ORTHO Hose End Sprayer CALIBRATION MADE EASY - Dial N Spray
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- Here is the best way to calibrate the Ortho Dial N Spray hose-end sprayer for lawn use. No pacing, no timing, no counting gallons or GPM, and NO MATH. You can do it yourself in about 15 minutes.
Tommy, I used the same type sprayer last season and did a similar test but not as complete as yours. My results matched yours almost exactly. I really like the chart you made and saved a screenshot of it. Thank you for posting this.
Tommy is the real American hero folks. Thanks for the data my man!
Hero ... that's funny. Thanks though.
Great work, very useful. Saves us all the iterations needed to figure this out.
Very helpful, Tommy. Thanks for doing this!
You may notice the amount delivered per 1000 sq. ft. is essentially 3x what is on the dial. If you set it to 4 oz, 12 oz or so will be delivered per 1000 sq. ft. Simple. If you do this test, yours should be pretty close to this one. Have fun.
So basically the higher the setting in the dial the more product you're laying down? Thanks so much for a great video
Depends on how much you soak that 1000 square feet.
This simple video made me understand how it works so much better! They should include a similar chart with the product! Thanks!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for doing the hard work.and compiling the chart. Very helpful! Saved me tons of work.
Glad it helped!
"What more do you need to know"? Nothing, thank you for your video!
Thank you Sir, I really appreciate this!
I used this thing to clean my roof & i put chlorine in it with dawn dish soap & MAN DID IT WORK GREAT!!.
Awesome!!
That’s a lot of work. I would need to walk and spray the same speed as you and with a liquid the same viscosity as you used. Thicker bio-stimulants need a larger opening. I just use the number 8 setting and put in my product according to how much per 1000/sq. Then I add some water and spray my area until it’s gone. I repeat for other areas.
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God bless you Tommy, you are fantastic, this is what I was going to do to do the evaluation but thought go and do some search and I found your video, I am really happy. I am in Canada, the one I have is marked from 3 ml to 55 ml max. I just need to replace oz to ml or cc.
Thanks again
Glad it helped!
I purchased this same unit last summer. I used it and my settings were terribly off so I went back to my pump sprayer. This season I'll definitely reference this chart. Thanks! 👍🏽
Great chart, will use with my Ortho sprayer and compare with your results. Thanks
Great video! Thanks for your time in getting this info!
Glad it was helpful!
Water pressure or flow rate at the nozzle would affect numbers, would it not? Thanks for the video
Thank you. That’s awesome. My brain and the math didn’t work.
Glad it helped!
This was awesome. Thank you much.
You're very welcome!
I used this info with my Scott sprayer which is basically the identical product but with flow rate labeled roughly in ml/l instead of floz/gal. I just ignored the units entirely and calibrated against my water pressure, my body, and my lawn. Thanks!
Old video but useful! To clarify, you put straight product into the container. Do you ever dilute the product to minimize clog, or will that mess up the calculations?
Most chemicals can be used as-is, no diluting. The whole idea of this sprayer is to let the sprayer do the mixing. That said, a chemical like Humic acid, which is dead plant material (a wet solid), will indeed clog this (and most sprayers) unless diluted significantly. Most people who apply humic acid use a backpack sprayer and not a hose-end sprayer. Good luck! Tommy.
Tommy, if you are still reading this: I guess I won't name products but I am trying to discover if I can use a hose end sprayer with a liquid product concentrate whose directions are to mix said concentrate 1/5 - 1 part product to 5 parts water with a backpack sprayer. Product doesn't specify sq ft it will cover. Well, anywhere from 700-2000 using a backpack sprayer depending on how heavy you lay it on. I would prefer the hose end sprayer for my project to a backpack sprayer. BTW, using your method I now know my settings for 1000 sq. ft. Thanks.
I purchased same sprayer 5yrs ago use annual I would recommend. In your video you didn't mention using concentrate. thanks Ray A
The best damn video on this topic hands down. Curious if you removed the screens or filters on your sprayer.
Now why didn't this chart come with the spray head?! Thanks! 😄👍
Well done! Thank you.
Very Nice video ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🇨🇦
Interesting test but.. what if someone walks slower or faster than you did in the video ? Wouldn’t that affect how much product is being delivered to the lawn? What about how fast the water is being delivered from the hose? 1gallon per minute? 2 gallons per minute? This would affect the delivery of product as well, right?
Yes. I show how to do it for yourself with your own setup and measure the results. Thanks.
@TommyTester Hi Tommy great videos. I am using Surflan A.S. herbicide. It is thick as paint and definitely a horrible mess if you use full strength in this sprayer. I wanted to dilute the herbicide with water, so its easier to flow through the system and easier clean up. Can you comment on whether or not this is correct? Surflan A.S. states 1fl oz, or 30mL per 1000sq ft is the application for turfgrass. After watching your video, I plan on putting 1fl oz (30mL) of material in the Ortho Spray and Dial system, then add 23oz of water and put it on your setting A, or 8oz on the dial. If I do that and apply to 1000sq feet, Im understanding you would apply 1oz of material because thats all you put in, and if you empty it out- mission accomplished. Appreciate your feedback. Lastly, since Im sure you are aware this sprayer has a hard time pulling up fluid when it's almost empty, so I am thinking its better to put in a little more herbicide, a bit more water and that way it will suck up fluid the entire time you spray? Agree?
Your method requires the same walking pace or time spent spraying coverage on that 1000 sq. Ft.
I am still so confused. It is so simple it is complicated! 🤥
I will be using Ikes Sandbur Preventer which states: "Mix rate for Sandbur & Crabgrass Preventer is 1.1-1.6 fl oz per gallon of water, per 1,000 sq ft."
Being very thick it is recommended to be diluted with 50% water in the sprayer.
What would I set the sprayer dial too?
Good info, thanks.
Hi Tommy, I have the Ortho DialN Spray .My problem is that I need only a small amount of concentrate .5oz/1000 sq feet (i have 2000 sq feet so would it be 1 oz per 2000 sq feet) . I oz of concentrate in the sprayer doesnt work yet alone.5 oz. as its just to llittle ofan amount. How much water do I add to container AND/OR what settings do I use. Thanks, A Tommy in Florida.
Ah, good question. The Dial-N-Spray is designed to be used with concentrate (don't add water to the jug), so in your case the chart at 8:30 says use Level 1 (1 TSP) to give 0.5oz/1000 sqft and only pour in 1oz as you say into the jug, which is a minor amount and not likely to all get picked up.
The better plan is to fill the jug to the 1/4 full or so with the concentrate, use the level 1 setting still, and do a one-pass spray as I demonstrated, using up just 1 ounce of the concentrate over that 2000 sq. ft. area. Then pour the remainder back into your container.
Thank you!
Thanks so much!
You're welcome!
I would figure this would be pretty much common sense. You start with 8 oz. and then keep cutting it in half basically you're gonna reduce the material put down by half each time for each setting. Thanks for informative video.
I like this chart. If I need to put down two ounces per 1,000 sq ft., it would mean using 6 ounces of product, leaving 26 ounces left (based on starting with 32 ounces).
The instructions state to use two ounces per gallon for 1, 000 sq ft. The flow is two gallons per minute. So if I was doing this based on time I would need to spray the 1,000 sq ft in 30 seconds.
With the chart I can take my time.
(Are my numbers correct?).
Use the 4 TSP dial setting to get 2 oz delivered per 1000 sq ft using a standard delivery pace.
Awesome video.
This is very helpful. But I'm confused by a couple of things. Isn't the amount delivered determined by your walking/moving pace and also your water pressure? For example, if you did your exact same test with the same setting and your water pressure at the house was twice what your water pressure is now, wouldn't twice as much herbicide be delivered to your 1000 sq ft area since there is twice as much water being applied (and therefore twice as much herbicide)?
It's designed for typical residential water pressure service which is generally 60 psi, but obviously the size and length of hose used will determine the flow through the unit. By doing the test as described you are in essence calibrating the delivery rate for your specific home situation. Your specific comfortable walking pace is also rolled into the same test. Try to spray the target area as if it was a dry surface like a driveway, just enough moisture to "paint" it all equally. Good luck!
@@TommyTester Thanks. that clears things up for me.
Question.....
I'm wanting to spray molasses at 3oz per 1000 sqft on my lawn. I will need to dilute the molasses so it will get sucked up in the sprayer. If I did 2000 sqft at a time I'd put in 6oz of molasses and then assuming just fill the rest of the Ortho sprayer up with water (26oz).
My question is since I now have a diluted solution would I then need to set the sprayer dial to ~6oz to get my 3oz/1000sqft? Am I thinking about this correctly?
Thank you!
You definitely want to avoid clogging at all costs. That means diluting and mixing the material in a bucket thoroughly before it goes in the jug, and using the maximum setting, which delivers 23 ounces of "jug" material per 1000 sq. ft.
The mixing ratio in your bucket would simply be 20:3, 20 parts water to 3 parts mud. Premix enough to cover your full area. An example would be for a 5000 sq. ft. area, 15 oz of mud (5x3) + 100 oz water (5x20); 115 oz total. This means you'll refill the jug 3.6 times (115/32) from your bucket in this example.
@@TommyTester thank you very much for this. I haven't used a hose end sprayer yet so I'm trying to understand how these work and the math behind it. I will take off the filter screen when I do this and use hot water to dilute my solution to help things flow easier. I can use a milk jug to mix my solution.
If I understand this correctly I can also fill my jug up to the 23 oz mark with the solution and theoretically the jug will be empty after I spray 1000 sq ft? Then I'd have to fill my jug up 5 times.
If I wanted to change the ratio and put down 4oz per 1000 sq ft then my ratio would be 19:4?
Thank you
Hi what is the hose pipe connection size that threads into this please? I'm in the UK and just ordered one from the US that's on its way. Our standard hose pipes here are all different sizes. I have a 3/4 thread hose and a 1/2 inch quick connector hose. I've heard two conflicting answers that this Dial n Spray is 5/8 but I've also heard its 3/4. Can you please confirm which one it is so I can get my adapter ordered online now as well because I think I'll need one? Many thanks
3/4" GHT (Garden Hose Thread). The sprayer is a female. Hoses in the USA come in 5/8" and 3/4" but they both use 3/4" GHT ends - one male and one female. Good luck.
@@TommyTester Beautiful I should be okay then that's great! Thanks for getting back to me.
Hello sir my name is Shane l have a question l have a 5000 sqft lawn l use the N-EXT products RGS to be exact on the label it says to use 3oz/1000 sqft that's 15 oz total l put 24 oz in total to account for flowers etc filled the rest of the container with water put the settings on 2oz I'm finding that l need to refill the container a little more to finish I'm l diluting the product to much please explain what I'm doing wrong thank you for your time
The 2 oz setting delivers 6 oz/1000 = 5333 sq. ft. for a full jug, which is just enough to do your lawn. The 1.5 oz setting delivers 4.5 oz/1000, so a full jug should cover 32/4.5 = 7000 equivalent sq. ft. before you run dry. The 1 oz setting covers twice the 2 oz setting for a full jug, so 10666 equivalent sq. ft. Try the 1.5 oz setting and add enough product for 7000 sq. ft (21 oz) and the rest being water. Enjoy!
@@TommyTester great thanks for the info l definitely will
@@TommyTester hello just wanted to thank you put an app down today kept app rate to square footage the same but backed my sprayer down to 1 1/2 oz made a world of difference made it all the way through thank you again for your knowledge
First time user of this spray; really good information. In the chart above I am confused about note 2. What does use Level 8(marked 20z) mean? Thanks
That should be 2 oz)
The dial identifies oz per gallon, but for lawn use we need to know oz per 1000 sq. ft. / The test was to determine the conversion factor from one to the other. It turns out to be 3.
good video.
So If I've got this right - my product says 2.5 oz per 300 sq.ft. Coverting 300 sq. to 1000 sq. ft and multiplying the 2.5 oz per 300 sq ft application; means, i think, i need to be putting down 8.33 oz per 1000/sqft. Acccording to your chart then I should use dial setting 3 oz? And I put the 8.33 oz of product in container w/o additional water?
Correct, however if you only add 8.3 ounces it will run out in 1000 sq. Ft. If you fill the jug with 32 oz of product you'll be able to cover 4000 sq. Ft or so before needing to refill the jug. Make sense?
@@TommyTester Oh. Finally beginning to catch on.
This didn’t help me! If I need 8oz of solution for 1000 sq fr of lawn do add water to the bottle or just 8 oz of the solution and let it spray from hose through the bottle?
You are using roughly 3x whats need because you are slicing through the short axis with a fan spray, try backing through the long axis with the fan spray.
I need to add 3oz per gallon at 1000sq ft. What do I need?
Set the dial to 1oz. Do not dilute. This will deliver 3 oz per 1000 sq ft if you use a steady pace when spraying the area.
wouldn't dialing smaller make the product more diluted and dialing larger make it more concentrated? assuming the water still sprays 2 gallons a minute? i'm confused...i need 5 oz of product to cover 500 sqft. i can use at least 2 gallons of water but no more than 6. what setting should i have and how much time do i have? i feel i have only like 30 seconds to walk that area...please help thank you
I have the same issue. I’ve been doing this same area in my 2000 sq ft backyard. Round up. Since I’m on a mountain the time really doesn’t matter as I control the trigger. BUT I found filling the container halfway, setting on 6 Oz. w/ the “spray” setting...I split the 2000 sq ft in 2 sections. Do one side with the settings I listed, then reload and do the other 1000 sq ft. Works perfectly 😀. Hope that helps.
@@pumpkinpalmieri0301 So I'm facing sorta the same issue. I want to be sure I understand. You put Round up in the container halfway- ( to the 16 OZ marker in container) - ADDED NO WATER - set the dial at 6 oz, then sprayed a 1000 sq ft area? If so, was that successful in killing weeks?
How far each setting spray goes? I am planning to use in roof cleaning.
Many 10 feet on the "tightest" setting and with good water pressure.
I'm applying 4 Oz per gallon. It's supposed to cover 500 Sq. feet. So WHICH setting do I use on the sprayer? Thanks!!
The 3oz setting will do 4.4 oz per 500 sq. ft.
@@TommyTester Thanks!
Any idea on what size garden hose works for these? Im trying to see if i need an adapter
Any normal size works.
I am trying to get a 1 to 10 ratio what setting would you suggest?
The highest setting is 8oz; thus 8 ounces mixed into 1 gallon (128 ounces). This is thus 128/8 = a 16:1 ratio. You could set it at the 6oz setting (21:1) and go over the area twice equaling 10.5:1 for the area.
@@TommyTester Thank you so much for helping me with this. Enjoy your day and stay safe
I need to apply 32 to 48 oz of product per 1000 sq ft. and on Ortho 8oz is max ,so that gives me only 23oz. What should I do? Thanks 😊
One pass at the 8oz setting puts down 23 ounces in a 1000 sq. ft. area. Refill and do it again and it will then be 46 ounces to that same area.
@@TommyTester oh thank you. That’s a great solution to the dilemma 👏👏
Some people say my Ortho will get clogged because my product is corn gluten and apparently has small bits of corn in it. It is Turf Maize. I’m thinking of putting it true a strainer.
@@lelat.3386 Good idea. You definitely do not want clogs. It messes up the rate. It might pay to run just water through it before refilling. Good luck.
I may be wrong as I hate math and haven’t used the product yet. But, If my chemical says 6oz per 1000 sq/ft couldn’t I put in 6oz of chemical with 26oz of water and just spray until empty over that 1000 sq/ft. Refill and repeat.
The idea of these sprayers is to make one wet pass in an area, applying the recommended amount of chemical as you go. By diluting the chemical by adding in water to the jug, as in your example, you will have to cover the same area 5 times to lay down the recommended amount of chemical.
Why didn’t you spray it in a 5 gallon bucket using 8 oz per one gallon , and when you got one gallon of mixed solution after the 8 oz was gone out of the container
The goal was to determine ounces per 1000 sq. ft. not ounces per gallon.
Is there a sprayer out there that sprays more than 8oz per gallon?
I'm not aware of one.
Great video and very helpful to help get calibrated. However, the description that no pacing or timing is needed is not correct. Ultimately you are measuring how much product is pushed out over a certain amount of time not area. In the demo case it was over 1000 ft^2 but you could have covered that area faster or slower and gotten a different result. Still useful info but if someone thinks they can set a certain number on the dial and get that amount no matter how long they take to cover the area they would be wrong.
No brainer, set it 4oz per 1k sqft you need to calibrate your rate of coverage for that. Who can stand and piss in one place?
So it seems it is a 3x multiplier for a 1000 sqft conversion.
Why doesn't it matter how quickly you spray the designated area? If you take your time, you're going to use more food coloring than if you sprint from one end to the other and back.
The idea is to do "a one pass spray" such as when applying weed killer or fertilizer.
@@TommyTester You can do a fast one-pass spray, or you can take your time and do a slow one-pass spray and really soak each inch of lawn.
0:36. For weed control products, we don't care how much product per gallon of water? So when the label says we need 1 teaspoon per gallon of water for 1000 sq feet, we can use upto maybe 3 gallon of water for that same 1000 sq feet?
Yes. The "1 teaspoon per gallon" is the carrier rate. It dilutes the chemical to a safe level to not damage the turf.
@@TommyTester Okay. So that means, in terms of weed control, we don't care about the concentration rate?
@@stephfong4577 There needs to be enough water to dilute the chemical so that it doesn't hurt the turf but not so much water that it overwhelms the turf, such as a hard rain which would wash much of the chemical deep into the soil rather than be available to the turf. In general, I'd say stay under 20 gallons per 1000 sq. Ft.
Great job.
Thanks!
Crap lol. I knew not to trust the dial. My weed control by bio advance says to use 2 1/2 oz setting for every 1000 sqft. I finished the whole bottle lol. My yard is only 3000sqft
I'm sorry, but to say the video makes understanding the sprayer EASY is an oxymoron.
We should not have to do all of this trial and error mathematics in order to use this thing. There has to be an easier way
I regret buying this thing…
Help! I am so confused. Bought a liquid concentrate today to kill my chickweed. Added 1.5 tsp concentrate to 32 oz water and filled the container. Didn't know what I was doing. Put setting at 1.5 tsp and sprayed for 15 min and the reservoir was still full. Watched your video. Put setting at 6 oz and sprayed for 10 min. And the reservoir had more liquid in it than when I started. What the heck?