Your voice is incredible man. One of the best voices I've heard in recent memory. So good. Keep doing things like this. Could literally listen to you talk about anything. Don't underestimate it.
@@romaosabandar5579 it’s shitty but they should’ve taken a break and talked to people in their support network and sought out professional help. Something else much deeper is going on mentally if you decide to do something like that over internet comments.
its a culture thats normalized it unfortunatley, even in western society, we reduce it from "deranged freak Ioser stalker" to "stan" eventually we'll get to this point too.
Sending death threats is already bad enough but targeting his family and friends is just way too much, like why are you targeting a person’s family for absolutely no reason and think that’s ok? Man hope Faker’s mental state is ok and his friends and family as well, poor guy already has a lot of pressure.
@@RaynorTheOne oof..have u watch lol tournament on twitch..and see how many toxic western hatin on faker?? Don't act like ur kind is any better..don't act like ur on the good side..be humble plz
@@xblastyolo It has nothing to do with your heritage or anything like that. They just happened to be western or asian. "Don't act like ur kind is any better". We are all humans. You have no right to talk like that.
Faker is what the League's community is supposed to be. I never saw him rage and he's playing rage inducing games (Jump King for ex.). He is the king for a reason like you said, He's not just a really good player but also a humble person.
@@williamchin5904 I think I understand what you are saying, but I believe instead of "energy" you would mean "issues"? I don't quite get what term would be best fitting, as I wouldn't quite go that far but maybe something like, "wasn't as good at controlling his temper," or something along those lines.
the funny thing is even if lol community was very positive, it can be still be manupulative. definitely check on youtuber upper ehcoleon gamer on about manipulation from riot games.
As people often say and what I agree with is that Riot is really lucky to have him as the face of the game (or game's eSports scene). He's such a good role model, such a humble person.
Online bullying, especially to the extent that Faker have and is still receiving, really need to be dealt with before things get really horrific. So many people die by either committing suicide becuase of the constant negativity and harrassment they receive or actually getting killed by some deranged online stalker. Also, those T1 "fans" are crazy, sending death threats to players and staff, even going so far as to dox them as well.
You know what's fucked up, too? This is scarily normal with Korean celebrities in general, and... honestly, when your life's put on the line, unless you're a police officer or a soldier, who signed up to take things like this, no one should have to deal with this.
@@slushyslushslushbruh Ikr, as a kpop fan, I have heard so much news about crazy "fans" constantly calling idols and even standing outside their houses. Especially with how high suicide rates are in Asain Countries, since mental health isnt really talked about as much and seemed to even be frowned upon. Hate comments can definitely take a toll on someone, especially as a influencer who is constantly exposed to such things.
Many people committed suicide but there is nothing in place to stop it. Especially because korea loves leaving kids alone. Sullie, the celeb mentioned in the vid, took legal action against couple ppl. One turned out to be a minor. Did the kid learn? Nope. Even if they fine 1k, not enough.
correct me if i am wrong , but every celeb will have chunk of people which hates them. its just what it is. korean people are just too sensitive i dont know how they will suffer EU and sea lobbies.
@@ajaysinghthakur7729 Have you seen Korean fans? Some of them even outright harass celebrities on-stage/in the middle of a live performance, even to the level of going up the stage.
He's been a victim of hate crime since he first won Worlds in 2013, that's nearly a decade of random and unspeakable hate. Not just he, but his family receives unwarranted death threats as well. He has been refined and classy all throughout, he doesn't speak out the way other well-known players do. This definitely has to be done, if not by him but by someone else for him. This will also benefit so many other people.
Nasty comments online are really bad and all, but saying it’s a hate crime is watering down the meaning of that phrase, and is pretty disrespectful to the people who actually suffer from it in real life.
@@s7robe297 ummmmm… if death threats to him and harassment of his family members are not hate crime, what would it be? Not to mention, someone sent a fucking “deadly weapon” to KT. I believe we can classify what fans are doing to LCK players as definitely hate crime. Not to mention, if you actually know faker, he’s a saint. You know it must’ve gotten really bad if he spoke out about it.
@@congbill5135 I remember saying intent to harm should be dealt with by legal authorities? There are cunts who send stupid death threats all of the time and the authorities can’t do anything about it because they don’t have enough to go off of. It’s unfortunate, but it’s the reality. Online harassment is a really shitty thing to do but it’s literally not a crime until there’s enough to consider what was said intent to physically harm or scam the person you’re harassing. You can’t be arrested for being a twat online…
It's worth noting that South Korea has incredibly strong libel laws, that definitely go a little too far in protecting the victim as it can be used to stifle free speech. But when it comes to death threats and harassment we need stronger laws in the West. On the flipside, imagine doing this shit and calling yourself a 'fan'
yeah like libel laws can go too far, but imo this is exactly what they should be for. this level of extreme cruelty and toxicity should absolutely be punished, and all the people saying oh its just online shit and its like, fuck off, that is still just as bad.
Sorry, we don’t need what you’re thinking of. We have channels to direct legitimate threats to harm or take a life, and they will all be handled very seriously. May I remind you that swatting exists, and is very common…
@@s7robe297 and is also used to ruined people's lives by doing a fake report on someone. Your country should really step it up because you're looking pretty stupid falling for prank calls to SWAT someone way too many times.
@@GoldRichness swatting would be more prevalent… and overly policing what people say works out right? Let’s not ignore All of the coup(s), riots, and civil unrest/wars in other countries due to them being police states. The west (I’m assuming you’re referring to North America specifically) is far from perfect, but it’s not as bad as people who’ve never been and only believe what they hear through msm and social media. Coming at freedom of expression/ freedom of speech is absolutely insane to me as it’s one of the best aspects of American culture.
Before anyone says that he's just butthurt and not a big deal, watch the video first and then realize that he's been enduring this type of treatment since 2015, probably even 2013 when he first rose up to fame. It might seem odd that he's suing his haters only now when it's already happening before but what's happening during his early days in the pro-scene is a lot more tame than how it is now. It's just regular criticism before with some talk shit like "Shaker" "Washed" "Old" etc but now he's being bombarded with death threats every time they lose or every time he plays bad. He's not just any League pro, he's the face of the league and his popularity in Korea is comparable to KPop artists that actually experiences the same as Faker (Stalkers, Paparazzi leaking their address, etc) and knowing how hard Korean fanboys/fangirls worship their respective idols, it wouldn't be a surprise that some people are actual psychopaths who feel safe slandering people behind the screens
Interesting take on this, and I completely agree. Alot of people look up to the famous and praise them like they're literal Gods, but quickly forget that they are still human. Faker is no exception, and I hate how he has to take this kind of action against these people. This shouldn't even be happening in the first place too. People go crazy over others, like Rockstar's and singers. I was at a fan meet and greet for the Lumineers and I just treated them like they were human beings. Even got to shake hands with Wesley. I asked him if he had run ins with any crazy fans and he replied "Absolutely, as a famous band, you're guaranteed to get those people." My point is that we should really just treat celebrities like regular people. They say that celebrities are not your friends, well change that. Become friends with them. Treat them like regular good people.
This is so true, especially since he doesn't seem to be the guy to get under his skin. I think that those who made those threats must've crossed the line to the point where it got to him personally.
People in the west that go on normal forums like reddit don‘t realize how extremely toxic online communities can be in some asian countries like Korea and Japan. I’m sure he ain‘t sueing people for calling him shaker or a bad player, but for some violent threats and defamatory stuff.
Yeah, the West may suck for a lot of things, but sucking at being a toxic online community is one thing I'll gladly take when "kys" or "cancer" jokes is the worst thing people can come up with. It's child's play compared to the religious internet zealots that the East has.
Korean 'fan' toxicity is some next level shit. I believe it's pretty bad in Japan as well, but if you saw this year's MSI, hosted in Busan, it painted a really clear picture of what the Korean fans were like. They cheered for T1 only when they were winning. They clearly hated China - despite the Korean announcer (who is an absolute legend at building hype) doing his best to hype up the Chinese players, they were insultingly silent. I know China had to play from Beijing, but they were still showing their racism there. The only time they cheered for EU was when they were beating the Chinese team. They weren't happy when G2 beat T1 in the group stage. The Busan library memes became a thing because of how deathly silent the crowd was when T1 wasn't winning. When T1 lost to RNG after a hard-fought 5-game series, the T1 players were met with total silence when waving to the crowd. Every other region that has hosted an event like that has been amicable in defeat, cheering on the victors even if they weren't the home team. EU cheered on FPX for their victory and supported G2 in their defeat in 2019. China cheered on for a Korea vs Korea final on their home soil in 2017. It must feel really bad for the Korean players for them to only be shown any appreciation when they're winning. Doing their best isn't enough.
@@midastheunwise2423 To be fair, in any other sport, fans wouldn't cheer for the opposing team either. I can understand not cheering for someone else. The clear toxicity is when they don't cheer for their own team just because they're behind or make a small mistake. Like a good play afterwards is negated by the fact that they have to catch up somehow and they still focus on the gold deficit instead of seeing that play as a possible turning point. It's practically comparable to an anime fandom.
@@Marrangutan You're probably right, but I always thought one of the nicest things about the 2019 worlds was that despite Europe's best ever hope for a 'legit' World title being crushed in a 3-0 defeat on home soil, the Paris crowd were still letting DoinB & co have their moment and politely cheering for their victory. It was very bittersweet as an EU fan, but I wouldn't swap that for that mentality for a more traditional sports one of us vs them. You're right about anime fandoms being similar though. It reminds me of Gabi in Attack on Titan. She's a genuinely great character that explores what happens when radicalisation and reality collide, but everyone hates her because she did a bad thing that made them sad, and refuse to acknowledge that she's in fact FAR more compelling than the person she killed - naming no names because I don't want to spoil it for someone random.
@@midastheunwise2423 I think one thing in the West is that we still watch the games or to see cool shit happening that we could try doing ourselves, and the storylines and who wins or loses is still secondary. Sure you'll have the typical fans who say things like "TSM are washed" or "West vs East skill gap" or whatever, but at the end of the day, we just want to see cool shit and can appreciate skill that we could try to emulate, no matter how hopeless that goal is. Hell, the West puts memes over winning at times. The East (Korea and China) is definitely much more prideful (save Japan who is just glad to be there). Shit about honor to the country and seeing your representative losing collectively has them feeling like that player/team is a blight on their nation. It's sad to see that we're all a part of the gaming community, yet have such different views around what should just be entertainment, win or lose.
Some ppl just dont understand just how bad Korean social media is. It's a warzone for celebs and a lot of people take it too far and go off the deep end
Faker doesn't deserve be treated this way . He's one of the respectable player of all time, he's nice to his community and org, doing this such thing to him is not acceptable whatever reason you can think of. I'm always and will be a fake'rs #1 fan even though I'm not playing League anymore. I will never forget the hype this man gave to us in a competitive scene that no one has ever pulled of. Saranghae Faker
One thing is taking insults for yourself, but there's a line if someone you care for gets involved in said insults. Good for Faker, let's hope he wins the trial.
Faker not suing toxic fans because he's "soft" it's because he's receiving threats towards him and his family. Even the staffs too. (Flaming and Threats aren't the same)
Faker is known for his title the unkillable demon king still he has human heart and emotions, everyone wants to enjoy playing video games but this hate they or we recieve was unacceptable.
Lots of commets here do not understand how far these toxic so call fans go. They create groups to organize hate trains on deliver their propaganda on forums. It's constant harassment. It's been going on for years. So, what would you do.
He also said in the interview that he did this to prevent it from happening to other players as well and i support him wholeheartedly, it's about time some parts of the esports fan community go outside and touch some grass
Some people in the comments are calling Faker being petty for taking legal actions, clearly showing that they didn't even watched the video yet showing how bad the situation has gotten for Faker.
watched the whole video, some people said mean things ohh noo. this ridiculous and weak and i have lost any little respect i had for the entire league community.
@@bryanjones3336 If you and your family received consistent death threats and your family were rightfully upset about it. Would you tell them to their face that they're overreacting and being "weak"? If so you're a damn bad person, I'm definitely someone who takes things like online harassment with a IDGAF attitude but when someone threatens my life or the life of my family or friends that's when I'm not dicking around anymore
@@bryanjones3336 then get out. You or we for that matter can’t possibly know every single thing that has been sent to him and considering there were death threats among the comments, it is a good thing he is suing them.
I stand with him! Nobody is free of criticism, but the kind of messages people send to him feeling safe because they think they're behind a courtain, are absolutely disgusting! Can't watch his stream with chat open, neither read what they say on twitter. It's just awful.
To elaborate on 2:15 Faker originally said he wants "minimum" punishment. These losers send death threats, slurs, and whatnot to him and his family and he wants the minimum. He can do exactly what those haters want to do to him and ruin their careers but he doesn't.
If you’re sending death threats to players because they aren’t playing flawlessly every game or aren’t winning every event then you need to look urself in the mirror and ask yourself why ur like this, and then proceed to sit on a cactus 🌵
Comments saying "man up", or "too soft" on this and other videos are ridiculous. It really is easy to speak when you haven't gone through it yourself. I speak Korean so sometimes I see Faker hate communities and there are no words to describe the content that goes on there. They literally don't regard Faker as a human being. To them Faker is just some "thing" on the Internet they can unleash their own self pity and anger at. On one side, I'm glad this happened. He has proven once again why he is such an iconic player and person by standing first in line against these keyboard warriors. They are going to get what they deserve.
Ironically, those same people commenting would call the cops if they received even half the type of threats that these "fans" gave. It's not just words to a player. Family was getting involved. KT was being sent actual weapons to their training facility as a threat. Yeah, go tell your family to just "man up" when they're receiving a bloody knife or a gun in the mail for being related to you, lmao.
yeah the korean communities when it comes to this shit are fucking massively insane right next to Japanese boards you would think the kpop and idol culture of japan would be a wake up for some but nah. None of the people saying this shit would last a day
One time I commented about a player getting affected by hate from fans and a person wrote “you’re weak. He’s not. He’s not getting affected. You are.” It kept my mind busy for a long while to figure out. Well day by day I understand more that, that person is a huge baby behind an unbreakable steel man painting. Another man also wrote “getting affected by the people on the internet is weakness.” Like we’re not human beings but machines with spesific modes. Man worse thing about gaslighting is it’s so hard to realize it.
@@gls3578 It's such a joke because anyone can say that when the attention isn't on them. These people don't even have anyone giving them a second thought as far as the public eye is concerned.
death threats aren't ok people, and shouldn't be legal but please everyone here... also think about what going too far on restricting people's freedom of speech does to your society, it's necessary to have some insults exist so everyone can still speak freely.
This is something that a lot of korean players deal with in all competitive games. Within the rhythm gaming sphere, a number of korean players have suffered extreme abuse, harassment, all for the sake of making them quit. As what I have heard, there are groups of korean players doing organized attacks to mentally destroy top players, in hopes they quit and "get out of their way" so to speak. It's unbelievably disgusting, and I am excited to see T1 put the nail to horrible people that do this.
Lowkey the title is a bit misleading and commenters are getting the wrong idea - just a heads up to ppl about to comment "man up" "how is this a big deal" etc. it's not just people sending a hate comment or being rude. It was criminals sending real death threats and tracking down the players family members and harassing them. The criminals also sent them disturbing images, and a box containing a deadly weapon to the company. So its not really "toxic fans" more like "actual criminals" lol
I don't know if I'm high or this dude has really nice eyes. I'm gonna go with both. But I am sorry to hear that people can't stop being nasty to folks. Faker doesn't deserve that, nor anyone for that matter.
Honestly, I can't believe how this is a "regular" behaviour in korean culture. I thought that the korean dramas on Netflix, where women where constantly harassed between each others, and how they are also harassed at work due to their toxic cultures, that these were just that, dramas. Incredible to see that people in korea feel entitled to judge and criticise other people just because they are either someone you know, or a public figure.
Yea bullying culture is horrible in Korea. It’s especially prevalent in schools. Whenever it comes out that a popular celebrity or public figure has bullying allegations it is a huge deal because of how awful that label is and usually means these people have participated in physical and mental torture of other people.
Sometimes I miss the world before the internet and social media. Armies of teenagers without fully formed brains didnt have the power to just say whatever they wanted to anyone at all times in a space where you often dont have any notion of age, mental health, etc.
This just shows how toxic (not all ofc) koreans can be, which is also present even in the k-pop industry edit: Glad they did mentioned the same toxicity that's present in the k-pop industry, which did result to some k-pop idols taking their own life.
It's not the Koreans themselves, it's the agencies. Korean agencies of eSports, dramas and especially kpop exploit, verbally and emotionally abuse, and garner toxicity towards their talents them selves. The fans only perpetuate the toxic actions of the agencies themselves towards the stars. Because if the company can do it, why can't they? That reasoning alone is disgusting but it's even worse when you realize these stars are allowed to sue fans over this but not the agencies.
Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't it the chinese forums that have been hating on him because he called out the toxic chinese players. He's pretty well loved in Korea and if my memory is correct this started because some crazy haters in china made offensive post about his family during mother's day
@@muufle i have to disagree, the gaming industry will never reach the toxicity of the kpop industry and not many companies can get away with abusing the players. Especially players with good skills and a stable fanbase. For an idol, skills doesn't matter if you don't have anything to back you up, that's why even when many idols are crazy talented, they can still be manipulated.. But for a pro gamers, their skills are valuable, it doesn't matter if their old agency is trash, as long as they're good they could find another oppoturnity worldwide. Edit: the pro scene's issue has always been the fanbase and the community, this game already has an agressive and negative community, it's only worse when it's a competitive sport
I'm happy to see Faker taking these people to court. Make examples out of them because as Mike Tyson once said, "Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."
I remember watching Faker’s father's interview, he said he wished Faker would retire because of the toxicity thrown at him. Does Faker need to constantly prove himself for people to criticize him this much? It's not like other players beating his records or coming close to what he achieved. He is still the one beating his old self glories.
South Korea has the 4th highest suicide rate amongst all countries. The amount of online harassment that goes on in SK is crazy. I know back in February a twitch streamer by the name of Jammi95 self-deleted after getting harassed, which was going on for what seemed like a couple years straight. I don't know the details of why she was getting harassed but I know it's been going on for quite a while, even having a few mental breakdowns on stream.
What most toxic league players don't know, is that they can literally be sued and serve years in prison, get a good lawyer, you shouldn't take harassment and death threats and ignore it. Sue them for cyberbullying, cyber harrassment, cyberstalking, death threats, online abuse, etc etc etc. Not only do you make some great cash, you can send them to prison (or even a mental institute if they have some undiagnosed disorders)
Faker is one of the nicest legend i've ever seen and that's why I love him, so no matter what happened I will always be his fan, no matter what others will say.
I saw a comment saying that Faker has been nice for too long and this is my take, I hope this can reach to more people than to just reply to it, giving it more popularity. I don’t think being nice or stop being nice has something to do with online abuse. Confronting abusers and speaking up to yourself, trying to cease the harm that’s being done to your family is stopping being nice? Ignoring it is being nice? I don’t think there’s black or white here. Nor good nor bad, it is something that has to be done. What a terrible take and maybe it tries to be funny, it just wasn’t for me I guess. Can’t believe it has got so many likes too. Thanks for reading.
How are they saying "I'm a T1's fan" and yet they send death threat? You might as well say "I'm a T1's hater". Fans are supposed to support their idol, not the other way around.
i bit of hate is not bad, but habitual hate is a problem, cause its an obsession that is dangerous, a little of anything is not bad, but stack it and things get horrible
He has all rights to do this like for real if you hate him hate him all you want just dont type something that will push him to his limits that he would sue you cuz of it take responsibility 😅
@remembertomorrow So if you're rich, it is fine to be subject to all abuses online including to family members but if you're poor it is suddenly not fine? Adding the whole millionaire thing in there does not change the fact. Insulting a player and their plays? Fine. Harassing the player's family member? Why? Edit: Not to mention past doxxing and death threats
Sadly, it's not as surprising as it should be to see such vile behaviour coming from the League "community". Toxicity has been tolerated and actively supported by Riot for too long, allowing such extremes to happen in the first place. I hope the Korean judges set an example and add a few zeros to that 700$ fine. Harassment like this needs a precedence case that makes ppl think twice about sending death threats online.
You don't even want to know what doors that kind of thinking opens, but it's most certainly interesting to see which way cyber security moves towards next. 😂😂😂😂
when you're one of the best players in any game and getting treated by your die hard toxic fans who are willing to do anything to make you play like the prime of his/her form then that's not supporting anymore.
I like how people in the comments are saying it's just "words". Easy for you to say sitting in front of your PC not having any sort of presence in the social world; not like your family and friends are being targeted. Once you reach the level of Faker's popularity, then you will realize how difficult it is to face haters who come after your friends and family. Maybe think about how Faker feels when his family or friends are being targeted than voicing out how you feel about this issue.
True. It's not "just words" when these so called fans are already taking actions to it by doxxing. When they have the information to his family, they have the chance to carry out their death threats. Faker's grandmother will not be able to defend herself if someone were to attack her. All it takes is 1 crazy stalker with a weapon and he might not see his family member again.
Faker is like the nicest, most humble, and friendly person in League. how anyone can hate him is beyond my comprehension. he is like the perfect example of what a pro esports player should be. professional, hard working, and loyal.
Wrong mindset bud. Disrespecting anyone is a sht thing to do stop putting people on this pedestal as if that's the reason why you shouldn't disrespect them.
Absolutely, also people that are protesting shouldn't hide behind a screen right? Every country should become like china, that as soon as you mention anything against the government your life is ruined, right? Clown take.
@@BenDover-mx1wq Are u fucking stupid? Faker isn't a goverment to compared with, and his life and family is being threatened. You think that is still ok?
There’s gonna be a lot of kids here who don’t understand South Korean culture and the actual context and legitimacy of some of these situations. South Korea’s laws about these situations are very different than ours for better or worse.
It's unacceptable to find those disgusting comments which make him mad that he will sue them. I also hate their comments to the eSports community which is uncomfortable and it needs to be arrested at all costs.
I do not understand wasting energy on hating someone, I understand that people can get satisfaction from reactions of the target but faker hardly ever reacts to such thing. Then why, you must be really twisted to do something like this.
this is actually such a big step as people online tend to forget that real people exist behind all those screens it’s not just a video game things you say hold meaning .. good on faker to stand up for himself 🐐
Good. You should be held accountable for your actions online. Harassment should not be tolerated. Faker’s actions will help change the mentality of netizens.
I'm opening up a bottle of my lovely collection to drink into this. No one should endure this kind of harassment due to a video game. Cheers to everyone! Hope they get all of these guys to pay up or serve jail. I would love to see reports of these people getting into court.
@@Reddit2 if they are crossing lines and the law can prevent that, why not? Unless you are one of people that harasses another and think its okay because its online, I don't see why you are againts someone protecting their own mental health and their families. I don't want to argue on this simple topic. That wine was nice. Good day
@@Reddit2 so you didnt watch the video and just thought this harrassment is along the lines of "Faker sucks" "Faker bad" or "Shaker". Watch it so you can understand what harassment I am talking about.
His former support Wolf even called him a saint for enduring the inting he was encountering because of bets for his soloQ games for so long before talking about it so imagine that unspeakable harrasment on top of it. Many would have just retired to make it stop...
I get a little bit of toxicity but that's when your in game and calling each other shit but when you start trying to hurt people etc that's when you need to put a stop to it
Obsession in Korea is another level, how can they do that kind of bad thing to a person who undoubtedly the greatest of all time League and org who make their region famous. Absloute disgrace
Hey guys, why do you guys pick white as a main color... my eyes is burning when I'm trying to watch this at 4 am.... plz be consider of picking darker color schemes
Korea is fucked man the country failed to do anything about literal sexual assault in school systems until the creator of squid game made a movie about it
I never knew about Korean culture and stuff till 2 years ago and was shocked by the fact that how toxic they are. I occasionally play on EUNE, TR and RU and always thought that no server could be more toxic than these servers. I was so wrong and the worst part is that it's not just LoL players. Their internet culture (users) is toxic to its roots. How it all started? Can someone fill me in?
Some people here would say that "Faker is a celebrity so he should expect haters." but hate on the man and do not bring the man's family especially his mother. Such things should not exist anywhere.
you know what comes to mind for stuff like is "stick and stones my brake my bones but words will never hurt me" i was told this from a young age and trust me words only hurt you if you let them get to you. just brush it off and move on. and yes i was bullied a lot in school but i never let it get on top of me and just got on with my life.
the gaming community is so toxic, fans harrasing players, gamers being sexist towards female commentators and players, its shameful and ridiculous honestly
Personaly I think that half the reason people hate and search for reasons to trow salt on him is because he proved the belief about only very young players (17-24) can do well in e-sports wrong. Only young players can be pro-level good was marketed for a long time and yea, most players fall off but Faker proves it's not a skill or reflexes that fall of but the players just grow tired of the pressure, 'fan's' hating them and just generaly they grow boored with the game. This man crushed the excuse of being "too old" while people play badly. The reason e-sport teams want boys from that age-range is mostly for marketing. But Faker, this man is a legend ( some game comentary: "form is temporary, Faker is forever"). Wish him all the best, as many years in pro as he wants, some peace of mind too.
This kind of toxicity is supported by the “if you’re getting affected by these then you’re weak.” kind of toxicity. I remember making a comment about how esports players are getting affected by insults and a guy replied “that’s because you’re weak. He’s not. So he’s not getting affected. You are.” Took me so much to figure out if it was natural or if it’s just me who got affected by these stuff but hey turns out he was gaslighting. So sorry for him and his pityfull life that he has to pretend as “big and strong steel man”
Now we know why his performance was off yesterday against KDF. If you look at the end in game 1 after they lost, Faker stormed out of his seat without interacting with the camera. Now it could just be him trying to get to the vod review room faster, but when you look at his performance in 3 of those games. You can't help but think that he must have a lot on his mind coming into yesterday's games.
Faker's the chillest person and I think the normal things said like "you're trash" is nothing to him or any other player, that's a normal trashtalk. But being a public figure and getting violent threats is a different matter. You'd actually start feeling paranoid specially to this day where people can get information about you online and people are more crazy than ever you just can't expect what they would do. So I think legal actions are actually a good call. Also, koreans should really be more grateful T1 alone have represented korea and won 3 times, can't they just appreciate it and support them.
On one hand, the adult in me whose' been using the internet since I was a little kid finds the idea of "Someone was mean to me on the internet, I'm gonna put them in jail!" ridiculous and absurd; However, on the other hand, it's reasonable and a refreshing idea that when someone goes way too goddamn far that they can be punished within reason. That, and I'll agree with a lot of league players and fans, I'm sure, that Faker's a nice kid and doesn't deserve to be treated poorly.
It's not about "someone was mean to me ln the internet". You put little gravitation to what transpired as to why t1 org decided to go this route. " doxxing family members, friends, death threats, sending inappropriate photos and deadly weapon to their home and building". That's not an immature keyboard warrior would do but actual dangerous fanatics.
Kr laws also lead to stuff like Jim Jong-Kook feeling empowered to threaten legal action on people saying completely reasonable things, like that he's almost certainly on PEDS. Sometimes, it's healthy, other times, it's protecting the reinforcement of unhealthy body standards. South Korean body building culture and body image stuff is considered to be incredibly toxic and unhealthy in any number of ways, and while their laws protect some people from harassment, they're also protecting unrealistic standards that are negatively effecting others.
Small correction from me: I said T1 have only missed out on Worlds qualification twice when it's actually been three times -- 2014, 2018 and 2020.
Also you stated they have been eliminated from the playoffs which is not true.
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@@Mr-fe5ng I said they were eliminated from the 2020 playoffs.
Yea, get it right! Just kidding, great video.
Your voice is incredible man. One of the best voices I've heard in recent memory. So good. Keep doing things like this. Could literally listen to you talk about anything. Don't underestimate it.
It’s not uncommon for celebs in Korea to sue their crazy fans. Faker has been nice for much too long.
I guess assholes exist in every country in the world
Oh wow. Good context
Slayers Boxer's wife who is a celebrity is very well-known for suing people who leave toxic comments. Almost nobody messes with her anymore.
I thought this was just a ridiculous plot point in KDramas. TIL.
@@romaosabandar5579 it’s shitty but they should’ve taken a break and talked to people in their support network and sought out professional help. Something else much deeper is going on mentally if you decide to do something like that over internet comments.
If you call yourself a “fan” and do this stuff you are truly inhuman.
I doubt any of those harassers can be called fans. People that hatefull and deranged arent fans of anything.
They are Koreans. Enough said
It's more like "anti-fan" tbh
first time meeting SASAENG?
its a culture thats normalized it unfortunatley,
even in western society, we reduce it from "deranged freak Ioser stalker" to "stan"
eventually we'll get to this point too.
Sending death threats is already bad enough but targeting his family and friends is just way too much, like why are you targeting a person’s family for absolutely no reason and think that’s ok? Man hope Faker’s mental state is ok and his friends and family as well, poor guy already has a lot of pressure.
I mean a death threat is already way to much
Asian mentality.
@@RaynorTheOne oof..have u watch lol tournament on twitch..and see how many toxic western hatin on faker?? Don't act like ur kind is any better..don't act like ur on the good side..be humble plz
@@RaynorTheOne That mentality is borderline insanity. Those people's heads needs to be checked.
@@xblastyolo It has nothing to do with your heritage or anything like that. They just happened to be western or asian. "Don't act like ur kind is any better". We are all humans. You have no right to talk like that.
Faker is what the League's community is supposed to be. I never saw him rage and he's playing rage inducing games (Jump King for ex.). He is the king for a reason like you said, He's not just a really good player but also a humble person.
in his hay day in comp he really had anger energy (understandably when championship at risk)
@@williamchin5904 I think I understand what you are saying, but I believe instead of "energy" you would mean "issues"? I don't quite get what term would be best fitting, as I wouldn't quite go that far but maybe something like, "wasn't as good at controlling his temper," or something along those lines.
the funny thing is even if lol community was very positive, it can be still be manupulative. definitely check on youtuber upper ehcoleon gamer on about manipulation from riot games.
i'd rather have rage than boring shit like LCK
As people often say and what I agree with is that Riot is really lucky to have him as the face of the game (or game's eSports scene).
He's such a good role model, such a humble person.
Online bullying, especially to the extent that Faker have and is still receiving, really need to be dealt with before things get really horrific. So many people die by either committing suicide becuase of the constant negativity and harrassment they receive or actually getting killed by some deranged online stalker.
Also, those T1 "fans" are crazy, sending death threats to players and staff, even going so far as to dox them as well.
You know what's fucked up, too? This is scarily normal with Korean celebrities in general, and... honestly, when your life's put on the line, unless you're a police officer or a soldier, who signed up to take things like this, no one should have to deal with this.
@@slushyslushslushbruh Ikr, as a kpop fan, I have heard so much news about crazy "fans" constantly calling idols and even standing outside their houses. Especially with how high suicide rates are in Asain Countries, since mental health isnt really talked about as much and seemed to even be frowned upon. Hate comments can definitely take a toll on someone, especially as a influencer who is constantly exposed to such things.
Many people committed suicide but there is nothing in place to stop it. Especially because korea loves leaving kids alone. Sullie, the celeb mentioned in the vid, took legal action against couple ppl. One turned out to be a minor. Did the kid learn? Nope. Even if they fine 1k, not enough.
correct me if i am wrong , but every celeb will have chunk of people which hates them. its just what it is. korean people are just too sensitive i dont know how they will suffer EU and sea lobbies.
@@ajaysinghthakur7729 Have you seen Korean fans? Some of them even outright harass celebrities on-stage/in the middle of a live performance, even to the level of going up the stage.
He's been a victim of hate crime since he first won Worlds in 2013, that's nearly a decade of random and unspeakable hate. Not just he, but his family receives unwarranted death threats as well. He has been refined and classy all throughout, he doesn't speak out the way other well-known players do. This definitely has to be done, if not by him but by someone else for him.
This will also benefit so many other people.
Nasty comments online are really bad and all, but saying it’s a hate crime is watering down the meaning of that phrase, and is pretty disrespectful to the people who actually suffer from it in real life.
@@s7robe297 ummmmm… if death threats to him and harassment of his family members are not hate crime, what would it be? Not to mention, someone sent a fucking “deadly weapon” to KT. I believe we can classify what fans are doing to LCK players as definitely hate crime. Not to mention, if you actually know faker, he’s a saint. You know it must’ve gotten really bad if he spoke out about it.
@@congbill5135 I remember saying intent to harm should be dealt with by legal authorities? There are cunts who send stupid death threats all of the time and the authorities can’t do anything about it because they don’t have enough to go off of. It’s unfortunate, but it’s the reality. Online harassment is a really shitty thing to do but it’s literally not a crime until there’s enough to consider what was said intent to physically harm or scam the person you’re harassing. You can’t be arrested for being a twat online…
@@s7robe297 another r*tarded take from you.
he isnt a victim of any crime and never has been stop using made up words
It's worth noting that South Korea has incredibly strong libel laws, that definitely go a little too far in protecting the victim as it can be used to stifle free speech. But when it comes to death threats and harassment we need stronger laws in the West.
On the flipside, imagine doing this shit and calling yourself a 'fan'
yeah like libel laws can go too far, but imo this is exactly what they should be for. this level of extreme cruelty and toxicity should absolutely be punished, and all the people saying oh its just online shit and its like, fuck off, that is still just as bad.
Sorry, we don’t need what you’re thinking of. We have channels to direct legitimate threats to harm or take a life, and they will all be handled very seriously. May I remind you that swatting exists, and is very common…
@@s7robe297 and is also used to ruined people's lives by doing a fake report on someone. Your country should really step it up because you're looking pretty stupid falling for prank calls to SWAT someone way too many times.
@@s7robe297 oh sure, how’s that worked out for the west? Disastrous isn’t it?
@@GoldRichness swatting would be more prevalent… and overly policing what people say works out right? Let’s not ignore All of the coup(s), riots, and civil unrest/wars in other countries due to them being police states. The west (I’m assuming you’re referring to North America specifically) is far from perfect, but it’s not as bad as people who’ve never been and only believe what they hear through msm and social media. Coming at freedom of expression/ freedom of speech is absolutely insane to me as it’s one of the best aspects of American culture.
Before anyone says that he's just butthurt and not a big deal, watch the video first and then realize that he's been enduring this type of treatment since 2015, probably even 2013 when he first rose up to fame. It might seem odd that he's suing his haters only now when it's already happening before but what's happening during his early days in the pro-scene is a lot more tame than how it is now. It's just regular criticism before with some talk shit like "Shaker" "Washed" "Old" etc but now he's being bombarded with death threats every time they lose or every time he plays bad. He's not just any League pro, he's the face of the league and his popularity in Korea is comparable to KPop artists that actually experiences the same as Faker (Stalkers, Paparazzi leaking their address, etc) and knowing how hard Korean fanboys/fangirls worship their respective idols, it wouldn't be a surprise that some people are actual psychopaths who feel safe slandering people behind the screens
Interesting take on this, and I completely agree. Alot of people look up to the famous and praise them like they're literal Gods, but quickly forget that they are still human. Faker is no exception, and I hate how he has to take this kind of action against these people. This shouldn't even be happening in the first place too. People go crazy over others, like Rockstar's and singers. I was at a fan meet and greet for the Lumineers and I just treated them like they were human beings. Even got to shake hands with Wesley. I asked him if he had run ins with any crazy fans and he replied "Absolutely, as a famous band, you're guaranteed to get those people." My point is that we should really just treat celebrities like regular people. They say that celebrities are not your friends, well change that. Become friends with them. Treat them like regular good people.
This is so true, especially since he doesn't seem to be the guy to get under his skin. I think that those who made those threats must've crossed the line to the point where it got to him personally.
this is literally not a big deal. i am in shock that anyone is stupid and weak enough to be affected by this at all. sad day for humanity
@@bryanjones3336 his family is being slandered and they are recieving death threats thats not stupid or weak
@@Nic-te3vq they are words.... very weak and pitiful
People in the west that go on normal forums like reddit don‘t realize how extremely toxic online communities can be in some asian countries like Korea and Japan. I’m sure he ain‘t sueing people for calling him shaker or a bad player, but for some violent threats and defamatory stuff.
Yeah, the West may suck for a lot of things, but sucking at being a toxic online community is one thing I'll gladly take when "kys" or "cancer" jokes is the worst thing people can come up with. It's child's play compared to the religious internet zealots that the East has.
Korean 'fan' toxicity is some next level shit. I believe it's pretty bad in Japan as well, but if you saw this year's MSI, hosted in Busan, it painted a really clear picture of what the Korean fans were like. They cheered for T1 only when they were winning.
They clearly hated China - despite the Korean announcer (who is an absolute legend at building hype) doing his best to hype up the Chinese players, they were insultingly silent. I know China had to play from Beijing, but they were still showing their racism there. The only time they cheered for EU was when they were beating the Chinese team. They weren't happy when G2 beat T1 in the group stage. The Busan library memes became a thing because of how deathly silent the crowd was when T1 wasn't winning. When T1 lost to RNG after a hard-fought 5-game series, the T1 players were met with total silence when waving to the crowd.
Every other region that has hosted an event like that has been amicable in defeat, cheering on the victors even if they weren't the home team. EU cheered on FPX for their victory and supported G2 in their defeat in 2019. China cheered on for a Korea vs Korea final on their home soil in 2017. It must feel really bad for the Korean players for them to only be shown any appreciation when they're winning. Doing their best isn't enough.
@@midastheunwise2423 To be fair, in any other sport, fans wouldn't cheer for the opposing team either. I can understand not cheering for someone else. The clear toxicity is when they don't cheer for their own team just because they're behind or make a small mistake. Like a good play afterwards is negated by the fact that they have to catch up somehow and they still focus on the gold deficit instead of seeing that play as a possible turning point. It's practically comparable to an anime fandom.
@@Marrangutan You're probably right, but I always thought one of the nicest things about the 2019 worlds was that despite Europe's best ever hope for a 'legit' World title being crushed in a 3-0 defeat on home soil, the Paris crowd were still letting DoinB & co have their moment and politely cheering for their victory. It was very bittersweet as an EU fan, but I wouldn't swap that for that mentality for a more traditional sports one of us vs them.
You're right about anime fandoms being similar though. It reminds me of Gabi in Attack on Titan. She's a genuinely great character that explores what happens when radicalisation and reality collide, but everyone hates her because she did a bad thing that made them sad, and refuse to acknowledge that she's in fact FAR more compelling than the person she killed - naming no names because I don't want to spoil it for someone random.
@@midastheunwise2423 I think one thing in the West is that we still watch the games or to see cool shit happening that we could try doing ourselves, and the storylines and who wins or loses is still secondary. Sure you'll have the typical fans who say things like "TSM are washed" or "West vs East skill gap" or whatever, but at the end of the day, we just want to see cool shit and can appreciate skill that we could try to emulate, no matter how hopeless that goal is. Hell, the West puts memes over winning at times.
The East (Korea and China) is definitely much more prideful (save Japan who is just glad to be there). Shit about honor to the country and seeing your representative losing collectively has them feeling like that player/team is a blight on their nation. It's sad to see that we're all a part of the gaming community, yet have such different views around what should just be entertainment, win or lose.
Some ppl just dont understand just how bad Korean social media is. It's a warzone for celebs and a lot of people take it too far and go off the deep end
and to think south koreans would be better civilians my country the united state of america.
Faker doesn't deserve be treated this way . He's one of the respectable player of all time, he's nice to his community and org, doing this such thing to him is not acceptable whatever reason you can think of. I'm always and will be a fake'rs #1 fan even though I'm not playing League anymore. I will never forget the hype this man gave to us in a competitive scene that no one has ever pulled of. Saranghae Faker
One thing is taking insults for yourself, but there's a line if someone you care for gets involved in said insults. Good for Faker, let's hope he wins the trial.
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@好看的视频分享 ur mom failed for having u tho, sad…
Faker not suing toxic fans because he's "soft" it's because he's receiving threats towards him and his family. Even the staffs too. (Flaming and Threats aren't the same)
Faker is known for his title the unkillable demon king still he has human heart and emotions, everyone wants to enjoy playing video games but this hate they or we recieve was unacceptable.
Lots of commets here do not understand how far these toxic so call fans go. They create groups to organize hate trains on deliver their propaganda on forums.
It's constant harassment. It's been going on for years. So, what would you do.
I also think you're implementing Facebook as well 😂.
He also said in the interview that he did this to prevent it from happening to other players as well and i support him wholeheartedly, it's about time some parts of the esports fan community go outside and touch some grass
Some people in the comments are calling Faker being petty for taking legal actions, clearly showing that they didn't even watched the video yet showing how bad the situation has gotten for Faker.
watched the whole video, some people said mean things ohh noo. this ridiculous and weak and i have lost any little respect i had for the entire league community.
@@bryanjones3336 you truly are heartless
@@bryanjones3336 If you and your family received consistent death threats and your family were rightfully upset about it. Would you tell them to their face that they're overreacting and being "weak"? If so you're a damn bad person, I'm definitely someone who takes things like online harassment with a IDGAF attitude but when someone threatens my life or the life of my family or friends that's when I'm not dicking around anymore
@@zeothesnowwolf2937 its words grow up.
@@bryanjones3336 then get out. You or we for that matter can’t possibly know every single thing that has been sent to him and considering there were death threats among the comments, it is a good thing he is suing them.
I stand with him! Nobody is free of criticism, but the kind of messages people send to him feeling safe because they think they're behind a courtain, are absolutely disgusting! Can't watch his stream with chat open, neither read what they say on twitter. It's just awful.
To elaborate on 2:15 Faker originally said he wants "minimum" punishment. These losers send death threats, slurs, and whatnot to him and his family and he wants the minimum. He can do exactly what those haters want to do to him and ruin their careers but he doesn't.
If you’re sending death threats to players because they aren’t playing flawlessly every game or aren’t winning every event then you need to look urself in the mirror and ask yourself why ur like this, and then proceed to sit on a cactus 🌵
It's been a long time coming and I'm glad it's finally happening. You come for the king, you're going to lose your head.
Comments saying "man up", or "too soft" on this and other videos are ridiculous. It really is easy to speak when you haven't gone through it yourself.
I speak Korean so sometimes I see Faker hate communities and there are no words to describe the content that goes on there. They literally don't regard Faker as a human being. To them Faker is just some "thing" on the Internet they can unleash their own self pity and anger at.
On one side, I'm glad this happened. He has proven once again why he is such an iconic player and person by standing first in line against these keyboard warriors. They are going to get what they deserve.
Ironically, those same people commenting would call the cops if they received even half the type of threats that these "fans" gave. It's not just words to a player. Family was getting involved. KT was being sent actual weapons to their training facility as a threat. Yeah, go tell your family to just "man up" when they're receiving a bloody knife or a gun in the mail for being related to you, lmao.
yeah the korean communities when it comes to this shit are fucking massively insane right next to Japanese boards you would think the kpop and idol culture of japan would be a wake up for some but nah. None of the people saying this shit would last a day
One time I commented about a player getting affected by hate from fans and a person wrote “you’re weak. He’s not. He’s not getting affected. You are.” It kept my mind busy for a long while to figure out. Well day by day I understand more that, that person is a huge baby behind an unbreakable steel man painting.
Another man also wrote “getting affected by the people on the internet is weakness.” Like we’re not human beings but machines with spesific modes. Man worse thing about gaslighting is it’s so hard to realize it.
@@gls3578 It's such a joke because anyone can say that when the attention isn't on them. These people don't even have anyone giving them a second thought as far as the public eye is concerned.
death threats aren't ok people, and shouldn't be legal but please everyone here... also think about what going too far on restricting people's freedom of speech does to your society, it's necessary to have some insults exist so everyone can still speak freely.
boy, League of Legends esports has been crazy. TSM roster shuffle, Regi's drama, DL co-stream ban, and now this.
And Left and Right bugs on Live Pro Play
This is something that a lot of korean players deal with in all competitive games. Within the rhythm gaming sphere, a number of korean players have suffered extreme abuse, harassment, all for the sake of making them quit. As what I have heard, there are groups of korean players doing organized attacks to mentally destroy top players, in hopes they quit and "get out of their way" so to speak. It's unbelievably disgusting, and I am excited to see T1 put the nail to horrible people that do this.
Lowkey the title is a bit misleading and commenters are getting the wrong idea - just a heads up to ppl about to comment "man up" "how is this a big deal" etc. it's not just people sending a hate comment or being rude. It was criminals sending real death threats and tracking down the players family members and harassing them. The criminals also sent them disturbing images, and a box containing a deadly weapon to the company. So its not really "toxic fans" more like "actual criminals" lol
I don't know if I'm high or this dude has really nice eyes. I'm gonna go with both. But I am sorry to hear that people can't stop being nasty to folks. Faker doesn't deserve that, nor anyone for that matter.
your right on every point, your high, he has nice eyes, and nobody deserves that.
you made me go check his eye again. And yes he has nice eyes LOL
@@stormlich5094 "he has nice eyes and nobody deserves that" sounds like a threat out of context
He has amazing eyes
someone has to do it
it was goanna happen
Honestly, I can't believe how this is a "regular" behaviour in korean culture. I thought that the korean dramas on Netflix, where women where constantly harassed between each others, and how they are also harassed at work due to their toxic cultures, that these were just that, dramas. Incredible to see that people in korea feel entitled to judge and criticise other people just because they are either someone you know, or a public figure.
Yea bullying culture is horrible in Korea. It’s especially prevalent in schools. Whenever it comes out that a popular celebrity or public figure has bullying allegations it is a huge deal because of how awful that label is and usually means these people have participated in physical and mental torture of other people.
Sometimes I miss the world before the internet and social media. Armies of teenagers without fully formed brains didnt have the power to just say whatever they wanted to anyone at all times in a space where you often dont have any notion of age, mental health, etc.
amen
This just shows how toxic (not all ofc) koreans can be, which is also present even in the k-pop industry
edit:
Glad they did mentioned the same toxicity that's present in the k-pop industry, which did result to some k-pop idols taking their own life.
It's not the Koreans themselves, it's the agencies. Korean agencies of eSports, dramas and especially kpop exploit, verbally and emotionally abuse, and garner toxicity towards their talents them selves.
The fans only perpetuate the toxic actions of the agencies themselves towards the stars. Because if the company can do it, why can't they?
That reasoning alone is disgusting but it's even worse when you realize these stars are allowed to sue fans over this but not the agencies.
Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't it the chinese forums that have been hating on him because he called out the toxic chinese players. He's pretty well loved in Korea and if my memory is correct this started because some crazy haters in china made offensive post about his family during mother's day
@@muufle i have to disagree, the gaming industry will never reach the toxicity of the kpop industry and not many companies can get away with abusing the players. Especially players with good skills and a stable fanbase. For an idol, skills doesn't matter if you don't have anything to back you up, that's why even when many idols are crazy talented, they can still be manipulated.. But for a pro gamers, their skills are valuable, it doesn't matter if their old agency is trash, as long as they're good they could find another oppoturnity worldwide.
Edit: the pro scene's issue has always been the fanbase and the community, this game already has an agressive and negative community, it's only worse when it's a competitive sport
@@dgsjsk7337 if then whats in the video all about
@@bartolomeocannibal2060 i think it's the same thing, the recent events are just the last straw
I'm happy to see Faker taking these people to court. Make examples out of them because as Mike Tyson once said, "Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."
I remember watching Faker’s father's interview, he said he wished Faker would retire because of the toxicity thrown at him.
Does Faker need to constantly prove himself for people to criticize him this much? It's not like other players beating his records or coming close to what he achieved. He is still the one beating his old self glories.
I'm glad that its FINALLY being addressed
South Korea has the 4th highest suicide rate amongst all countries. The amount of online harassment that goes on in SK is crazy. I know back in February a twitch streamer by the name of Jammi95 self-deleted after getting harassed, which was going on for what seemed like a couple years straight. I don't know the details of why she was getting harassed but I know it's been going on for quite a while, even having a few mental breakdowns on stream.
Idol culture is actually insane. I'm glad someone with some heft is using the fame to address this.
What most toxic league players don't know, is that they can literally be sued and serve years in prison, get a good lawyer, you shouldn't take harassment and death threats and ignore it.
Sue them for cyberbullying, cyber harrassment, cyberstalking, death threats, online abuse, etc etc etc.
Not only do you make some great cash, you can send them to prison (or even a mental institute if they have some undiagnosed disorders)
Man I thought we were different than football, American football, and Olympic fans. I guess we really are cut from the same clothe.
Faker is one of the nicest legend i've ever seen and that's why I love him, so no matter what happened I will always be his fan, no matter what others will say.
I saw a comment saying that Faker has been nice for too long and this is my take, I hope this can reach to more people than to just reply to it, giving it more popularity.
I don’t think being nice or stop being nice has something to do with online abuse.
Confronting abusers and speaking up to yourself, trying to cease the harm that’s being done to your family is stopping being nice?
Ignoring it is being nice?
I don’t think there’s black or white here. Nor good nor bad, it is something that has to be done.
What a terrible take and maybe it tries to be funny, it just wasn’t for me I guess.
Can’t believe it has got so many likes too.
Thanks for reading.
How are they saying "I'm a T1's fan" and yet they send death threat?
You might as well say "I'm a T1's hater".
Fans are supposed to support their idol, not the other way around.
i bit of hate is not bad, but habitual hate is a problem, cause its an obsession that is dangerous, a little of anything is not bad, but stack it and things get horrible
Probably lost a bet..
T1 haters at least keep it about the game
Trolls need to understand that actions have consequences. Being behind a screen doesn't protect you from the law
Harassment and threats of violence isnt trolling.
@@Garoslol well it can be, i see this „your mum sky“ Spam every time in fakers stream
@@lonely2601 How is that trolling? Sound pretty vile.
He has all rights to do this like for real if you hate him hate him all you want just dont type something that will push him to his limits that he would sue you cuz of it take responsibility 😅
@remembertomorrow L + ratio + u r balding
@remembertomorrow 🤡🤡
@remembertomorrow the key things from this is insulting a player is fine but really going after their families? wtf is wrong with you?
@remembertomorrow So if you're rich, it is fine to be subject to all abuses online including to family members but if you're poor it is suddenly not fine? Adding the whole millionaire thing in there does not change the fact. Insulting a player and their plays? Fine. Harassing the player's family member? Why?
Edit: Not to mention past doxxing and death threats
@remembertomorrow poor or rich they are still human
"We hope that a healthy and a mature esports culture can be established. . ."
Yeah good luck with that.
Sadly, it's not as surprising as it should be to see such vile behaviour coming from the League "community". Toxicity has been tolerated and actively supported by Riot for too long, allowing such extremes to happen in the first place. I hope the Korean judges set an example and add a few zeros to that 700$ fine. Harassment like this needs a precedence case that makes ppl think twice about sending death threats online.
You don't even want to know what doors that kind of thinking opens, but it's most certainly interesting to see which way cyber security moves towards next. 😂😂😂😂
when you're one of the best players in any game and getting treated by your die hard toxic fans who are willing to do anything to make you play like the prime of his/her form then that's not supporting anymore.
I like how people in the comments are saying it's just "words". Easy for you to say sitting in front of your PC not having any sort of presence in the social world; not like your family and friends are being targeted. Once you reach the level of Faker's popularity, then you will realize how difficult it is to face haters who come after your friends and family.
Maybe think about how Faker feels when his family or friends are being targeted than voicing out how you feel about this issue.
In every league game I've played I encounter someone who fucked my mum.
True. It's not "just words" when these so called fans are already taking actions to it by doxxing. When they have the information to his family, they have the chance to carry out their death threats. Faker's grandmother will not be able to defend herself if someone were to attack her. All it takes is 1 crazy stalker with a weapon and he might not see his family member again.
Faker is like the nicest, most humble, and friendly person in League. how anyone can hate him is beyond my comprehension. he is like the perfect example of what a pro esports player should be. professional, hard working, and loyal.
Disrespecting Faker is like disrespecting Cristiano Ronaldo or Messi if you're a football fan.
It doesn't have sense.
Wrong mindset bud. Disrespecting anyone is a sht thing to do stop putting people on this pedestal as if that's the reason why you shouldn't disrespect them.
Yes. I fully support this.
Just because you can hide behind a screen doesnt mean you should.
Bet those people haven't seen the light outside for 2 years being like "I can do better" while munching on their family size Doritos.
@@ark1n220 so true lol
Absolutely, also people that are protesting shouldn't hide behind a screen right? Every country should become like china, that as soon as you mention anything against the government your life is ruined, right?
Clown take.
@@BenDover-mx1wq Are u fucking stupid? Faker isn't a goverment to compared with, and his life and family is being threatened. You think that is still ok?
@@ark1n220 LOL
There’s gonna be a lot of kids here who don’t understand South Korean culture and the actual context and legitimacy of some of these situations. South Korea’s laws about these situations are very different than ours for better or worse.
Tbh online bullying is so prevalent, I think this is a good thing.
It's unacceptable to find those disgusting comments which make him mad that he will sue them. I also hate their comments to the eSports community which is uncomfortable and it needs to be arrested at all costs.
Hi score esports hope y’all having a good day everyone :D
I do not understand wasting energy on hating someone, I understand that people can get satisfaction from reactions of the target but faker hardly ever reacts to such thing. Then why, you must be really twisted to do something like this.
They have nothing better to do
@@Bubbble_Bear because they hate their lives, that they have to ruin others just to feel better.
this is actually such a big step as people online tend to forget that real people exist behind all those screens it’s not just a video game things you say hold meaning .. good on faker to stand up for himself 🐐
While I don't condone such behavior, you gotta admit...sending people to jail for insulting people is some dystopian shit.
It’s about time. There was this streamer who was trapped in a 3 hour ranked match by toxic trolls and they should be punished as well.
Yeah they should go to JAIL lol
Toxic server and toxic fans?! What a surprise
Good.
You should be held accountable for your actions online. Harassment should not be tolerated. Faker’s actions will help change the mentality of netizens.
You can dislike and hates players but vicious comments is something that come from the lack of education and awful ego from those people.
I'm opening up a bottle of my lovely collection to drink into this. No one should endure this kind of harassment due to a video game. Cheers to everyone! Hope they get all of these guys to pay up or serve jail. I would love to see reports of these people getting into court.
imagine thinking jail is deserved if somebody harrasses some1 online 💀
@@Reddit2 if they are crossing lines and the law can prevent that, why not? Unless you are one of people that harasses another and think its okay because its online, I don't see why you are againts someone protecting their own mental health and their families. I don't want to argue on this simple topic. That wine was nice. Good day
@@saltylemonz258 u need serious help if you think a few bad words online (not death threats etc) deserve prison time lmao
@@Reddit2 so you didnt watch the video and just thought this harrassment is along the lines of "Faker sucks" "Faker bad" or "Shaker". Watch it so you can understand what harassment I am talking about.
@@Reddit2 internet can really turn someone into something so bad, bc they are only behind the monitors who can't say those things in real life.
Gotta love the lol player base ; reaching new heights of toxicity
His former support Wolf even called him a saint for enduring the inting he was encountering because of bets for his soloQ games for so long before talking about it so imagine that unspeakable harrasment on top of it. Many would have just retired to make it stop...
Its one thing to insult the players, which in of itself is unacceptable, but leave their parents out of it.
Holy shit these kind of fans are the real lifeless
I get a little bit of toxicity but that's when your in game and calling each other shit but when you start trying to hurt people etc that's when you need to put a stop to it
man i cannot fathom how ppl would hate someone like faker. criticism is ok but malicious comments are truly despicable
This guy's voice is incredible. One of the best voices I've heard in recent memory. So good.
Obsession in Korea is another level, how can they do that kind of bad thing to a person who undoubtedly the greatest of all time League and org who make their region famous. Absloute disgrace
faker has my support go for the lawsuit
I dont think personally harassing someone and their family can be considered as a "fan" of them
Hey guys, why do you guys pick white as a main color... my eyes is burning when I'm trying to watch this at 4 am.... plz be consider of picking darker color schemes
I hope one day governments do something for online bullying
Korea is fucked man the country failed to do anything about literal sexual assault in school systems until the creator of squid game made a movie about it
Look up “silenced”
seems a bit extreme, if its just insults, its VERY extreme, but if its death threats and personal threats, fair enough
The title should be "Faker files lawsuit against Malicious Trolls" rather than "fans."
Fans won't be toxic to ppl they are fans of
This just solidifies how serious Esports is in korea. Slowly inching its way to football status.
everybody posting shit until they get sued and the funniest thing is that they thought by sending a fucking apology letter would solve everything smh
I never knew about Korean culture and stuff till 2 years ago and was shocked by the fact that how toxic they are. I occasionally play on EUNE, TR and RU and always thought that no server could be more toxic than these servers. I was so wrong and the worst part is that it's not just LoL players. Their internet culture (users) is toxic to its roots. How it all started? Can someone fill me in?
Smart move. People who send death threats need to learn that this isn't OK.
Something else to note for my fellow American viewers--there is a massive difference in culture between the United States and Korea.
You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain. Well this is the rarer case of Faker actually fighting back against villainy haha.
Some people here would say that "Faker is a celebrity so he should expect haters." but hate on the man and do not bring the man's family especially his mother. Such things should not exist anywhere.
I take back all of the negative statements i've made of Faker, he is a great player and a fantastic person.
you know what comes to mind for stuff like is "stick and stones my brake my bones but words will never hurt me" i was told this from a young age and trust me words only hurt you if you let them get to you. just brush it off and move on. and yes i was bullied a lot in school but i never let it get on top of me and just got on with my life.
the gaming community is so toxic, fans harrasing players, gamers being sexist towards female commentators and players, its shameful and ridiculous honestly
So this is 'If you win, we celebrate. If you lose, we shame you' situation. Bro 😭 this is how you know who's the real fan and the fan that only gamble
Jesus... some people have too much time on their hands...
Personaly I think that half the reason people hate and search for reasons to trow salt on him is because he proved the belief about only very young players (17-24) can do well in e-sports wrong. Only young players can be pro-level good was marketed for a long time and yea, most players fall off but Faker proves it's not a skill or reflexes that fall of but the players just grow tired of the pressure, 'fan's' hating them and just generaly they grow boored with the game. This man crushed the excuse of being "too old" while people play badly. The reason e-sport teams want boys from that age-range is mostly for marketing. But Faker, this man is a legend ( some game comentary: "form is temporary, Faker is forever"). Wish him all the best, as many years in pro as he wants, some peace of mind too.
They're not fans, they're just stans who can't control their obsessions. A fan would know how to respect their idols
Respect. Nobody should have to go through that and I hope more people follow suit
This kind of toxicity is supported by the “if you’re getting affected by these then you’re weak.” kind of toxicity. I remember making a comment about how esports players are getting affected by insults and a guy replied “that’s because you’re weak. He’s not. So he’s not getting affected. You are.” Took me so much to figure out if it was natural or if it’s just me who got affected by these stuff but hey turns out he was gaslighting. So sorry for him and his pityfull life that he has to pretend as “big and strong steel man”
Now we know why his performance was off yesterday against KDF. If you look at the end in game 1 after they lost, Faker stormed out of his seat without interacting with the camera. Now it could just be him trying to get to the vod review room faster, but when you look at his performance in 3 of those games. You can't help but think that he must have a lot on his mind coming into yesterday's games.
Faker's the chillest person and I think the normal things said like "you're trash" is nothing to him or any other player, that's a normal trashtalk. But being a public figure and getting violent threats is a different matter. You'd actually start feeling paranoid specially to this day where people can get information about you online and people are more crazy than ever you just can't expect what they would do. So I think legal actions are actually a good call. Also, koreans should really be more grateful T1 alone have represented korea and won 3 times, can't they just appreciate it and support them.
Faker’s so cute bro, idk why anyone would go out their way to harass him like that
Faker is like... the least toxic person in league, that's why I wonder why people think it's fine to be completely and utterly disgusting.
Publicly insulting?? FINES??
That would pay off the US Debt in ONE DAY!!!
I don’t understand why people feel so hateful towards a player. There probably are reasons but it is hard to comprehend.
Remember when we used to say “It’s just a game”? ☠️
On one hand, the adult in me whose' been using the internet since I was a little kid finds the idea of "Someone was mean to me on the internet, I'm gonna put them in jail!" ridiculous and absurd; However, on the other hand, it's reasonable and a refreshing idea that when someone goes way too goddamn far that they can be punished within reason.
That, and I'll agree with a lot of league players and fans, I'm sure, that Faker's a nice kid and doesn't deserve to be treated poorly.
It's not about "someone was mean to me ln the internet". You put little gravitation to what transpired as to why t1 org decided to go this route. " doxxing family members, friends, death threats, sending inappropriate photos and deadly weapon to their home and building". That's not an immature keyboard warrior would do but actual dangerous fanatics.
Kr laws also lead to stuff like Jim Jong-Kook feeling empowered to threaten legal action on people saying completely reasonable things, like that he's almost certainly on PEDS. Sometimes, it's healthy, other times, it's protecting the reinforcement of unhealthy body standards. South Korean body building culture and body image stuff is considered to be incredibly toxic and unhealthy in any number of ways, and while their laws protect some people from harassment, they're also protecting unrealistic standards that are negatively effecting others.