinely touching or remotely serious moment in the film that the all black fraternity was going to deny the nerds from joining until they recognized something in the discrimination they were facing, and the look in the eyes of the fraternity head who is clearly old enough that he would have been right on the front lines of the Civil rights movement, and rhen also sends bodyguards to stand by them in the final scene. It frankly almost feels out of place considering how utterly stupid every other aspect of the film is.
@@shadizersilverhand2113 Keep in mind that the only reason the nerds' application didn't go in the trash was because that was the only fraternity where they didn't include a picture of themselves.
The incident he's citing lead directly to a war which killed only slightly less of the total human population than the first world war and which killed up to two thirds of the civilian population in the hardest affected regions of modern Germany
This film is the epitome of "Didn't age well". Of course, I remember seeing it as a teenager back in the early 90s and thinking some of it was pretty questionable back then as well.
Let see here Character and Racial Stereotypes, Criminal acts downplayed as casual well thought out pranks, Virtue Signaling, and no repercussions, yup this movie aged as well as milk in front of the sun on a summer day.
Fun fact: my screenwriting professor was one of the screenwriters for this movie, and he told us that they came up with the title "Revenge of the Nerds" first and then wrote the entire script based on that title
Wouldn't messing up the jocks chances at the university be more a nerd-like revenge? They could put incredibly wrong things in the homework that they were made to do. "Louis Armstrong landed on the moon in 1968." Wrong name, wrong year. "The length of the hypotenuse of an isosceles triangle is equal to the square root of the squared sum of the adjacent sides." Wrong triangle, that's for a right triangle. "Pearl Harbor was bombed after bombs were dropped by the US on Japan." Pearl Harbor bombed 1941, Hiroshima bombed 1945 The nerds put obvious mistakes like these in every homework assignment. Those jocks don't pass their classes. Any scholarships they have *should* be revoked. Meanwhile the nerds place the correct answers in their assignments. They have any scholarships of theirs secured. Now the victims are the jocks only. The nerds keep the moral high-er ground. All criminal activity is significantly reduced. If the jocks do seek out the nerds, they are still the worst of the bunch.
@@jenniferstine8567 Yeah and they could have also tricked them into eating protein bars which made them gain weight so they couldn't fit into their outfits which forces them to have to sit somewhere else on the day they all wear the same color. 😃
@@robbybevard8034 not true, if you get an F at any point you are kicked from the team regardless of your impact on the team. No matter what academic level you are, college or high school, you are a Student athlete… I repeat STUDENT ATHLETE…student comes before athlete, and coaches are not allowed to restrict on your academics for sports purposes. If you need to stay late coaches are required to allow it. From first hand experience The golden rule of a jock is Student comes before athlete
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@@theawkwardskeleton6608 He is the voice of Leonardo in the 3 TNMT from the 90's. He did not physically play Leonardo as they were a mix of stunt people and puppets made by Jim Henson's Creature Shop.
Defenestration is a fantastic word. I love that Prague has two famous cases of political defenestration that occurred out of the same window about a hundred years apart.
I love this break down! I think its not only reflective but important to revisit "comedy" of the eighties. My children are always pointing out why movies and tv shows from the 80's and 90's are "cringy" and "creepy". So many of the shows and movies my generation adored depict acts and behavior we would not approve of today. And it's not that it was not obviously bad and likely criminal behavior but we were guided to think of this as comedy! Bad acts were justified if the "good guy" did it. Well the kids of today are calling it like they see it. Sexual assault, bullying, racism, sexism and homophobia no longer have a place as comic relief. Thanks great video LegalEagle!!
I'm probably late for this, but it sure reads as if you did raise your kids well. I dare bet many of their peers are well grateful for that, well done!
Perhaps these movies should help younger people realize that it was more than just the movies which were "cringy" and "creepy", society as a whole was like this. Yes, it is cartoonishly overdone as part of the effect, but many of the underlying intentions and lesser actions occurred.
I imagine the censoring was quite confusing, because I know until I saw the uncensored version I had no clue what the scene with the nerds selling the pies was all about.
@shadizersilverhand2113 you also got to remember how the Disney Channel would edit things was not quite the same as how local channels would. Local channels would make the bad words inaudible but they would still show up on the closed captions. The Disney Channel on the other hand would usually redub the bad words
I’m so glad you mentioned that Darth Vader scene. This movie, and so many others from the 80s, are deeply upsetting to me because of things like this, and telling women that it was a different time doesn’t make it any better. Plus, as you mentioned, IT WAS STILL A CRIME THEN. People clearly knew better.
Yeah, it's older movies like this that make me grateful for websites like 'does the dog die' that provide more thorough warnings than just the pg-13/R ratings provide.
Yup! In the 80's my mother was nearly killed weekly by my step-father and I was being sexually assaulted by him. The cops took him away from the house for the night when he beat and choked my mom and refused to even take a report when the sexual assault was witnessed by my Mom and we reported to the chief of police. Back then what happened in the family stayed in the family but that didn't make Mom's bruises go away or my virginity reappear. My step-father and the cops knew damn well that they were crimes. They just didn't care enough. Saying it was a different time is an atrocious cop out. That being said, back then, as a teenager, even I didn't get the truth of the movie. I vaguely felt uncomfortable about what happed in the Vader scene but would not have considered it all out rape unless encouraged to give it more thought. There was a difference in culture back then and some of these incidents didn't occur to a great many of us because of this. Back then I also woke up on couches after parties ended or slowed down to find a guy on top of me trying to get into my pants. One of my best friend's fathers put his hands all over me one night while the rest of the house slept and tried to coerce me into sex very forcefully. I had gotten violent about these things after going very public with what my step-father had done to me so I grabbed a knife, we were in the kitchen, and held it to his throat until he relented, telling him if he ever did that again I would tell the family and the town about him. Today I would have woken the family and pressed charges but back then no one in law enforcement would have tried too hard to support me nor would the family, I assume. Today these things are considered sexual assault but back then what had happened to me back home was so much worse this only made me angry and violent. I didn't think of it as something the cops would pursue as sexual assault because that kind of thing happened to females all over and nothing was ever done. As a child and teen we had an Uncle Peg, a man wear a wooden peg prosthetic, we were told to stay an arm's length away from because he 'got handsy' with all the females. He did it brazenly in front of others and no one defended us girls and women because we were warned so it was up to us to prevent it. Today I wonder how many girls he outright assaulted for the females family to even openly warn their daughters and female guests. He was never even reported to police. There really was more of an assault and rape culture back then, with victims discouraged from reporting or pressing charges and society in general dismissing a lot of this behavior and acting scandalized when a female went public with pedophilia or sexual assault at home.
@@boazjamesmiller6387 Upstate New York in the 70's and 80's. Rape, assault, and the whole lot still take place but it's no longer considered a dirty little secret or 'family business' like it was. Once I stood up for myself and told everyone in town about my step-father that stopped and I gained a rep as someone not to mess with simply because I would not keep my mouth shut. Predators. at home, work or elsewhere all like to hide behind our silence and the first best thing we can do is tell the world about them. It makes others around them wary and cautious at the least and can sometimes lead to consequences for their actions.
I remember when the hubbub about this movie started, and one of my friends was all "Nerd culture is anti-woman!" and I was like "You know, there were no actual nerds involved in this movie, it's all actors playing parts. It's Hollywood that's anti-woman," and she was like "Good point."
@@leaffinite2001 There really aren't. What you should be saying is there are a lot of anti-woman people. The overlap with nerd culture is the same as the overlap with every other culture.
@@leaffinite2001 Kinda does. Your original statement implies that a lot of Nerds in particular are anti-woman, that it's a problem with nerds and not a problem with a group of people unrelated.
I never watched this movie from start to finish. Right from the start when the football players were destroying the dorms to get a room is when I stopped watching. Look, I understand some colleges will give special wavers and bend the law for their star players and teams. But this pretty much sets up the idea that they are untouchable. Everything in the dorms is not college property. There might be belongings that was destroyed by the hocks. There was no notification or such for those in the dorms to be aware they will be evicted. It was random raid style that anyone with a good sense would call the local authorities right up.
Yea, school bullies weren't under the law's microscope. So Biff can attempt Marty's vehicular slaughter with a whole gang of accessory passengers and, for some reason, Daniel needs a deal for the Cobra Kai kids to take a few months off from trying to harm him.
Well, the good news is you've grown. Some people still have the first mindset, even as supposedly mature adults. So good job on becoming a decent human being. /genuine
Here in Nebraska, the tourism board put out a new slogan "Honestly, it's not for everyone". The people in this movie, especially the huge violent dumb jock, are exactly who it's for. And if you put the college in the middle of the state, it would be in a huge corn field with nothing around for hundreds of miles. Absolutely nothin'. And who knew there were so many laws about battery and sexual assault, cause so many Husker football players got away with just that.
fun fact the center of nebraska is Broken Bow and Broken bow actually has a college . Mid Plains Community College. now since it's not UNL or UNO and esp since it's a community college at best it may have intramural clubs/sports/etc but it would not have fraternities . As a Nebraskan am I over analyzing this... yes, yes I am
Let's not forget the pie charity scene when Lewis took pictures of a top less Betty and distributed them to raise charity. I don't know how many laws that would violate. Kinda pissed Betty still stayed with him after that.
@@MickFoley299 Yeah. Though one thing about the r*** scene though. I've been in Betty's situation before, sorta, because I also once gave retroactive consent to a guy. 😳
Not only does Ogre drop the guy off the roof, he visibly does so deliberately. He can't argue that the whole thing is an accident, or an attempt to prevent the other person from harming themselves.
The fact that a whole lot of people got together and agreed that what they were making was silly hijinks makes this the scariest horror movie I think I’ve ever seen
@@someperson4819 They literally make the "hero" commit rape, and the victim like it. WTF was wrong with the writers or us as viewers to not know how f*cked up that was at the time?
What's kind of creepily hilarious is that there was a case where a guy fell off the balcony of a frat house and was killed at my college, smack dab in the middle of Nebraska.
I was young enough to know Lewis as the dad on Lizzie McGuire before anything else. Imagine my surprise when, in college, I watched this and got to watch Lizzie’s dad be a predator lol
Objection! The Adams College, while fictional, was filmed at the University of Arizona in Tucson. The establishing shot shows the desert mountains outside of town , therefore we can assume the film is set somewhere in the Southwestern United States. Source, I've lived in Nebraska where such mountains are not visible.
I have the silly hobby to ask people on YT if they'd like some nice recommendations of any kind. Science-Channel may be my favorite thing to share, but that's not all, as i have kept my Interests and Hobbys very diversified for my whole, entire life. So i got all you can imagine (except Sports!)!
LOL Yes, the only mountains that exist in the entire Midwest are the Black Hills of South Dakota (in the area where Mount Rushmore is). Let's chalk that one up as a major "goof" by the filmmakers! We can call that a "goof," because the rest of the film is anything but - sorry, but this film is not funny. It's quite horrifying!
I was combing the comments to see if anyone else noticed the mountains (Western Iowa here). Also, the sand-dunes, labeled highway signs, and sagebrush.
@matts1166 Central Iowa here. And I completely forgot about the sand dunes and sagebrush. LOL Yes, whoever was involved with the decision to shoot in the Southwest had never been to the Midwest! 😂😂😂
I remember being encouraged to watch this movie because I’m very nerdy but I didn’t “relate” to the plight at all because I’m a female nerd lmao, for some strange reason I’ve never felt tempted to take revenge against jocks by stealing their underwear 😂
"Why yes she did answer the door wearing a negligee, and she immediately offers the boy sex. Things that would only happen in a 1980s frat movie." Or the wrong kind of 21st century anime.
I was a paper boy back in the 70s (kids used to deliver newspapers and collect payment), and the answering the door in a negligee part happened more than you'd think.
Same here! My favorite instance of it is the mob murder of informant Abe "Kid Twist" Reles. After he was defenestrated, the newspaper called him the "Stool pigeon that could sing, but couldn't fly."
counter OBJECTION! Daleks are not mutated. They are genetically enginered. Mutation is a natural process, and while it can be argued that mutation was the reason for the enginering, they are not naturally created.
OBJECTION: _Revenge of the Nerds_ is actually set in Arizona! Okay, it's not *officially* set in Arizona, but the campus being filmed was the University of Arizona in -Tuscon- Tucson. If you look closely at the scene where they turn off the freeway and pass by the "ADAMS COLLEGE" sign, you'll see some hints of the real location, including a billboard for a -Tuscon- Tucson radio station. (Apologies for the misspelling!)
@@DaedalusYoung you can see the gates of Kong Island in the background during the scene when Atlanta burns.... That would be an interesting crossover! 😄
Speaking of Indecency with an Animal, one of the first executions in Plymouth colony (1642) was punishment to Thomas Graunger a man who committed such acts against "a mare, a cow, two goats, divers sheepe, two calves, and a turkey". Was the first incident of such a crime in the colonies. Your welcome for that factoid for this Thanksgiving! :)
10 minutes of searching has been unproductive, but in 1984 quite a few states lacked anti-bestiality laws. Today [2023], two states still do not have statutes against bestiality, WV and NM.
I know this is a very old comment, but I just wanted to point out that "Speaking of Indecency with an Animal..." is the single best start to a sentence I've ever read.
A professor once said to me, when I was in college (over 2 decades ago): "When you do it, it is called youthful indiscretion. When I do it, it is called Class-A misdemeanor."
@@MurderMostFowl But he did not import the plant. And it is an unknown species so not sure if any of the prohibited classifications of plant life would apply to it.
@@thejudgmentalcat I'm not sure he would be, remember Scrivello choked on his own laughing gas, Seymour didn't save him but does he have any sort of duty of care? The most you might get Seymour with is assault for threatening him with the gun.
The existence of these films is... disturbing to say the least. Not to mention the fact that I'm pretty sure real nerds during the 80s were more concerned with hiding their D&D hobby from religious zealots.
Isn't it messed up how the only way to make them likable in media is to go, "They're sick pervs just like you and me!" But they get away with it because they're not considered manly enough and therefore non-threatening somehow. Way to pull off misogyny and m/m toxic masculinity at the same time.
Seriously. This movie, and the sequels, were more a commentary on society's twisted view of nerddom. Not what actual nerddom was. Of course, they painted the extremely bad side of all the groups, just like Animal House, jus like Porky's, just like basically every college and/or "coming-of-age" type movie out there. I mean jeez, Summer School probably was the closest to being a little accurate, and even that was way over the top and creepifying.
@@UnconventionalReasoning Do some research on the satanic panic during the 80s, pretty much anything evangelists hated enough was in danger at the time.
Charles Barkley should have learned from Bobby Heenan. Let me rephrase: “He threw some ice at me, I told him that was not very nice, then he got scared and tried jumping through the window to escape”
It took legal eagle 20 minutes to say all the crimes, imagine being in court and stating the crimes committed... "Your honor, frankly we don't have enough time to prove they've committed all these crimes. Can... Can we just focus on the big ones?"
Now I want to hear Legal Eagle analyze "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly." If that would take too long, then at least the scene where Tuco's crimes are being read before the first attempted hanging.
Prosecutors actually do choose which crimes they want to focus on, and sometimes they will leave off a few crimes if they don't think they have enough evidence, or as a possibility to retry the defendant without violating double jeopardy.
What's the big deal? The twenty minutes includes cases like the landlady who propositions someone below the age of consent. She gets her own trial, IF IF IF we assume a witness reported it off-camera. Then gotta separate the conduct of each frat/sorority. Then there are further individual crimes.
*Ogre hanging guy over the railing* Lewis: He must be a king Gilbert: How can you tell? Lewis: He hasn't got shit all over him. *during the jock strap treatment scene* Booger: 1...2...5! Poindexter: 3 sir. Monty Python and the Revenge of the Nerds needs to be a thing now!
@@maieen2665 I never thought Porky's or Revenge of the Nerds were funny. Soul man was meh to begin with. I can't understand what's wrong with "The Toy" unless it's white fragility, The Joke was always on the stupidity and horror of white supremacy. Much like tropic Thunder, it's not a specific behavior that's the issue, it's the context and how it's framed. Just because the Nazi's were a nightmare doesn't mean we don't make movies about them, it means they're framed as the bad guys. RDJ's Kirk Lazarus is a villain. All the white people are villains in "The Toy", and Richard Pryor is trying to save the boy from following the same path originally for money and then because he forms a bond with the kid. What's wrong with that. This doesn't even fall into the category of "Magical Minority" - Richard Pryor's character has motives goals and agency.
There was this strange concept of sexualized revenge done by the protagonists that I think may have started in M*A*S*H with the Hot Lips scene. You see versions of it in Porky's, Revenge of the Nerds, Police Academy. What I think people forget is that the protagonists in M*A*S*H are all pretty terrible people to begin with. Their behavior was not an example to be followed.
I always assumed that he DOES reveal himself at some point before sex, but AFTER making out with her. She seems to know who he is, later, and there are obviously behind-the-scenes communications between the two of them. It's STILL sexual assault, but I always figured she really left that tent knowing who he was.
As soon as I saw the title of this video, I said out loud to nobody; "Ohh buddy. This is gonna be a good one." I've seen this movie so many times. I knew what was coming.
Revenge of the Nerds has always been one of those "I need to get around to it" movies. After this, I think I'm just going to throw it over to "Nah, I'm good" and just not watch it.
Perhaps you could watch it on physical media anyway. I don't expect to like this movie, but I'm fascinated by pieces of media that were once beloved but today, everyone agrees are actually awful.
It's very common for movies that supposedly take place another part to the country to be obviously LA. Note the lovely palm trees of Haddonfield IL in "Halloween"
I've heard a lot of things referencing "panty raids" so either that's just a crazy thing that college movies made up, or back in the day colleges allowed a whole lot of crimes and violations. And considering the problems some of them continue to have, I'm leaning towards "colleges just allowing crimes for no reason"
There should be 'Revenge of the Himbos' where they berate the nerds for stalking woman and literally drugging to r*** them. This movie is really messed up
@@KumaoftheForest The Jocks hire a nerdy girl to outsmart and take down the r*pey nerds. Maybe a romance developing being the head jock and nerdy girl ? ❤
Please don't use the term 'protagonist' like you would the word 'hero'. A protagonist is merely a main character. If someone made a movie about a certain 1930s-40s German chancellor with all the horrible things he was responsible for on full display in a condemnatory manner, he would still be a protagonist. The issue is that we're meant to side with the nerds in this.
I *love* this movie. It's one of my very favorites. That's why it hurts so much to watch now and just have to see all the *wrong*. The sheer amount of *wrong*. Didn't seem wrong when I was kid. As an adult? Oh, it hurts.
Thank you for this video. This movie has shocked, disgusted, and haunted me for a long time, and I'm grossed out whenever someone proudly quotes it as a nerd. I loved when you said "this is when Revenge of the Nerds" becomes "Revenge of the Incels". That's exactly it. So many crimes against women are seen as funny and/or justified. Obviously, the crimes committed against the nerds are bad as well but those are committed by the bad guys, not by the "heroes". It was a hard video to watch because I knew what was coming and I wasn't looking forward to it but you're doing a great service by raising more awareness of the issues and pointing out that Lewis is the main villain of the movie. And fellow nerds, please don't use psychopathic criminals as role models. There are so many wholesome nerds to look up to.
5:04 Defenestration is one of MY favorite words, too! It's such a funny one! I find it a pretty amazing coincidence that we both find that word funny XD I'm impressed you know so much history behind it, and if you know about the death of Garry Hoy, you probably had a good reason not to mention his particular case of defenestration, haha.
I was always curios after the panty raid...why didn't the ladies call campus security or the cops. the nerds would have been expelled and charges pressed against them (and the movie would be over)
@@bigbabysld Answer to both questions: because those ladies aren't characters, they are just a mix of trophy and sex doll that doesn't need blowing up. Very special new feature of the pi model: makes pleasant "ohhhh i never had it this good" noises. Though I guess it might count as equality that almost anybody else in that movie is a walking stereotype, too.
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 and don't flee the scene. because when you're gone the fire will burn on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
I watched Revenge of the Nerds like a couple of years ago and I've never been more uncomfortable watching a movie in my life. Creepy doesn't begin to describe it.
@@ElPayasoMalo I watched it around the time it came out, but I don't really remember any of it. I'm not going to rewatch it and subject myself to that kind of horror.
@@ElPayasoMalo On the contrary. Nobody should ever be exposed to this nightmare. Our teachers accidentally played it for us on the bus during a school trip and fell asleep. At some point we woke them up and got them to turn this monstrosity off. It still makes me nauseous.
@@b.parker1740 That. I kept seeing it described as a classic, so I thought I'd catch up on it. Needless to say, I regretted it. Such a deeply uncomfortable film...
Of course Rocky Horror Picture Show also has two rape by deception scenes but those bother me less than this movie because Frank, while very likeable, was more explicitly a villain. I'd love to see that movie looked at as well in terms of laws broken. I don't think Brad or Janet broke many if any laws, but other characters more than make up for that.
They probably thought it was a very funny joke that even non-consensual intimate contact with Lewis was so much more satisfying for Betty than anything she has ever done with Stan that she completely fell in love with the former. Talk about poorly aged jokes...
15:20 If the word "rape" is now forbidden, how are rape cases supposed to even be prosecuted? Also, if you can't say "rape", how can you say "murder", clearly a much more heinous crime?
Still my favorite DnD story, someone casting "Command", which forces someone to follow a single word command, with them being able to resist by interpreting what exactly it means to them and the command word is "autodefenestrate". It doesn't really get any harder to wile your way out of dying to a command than "throw yourself out of a window".
@@Arkios64 Does the commanded have a time limit to follow the command? For example, if on the 3rd floor of a building a character got "Command" cast on them with the command "autodefenestrate", must they immediately jump out of the nearest window? Or would they be able to maintain enough self preservation to be able to immediately run down to the first floor and jump out of the first window they find down there? Or would that be a DM call? Must they jump through a window even if it is closed, or would (again) self preservation allow them to first open the window if possible?
Seems like a DM call,@@Sembazuru , nice question. Though I’m sure I have neighbors & buds who don’t know what “autodefenstrate” means so what then? I’m sure rules cover that, but I’m too lazy to get my 2nd Ed rule books.
I love that crazy movie, but I don't know that there are enough different laws being broken to make an interesting movie. I mean speeding, evading police, some vandalism here and there is about it. The central conceit that unautohorized interstate transport of Coors beer in particular was never true.
@@jetblack99 transportation of alcohol across state borders without the appropriate licenses, conspiracy, unlawful arrest... also Devin could easily do the series not just the first if he needed padding.
Speaking of Daleks, Doctor Who is a good show with a season long arc called "Trial of a Time Lord". I know you're not a Gallifreyan lawyer, but it'd be interesting to see you react
It’s pretty obvious that the movie was filmed in the Tucson area ( I live in AZ myself ) but it’s pretty clear it is meant to take place somewhere else because of the different house styles and everyone is dressed in sweaters, jackets and long sleeves. You can even see people’s breath in some parts.
Horrifyingly, I saw it in the theater with my mom when I was around 10. And none of the true horror hit us. That fact alone is arguably more horrifying to me now than the movie itself.
The movie made me cry and want to throw up and I get grossed out when it's mentioned, if that helps you imagine it better. I suppose it depends on the woman, of course. But as a woman and a nerd, this is a movie I wish never existed for so many reasons...
Maybe they should remake this film where they commit all the same crimes, but people around them respond realistically. It would be a thriller of course, probably best from the perspective of the women.
Funny how Robot Chicken was way ahead of you legally legal. They did an alternate ending where the nerds gets sentenced to 45 years to life in prison. After their misdeeds they are sentenced to prison and well one of them dreams about making a difference for inmates. To which they only lasted a few seconds in prison 🤣🤣🤣
I have to say, I really like that this one goes to the trouble of citing laws accurate to the state and time the movie is set and how they've changed. There's been a couple Real Lawyer Reacts videos where I've wondered if the laws mentioned are accurate to when the thing was made or if the laws differ by state (I think he uses New York as a default if unstated?).
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!! I graduated High School in 1985, so Revenge of the Nerds was part of my teens. You had me laughing and agreeing and this was priceless!!! Thank you so much for not making it only behind Nebula's paywall.
I can only imagine how much of an ordeal it must have been to watch this movie from with the mindset of "just how many laws got broken in this thing?".
Ah, I loved that movie when I was in college. Jeremy Piven is always great. And yeah, there are some pretty interesting and corner-case scenarios in that movie.
In the words of CollegeHumor, "God *damn* those nerds were rapey!"
I was just about to link that video. He should do Porky's next.
Yes thought of that sketch. "I know why don't we .........." 🤣
And why is rape being bleeped?
@@UncleBurt72 the algorithm
@@UncleBurt72 TH-cam, it's always TH-cam
This film commits the conceptual sin that so many 80s movies did: the heroes have been tormented, therefore they are justified in doing whatever they feel like doing in response. Only crappy people think that way. Part of being a good guy is, there are things you won't do because it's wrong, period.
Makes me think of Falling Down. It's alarming to think that anyone empathizes with him.
Movies like this are so people have the satisfaction of seeing things they wish they could do if they’re weren’t decent people.
@@R2Bl3nd I love that movie.
@@debshaw680 a decent person doesn't want to do those things in the first place.
@@debshaw680 I'm sure it's entertaining, what scares me though is people who identify with our idolize the main character of that film. Same with Tyler Durden from Fight Club, or The Joker from The Dark Knight or Joker. And characters like that. They're terrible people.
If the parents, or even some of the students, paid for housing in the dorms as part of their tuition, wouldn't kicking them out be a breech of contract? The movie doesn't say that students were offered refund. Even in the 1980's dorm fees weren't cheap.
I have the silly hobby to ask people on YT
if they'd like some nice recommendations of any kind.
Science-Channel may be my favorite thing to share,
but that's not all, as i have kept my Interests and Hobbys
very diversified for my whole, entire life.
So i got all you can imagine (except Sports!)!
My first thought was, "Wouldn't the Alpha Betas storming the dorms and kicking out the residents also count as trespassing?"
@@BrockMDol Good First comment, i dare to say. But: Seen my comment?
Yes, but Devin's only discussing crimes here (violations of criminal code) rather than tort (violations of civil code).
Indeed it would be a breach in the contract
When the "Nerds" were selling those pie plates at the Carnival, they sold "over $2,000" in pies at $5.00 per pie, each "pie" featuring a topless pic of cheerleader Betty Childs. Wouldn't that also be 400+ counts of illegal distribution or porn and/or other laws being broken ?
Also the entire Alpha-Beta team trashed the home of the "nerds"...that has got to be a good number of laws being broken.
Wouldn't it only count as one instance? Sure, they distributed more than one image, but they only distributed on that one instance of selling pies
@@privpi I could be wrong, but I believe each picture counts as a separate crime
I'd pay $5.00 for one of them plates.
Don't forget mopery. In the movie, mopery is exposing yourself to a blind person.
@@javaman7199 Thank you for teaching me a new word.
Something you left out (although possibly deliberately, since it might not be TH-cam friendly): the fraternity the Nerds join, as I recall, is a historically black fraternity, which puts the Jocks's burning sign "prank" in a much darker light.
I'd forgotten the aspect of the fraternity's history, but when watching this video I thought, "Um, I'm not loving the implication of that burning sign on the front lawn seen through the windows." 😬
Still it spoke to the quality of the people making up the black fraternity that they were not prejudiced and were willing to embrace the non-black nerds as equals and treat them as their own.
It is probably the one genuinely touching or remotely serious moment in the film that the all black fraternity was going to deny the nerds from joining until they recognized something in the discrimination they were facing, and the look in the eyes of the fraternity head who is clearly old enough that he would have been right on the front lines of the Civil rights movement, and rhen also sends bodyguards to stand by them in the final scene. It frankly almost feels out of place considering how utterly stupid every other aspect of the film is.
Oh yikes. Never thought about that....😮
@@shadizersilverhand2113 Keep in mind that the only reason the nerds' application didn't go in the trash was because that was the only fraternity where they didn't include a picture of themselves.
"throwing people out of Windows have caused several wars" has to be the funniest thing I have heard all year
Look up "the defenestration of prague 1618." Man is not lying.
@@dominictemple yep. He means it literally.
The incident he's citing lead directly to a war which killed only slightly less of the total human population than the first world war and which killed up to two thirds of the civilian population in the hardest affected regions of modern Germany
@@dominictemple this was, notably, the *second* defenestration of Prague. The first one also caused a war (or multiple ones?)
@@philipschloesser Also of note, both the defenestrations in question involved the same window.
The fact that burglary carries a heavier sentence than r*pe by fraud is depressingly accurate
Makes sense when you consider that most laws were created by and for wealthy land owners.
Why is rape misspelled or obscured? It triggers people? Demonetization?
@@the_kombinator Demonetization.
@@the_kombinator Comments containing it are secretly shuffled to the bottom (usually), and videos are automatically demonetized.
Grape vine.
Me, as a Czech guy: Defenestration may be your favourite word, but it's *our* national hobby." 😂😂😁
The protest so nice, they did it thrice!
Me as descendant of original Hussites: hell yeah
I fondly remember the moment I accidentally found the wikipedia article about "The second defenestration of Prague".
Now THAT'S, uh, well, maybe not necessarily entertainment. Maybe it's just another day at the office for ya.....
Yeet!
This film is the epitome of "Didn't age well". Of course, I remember seeing it as a teenager back in the early 90s and thinking some of it was pretty questionable back then as well.
nah the nerds did nothing wrong
@@donnieraczynski572 ow the edge
@@donnieraczynski572 ok sexual predator
Let see here Character and Racial Stereotypes, Criminal acts downplayed as casual well thought out pranks, Virtue Signaling, and no repercussions, yup this movie aged as well as milk in front of the sun on a summer day.
@@luistrejo3326 virtue signaling? I watched this movie a few hours ago and I didn't exactly notice
Fun fact: my screenwriting professor was one of the screenwriters for this movie, and he told us that they came up with the title "Revenge of the Nerds" first and then wrote the entire script based on that title
Wouldn't messing up the jocks chances at the university be more a nerd-like revenge? They could put incredibly wrong things in the homework that they were made to do. "Louis Armstrong landed on the moon in 1968." Wrong name, wrong year. "The length of the hypotenuse of an isosceles triangle is equal to the square root of the squared sum of the adjacent sides." Wrong triangle, that's for a right triangle. "Pearl Harbor was bombed after bombs were dropped by the US on Japan." Pearl Harbor bombed 1941, Hiroshima bombed 1945
The nerds put obvious mistakes like these in every homework assignment. Those jocks don't pass their classes. Any scholarships they have *should* be revoked. Meanwhile the nerds place the correct answers in their assignments. They have any scholarships of theirs secured.
Now the victims are the jocks only. The nerds keep the moral high-er ground. All criminal activity is significantly reduced. If the jocks do seek out the nerds, they are still the worst of the bunch.
@@jenniferstine8567 Sports scholarships. They get auto A's regardless.
@@jenniferstine8567 Yeah and they could have also tricked them into eating protein bars which made them gain weight so they couldn't fit into their outfits which forces them to have to sit somewhere else on the day they all wear the same color. 😃
@@robbybevard8034 not true, if you get an F at any point you are kicked from the team regardless of your impact on the team. No matter what academic level you are, college or high school, you are a Student athlete… I repeat STUDENT ATHLETE…student comes before athlete, and coaches are not allowed to restrict on your academics for sports purposes. If you need to stay late coaches are required to allow it. From first hand experience The golden rule of a jock is Student comes before athlete
@@Gabriellaella23 mean girls. Nice
If the defenestration is through a closed window you have to add a destruction of property charge.
I have the silly hobby to ask people on YT
if they'd like some nice recommendations of any kind.
Science-Channel may be my favorite thing to share,
but that's not all, as i have kept my Interests and Hobbys
very diversified for my whole, entire life.
So i got all you can imagine (except Sports!)!
The irony is Brian Tochi, the actor who plays Takashi, is actually an expert martial artist and ninja turtle.
Which one?
@@theawkwardskeleton6608 He is the voice of Leonardo in the 3 TNMT from the 90's. He did not physically play Leonardo as they were a mix of stunt people and puppets made by Jim Henson's Creature Shop.
@@theawkwardskeleton6608 Several disciplines that I know of, including karate.
@Anonymus X He was also in Star Trek, TOS as a child and Next-Gen as an adult.
Now who is the racist one
Defenestration is a fantastic word. I love that Prague has two famous cases of political defenestration that occurred out of the same window about a hundred years apart.
The window, the window, he threw 'im out the window!
The demonstration is very rare for me to use that word.
My favorite word is monopsony. It is market dominance over buying power, as opposed to monopoly, which is market dominence over selling power.
Prague has *THE* cases of defenestration since the first incident is the origin of the word itself.
What about the opposite of defenestration ..which would be being thrown into the building thru the window. Remember Jan 6?, lol
I love this break down! I think its not only reflective but important to revisit "comedy" of the eighties. My children are always pointing out why movies and tv shows from the 80's and 90's are "cringy" and "creepy". So many of the shows and movies my generation adored depict acts and behavior we would not approve of today. And it's not that it was not obviously bad and likely criminal behavior but we were guided to think of this as comedy! Bad acts were justified if the "good guy" did it. Well the kids of today are calling it like they see it. Sexual assault, bullying, racism, sexism and homophobia no longer have a place as comic relief. Thanks great video LegalEagle!!
I'm probably late for this, but it sure reads as if you did raise your kids well. I dare bet many of their peers are well grateful for that, well done!
Perhaps these movies should help younger people realize that it was more than just the movies which were "cringy" and "creepy", society as a whole was like this. Yes, it is cartoonishly overdone as part of the effect, but many of the underlying intentions and lesser actions occurred.
Dude, they use to play “Revenge of the Nerds” on the frickin’ DISNEY channel in the 90’s. 😳
I imagine the censoring was quite confusing, because I know until I saw the uncensored version I had no clue what the scene with the nerds selling the pies was all about.
They probably censored it to pieces.
@shadizersilverhand2113 you also got to remember how the Disney Channel would edit things was not quite the same as how local channels would. Local channels would make the bad words inaudible but they would still show up on the closed captions. The Disney Channel on the other hand would usually redub the bad words
Was that a 5 minute viewing because they would’ve had to cut almost the ENTIRE movie lmao
50 years for burglary seems pretty steep compared to just 20 for rape.
Or 20 years for rape seems pretty light compared to 50 for burglary.
He could literally just say "all the laws, they've somehow broken all the laws."
"Jaywalking?"
"Yes."
"Copyright infringement?"
"Yes."
"Exceeding the acreage limitations of zinc mines?"
"A little bit, yes."
Even RICO?
@@Sonikku2008 frats are an organization! Lol
Even lollygagging?
@@HarmonyEdge even stealing sweetrolls.
Can we get a Laws Broken for Matilda? There is a surprising amount of laws broken and am curious who would wind up in jail longer.
Poor Matilda, On the other hand... Oooh yes!!
I wouldn’t mind seeing that video!
How would one keep Matilda in prison? Seems like she could escape with ease.
They need a sequel, where she goes bad as an adult.😁
Ooo, yes, this would be fun!
@@nobodyimportant7804 I always jokes it was the young Jean Gray chronicles. Before she died her hair and learned to read minds.
I’m so glad you mentioned that Darth Vader scene. This movie, and so many others from the 80s, are deeply upsetting to me because of things like this, and telling women that it was a different time doesn’t make it any better. Plus, as you mentioned, IT WAS STILL A CRIME THEN. People clearly knew better.
Yeah, it's older movies like this that make me grateful for websites like 'does the dog die' that provide more thorough warnings than just the pg-13/R ratings provide.
Yup! In the 80's my mother was nearly killed weekly by my step-father and I was being sexually assaulted by him. The cops took him away from the house for the night when he beat and choked my mom and refused to even take a report when the sexual assault was witnessed by my Mom and we reported to the chief of police. Back then what happened in the family stayed in the family but that didn't make Mom's bruises go away or my virginity reappear. My step-father and the cops knew damn well that they were crimes. They just didn't care enough. Saying it was a different time is an atrocious cop out.
That being said, back then, as a teenager, even I didn't get the truth of the movie. I vaguely felt uncomfortable about what happed in the Vader scene but would not have considered it all out rape unless encouraged to give it more thought. There was a difference in culture back then and some of these incidents didn't occur to a great many of us because of this. Back then I also woke up on couches after parties ended or slowed down to find a guy on top of me trying to get into my pants.
One of my best friend's fathers put his hands all over me one night while the rest of the house slept and tried to coerce me into sex very forcefully. I had gotten violent about these things after going very public with what my step-father had done to me so I grabbed a knife, we were in the kitchen, and held it to his throat until he relented, telling him if he ever did that again I would tell the family and the town about him. Today I would have woken the family and pressed charges but back then no one in law enforcement would have tried too hard to support me nor would the family, I assume.
Today these things are considered sexual assault but back then what had happened to me back home was so much worse this only made me angry and violent. I didn't think of it as something the cops would pursue as sexual assault because that kind of thing happened to females all over and nothing was ever done. As a child and teen we had an Uncle Peg, a man wear a wooden peg prosthetic, we were told to stay an arm's length away from because he 'got handsy' with all the females. He did it brazenly in front of others and no one defended us girls and women because we were warned so it was up to us to prevent it. Today I wonder how many girls he outright assaulted for the females family to even openly warn their daughters and female guests. He was never even reported to police.
There really was more of an assault and rape culture back then, with victims discouraged from reporting or pressing charges and society in general dismissing a lot of this behavior and acting scandalized when a female went public with pedophilia or sexual assault at home.
@@billie-jobenway8658 I am so sorry that happened to you. Thank you for sharing your story.
@@billie-jobenway8658 I'm so sorry, that sounds absolutely horrifying. Where did this happen?
@@boazjamesmiller6387 Upstate New York in the 70's and 80's. Rape, assault, and the whole lot still take place but it's no longer considered a dirty little secret or 'family business' like it was. Once I stood up for myself and told everyone in town about my step-father that stopped and I gained a rep as someone not to mess with simply because I would not keep my mouth shut. Predators. at home, work or elsewhere all like to hide behind our silence and the first best thing we can do is tell the world about them. It makes others around them wary and cautious at the least and can sometimes lead to consequences for their actions.
I remember when the hubbub about this movie started, and one of my friends was all "Nerd culture is anti-woman!" and I was like "You know, there were no actual nerds involved in this movie, it's all actors playing parts. It's Hollywood that's anti-woman," and she was like "Good point."
Accurate portrayals of nerds in movies and TV are few and far between.
To be fair there are a lot of very anti-woman nerds
@@leaffinite2001 There really aren't. What you should be saying is there are a lot of anti-woman people. The overlap with nerd culture is the same as the overlap with every other culture.
@@prismglider5922 idk, that doesnt really change what i said.
@@leaffinite2001 Kinda does. Your original statement implies that a lot of Nerds in particular are anti-woman, that it's a problem with nerds and not a problem with a group of people unrelated.
Not to mention all the destruction of property and other assaults when the ABs illegally evicted people from the dorms.
I never watched this movie from start to finish. Right from the start when the football players were destroying the dorms to get a room is when I stopped watching.
Look, I understand some colleges will give special wavers and bend the law for their star players and teams. But this pretty much sets up the idea that they are untouchable. Everything in the dorms is not college property. There might be belongings that was destroyed by the hocks. There was no notification or such for those in the dorms to be aware they will be evicted. It was random raid style that anyone with a good sense would call the local authorities right up.
@@MexiSword you are correct but note this is just an 80s comedy film. It's definitely not real 😂
Yea, school bullies weren't under the law's microscope. So Biff can attempt Marty's vehicular slaughter with a whole gang of accessory passengers and, for some reason, Daniel needs a deal for the Cobra Kai kids to take a few months off from trying to harm him.
Me as a young nerd then: "Hell yeah, get 'em, stick up for yourself, take what's yours!"
Me as an old nerd now: "oh god why was this made?"
Imagine if he did 'Porky's'.
@@Logan7281X The cover of that movie is literally a guy looking through a glory hole...
@@CollinMcLean
Yup.
If I remember correctly, there are a bunch of crimes in that film series as well.
Well, the good news is you've grown. Some people still have the first mindset, even as supposedly mature adults. So good job on becoming a decent human being. /genuine
@@TiliaCordata unfortunately, the ones that didn't grow up ended up having kids and raising Zoomers
Here in Nebraska, the tourism board put out a new slogan "Honestly, it's not for everyone". The people in this movie, especially the huge violent dumb jock, are exactly who it's for. And if you put the college in the middle of the state, it would be in a huge corn field with nothing around for hundreds of miles. Absolutely nothin'. And who knew there were so many laws about battery and sexual assault, cause so many Husker football players got away with just that.
fun fact the center of nebraska is Broken Bow and Broken bow actually has a college . Mid Plains Community College. now since it's not UNL or UNO and esp since it's a community college at best it may have intramural clubs/sports/etc but it would not have fraternities . As a Nebraskan am I over analyzing this... yes, yes I am
"Got"? Past tense?
@@ManiacClown They got away with it and there is no sign of that changing anytime soon sadly
@@Jartran72 Hence my comment. I assumed exactly what you stated.
I graduated UNL in 1996, then moved back home in 2000. Not in NE.
I see nothing's changed. 😂😢
Let's not forget the pie charity scene when Lewis took pictures of a top less Betty and distributed them to raise charity. I don't know how many laws that would violate. Kinda pissed Betty still stayed with him after that.
Not just stayed with him… RotN3 (1993) revealed they got married!
@@DJParticle Not only were they married but they got married after Lewis cheated on Betty in the second movie.
@@MickFoley299 Yeah. Though one thing about the r*** scene though. I've been in Betty's situation before, sorta, because I also once gave retroactive consent to a guy. 😳
He must have been REALLY good in bed.
Wouldn't they need Betty's consent to legally do that
Not only does Ogre drop the guy off the roof, he visibly does so deliberately. He can't argue that the whole thing is an accident, or an attempt to prevent the other person from harming themselves.
The fact that a whole lot of people got together and agreed that what they were making was silly hijinks makes this the scariest horror movie I think I’ve ever seen
Also makes it a conspiracy. Not sure what for. But nothing good.
Ask Devin.
@@someperson4819 They literally make the "hero" commit rape, and the victim like it. WTF was wrong with the writers or us as viewers to not know how f*cked up that was at the time?
@@patrickmccurry1563 Rape culture. That's what.
@@peterobinson3678 humor. checks out
zoom zoom
What's kind of creepily hilarious is that there was a case where a guy fell off the balcony of a frat house and was killed at my college, smack dab in the middle of Nebraska.
And sad.
I’d LOVE to see Legal Eagle tackle Mrs. Doubtfire, because that dude does some deeply horrifying things.
I was actually pretty convinced he did, but then I checked and turns out it was Film Theory. :p So yeah that would be pretty cool.
That happens in quite a few Robin Williams movies. Now that I outgrew Disney, I don't think there's a movie he's in that I still like.
@@jenniferstine8567 Good WIll Hunting?
That's a horror movie disguised as a family comedy. Just a few tonal edits and it's a Halloween classic.
@Zach Hogan one hour photo
I was young enough to know Lewis as the dad on Lizzie McGuire before anything else. Imagine my surprise when, in college, I watched this and got to watch Lizzie’s dad be a predator lol
Oh god that would freak me out 🤦🏼♀️🤣
Literally my only knowledge of Revenge of the Nerds is how rapey it’s supposed to be
Objection! The Adams College, while fictional, was filmed at the University of Arizona in Tucson. The establishing shot shows the desert mountains outside of town , therefore we can assume the film is set somewhere in the Southwestern United States.
Source, I've lived in Nebraska where such mountains are not visible.
Only in fiction do we see mountains in the Great Plains
I have the silly hobby to ask people on YT
if they'd like some nice recommendations of any kind.
Science-Channel may be my favorite thing to share,
but that's not all, as i have kept my Interests and Hobbys
very diversified for my whole, entire life.
So i got all you can imagine (except Sports!)!
LOL Yes, the only mountains that exist in the entire Midwest are the Black Hills of South Dakota (in the area where Mount Rushmore is).
Let's chalk that one up as a major "goof" by the filmmakers! We can call that a "goof," because the rest of the film is anything but - sorry, but this film is not funny. It's quite horrifying!
I was combing the comments to see if anyone else noticed the mountains (Western Iowa here). Also, the sand-dunes, labeled highway signs, and sagebrush.
@matts1166 Central Iowa here.
And I completely forgot about the sand dunes and sagebrush.
LOL Yes, whoever was involved with the decision to shoot in the Southwest had never been to the Midwest! 😂😂😂
The most shocking thing about this video isn't the fact that they "did" a sheep, it's that they'd only get three months for it
Sheep can't testify.
What surprised me was when a state recently passed a law against sex with animals. I thought.. "Wasn't that already a crime?"
@@jmr what else do you do in Nebraska? /s
Insert welsh sheep joke
Jail is temporary. Memories are forever. 🤣
This being the 80's, they'll end up being elected to public office in 30 years.
I remember being encouraged to watch this movie because I’m very nerdy but I didn’t “relate” to the plight at all because I’m a female nerd lmao, for some strange reason I’ve never felt tempted to take revenge against jocks by stealing their underwear 😂
"Why yes she did answer the door wearing a negligee, and she immediately offers the boy sex. Things that would only happen in a 1980s frat movie."
Or the wrong kind of 21st century anime.
Could you tell me which ones specifically? A list maybe?
There's a right kind of 21st century anime?
Could you give some evidence I need to overview
I was a paper boy back in the 70s (kids used to deliver newspapers and collect payment), and the answering the door in a negligee part happened more than you'd think.
I cannot tell you how excited I was to hear someone else say that "defenestration" is their favorite word.
Same here! My favorite instance of it is the mob murder of informant Abe "Kid Twist" Reles. After he was defenestrated, the newspaper called him the "Stool pigeon that could sing, but couldn't fly."
OBJECTION! Daleks are not robots. They're a mutated warrior species encased in suits!
Or, if you're watching another TH-cam series, "Umm, Actually..."
he didnt say they were, only that the robot in the movie looks like the daleks
Nerd
You could say the suit is robotic.
counter OBJECTION! Daleks are not mutated. They are genetically enginered. Mutation is a natural process, and while it can be argued that mutation was the reason for the enginering, they are not naturally created.
OBJECTION: _Revenge of the Nerds_ is actually set in Arizona!
Okay, it's not *officially* set in Arizona, but the campus being filmed was the University of Arizona in -Tuscon- Tucson. If you look closely at the scene where they turn off the freeway and pass by the "ADAMS COLLEGE" sign, you'll see some hints of the real location, including a billboard for a -Tuscon- Tucson radio station.
(Apologies for the misspelling!)
Objection! *TUCSON* !
When people spell it "Tuscon" a Gila Woodpecker dies.
I think he goes with the location in the universe of the movie rather than it's IRL location. But thanks for the AZ shout out (:
Following that logic, Gone With The Wind takes place in Southern California.
@@joecope9935 Only if there are hints of the real location in the background, including a billboard for a Southern Californian radio station.
@@DaedalusYoung you can see the gates of Kong Island in the background during the scene when Atlanta burns....
That would be an interesting crossover! 😄
Speaking of Indecency with an Animal, one of the first executions in Plymouth colony (1642) was punishment to Thomas Graunger a man who committed such acts against "a mare, a cow, two goats, divers sheepe, two calves, and a turkey". Was the first incident of such a crime in the colonies. Your welcome for that factoid for this Thanksgiving! :)
just so you know, factoids are the bits of fake knowledge that spread like wildfire. a fact-fact. is just a fact
10 minutes of searching has been unproductive, but in 1984 quite a few states lacked anti-bestiality laws. Today [2023], two states still do not have statutes against bestiality, WV and NM.
I know this is a very old comment, but I just wanted to point out that "Speaking of Indecency with an Animal..." is the single best start to a sentence I've ever read.
Screw youtube, you could have tried a version without censoring the word 'rape'. It really needs to be said bluntly.
A professor once said to me, when I was in college (over 2 decades ago): "When you do it, it is called youthful indiscretion. When I do it, it is called Class-A misdemeanor."
Was it really a class A misdemeanor in the 1820s though?
Could you do a Laws Broken on Little Shop of Horrors? I’m curious to see if Seymour is guilty of murder or not.
Yes, he was. But to be fair, "Orin Scrivello, DDS" deserved it. And the scene with Martin and Murray was
Accessory to murder with Mr Mushnick and premeditated murder with Orin, not to mention illegal importation of a plant 😂
@@MurderMostFowl But he did not import the plant. And it is an unknown species so not sure if any of the prohibited classifications of plant life would apply to it.
@@thejudgmentalcat I'm not sure he would be, remember Scrivello choked on his own laughing gas, Seymour didn't save him but does he have any sort of duty of care? The most you might get Seymour with is assault for threatening him with the gun.
@@dukeskunk Seymour DID chop him up into small Audrey II-sized pieces tho.
This comment got a lot more traffic than I expected 🙂
The existence of these films is... disturbing to say the least. Not to mention the fact that I'm pretty sure real nerds during the 80s were more concerned with hiding their D&D hobby from religious zealots.
Isn't it messed up how the only way to make them likable in media is to go, "They're sick pervs just like you and me!" But they get away with it because they're not considered manly enough and therefore non-threatening somehow. Way to pull off misogyny and m/m toxic masculinity at the same time.
the intent was for these alpha nerds to get revenge for you
Seriously. This movie, and the sequels, were more a commentary on society's twisted view of nerddom. Not what actual nerddom was. Of course, they painted the extremely bad side of all the groups, just like Animal House, jus like Porky's, just like basically every college and/or "coming-of-age" type movie out there.
I mean jeez, Summer School probably was the closest to being a little accurate, and even that was way over the top and creepifying.
I'm pretty sure you're wrong about what real nerds during the 80s were concerned with.
@@UnconventionalReasoning Do some research on the satanic panic during the 80s, pretty much anything evangelists hated enough was in danger at the time.
Charles Barkley should have learned from Bobby Heenan. Let me rephrase:
“He threw some ice at me, I told him that was not very nice, then he got scared and tried jumping through the window to escape”
There was actually a skit on Robot Chicken where the nerds are sent to prison for what was mentioned
That Roger Ebert clip oof. “Human element” ahh yes “very relatable” characters…
It wasn't filmed last year you know...
@@Rikard_Nilsson I would still have expected Roger Ebert and general audiences to disapprove of rape.
@@johngalt200 it was the 80s. Audiences basically… didn’t mind.
@@JasperJanssen So what does that tell you about them...
very unwittingly revealing.
It took legal eagle 20 minutes to say all the crimes, imagine being in court and stating the crimes committed... "Your honor, frankly we don't have enough time to prove they've committed all these crimes. Can... Can we just focus on the big ones?"
Now I want to hear Legal Eagle analyze "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly."
If that would take too long, then at least the scene where Tuco's crimes are being read before the first attempted hanging.
Adult swim brought it up too.
Prosecutors actually do choose which crimes they want to focus on, and sometimes they will leave off a few crimes if they don't think they have enough evidence, or as a possibility to retry the defendant without violating double jeopardy.
Don't forget Judges also can take charges of the list.
What's the big deal? The twenty minutes includes cases like the landlady who propositions someone below the age of consent. She gets her own trial, IF IF IF we assume a witness reported it off-camera.
Then gotta separate the conduct of each frat/sorority. Then there are further individual crimes.
The moment I saw the thumbnail I immediately thought. Woah! His legal laws broken Meter is about to explode with all the violations.
Not as much as the time Batman hacked into a few million webcams all at once.
@@DaedalusYoung true. True.
So essentially Revenge of the Nerds should have ended like Monty Python and the Holy Grail with everyone arrested
*Ogre hanging guy over the railing*
Lewis: He must be a king
Gilbert: How can you tell?
Lewis: He hasn't got shit all over him.
*during the jock strap treatment scene*
Booger: 1...2...5!
Poindexter: 3 sir.
Monty Python and the Revenge of the Nerds needs to be a thing now!
“Strap in, it’s about to get real pedantic” is a great tag line
Wooo man if there's an 80s movie that doesn't age well, it's this
Porky’s
Soul Man; The Toy
@@maieen2665 I never thought Porky's or Revenge of the Nerds were funny. Soul man was meh to begin with. I can't understand what's wrong with "The Toy" unless it's white fragility, The Joke was always on the stupidity and horror of white supremacy. Much like tropic Thunder, it's not a specific behavior that's the issue, it's the context and how it's framed. Just because the Nazi's were a nightmare doesn't mean we don't make movies about them, it means they're framed as the bad guys. RDJ's Kirk Lazarus is a villain. All the white people are villains in "The Toy", and Richard Pryor is trying to save the boy from following the same path originally for money and then because he forms a bond with the kid. What's wrong with that. This doesn't even fall into the category of "Magical Minority" - Richard Pryor's character has motives goals and agency.
Almost any SNL alum movie.
@@alexdasliebe5391 Porky's has stood the test of time.
There was this strange concept of sexualized revenge done by the protagonists that I think may have started in M*A*S*H with the Hot Lips scene. You see versions of it in Porky's, Revenge of the Nerds, Police Academy. What I think people forget is that the protagonists in M*A*S*H are all pretty terrible people to begin with. Their behavior was not an example to be followed.
Yeah, the movie was closer to the book. They would not have done this on the TV show.
I'm getting the feeling that the end of "16 Candles" broke a TON of laws.
"Liscense To Drive" is one long crime spree as well.
Oh yeah, another movie that did not age well at all....
Everything from the party onward is a series of felonies and misdemeanors.
Ted ra*** Jake’s (ex)girlfriend and Jake put him up to it.
Yo, make more laws broken. I love these videos so much on every movies, shows and media around the world. Because it makes me learn more about laws.
Fun fact: "window" in French is "fenêtre" so "defenestration" can be is like "unwindowing someone".
I think everyone had one infamous scene pop right into their head when they saw the title of this video lol
The panty raid or the kind-of-sort-of-rape thing?
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kind of sort of?
@@christophero3869 yeah, the rape scene
@@christophero3869 lol it's just rape, nothing kinda sorta about it
I always assumed that he DOES reveal himself at some point before sex, but AFTER making out with her. She seems to know who he is, later, and there are obviously behind-the-scenes communications between the two of them. It's STILL sexual assault, but I always figured she really left that tent knowing who he was.
As soon as I saw the title of this video, I said out loud to nobody; "Ohh buddy. This is gonna be a good one."
I've seen this movie so many times. I knew what was coming.
I was curious how long it would be... Just to find out about a long version 😂
Revenge of the Nerds has always been one of those "I need to get around to it" movies. After this, I think I'm just going to throw it over to "Nah, I'm good" and just not watch it.
I’m gonna throw it into a bonfire.
Perhaps you could watch it on physical media anyway. I don't expect to like this movie, but I'm fascinated by pieces of media that were once beloved but today, everyone agrees are actually awful.
You'll be missing out, great movie.
It’s hilarious, and the horribly dated parts make it even better.
Just watch the big musical number at the end
"Takes place somewhere in the midwest."
_Looks at those huge, steep mountains,_ "We're not in the midwest anymore, Toto."
To ppl in LA, 'midwest' is anywhere 'out east somewhere' that isn't directly on the atlantic coast
It's very common for movies that supposedly take place another part to the country to be obviously LA. Note the lovely palm trees of Haddonfield IL in "Halloween"
I've heard a lot of things referencing "panty raids" so either that's just a crazy thing that college movies made up, or back in the day colleges allowed a whole lot of crimes and violations.
And considering the problems some of them continue to have, I'm leaning towards "colleges just allowing crimes for no reason"
There should be 'Revenge of the Himbos' where they berate the nerds for stalking woman and literally drugging to r*** them.
This movie is really messed up
A movie where the himbos' murder the nerds then stalk and drug the same woman? Sounds great./s
A film about nerds using their brains to get the jocks to leave and now the jocks have to outsmart the nerds
@@KumaoftheForest The Jocks hire a nerdy girl to outsmart and take down the r*pey nerds. Maybe a romance developing being the head jock and nerdy girl ? ❤
Please don't use the term 'protagonist' like you would the word 'hero'. A protagonist is merely a main character. If someone made a movie about a certain 1930s-40s German chancellor with all the horrible things he was responsible for on full display in a condemnatory manner, he would still be a protagonist. The issue is that we're meant to side with the nerds in this.
I think he's using the term protagonist to not dignify them with hero status.
Very good point
I *love* this movie. It's one of my very favorites. That's why it hurts so much to watch now and just have to see all the *wrong*. The sheer amount of *wrong*. Didn't seem wrong when I was kid. As an adult? Oh, it hurts.
Because the grown ups were laughing and no one displayed signs of lasting hurt, so everything seems fine and normal.
At least you're one of the people fortunate enough to realize this.
Thank you for this video. This movie has shocked, disgusted, and haunted me for a long time, and I'm grossed out whenever someone proudly quotes it as a nerd. I loved when you said "this is when Revenge of the Nerds" becomes "Revenge of the Incels". That's exactly it. So many crimes against women are seen as funny and/or justified. Obviously, the crimes committed against the nerds are bad as well but those are committed by the bad guys, not by the "heroes".
It was a hard video to watch because I knew what was coming and I wasn't looking forward to it but you're doing a great service by raising more awareness of the issues and pointing out that Lewis is the main villain of the movie.
And fellow nerds, please don't use psychopathic criminals as role models. There are so many wholesome nerds to look up to.
5:04 Defenestration is one of MY favorite words, too! It's such a funny one! I find it a pretty amazing coincidence that we both find that word funny XD
I'm impressed you know so much history behind it, and if you know about the death of Garry Hoy, you probably had a good reason not to mention his particular case of defenestration, haha.
12:12 I always found it funny how the Pi-girls didn't notice that their walls suddenly had a bunch of periscopes with huge camera-lenses in them
I was always curios after the panty raid...why didn't the ladies call campus security or the cops. the nerds would have been expelled and charges pressed against them (and the movie would be over)
@@bigbabysld Answer to both questions: because those ladies aren't characters, they are just a mix of trophy and sex doll that doesn't need blowing up. Very special new feature of the pi model: makes pleasant "ohhhh i never had it this good" noises.
Though I guess it might count as equality that almost anybody else in that movie is a walking stereotype, too.
So you’re saying … “We didn’t start the fire; it was always burning since the world’s been turning” could be a valid legal defense?
It pretty much is. But you can't just say that you didn't light it, you also have to mention that you tried to fight it.
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No. Just, no.
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 And then start listing a bunch of unrelated people and events from the 20th century. That's key.
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 and don't flee the scene. because when you're gone the fire will burn on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
I watched Revenge of the Nerds like a couple of years ago and I've never been more uncomfortable watching a movie in my life. Creepy doesn't begin to describe it.
Try watching "Little Man."
@@ElPayasoMalo I watched it around the time it came out, but I don't really remember any of it. I'm not going to rewatch it and subject myself to that kind of horror.
Literally how I felt watching Sixteen Candles a couple years back.
@@ElPayasoMalo On the contrary. Nobody should ever be exposed to this nightmare. Our teachers accidentally played it for us on the bus during a school trip and fell asleep. At some point we woke them up and got them to turn this monstrosity off. It still makes me nauseous.
@@b.parker1740 That. I kept seeing it described as a classic, so I thought I'd catch up on it. Needless to say, I regretted it. Such a deeply uncomfortable film...
Roger Ebert was a huge nerd and you could tell he loved what that movie represented to him.
1:25 - Let's set the scene
17:20 - Dishonorable mentions
17:50 - The verdict
18:20 - End roll ads
Of course Rocky Horror Picture Show also has two rape by deception scenes but those bother me less than this movie because Frank, while very likeable, was more explicitly a villain. I'd love to see that movie looked at as well in terms of laws broken. I don't think Brad or Janet broke many if any laws, but other characters more than make up for that.
It works better there simply because he IS a villain.
The nerds were presented as heroes here.
I gotta say, bleeping out "rape" makes it sound simultaneously better and worse than it is.
Ngl, I thought he was saying something else in that context.
I assume its for the algorithm, rape is an unpleasant word but not a slur or anything like that.
Rape was even blurred with the sentencing which seemed odd. But
youtube would have flag him and he did not want to make anyone uncomfible
it's a very sensetive and triggering word for many people, plus the youtube algorithm
They probably thought it was a very funny joke that even non-consensual intimate contact with Lewis was so much more satisfying for Betty than anything she has ever done with Stan that she completely fell in love with the former. Talk about poorly aged jokes...
*rolls eyes*
She did marry him.
@@simonwinn8757 Because this was a sick fantasy written by men, duh.
@@SafetySpooon “men bad grrr”
@@knghtcmdr The ones that wrote it, yes.
15:20 If the word "rape" is now forbidden, how are rape cases supposed to even be prosecuted? Also, if you can't say "rape", how can you say "murder", clearly a much more heinous crime?
Kid at the door w/the landlady: "I need an adult."
Landlady: "I AM an adult!"
"Revenge of the Incels" is right, lmao. Really good to see you slam this really horribly-dated movie
It's so cool to see such woke people being ok with othering people based on gender.
@@DominicNJ73 the incel is upsetti spaghetti.
@@DominicNJ73 Who's othering who based on gender? The last incel I crossed blades with was a woman.
Reddit moment
@@tuffy135ify It is pretty shitty to say that a man's only worth is how much sex he's had.
Ah yes “Defenestration” the fancy word for yeeting someone out a window.
Still my favorite DnD story, someone casting "Command", which forces someone to follow a single word command, with them being able to resist by interpreting what exactly it means to them and the command word is "autodefenestrate". It doesn't really get any harder to wile your way out of dying to a command than "throw yourself out of a window".
No movie brawl are complete without at least one of thease.
@@Arkios64 Does the commanded have a time limit to follow the command? For example, if on the 3rd floor of a building a character got "Command" cast on them with the command "autodefenestrate", must they immediately jump out of the nearest window? Or would they be able to maintain enough self preservation to be able to immediately run down to the first floor and jump out of the first window they find down there? Or would that be a DM call? Must they jump through a window even if it is closed, or would (again) self preservation allow them to first open the window if possible?
Defenestrate does sound like 3.5 feat with a lot of prerequisites
Seems like a DM call,@@Sembazuru , nice question. Though I’m sure I have neighbors & buds who don’t know what “autodefenstrate” means so what then? I’m sure rules cover that, but I’m too lazy to get my 2nd Ed rule books.
I would like to submit a legal motion for your next Laws Broken segment; Smokey and The Bandit.
I second this!
Oooh! That would be_good_.
I love that crazy movie, but I don't know that there are enough different laws being broken to make an interesting movie. I mean speeding, evading police, some vandalism here and there is about it. The central conceit that unautohorized interstate transport of Coors beer in particular was never true.
@@jetblack99 transportation of alcohol across state borders without the appropriate licenses, conspiracy, unlawful arrest... also Devin could easily do the series not just the first if he needed padding.
Stuff like this really makes you wonder what modern things will be considered horrible in the future.
The nerds show at the end will forever remain classic, no matter the other faults of the film.
Ahh, Laws Broken, a nice series from a more civilized time...
Speaking of Daleks, Doctor Who is a good show with a season long arc called "Trial of a Time Lord". I know you're not a Gallifreyan lawyer, but it'd be interesting to see you react
Eh, the trial was more a framing device for 6 unconnected stories. There wasn't much to the actual trial.
@@robbybevard8034 Shhhh I just want more Doctor Who content in the world!
The real crime here is Devin not giving props for the nerds' Devo-style musical number at the end of the movie.
Absolutely love the suit. Not the biggest fan of the pattern on the fabric in general but it works on you.
It’s pretty obvious that the movie was filmed in the Tucson area ( I live in AZ myself ) but it’s pretty clear it is meant to take place somewhere else because of the different house styles and everyone is dressed in sweaters, jackets and long sleeves. You can even see people’s breath in some parts.
Deserts are actually very cold at night.
I was such a nerd back then, I remember calling out a lot of bs in this movie.
Horrifyingly, I saw it in the theater with my mom when I was around 10. And none of the true horror hit us. That fact alone is arguably more horrifying to me now than the movie itself.
A lot of it was supposed to be over the top comedy and just so silly that it kind of hid the crimes under the guise of that
Before we even start, this has to be one of the most criminally culpable movies I've seen
I can’t imagine how women reacted to scenes depicting sex crimes as funny.
This would require the filmmakers to consider women's perspectives for a fraction of a second.
Cultural conditioning
I feel bad for the actresses.
I was cringing and shouting the things I'd be saying to them in that situation. Cause yeah it's not funny, it was really creepy.
The movie made me cry and want to throw up and I get grossed out when it's mentioned, if that helps you imagine it better. I suppose it depends on the woman, of course. But as a woman and a nerd, this is a movie I wish never existed for so many reasons...
Maybe they should remake this film where they commit all the same crimes, but people around them respond realistically. It would be a thriller of course, probably best from the perspective of the women.
Funny how Robot Chicken was way ahead of you legally legal. They did an alternate ending where the nerds gets sentenced to 45 years to life in prison. After their misdeeds they are sentenced to prison and well one of them dreams about making a difference for inmates. To which they only lasted a few seconds in prison 🤣🤣🤣
I have to say, I really like that this one goes to the trouble of citing laws accurate to the state and time the movie is set and how they've changed. There's been a couple Real Lawyer Reacts videos where I've wondered if the laws mentioned are accurate to when the thing was made or if the laws differ by state (I think he uses New York as a default if unstated?).
Been missing the Laws Broken videos. Happy to see more!
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!! I graduated High School in 1985, so Revenge of the Nerds was part of my teens. You had me laughing and agreeing and this was priceless!!! Thank you so much for not making it only behind Nebula's paywall.
as a Nebraskan, I can confirm that people will throw you off of a roof if you are wearing a pocket protector
"These were probably the same guys 35 years later who stormed the capital"
Oh honey. No. They're the Senators.
And supreme court justices.
Nah the jocks are the senators, still abusing their power to this day. Stinkin liberals.
A lot of this movie went straight over my head.
I also hate The Big Bang Theory.
I can only imagine how much of an ordeal it must have been to watch this movie from with the mindset of "just how many laws got broken in this thing?".
Well, when it kinda starts as a distraction of the snuff film part... Yeah!
Would love to see a Laws Broken for PCU, the 90's answer to Revenge of the Nerds. So many fun laws to explore there.
Ah, I loved that movie when I was in college. Jeremy Piven is always great.
And yeah, there are some pretty interesting and corner-case scenarios in that movie.
Was more the 90s answer to Animal House
You're wearing the shirt of the band you're going to see on concert? don't be that guy
I saw it in the theatre on a church beach retreat. I was 14 and loved it, of course.
I've been watching these videos for the past few days and I love finally seeing and hearing about defenestration