The Maxxis Tire Wobble, is it common??
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- Tire wobble seems to be a rather common problem with Maxxis tires. In my case the Minion DHF. I re-seated the tire three times with plenty of soapy water but no change. The rim was checked on my truing stand and it is straight.
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The tire is not seated right on the bead. The tire doesn’t have a wobble it’s just that it’s crooked
😂 If I had a dime for every time somebody said that. Read the comments…
eastwood yes in some cases the tire may not be seated right or if you have tire inserts can also make it wobble but in his case and in my case and many other is an issue from factory nothing todo with the bead or if it was not install properly. and it seems to be a very popular problem with maxxis only. other company's that are no so popular dont have the issue and mine you have the the full package dhr 2 tuff casing terra cuz i tough the pros and most forums saids maxxis are way to go. but no im thinking they may have really good performance but the quality of the build ummmm not the best.
@@thomas_00001 try using soapy water to seat the bid correctly and a air compresor if you have if not remove the air valve to get the most air in with your air pump. soapy water can help alot when it comes to sitting the tire and take a close look to make sure you have the same amount of tire showing all around. follow the line the is above the bead to ensure is all even sometimes have some one else take a look and see if they can spot any defects but soapy water should help a lot put it all over the rim and in the bead. good luck
@@257sombra I had Tannus as well and took it out and the same wobble is there. I made sure all the beads are seated equally around on both sides and still wobble. Same tire Maxxis DHF 50 PSI.
@@ronelborromeo6013 It's the other way round. Your tires were fine before you installed Tannus. Tannus damages tires by uneven stretch during inflation. I destroyed multiple tires before I realized it was the insert. I proved it by first installing the tire without Tannus. Everything was fine. Then installed the insert. Wobble. Removed the insert. Wobble was there forever.
I had my Assegai mounted freshly last night. I never knew about a new tyre wobbling as I have fitted many many new tyres myself in the past and never had a problem. However, I realized that my new Maxxis Assegai has a quite a bit of a wobble which I struggled with all the possible ways to fix and then realized it a manufacturer fault which many others are experiencing.
Same result my bike shop came to😣
Very frustrating and disappointing when you buy fresh tread.
Have experienced this with Assegaiany times and it's so frustrating. I've used soap on the bead and high pressure and got all the pops but it still wobbles. Thinking of ditching Maxxis completely but I love the Assegai design. Though the WTB has a similar design
I have a set of Assegai mounted tubeless on freshly built up wheels (true). I see little wobble on both wheels, and I was wondering what was going on!
I had the same problem, 2 sets of maxxis pace for XC kevlar and wired. the installation was very thorough and carefully tried various methods from spraying soapy water to the pump slowly pulling manually on the beads, still wavy. tired of maxxis now move to another brand
Is there a solution to this problem? I had my new rims with tires installed some months ago. And recently I had a burb making both tires completely flat and when I went back home to inflate them they were both wobbly, a lot. I have a minion dhf front and a dhr2 rear both 26 inches. And all this time I thought that my rim width was too big for my tires
I experienced the same problem with my Maxxis Rekon Race EXO TR. When I returned to the store they told me that it is always difficult mounting the tire the first time. The did the job for me. It fits fine now.
Yes. I've been working for hours trying to remedy this on my Aggressor. I thought it was badly seated, took it off and put back on, took out the insert and tried with a tube. Then I decided to check the internet. Should have done that first. Thanks! Thought I bought a bum wheel, but its just the tire.
Same here. Thought they weren't seated properly or my wheel was out of true. Sidewalls have been sweating tyre sealant in the past year, presuming rubber started to weaken, but no other issues till I took a few birms a bit more aggressively and rear tyre made some weird vibrating noises. Presume some fibers got damaged under stress. Clearly, it's not normal for a new tyre to do this, but in my case the life expectancy seemed to be 12 to 18 months depending on use.
Are you running Dual Compound or tripple Compound hard Exo+ DHF? I had same problem with Dual Compound but not with the tri-compound newest DHF & DHR II DownHill Model.
Me too! New Marin San Quentin 3. Front tire. Thought it was rim too. Replaced with Vittoria Martello all good now.
This used to happen to me, especially with 4.8in tires. Check your bead all the way around. It’s good to check it every time you reseat or it will get annoying when you finish the job and it’s crooked
Same issue. How do I get a replacement
Yep... I've had the same issue with high roller, minion ss and dhr.. Indeed a common problem with Maxxis but apparently they prefer to replace your purchase rather than fixing the cause. All vendors are aware and they will replace the tire. The real problem is when you have to replace more than 1 time with the same vendor.
Nothing to do with the tyre not seated correctly, if that's the case you shouldn't fit a tyre at all. I've buckled the tyre twice now using minions. I like to take corners full on and ended up folding the tyre. It's pretty new aswell, it's ready for the bin 🤦♂️
New pair of DHR2s, same problem, so frustrating. Mounted 3 times with soapy water still wobbling like crazy, never had this issue with any other tire.
I think there has to be some kind of quality control issue. Maxxis needs to fix this or they will continue to lose customers
Upto now Maxxis aren’t addressing this wobble problems? I got the same problem. And Maxxis isn’t cheap
Thus has driven me crazy with 2 bikes.Always thought my wheel kept coming out of true and was getting really upset.Come to fine out it has always been the tires..Both have dhf and dhr.If you have to struggle to get this tire on your wheel it seems to stretch/warp the sidewall casing causing very noticeable tire wobble.I finally ventured out and put a WTB VIGILANTE on my bike and so glad I dropped maxxis.My front wheel has never tracked more straight then it does now with the vigilante.
I did everything to seat my tyre properly & it still wasn't right😂S t r e s s
I think you're onto something with the "stretch/warp the sidewall casing". I noticed the warp after struggling to get a Maxxis DHF on a new wheel with inserts.
@@smeekteek yea keep going around the tire and pushing it as far center as possible so you don't have to stretch the bead that much.Its a little harder to do with inserts but possible with some patience so you don't end up with that really irritating tire wobble.
I have had a slight wobble on a few Maxxis tires. Nothing to the extreme shown in this video. Sometimes reseating the tire bead with alcohol and massaging the tire with incremental pressure increases mitigated this.
Same problem. My rims are straight but tires still wobbling
Same here with DHR II 27.5 2.4 MaxxTerra, Not so strong like yours but still annoying. DHF 2.5 which I have on the front is fine. I think its mostly by those beefy tires (or grippier compounds). My stock High Roller 2.4 (hard performance compound) are OK. On my XC bike Recons are also super straight. Never had that issue with Schwalbe tires. Now I just leave it as it is as it does not affect my ridding, but next time I will return them for sure. Tip - just do the dry fit before you put the sealant in, you will save yourself cleaning before return :-)
Same problem with a Schwalbe Thunder Burt here. Also once send a Ralph back with this problem. Just ordered a Maxxis Aspen, i keep my fingers crossed…
Same but its on my wifes bike. Maxxis dissector 27.5x2.4 set-up tubeless. She is 120 pounds and runs it around 16 psi on mils XC trails here in GA. The tire was fine when first mounted but now 3 months and 12 rides later I noticed a wobble. Checked the rim on my truing stand and its true. The bead line is even all the way around. I guess its just a bad tire like all the others
Just got my truing stand today......to find out it was the maxxis tire all along, lol. Think the sidewalls maybe prone to uneven stretching, if you do have a good bead. Think I over inflated mine the first time trying to set the bead.
Just installed the DHR 2 on the front of my mtb today. I too have a very slight wobble, not as bad as yours though. My buddies MTB has the same issue.
I just mounted a minion dhf on a brand new wheel and it's got a dramatic side to side wobble.
This is the second Maxxis tire that I've experienced this problem with.
I have the same issue. Was wondering maybe my spokes not through. But no. It was tuned well. I've tried to fix it for couple of time but still doesn't work at all. I went to bicycle shop to fix it for me and still fucking wobbly. But what i noticed about maxxis tire was the more it get bald and you've to reinstalled back. Wobble will be lesser. I'm using 27.5x2.50 MINNION DHF.
Same issue here with DHF and the DHRIi. Both 29" and the 2.3 width. Never seen anything like it in 20+ years of riding. It is bad enough that it is noticeable catching air. Not happy.
I checked my tyres, I saw my front tyre was wobbly, but I saw bead was nicely set on the left on on the right it was too far in to the rim, so this twisted the tyre, I had to let air out and use tyre pliers to get the tyre true. The tyres I have on my bike now are not worn out yet, knobs are fresh, the tyres were fresh when I installed them.
Thanks for posting I'm going to have to try this..I got some conti trail king in the front that had alot of wobble. The rim looks true so I swapped the tire out and I get less wobble but still wobbles a bit.
@@manny_fit if you don't have this tool, just unseal the whole tyre. and redo it.
Had the same issue with the Maxxis Minion fat tires, both front & rear on my Radrover ebike.
I had this same issue, I felt violated every time I looked at my tires wobble. Now I run Vittorias!
So first time running Maxxis tires and my new Aggressor is wobbly damnit!!! Thought it was the rim but all true like yours even installed it on another wheel and tire wobbles. Did you find a fix or definitely just manufacture defect?
I gave up after many tries, just using it that way
Just installed the Minion DHR 27.5 x 2.6 and did get a slight wobble when first installed but after 2 min of riding tire is now perfectly balanced
I just noticed it on my bike a few days ago, (mind you I’ve had it 7 months, new bike) that I had a similar wobble on both my tires (same Maxxis tires) and I was told at my local shop that they are known to do that. Specially since I ride in a very rocky area. I was surprised and disappointed that a 7 month old tire would go bad. Does this sound correct to you guys, is it really normal for this or other tires?
I will admit that the tire on my video was used for about 4 months then replaced and stored then remounted. I can actually see the defect on the side wall now that I removed it again. To me this should not happen to a high end tire but it seems to be a common thing even with other brands. These tires do get abused
yes is the tire and its 2021 june and they all have some type of issue. but new tires hdr 2. im thinking is more because of fast production and also the walls will leak when in high humidity. i have bought dhr 2 dhf Assegai i have also the tan color walls for the hdr 2 and they all have some type of imperfection. i tough maybe it was because the tire was old from seating on the warehouse but after buying a brand new pair i notice the same issue. and yes i also so tough it was my rim so i took it to a shop in ny and the mechanic told me it was a problems from maxxis tires he also belive thats it could be a fast production problem.
Had exactly the same issue. Managed to get it better by lathering the bead and rim with washing up liquid and it seated better.
Better mean still wobbly 😃😃😃
@@dxbike101 yeah the quality control is shit! Im waiting for the new wild enduros to come out then swapping.
Exact same problem with Kenda 4 inch tire on Himiway ebike. I've been trying for 5 hours the soapy water and overpressure (60 pounds), so far without success. I note that the EXACT
same thing has occurred with previous tires of different brands. Usually a lot of time, soapy water, and overpressure will do the trick but not this time. At least not so far after 5 hours of trying.
Same as my Minion DHF 2.5 with EXO casing. Guess it's going in the bin but has a lot of tread left. I heard it's something to do with the casing becoming stretched or deformed.
I just switched back to my Continental Crossking last night and no wobble
@@TonyHob Managed to pick up some Michelin wild enduro's yesterday. I will avoid Maxxis from now on.
Having this issue at the moment with my DHF on the front. However it’s the same tire I already had mounted last season. I am not riding during winter with this bike. So after removing the tires (cleaning the dried tubeless milk) and mounting the tires again the front tire is wobbling but it did not last year. Also from the lines on the side its seated ok.
At the moment my question is not how can I fix the wobble? Its more should I even care?
Mine was the same situation. I remounted the tire to use on a more technical trail. I went ahead and rode it like that and could not notice it while riding. On close inspection there is a visible crease on one side of the sidewall. No problems after riding it though.
same here with maxxis high roller , i bought 2 of them both are wobbly..now it's getting worse..need to buy new pairs again..
Hey I have a wobble but then I took the tire off the wheel and I still have a wobble.. so the wheel must not be trued. I'm still working on it to get it trued hopefully wobble goes away
I have the same problem with a Maxxis Agggessor. It is as bad if not worse that the one in this video. YES it is seated correctly. Seems like the canvas is damaged permanently, got deformed by a dodgy sideways landing. It won't run true anymore. So obviously easy enough to damage the sidewalls in these.
Same issues with both my maxxis DHR 2. The DD is really bad and the other exo is little less.
Pretty late but yeah, have the same issue, just want to know if it's gonna be a problem running it with a wobble.
I didn’t really feel it while riding the trails
Just a bigginer, but bought the same tires, same problem, but Not knowing much a bout bikes, I thought it was my wheel. Now ,see If I can return them after the Amazon 30 days have expired. Yes, also saw a previous video with same brand of. Problem. Thanks.
I've had this issue on 2 of 4 Maxxis tires. An Assegai 27.5*2.5 has a slight wobble, ridable but really annoying as a front tire. A Minion DHR II 27.5*2.4 developed a significant wobble after just two rides. I did crash on the second ride so it may of weakened the sidewall or bead though. Initially it rolled true. Whatever the cause, I'm taking my business elsewhere now.
I went back to the Conti I had on it before, no more wobble
I have the exact problem. It started after riding an off camber trail. I'm only 165 and 59 years old so I definitely didn't "overstress" it. It was inflated properly. Tire fail for sure.
I later noticed a crease on mine's sidewall. I'm 53 BTW, but weigh 200lbs!
Did you pump the tube up to max pressure with plenty of lubrication in the rim? You said you put plenty of soapy water, but not that you overpressurized it to pop into place.
Yes, 50 psi, I have literally installed dozens of tubeless tires before without any problems
I'm having this problem with all my maxxis tyre (minion, high roller & refuse 2.0). Seems like it is a common problem with maxxis.
Had the same problem with Maxxis Assegai. My rims are true but the tires wobble.
Like mine. Its new and its wobbling ridiculous. Its annoying. Maxxis minion 27.5x2.50 front in my dh session 8.thats why return it back the stock tire bontrager and much better. How do i fix this. Any commendation pls.
It could be not seated right so you can try soapy water and an air compressor to around 50 psi. In my case nothing worked. Try contacting Maxxis, they should send you another tire.
Mine are brand new. Not as bad as yours, but similar. I do think somehow reseating the bead would fix it, but apart from putting it back on and pumping it up hard I can't figure out how to do that.
There’s several videos on it. Basically release the air pressure, spray the rim and bead with plenty of soapy water, then inflate up to the tire’s max pressure (usually around 50psi). If it’s not working then probably the tire.
@@TonyHob What about the sealant? I just sealed the tires. Can I add soapy water and the sealant won't mind? I really can't see any variations when the tire is on the rim, but I'm guessing small variations at the rim lead to larger variations at the tread.
I have it on one of the two I bought Minion DHF 27.5 × 2.5's gonna keep it saves messing around but it's a bummer...
I've been using it like this too. not noticeable on the trail
@@TonyHob gonna live with it just next time stay clear from Maxxis completely....
How did you get the white sticker?
On the fork? It came that way on the bike (2018 DB Release 4c)
Same with my DHR - it’s shame for Maxxis - cannot be solved
How about the old... deflate, wipe Dish soap and water around the rim and bead... pump to 50psi until you here it pop onto the rim proper?
😂 I suggest you read through the comments
I have just received my brand new commencal meta and I have the same wobble. Tyres have not turned an inch
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Same problem here, I'm using maxxis crossmark 2.
My grandson has Maxxis Agressor tires and his rear tire wobbles so bad we thought he had bent his rim put it on the truing stand and the rim was maybe 1-2mm out it was all the tire and it was so bad that the tire would rub the chainstay every time it went around! It was fine when we installed the new tires after Christmas but developed after a couple of months of riding.
Same with mine, developed that wobble after some time but plenty of tread left
@@TonyHob Just tried submitting a warranty claim with Maxxis we'll see how it goes! I tried everything everyone had posted as a remedy and none were successful to any degree, however while the tire was inflated to max pressure 60 psi the wobble was decreased a bit only to return when the tire pressure was lowered to 20psi and I left it at max pressure for 24hrs! it's definately defective!
My son had minion DHR on a bike we bought used the tires were pretty good when we bought the bike but wore out at the end of the season. He got a flat and I had to remount and it was awful. I aired the tires down to about 15 PSI and physically pushed them while on the bike to straighten them up they weren’t perfect but good enough to sell the bike. It was too small for him already. He loved the tires I would have bought new ones if keeping the bike.
I still like the grip on them and am riding it like this. Can’t really tell when riding.
I have Teravail tires with 700 miles . I did use 303 when new and they are in really good condition. I was going to shift to Maxxis just to try them because they are very popular but after seeing this no way. I remember I paid $10 for some wolverines WTB that didn’t do this and they had a bad wobble.
Time to use 303 once more...
I have to admit the Minions’ grip is great compared to my Continental Crossking Black Chili, but the Maxxis are heavy and the side walls are not as abrasion resistant.
@@TonyHob I see. That means the quality is not there as I thought. Tires are not near cheap, specially Maxxis. Thanks for all the info.
Same thing with assegai, did same thing on off on . Tried with a tube . Yep it’s the tyre
It could be that the tyre isn’t seated properly or the inner tube isn’t seated properly either on the wheel. If you have an inner tube deflate it take it out & put it back in so it goes in evenly try inflating it again.Hope that helps 👍
thought about that too but I already tried t reseat it twice. I might give it another try tomorrow. The rear is running straight.
I had this for years, but sometimes I had to reseat it twise or more, but also when tyre was used longterm, it developed warp, also bead fails. This has happen on all tyres i had in my previous bike, and now at new bike, so tyre øy last few months, usually I can use a tyre few months one year than the next, but idf I try to push it for whole season, it's wearing bead off and wobble is horrible. But I saw a video where a rider supported by an distrubutor of maxxis claims she gets about 5 months out of a tyre so that's about what I get I guess before it loses true. So I guess I am riding so hard and tyres get so much use I wear them fast but still use them bit longer than I should for optimal performance. So bead and the warping of tyres makes it horrible eventually, but otherwise the knobs are not completely ruined but start to rou d off, but I never managed to run one tyre so long knobs were almost gone, some do, but bead fails before that is possible for me.
Good point. These were original tires on my bike so they are over 2 years old and have been off the bike for over a year before I put them back on today..
@@TonyHob some are definitely defective, but I never had one that was 100% true but if it was bad I redid it and worked but, I've seen vids of worse wobble, but hats how the tyres look whe n I've used them for a long time. But I think I should try different brands too, I found Schwalbe to seat easier, at least Ice Spiker does but can be hard to remove but so can Maxxis be when sealant glues it I guess, but I can get them off anyway, so not an issue. I've not had warping with Schwalbe Ice Spiker tyres yet, I've only used them for few weeks.
I had this same issue.I bought it a week ago
Same thing here with a Assegai 2.5 DD and a Minion DHF 2.4 DD ... Can't believe this is happening on premium price tires. I've ran a couple of michelin wild enduro that are like half the price of Maxxis and they have never done that. Garbage
HOW DO YOU FIX IT??
Put a Continental tire on it instead and it was perfect first try.
Hand on my heart, I thought it was only ME!
I feel your pain 😂
Just noticed my back Maxxis wobbles a bit on my Stace. Anyone know if this will affect the ride? The bike is two months old--I'm wondering if this is a warranty issue.
You won’t notice it while riding. It really won’t affect the ride
@@TonyHob cool--thanks
@Tony's Hobbies so I can ride with my wobble? It makes a loud noise... notable noise.. or is it just me. I'm scared it'll pop off the rim dude. I just bought a minion DHF and I have a SLIGHT wobble in front.. but my old rekon I swapped to rear has a huge wobble. It's crazy.
I've just watched a video where a guy had the same problem he deflated popped the bead off run a sponge with soapy water around the bead both sides and put back on and pumped up and inflated tyre and you cld hear the pop of the bead snapping into place
I'm going to be trying this as I've recently installed mitchelin dh22 on my bike and I'm to am getting tyre wobble so gonna see how this goes
In my case I did all that already. On inspection the sidewall has a crease where the wobble is so I trashed it. Running a Continental Crossking without any problems now
Sort of ‘good’ to find this video and all the comments. Set up a front wheel Maxxis Rambler tubeless on my gravel bike… install seemed to go pretty swimmingly (my first time trying tubesless) but yesterday, 3rd ride I’ve made, could see it was out of whack. Not going to mess about trying to fix it… just need to not look down when riding.
It had been ok with a tube in.
My DHR II is more wobbly than my DHF but both wobble. Brand new rims and both tires are seated with soapy water so there's no chance that they're not seated incorrectly.
From what others have posted you should be able to get them replaced through warranty. In my case it was a tire that came with my bike and I had replaced for a year then came to find it wobbly when trying to re-install it. It was barely used though.
@@TonyHob that's the same exact thing that happened to me. I just put them back on my bike for the winter. Thank you I'll email them.
I'm having the same exact problem. First set was good second set no good at all
And one more … Maxxis knows … they know … but they are big corporation, as long they sell … you can see this aproach on many OG´s brands which think they are top of the world
Yup. Maxxis DHF Tire doing same thing after I added ARD insert. Surely Maxxis doesn't expect the consumer to have their tires installed by a professional installer. Pshht.
Not only maxxis....got wobbles on my hutchinson pythons 2 hard skin...used pure liquid dishwashing soap....front tire got much better...rear tire got some little wobbles left...well...i just got to live with it as the tires are brand new.
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i tried 2 tyres on my bikes 29'' and 27.5'', same problem on both. When they came ney on the rim it was perfect. Tried to go tubeless and I can't gat them straight anymore. i tried everything
welp, 2022 tire, same issue, guess a lot of us are on the same boat, dhf 27.5x2.3 maxx terra exo tr, hays
Did you replace the tires or just ride the wobble?
Rode the wobble for a while then replaced the tire. It really wasn’t noticeable on the trail. Riding a Conti crossking again, no wobble
Same issue with Assegai installed today. Smh
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Yeah so common. I converted my tires to tubeless yesterday and my tires wobble now. And the cause of it is too much force on your tire lever if I only have a compressor in my house I have done it myself.
Wow ive got it too seems like maxxis owe there customers an explanation
Same problem here,maxxis ardent race on a xcaliber 8
I got the same problem I bought maxxis ravager 700x40 and yeah I'm the one who is unlucky to have the defect tire pair.
Yeah I had it happen on my scooter after paying 90e and it made my tire go balled in 4 weeks I went and got a fat tire bike got a puncture last nite got tire this morning and again a wobble now not as aggressive as my scooter but a wobble non the less I think might be happening in transit the tire ring rim been bent out of wack
same problem with my maxxis ikon😪
Maybe you could try this, take the tyre off then fold the tyre inside out and warm it slightly with a hair dryer, fold it back to normal then put it back on the wheel.
Has anyone tried this? Does it work?
This has happened to me twice now, once with an aggressor and now with a dhr II
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Just bought them. Same issues
I got same problem with conti mountain king, trail king and now maxxis forecaster. Ofc wheel is true, tire is right seated. So my mech guy think that problem is with tubeless sealant. Maybe is to aggressive so it destroys tire casing. Now i try with different sealat and new tire, so will see after some time. If it will be same again, i give up and will ride without tire :D
Don't give up!
That is happened to my fresh DHR II, It's so disgusting and sad at the same time!
disappointing, specially for such expensive tires
@@TonyHob for sure!
Hello from Greece I have the same problem!!!!
Greetings!
It happened to me but I think its the I install it. Do not force it cause you will stretch it. You can install without a tire lever.
I'm with you. I've had some light whobble in the past on some Maxxis tires and now it was time to mount a new set of tires... The front has no whobble and a lever was not needed but in the rear it's got a warped spot, exactly there where I had to use a tire lever and bead is seated properly.
@@mijk69 I ruined 2 tires before I realized it 😑
These were installed without a lever
It caused of when you install the tire used tool, do not used tool, just open or install the tire by using hand manually...., its common issue for maxxis..if you used tool
Have you found the solution? I've been living with that wobble for over a year now.
I gave up after several times trying all the tricks. I just ride it like that
Same with my continental trail kings
It’s strange but Continental makes their tires in different places and different ways. I have a set off Cross kings made in India and another handmade in Germany. They both work well but you can tell the difference in quality, and price LOL
I had the same problem with an aggressor, maxxis sent me a new one right away, had to send them pictures and a video...
Just built a new wheel with a i9 hybra installed the maxxis dhr2 in the rear and i had the same thing dam i hate that feel
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Same problem!!!
More common with the white logo Oem tyres. Made in a different factory to the yellow logo.
Going threw same thing right now brand new dhf dd casing
It seems like they have serious quality control issues
@@TonyHob yeah I prob won't feel it down the trail hopefully it gets better riding it they sit long time folded on shelves
I got a new tires went with dhf again same thing but way less but still slightly off but old one gave me no problem lasted 2 seasons almost