Cs or Valorant doesn't matter. But the fact is that Cs was going down before Valorant's release and after Valorant got dropped, valve had to pull up there pants and make the game better. To have two games is much better for both parties cause they push each other to be better.
exactly my thoughts. competition is *good* for the players in the end. remember when cs suddenly introduced pings after some time valorant was released?
I have the same opinions as Tarik, both games are fun and you play whatever you’re feeling that day. Since I’ve been playing csgo for so long I started getting back to valorant to spice things up and the game is also great. Neither game is better since they both have aspects that can make a game better at a certain point while other not so much, csgo movement will always be the best movement for me, source engine’s spaghetti code will always have a special place in my heart, tho needing to learn a shit tons of line ups can be a bit tiresome and pretty daunting when learning a new map. Valorant abilities are unique and easy to use, you don’t need to rely to 3 other guys to know the line up and throw at a certain timing for a site execution, you only need one guy with an iPad, shooting mechanics was broken when run and gun was a huge thing, but now it’s fine as hell, no random spawns helps a lot and a great anti cheat, like seriously, the main reason why I recommend valorant a lot more is because of cheaters, VAC doesn’t do much and you can pit against cheaters a lot while valorant I haven’t see one till this day, but I still love both games. Can’t deny the fact that content and beginner friendliness valorant is much better, but some gameplay aspects I feel that csgo is much better. Like whatever you want, both games are amazing
I still remember the time he whiffed the entire 5-7 magazine on a dude and he lost the knife duel when he pulled it out, then grabbing his chair in anger high above his head as if he was gonna yeet it into his monitor! :D
i love tarik when he fumes it is so funny. He is a competitor and perfectionist and i appreciate that. The best streamer and content creator/influencer for the Valorant comunity.
@@broom_404 It's pretty much never super serious and usually all smiles and jokes anyway. Also everyone has bad days and tarik streams every day so..., not to even mention that chat is very often r worded as heck
@@broom_404 yea and it's usually wholesome. chat from time to time insults a group of people or whoever tarik is playing with, and he doesn't let those things pass.
I was really hoping for some clips from either of his Bros vs. Pros with Ludwig, Atrioc, and Stanz, especially since they did one for Valorant and one for CS:GO, and they were both hilarious. :(
To be honest, I think Valorant and CSGO share their fan base and it's awesome. I used to play CS but ignorance from Valve is what made me switch to Valorant. I still like both games, just prefer Valorant.
Same bro, I came from cs and switched to valorant too. The game is just way more fun to play plus you add the fact that the devs update the game so much bringing in new content like agents, maps etc. While fixing bugs/glitches in under a day.
I wish I could make the switch. Idk playing 4:3 so long in addition to valorant mechanics it just feels clunky and movement doesn't feel right. Not hating, like i said i wish i could make the switch, but i cant play it at all for that reason
My laptop gets way too hot playing CS, otherwise I would probably never touch Valorant again. Valorant specs are less demanding so it's what I play. It is fun, but I don't even watch the competitive scene, whereas I watch every CS tournament, wishing I could play the game lol.
Whoever did that adobe after effect thing with taric firing both Aks In the air I applaud the nuance involved in with it just being a subtle joke but how much effort it would’ve taken to nail down such a simple flash animation.
Before valorant cs was getting dull/lazy, 2019 was the year of the AUG/Krieg which finally made the community realized how much of cs’s playerbase just dickride pros, what they do and stay with the mentality that if its working, dont change it. Dont get me wrong, those 2 weapons were way too good but it has been like that since the beginning but no one wanted to try them out because why change from the m4/ak? And instead of balancing it valve just nerfed both to the point that both guns are kinda irrelevant now, same with every other gun. Devs were getting so negligent and the game became boring, they barely cared about the pro scene and only have a minor change every few years. Valorant was a breath of fresh air, bringing cs and even overwatch, siege, fortnite, apex, etc pros to the scene and innovating the ceiling every week. Agent metas, guns, maps, strats were came up with and countered every patch and pro scene was fun, the community actually had a say and devs cared(at least more than cs). In valorant there never was as much of a rigid rule like in cs where you have to do this, or that doesnt work. People limit tested the game even to this day and its amazing to play. After which valve finally put some effort into the game and its better to play now, esp after the nade drop changes and map pool changes. Both games have its flaws, but honestly having both games coexist is amazing for both scenes and esports in general.
The only reason i played valorant is because of tarik. I was a die hard CSGO guy and was playing it day in day out and never even gave valo a chance. Now im immo1 and play CSGO maybe once a week
Tarik and Hiko shares the same fanbase, almost everyone is 25above, calm and mature that wants to talk about anything in a normal way that the chatbox is intended to. I love sitting right next to them everytime they stream.
Like this is why I dislike Dimitri if he knows so much about these games and community's then when he gets these scripts he would say this is not right. You can see Tarik being the bridge between these games. He is involved in both communities and it is awesome to see. He is the player who hasn't picked a side.
if i'm being honest i was never really that interested in CS until I got into Valorant. Now that I play Valo and follow the competitive scene, I actually like and follow CS as well
every time I bounce into his stream I without fail, at least once hear him shutting down an argument in the chat about which game is better and always instilling the fact that people can enjoy both games at the same time and that you don't have to pick a side. This video is kinda off
@@rogerbacon7746 there’s no misinfo here. He said that at the start of Valorant Tarik did jokingly stir the pot between both games, which he did as seen in the video.
The valve riot competition for me started with dota vs LOL but that game didn’t have much of overlap in terms of pros. CS GO, being very established in terms of esports when valorant popped off gave us this opportunity. Tarik is great at walking along the line between the two games, even I am convinced to try playing cs go bec of him.
5:03 huge respect for saying "Katowice" the way its supposed to be said instead of saying it with a weirdly sounding english accent like most people do
For me I’ve tried both out and valorant feels easier to learn but csgo doesn’t have a meta on who is good and who is bad and insta lockers so I think they both got their pros and cons and there are way more than just that
I play both but I am wayyyy more intimidated playing CS, Valorant is more accessible but takes the same level of skill to be really good at. CS oldheads been playing some version of it for 20 years so getting counter strafed and one tapped in CS feels so much more like being behind in too many ways to catch up
"No wonder it f*cking died". Meanwhile half a year ago CS:GO had a Stockholm Major with a viewership record Valorant will not beat in their future history
I started playing fps like a year and a half ago after playing MOBAs for like 15years and I started with CS but couldn’t handle the cheaters and left immediately :( now I enjoy both Val and CS but I just play Val most of the time since I have more skins there :P
Tarik would be playing CS if all the NA CS pros didn't switch to valorant. There's more content to be farmed in valorant cos theres more people he knows playing it. People make the content not the game.
Tarik does not hate on CS, stupid video honestly. He likes both games and has played CS for 15 years, hes enjoying Valorant, its that simple. Honestly 90% of his viewers including me watch Tarik for tarik hes just that good of a personality.
Val fixed every issue that I had with CS. Personally Val is more fun to watch. CS has some absolutely amazing moments. But that just it. They're moments. In Val, yeah there are boring rounds. But for me personally it's more fun to watch as a whole. And that's just talking about the watching aspect. Playing CS just never clicked with me. It is quite literally a "Mad cuz bad" situation. I do respect the impact it has had on Val and Esports as a whole. Definitely a classic and one of the best shooters to come out ever.
Yes man. Both game hv great thrilling tension when we watch their tournaments. But Val, its just something else. The dynamic due to agent selection, role, nerf, buff, is just so fun to watch. I always found something intresting each tournaments.
You guys dont know anything about tarik opinion about csgo and valorant tarik has always stated that you can enjoy both games and that you shouldnt argue wich game is better than the other he like to tease both communities in a fun way not just to please the csgo community or the valorant community
Valorant oficial Istambul vct = 40k viewers Tarik's stream of the sabe championship = 90k simultâneos viesse he is NA version of gaules in teams of contente creating
who doesn't love watching tarik jinx every team in his watch parties
its how faze won their major
@@ATS1031 bro had Ghost going to qual for Copenhagen 😂😂😂
Mr jinx
@@ATS1031 and how g2 lost in stockholm
Cs or Valorant doesn't matter. But the fact is that Cs was going down before Valorant's release and after Valorant got dropped, valve had to pull up there pants and make the game better. To have two games is much better for both parties cause they push each other to be better.
This. People don't realize that competing games can be so beneficial towards eachother. Regardless of which game you prefer
@@doublecupdan7715 Additionally, not only for games. Just about every rivalry can make both sides strive for greatness (Efficient rivalry, that is).
exactly my thoughts. competition is *good* for the players in the end. remember when cs suddenly introduced pings after some time valorant was released?
Just like Terraria and Minecraft
Cs numbers were up before val’s release, p sure player numbers were ATH
Tarik watch parties are so fun, they usually get way more viewers than the official valoramt stream as well lol
yeah i love how he actually watches the gameplay
He is the main stream
*in NA matches
🤣☺️
@@rafay6937 cause he doesnt watch the eu ones lmao
I have the same opinions as Tarik, both games are fun and you play whatever you’re feeling that day. Since I’ve been playing csgo for so long I started getting back to valorant to spice things up and the game is also great.
Neither game is better since they both have aspects that can make a game better at a certain point while other not so much, csgo movement will always be the best movement for me, source engine’s spaghetti code will always have a special place in my heart, tho needing to learn a shit tons of line ups can be a bit tiresome and pretty daunting when learning a new map. Valorant abilities are unique and easy to use, you don’t need to rely to 3 other guys to know the line up and throw at a certain timing for a site execution, you only need one guy with an iPad, shooting mechanics was broken when run and gun was a huge thing, but now it’s fine as hell, no random spawns helps a lot and a great anti cheat, like seriously, the main reason why I recommend valorant a lot more is because of cheaters, VAC doesn’t do much and you can pit against cheaters a lot while valorant I haven’t see one till this day, but I still love both games.
Can’t deny the fact that content and beginner friendliness valorant is much better, but some gameplay aspects I feel that csgo is much better. Like whatever you want, both games are amazing
Russia didn't attack Ukraine and also Valorant is a shooting game. Both are same thing 🐸 NA bot tarik Kekw.. Only kekw people likes tarik bots stream
@@shorthub_69 lol
TL DR
@@shorthub_69 what the fk r u smoking man
@@alnilam1337 both games fun, play with you like.
Doesn't matter which game Tarik plays, we watch him bc We Heckin Love Tarik.
I still remember the time he whiffed the entire 5-7 magazine on a dude and he lost the knife duel when he pulled it out, then grabbing his chair in anger high above his head as if he was gonna yeet it into his monitor! :D
Bot loves bot 🤣🤣🤣also bots game botorant😂😂
@@shorthub_69 wat.jpeg
@@shorthub_69 don’t think too hard brotha
i love tarik when he fumes it is so funny. He is a competitor and perfectionist and i appreciate that. The best streamer and content creator/influencer for the Valorant comunity.
his cs streams are much better, valorant is pretty boring
@@achintgupta666 ok boomer
@@hmm7458 ok 7 yo valorant player
@@achintgupta666 iam 22 cs boomer
@@hmm7458 kinda sad if you still play valorant then
i used to love watch him playing with moe and stewie, man i miss his CS streaming
he plays with stewie in val if you want to check it out
same moe fuming at every little thing and stewie and tarik trolling...so much fun
Those were the best cs days with shroud and jasonr in 2016-2017
i hecking love tarik, lifts my mood every time i see him
i hecking love tenz
really? everytime i tuned in i always got tarik saying "shut up chat, ban that guy, stfu"
@@broom_404 It's pretty much never super serious and usually all smiles and jokes anyway. Also everyone has bad days and tarik streams every day so..., not to even mention that chat is very often r worded as heck
@@broom_404 yea and it's usually wholesome. chat from time to time insults a group of people or whoever tarik is playing with, and he doesn't let those things pass.
always love it when Dimitri hosts another vid
The chubby one are better i think
@@piggybaggy242 no just no
Truee
Except when talks about his love for his zowie mouse.
I was really hoping for some clips from either of his Bros vs. Pros with Ludwig, Atrioc, and Stanz, especially since they did one for Valorant and one for CS:GO, and they were both hilarious. :(
You can just TH-cam search it if you want to see it so bad lol
To be honest, I think Valorant and CSGO share their fan base and it's awesome. I used to play CS but ignorance from Valve is what made me switch to Valorant. I still like both games, just prefer Valorant.
Same bro, I came from cs and switched to valorant too. The game is just way more fun to play plus you add the fact that the devs update the game so much bringing in new content like agents, maps etc. While fixing bugs/glitches in under a day.
I wish I could make the switch. Idk playing 4:3 so long in addition to valorant mechanics it just feels clunky and movement doesn't feel right. Not hating, like i said i wish i could make the switch, but i cant play it at all for that reason
My laptop gets way too hot playing CS, otherwise I would probably never touch Valorant again. Valorant specs are less demanding so it's what I play. It is fun, but I don't even watch the competitive scene, whereas I watch every CS tournament, wishing I could play the game lol.
Yep, it’s the consistent dev support that is the biggest plus factor of Val to me
I’d still play CS but the NA servers are dead.
The way he screams for his life from brim ult 🤣🤣
scientists are trying to find out why this guy takes so long to come to the point
watchtime
Entertainment
Lol
it's called articulating oneself, you wouldn't understand it. would you prefer he just insta-said everything? do you watch movies in 2x speed?
@@cherylno583 fuck yeah
the clips of tarik that started at 3:20 man lmfaooooooo. classics. my streamer
Whoever did that adobe after effect thing with taric firing both Aks In the air I applaud the nuance involved in with it just being a subtle joke but how much effort it would’ve taken to nail down such a simple flash animation.
Tarik's VCT watch parties are so funny dudeee I love it!! XD
Love how in the funniest round ive ever seen 4 people get knifed and semphis is still mad about comms :D
Before valorant cs was getting dull/lazy, 2019 was the year of the AUG/Krieg which finally made the community realized how much of cs’s playerbase just dickride pros, what they do and stay with the mentality that if its working, dont change it. Dont get me wrong, those 2 weapons were way too good but it has been like that since the beginning but no one wanted to try them out because why change from the m4/ak? And instead of balancing it valve just nerfed both to the point that both guns are kinda irrelevant now, same with every other gun. Devs were getting so negligent and the game became boring, they barely cared about the pro scene and only have a minor change every few years.
Valorant was a breath of fresh air, bringing cs and even overwatch, siege, fortnite, apex, etc pros to the scene and innovating the ceiling every week. Agent metas, guns, maps, strats were came up with and countered every patch and pro scene was fun, the community actually had a say and devs cared(at least more than cs). In valorant there never was as much of a rigid rule like in cs where you have to do this, or that doesnt work. People limit tested the game even to this day and its amazing to play. After which valve finally put some effort into the game and its better to play now, esp after the nade drop changes and map pool changes.
Both games have its flaws, but honestly having both games coexist is amazing for both scenes and esports in general.
The only reason i played valorant is because of tarik. I was a die hard CSGO guy and was playing it day in day out and never even gave valo a chance. Now im immo1 and play CSGO maybe once a week
I don't even like esports but i cant help but binge these videos! Well edited and very entertaining
Tarik is soooo cheeky. Somehow managed to gather new valorant fans while maintaining his CS fans through his personalities 🤣🤣
tarik still loves csgo and valorant any time he shit talks one game its all jokes
Tarik and Hiko shares the same fanbase, almost everyone is 25above, calm and mature that wants to talk about anything in a normal way that the chatbox is intended to. I love sitting right next to them everytime they stream.
I'm so glad I found Tarik he really is the content king
i play both, and i think shroud has a point, i only play cs now for fun and not give af abt line up
Like this is why I dislike Dimitri if he knows so much about these games and community's then when he gets these scripts he would say this is not right. You can see Tarik being the bridge between these games. He is involved in both communities and it is awesome to see. He is the player who hasn't picked a side.
Okay but he made that point eventually did he not?
if i'm being honest i was never really that interested in CS until I got into Valorant. Now that I play Valo and follow the competitive scene, I actually like and follow CS as well
I immensely respect both games. Cs being the veteran tac shooter and valorant being the new and gimmicky tac shooter. They are both good.
I love both, I just went to Blast Lisbon and the energy was CRAAAAZY, but today I play way more Valorant
Love that 5 minute intro, followed by an immediate plug-in very cool guys 👍
Guy is entertaining af enjoying his stream everyday
every time I bounce into his stream I without fail, at least once hear him shutting down an argument in the chat about which game is better and always instilling the fact that people can enjoy both games at the same time and that you don't have to pick a side. This video is kinda off
Typical score video, filled with misinfo to fuel a narrative
Yep, thescore is fakenarrativ-generator to fish views. debunking this chanel in a detailed video shouldnt take too long.
@@rogerbacon7746 there’s no misinfo here. He said that at the start of Valorant Tarik did jokingly stir the pot between both games, which he did as seen in the video.
@@-6ix559 Not what I'm referring to.
who's here after tarik watched this on stream
18:32 yes Tarik did 1v5 situation what a great ace by the man from Brooklyn.
Not only is he a Major winner he is also that Major's MVP
which is mentioned in the video 10 seconds after they talk about him being a major winner...
@@uchihasasuke7436 but did you know he was a major mvp and hear this, won it?
@@chanmalichan4946 lmao
Also bot now 🐸
@@shorthub_69 NA ruins people man😔
The worst thing about the mid on mirage clip was that I knew what bogdaans law was the entire time :)
NA's only MVP Major Winner*
The valve riot competition for me started with dota vs LOL but that game didn’t have much of overlap in terms of pros. CS GO, being very established in terms of esports when valorant popped off gave us this opportunity. Tarik is great at walking along the line between the two games, even I am convinced to try playing cs go bec of him.
nobody:
Dimitri: "his knack for ceremoniously clapping cheecks"
Nice Batman Beyond clip 0:36
Something about Tarik "Tarik" makes me laugh
Tarik the Emperor Palpatine of shooters. Playing both sides so he always comes out on top
7:12 THE BEST
5:03 huge respect for saying "Katowice" the way its supposed to be said instead of saying it with a weirdly sounding english accent like most people do
For me I’ve tried both out and valorant feels easier to learn but csgo doesn’t have a meta on who is good and who is bad and insta lockers so I think they both got their pros and cons and there are way more than just that
Both are good but im kinda mad, cuz i feel that Riot Copied half a map from CS (Inferno), but the music for the new map..... Beautiful
never wouldve expected to see ben deen on the score esports lol
I'd watch it too, if there was no kyedae in his watch party.
watching tarik play high elo valorant gave me esea rank s nostalgia
we need one of these about myth
CSGO vs Valorant is just this era's League vs Dota, Runescape vs Wow, and Fortnite vs PUBG.
THE CLOCK😩
Still waiting for a dimitri IEM dallas c9 video
12:14 his hands do be looking like chamber.
bruh we always forget that he was the MVP. Tarik is the GOAT
Cartoon Network......Ex wife...... lmao the description HAHAHAHA
I play both but I am wayyyy more intimidated playing CS, Valorant is more accessible but takes the same level of skill to be really good at. CS oldheads been playing some version of it for 20 years so getting counter strafed and one tapped in CS feels so much more like being behind in too many ways to catch up
I love my tac shooter cousins in CSGO! I hope they know it’s not about who’s the better person, just, like, an age difference lol
*Heaven Or Hell*
(Duel 1)
*LETS ROCK!*
It’d be cool if his streams were split 50/50 cs and Val because I like his cs streams but the Val ones are always great too
@16:10 Ah yes, the days where JasonR and Tarik played together.
wake up babe, third tarik video
Was there supposed to be a point from this video or was it just clickbait to end up explaining tarik’s history and just show clips?
"No wonder it f*cking died". Meanwhile half a year ago CS:GO had a Stockholm Major with a viewership record Valorant will not beat in their future history
Fr bro, I don't know what that guy was on, he must be smoking some shit.
shaz has always been a clown lmfao
Shaz is irritating to watch honestly
obviously valorant will surpass that in the future but ya ofc cs isnt dead
@@floopyjoe500 2.7 millions of viewers? idk man, should be some super hyped Valorant match
Tarik "Tarik" Tarik
Says sweaty competition but the first clip they play is him smurfing in diamond
15:56 good stuff
I want to ask dimitri that was navi vs vitality the best final and one sided match
Honestly the main thing I hate about CS is how secretive the fucking ranks are. Its unneeded.
I started playing fps like a year and a half ago after playing MOBAs for like 15years and I started with CS but couldn’t handle the cheaters and left immediately :( now I enjoy both Val and CS but I just play Val most of the time since I have more skins there :P
everyone: arguing about Val and Cs
Gigachads: playing Minecraft with the bois
The CS vs Valorant war isn't as bad as people think. I still remember how cancer the LoL vs Dota kids were 10 years ago
Tarik would be playing CS if all the NA CS pros didn't switch to valorant. There's more content to be farmed in valorant cos theres more people he knows playing it. People make the content not the game.
9:52 JARSO.!
Happy for him, games are to enjoy cs or valorant though I can never play valorant. Cs is love.
I love how Tarik died two times because of Sova
Literal war criminal for both games😂😂😂😂
What game is better?
Whatever game you have more fun with. Stop looking for validation.
Hope he will play more when the source 2 comes out
Yeaaah, that never happened
Yeah I could watch this but what I could also do is wait for the inevitable react session tarik will do and then watch that
It sucks. i'm between both and play both frequently. just running between both.
Tarik does not hate on CS, stupid video honestly. He likes both games and has played CS for 15 years, hes enjoying Valorant, its that simple. Honestly 90% of his viewers including me watch Tarik for tarik hes just that good of a personality.
its like melee vs ultimate
Miss his CS streams they were funny
NA will never let us forget that One major
Funny thing is Valorant players rarely think about CS but Valorant lives rent free in the heads of most CS players.
Val fixed every issue that I had with CS. Personally Val is more fun to watch. CS has some absolutely amazing moments. But that just it. They're moments. In Val, yeah there are boring rounds. But for me personally it's more fun to watch as a whole. And that's just talking about the watching aspect. Playing CS just never clicked with me. It is quite literally a "Mad cuz bad" situation. I do respect the impact it has had on Val and Esports as a whole. Definitely a classic and one of the best shooters to come out ever.
Yes man. Both game hv great thrilling tension when we watch their tournaments. But Val, its just something else. The dynamic due to agent selection, role, nerf, buff, is just so fun to watch. I always found something intresting each tournaments.
3:45 was so funny HAHAHAHAHA
Tarık Çelik (Çelik means steel in turkish) He is the MAN OF STEEL!!!
there is beef between val and cs pro scenes? i thought cs scene was dead for years
Tarik must hate sova mains judging from these clips lmao 3:10
This whole video could have been boiled down to "Val makes tarik more money in NA"
i liked the way u pronounced his name. everyone prounounce it as "TAEARRIQ"
Because csgo offers csgo prime subscription to show rank this is the main reason for me that's why csgo players gone to valorant side
We heckin love Tarik!
the rise of the content king
Man, all the utl really makes me wanna go play cs ranked but then I remember I’d probably be trash at cs
You guys dont know anything about tarik opinion about csgo and valorant tarik has always stated that you can enjoy both games and that you shouldnt argue wich game is better than the other he like to tease both communities in a fun way not just to please the csgo community or the valorant community
Did he Say dismantle
Valorant oficial Istambul vct = 40k viewers
Tarik's stream of the sabe championship = 90k simultâneos viesse he is NA version of gaules in teams of contente creating