Grab the GN toolkit or modmat on our store! store.gamersnexus.net/products/gamersnexus-tear-down-toolkit Find our RX 5700 XT review here: th-cam.com/video/-SAWtKEIYbw/w-d-xo.html And the AMD R5 3600 review here: th-cam.com/video/7AbNeht4tAE/w-d-xo.html
Try to use a morpheus 2 or arctic accellero 3 to see how the OC improves and also temps! (+ sound) it would be a good video to see the OC capability of Navi with a aftermarket cooler.
Where is the link to the Cooler Master factory video with the vapor chamber footage? I only saw heatpipe footage once. I must have missed the vapor chamber part.
16:23 That looks like it's been brazed on. [Soldering but with more heat and a different interface metal] Brazing Copper to aluminum actually makes a lot of sense. Good thermal transfer through a metal interface and it's fairly robust as you found out.
@@antonhelsgaun the vapor chamber would just be all vapor inside. It's sealed so this wouldn't be a problem as long as it could contain the pressure. Once it was cooled down enough it would function as normal.
@@bradhaines3142 Actually you've got it the wrong way around. Copper's got fantastic thermal conductivity but lower specific heat capacity than aluminium. This is why you typically see the bits directly touching hot parts (CPUs, GPUs) made out of copper so that you can conduct that heat from the hot component quickly, and finstacks are usually aluminium to absorb the thermal energy and dissipate it (actually doesn't make a HUGE amount of difference in terms of dissipation but using aluminium fins give your finstack block higher thermal inertia)
I disagree that ideally undoing the 4 screws around the GPU itself should undo a heatsink. It leaves the entire weight of the heat sink assembly to rest on 4 screws and the core itself. I like that it's spread out a bit. Doesn't need to be 13 screws tho ...
Honestly I prefer the simplicity of the 4 screw take apart. my Evga 2080 I took out the 4 screws and swapped my paste and was back to gaming in no time. I think you would be amazed at what a few bolts can do. Take a look at the amount of bolts that generally hold the engine inside the car and many other applications. To each his own though.
Keep in mind you also need to be careful of how much pressure is applied to the die as well, too much it’ll crack. That’s without mentioning flex from thermal shifting up and down. Also general shifting from being handled by shippers and etc. which it’s elevated by the packaging, but it isn’t eliminated. I agree though it would be nice if it was more spread out but I think a proper way of doing so would be similar to asus strix 20 series card models. It allows for both rigidity while spreading weight and makes it easier for someone to service it at the same time. ( at least in the case of thermalpaste and such)
4 around the core for mounting pressure and + 6 evenly spaced on the back plate for structural support is ideal that way you only have 10 screws to get the cooler off needing to take off IOplates or fans to redo some TIM is garbage design that thankfully goes away if you just water cool the card instead
@@-GameHacKeR- I'm not sure I follow the use of the word shill in the context of your statement. I'm not being nasty or disagreeable just wanting clarification. I'm a slow to uptake kinda plumber.
The vapor chamber is most likely made out of pure copper, for the better thermals, which is very soft and malleable. The pressure from the tools you're using to cut into it is moving and mushing the copper around instead of creating a clean cut. The copper is actually soft enough that you can use a knife to chamfer the edges and cut through to the hollow inside. Also if you'd really like to demonstrate the inside of a vapor chamber, you can heat it up until it pops open, but make sure you're wearing thick gloves and a face mask.
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I love how methodical and scientific you are with all your videos, but occasionally we get the "I wonder what's in here, let's pry it open with a random tool, even if it happens to break" method lol. Always love the videos though, I usually click GN vids first for any major release :D
Product idea: stickers for the mod mat that fit on the GPU section but are specific to individual board layouts. This could help people make sure they remove ALL the necessary screws before prying on a card. Also, if possible in manufacturing, add a 2nd sticky side to the top of the sticker, but ONLY on the spots where the screws go, so that when you place them down they don't roll away.
Cut aluminium and copper with toothed tools like hack saws and multipurpose dropsaw, instead of abrasives like grinding wheels, cut off wheels Also I think that heatsink would be bonded, I'm watching on my phone at work so can't see but if it were brazed the whole thing would deform before you'd get it apart. (I don't think copper and aluminium can be brazed together)
I love how this Card looks, even like the dent. If the cooler wasn't that damn bad I'd buy one when I upgrade but I'll have to get one with a good cooler.
I seriously can't wait to see what developers are able to do with this architecture on the consoles. It's such a massive leap over the HD 7770 that games have had to run on up to this point.
The purpose of the dent is to direct more High Pressure air towards the center of the vapor chamber near the GPU core. You see as the fan spins it builds up pressure on the rear wall because it has no place to go. If that dent wasn't there, most of that air pressure would be released as the fan opens up at the top. So this sort of acts as a controlled diffuser. That said, there was a ton of room for improvements on the inside. a hyberbolic or parabolic shape on the rear end with sound absorbing material with a central focal deading core at 1KHz to 2KHz tuning frequency would have really cut down on a bit of the objectionable blower noise. Similar concepts are used to control backwaves on speakers. And there would have been no decrease in efficiency. -Signed an engineer
I must say that your production quality is par excellent. IDK what camera or monitor you're using for editing, the picture quality is awesome. Even watching it at 240p on my phone looks like I'm watching it a 480p. Keep up with the good work.
Use a blow torch to remove the fins from the baseplate next time. Just put it upside down in a vice and heat the bottom of the baseplate with a torch, the vapor chamber and fins will fall out in a minute or two.
I found that fact that the core seems to be centered on the card fairly interesting. Every GPU I have taken apart, the core is offset down near the PCI connector.
Waterjet cutter should be perfect for chopping up vapor chambers and other parts too. Leaves perfect line, blasted by sand. I'm sure some local shop would do it for you!
When I first saw that cooler I thought someone had dropped it and put a big dent in it or something. I was really confused. I was even more confused when I heard AMD thought they could make a 'quiet' blower cooler.
As long as it doesn't greatly impact cooling performance (and it's a blower, so it's not amazing cooling anyhow) I think it's a clever extra design. Of course, I'd love a Radeon WX blue too, that blue is super cool.
Probably got a machine to do it on all assemblies that go through, in production lines it is easier to leave stuff unchanged than to do stuff that makes sense
I wonder how much better this card would have performed if: > The main fin stack was copper, like some premium options I've seen. I mean, they're using a vapor chamber, why they wedged it in under aluminum fins... > Either extend the main fin stack the length of the card's cavity, or enlarge the baseplate fins into the air channel ala that decorative heatsink in the back. > Mounting pressure!!! > Thermal paste on the die. > Backplate thermal pads. I just see so much potential left on the table in the design of this cooler. It's a blower, so it can only get so good, but between the uninspired fan curve and these design oversights, I just wonder if it could have been "passable" instead of "crap".
I'm fairly sure the heatsink is attached to the baseplate with solder, I remember melting the heatsink off a 9800GTX baseplate when I was trying to replace the shitshow that was my RX480 reference heatsink.
I imagine an actual AMD heatsink would work a lot better since they've not really changed the mounting hardware, whereas the 9800GTX was mounted completely differently, only the spacing was correct. It did sort of work, I didn't check the contact properly though so I very nearly fried the memory controller on the GPU. Noticed what was happening before it got too bad but it knocked any potential memory OC off the table :/
Thermalpads for the backplate really make a difference. They won't increase performance but the fan speed will drop due to the improved heat dissipation. I did it on my Vega56 stock blower, with the under-volt and slight overclock it gets real close to stock liquid cooled Vegas and fan speed does not exceed 49% which means I get to keep my hearing! Quite impressive, every little bit helps so it's a shame not to see heat pads. Also note, get good quality heat pads :p.
The "2 dissimilar metal corrosion" issue should be known to manufactures by now. It is what it is. They are prolly banking on tear downs and mods anyways. Great video as usual.
I have the PowerColor 5700xt and the warranty just went out. Since I'm not considering buying a new card for a while I need to clean it out because my area produces more dust than usual. Thanks for the tear down.
Epoxy would be my guess per the adhesive for securing the vapor chamber to the base plate. Epoxy is quite permanent and requires quite a bit of force to break its hold.
You should measure that mechanical sample and see if a board partner cooler will mate up to it. A Strix RX580 cooler, for example; and see what performance looks like if it will fit. It would be interesting to see. I know it's possible to use the NZXT kit to add an AIO to it, but if an old aftermarket cooler will work, it would be possible to just buy a broken card off ebay for a little money and re-purpose the cooler.
A hacksaw and some elbow grease or a metal bandsaw could probably get you a nice clean cut through that vapor chamber. If you know anyone with a band saw, that should definitely make short work of it. Even to the point that you could do a few cuts around the perimeter and open it up. Like checking a sandwich to make sure there's mustard. Except the sandwich is copper and sharp.
Its funny you mention the 290x because the 5700 XT (anniversary edition) is the replacement for my tired old 8gb 290x lol. I was holding out for 16gb GPU's to become ready but I guess we don't need 16gb's of VRAM lol. Its a 110% improvement by the numbers. Crazy.
its a form of contact adhesive. they use it for building houses and in the auto industry as well. tons of diff types but it is usually a permanent bond like an epoxy but goes on more like a glue you could say.
🤣 the more overworked Steve is the better it gets. If intel releases a lineup of 12 new Grafic cards tomorrow, Steve will check how well they perform while being pulled by his bike going downhill. Really enjoyed this 😂
"Linus is training me" +"And now, Steve, Let it go." -"Urgh..." _struggling_ +"Let it go!" -"I can't, it's too expensive!" +"Do I need to break out Elsa again? Let it goooooo"
the vapour chamber is soldered to the frame.I learned that from disassebling my dead HD6970.You can heat the body to soften the solder that will make it easier to remove but its still destructive cuz you wont be able to put it back on.
Next time, try heating that joint with a heat gun to cause the glue to debond. It looks like superglue which actually works quite well for thermal purposes because the bond thickness can be very thin.
I got an ASUS 5700xt blower 2nd hand for a pretty nice price and while the card performs alright I like to maintain my stuff and decided to clean the cooler. What a mission. The shroud is completely inaccessible without taking the entire gpu apart, after warming it in the oven briefly it came apart alright but still tore 1 thermal pad. And it really needed the cleaning as the fins were mostly blocked with dust, but what should really be simple maintenance was made very difficult through bad design. Seems like planned obsolescence to me.
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You could say AMD is trying to make a dent in the GPU market.
... Is that the exit, stage left I see? I guess the only way out.
Has any of these companies ever thought of just consulting you guys to ask what would make a perfect product?
Try to use a morpheus 2 or arctic accellero 3 to see how the OC improves and also temps! (+ sound) it would be a good video to see the OC capability of Navi with a aftermarket cooler.
NOW WATER-COOL THAT SUCKER AND SEE WHAT IT CAN REALLY DO!
The functional one, that is.
Where is the link to the Cooler Master factory video with the vapor chamber footage? I only saw heatpipe footage once. I must have missed the vapor chamber part.
Laughed so hard hearing the disappointment in your voice when you found no thermal pads. Pure gold
Is that bad?
@@shadowreaper5413 no, having no cooling conductivity is a good thing : ^ )
Why I'm reading with German pronunciation
PSA, just take off the backplate if you buy a reference 5700 XT
Doh!!!!!
It hurt to watch, but I like it, you can still sell it on ebay, slightly used
"New RX 5700 XT. Never turned on!"
Sure. Just describe is as "not good, but not terrible"
Def will never turn on after that .:)....those screwdriver slips tho......Gouge.....:(
Hard to watch is Steve moving his hair away from his face in the same fashion as my daughter. Its so feminine, idk why it triggers me 🤮
@@easley421 why does this matter? Why you gotta be like that?
"Linus is training me, Im his apprentice " please dont good sir.
Soon he will start making stupid thumbmails and almost no info in the videos
Skemooo I literally read this at the same time he said that lol
hey man, long time no speak, you still play evolve?
@@Rem_NL nah i just do blender renders in my freetime now.
linus is a pp head
16:23 That looks like it's been brazed on. [Soldering but with more heat and a different interface metal] Brazing Copper to aluminum actually makes a lot of sense. Good thermal transfer through a metal interface and it's fairly robust as you found out.
@@bradhaines3142 copper also has great heat transfer, actually greater than aluminium i believe
Question is just how they'd braze it without overheating the vapor chamber
@@antonhelsgaun the vapor chamber would just be all vapor inside. It's sealed so this wouldn't be a problem as long as it could contain the pressure. Once it was cooled down enough it would function as normal.
@@antonhelsgaun Depending on the braze sheet alloy, you can "cold" braze with something like Nickel
@@bradhaines3142 Actually you've got it the wrong way around. Copper's got fantastic thermal conductivity but lower specific heat capacity than aluminium. This is why you typically see the bits directly touching hot parts (CPUs, GPUs) made out of copper so that you can conduct that heat from the hot component quickly, and finstacks are usually aluminium to absorb the thermal energy and dissipate it (actually doesn't make a HUGE amount of difference in terms of dissipation but using aluminium fins give your finstack block higher thermal inertia)
3:45 that's a 5.0 V linear voltage regulator: AZ1117CH-5.0TRG1
it's probably power supply stuff around there. that bigger chip is a 6-phase controller
Maybe the regulator is used to bootstrap the main switching supply during the test phase... it's always fascinating to see the pre-production samples!
No one:
Tech Jesus: LET'S DRILL THIS VAPOR CHAMBER!!!!!
Linus: Drop it...
Gamers Nexus: It will be done my lord.
Actual God&Jesus bless everyone everywhere :)
ugh I cant stand linus
When modern art meets cooling design, I present to you the Radeon RX 5700 XT "Amazon shipping gone wrong" 2019 Exhibit.
GTX 1070 "Posti Special" (i.imgur.com/xuU8jeH.jpg) (few years ago)
I disagree that ideally undoing the 4 screws around the GPU itself should undo a heatsink.
It leaves the entire weight of the heat sink assembly to rest on 4 screws and the core itself.
I like that it's spread out a bit.
Doesn't need to be 13 screws tho ...
Honestly I prefer the simplicity of the 4 screw take apart. my Evga 2080 I took out the 4 screws and swapped my paste and was back to gaming in no time. I think you would be amazed at what a few bolts can do. Take a look at the amount of bolts that generally hold the engine inside the car and many other applications. To each his own though.
I would feel the 4 screws would keep the most pressure on the GPU and throwing in some spring washers might help when replacing with thermal paste
Keep in mind you also need to be careful of how much pressure is applied to the die as well, too much it’ll crack. That’s without mentioning flex from thermal shifting up and down. Also general shifting from being handled by shippers and etc. which it’s elevated by the packaging, but it isn’t eliminated. I agree though it would be nice if it was more spread out but I think a proper way of doing so would be similar to asus strix 20 series card models. It allows for both rigidity while spreading weight and makes it easier for someone to service it at the same time. ( at least in the case of thermalpaste and such)
4 around the core for mounting pressure and + 6 evenly spaced on the back plate for structural support is ideal that way you only have 10 screws to get the cooler off needing to take off IOplates or fans to redo some TIM is garbage design that thankfully goes away if you just water cool the card instead
Steve, you're having way too much fun destroying that mechanical sample. I'm not sure AMD intended to amuse you quite this much, heh.
Oh their employees do get a good laugh. But buildzoid makes em sweat.
That's because he's a member of Nvidia's Focus Group. shill
@@-GameHacKeR- I'm not sure I follow the use of the word shill in the context of your statement. I'm not being nasty or disagreeable just wanting clarification. I'm a slow to uptake kinda plumber.
how do these guys not have 1 mil subs yet. All these videos are so in-depth and have sooo much effort put into the editing and research.
The vapor chamber is most likely made out of pure copper, for the better thermals, which is very soft and malleable. The pressure from the tools you're using to cut into it is moving and mushing the copper around instead of creating a clean cut. The copper is actually soft enough that you can use a knife to chamfer the edges and cut through to the hollow inside. Also if you'd really like to demonstrate the inside of a vapor chamber, you can heat it up until it pops open, but make sure you're wearing thick gloves and a face mask.
Very disappointed in the lack of zipptying Noctuas on that bad B, and going all out.
1:50 HA! Just throwing a small Linus burn in there.
ha ha ... ROASTED
He did drop the fan onto the psb at 14:10 XD
Does anyone have a count of how much of Intel and nVidia and others’ money Linus has wasted by breaking things?
The main reason I love GN is their thoroughness and impartiality. I love you guys. When you get more than a million subs, please remember your core beliefs, never give into scummy practices and always maintain this superb analytical approach.
Never go full Linus.
They’ll sell out just like everyone else does. Watch it happen.
I used to repair PCs and I would have loved to have had a tool kit like you are advertising. Thanks for the tear-down.
I love how methodical and scientific you are with all your videos, but occasionally we get the "I wonder what's in here, let's pry it open with a random tool, even if it happens to break" method lol.
Always love the videos though, I usually click GN vids first for any major release :D
Well, that's science for you, it's called an experiment
Sometimes science is done via brute force. lol
"I love how methodical and scientific you are with all your videos" - 20:50
Product idea: stickers for the mod mat that fit on the GPU section but are specific to individual board layouts. This could help people make sure they remove ALL the necessary screws before prying on a card. Also, if possible in manufacturing, add a 2nd sticky side to the top of the sticker, but ONLY on the spots where the screws go, so that when you place them down they don't roll away.
Truly therapeutic to leave a stressful day of work and watch Steve tear down a 5700xt
Cut aluminium and copper with toothed tools like hack saws and multipurpose dropsaw, instead of abrasives like grinding wheels, cut off wheels
Also I think that heatsink would be bonded, I'm watching on my phone at work so can't see but if it were brazed the whole thing would deform before you'd get it apart. (I don't think copper and aluminium can be brazed together)
I love how this Card looks, even like the dent. If the cooler wasn't that damn bad I'd buy one when I upgrade but I'll have to get one with a good cooler.
I seriously can't wait to see what developers are able to do with this architecture on the consoles. It's such a massive leap over the HD 7770 that games have had to run on up to this point.
I think the design of the XT looks GREAT. Like I WANT that thing lol.
I'm glad that that drill bit ended up being more than just a memento for the Cooler Master Q500L mod video.
To be fair,... the card does look a bit like Linus had something to do with packaging.
The purpose of the dent is to direct more High Pressure air towards the center of the vapor chamber near the GPU core. You see as the fan spins it builds up pressure on the rear wall because it has no place to go. If that dent wasn't there, most of that air pressure would be released as the fan opens up at the top. So this sort of acts as a controlled diffuser.
That said, there was a ton of room for improvements on the inside. a hyberbolic or parabolic shape on the rear end with sound absorbing material with a central focal deading core at 1KHz to 2KHz tuning frequency would have really cut down on a bit of the objectionable blower noise. Similar concepts are used to control backwaves on speakers. And there would have been no decrease in efficiency.
-Signed an engineer
I must say that your production quality is par excellent. IDK what camera or monitor you're using for editing, the picture quality is awesome. Even watching it at 240p on my phone looks like I'm watching it a 480p. Keep up with the good work.
THANK YOU Steve for trying to fix that useless dent. I know a few body shops that could use a guy like you! 🤣
Hammer in video card review :D
You guys are much better than LTT. Thank you Steve, for your honest and quality content.
Looking forward to more of your content sir. I know it couldn't have been easy to pump out all this content so quickly, but I am loving it all.
Use a blow torch to remove the fins from the baseplate next time. Just put it upside down in a vice and heat the bottom of the baseplate with a torch, the vapor chamber and fins will fall out in a minute or two.
or the vapor chamber will explode
@@antonhelsgaun Either way, it'll be exciting!
And blow up the vapor chamber lol.
I found that fact that the core seems to be centered on the card fairly interesting. Every GPU I have taken apart, the core is offset down near the PCI connector.
Waterjet cutter should be perfect for chopping up vapor chambers and other parts too. Leaves perfect line, blasted by sand. I'm sure some local shop would do it for you!
When I first saw that cooler I thought someone had dropped it and put a big dent in it or something. I was really confused. I was even more confused when I heard AMD thought they could make a 'quiet' blower cooler.
You really need to have more b-roll of your kitty like you did at the end.
Gimme dat sweet PCB content
20:37 this is why I watch GN. Thank you tech jesus.
like those teardowns, same as the PCB analysis to come
I really like the bend that the 5700xt has. Idk why seems weird but i really dig it.
As long as it doesn't greatly impact cooling performance (and it's a blower, so it's not amazing cooling anyhow) I think it's a clever extra design. Of course, I'd love a Radeon WX blue too, that blue is super cool.
@@johnbuscher I actually think it is to help cooling. I read somewhere that it focuses the air internally or something.
Did they put a warranty seal on non functional sample?
Probably got a machine to do it on all assemblies that go through, in production lines it is easier to leave stuff unchanged than to do stuff that makes sense
If it's a sample of the final construction, then all elements that will be on the actual product should be present, even the warranty seal.
Why all gpus are coming blower style ?
@@timserious7678 it's cheaper is one of the big reasons. That and it makes the aib cards look a lot better.
@@timserious7678 AMD don't want to piss off their AIB partners by shipping a better cooling solution. They are very reliant on AIB sales.
My HD7970 still has one of those "hot surface" stickers. It needs it too I heated my whole upstairs last winter just by folding on it.
Big koodos to AMD for sending a mechanical sample. That's actually pretty awesome
I wonder how much better this card would have performed if:
> The main fin stack was copper, like some premium options I've seen. I mean, they're using a vapor chamber, why they wedged it in under aluminum fins...
> Either extend the main fin stack the length of the card's cavity, or enlarge the baseplate fins into the air channel ala that decorative heatsink in the back.
> Mounting pressure!!!
> Thermal paste on the die.
> Backplate thermal pads.
I just see so much potential left on the table in the design of this cooler.
It's a blower, so it can only get so good, but between the uninspired fan curve and these design oversights, I just wonder if it could have been "passable" instead of "crap".
Looks like the vapor chamber is soldered to me. Glad to see it.
not a perfect soldering, but I bet it's better than 100% thermal pad coverage... and it's basically permanent, so no maintenance.
I'm fairly sure the heatsink is attached to the baseplate with solder, I remember melting the heatsink off a 9800GTX baseplate when I was trying to replace the shitshow that was my RX480 reference heatsink.
Rip lil 480
Did it work?
Wanted to do the same and replace the stock aluminium heatsink with the one of my old HD6790 cooler i had laying around for years...
I imagine an actual AMD heatsink would work a lot better since they've not really changed the mounting hardware, whereas the 9800GTX was mounted completely differently, only the spacing was correct.
It did sort of work, I didn't check the contact properly though so I very nearly fried the memory controller on the GPU. Noticed what was happening before it got too bad but it knocked any potential memory OC off the table :/
You can't solder aluminum.
Thermalpads for the backplate really make a difference. They won't increase performance but the fan speed will drop due to the improved heat dissipation. I did it on my Vega56 stock blower, with the under-volt and slight overclock it gets real close to stock liquid cooled Vegas and fan speed does not exceed 49% which means I get to keep my hearing! Quite impressive, every little bit helps so it's a shame not to see heat pads. Also note, get good quality heat pads :p.
What thickness thermal pads do you use please?
The "2 dissimilar metal corrosion" issue should be known to manufactures by now. It is what it is. They are prolly banking on tear downs and mods anyways. Great video as usual.
Spoiler: there's Vapour in the chamber; and maybe some glue xD
And that's when Steve broke up with his significant other.
Wait, stop putting me into the damn chamber
for those with F- in materials science, the aluminum part was attached with thermal epoxy which is common with motherboard mounted heat sinks as well
I highly approve the use of cat minions to increase production value!
Omg Steve!
This is like a snuff tech video!
You should have seen my face when you used a screwdriver to separate the vapor chamber.
Much needed info on this card !! thanks to your comprehensive explanation i now know i have to wait for the custom models.
Smashing out the dent finally made me subscribe.
I have the PowerColor 5700xt and the warranty just went out. Since I'm not considering buying a new card for a while I need to clean it out because my area produces more dust than usual. Thanks for the tear down.
*drops GPU fan*
*drops GPU heatsink*
*drops tool in the background*
Linus, you got yourself some competition
Epoxy would be my guess per the adhesive for securing the vapor chamber to the base plate. Epoxy is quite permanent and requires quite a bit of force to break its hold.
You could use a torch on the exposed residue on the chassis and see if it burns (epoxy) or melts (solder/braise material)
A like has been given, can always count on gamers nexus willing to break the latest shit, everytime!
You should measure that mechanical sample and see if a board partner cooler will mate up to it. A Strix RX580 cooler, for example; and see what performance looks like if it will fit. It would be interesting to see. I know it's possible to use the NZXT kit to add an AIO to it, but if an old aftermarket cooler will work, it would be possible to just buy a broken card off ebay for a little money and re-purpose the cooler.
Maybe its about time, for a refresh of the staff, in the heatsink department at AMD.
You can pinpoint the exact moment his heart is crushed in his voice upon the discovery of the lack of thermal pad
A hacksaw and some elbow grease or a metal bandsaw could probably get you a nice clean cut through that vapor chamber. If you know anyone with a band saw, that should definitely make short work of it. Even to the point that you could do a few cuts around the perimeter and open it up. Like checking a sandwich to make sure there's mustard. Except the sandwich is copper and sharp.
Love how it's straight to the angle grinder, did you try to use hot air to see if you could break the seal?
You buy a new toy to a kid, he plays with the box
Give a new card to Steve, he plays with the mechanical sample
Bonus points for being a simple tare down.
That RTX tare down was a bodge.
Its funny you mention the 290x because the 5700 XT (anniversary edition) is the replacement for my tired old 8gb 290x lol. I was holding out for 16gb GPU's to become ready but I guess we don't need 16gb's of VRAM lol. Its a 110% improvement by the numbers. Crazy.
21:18 Linus just casually telekinetically dropping stuff from the wall
Education for the next generation! GN you guys are computer technician saints! lol
Turning into a bit of a tear-up towards the end there :D
Looking forward to the hybrid cooling mod video :) definately interested to know if any commercial products will work
Love the crunching and popping sounds of curiosity meeting opportunity.
Dont think Ive ever seen parts of a graphics card pried apart before
Steve Test the dented Original Case thermals versus Gamernexused version!
its a form of contact adhesive. they use it for building houses and in the auto industry as well. tons of diff types but it is usually a permanent bond like an epoxy but goes on more like a glue you could say.
i bought the anniversary edition and I love it. I like the curve in the card too.
Love my GN Toolkit, folks. #2/50 FTW!
🤣 the more overworked Steve is the better it gets. If intel releases a lineup of 12 new Grafic cards tomorrow, Steve will check how well they perform while being pulled by his bike going downhill. Really enjoyed this 😂
Damnit Steve, take a damn holiday!!!!!
I think pulling apart the heatsink was the exact intended use for the mechanical sample
You made it functional, in other form
Well that came off really easy. Good job AMD.
you fracked it good man. Kudos
Its bonded together with liquid metal. Its like a metal glue.
"Linus is training me"
+"And now, Steve, Let it go."
-"Urgh..." _struggling_
+"Let it go!"
-"I can't, it's too expensive!"
+"Do I need to break out Elsa again? Let it goooooo"
I'd glad it comes pre-dented
Steve, I think the GN toolkit 2.0 version needs a BFH for Radeon "undenting". That made my day.
Great way to promote your tool kit showing professional inspection by cat.
Really sad that a competitive card will probably end up being 50-100$ more expensive in third party versions making it lose any advantage it had.
nice of amd to send u a mechanical model
instead of cutting around the edges they just drilled straight to vapor chamber huh, true savages
the vapour chamber is soldered to the frame.I learned that from disassebling my dead HD6970.You can heat the body to soften the solder that will make it easier to remove but its still destructive cuz you wont be able to put it back on.
Sweet, hybrid it GN!
When you see a drill, hammer, and gpu in a thumbnail yeah yeah it’s a Gamers Nexus video
you need to find a machine shop with a water jet cutter, that will go through like butter!
20:40 this right here.
thank you for fixing it.
Next time, try heating that joint with a heat gun to cause the glue to debond. It looks like superglue which actually works quite well for thermal purposes because the bond thickness can be very thin.
14:07 Drops the fan like a champ
Good news is if you drop it, you can say the additional dent was part of the design
I got an ASUS 5700xt blower 2nd hand for a pretty nice price and while the card performs alright I like to maintain my stuff and decided to clean the cooler. What a mission. The shroud is completely inaccessible without taking the entire gpu apart, after warming it in the oven briefly it came apart alright but still tore 1 thermal pad. And it really needed the cleaning as the fins were mostly blocked with dust, but what should really be simple maintenance was made very difficult through bad design. Seems like planned obsolescence to me.
I can't wait for Buildzoid to rip it apart.