The Strongest Legal Performance Enhancing Supplement (not caffeine or creatine)
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0:00 - Intro - The Best Performance-Enhancing Supplement that isn't Caffeine or Creatine
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1:35 - Taurine & Damaged Muscles
3:56 - Taurine & Insulin Sensitivity
5:27 - How Much to Take & When
Thanks for covering the dosage👍
He mentioned what I have been saying for a while now - what you really want is not an insulin spike but insulin sensitivity of your insulin receptors. Insulin has very negative effects on the body if it spikes.
Very good and usefull information. Thanks a lot Thomas. Stef
I've been taking 3g of Taurine daily for 5 years. I swear by it. Nothing wrong with daily use in my own personal 5 year study.
I workout HARD two hours a day. No days off.
Does it make you lose weight?
@@RM-cm8hzuseless
You're correct. I'm a pharmacist and I debunked the common misconception that taurine's antioxidant ability impairs training adaptations, one of the studies I discussed in this video proves otherwise: th-cam.com/video/ku8Ku9MN8T8/w-d-xo.html
Taurine source ?
Taurine is one of the best things for heart health and attenuating glutamate issues. Better than l theanine. Extremely powerful for calcium regulation too. Paired with boron it can help energy and atherosclerosis as well. It really helps mycotoxin issues and helps sulfation.
I'm really interested about d ribose for heart health too but I've never tried it. I have heart and glutamate issues.
Insightful comment. What are your glutamate issues? I'm wonder if I have them too since Theanine is so helpful for me.
Yeah, in theory, all of the supplements are good, but there is no evidence that shows taking these isolated compounds chronically will not lead to long-term health issues or brain related issues, which are extremely difficult to pick up in imaging or testing.
If you can’t get these naturally, I think they have a net-loss effect.
The only synthetic supplements I’d take are like Magnesium/vitamin d3, everything else can be found naturally, and if not, shouldn’t be consumed.
Mycotoxins? Do you mean like mycoplasma?
@@ZxAMobileOld skool is the best skool. Nice!
@@ZxAMobile you should really think twice about the D. Check out Jack Kruse's work. I'm getting a UVB/UVA lamp I'll make myself for a fraction of the cost of a Sperti. You need UVB to sulfate D3 into cholesterol and taking synthetic D will cause issues in the long run
The benefits of taurine on the aging process cannot be ignored. It's a powerful tool 🔧
Yes, all the studies they've done on mice is overwhelming!
@@jamesaron1967 I take it daily. It's dirt cheap.
@obtuseangler768 Not really sure if you're being sarcastic or not but if you want to take it then it's dirt cheap and doesn't seem to have any negative side effects and could actually be very beneficial or if you're being sarcastic then you don't have to take it and it's all good too. 😉
@@Strength.And.Conditioning It was obvious sarcasm.
what ageing benefits are you referring too?
what may be even more important than the benefits of Taurine to muscle tissue is it's benefits to the kidneys. There are several papers that have been published showing that taurine appears to protect and possibly even restore the functionality to damaged nephrons. To what extent it can regenerate damaged nephrons is still being investigated.
Taurine has been shown to play a role in four different forms of kidney disease: glomerulonephritis, diabetic nephropathy, chronic renal failure, and acute kidney injury (AKI).
Taurine is a molecule that has multiple roles in kidney function, such as :
Regulating the osmotic pressure and fluid balance in the kidney
Protecting the kidney from oxidative stress and inflammation
Modulating the renal transport of electrolytes and organic solutes
Enhancing the renal excretion of toxic substances
Preventing the development of kidney stones
Improving the kidney function in diabetic and hypertensive conditions
Been taking it for 2 weeks now. The first thing I discovered was that there was a significant drop in my DOMS that I would experience, especially after leg day. It has only been 2 weeks, but that's the first thing I have noticed.
i bought a sqat rack during covid and i want to do 20 rep squats everyother day. Thanks for that comment as DOMS biggest barrier to me maintaining this. I watched his other video about Beta Alinine 4 to 8mg a day and you get lactic acid tolerance. Helps in the 60 to 240 second range so high rep set or doing HIIT.
Are you still taking tuarine?
Hi Thomas, I've been watching your videos for a while for better heath and working out a little. I was wondering have you ever heard of Shilajit and if so what are your thoughts on it.
I started taking iSatori Amino Gro as an intra-workout drink only on days I go all out. My main reason for this product was that it contains Taurine as a recovery blend, i reached out to the company and they said each scoop contains approximately 2grams of taurine. I've noticed it helps. Better than taking big capsules in my opinion
Much cheaper to just get taurine instead of getting scammed into buying bcaa.
What's the best form of taurine to take?
@@tasosvrettos1627 ALLMAX taurine......best shot
Great video TDL! Love the calf muscle comment....humble and funny. LOL
Taurine is a supplement that figures prominently in anti-aging regimens. It is highly recommended by many to take daily amounts for this purpose alone. I take a minimum of 500mg every day and double the dose to 1g when I do workouts. After viewing this video I will experiment and increase the workout amount. Since I raised the dose of taurine for workouts I noticed a definite increase in performance. It was obvious from day one. Intensity and endurance is up noticeably. This is aerobic training not anaerobic but I highly recommend taurine for any kind of physical exercise, or even if you don't exercise vigorously at all. Wish I had known about it years ago.
Which brand do you take and is better in pill or liquid format?
@@johnkap5740 I take NOW brand in capsules and do not know if the liquid form is better. I haven't tried the liquid.
Came here to say this. It has been shown to have great anti-aging / longevity benefits when taken daily, so this is the first time I disagree with Thomas. 🤓
@@TRUNKER76 I haven't seen anyone on YT who has all the information accurate all the time. One needs to view multiple channels to get a broad scope of knowledge about any health-related topic. Another popular channel recently uploaded a video discounting the positive effects of intermittent fasting. The comments section was full of subscribers criticizing it and countering the negativity of the information with their own experiences. Do what works for you and consider the preponderance of the evidence for any claim being made.
Which brand of Taurine do you take and is it in pill or liquid format?
I started taking Taurine + Arginine about 3 weeks ago to help with heart palpitations Yes, it eliminated the heart palpitations...but it also made me feel better than I've felt in a long time. Good mood and lots of energy.
Vous buvez du café ?
@@ballonlove qoi
You get more arginine from L-Citrulline malate than from Arginine.
Yes! Great information
taurine is part of my evening supplement stack together with glycine, inositol, magnesium and omega-3.
beside of omega-3 all these supps have a relaxing component in it that help my sleep.
in the morning it is time for nac, msm, omega-3 and vitamins.
I take glycine in the late evening for better sleep. I take taurine in the morning for doing the best with anti-aging. I am training hard. I will soon begin with NAC for my health, take it in afternoon. I also take zink supplement in the morning.
Amazon, 1 kilo ($22)) coming tomorrow and weight training on Monday. Can't wait to try it.
I've been using it for a couple of years with my pre- workout.
I’ve used taurine to drop cortisol levels and calm the nervous system. I can’t say I’ve ever took it to speed up recovery and now keen to try it.
Did it work for calming your nervous system?
@@ERChris17 yes. This is used in Energy drinks to calm the nervous system to stop the caffeine jitters.
Thanks Tom
Thomas plz upload a video explaining about epicatechins and turkestanica which one is the best of the two
amazing! And no health problems with the heart or anything?
Love taurine! Great video.
So when would YOU recommend taking it and how much? I like your channel as well.
Great to see you here Mike!
One thing I realised after healing 50% from some form of health crisis followed by massive swift weight gain
Hormones!!
About to embark on Desiccated adrenal and also bovine thyroid. I am exhausted. Can’t even drop weight on Carnivore. Something huge has broken and all the supplements in the world won’t be enough on a broken metabolism
I am convinced that resetting to how I was when my metabolism was fast will result in more energy and therefore less opportunity to eat.
Taurine is great and it has a lot of health benefits
Can't use taurine. Causes chest pain, wonder why? Ask if you know a cardiologist.
I do alot of running. taurine is def one of the supplements I take weekly. It helps with my sleep and recovery. The days i forget to take it, i am sore as hell.
Hello there 👋💚
I run too. May I ask how you take your Taurine? How much? When? With what?
I take taurine every morning. I am 79 years and I am running hard but not every day. I have better speed than last year. Time for redovery is longer but results are promising. I also am taking NAC and glycine but not in the morning.
thats y i drink the 0 sugar monster energy drinks - the ultra strawberry and mango fiesto taste great w Taurine being the 3rd ingredient, after water and citric acid - also they help extend a fast an extra hour or so by filling you up, plus caffeine - be interesting to see some studies on those since they're extremely popular now.
Youre break the fast by drinking it. Contains sugar substitutes and plenty of sodium.
@@michaelkim4703sodium does not break a fast
@@michaelkim4703 well yeah technically that's correct but I jus meant it helps postponing actually eating something for an hour or two longer in the morning
@@michaelkim4703monster has zero sugar. Idk if that's bad for you or not but it's out there.
Great video. Big believer in taurine!
Ive been taking taurine for 4 weeks and believe me - just as a pre-workout supp it increases my output on all measurements by 10% - when you take into account the other physiological benefits its well worth considering.
You every try L-Arginine? It helps with circulation.
@@hotwheel6663 try
L-citrulline malate
@@hotwheel6663 Just use Citruline. L-Arginine sucks.
Do you take at a specific time before a workout (right before, hour before)? Thanks
@@hotwheel6663 I take both taurine and l-arginine before a workout.
I've been taking 3g of taurine per day for years, the health benefits are wonderful
Up to 6g for maximum benefits
Use to take it decades ago with Vanadal sulfate. Great pump combo but haven't used it in a decade
I am so glad I came across this comment and learned of an ingredient I have never heard of. Did some digging and I see the only company that uses Vanadyl Sulfate in their pump formula is Old School Labs, a company I am fond of. Seems like it could be a hidden gem that not many people know about. I went to Vitamin Shoppe to pick it up and all 3 bottles were dusty as hell and set to expire in 8 months. Gonna give it go...always down to try new pump-based ingredients!
Taurine helps with sleep as does glycine. I always wonder why people don't also list in their videos the best time to take such nutrients. Would go a long way to round out the video. TD when would you say is best for timing?
Helps with sleep and they put in RedBull 😮?
@@DebbieTDP Yup, it isn't stimulatory like sugar or caffeine.
@@DebbieTDP They put it in red bull to relax and calm the nervous system after ramping it up.
Best sleep I have had in a long time with my nightly dose of 1 gram. I had been taking a ZMA for a long time which helped a lot but the addition of Taurine it took it to a new level.
@@DebbieTDP Yes....the stimulants in Red Bull have zero to do with Taurine. Taurine is not a stimulant.
Whats the best form to take
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I do 1 grams morning, 1 gram evening. With a little drink on a emtpy stomach.
I use Celcius for my pre/intra lifting drink. It helps so much, and it does have taurine in it too.
Celcius contains sucralose or aspartame I believe. I'd avoid it
Ooohhhhhh, totally forgot it had taurine. Celsius is great, I was taking it for the 2-300 mg of caffeine for half marathon + runs, the citrulline and other vitamins. It's taurine content prob tops out at 1 gram, need more than that. I will add 4-5 grams of taurine on top of that.
@@johnkap5740 they tested aspartame by overdosing mice one it. equivalent of giving someone 5kg a day of the stuff alone. If goal to drop calories but still drink sweet stuff then the gains to health by cutting calories massively over shadows any risk to health of aspartame. Covid and the Vax showed us you can't trust these big corporations with ur health and everything has chemicals. fruit and veg all grown for bulk and flavour and insect resistance not nutrition. also the fact gov happily letting cost of living get out of control shows me they have zeros concern for your well being. Seems like mass Munchausen by proxy. keep you sick so they can say you need them. 2 major vax injurys of adults in my family who are all were healthy and my family is small. The vax minimal benefit and wears off in 3 months yet they mandate it and don't promote andy immune boosters when poor imune the leading cause of hospitalization. ALLL doctors advocated it when they should have gone on strike as saw what lockdowns and vax was doing to the 100s of patients they say every day, let alone close relationships. Nope don't trust em, follow the money.
Celsius gave s me kidney stones.
Its the most aide effect energy drink ever had
Ok it's time to order some taurine 😂
So is the same logic true with glycine? Should we take days off from supplementing glycine?
What kind of brand do you suggest?
What is the Taurine source?
Thomas if not the delight of you visually. Or my proud already having guessed right the Taurine at the beginning. Then for the discussion topic at hand. You are marvelous encouragement. Solid guy adapting, evolving that's my sh!t too.
Thanks Thomas. Hi to the crew and family.
Craig the toe-rag guy;)
I’ve been taking it daily for a while now for its anti-aging properties that are coming out in studies. This is now an added bonus! I’ve been taking 2.5g per day but may increase to 5g over time.
Increase to 5 immediately
@@ryanrogers8211 Have you seen benefits at 5g?
Taurine is essential in cat food
How are your claws working?
I take 2-3g of taurine before bed and I'm out like a light and sleep sound even though usually a light sleeper.
creatine gives me lots of energy but also makes me lost 1-2 hours of sleep even though i feel energize but i can see the lack of 8hr of sleep in my egg bags but i dont feel tire at all. maybe taurine can counter that for me but drinking even 1oz of water before bed (to help swallow taurine) makes me wake up at least 3x at night to pee
I get my Taurine from Thorne vitamin company. But you can also get it from Life Extension and Super Supplements.
Does it make you lose weight
@@sedrasedra9949 no, but I guess you would be a little more mellow going through a diet
Why consumption od taurine and caffeine št teh same time could be problematic? (Energy drinks)
So what supplement would increase capacity to sprint and such?
Water, fruits high in electrolytes 🥝
But at the end of the day genetics will determine how fast you can sprint 🏃🏾♂️
Does it lower your blood pressure
I take 3 grams divided everyday which helps tremendously with migraine frequency!
So it helps endurance
So how do you get this supplement
Interesting. I just had a Nutreval test done and was well out of range on the high side with taurine after supplementing with a product that has both taurine and glycine. I was told to stop taking taurine. Hmmm.
Shouldn’t be high tho. But not to stop taking it
I have an enlarged prostate. I started to take 500mg. pill every day and noticed it made my urination worse. Now I try to take it in the morning. Not sure if there is a correlation. Any opinions out there?
I got amino fire but it only has 125mg taurine pre serving :(
Was always a little sceptical about taurine.
One of the ingredients in most energy drinks.
They put it in energy drinks to temper caffeine jitters so you will drink more.
That's a fallacious reason
I wonder how this works for those of us with exercise intolerance. 🤔 I struggle with having flare ups of my autoimmune disease when I train to hard and I suppose this could help (albeit potentially) to mitigate that response.
Train with the MAF Method. Read In Fitness and In Health by Phil Maffetone. It's out of print but you can find it relatively cheap.
Does prolonged fasting help with your autoimmune disease?
@@TheRogueJediiProlonged fasting has helped with autoimmune problems that I had. Without a doubt
Look into zone 2 cardio training. It is low intensity and is the best way to increase mitochondrial density and function.
Wow me too. I thought I was alone with this problem. I have psoriatic arthritis and after working out, specifically 2-3 days after, I have massive flare up’s to the point where it is more painful then what it was before working out. So now I don’t or barely workout
Nice shirt
Could be used in a meso during peak week. 💡
I have a supliment that would love to hear your analysis of (shilajeet) Himalayan mountain resin ,a good one has 85+ minerals and would make for a very interesting video.The energy and sex drive results are out of control so could be doing something for testosterone which is highly desired for motivation and exercise.
I have been using Creatine off and on for over 35 years I stopped a few months ago because I did not notice any results that I was looking for although I gave it an honest test...Methylene Blue blows all of them in the weeds 8 months so far of daily usage 1-3 drops a day @65 I can train 5-6 days a week (Table Tennis) without the extreme muscle soreness prior to this I could only train hard 1-3 times a week. I also use other supplements, but the methylene Blue is the only one that is standalone noticeable.
There’s a place called Prime IV close to me that offers Taurine shots for about $25, less if on sale. Is that a better delivery method or should I stick with dietary?
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25 dollars for one single taurine shot? That's ridiculous. You can get a whole 500g bag of taurine for a third of that price and have a 5g taurine shot every day for 100 days.
It’s a scam. They say because their giving it intravenous it hits better. The body can use however much the body can use.
I don't like taurine because it diminishes the effects of caffeine for enhancing performance, says a study from australia. This is why I hate when they put it in pre-workouts. Ok, perhaps if you take it in the morning and exercise much later in the evening, you will be fine.
If I’m taking HMB is Taurine redundant?
No, HMB is a metabolite of Leucine. And it takes a lot of Leucine to spike HMB to effective levels, so I would not say it is redundant either with Leucine. HMB is pretty much for cutting phases and not every study on it supports it’s use. Hope this helps.Ciao
Where would the supplemements industry be if people ate good quality food, meat and eggs and stayed away from processed food?
At what point during hyperinflation would you convert your SHTF cash reserves....and to what ?!
I take it to lower my blood pressure and it helps me sleep. My cardiologist put me on it. It supports Cardiovascular health.
so you take it at night?
Did you notice your bp numbers drop?
Supplementing taurine will only improve muscle growth if you are not getting as much of it as you are the 8 other essential amino acids. This is why research on its impact is very mixed. You’ll find just as good results optimizing your diet to include lots of sources of complete protein.
Taurine helps, but in terms of performance, ubiquinol is so much better.
Been using for years and only helps my restless legs at 2 rounded tablespoons plus I also need some other nutrients to stay clear of drugs offered by med pro.
Does it make you lose weight
@@sedrasedra9949 no.
Proper nutrition.
Taurine for longevity is much more interesting. See "Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging" in the journal Science.
When I open YT I see 17 videos of dudes in the woods camping in the rain and then Thomas rolls up about my daily health update. I always click on you first. 🎉
i know too much taurine can downregulatte gaba receptors. and then benzos does not work very well on you. i think is better to cycle taurine at least 2/3 on 1/3 of time off.
If you dose taurine high enough you probably don't need the benzos.
I would love to see a video on Cinnamon.
Can you add the articles on this comment section thank you
Gd videos ❤
Does taurine convert type I fibres to type ll ( slow twitch to fast twitch)?
Taurine gives me terrible headaches. I don't know why.
Can we mix taurine powder in water ? Instead of taking it in caps ? Or just under the tongue ?
yes u can...i mix taurine and Glycine 2 grams each in warm water before workout and i always nailed
@@wasimahmed1570 perfect, thank you.
I've discovered and tested that 3g/serving is the sweet spot.
I've been using this for a year now every day so I might alternate a bit more I guess. It's damn cheap indeed. And I've been going on the new data which has been very interesting.
I can't say I ever noticed anything positive or negative though, this kind of stuff is hard to really notice imo. You really need controlled lab settings and testing etc to know.
I just take it because it's cheap and it's supposed to do something :P
Taurine lowers serotonin, some ppl feel it, some dont. I did feel it and had to lower the dosage a lot bcs of bad mood.
It make me feel sick to the point of naseau and almost vomiting quite frequently. I stopped taking it and felt better. Went back on it. Same thing happened naseau came back. Took about 2 to 3 days but it happened. Stuff is ugh. It did help me with recovering and pain in lower back
I take 6g everyday.
No problems at all
Thanks to Harry Serpanos🙂
Great TH-camr! 💪🏻
Nori adds about 40 milligrams.
Can you get enough naturally from foods that contain it, or do you think supplementing is better?
Only from freshly slaughtered meat and sea food.
Thoughts on magnesium taurate?
Prices are freaking high but if you got the money go for it 🤗
Don't take magnesium taurate for the taurine. Just buy a bag of pure taurine, it's far cheaper and will have more taurine per serving.
I used Taurine up to 1 gram a day. It helps with pain and recovery. However, it started make me feel very naseous and I felt like throwing up especially at night. So I stopped. Its a shame because it did help me especially for back pain. But idk about doing huge doses of aminos. They always make me feel weird.
try to take with 1G GLYCINE AND 500MG OF NAC...it works lime charm
How long before bed? At least 30 min. I hope.
@@krane15 i took it in morning and in evening divided dose. I dont mess with that stuff anymore. Aint worth it
Taurine is the most abundant amino acid in the body, it has numerous health benefits other than improving performance. Where did this information of not taking it daily will cause desensitization come from? Also relying on antioxidants from food and supplements is better than not taking them. Don't you take some antioxidants on a daily basis?
As for taking it every day, older individuals (like myself) simply do not produce adequate amounts of taurine, so I take 1 gram each morning and one at bedtime. Thomas is probably spot on for younger people, though.
I only take it on days I work out.
I overtrained every day for years with an unbelievable amount of endless energy while maxed out on my supplements, taurine was a daily supp. & the dose was half the recommendation.
All natural with a clean diet.
45+ sets daily. Push, pull, upper & lower body + a walk & 12-24 mile bike ride.
Totally killing it until I tore my rotator cuff.
Been taking it easy for the past year & missing the hectic program.
I can't pinpoint the taurine as the magical component but I believe it was part of the success formula.
I am currently 53 and my blood work test last year was aligned with a 20 year olds readings
That mean you are on TRT since your testosterone is not lower than 20 year olds. Which is great but you either forgot to point that out which makes you sound like you are full of shit at this point.
45 sets??? Dude, you must use like 5 pound weights. You don't need to do that many sets to get results lol.
@@japan100100 Not going for results.
I was very bored & have lots of stand around time at work. Not light weight but always from heavy to light working to failure.
I over did it and eventually mess my shoulder up. Been recovering for 18 months & slowly getting back into a normal workout with 12-18 sets a day.
It is true that some people can push way harder than others. It depends on what drives you.
@@stevewenners Exactly same happened to me, but my cuff wore out from doing drop sets on every single exercise that I did. 2 year recovery and still now not fully recovered. Wouldn't dare throw a fastball pitch, still cant do dips or pull ups of flat bench.
our body creates creatine and taurine
so im worried that it might be that after consuming these self made proteins the body is like: "okay i dont need to make these myself, ill stop producing them" - and then what happens after you ran out of creatine\taurine for some reason? im quite skeptical
Redbull was what I used to drink to keep awake at work. I became really agitated, distracted, and unable to concentrate as a result. So for work, I'd continue to use coffee. However, it did make me realize that Redbull's taurine, which gives me a burning energy, is significantly better for working out and performing well in the gym.
The active ingredient if Redbull is caffeine. The Taurine help to mitigate the spike (smooth it out)of caffeine.
on a slightly related topic, if at all possible add 1-2 grams of taurine to your cat's daily diet - feel free to do the research on why this is a great idea for cats
Is it good for women or as good for women as it is for men?
its best for both
@@wasimahmed1570 thank you. What is your source?
Its really weird how supplementing with these "nonessential" amino acids like Taurine, Citrulline and Glycine (and tyrosine, for me) has such a positive effect
Because they reduce with age and even more with exercise.
how about using both together?
Yo
Thomas, this reminds me of HMB claims for muscle. But there's one thing I've never understood, why do we want to protect the muscle from breakdown when training? Isnt the goal of training to stress/tear the muscle in order to rebuild it and grow?
That was a really old model based on some guesswork. I don't think muscle damage is particularly helpful for building muscle. Maybe just a tiny bit to get some inflammation and a hormetic response, etc., but the primary mechanisms for muscle growth are probably elsewhere. It's like trying to build a brick wall taller but in the meantime destroying half of the bricks already in place. Now you have to spend energy and resources repairing all the old bricks you busted up.
Muscle damage is a good indication that you are approaching the limit of stimulus for the workout, not the stimulus itself.
It’s in Ghost
Man, I’ve been saying: when people discover taurine it will double in price
Take 5 grams of Taurine before bed. Do not take before or after training. Let the muscle damage recover to the stress without a supplement that would aid in the recovery process.
That doesnt make sense
Insomnia guaranteed.
Exactly insomnia 💯 I took 500mg before sleep and felt like I just woke up
Best takin in the morning since you want to be catabolic during the day
And anabolic at night that's why glutamine is good at night
On the frontier, We have shown that taurine administration at 150 mg/kg body weight decreased the DNA damage in overused muscles (Thirupathi et al., 2018). That is a huge amount Big guy. NCBI says .5 g·kg/BW/day that is a mega but load. Strength up muscle soreness down. Im not gonna try 60 - 65 Grams a day LoL!!
I do 2 hours exercise every day, and i take 3g of taurine a day. Its enough.
I think 2g a day would be enough to be honest.