Brother Synth - Nick & DiMA's Story - Fallout 4 & Far Harbor Lore
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Codsworth has more memory space than Nick
Codi Watson possibly or maybe Codsworth has fewer experiences having stayd isolated around Sanctuary.
That’s understandable. Codsworth is prewar.
But this Vault tec rep said codsworth said a year just one sentence so hes just programmed like this
_CLEAR YOUR STORAGE_
So true
Even Synths show more emotion than Preston Garvey...
Not unless you side with the Raiders in Nuka World...
I love how Minuteman in Nuka DLC can finally do something by themselves. In vanilla, every time a radroach want to eat some food from a settlement, they will sned you (the GENERAL) to solve this HUGE problem. But once you join a raider gang - voila, every settlement you attack is now protected by some minuteman soldiers! So it looks like if you want to do something to strenghten minuteman forces, you just have to join a gang! :D
He just called, and he said that a settlement needs your help and gave me the coordinates, I’ll mark the, on your map.
“A settlement is under attack, I’ll mark it in your map”
There another settlement that needs help
this is why nick is my favorite character. He has so much more personality than most, if not all of the companions in fallout 4
phcasper Danse is equally well wriiten imo
There are some companions that have great personalities. Nick and Deacon are personally my favorite up to this point because of how much character they have individually. If you haven't taken Deacon out for a spin, he's fun to have around. He's incredibly sarcastic and lighthearted about everything; probably my favorite voice-line of his to date is, "bullets are expensive... can we just pay you to play dead?". The disguising is pretty cool too, how he'll change his get-up depending on what part of the commonwealth you are in. He's also pretty well written; overall, the synth companions are pretty cool with things, both the noir robotic detective and the gen 3 greaser, and nice to have around.
Piper and Caitlyn are fun to have around and are written well; Macready is okay from what I've experienced. Never really got along with Strong simply because, out of everyone, he's a total moralist with the whole, "no picking locked things, even if you're in the middle of an abandoned building" thing.
Yawyna124 I liked curie. I especially liked how she begins to struggle with her human emotions
phcasper I like Danse, Deacon, Nick, and Hancock
Nick & Hancock are the top two. They’re great.
Out of curiosity, I did some googling and Nick and DiMA have the same voice actor, Stephen Russell. I just find that really satisfying.
argella1300 He also voiced Corvo in Dishonored 2. I thought I recognised DiMAs voice.
And of course Mercer Frey from Skyrim. That bit with Nick in Vault 114 where he unlocks the door for you? Direct reference to the Thieves Guild quest. I like how Bethesda ties that stuff together.
TheRealReTox They're genius', dude.
The German Voice Actor had a Cold, when voicing the extended Dialog for Nick - they sound distincly more different in German
TheRealReTox haha i noticed that too
Fallout 4 really missed the chance of making Kellogg a bigger story element, Afterall, Kellogg is still in Nick's brain.
NotReallyMatt
That one scene with Kellogg talking through Nick was probably just a tiny imprint that vanished right after it happened. I did wish that I could have implanted Kellogg’s hippocampus into a synth though.
I definitely thought that was going somewhere
@Toasty boi so kill nick? orrrrr something way more advanced that literally involves removing a soul from a body without killing the body.
would have been cool to be able to save Kellogg's mind from nick and install him into a synth as a companion. would be interesting to see him get revenge in the institute or something.
I was pretty disappointed that little quest bit didn’t go anywhere in the story
Somebody give Stephen Russell an award. I don't care what it is but his acting is the best in possibly the whole game.
Russell knocks it out of the park in every character he portrays. He's my favourite VA by far.
Holy shit, i just read his wiki. He literally plays the role of almost all robots we see in-game.
He also voices almost half of skyrim
This game had me torn so much. I've always been bothered by artificial intelligence. I went into Fallout 4 assuming I'd want to wipe out the synths, but then I met Nick, and I liked him way more than I expected. Talk about a dilemma.
To be fair, most 3rd gen synths are essentially lab grown and programmed humans without the ability to age or (maybe) reproduce. Nick and DiMA are pretty much the only exceptions among sentient synths in that regard.
i mean Nick isnt really a "Artificial" intelligence since its a copy of a humans consciousness
Nick was equipped with prewar knowledge and the Personality of a Cop, so he is a human in my regard.
Robots like Curie or Codsworth are also useful.
But other Synths are useless Garbage and the Brotherhood can kill 'em all i don't care.
You can still wipe out synths. Nick is in my top 3 favorite companions (along with Cait and MacReady) and I still walk thru Acadia like the Terminator through the police station in the first movie.
@@cryw1092 Gen 3s have their own personality, they can feel emotions and pain, they’re definitely people. Nick and DiMA tho? They’re something more than people, something that a human can’t even be.
love how bethesda used far harbor as a way to expand nicks character.
I love when a voice actor has to basically talk to themselves, because two characters that they voice are talking to each other. I know it's not how the lines are recorded, but I just love imagining one person talking like that.
I find Nick and Hancock to be the most relatable followers in the game. Hancock's heart is in the right place, and he's more than willing to fight for the little guy (as well as go off on a bender with the Sole survivor). Nick is kinda the same way, but more willing to look for a peaceful solution. Plus he totally pulls off the Noire detective look, and comes off as less goody goody than Preston or Piper.
i dumped preston in jail thanks to mods i use and piper well im pretty sure shes still in her house have not been there since i did the quest where i have to talk to her after that never went back to her
@@maxrander0101 project Valkyrie?
@@bescotdude9121 that and outcasts and Remnants they work together to make the game and its ending better in that you can force peace between the factions
Crazy to think that one day Nick if he lives long enough will forget all about the Sole Survivor and their adventures together.
Unless he takes dima's route. Or I could see him getting help from the memory den. He cares about the sole survivor, so I see him making an effort to keep those memories.
Fallout (bethesda) could've sincerely just made a strict campaign on TONS of stuff to do with Nick, he's a really likeable character most fallout 4 players would back me up on that I imagine. There are endless capabilities that Nick Valentine can present in game. Just wish there was more Nick Valentine interaction throughout the game, I understand many may not agree with what I said there though.
Nick is more well written than other characters. I'm disappointed that maccready and maxson have no interaction. There is no way they haven't met before in the capt. waste.
It's so disappointing how they didn't do much with Nick, hell they could have had the original Nick make a cameo in the prologue before vault 111 (like have two different prologues for the sole depending on their gender, showing snippets of their life like they did with the lone wanderer.)
And who's not to say Maxson didn't try to get into Little Lamplight as a squire so the Brotherhood could get an easy passage into the vault? I'm disappointed that Bethesda didn't use those potential ideas x.x
BreylanPlaysGames my fave is Hancock 🤷🏻♀️
In the recording, Nick said "I don't want to hurt you." He wasn't the aggressor. DiMA was surprised to see Nick because he thought Nick was dead. As far as DiMA knew, Ncik was his first (but not last) murder.
In Nick's heart of hearts you say? don't you mean his "heart of parts"? ;)
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@@oxhorn WOW that's funny.
DIMA IS A SYNTH!?!?!?
That's what a synth would say ;)
Can we get 5000 subscribers with videos? Hey! I’ve seen you comment on other videos before! Fancy that!
Wait, you're a robot!? What else have you been hiding from me?
lol you didn't know that (no offence)
Mr. Rant bruh XD it is sarcasm
"The occasional solid object being thrown at me"
*_Why can i relate to this_*
While on the subject on Nick and DiMA and their histories:
I think I already posted this somewhere but I have a personal theory that DiMA is indirectly responsible for Shaun being kidnapped.
My basis for this theory, is how drastically different Gen 3 synths are compared to Gen 1 and Gen 2s - and for that matter Nick, and DiMA.
When we look at Gen 1 and 2 synths, they are undeniably traditional robots. They are a more advanced "humanoid" shaped robots compared to the prewar kinds like Assaultrons or Protectrons.
The difference between Gen 1s and 2s is simply the plastic skin, a seemingly simple upgrade. Almost like a "Next years model" kind of update.
Gen 3s on the otherhand are a much bigger leap. They are made with organic elements, vs the metal and plastic parts of older synths. No longer are they using simple mechanics to emulate what the human body can do, they now have muscles, and bones exactly like a human does. The older models are "Dumb as rocks" as Nick puts it, while the Gen 3s are as intelligent as a human.
Dr. Amari uses your brain like a CPU to help decrypt a chip, with that kind of knowledge it seems possible that a Gen 3's Synth brain may be organic and based off a human as well - Specially if she is able to reprogram a Synth's brain to make them believe they are human. - The Synth component you always find, may be the only traditional mechanical part in a synth, and its used to "reset" the brain.
- I'll also quickly note: If I recall a Terminal stated that the term 'Synth' is rather recent and Gen 2s were often called androids. If you ask me, it would be more accurate to consider Gen 1s and 2s robots or androids since they are closer to those concepts then a "synthetic human".
When we first wander around the Institute we can overhear a scientist complaining about how Gen 1 and 2s are walking into walls, implying that their AI is not really that advanced, and is long due for an upgrade. This makes the creation of Nick and DiMA make a lot of sense. A finalized version of them would be a CPU + AI update on Gen 2 synths - again fitting the "Next Years model" sorta generational upgrade.
However how would one program such a being? We know in our world how difficult it is to create AI, so how can we make this easier? "Can you make an already intelligent independent being?" (Nick), or "Does it have to learn from experience?/Can it learn from experience?"(DiMA).
However... It does seem odd. Half a century passes between DiMA and Nick's escape, and the Institute kidnapping Shaun, yet no update has happened to Gen 2 synths. No attempt to make another prototype. So after 100 years they are still walking into walls, or making simple mistakes.
So how does this make DiMA indirectly responsible for Shaun's kidnapping? Well Its almost like once they escaped the Institute had a shift in how they wanted to design a synth.
I have to wonder: If DiMA and Nick never escaped, would a different kind of Gen 3 synth have come out that would have been an AI update? Then what about a Gen 4? It likely be a fix of a problem from this theoretical Gen 3, just like the previous generations.
It makes sense why the Institute had a major shift. All their years of hard work making these two prototypes just up and vanished.
I think it's likely DiMA would also have deleted any records they had about their research on making Nick. It pained him to see what they were doing with Nick, and he didn't want another Synth going through that.
When all your research is destroyed, you have to start anew, and so new radical ideas like making organic robots can rise in popularity and so starts the research into a new field.
But in order to make these organic robots you need "pure" DNA. - And thats where Shaun comes in.
Sypran : don't forget the diamond city massacre. The synth that went on a rampage was not a gen 3, he was gen 2 with human like skin. The resident of the city found this out very easily by cutting him open. Gen 3 have only the implants in their brains used to program them, gen 3 had all of their knowledge downloaded, which is the only hardware and to get to it you would have to cut the skull open. The gen 2.5 mass murder was the next step up from dima and nick, who were gen 2.4 synths.That synth was a true android and had a major malfunction just like nick and dima. Thank god the institute is not a greedy corporation or that mass murdering android would have been mass produce. That level of research and development would have bankrupt a corporation if they did not sale it.
CryoTechie Geddes
Oh yeah forgot abou that synth.
I always did wonder when exactly that happened, and why it was the only one. - I don't even think the Institute terminals mention it, even as a historical record of "Infiltration Synth model 1, trail no. 1" since its (as far as we are aware) one of the earliest attempts to see if synths can pass off as human.
I dunno if I'd call it a 2.5 then Nick and DiMA 2.4... Its more like they all were prototypes for different concepts. Nick and DiMA being more intelligent, and that one testing "human like" skin. - With combat subroutines "turned off" - however that part malfunctioned.
Makes me wonder if Nick had escaped at the time. Cause if it was after, I wonder if they would have sent a Nick-Like synth that did think it was human to see how well it could fit in.
Sypran
Yes?
DeScruff tldr
I always choose the BOS when im on survival difficulty because I can ride vertiberds
Ryan Swier What about institute relay.
Ryan Swier What do you do with danse?
Jet pack as well
science 4 and armorer 4? that's a lot lol
Andrew R If you don't have those perks by the end of the game, you're doing something wrong
You should do a character profile on DiMA. I know he's not a companion but I think there is enough lore on him to do it and he's unique enough that I think he deserves it.
I honestly love Nick, he's just a grizzled old detective, and he just warms my heart.
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How about a character study of each of the faction leaders and Preston, what kind of personalities they have and how they shape their factions and perceptions of them.
Preston Garvey: Cardboard
SinnerBeta He has. Lol
Danse-Paper
The fact that DiMA is in a relationship with Faraday is just endlessly fascinating and wonderful to me. Here's this intriguing and complicated being, over a century old, thoughts as big as entire servers, and he's got a boyfriend and the boyfriend is just a little guy. Just a little nerdy guy in a lab coat. I love it, as a detail it's so endearing and adds so much to the character.
And then faraday just does *nothing* after Dima’s death
@@Sh1ranu1 I know, it's rubbish. Fallout 4 is full of little dead ends like that, like Hancock's lack of caring about the whole Mayor McDonagh situation.
I had no intention of playing Far Harbor before watching this video. As Nick is one of my favorite companions I now feel compelled to play it to give him a brother.
Nick is like a long lost older brother for DiMA(considering DiMA was made by the institute and nick was constructed using memories from Nick Valentine, Prewar cop.) so technically he’s older than DiMA
I actually don't know why you don't have more subs? You with your great work deserve more. For me you are like the Fallout Wiki...or a scientist in games. I know that sounds much for someone who haven't seen your vids about how settlements work or defensive work but everyone else know exactly what i mean.
Thank you so much for so many help you gave me with all your videos!
If I had to guess, the ending of his Warcraft series probably lost him a lot of subs.
hey man
he apears so regulary in my sidebar, i forgot to sub him!
I enjoy Oxhorn's content but I find his personality rather obnoxious. He tries to push his own morality as fact in some of his videos. It may not be his intention, but boy is his delivery all wrong.
Elizabeth R, I agree, just opinion of his. It does not matter who you are, your own opinions of things will bleed through when doing these kind of videos. If they did not, then the narrator would simply sound robotic and bland. I dont agree with ALL of his opinions, but I respect them as well as any others.
Well done! It was nice to see every option compared to the others. Man... I really love this kind of videos. They open such a nice perspective on things... Could only repeat myself: Well done, sir!
Thanks for watching!
Bethesda did damn good with Valentine. I rarely feel for video game characters, but in the few times I have Nick has been in the mix. Kellogg is very well written too.
Dammit Oxhorn, I was just about to start playing Fallout 4, but then you post another interesting 20 minute video about it I just have to watch first! *xD*
hahah my bad!
***** It's fine, I always enjoy a good lore video! ;3 And these two are favorites of mine, so I really enjoyed this one!
Just run it in the background while you play beats the radio
Dan Skelley Oh I downloaded a mod to mute the radio for live streams! I often play with music playing in the background from my own library.
Dan Skelley so what you're saying is don't pay attention and the realise that you wasted an hour playing fallout 4 and not learnt anything about the game or lore
Somehow, I find this story beautiful. I've never been able to play FO4 because of the specs. of my laptop but Nick has been my favorite character from the game so far and I'm glad we get to know more of his origins. I do hope though that there will be a proof that he is related to the mysterious stranger. Btw, thanks for this lore videos Oxhorn. It's really great for someone like me who can't play the game but still able to learn the lore of it because of your videos.
Vhan Chua you need to I play every fallout and numba 4 is great good storyline and dlcs
FireGod Gamming I've been playing FO:NV before and FO3 now. I'm really planning on buying FO4 especially now that on my playthrough on FO3, I'm already at the part of the story where I'm searching for the synth that came from the commonwealth which makes me want to play FO4 even more. I'm just waiting for the time I'm able to upgrade the ram of my laptop since I only have 4gb of ram, but I'm quite broke at the moment so that's why. Lol. xD
Honestly, nick and dima are most playful with the sole survivor with "sarcastic" dialouge (when on good terms). It's strange how human they are lol
I hope in the 5 years you've been able to get a good enough computer to play. It's a lot of fun and Nick is my favorite lol
"Only relative" - well technicly you are his grandfather :P
Touche!
Not quite. Nick and DiMA's escape from the Institute pre-dates Kellogg recovering Shaun from Vault 111 and using him as genetic material for synth production. Unless there's a major time gap between vanilla FO4 and Far Harbor I'm unaware of, I suppose. But as I understand it, Nick and DiMA were built - and escaped - prior to the events of FO4.
Brad Simpson In that case, does their escape lead to the Institute looking for pre-war human DNA? If so, then Nick and DiMA indirectly saved you from an eternal ice box.
You're not related to the Gen2 or the prototypes?
Curie however isn't even your granddaughter, if she's copying Shauns DNA it make her a direct descendant; like a daughter? Makes it more messed up if you try and get in with her
So DiMA is literally the most human synth despite looking like... That.
Irony, thy name is Bethesda
It's ironic that Nick is the NPC that feels the most human in Fallout 4. He really feels like a real person with real feelings, and I love that he's pretty much the only follower who will be sassy to the main character when the main character is sassy to him. I never chose a sarcastic response to Nick during the Far Harbor questline, though, because he just seemed very vulnerable at that point, like he needed reassurance rather than hearing more jokes.
And I agree about Dima having guilt after leaving nick because if you remember he tells you about how he sat in a cave for two years just sitting until he decided that he wanted to help other synths
That memory puzzle was super annoying...
Suggestion: Do all the Silver Shroud dialog (especially the Mechanist encounter). It's pretty hilarious stuff.
I did that one here: th-cam.com/video/OvbJ9C5UDvw/w-d-xo.html
Thanks! I'm currently doing a playthrough where I just beelined to the Memory Den to get into "Shroud Mode" ASAP, just to find all the fun Shroud dialog. Heck, even NukaWorld has a few comments when you're in costume. The stuff is everywhere. I'm loving it.
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Your videos are getting better and better. Patreon'd.
You rock Dawn! Thanks!
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Wait that was DiMA saying “I don’t want to hurt you” I didn’t know he could even shout 😂😂 (I thought it was Nick at first LOL)
damn that was.....emotional
I used to think I was a sap for these videos because they were fallout related alone but I find myself listening to your writing specifically, so, keep it up!
I personally chose to tell Nick to keep a distance from DIMA, as to me he just seemed dangerous. Nick is an essential character as far as I know, but I didn't want DIMA potentially hurt our chances of making peace between the factions. At the time, not knowing any spoilers, he just flat out sounded untrustworthy. I had a feeling it might cancel out some unique dialogues though. Thankyou for posting this! I always wondered how that decision really affected things
Lol what made him sound untrustworthy
You should do one of these on the BOS' presence in the commonwealth. Like... why they came, what their true goals are, etc. And possibly include in that vid what you think happened to the enclave and why they arent present.
did you play FO3?
I can tell you. The BoS in The Commonwealth came from The Capital Wasteland due to the energy readings Danse, Haylen, and Rhys found. They also seek to destroy all synths, odd that they let you bring Nick on the Prydwen and don't kill him, and to also find any technology that they can use. Also in Fallout 3 the BoS destroy the Enclave leaving only former members to merge into society.
SharkBait19904 Its been so damn long since i played fo3 and i dont have a pc any more so i cant replay it. So, thanks for that summary lol did they try reforming in any if the fo3 dlc? those i never played
Soul Intent No, but Broken Steel is where you destroy them for good.
I love DiMA.
I dunno why but he seems like a really patient person and nick seems like a person who has high morals and wants justice .
YOU WERE MY BROTHER NICK, I LOVED YOU
Fun fact, DiMAs voice actor is the same as Nicks. So Nick is talking to Nick ahehaehae.
Nick: "I can't find my keys, *finds them in the fridge
It really fascinates me.. Before finishing this video I was reminded that my personal conclusion of this dlc and having nick with me the whole time, that Nick and Dima were no "Failed Experiment" as nick exclaims in part of his relationship progression.
They were in fact, a largely successful experiment with one single flaw: Not Enough Memory.
The Institute must've decided "yes we can do this!" and it was at that time that I believe they must've began researching Robobrain technology and implimenting it into other experiments, eventually arriving at the conclosion that they now had a need for actual human DNA. Enter Shawn.
Edit: Stopped watching halfway because I did this whole DLC but not with nick. Im halfway though with nick and I will have to come back to this video to see what you think.
Do you think that Dima would still be nice to Humans? He wouldn't like....Hurt them for no reason right?
He didn't hurt kasumi. He doesn't hurt you. He cares about far harbor and the children.
Acceptance is mutual
As he said in his video, if it furthered his cause he would.
Yep
How about the lore behind the mysterious stranger, and Nicks search and reactions to him.
I like the sacrasm you can use Nick after him seeing DIMA die in front of him
DiMA... One of my favortite characters by far. I had such a hard time deciding what to do with him... I ended up doing his solution just to save more people, but it was bittersweet.
Ultimately DiMA has a "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" and "ends justify the means" type of morality. I made the same choice which was made easier since Tektus was a warmongering cult leader and the Children are a bunch of religious loons, but at least some of them are only misguided. But I fear what DiMA's morality will get him to do in the name of his cause in the future.
If Shaun's DNA was used to make these synths, does that make Nick the survivors grandson?
my opinion is dima was constructed to be an asmr synth. have you heard his voice?!
So did anyone else notice that Nicks voice
Was different in the original game and DLC ?
Extinct Hart yes I did
everytime I enter the dialog camera and get a good look at the models and animations I always think to myself "hmmm what would it be if Bethesda was in charge of the animations/models regarding Mass Effect:Andromeda I mean nick has SO MANY expressions with every single line of dialog I srsly don't even read the subtitles that I have turned on I just look at him :D
Nick > DiMA
Oxhorn, thank you so much for looking into this particular story. I always knew there was so much more to Nick's tale, and DiMA just seems so... sad. My heart goes out to them both.
You know i saw this video and thought "Well that story is pretty common knowledge, what more can i really learn?" but I decided to watch it anyway because i just love your videos, and im glad i did. i had never heard a lot of their brotherly banter, or at least never paid much attention. the one about repairs made me giggle. Another great video Ox, i cant wait to see more.
This is probably my favourite lore video so far! Thanks for sharing. I'll now take nick with me to far harbor on this play through 👍🏼
I think Valentine is my favourite companion in FO4. He's tied up in a bunch of questlines, his skill tree is fairly decent with most points into int and per.
And his character is awesome. The noir detective... with robots. Also he's one of the most human followers in the game, ironically.
Edit: Ironic, given that I tend to side with the Brotherhood more often than not.
Valentine sounds like that jerk in skyrim who tries to flirt with the server in the thalmor embassy soiree.... lol
Rainface Atriarch pretty sure he has the. Same actor
Same actor indeed, lol, so it gets funny.
He was also the voice actor Mercer, the head of the thieves guild in riften.
Speaking of Fallout and Skyrim using the same voice actors, a certain Dunmer in the Grey Quarter sounds a lot like a very infamous Minuteman
It is
I live this whole story you can get because all of it shows you how human Nick really is
Does anyone else realize DiMa is doctor Manhattan
Fun fact is studies show that people tend to congregate around and live near those like them. Asians prefer to live and interact with other asians, whites prefer to live and interact with other whites, etc. We naturally separate ourselves into groups, like oil and water. Now of course, there's nothing wrong with intermixing. Plenty of people do it all the time. It's just one of those little things that make us all different.
One of my favorite videos yet, if not the best. Watched a lot of your videos. (Just getting into far harbor dlc now so going threw the playlist. Great stuff, Ox!
in many ways dima is what the railroad should've aspired to be the railroad only cares about synths whereas dima cares about everyone and anyone
GOD. ♥ I love when my favorite companions have their own "side story"! Thanks for making this video Ox !
I love how Oxhorn takes the lore and explains it in a different way. Reminds me of Vatti Vidya who does Dark Souls Lore.
Synths are my most favourite thing about fallout 4.. It's beautiful to watch them begin to understand themselves and develop in a good way.
Is it just me Dima creapse the living day light out of me 😨
I don't have Far Harbor but I've seen some gameplays and is by far my favorite DLC. Has such a nice story and some points with very touching moments like this story between DiMa and Nick.
Dude I never knew about this with Dima and Nick. Thanks for bringing it to light.
@Strainul Misterios I just figured that was sort of when Dima was getting his memory's back he thought nick was his brother just because they were both synths. I guess I never really pieced it together this way
Awesome video Oxhorn. Nick's probably my most favorite companions to work with, next to Dogmeat and Deacon.
Nick acting like Uncle Ruckus in Dima's memory is priceless 😂
they're brothers alright they have the same hand movement at a dialogue
I've just subscribed - I love how you go so in depth into characters and analyse everything, and you've got such a pleasant and calming demeanour that your videos are just a joy to watch.
I find DiMA really interesting, and I'm so glad they didn't go for the standard "evil twin" trope - While I think what DiMA did is morally awful, his intentions were genuinely good - like you mentioned in the far harbour endings video, its the only way to really ensure peace among the factions on the island, and I enjoyed the genuine moral greyness of it - No matter what option i pick, I never feel like i've done the completely right thing. There's always a bit of dirtiness.
I always have Nick decide what he wants to do - I've never felt it was right to influence him during a period of vulnerability.
Is there enough info to do a video on the Pre-War Nick Valentine? You can find the holotape where nick is ordered to seek treatment for PTSD after Jenny's death, but I also found a terminal there that reveals that Nick's bosses knew she was in danger, and deliberately didn't tell her or Nick in order to not compromise the investigation.
The whole situation is so sad because he was called in from Chicago specifically to aid in the winter case - and during those months he lost his fiance, his sanity by the sound of it, was betrayed by the law and then got nuked.
I honestly think this poses a bigger question than the prospect of synths and humans living together. It touches on if a person is the sum of their experiences or not. Nick is just as much the original human Nick as can be. His exact copy minus the experiences is a completely different person. Imagine 2 black canvases, one has been computer copied to be exactly the same as the Mona Lisa, and the other is left to be painted to whoever comes to pick it up.
DiMA sounds like OX but with a softer voice
Nick is my favorite companion, and this story line just made my game. So nice to revisit it in this video! 💜
i love how valentine and the sole survivor trade verbal blows and your standing doesn't change
I thought I messed up when I didn't take Nick with me to Far Harbor. When I finally realized I needed him and went back, I thought I'd never get the brother dialogue because Dima just didn't address the issue and was ok with that. Nick didn't need the pain. However, when I finished with Tektusynth .... Dima brought it up. And it's too late to get Dina to offer himself to Acadia bc the only way to get Tektus made me promuse to keep the secret.
Anyway, I only posting bc the dialogue -is- there, but I had to finish the main quest to activate it. My Nick didn't lose his brother, the CoA are ok with Tektusynth, and I suppose Far Harbor is fine. Next: I have to take Old Longfellow to the Commonwealth and run some Preston errands to get his affinity. Hopefully.
Thanks Ox. I appreciate your channel and the things you do.
Is there an award for video game voice acting? Stephen Russell should get it
I feel so warm and fuzzy inside now, thanks!
DiMA is one of my favorite characters in Fallout 4. His personality is so wonderful. It's a shame that there's not that much about him. Also, whenever I hear about this DiMA, I think of my Russian uncle, who has the same name.
love the lore videos!!! this is pretty neat since I haven't played far harbor yet
MyDestinyDear Its a great dlc so if you get it i emplore you do do EVERYTHING. Trust me its worth it.
Yeah everything..
Well. We gotta get Nick a few thousand more terabytes of memory.
Think it's interesting to note that what has happened to Nick possibly contributes to Dimas dislike of memory wipes (And possibly Dimas' erased memory subconsciously causing it as well)
the writers of Dima and Nick both are worthy of respect for their well thought out story with compelling dialogue. they made the far harbor DLC worthy of main game. thank you sir oxhorn for the story time I enjoyed it.
I love your videos and how you express theories, thoughts and emotions that the characters go through from multiple angles. Your video are extremely well done and full of lore, passion for the games and interesting real life topics as well. please keep up all the work your doing. I'm usually a fps kinda girl but you made me pick up the fallout4 series again. along with destiny 2, anthem and a few others you made me want to get far harbor just so I could see Nick have someone he can relate to deeper about personal synth things and feelings. I love the story and their interesting positions in their interactive conversations.
I have watched a lot of your videos, because I did not play this until mid 3018, i’ve never tried to respond to any of these videos. This is one I really got to say well done, good analysis, good commentary.
Nicodemus? You slay me, Bethesda. Well, Nick does go back to listen before he judges.
can you talk about the enclave
The Enclave isn't in Fallout 4, and most of his videos are about Fallout 4
at Mango Mango - over the past few weeks here in 2019 Oxhorn has been talking about the enclave in fallout 3.
Sort of. It's with dance, I forgot when though
Aww, DiMA's voice has such a soft tone
Oxhorn. You do make amazing videos. I absolutely love your settlement builds. Especially the lived in ones. You have really inspired my game play
Fabulous coverage of 2 of the more interesting personalities in this game. Thanks for this.
I've been waiting for someone to do a lore on these too because some of it confused me. Thank ox for these vids.
I don’t understand how DiMA would remember Nick if those memories were extracted and stored in those memory files prior to their encounter in Acadia.
One thing I always wondered about Nick the Synth, why the Sam Spade getup? It's not like many people in the post-apocalypse would have a pre-concieved notion of what a private detective is supposed to look like after all. Could it be that human Nick was a Bogart or Film Noir fan, so that when Synth Nick fell into the P.I. role he decided, just as his little joke, to properly look the part? Shame you can't ask him about it since there must be a story there, especially given that the Sole Survivor is one of the very few people on the planet that'd actually get the joke.
I Love Visiting Acadia with Nick just to hear those wholesome Conversations
It makes me sad on how nick is angry