Right....but it will cost enough that it doesn't make sense anymore. I haven't even watched the video yet, but they sell a lot of 7.62 uppers, they aren't going to say "no, not worth it, don't buy them" however, me and alot of others built there 7.62 ars because we could get 40 rounds for $9 or less. The whole point was essentially Russian surplus. "Tul ammo, bear, wolf, etc. If 7.62 starts to approach the price of low end 300 blk.....it doesn't make sense anymore, period. (As in doesn't make sense to buy or build a NEW gun that takes that chambering)
@@neroaugustus5378 I have to disagree, the 762x39 round is a very good round, and in my opinion worth paying more for if it comes down to that, or worth paying more for over replacing the upper I have for a caliber I didn't want to begin with. I personally didn't get a 762 upper for to take advantage of cheaper ammo, since my next build was a 50 Beowulf and lord knows that ammo is at a premium, but its fun to shoot.
@@kaylachapman4469 I don't think so, PSA is generally pretty budget friendly on they stuff they make, their goal was to keep a supply of less expensive ammo, 762x39 is readily available now in brand name brass case but you will pay a price for it, its usually in line with better hunting ammo. I bought some Winchester game point in 762x39 and if I recall it was close to 17 a box. its been 2 years now and haven't had the want to shoot that pricey stuff
that’s the idea we go out panic buy making it look like the manufacturers are low on product and demand so high they have the justification to raise the prices. then when the buying slows down they keep the same price slow down production until we panic buy what’s on the shelves then they put out some and raise the price again.
Hannity was just talking about the price of ammo. He mentioned how they are sending all the ammo , or a good chunk of it, over to Ukraine. Meanwhile, most of the ammo manufacturers have been swallowed up by the large companies so there is only 4 left in the US creating a monopoly like environment. May be a good startup business if you are willing to sell at reduced prices.
@@petejurgaitis4197 This is exactly what the guy at my local range was saying when I asked wtf happened to all the 7.62x39 all of the sudden. He didn't mention Hannity but basically his response was Ukraine.
@@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917 Well that and the fact that our regime banned Russian ammo imports so any Tula/Wolf you see for sale was from the last contract signed, and no more import contracts can happen....probably for good even though it's supposed to be temporary (so was the China firearm import ban....which still stands)
5.45 is not a "successor" to the 7.62x39. AK'S manufactured in the US, or fr the US market, can be found in a variety of sizes; however, they're all 7.62x39 for thr rest of the world. Where they are primarily used for target shooting in the US, where a lethal round isn't so necessary, they are primarily a combat weapon in the rest of the world, where a "killing" round is necessary. A 5.45/.223 is a "fat" .22, and shooting an enemy with layers of clothing, gear vests, etc. More often than not wounds them. The object in combat is to kill the enemy so he can't kll you. 7.62x39 is very capable of doing that !!
There was a local gun shop near my house that sold 40 round boxes of Tula for only $5.99 each all the way up to early 2020. I should of bought a plastic swimming pool sized amount of ammo from them. I used to be in the mindset of only buy ammo as I need it and there are so many AKs and SKSs out there that 7.62x39 will be cheap forever. Now those mindsets have cost me a lot of extra money.
@@kellyharbeson18 Yeah it's dirty, not accurate, and more malfunction prone but hey it's cheap and as long as your just doing some plinking and don't really care about super tight groups then it's fine. I have noticed that the Tula 7.62x39 in the past five years has been more reliable and consistent in terms of power (not that it matters now).
@@kellyharbeson18 I bought a bunch when the whole Russian ammo ban was announced. It seems like it's drying up now but Sterling is putting some out there now but they make horrible 9mm ammo. There's also some new stuff coming out of eastern Europe and central Asia.
Yeah........I bought a bunch under the same premise, ended up needing to borrow some money from my dad and gave him a 7.62 AR and a thousand rounds as collateral. I later sold him a 10.5 inch, with a thousand rounds. Got back on my feet. Paid him back, and bought the 10.5 back.....but the ammo was unspokenly unpresent and was just like "word". I haven't said anything because he doesn't have a gun to shoot it so it's like.....ok, when the shit hits the fan, your safe or my safe, whatever. It's gonna feed my guns. But still....... everytime I look in my ammo cupboard Id really like to see those 2000 rds in there. I'm probably gonna switch over to 300 blk here in the next year and start reloading for it. It didn't make sense to me three years ago, but now, meah.
@neroaugustus5378 shoot man, father or not that's a shit ton of ammo you should definitely say something maybe he just forgot. And if it's fine either way to you, why not keep it in your own collection rather than trust someone else with it? It's yours
BCA has done great things for the firearms industry. I love their products they are super affordable and reliable. Always something new in the works too. Thanks BCA!!
I bought 18 boxes Winchester white box (20 cartridges) for 14.99 at Sportsman’s Warehouse in northern Cali. Have not shot it yet. Also bought Sellior & Bellot for $18 a box. Are these reasonable prices?
I must say I have purchased to 762 by 39 uppers from Bear Creek Arsenal they shoot phenomenally extremely accurate and I usually shoot out to two hundred yards normal but I have shot pigs at 4 to 500 yards with this Bear Creek Upper and the 762 by 39 thank you BCA
Where I live I keep getting lots of Russian commercial 7.62 hollow point from the 90s made for hunting. That seems to be the cheapest non corrosive ammo I can find.
It's so damn expensive to shoot nowadays 3 years ago I used to by 1000 7.62x39 or 1000 223. Tula or wolf For only $187 shipped from brownells those days are long gone
what’s them and PSA i notice how they change some of their ammo prices. example PMC on their website says was $21 for a box of 20 rounds and now being sold for $17.14 for the same box. funny because most stores i have been and website i buy from sell it for $15-16 each box. notice how it was $21 and now $17 but everyone else is still selling for $15-16. your so tired of expensive ammo you notice that drop from $21 to $17 and think your getting a good deal but really paying more than the normal price.
I see an absolute ton of people talking about the side charger. They are amazing. BUT, one thing I learned; the idea you have for the side charger still doesn't come to what your expecting because you have to either break firing grip, or reach over the top with the awkward Ak charge. For a while, I was cutting a slot in the left side of my receivers, drilling and tapping the hole, and moving the charging handle to the left side. This combined with a bad lever altered the manual of arms with an AR into something Intuitive. I manipulate the bolt with firing hand in the grip, both to lock it to the rear, and to drop it. The lever sits right where you index you finger when your displaying "trigger control". Bang, bang bang, click: instead of that awkward, break your grip, hold in the bolt catch with left, while bracing the gun against.... something....and charging from the rear, or the first part the same, and reaching over the top of the gun, all I have to do when that happens is drop mag, push up with my trigger finger, and pull the bolt to the rear simultaneously with my left on the left side, smack mag against gun, reinsert, push up with triger finger, bang bang bang. It SO much more intuitive. Anyways, the point of the comment is to say that bear creek in the last year or two has come out with left side charging right side eject uppers......now literally all you have to do is buy a b.a.d. lever (battery assist device) (piece of advice, I bed mine down with jb weld to essentially make one solid piece from the bolt catch and the bad lever, otherwise, it can shift when your really torquing on it and it bugs me. I just filled it with jb, reassembled, and wiped away the excess and let it cure. Apparently they sell one piece bolt catch's with bad lever now as well, might be a better idea) daaaamn long ass comment, my bad.
If you are smart and saw the writing on the wall at least 4 years ago & you already stocked up on 7.62x39, 5.45x39, 5.56x45, 7.62x51, 7.62x63 & 7.62x54r ages ago and have been simply sitting on it for some years now. If not, better jump on whatever you can get your hands on currently and stock up.
The people who bought 7.62X39 years ago for $4.50 to $5 were very smart. There is plenty of it today from Arsenal of Bulgaria, GO branded. But even when PSA spins up their AK 47-74 and 54R production, I don't see 7.62X39 getting below 38 cents per round shipped. It might be scarce in stores, but you can always get it online for 40 cpr or less. I don't expect this to fluctuate much in the next few years. Arsenal BG is a military contractor. They can crank out as much as is needed. The same goes for Igman and PPU.
I've been buying the Eastern European manufactured Belom brand. NATO spec ammo in most calibers. Clean burning. Reloadable. Consistent high velocity in 7.62x39. I'm paying about 50¢ a round when I catch it on sale. I picked up 1000 rounds of S&B PSP hunting ammo 7.62X39 last week for 60¢ a round.
I did the same...really like that Belom ammo....bought a thousand rounds....I have a Bulgarian AK47...a Norinco SKS....a 16 inch AR and a 10.5 AR...all in 7.62x39. I also bought some PPU PSP soft point as well...I have some steel cased Wolf ammo as sort of a "last resort" stash...but I would only shoot it out of my AK or SKS.
Stop buying ammo...sit on what you have for a year or so and let supply catch up to and exceed demand. Everyone keeps saying "buy it now before 'X' happens..." Just making the problem even worse.
The problem with "if everybody just does X" game is you're playing prisoners dilemma with a million or more people. Just in case you thought the prisoner's dilemma with 2 people was bad enough.
7.62 uppers have a huge tendency to break extractors. Any company that sells 7.62 bolts will have this issue. I went 300blk and its meant to use standard 5.56 equipment. In the end I just bought and AK cus its massively cheaper and you can get more range time, then converting and AR (Jan 2023)
Not so sure it’s cheaper (buying AK) as ARs are dropping in price and AKs increasing, if you have spare parts, though DuraMags are harder to find and not as cheap as PMags. Re: spare AR 39 parts: extractors and enhanced firing pins aren’t hard to find and easy to replace but finding a more robust bolt that fits 7.62 x 39 AR is a bit harder and a bit more expensive than a modified 5.56 bolt, which is what most mfgs sell. RTB has fair # of 7.62 x 39 parts if can’t find from BCA.
I was reading your Google reviews you only had two point three stars with a lot of customer complaints give the impression people are better off just saving the extra to something and getting something best proven and reliable
7.62x39 is not something I stock since I own AR’s but PSA has something close and modern (PS47 I think?). It’s a very good round and that caliber in a modern platform is ideal for me. Regardless of the price, I think it would be a good idea to join the 7.62x39 community.
I'm never tried 7.62x39 in an AR platform but love it in AKs. I'd like a BCA side charging upper chambered in it. Having to buy the mags extra is the turn off, but some other calibers like to run mags made for them best. Even if that caliber fits in a 223 mag. I may try one sometime. I'm still interested in the 350 legend tho also.
I have a 7.5 Gen 2 7.62 side charging upper on cmmg lower with binary trigger a c products 28 Rd mag and I absolutely love it. Plus I don't feel as bad now while mag dumping in binary mode as I did in 5.56.
Barnaul 7.62x39mm Ammo 123 Grain FMJ Lacquer Coated Steel Case 700 Rounds in Sealed Tin and Belom Tactical 7.62x39mm Ammo 123 Grain Full Metal Jacket-Brass Case of 480 are avaiable
I can get a box of Tula 762 for 9.99 the box of Tula 223 cost me $14.99. Plus it's easy enough for them to import the ammo from a country that doesn't have a ban on it. I'm willing to bet we'll see a shortage of 223 again before we see the 762 go anywhere.
When the Russian import ban was first made known…I started buying the steel cased European non corrosive 7.62x39 as much as possible (happy to say it’s stacked pretty deep and the funny thing is that at that time, I didn’t even own a rifle chambered in the caliber)…then I ordered two BCA 16” Gen 2 side charging uppers (one for me and one for my brother…excellent uppers 👍👍👍) and bought a myself a Ruger American Ranch in 7.62X39 at a good price from a local FFL dealer who had one a customer had requested but backed out of his order for the fear of the upcoming ammo ban ??? 🙄🙄🙄…another remedy to insure a steady source of 7.62X39 was to stock up on reloadable brass ammo from NORMA and BELOM by utilizing free shipping and special offers from both online sources and my local Rural King farm store (I’m a reloader and bullet caster/powder coater) even though the initial cost was somewhat higher for the reloadable brass, the option to having it for a reloadable source of ammunition out weighed that cost 😊…7.62X39 reloadable brass ammunition is pretty much out of stock at NORMA but BELOM still pops up from time to time from Global Ordinance and if you have a Rural King in your area it’s worth checking into (they sometimes even have TULA steel in stock) 👍👍👍
But Russia isn’t the only manufacturer of cheap steel cased 7.62x39, cause all the satellite nations of the former Soviet Union also had ammo making capabilities. Serbia, Ukraine (when not at war) Romania all have ability to manufacture ammo. Plus, if Tula or anyone like that wants to, they could send the tooling to another country, and manufacture there. Wouldn’t be Russian made anymore.
"outside of the AR" key words there...most people are thinking AR vs AK...AR ammo is now cheaper. "what do you have to lose?" being stuck with a gun that you cannot shoot because all US made AK ammo is over 1$ a round.
35cents per round IN BULK, with free shipping. You add shipping on smaller orders and you're looking at even more. Local gun shops are at more than 50cents per round.... I'm still kicking myself for not starting a business making reliable, steel-cased 7.62 ammo here in the states 10 years ago. We had a business plan and everything set up, just didn't have the inital investment/investors to start it up.....
got the rear charging handle 16". the BELOM gave consistent moa or less 5 round groups off sandbags at 50 yards. Am Dying to get the rig out to the 100 and 200. That means 1/2 inch or less groups at 50 yards. the steel case soft point ammo gave me about 1.5 moa, very happy. For those who question the 7.62x39 for hunting, I spent hours researching REAL ballistics acquired by chronograph on youtube. Seems like days of it. Transcribed the manufacturer and bullet weight along with the average MV. Same for the 300 hammer and the 30-30, No, I am not going to even try to post the pages of information and reference information. Feel free to do your own search and investigation. Bottom line, barnaul is the hottest at about 2550 from a 16 inch bbl/125gr sp. The cartridge is Very close to the 30-30 out of a 20 inch barrel and the 300 hammer. Hours actually was spread out over a couple of weeks. A couple of hours a day. I did not want to come to a conclusion until I found youtube posts that were younger than a year old. Get one, realize that if you shoot it like a 22lr semi auto the need to replace that extractor increases. Four of my hunting buddies now have semi auto and bolt guns in this cartridge and they are Very happy.
BELOM is GTG (even if you don’t reload, still chase down and recover your brass…it’s easy to sell to another shooter who does 😎)…also keep an eye out for special offers from NORMA and if you have a Rural King farm store in your vicinity, they often have BELOM on their shelves as well as Russian steel stuff (for now)
I for now am regulating my 7.62 AR15 upper to training. Premature extractor breakage seems to be given for AR15 bolts set up to handle 7.62x39. There was an internet claim that Young manufacturing bolts have a superior extractor. I will have to test that out. For now for self defense the 300 blackout chambered AR is more reliable than is the 7.62x39 AR15 upper. A broken extract make an AR good for just one shot. PSA announces plans to make steel case russian calibers. No mention of pricing, but if the steel case is boxer primed it may be reloadable. ''McCallum said in his post that PSA had indeed been working on building their own steel-cased ammunition production facility. They planned to start churning out Russian calibers first, including 5.45×39, which some combloc fans worried would disappear from shelves completely in the US. PSA’s decision to make these calibers wasn’t directly related to the Russian ammo ban, though. McCallum said in his post that PSA’s ammo production facility had already been under construction for a year. “Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than right,” he commented in his post.''
Have to shoot brass now but still a great deer ar cartridge!!! And still WAY more reasonable priced than anything else in that range. I want 6.5 Grendel back !!!! In steel!!!
I think its worth it, I bought one of your 7.62x39 complete rifles an love plinking with it, along with my first love an SKS. Ballisticaly its equal to a 30/30 an thats good enough for me.
No currently we need real representation in DC to stop the import bans. The cheap Russian steel cased stuff shoots far more consistently than Winchester or that Macedonian stuff.
Need a mutant 47 or A KS47 WITH A 7.62X39MM UPPERS AND A 6.5MM GRENDEL UPPER AND STILL BE ABLE TO USE THE AK47 MAGS It would give you a 2 caliber capability using your lower just swapping your uppers and usually AK47 mags would be nice
@@wood-wheel-wizard I know. It was backordered for a long time then one day as I was checking on it, I couldn’t find it and called in. Even they didn’t know why it was no longer on the website
@BearCreekAR I purchased the BC-15 AR .300blk out rifle. Tried shooting subs through it, and it hung up ever round shot through the 30 round magazine using sub sonic rounds. I called 6 or 7 times, and left messages with there customer service line. They will not answer there phone or return calls. I figure all I need is a lighter spring so it will properly eject the casings. Expect No service after the purchase for Bear Creek Arsenal.
7.62X39 isn't going anywhere. Plenty of countries manufacture ammo in the cartridge other than Russia. It's too popular of a round for it not to be manufactured by someone somewhere.
I saw Federal 30-30 at Walmart last October for $20 a box. Got my 3 box limit simply because I had not seen any in the last few years. I don't even own a 30-30.
unfortunately I am a low income poor so any ammo at any price is expensive to me. especially since the economy has skyrocketed. heck I can barely keep the lights on and gas in my car
PSA is working on 7.62x39 mm ammo production. 👍🇺🇸👍
I've heard this as well, I thought they said they planned on being up and running sometime in 2023,
Right....but it will cost enough that it doesn't make sense anymore. I haven't even watched the video yet, but they sell a lot of 7.62 uppers, they aren't going to say "no, not worth it, don't buy them" however, me and alot of others built there 7.62 ars because we could get 40 rounds for $9 or less. The whole point was essentially Russian surplus. "Tul ammo, bear, wolf, etc. If 7.62 starts to approach the price of low end 300 blk.....it doesn't make sense anymore, period. (As in doesn't make sense to buy or build a NEW gun that takes that chambering)
@@neroaugustus5378 I have to disagree, the 762x39 round is a very good round, and in my opinion worth paying more for if it comes down to that, or worth paying more for over replacing the upper I have for a caliber I didn't want to begin with. I personally didn't get a 762 upper for to take advantage of cheaper ammo, since my next build was a 50 Beowulf and lord knows that ammo is at a premium, but its fun to shoot.
To bad there not russian..cause they will be asking a premium
@@kaylachapman4469 I don't think so, PSA is generally pretty budget friendly on they stuff they make, their goal was to keep a supply of less expensive ammo, 762x39 is readily available now in brand name brass case but you will pay a price for it, its usually in line with better hunting ammo. I bought some Winchester game point in 762x39 and if I recall it was close to 17 a box. its been 2 years now and haven't had the want to shoot that pricey stuff
I think ammo manufacturers are liking the absurd prices and plan to do what they can to keep it that way.
Right it’s more profit for them and people will panic buy again and again
that’s the idea we go out panic buy making it look like the manufacturers are low on product and demand so high they have the justification to raise the prices. then when the buying slows down they keep the same price slow down production until we panic buy what’s on the shelves then they put out some and raise the price again.
Hannity was just talking about the price of ammo. He mentioned how they are sending all the ammo , or a good chunk of it, over to Ukraine. Meanwhile, most of the ammo manufacturers have been swallowed up by the large companies so there is only 4 left in the US creating a monopoly like environment. May be a good startup business if you are willing to sell at reduced prices.
@@petejurgaitis4197 This is exactly what the guy at my local range was saying when I asked wtf happened to all the 7.62x39 all of the sudden. He didn't mention Hannity but basically his response was Ukraine.
@@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917 Well that and the fact that our regime banned Russian ammo imports so any Tula/Wolf you see for sale was from the last contract signed, and no more import contracts can happen....probably for good even though it's supposed to be temporary (so was the China firearm import ban....which still stands)
7.62x39 is a worldwide universal round, so there will be access to it, unlike some rounds that are more "country specific".
Like what 7.62x25
@@nickherreragt lmao
I don’t get this, why isn’t 5.45x39 a more worldwide universal round since its been around since 1974 and is the successor to the ak-47.
@@nickrockz97 idk maybe because storage and stores have more of 556 308 and 762x39
5.45 is not a "successor" to the 7.62x39. AK'S manufactured in the US, or fr the US market, can be found in a variety of sizes; however, they're all 7.62x39 for thr rest of the world. Where they are primarily used for target shooting in the US, where a lethal round isn't so necessary, they are
primarily a combat weapon in the rest of the world, where a "killing" round is necessary. A 5.45/.223 is a "fat" .22, and shooting an enemy with layers of clothing, gear vests, etc. More often than not wounds them. The object in combat is to kill the enemy so he can't kll you. 7.62x39 is very capable of doing that !!
There was a local gun shop near my house that sold 40 round boxes of Tula for only $5.99 each all the way up to early 2020. I should of bought a plastic swimming pool sized amount of ammo from them. I used to be in the mindset of only buy ammo as I need it and there are so many AKs and SKSs out there that 7.62x39 will be cheap forever. Now those mindsets have cost me a lot of extra money.
Every day I wake up, I kick myself for not buying more of the $189 cases of 7.62.
I didn't have anywhere to store it, or shoot enough, to justify it.
So true, same here
@@kellyharbeson18 Yeah it's dirty, not accurate, and more malfunction prone but hey it's cheap and as long as your just doing some plinking and don't really care about super tight groups then it's fine. I have noticed that the Tula 7.62x39 in the past five years has been more reliable and consistent in terms of power (not that it matters now).
@@kellyharbeson18 I bought a bunch when the whole Russian ammo ban was announced. It seems like it's drying up now but Sterling is putting some out there now but they make horrible 9mm ammo. There's also some new stuff coming out of eastern Europe and central Asia.
My first case of Wolf 7.62x39 mm I bought in 1998 was $104 delivered for 1K rounds😳👍👍. I miss those days.
I don't shoot a ton of it, but I saw this coming. I packed away around 3 cases of it years ago. I paid around $4.50 a box.
Yeah........I bought a bunch under the same premise, ended up needing to borrow some money from my dad and gave him a 7.62 AR and a thousand rounds as collateral. I later sold him a 10.5 inch, with a thousand rounds. Got back on my feet. Paid him back, and bought the 10.5 back.....but the ammo was unspokenly unpresent and was just like "word". I haven't said anything because he doesn't have a gun to shoot it so it's like.....ok, when the shit hits the fan, your safe or my safe, whatever. It's gonna feed my guns. But still....... everytime I look in my ammo cupboard Id really like to see those 2000 rds in there. I'm probably gonna switch over to 300 blk here in the next year and start reloading for it. It didn't make sense to me three years ago, but now, meah.
@@neroaugustus5378 I reload both. I still prefer 5.56 for general use. Projectile cost is the biggest drawback.
Must be nice
@neroaugustus5378 shoot man, father or not that's a shit ton of ammo you should definitely say something maybe he just forgot. And if it's fine either way to you, why not keep it in your own collection rather than trust someone else with it? It's yours
during the ammo crunch here in texas you couldnt buy a 22lr but you could always find 7.62x39
7.62x39mm is made all over the world it is not going anywhere.
PSA will be making steel case 7.62 and 5.45 ammo in 2023
😀
There goes my hero
Why not brass? Is brass more expensive?
@@PerSon-xg3zr yes, brass cased ammo is more expensive than steel case
Will it be with communist primers
@@mattdockery307 Psa owns advanced armament corporation which is also known as america's ammo company, all components are US made in Columbia S.C.
BCA has done great things for the firearms industry. I love their products they are super affordable and reliable. Always something new in the works too. Thanks BCA!!
Winchester just announced their new products for 23 and one of them was white box 7.62x39!
They been making white box 7.62x39 for over a decade, and it was expensive before the pandemic.
Yes and it’s junk
I bought 18 boxes Winchester white box (20 cartridges) for 14.99 at Sportsman’s Warehouse in northern Cali. Have not shot it yet. Also bought Sellior & Bellot for $18 a box. Are these reasonable prices?
@@rolo7487 S&b is the better option as it’s pretty accurate
@@rolo7487 No, before the pandemic it was 16 to 18 cents a round.
For those of us that bought multiple 1000s of rounds at 10c a round, I guess you missed out.
I must say I have purchased to 762 by 39 uppers from Bear Creek Arsenal they shoot phenomenally extremely accurate and I usually shoot out to two hundred yards normal but I have shot pigs at 4 to 500 yards with this Bear Creek Upper and the 762 by 39 thank you BCA
Shot my ar-47 today. Love it.
Glad I bought my 7.62 from BCA
Still worth buying 762,.
I can find 762 in almost all my local shops for the same or cheaper price than 223/556
Absolutely no issue finding 7.62x39 for me…
At 400 a case
@@PeaceManBro IDK where ur getting ur ammo lol
@@oaklavegas8779it’s 380-400+ on ammoseek. Mind sharing with us the cheaper sources?
Where I live I keep getting lots of Russian commercial 7.62 hollow point from the 90s made for hunting. That seems to be the cheapest non corrosive ammo I can find.
Bulgaria, Serbia, etc all stepping up to the plate on ammo.
The serbian made ammo is really shit on price but I'm actually surprised the bulgy ammo is affordable.
It's so damn expensive to shoot nowadays 3 years ago I used to by 1000 7.62x39 or 1000 223. Tula or wolf For only $187 shipped from brownells those days are long gone
I’ve been buying my 7.62x39 from Global Ordnance/Arsenal and it’s been very accurate and consistent ammo manufactured in Bulgaria.
Where their primary weapons are AK'S in 7.62x39
what’s them and PSA i notice how they change some of their ammo prices. example PMC on their website says was $21 for a box of 20 rounds and now being sold for $17.14 for the same box. funny because most stores i have been and website i buy from sell it for $15-16 each box. notice how it was $21 and now $17 but everyone else is still selling for $15-16. your so tired of expensive ammo you notice that drop from $21 to $17 and think your getting a good deal but really paying more than the normal price.
Nice to see a solid video that avoids the hype and nonsense supposedly inherent in 7.62x39 AR's. Good job!
I see an absolute ton of people talking about the side charger. They are amazing. BUT, one thing I learned; the idea you have for the side charger still doesn't come to what your expecting because you have to either break firing grip, or reach over the top with the awkward Ak charge. For a while, I was cutting a slot in the left side of my receivers, drilling and tapping the hole, and moving the charging handle to the left side. This combined with a bad lever altered the manual of arms with an AR into something Intuitive. I manipulate the bolt with firing hand in the grip, both to lock it to the rear, and to drop it. The lever sits right where you index you finger when your displaying "trigger control". Bang, bang bang, click: instead of that awkward, break your grip, hold in the bolt catch with left, while bracing the gun against.... something....and charging from the rear, or the first part the same, and reaching over the top of the gun, all I have to do when that happens is drop mag, push up with my trigger finger, and pull the bolt to the rear simultaneously with my left on the left side, smack mag against gun, reinsert, push up with triger finger, bang bang bang. It SO much more intuitive. Anyways, the point of the comment is to say that bear creek in the last year or two has come out with left side charging right side eject uppers......now literally all you have to do is buy a b.a.d. lever (battery assist device) (piece of advice, I bed mine down with jb weld to essentially make one solid piece from the bolt catch and the bad lever, otherwise, it can shift when your really torquing on it and it bugs me. I just filled it with jb, reassembled, and wiped away the excess and let it cure. Apparently they sell one piece bolt catch's with bad lever now as well, might be a better idea) daaaamn long ass comment, my bad.
You only have to charge once, they have lrbho, so there is no real change, it doesn't go click the bolt locks back?
If you are smart and saw the writing on the wall at least 4 years ago & you already stocked up on 7.62x39, 5.45x39, 5.56x45, 7.62x51, 7.62x63 & 7.62x54r ages ago and have been simply sitting on it for some years now.
If not, better jump on whatever you can get your hands on currently and stock up.
We need more ammo made in the US. Nothing is cheap anymore. I shoot 22lr these days that's all I can afford
Absolutely a good round for me. Every store near me has plenty of 7.62x39 in plenty,
The people who bought 7.62X39 years ago for $4.50 to $5 were very smart. There is plenty of it today from Arsenal of Bulgaria, GO branded. But even when PSA spins up their AK 47-74 and 54R production, I don't see 7.62X39 getting below 38 cents per round shipped. It might be scarce in stores, but you can always get it online for 40 cpr or less. I don't expect this to fluctuate much in the next few years. Arsenal BG is a military contractor. They can crank out as much as is needed. The same goes for Igman and PPU.
I've been buying the Eastern European manufactured Belom brand. NATO spec ammo in most calibers. Clean burning. Reloadable. Consistent high velocity in 7.62x39. I'm paying about 50¢ a round when I catch it on sale. I picked up 1000 rounds of S&B PSP hunting ammo 7.62X39 last week for 60¢ a round.
I did the same...really like that Belom ammo....bought a thousand rounds....I have a Bulgarian AK47...a Norinco SKS....a 16 inch AR and a 10.5 AR...all in 7.62x39. I also bought some PPU PSP soft point as well...I have some steel cased Wolf ammo as sort of a "last resort" stash...but I would only shoot it out of my AK or SKS.
JUST OPENED MY BOX FROM BEAR CREEK AND SHOT 100 ROUNDS OF TULU 7.62X39 FROM MY LEFT SIDE BC15. NO JAMS AND ONLY TWO NO FIRES . PRETTY HAPPY.
There’s plenty 7.62 around and plenty people making it
We're talking hunting specific ammo Like SST and soft points the price is about the same Between 300 blackout and X39
thats not the point of the discussion.. Its how much x39 ammo has gone up since the obama bans.
Stop buying ammo...sit on what you have for a year or so and let supply catch up to and exceed demand. Everyone keeps saying "buy it now before 'X' happens..." Just making the problem even worse.
The problem with "if everybody just does X" game is you're playing prisoners dilemma with a million or more people. Just in case you thought the prisoner's dilemma with 2 people was bad enough.
This is exactly what kept me from switching to a 7.62 upper. Maybe 300 blackout is a more sensible option but pricey.
7.62 uppers have a huge tendency to break extractors. Any company that sells 7.62 bolts will have this issue. I went 300blk and its meant to use standard 5.56 equipment. In the end I just bought and AK cus its massively cheaper and you can get more range time, then converting and AR (Jan 2023)
Not so sure it’s cheaper (buying AK) as ARs are dropping in price and AKs increasing, if you have spare parts, though DuraMags are harder to find and not as cheap as PMags. Re: spare AR 39 parts: extractors and enhanced firing pins aren’t hard to find and easy to replace but finding a more robust bolt that fits 7.62 x 39 AR is a bit harder and a bit more expensive than a modified 5.56 bolt, which is what most mfgs sell. RTB has fair # of 7.62 x 39 parts if can’t find from BCA.
I was reading your Google reviews you only had two point three stars with a lot of customer complaints give the impression people are better off just saving the extra to something and getting something best proven and reliable
7.62x39 is not something I stock since I own AR’s but PSA has something close and modern (PS47 I think?). It’s a very good round and that caliber in a modern platform is ideal for me. Regardless of the price, I think it would be a good idea to join the 7.62x39 community.
Just received 300 blackout from BCA. looking forward to shooting it.
Oh wow, I wish I could find it that cheap - usually out of stock locally for me, and haven't seen it below 49 cents a round since the ban
.45 a round at academy today. Shipping is around $8
I'm never tried 7.62x39 in an AR platform but love it in AKs. I'd like a BCA side charging upper chambered in it. Having to buy the mags extra is the turn off, but some other calibers like to run mags made for them best. Even if that caliber fits in a 223 mag. I may try one sometime. I'm still interested in the 350 legend tho also.
350 legend is a tac driver for deer and hog hunting. I have been using it the past few years and won't use anything else.
@@jemiller4x4v8 I've heard the same from others also. Thanks.
I have a 7.5 Gen 2 7.62 side charging upper on cmmg lower with binary trigger a c products 28 Rd mag and I absolutely love it. Plus I don't feel as bad now while mag dumping in binary mode as I did in 5.56.
Love my gen 2 side charger in 7.62x39
Fun shooter
I have a Saiga AK, an Anderson AM16, and a PSA AK GF3 all in 7.62x39
Barnaul 7.62x39mm Ammo 123 Grain FMJ Lacquer Coated Steel Case 700 Rounds in Sealed Tin
and Belom Tactical 7.62x39mm Ammo 123 Grain Full Metal Jacket-Brass Case of 480 are avaiable
I can get a box of Tula 762 for 9.99 the box of Tula 223 cost me $14.99. Plus it's easy enough for them to import the ammo from a country that doesn't have a ban on it. I'm willing to bet we'll see a shortage of 223 again before we see the 762 go anywhere.
Just picked up some brass ammo
When the Russian import ban was first made known…I started buying the steel cased European non corrosive 7.62x39 as much as possible (happy to say it’s stacked pretty deep and the funny thing is that at that time, I didn’t even own a rifle chambered in the caliber)…then I ordered two BCA 16” Gen 2 side charging uppers (one for me and one for my brother…excellent uppers 👍👍👍) and bought a myself a Ruger American Ranch in 7.62X39 at a good price from a local FFL dealer who had one a customer had requested but backed out of his order for the fear of the upcoming ammo ban ??? 🙄🙄🙄…another remedy to insure a steady source of 7.62X39 was to stock up on reloadable brass ammo from NORMA and BELOM by utilizing free shipping and special offers from both online sources and my local Rural King farm store (I’m a reloader and bullet caster/powder coater) even though the initial cost was somewhat higher for the reloadable brass, the option to having it for a reloadable source of ammunition out weighed that cost 😊…7.62X39 reloadable brass ammunition is pretty much out of stock at NORMA but BELOM still pops up from time to time from Global Ordinance and if you have a Rural King in your area it’s worth checking into (they sometimes even have TULA steel in stock) 👍👍👍
This year 7.62 went up a bit sadly...
But Russia isn’t the only manufacturer of cheap steel cased 7.62x39, cause all the satellite nations of the former Soviet Union also had ammo making capabilities. Serbia, Ukraine (when not at war) Romania all have ability to manufacture ammo. Plus, if Tula or anyone like that wants to, they could send the tooling to another country, and manufacture there. Wouldn’t be Russian made anymore.
Implying the Ukraine War won't last for multiple decades? Lol.
@@dualityofmorons oh. Well good on him I guess.
Yes. I still want one. 👍🏿👍🏾👍🏽👍🏼👍🏻👍🇺🇸
I agree, 7.62x39 is still a good deal. The 6.5 Grendel can't be found. It's just not out there.
I wonder if some crazy company will decide to try to mass produce 300 blackout to 7.62x39 amounts.
Psa supposed to be manufacturing there own grendel ammo!!
Today x39is losing to 556 in cost per round. But it shouldn’t be. And x39 still is a hard hitter
7.62 is everywhere in my area. Tula wolf red army all that good stuff.
Thanks for a great, concise talk on relevant Blammo! Keep ‘em coming. ❤ MAGA 🎉
You can find 7.62x39 ammo all over the net
Norma and Belom Brass ammo are still reasonable and I reload.
Exactly. There's several manufacturers of x39 ammo that are not Russian, and therefore NOT affected by the Russian ammo embargo
I want it, good large caliber, with cheep available ammo... 🙏 I had to go with 5.56 for my first Rig as it's more common in USA 🇺🇸 🙃
One year later it’s now over 50 cents a round and climbing. Russian supply has dried up and it’s getting more expensive than 5.56/223.
Bear creek will be my go to for stocking my store this year. So many flavors of AR! Lets get a 5.7 gun and a bullpup guys!
where is all the .45-70 ammo at?
"outside of the AR" key words there...most people are thinking AR vs AK...AR ammo is now cheaper.
"what do you have to lose?" being stuck with a gun that you cannot shoot because all US made AK ammo is over 1$ a round.
You can get a thousand rounds of 7.62 for just $20 more than 5.56.
35cents per round IN BULK, with free shipping. You add shipping on smaller orders and you're looking at even more. Local gun shops are at more than 50cents per round....
I'm still kicking myself for not starting a business making reliable, steel-cased 7.62 ammo here in the states 10 years ago. We had a business plan and everything set up, just didn't have the inital investment/investors to start it up.....
got the rear charging handle 16". the BELOM gave consistent moa or less 5 round groups off sandbags at 50 yards. Am Dying to get the rig out to the 100 and 200. That means 1/2 inch or less groups at 50 yards. the steel case soft point ammo gave me about 1.5 moa, very happy. For those who question the 7.62x39 for hunting, I spent hours researching REAL ballistics acquired by chronograph on youtube. Seems like days of it. Transcribed the manufacturer and bullet weight along with the average MV. Same for the 300 hammer and the 30-30, No, I am not going to even try to post the pages of information and reference information. Feel free to do your own search and investigation. Bottom line, barnaul is the hottest at about 2550 from a 16 inch bbl/125gr sp. The cartridge is Very close to the 30-30 out of a 20 inch barrel and the 300 hammer. Hours actually was spread out over a couple of weeks. A couple of hours a day. I did not want to come to a conclusion until I found youtube posts that were younger than a year old. Get one, realize that if you shoot it like a 22lr semi auto the need to replace that extractor increases. Four of my hunting buddies now have semi auto and bolt guns in this cartridge and they are Very happy.
Still hoping for a commission from BCA for all the sales I sent their way!
@@ed5042 lol. They are nice rifles gen 1 side charger here. I need to buy more x39 ammo and shoot mine more.
BELOM is GTG (even if you don’t reload, still chase down and recover your brass…it’s easy to sell to another shooter who does 😎)…also keep an eye out for special offers from NORMA and if you have a Rural King farm store in your vicinity, they often have BELOM on their shelves as well as Russian steel stuff (for now)
This is your role right here, it suits you well.....👍
Great round. With the right projectile can be used to take about any game in North America.
I for now am regulating my 7.62 AR15 upper to training. Premature extractor breakage seems to be given for AR15 bolts set up to handle 7.62x39. There was an internet claim that Young manufacturing bolts have a superior extractor. I will have to test that out. For now for self defense the 300 blackout chambered AR is more reliable than is the 7.62x39 AR15 upper. A broken extract make an AR good for just one shot.
PSA announces plans to make steel case russian calibers. No mention of pricing, but if the steel case is boxer primed it may be reloadable.
''McCallum said in his post that PSA had indeed been working on building their own steel-cased ammunition production facility. They planned to start churning out Russian calibers first, including 5.45×39, which some combloc fans worried would disappear from shelves completely in the US.
PSA’s decision to make these calibers wasn’t directly related to the Russian ammo ban, though. McCallum said in his post that PSA’s ammo production facility had already been under construction for a year. “Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than right,” he commented in his post.''
Even at higher prices it’s still the least expensive option
I'm glad I bought a shit load when I did! But I'm still stacking as much as I can!
My favorite chambering for whitetails and coyotes.
30-30 is basically being crowded out and artificially pumped up. More calibers means higher cost.
Have to shoot brass now but still a great deer ar cartridge!!! And still WAY more reasonable priced than anything else in that range. I want 6.5 Grendel back !!!! In steel!!!
You guys going to make some more 9mm pistols soon?
Russia wants to sell us bullets, but we are not allowed to buy them. Who sells bullets to their "enemy"? Can anyone explain?
30/30 isn't exclusively made in the US but it is for the most part though PPU does make ammunition in Serbia
I think its worth it, I bought one of your 7.62x39 complete rifles an love plinking with it, along with my first love an SKS. Ballisticaly its equal to a 30/30 an thats good enough for me.
I at one time was paying $2.29 for 20 roumds and sometimes on sale for $1.79 for wolf
No currently we need real representation in DC to stop the import bans. The cheap Russian steel cased stuff shoots far more consistently than Winchester or that Macedonian stuff.
X39 is a cool round. Hope to see a nice, long future for the round
Psa will be making 7.62x39 by 2024 summer maybe earlier the ceo said
Ive shot russian red army standard and wolf ammo, i have hungarian ammo but havent tried it out yet.
Need a mutant 47 or A KS47 WITH A 7.62X39MM UPPERS AND A 6.5MM GRENDEL UPPER AND STILL BE ABLE TO USE THE AK47 MAGS It would give you a 2 caliber capability using your lower just swapping your uppers and usually AK47 mags would be nice
There’s so much in state….and PSA is tooling up to cover the loss.
It's .300 blk but actually affordable.
7.62x39, I got an AK47 a few years ago. Tula was under 7 a box for fmj. Now at the same place its 12 a box. Ridiculous
I don't care who makes it or where it comes from, I just want it to cost no more than 35cpr.
I know the days of 18cpr x39 are gone.
I really wished y’all would put out a right hand charging handled 7.62 with a 10in barrel again! No longer on website 😢 sad day
Crazy I bought that upper months ago
@@wood-wheel-wizard I know. It was backordered for a long time then one day as I was checking on it, I couldn’t find it and called in. Even they didn’t know why it was no longer on the website
It's all over the place there's plenty of the russki rounds around, plus you have PSA producing steel case ammo and importing Norma brass ammo.
@BearCreekAR I purchased the BC-15 AR .300blk out rifle. Tried shooting subs through it, and it hung up ever round shot through the 30 round magazine using sub sonic rounds. I called 6 or 7 times, and left messages with there customer service line. They will not answer there phone or return calls. I figure all I need is a lighter spring so it will properly eject the casings. Expect No service after the purchase for Bear Creek Arsenal.
Same price as .556 and .223 ammo. Even cheap 5.7x28 costs the same as 7.62x39 ammo.
Give me the 7.62!
It's 2024 and 5.56/.223 is around 52¢ and 7,62x39 is 55¢ and that for non green tip base fmj
Where?
government infringes on shall not be infringed? naahh can't be!
7.62X39 isn't going anywhere. Plenty of countries manufacture ammo in the cartridge other than Russia. It's too popular of a round for it not to be manufactured by someone somewhere.
Should have bought it when it was really available back in the 90s.
Will the 7.62ammo completely deplete from the us ?
Why i havent bought an ak yet
I saw Federal 30-30 at Walmart last October for $20 a box. Got my 3 box limit simply because I had not seen any in the last few years. I don't even own a 30-30.
PSA is going to start making steel case in the US. The shortage will be goon by the end of 2023.
LC is working on producing some.
Can't wait for your Bolt Action uppers 🤔
GOD BLESS AAC
still cheaper than supersonic 300blk so I'd argue that it's still relevant
As long as the ammo prices are moderately high the poor cannot stockpile!
7.62x54r AR-10. Make it happen
unfortunately I am a low income poor so any ammo at any price is expensive to me. especially since the economy has skyrocketed. heck I can barely keep the lights on and gas in my car
why? you gotta get a better job
Your right i should get more.