Tom Hades, great video, you say you limit yourself with ableton for just the creative process, do you then mix-master in protools or something like that?
1:58 -use sequencer on chopped synth loop to create unique synth melodies in key 5:24 - use ml 185 (based on system 100 seq) on chopped synth loop to create other melody 6:05 - use ableton pitch device to tune your sequence in key 8:10 - use resonator on percs w/ reverb & modulated filters to create ambient pads (crowd seems to be somewhat perplexed at how seemingly computer generated techno music really is xD) 13:07 - use apulsoft apQualizer modular eq plugin to make creative evolving modulated filter fx 15:40 - use polypin, a euclidian sequencer, to create euclidian sequences for *closed* hit hats 18:09 - use delay to create dynamic, creative *closed *hihat fx 18:52 - use soundtoys magnetic space echo effect to go even crazier with the closed hats 20:23 - use vocoder with lfo on dry/wet in near audio rate speed on *open hats to fill in the weaker frequncies and create a differing sound per open hat trigger 22:50 - distort the kick a lil for different techno tones 24:31 - passive eq the kick for relational eq shaping for the kick tone to sit right in the mix 26:10 - comp the kick with db160 style compressor 27:08 - use utility device to mono the kick etc 31:05 - use dub delay on pad and shape to hear effect better for subtle rolling dub delay effect on pad 36:37 - use granular samplers as another way to make creative pad sounds just like the seq'd resonantor made this for myself because I reference this video way too much. this and yan cooks videos are changing the way i write music
Thanks! I have a newbie question I was wondering if you'd be kind enough to help me with. At 08:46 he starts playing session but the sample he dropped in midi track with his drone creator rack is not playing, then he clicks something around 08:47 and it is added/the track volume starts to come in? I am trying to follow along but I cannot get the channel with sample and drone creator rack to play. Thanks in advance!
this guy is not only a genius and master at his craft , but the way he laughs and gets excited everytime he reveals a technique to the audience shows how passionate he is about his music and how willing he is to teach people things .. cheers to this man ..
So kind of you Tom to offer your top secrets. Thank you for not being selfish like so many producers who never share anything. We, in the less pro community, appreciate it.
They don't share much because most people are lazy and would just copy their style and their sound, something they've spent years creating. Is that fair? Lol. The producers that share constantly evolve and are more versatile and experimental in their productions.
Alright so a doctor should just kill a few people before doing a heart surgery properly? No he asks for advice... This is what I'm taking it as advice as there are a lot of things in this that are helpful to my music production 🙌
Bah, everybody complaining about how "this is not original enough" or "you should make your own samples!!" should, and hopefully will, realize that they are stuck at the masturbatory phase of making music. Don't make it a competition on who is the purest, what matters is ending up with some great new track! What @tomhades is doing here is showing a few tricks and tools that personally I find amazing, and in so little time the result is really interesting. It's more than I was hoping for
Whatt ??!! That's exactly why all techno sounds the same nowadays. If you cannot make a simple sound yourself, then leave it to the ones who spend time learning ! Sample packs are destroying creativity. Full stop.
@@paparas888 you can take a sample pack and make it sound like nothing before just as much as you can take a thousand $ equipment and make a boring as hell track. Personally I blame the low quality to the lack of any filtering from digital labels and stores: since publishing and selling bad music is free, who cares!
@@paparas888 that´s exactly the kind of speech solo guitarists had about synthesizers. don´t forget that a lot of techno also sounded the same back in the days and even then people were complaining about it. and they will live happily forever complaining about the next generation.
"I thought using loops was cheating, so I programmed my own using samples. I then thought using samples was cheating, so I recorded real drums. I then thought that programming it was cheating, so I learned to play drums for real. I then thought using bought drums was cheating, so I learned to make my own. I then thought using premade skins was cheating, so I killed a goat and skinned it. I then thought that that was cheating too, so I grew my own goat from a baby goat. I also think that is cheating, but I’m not sure where to go from here. I haven’t made any music lately, what with the goat farming and all."
11:29 this is amazing advice. one of the things that seriously makes an improvement in your electronic music is to get "off the grid" a bit. when everything is synced perfect all the time it is nice, but a beautiful thing in techno is when it periodically comes in and out of perfection or something finds its way into the mix.
@Tom Hades, its a pleasure to watch a master at work, i copied your methods for the first 1/4 of this vid and created a beautiful pad sound with those slight changing frequencies, fucking genius!
Wow, I didn't know, how much thought is going into this type of music. Very inspiring way of working with Ableton Live, many thanks for sharing. I will come back and watch it a few times more, to grasp all the tricks :D
One thing to note is that the Roland System 100 sequencer he mentions wasn‘t actually an original Roland module from the 1970s, but a passion project done by a guy in the 2000s, which later was the inspiration for the Intellijel Metropolis sequencer. Later on the same guy founded his own company RYK Modular and now builds a Eurorack version of his 185 Sequencer.
@6:46 Actually the ML-185 m4l device mimics the RYK M185 sequencer. The original sequencer of the System 100 was much simpler.. (the M185 was created by RYK as a DIY hardware sequencer project in 2008) www.defectiverecords.com/m185/index2.html www.defectiverecords.com/m185/M185Documentation.pdf
Yes it is. Lots of great tips. At least it sounds like actual techno compared to other ones I've seen. Definitely someone who's into the scene for real. 2 thumbs up!
Great session. This made max for live look very interesting. I think that vc-160 plugin was from Softube and not from Native Instruments though. thx 4 sharing the knowledge
love Hades! massive inspiration. ofcourse I now have permanent ear fatigue from listening to this particular track so much but i could not give a shit about that :) his teaching here has been key to a massive milestone for me. I have procrastinated on creating which should never have happened in creativity, but trying to hand craft every single nuanced rim/hit/stab so that its always interestnig as he points out, is completely gruelling and soul destroying at times. its like a master has validated cutting a few corners for me and i've progressed loads since lol. I think he unstuck me. Totally have creative flow back cos of this man. What a brother!
A guy who knows what he do and know the tools that he use, simple and efficient! I don´t use to watch techno masterclasses but this one its so interesting!!
That was fun! Sometimes I wish I could just sit in the studio with one of these guys, mouth shut, just watching the process unfold with no real planning. I'd get all hyped from what's coming out of the speakers!
I really appreciate the emphasis on doing what inspires you. Rather than specific techniques and tools, he's telling what he likes and what feels right and different ways to think about getting there. Very organic
Really enjoyed this thanks. One question I have, when making ambient effects like this, what do you do to stop that swallowing up the more dry and rhythmic melodic sequence parts in the mix. I think this is what I struggle with most.
with utility, setting it to left or right is better than setting it to mono because the mono setting will sum the left & right channels which can result in phasing in your kick
this was really cool for 2 reasons: 1. it was very informative and very well explained! 2. it made me feel good about my own productions coz a lot of the tips here are stuff i already use!
How do you get that string effect at 10:09? I don't use ableton so not sure what effects you need. Are the effects working on just one part of a chopped sample?
Tom great lesson supervisor concise and to the point i loved it. One of question what is the name of thee equalizer that you did some notch filters in then
This had some good info, but just as a note, using a Euclidan sequencer like Polypin with 1 step and a 1/16th rate has nothing to do with making a polyrhythm or Euclidean sequencing, it was just being used to create random velocities, which you could also do with Ableton's Velocity midi device
Thanks for having me guys! Hope you enjoy it :)
Tom Hades what where the plugins use in the creation of the melody please mate
Tom Hades, great video, you say you limit yourself with ableton for just the creative process, do you then mix-master in protools or something like that?
This is one of the best tutorial I've seen. So much information in there. Thanks Tom for sharing your knowledge and point blank for sharing this🙏
Hi Tom, thank you for this! It would also be great to hear your thoughts on performing live. Thanks
learned sooo much, Thank You !!
1:58 -use sequencer on chopped synth loop to create unique synth melodies in key
5:24 - use ml 185 (based on system 100 seq) on chopped synth loop to create other melody
6:05 - use ableton pitch device to tune your sequence in key
8:10 - use resonator on percs w/ reverb & modulated filters to create ambient pads (crowd seems to be somewhat perplexed at how seemingly computer generated techno music really is xD)
13:07 - use apulsoft apQualizer modular eq plugin to make creative evolving modulated filter fx
15:40 - use polypin, a euclidian sequencer, to create euclidian sequences for *closed* hit hats
18:09 - use delay to create dynamic, creative *closed *hihat fx
18:52 - use soundtoys magnetic space echo effect to go even crazier with the closed hats
20:23 - use vocoder with lfo on dry/wet in near audio rate speed on *open hats to fill in the weaker frequncies and create a differing sound per open hat trigger
22:50 - distort the kick a lil for different techno tones
24:31 - passive eq the kick for relational eq shaping for the kick tone to sit right in the mix
26:10 - comp the kick with db160 style compressor
27:08 - use utility device to mono the kick etc
31:05 - use dub delay on pad and shape to hear effect better for subtle rolling dub delay effect on pad
36:37 - use granular samplers as another way to make creative pad sounds just like the seq'd resonantor
made this for myself because I reference this video way too much. this and yan cooks videos are changing the way i write music
store.sanhaji-music.com/collections/sample-packs
I'm now referencing to both the info and your reference. Thank you very much for sharing this.
thank you
Thanks! I have a newbie question I was wondering if you'd be kind enough to help me with. At 08:46 he starts playing session but the sample he dropped in midi track with his drone creator rack is not playing, then he clicks something around 08:47 and it is added/the track volume starts to come in?
I am trying to follow along but I cannot get the channel with sample and drone creator rack to play.
Thanks in advance!
@@johnnyyoung8460 I think he plays a key on his keyboard to preview the sound at that moment. later he creates a clip a 9:38.
this guy is not only a genius and master at his craft , but the way he laughs and gets excited everytime he reveals a technique to the audience shows how passionate he is about his music and how willing he is to teach people things .. cheers to this man ..
exactly
This video is legendary.
So kind of you Tom to offer your top secrets. Thank you for not being selfish like so many producers who never share anything. We, in the less pro community, appreciate it.
Truer words never spoken 🙌
They don't share much because most people are lazy and would just copy their style and their sound, something they've spent years creating. Is that fair? Lol. The producers that share constantly evolve and are more versatile and experimental in their productions.
Yes he spent hour or years finding these tricks out. You don’t be selfish and spend more time in the studio.
Alright so a doctor should just kill a few people before doing a heart surgery properly? No he asks for advice... This is what I'm taking it as advice as there are a lot of things in this that are helpful to my music production 🙌
And furthermore you know we're not all young making music and some don't have that much years to spend in the studio so these videos help a lot 🙌
One of the best sessions I've seen, and I've seen quite a lot of tutorials over the years. Thanks for sharing!!
Such a cool dude. Have come back to this over the years, hes very inspiring ;)
In this "short" presentation I learned so much more as in the last 6 month. Thank you for sharing @Tom Hades
Quite probably the best Ableton tutorial I've ever seen. Many thanks for this Tom
Bah, everybody complaining about how "this is not original enough" or "you should make your own samples!!" should, and hopefully will, realize that they are stuck at the masturbatory phase of making music. Don't make it a competition on who is the purest, what matters is ending up with some great new track! What @tomhades is doing here is showing a few tricks and tools that personally I find amazing, and in so little time the result is really interesting. It's more than I was hoping for
Whatt ??!! That's exactly why all techno sounds the same nowadays. If you cannot make a simple sound yourself, then leave it to the ones who spend time learning ! Sample packs are destroying creativity. Full stop.
@@paparas888 you can take a sample pack and make it sound like nothing before just as much as you can take a thousand $ equipment and make a boring as hell track. Personally I blame the low quality to the lack of any filtering from digital labels and stores: since publishing and selling bad music is free, who cares!
Indeed, like if u make 1000000000x decision and still in the end u make it sound how u wanted, use whatever options we have, combiningthem
@@paparas888 that´s exactly the kind of speech solo guitarists had about synthesizers. don´t forget that a lot of techno also sounded the same back in the days and even then people were complaining about it. and they will live happily forever complaining about the next generation.
"I thought using loops was cheating, so I programmed my own using samples. I then thought using samples was cheating, so I recorded real drums. I then thought that programming it was cheating, so I learned to play drums for real. I then thought using bought drums was cheating, so I learned to make my own. I then thought using premade skins was cheating, so I killed a goat and skinned it. I then thought that that was cheating too, so I grew my own goat from a baby goat. I also think that is cheating, but I’m not sure where to go from here. I haven’t made any music lately, what with the goat farming and all."
Great video.
Muchas gracias por la clase Tom!!!!
De nada!
Amazing. Thank you for the knowledge !
Using the Ableton resonator for drones like that was fantastic, such a cool technique.
So kind of you to share and help us Techno producers it is always inspirational to watch and learn how you work.
he explains things really well :D not afraid to share like many others
Tom Hades realy cool stuff... i THANK for... MAX for LIVE 🥰🙏
11:29 this is amazing advice. one of the things that seriously makes an improvement in your electronic music is to get "off the grid" a bit. when everything is synced perfect all the time it is nice, but a beautiful thing in techno is when it periodically comes in and out of perfection or something finds its way into the mix.
Truly one of the best Techno Tutorials ever.
Absolutely incredible video. Thanks!!
This is so satisfying to listen to
@Tom Hades, its a pleasure to watch a master at work, i copied your methods for the first 1/4 of this vid and created a beautiful pad sound with those slight changing frequencies, fucking genius!
Thank you, I learned a lot!
Good stuff..a lot of 'masterclasses' spend 30 minutes mastering kick drums...this was a refreshing change...
What I like is Tom smiling through the whole process. Enjoyment 😊 with experimenting with sounds. Nice, friendly guy.
I loved the use of the Resonator in this.
Short, concise, and to the POINT, thanks @PointBlankMusicSchool!
Great look into production!
This session is gold
Of course he is amazing, he comes from Belgium :) . Thx for sharing your knowledgeTom.
Wow, I didn't know, how much thought is going into this type of music. Very inspiring way of working with Ableton Live, many thanks for sharing. I will come back and watch it a few times more, to grasp all the tricks :D
One thing to note is that the Roland System 100 sequencer he mentions wasn‘t actually an original Roland module from the 1970s, but a passion project done by a guy in the 2000s, which later was the inspiration for the Intellijel Metropolis sequencer. Later on the same guy founded his own company RYK Modular and now builds a Eurorack version of his 185 Sequencer.
@6:46 Actually the ML-185 m4l device mimics the RYK M185 sequencer.
The original sequencer of the System 100 was much simpler..
(the M185 was created by RYK as a DIY hardware sequencer project in 2008)
www.defectiverecords.com/m185/index2.html
www.defectiverecords.com/m185/M185Documentation.pdf
He realy makes music with hearth u can see the happines on his face ..recpect bro
Would be nice if the used samples and other stuff could be listed in the description here...
Thank you Tom ! great tips
This fella is my new hero. Thank you
One of the best how to make techno videos I've seen so far. Thanks PB & TH!
this song is so good. its worth a release.really !!!!
This has changed the way I make music. Much more enjoyable process, just relax and experiment. Great.
such a nice person... hopefully I meet him once ! thank you, learned a lot
so many great things to try out!! thanks a lot Tom!!!
I have never before seen someone revealing themselves as the producer, in front of a live group...amazing! gives so much perspective :)
Very good session, I didn't know this Tom Hades guy but now I'm his fan, I liked his creativity and he is fun. Short and objective video.
That vocoder on the hat with the lfo is actually a pretty cool trick!
Wow this was amazing. Very different from the other tutorials on TH-cam. Learned parts of ableton I never knew even existed
That trick with the resonator.....TO DIE FOR!!! Thanks Tom, I know there's a reason I've been buying your tracks for so many years haha
Great tutorial! Thanks, Tom Hades!
What a great lesson - I learnt so much and managed to get copies of most of the plug-in's - Organic Techno
Pure gold masterclass
Class!
Awesome class! Thanks a lot
Wonderful tutorial! Thanks Tom Hades!
That’s a really cool session! Thanks for putting it out!
Yes it is. Lots of great tips. At least it sounds like actual techno compared to other ones I've seen. Definitely someone who's into the scene for real. 2 thumbs up!
U need a knowledge and experience to understand, appreciate and respect this masterclass. Thanks Tom Hades, amazing job
Thanks, Tom Hades, great sport. :)
Ableton aficionado, great producer and nice guy. This is probably my favourite tutorial to date 👍
Great session. This made max for live look very interesting. I think that vc-160 plugin was from Softube and not from Native Instruments though. thx 4 sharing the knowledge
it is a collab between the two ... but NI is distributing it :)
We love variations 🙏🏼
this is awesome! The problem for me is where to get all those plugins :D
Thank you Tom and Point Blank. This stuff is really great.
Really great session here.
love Hades! massive inspiration. ofcourse I now have permanent ear fatigue from listening to this particular track so much but i could not give a shit about that :) his teaching here has been key to a massive milestone for me. I have procrastinated on creating which should never have happened in creativity, but trying to hand craft every single nuanced rim/hit/stab so that its always interestnig as he points out, is completely gruelling and soul destroying at times. its like a master has validated cutting a few corners for me and i've progressed loads since lol. I think he unstuck me. Totally have creative flow back cos of this man. What a brother!
well actually its not really cutting corners. its being creative and smart in another way.
Thanks!! greetings from Argentina
Incredible demonstration!
A guy who knows what he do and know the tools that he use, simple and efficient!
I don´t use to watch techno masterclasses but this one its so interesting!!
Tom Hades is more of a Wizard of Techno, rather than a producer... such a cool guy I wish I could participate in a private class on-line with him!
@Elusive 1996 His talent makes me say that..what makes you say the contrary?
At the beginning.... is It really polyrhythm? It Looks like polymeter to me....
But i Love this Video!
That was fun! Sometimes I wish I could just sit in the studio with one of these guys, mouth shut, just watching the process unfold with no real planning. I'd get all hyped from what's coming out of the speakers!
Excellent ! Really interesting and in-depth demonstration. Thank you guys
I really appreciate the emphasis on doing what inspires you. Rather than specific techniques and tools, he's telling what he likes and what feels right and different ways to think about getting there. Very organic
Soooo good tutorial! Thank you!
little things make the difference! amazing!
;)
This is great! Always liked Tom Hades music.
I'm about to learn Ableton and want to make this kind of techno.
This will be very useful 🙌
Really enjoyed this thanks. One question I have, when making ambient effects like this, what do you do to stop that swallowing up the more dry and rhythmic melodic sequence parts in the mix. I think this is what I struggle with most.
By adjusting levels, panning, EQing, mid/side processing and arrangement.
Just to name a few.
Some seriously cool production tricks on this.
Thx for sharing your vision, workflow, tips & trics, recommanded plugins! Most inspiring!
with utility, setting it to left or right is better than setting it to mono because the mono setting will sum the left & right channels which can result in phasing in your kick
So humble. Fantastic! :D
8:24 incorrect translation, should be "it takes the root, right?" As in root note.
@@Heden00 lol
Exactly, a Route note would be something to help find directions, not the correct key in music.
Great video Tom! I learned more from this 40 min video than I learned in 5 years on my own...
Some very cool stuff in here! Thanks so much!
Thanks so much for this. Tom hades has a great one in computer music magazine too .
this was really cool for 2 reasons:
1. it was very informative and very well explained!
2. it made me feel good about my own productions coz a lot of the tips here are stuff i already use!
I laughed at loud when he made the joke about the open hi-hat being his "next trick" . Refreshing tutorial here.
Billion thanks tom Hades !!! for your music , and for this class !
Impressive! Thanks a lot, very inspirational
Learned a lot of techniques from this video like using the LFO and slice/sequence method. Thank you Tom!
Tom thank you for these tips. Been having some serious writers block lately. Appreciate you.
I don't to comment on here, but my god, superb. Looking forward to ADE in October.
Man the amount of custom FX/Racks he has built is insane, really like his no nonsense approach just so much great advice here!
Phantastik
How do you get that string effect at 10:09? I don't use ableton so not sure what effects you need. Are the effects working on just one part of a chopped sample?
this is one of the best video I see in really long time really thanks for sharing this for the people of the world :)
alot of good tips and tricks!
Tom great lesson supervisor concise and to the point i loved it. One of question what is the name of thee equalizer that you did some notch filters in then
This had some good info, but just as a note, using a Euclidan sequencer like Polypin with 1 step and a 1/16th rate has nothing to do with making a polyrhythm or Euclidean sequencing, it was just being used to create random velocities, which you could also do with Ableton's Velocity midi device
true ! and very good noticed from you ! :) plenty of options out there, just find the ones you like and the way you like :)
yeah, thanks for mentioning it though, I ended up getting it and it is really good, fun to just hit random until you get an interesting polyrhythm.
Thanks for sharing. Tom, You just made me your fan today.
Great video! Thanks.
what a great guy..