Polestar 2 Dual Motor is within 10% of Tesla Model Y Performance in Edmund's EV range tests. Which is very good as both motors were on during testing and it weighs much more than Tesla Y does.
The Polestar 2 is well built with good performance. The biggest issue, for me, is the interior. Space is at a premium, there is no 12 volt port in the front and the cupholders are definitely an afterthought. The updates are an absolute plus, but they need to rework that interior and adjust the price to be more competitive.
Dang, even more so than before I'm glad we leased our dual motor. Once it's up in 2025 I could see a long range single motor in our future. Also hoping for some changes to the center console/cup holder situation but no pictures of the inside yet.
I really liked the Polestar 2 when it first arrived, and loved the exterior design, but IMO, it was inferior to the Model 3 in several metrics(power/range, etc). Now that the changes are being made, the P2 has really become a more compelling and competitive option. This is now at the top of my list. I almost bought the ubiquitous Model 3--it's still the benchmark, but I like driving something not so popular, and under the radar. Looking forward to the test drive.
I speculate that the bigger battery pack is using a module that physically occupies the space that is otherwise used for the front motor, making it an either/or proposition.
Man, this solidifies it for me. I'm going to buy a Polestar probably later this year or early next year. I've rented a Polestar a couple of times and loved them, much more than the Tesla 3 and Y. I've test driven other cars as well and this is favorite to drive so far. It's not perfect. i don't understand the 1 cupholder thing with the second cupholder in the arm rest but that's not a deal breaker.
You can get the 476hp power upgrade (software) for the 2022 and 2021 model years by paying for it. The 2023 model includes the extra power in the performance pack, which also of course includes the adjustable dampers, upgraded brakes, and unique wheels. I believe this is the same for 2024. So if your 2023 or 2024 doesn’t have the power upgrade, it also doesn’t have the upgraded hardware. You can get the software update but of course not the rest of the performance pack stuff later as an OTA software upgrade.
Is the XC40 Recharge going to get these changes to the motors and battery? A shame they don't bring a RWD XC40 here. And when. does the Polestar 4 arrive?
Was pretty close to getting the Polestar 2 last month, but just couldn't justify spending as much on leasing a Polestar 2 as outright buying a used Honda Clarity instead, which is what I went with. I really hope they start manufacturing these in North America some day, it could really use that tax credit.
I'll be interested to see if this prompts any real changes in the pricing for the current cars. I'd be perfectly okay with the LRSM P2 if there was a significant drop in the current MSRP - or maybe just an aggressive leasing deal!
Lest see what the Polestar 3 is going to be like, but love the bigger battery on the single motor, although a single motor in the front does allow for better regen, especially in in the colder season I am on the fence with the RWD although torque steer is bothersome on the front motor.
I would like a Polestar interior designer to spend a week in North America so they could understand we all like cupholders. We drink beverages on the road. We bring bottles of water and stick them in the door pockets. It's not taboo over here. Then, this car would be on my list.
Interesting, in Australia I have used a cup holder perhaps once a year for a single drink. So the interior is fine with me. Strange how different the interior demands are from around the world.
Any news on if they will be changing the interior. Competitors like Tesla, you get leather as standard rather than paying an extra few thousand to get the upgrade. That’s the only down fall to the PS2, if they had that as standard I say it would be more appealing to buyers.
if EV6 didnt exist, P2 would be my choice. I love my EV6 though, P2 has better infotainment and when it comes to updates. Kia/Hyundai is lacking in software department.
Volvos and Polstars have great styling but efficiency, not so much. 81 kWh * 3 miles = 243 EPA miles is the bare minimum. 81 kWh * 4 EPA miles = 324 miles, which Tesla, Hyundai and Lucid can do is the range benchmark at this point.
Volvo has never been about efficiency. They're about being solidly built, comfortable, crashworthy and offer a Scandinavian type of European premium vehicle. They can have decent efficiency but efficiency isn't their aim and I don't expect it to be even in the new generation.
@ 3:17 This is a minor beef but I wish sedan designers would get away from the high rear deck which is so common these days. It obscures your view but I suppose it does give you a bit more trunk space. How about a design like some older Jags with a rear end that slopes off just as much as the front? The Ioniq 6 has the look but Hyundai blocks the view with a second spoiler. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@surturiel I suppose but if that were the case shouldn't more EV's be shaped like the Aptera or the Lightyear One? Anyhoo, I hope Aptera is able to start selling theirs. 😀
Oh no Polestar you have ruined the design the flat colour coded panel particularly on light coloured cars looks awful, it’s lost the muscular and sporty look that the black honeycomb grille brought.
@@surturiel There are not selling well in their manufacturing location. They are not selling well in HK and to my understanding in Australia. I regret for my miscommunication. But even in Europe Polestar 2 is not within top 10 of BEV/PHEV category in 2022 up to Nov. (if they can make into top 10 in 2022, it is probably at the bottom) I believe that is why they make such dramatic enhancement to their car so soon.
They are not selling well in my town. 50 new and used P2's. But, nothing is selling well except pickup trucks. When the recession hits, nothing will sell at all.
@@Tbell550 Agreed that nothing will sell well under recession. My comment is only referring to the past 1-2 years where there was a huge surge of demand on EV and P2 is not selling well relatively to their competitors.
@@huckietam6746 Their manufacturing location is not their home location. Polestar 2 has met its sales goals. Polestar is not meant to be a mass-market high seller.
Can we at least get a roof that opens I’m tired of these electric cars with no sunroof that opens. Also I’m sad that they did not give the upgrade battery to the dual motor
It just me or do the PS2 tires stick out really far from the fenders, I imagine from its use of wider wheels/tires? If so, that can't be great for aero and water/dirt spraying on the side of the car, nor for rolling resistance. Wider stance / tires help with handling, but why not just widen the car another inch and add some interior space since it'll have the same aero impact? The PS2's original drag coefficient of .278 which hurts its highway efficiency / range, and it has a slightly larger front surface area than the model 3 (1" taller). Some of their dimensional choices are a bit odd. Versus the model 3, it's the same width, but slightly shorter in length and slightly taller than the model 3, yet manages to restrict rear head room. The shorter length is likely having a negative impact on drag coefficient and interior space. Add in the questionable interior design with that really weird center console where the second cup holder is under the arm rest, how the front of the console intrudes on leg room, how the odd gear lever blocks some of the buttons. I really just don't get the design of this car. It does have a major benefit in the hatch, but had the car been longer, maybe the rear seat would have had more headroom, legroom, and wouldn't have needed the transmission tunnel hump. Yes, people rave about how well it drives, but some of these design choices are just ... terrible. To add, this vehicle is manufactured in China with low wage labor and high coal energy use, and imported into North America and Europe. People... that just ain't very good for the Western economies, nor for well paid / well treated Western automotive workers, nor for the environment. Why are people buying this car in Europe / North America... are ya'll trying to kill US/European automotive jobs and the environment? On the plus side, at 'least' Polestar is being hit with a 27.5% tariff on imports to the US, and 10% for imports to Europe. That tariff is probably the ONLY reason Tesla isn't importing cars to North America from China, but they have started importing massive volumes of Chinese batteries...which are only getting hit with a 7.5% tariff. Yep, that's your 'most American' company for ya. Ayayaya.....
Rented a polestar2 for a week earlier this year. Nice fit and finish but horrible waste of space inside. Freaking tiny and still lots of design features from the ICE counterpart. The Model 3 is cheaper is far more spacious and a better vehicle overall.
@@Tbell550 They also need a lot more refinement. I understand they're fast and fun to drive to an extent, but the whole package just doesn't come together as well as a car as Hyundai//Kia and Polestar. But as long as Tesla sells boatloads of them, there's no incentive for them to work on refinement and they'll keep emphasizing volume over refinement.
this is a much different car than the Ioniq 5. It is much more sporting and of the 3, the Polestar is the best built with the Ioniq 5 second and Model 3 a distant last. The Ioniq 5 is actually a big hatchback so it has more room in it. It's a really nice vehicle though, but different than the Model 3 or Polestar 2 which are both sedans and sportier.
@@billyrock8305 Current UCL history student here - if you think that China has a brutal history of human rights, you're in for a rude awakening when you look at Japan, the US, and practically every European empire. Polestar is a publicly-traded company with partial Chinese ownership that produces its products in China (with US production starting in 2024). If you boycotted every company with Chinese-made products, you'd end up with pretty much nothing. Get that xenophobic crap out of here. I hate the CCP as much as the next guy, but the reality is that casting down entire companies by the sole virtue of being partially owned by a Chinese company in no way solves anything.
My 2021 P2 with the HP upgrade does 0-60 in about 3.8-3.9s. It's great!
The front motor will disengage when not needed, hence a significant increase in range for the dual motor versions.
Polestar 2 Dual Motor is within 10% of Tesla Model Y Performance in Edmund's EV range tests. Which is very good as both motors were on during testing and it weighs much more than Tesla Y does.
I prefer the older grille instead this blank color keyed
It’s for their smart sensors they’re putting on the new models. It will have car monitoring and auto pilot
I love the Polestar 2. If i were to buy an EV, that would probably be it, especially after this 2024 tweak.
The Polestar 2 is well built with good performance. The biggest issue, for me, is the interior. Space is at a premium, there is no 12 volt port in the front and the cupholders are definitely an afterthought. The updates are an absolute plus, but they need to rework that interior and adjust the price to be more competitive.
It's hidden under the arm rest storage box. So to keep its neat and minimalist dash
Isn’t it amazing that the classic car market continues to flourish? I mean no cup holders Duh!
Sister has one and someone hit her car. Minor mess up but 6 months for parts. If she totaled it, a new one costs 15K more.
The range is fine on our PS2 DM. We only charge once a week at home or a "working" EA charger. lol
Dang, even more so than before I'm glad we leased our dual motor. Once it's up in 2025 I could see a long range single motor in our future. Also hoping for some changes to the center console/cup holder situation but no pictures of the inside yet.
hopefully they can do something about the console, there is a lot of wasted space that could be turned to proper use!
I really liked the Polestar 2 when it first arrived, and loved the exterior design, but IMO, it was inferior to the Model 3 in several metrics(power/range, etc). Now that the changes are being made, the P2 has really become a more compelling and competitive option. This is now at the top of my list. I almost bought the ubiquitous Model 3--it's still the benchmark, but I like driving something not so popular, and under the radar. Looking forward to the test drive.
Come on Alex, there is no battery mystery here. US is not getting Chinese CATL and other markets are…
I speculate that the bigger battery pack is using a module that physically occupies the space that is otherwise used for the front motor, making it an either/or proposition.
What is the chemistry of the new CATL supplied batteries. Where I am the base model polestar is sold out so I have no choice but to wait.
Man, this solidifies it for me. I'm going to buy a Polestar probably later this year or early next year. I've rented a Polestar a couple of times and loved them, much more than the Tesla 3 and Y. I've test driven other cars as well and this is favorite to drive so far. It's not perfect. i don't understand the 1 cupholder thing with the second cupholder in the arm rest but that's not a deal breaker.
Love the new front end, huge improvement over that old dated cheesegrater ICE grill!
It’s interesting, I’m renewed in my interest in polestar… We’ll see if they have some interesting colors… for now, ID4 is great 😸
The grille on my 2022 definitely isn't faux. There's a radiator behind it.
Plus, the 2023 Performance gets a Polestar badge on the grill. I prefer or 2023. Just wish we had that extra torque!
They fix the TCAM issues?
You can get the 476hp power upgrade (software) for the 2022 and 2021 model years by paying for it. The 2023 model includes the extra power in the performance pack, which also of course includes the adjustable dampers, upgraded brakes, and unique wheels. I believe this is the same for 2024. So if your 2023 or 2024 doesn’t have the power upgrade, it also doesn’t have the upgraded hardware. You can get the software update but of course not the rest of the performance pack stuff later as an OTA software upgrade.
This will really be competitive if price can be in the 40s
Good update. Now polestar is on the table. I like polestar, but it’s pricey. They need to do something improvements to the interior.
Is the XC40 Recharge going to get these changes to the motors and battery? A shame they don't bring a RWD XC40 here. And when. does the Polestar 4 arrive?
my favourite EV on sale today, only wish I could afford one, lol.
I really wonder how the efficiency turns out to be with the new hardware!
Claimed about 10% more efficient. 15-ish per 100 km.
Was pretty close to getting the Polestar 2 last month, but just couldn't justify spending as much on leasing a Polestar 2 as outright buying a used Honda Clarity instead, which is what I went with. I really hope they start manufacturing these in North America some day, it could really use that tax credit.
I'll be interested to see if this prompts any real changes in the pricing for the current cars. I'd be perfectly okay with the LRSM P2 if there was a significant drop in the current MSRP - or maybe just an aggressive leasing deal!
Lest see what the Polestar 3 is going to be like, but love the bigger battery on the single motor, although a single motor in the front does allow for better regen, especially in in the colder season I am on the fence with the RWD although torque steer is bothersome on the front motor.
I would like a Polestar interior designer to spend a week in North America so they could understand we all like cupholders. We drink beverages on the road. We bring bottles of water and stick them in the door pockets. It's not taboo over here. Then, this car would be on my list.
So true, and the Volvo platform mates all have plenty of cup holders, like lol let's knee cap our interiors?
Interesting, in Australia I have used a cup holder perhaps once a year for a single drink. So the interior is fine with me. Strange how different the interior demands are from around the world.
So, first, the Polestar 2 started life as an AWD EV, then, it was in both FWD and AWD, and now, if RWD and AWD, with better range for the RWD model
Any news on if they will be changing the interior. Competitors like Tesla, you get leather as standard rather than paying an extra few thousand to get the upgrade. That’s the only down fall to the PS2, if they had that as standard I say it would be more appealing to buyers.
if EV6 didnt exist, P2 would be my choice. I love my EV6 though, P2 has better infotainment and when it comes to updates. Kia/Hyundai is lacking in software department.
I have the ev6 too and love it. Didn’t like the polestar interior and it was quite expensive in my opinion. Range is bad compared to my ev6.
I got the EV6 back when it was 48k with a $7500 tax credit. Those days are gone.
Happy the Chinese S40 kept the rear design. One of the best looking rear ends of new cars but think the new grill is a down grade.
Alex, what are you seeing different with the hood? It looks exactly the same as my 2021 to my eye.
The key is, how much money? The base polestar 2 was not bad.
Volvos and Polstars have great styling but efficiency, not so much. 81 kWh * 3 miles = 243 EPA miles is the bare minimum. 81 kWh * 4 EPA miles = 324 miles, which Tesla, Hyundai and Lucid can do is the range benchmark at this point.
Volvo has never been about efficiency. They're about being solidly built, comfortable, crashworthy and offer a Scandinavian type of European premium vehicle. They can have decent efficiency but efficiency isn't their aim and I don't expect it to be even in the new generation.
Great car….
@ 3:17 This is a minor beef but I wish sedan designers would get away from the high rear deck which is so common these days. It obscures your view but I suppose it does give you a bit more trunk space. How about a design like some older Jags with a rear end that slopes off just as much as the front? The Ioniq 6 has the look but Hyundai blocks the view with a second spoiler. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Aerodynamics, that's why.
@@surturiel I suppose but if that were the case shouldn't more EV's be shaped like the Aptera or the Lightyear One? Anyhoo, I hope Aptera is able to start selling theirs. 😀
Oh no Polestar you have ruined the design the flat colour coded panel particularly on light coloured cars looks awful, it’s lost the muscular and sporty look that the black honeycomb grille brought.
The current Polestar 2 is not selling well. It is nice to see an update like this so good and so swiftly. Good work. It is now competitive.
Not selling well? they sold 100k+ units in 2 years.
@@surturiel There are not selling well in their manufacturing location. They are not selling well in HK and to my understanding in Australia. I regret for my miscommunication. But even in Europe Polestar 2 is not within top 10 of BEV/PHEV category in 2022 up to Nov. (if they can make into top 10 in 2022, it is probably at the bottom) I believe that is why they make such dramatic enhancement to their car so soon.
They are not selling well in my town. 50 new and used P2's.
But, nothing is selling well except pickup trucks. When the recession hits, nothing will sell at all.
@@Tbell550 Agreed that nothing will sell well under recession. My comment is only referring to the past 1-2 years where there was a huge surge of demand on EV and P2 is not selling well relatively to their competitors.
@@huckietam6746 Their manufacturing location is not their home location. Polestar 2 has met its sales goals. Polestar is not meant to be a mass-market high seller.
Can we at least get a roof that opens I’m tired of these electric cars with no sunroof that opens. Also I’m sad that they did not give the upgrade battery to the dual motor
Love this car, but the price is way too high... Should be in the range of Tesla.
the car it should have been, at a price that doesnt make sense.
6 second 0-60 isn't too different from the Kia EV6 RWD at 6.5. Except the Kia has a 10 year warranty.
Is not for 2024 if you order it now you get it in August 2023
It’s overpriced by 10k over the Model 3 in Canada. And the rear seats are too tight. I see no reason to even consider buying this.
Used prices are where it is at!
@@normt430 used? They are dropping a bit but still wildly overinflated in Canada.
@@kevinn1158 Autotrader is show used 2021 Model Y Perf at US$48-49K while a P*2 is about $7K less.
@@normt430 I don’t live in the US. I live in Canada.
@@kevinn1158 research your country and compare. I would be interested.
It just me or do the PS2 tires stick out really far from the fenders, I imagine from its use of wider wheels/tires? If so, that can't be great for aero and water/dirt spraying on the side of the car, nor for rolling resistance. Wider stance / tires help with handling, but why not just widen the car another inch and add some interior space since it'll have the same aero impact? The PS2's original drag coefficient of .278 which hurts its highway efficiency / range, and it has a slightly larger front surface area than the model 3 (1" taller). Some of their dimensional choices are a bit odd. Versus the model 3, it's the same width, but slightly shorter in length and slightly taller than the model 3, yet manages to restrict rear head room. The shorter length is likely having a negative impact on drag coefficient and interior space.
Add in the questionable interior design with that really weird center console where the second cup holder is under the arm rest, how the front of the console intrudes on leg room, how the odd gear lever blocks some of the buttons. I really just don't get the design of this car. It does have a major benefit in the hatch, but had the car been longer, maybe the rear seat would have had more headroom, legroom, and wouldn't have needed the transmission tunnel hump. Yes, people rave about how well it drives, but some of these design choices are just ... terrible. To add, this vehicle is manufactured in China with low wage labor and high coal energy use, and imported into North America and Europe. People... that just ain't very good for the Western economies, nor for well paid / well treated Western automotive workers, nor for the environment. Why are people buying this car in Europe / North America... are ya'll trying to kill US/European automotive jobs and the environment?
On the plus side, at 'least' Polestar is being hit with a 27.5% tariff on imports to the US, and 10% for imports to Europe. That tariff is probably the ONLY reason Tesla isn't importing cars to North America from China, but they have started importing massive volumes of Chinese batteries...which are only getting hit with a 7.5% tariff. Yep, that's your 'most American' company for ya. Ayayaya.....
Rented a polestar2 for a week earlier this year. Nice fit and finish but horrible waste of space inside. Freaking tiny and still lots of design features from the ICE counterpart. The Model 3 is cheaper is far more spacious and a better vehicle overall.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🚘
I'll stick with model 3 , great car best charging infrastructure, proven, many accessories, unlike polestar that's not available everywhere yet.
They are all over the place, like VW bugs. Desperately need a total redesign. Fast and efficient. But, just plain boring. Sorry for that.
@@Tbell550 They also need a lot more refinement. I understand they're fast and fun to drive to an extent, but the whole package just doesn't come together as well as a car as Hyundai//Kia and Polestar. But as long as Tesla sells boatloads of them, there's no incentive for them to work on refinement and they'll keep emphasizing volume over refinement.
and that fart function…don’t forget that!👍🏻
Still not competitive enough to consider instead of the Model 3 or Ioniq 5.
this is a much different car than the Ioniq 5. It is much more sporting and of the 3, the Polestar is the best built with the Ioniq 5 second and Model 3 a distant last. The Ioniq 5 is actually a big hatchback so it has more room in it. It's a really nice vehicle though, but different than the Model 3 or Polestar 2 which are both sedans and sportier.
Overpriced. Brutal range. No service or dealer network 👎🏿
Not wasting any money on a mess like that. 🤢
Expert Score - 3/10 👎🏿
Have you by any chance heard of a tiny, little-known Swedish company called Volvo? I think they've produced a car or two.
Where do you live? In a cave! ….. you don’t have a clue, but this doesn’t stop you from giving @#$&ing opinion.
@@billyrock8305 Current UCL history student here - if you think that China has a brutal history of human rights, you're in for a rude awakening when you look at Japan, the US, and practically every European empire. Polestar is a publicly-traded company with partial Chinese ownership that produces its products in China (with US production starting in 2024). If you boycotted every company with Chinese-made products, you'd end up with pretty much nothing. Get that xenophobic crap out of here. I hate the CCP as much as the next guy, but the reality is that casting down entire companies by the sole virtue of being partially owned by a Chinese company in no way solves anything.
Do they not share with Volvo? I assumed (I know......) they do.
@@Joe-lb8qn they do.