When you perform input shaping and calibration the CFS should be loaded its weight will affect vibration and that is what its canceling out. Mass affects center of gravity and vibration.
@@stevendunn264 ooh that is a really good point I didn't even think of that. And now I'm trying to remember if I did the calibration and input shaping before or after I had the CFS on the top. Part of me would like to say that I had it on there before I did the input shaping and calibration but I have to double check my footage :) , thank you for the great feedback and thanks for watching
Good review of this printer! To be honest, is the first one that says good things about this printer. I want this printer, i'm a Bambu Labs "fanboy" but, this printer cost the same as the X1C and its way more bigger
That's a really excellent way to look at it and that's exactly how I looked at it as well. I think when it comes down to it, it's going to depend on what you're trying to do and what you're willing to spend. My hope is that they will bring down the price eventually and make it even more attractive. Anyway thanks for the feedback and compliment and of course thanks for watching 😁
I just ordered a K2 today and can’t wait to see what it can do. I’m a rare breed I suppose but I love creality after my first ender 3 and love it for all the problems I had to sort out over the years. Being able to click print on a file does not mean you know how to 3D print, you only know how to buy a printer that knows how to 3D print. My ender 3 and all the upgrades I did to it taught ME how to 3D print and I’ll forever be thankful for that knowledge. I hope my K2 prints great out of the box but if it doesn’t and I have to do some work I will enjoy that too.
That is so true. You make an excellent point, The reality is we learn from falling and honestly it also makes us more independent when it comes to 3D printing because we don't fall to pieces with something doesn't work right. The fact is that every time we run into issues and we learn from those issues it allows us to diagnose problems in the future without having to be so heavily dependent on technical support from the company. The reality is everything is going to need maintenance. Every machine needs maintenance and the more you can practice on a machine and solve your mistakes or work through those mistakes the better one will be when it comes to 3D printing. Also the fact is that not everything is going to be printable without some adjustment. It's always fantastic when creators try to orient the piece correctly or adjust the part in such a way that it doesn't need supports. But there is definitely a skill set and an art to 3D printing. Anyway excellent feedback and thank you so much for watching
Looks like a great machine. I thoroughly enjoyed my ender 5+. It was my first machine. Now I have strictly bambu machines but I will likely buy this soon if bambu keeps delaying their new one. Happy printing!
There is no doubt that Creality did so many amazing things for the 3D printing community with the ender series. They did really an amazing job in delivering great bedslingers. I'm excited for them to really take things to the next level especially in the corexy Arena. Seeing what they did with their software they're really trying to close the gap with Bambu on making things super user friendly and streamlined. Bambu Is another great option and way to go and I I would totally agree that if Bambu takes too long the K2 Plus maybe your next best bet. But watch out for Anycubic as well their new releases seem really interesting but obviously I'm reserving judgment until I get my hands on their next large format printer.
So when I made the video Creality 6 literally came out the same day after I hit the publish button. Probably just a few hours later it was released. So I had just missed the new feature. However I am going to mention it in the next news wrap up video. Thanks so much for the feedback and thanks so much for watching
Oh wow , what's happening? Maybe I can help. Meantime thanks for watching and sorry you had such a bad experience with your K2, it definitely wasn't what I experienced but of course there are always going to be some lemons out there. Anyway if you like, tell me what you ran into and maybe it's something I know how to resolve. Thanks for watching
@@CaptainCreativity calibration problems, physically crashing issues (it's ran the nozzle into the bed from the side twice), z servo synchronization (it'll spazz out trying to lift off the bottom. Sounds like someone threw a brick in a washing machine on the spin cycle), the bed is badly potato chipped, I absolutely cannot get decent results while bridging... On and on...
@@frp1276and just to confirm you did the calibration after the latest firmware update right ? But calibration aside it definitely sounds like something got damaged in shipping or it was a defective unit from the get go. I only mentioned the firmware thing , because I know many have reported issues when they didn't run the calibration after the firmware. The newest firmware even seems to have more calibration steps. Anyway I am sorry you didn't get to experience the printer the way I got to experience. Is Creality working with you to make things right ?
@CaptainCreativity it arrived with the latest firmware neglecting the one that just dropped with belt tension issues etc. I've been through a ton of calibration stuff. Some of my prints have come out ok. Many have come out looking like they came off a diy printer from 15 years ago.
The K2 plus costs a little more than an X1C but the print volume is double..... (close loop motos, hot chamber.... and more ...) It arrived 15 days ago, no problem for the moment. Perfect!!!
@@joshwhite4412 The volume is calculated base x height... 250x250x250=15625000 mm3 ( X1C ) 350x350x350=42875000 mm3 ( K2 max ) And mathematically the k2 max has a print volume more than double.. ( 2,744 ..... )
@@joshwhite4412 The volume is calculated base x height... 256x256x256=16777216 mm3 ( X1C ) 350x350x350=42875000 mm3 ( K2 Max ) And mathematically the k2 max has a print volume more than double.. .. ( 2.5555 )
@@joshwhite4412 The volume is calculated base x height... 256x256x256=16777216 mm3 ( X1C ) 350x350x350=42875000 mm3 ( K2 Max ) And mathematically the k2 max has a print volume more than double.. .. ( 2.5555 )
@@joshwhite4412 The volume is calculated base x height... 256x256x256=16777216 mm3 ( X1C ) 350x350x350=42875000 mm3 ( K2 Max ) And mathematically the k2 max has a print volume more than double.. .. ( 2.5555 )
I find it funny that a 2 year old ams is compared to a new one haha the fact that it lasted two years says enough how unique it was so this one (ams) must be better
It's true it's not really the fairest comparison because you're right there is going to be a newer version and I definitely give credit to bambu for their initial innovation. I think mainly my purpose was really to make it important for people to understand that not all multicolor systems are like and obviously things are going to evolve and get better. So for me I really just wanted to convey the fact that there are some major improvements and how they handle multicolor printing and if those people were turned off due to the AMS then this is something to look forward to. Anyway excellent feedback and thank you for commenting as well as watching.
@@christosvolikakis1523 Yes, every company that has RFID tags on filament use their own system... But you can load whatever filament you want just will have to tell the printer what it is
That's a very good question. I'm actually going to be seeing the Creality folks at CES this coming week. I'm going to be asking them all the questions that I was not able to answer from any of the comments. So I'll be asking them your question as well. Anyway great question and thanks for watching
W Bambu kalibracja przepływu jest robiona raz i zapisuje sie do profilu filamentu, jako "calibrated" Myślę, że tu jest tak samo. Gdyby kalibrowało ten sam filament kilka razy, byłoby bez sensu imho.
I like the video. Really good, you took your time, get in every detail, really nice. But one thing maybe for Future Videos. Please do not Compare Pre-Sliced benchys from different Printers. Use your own Sliced benchy and print that file on every printer. Much more realisitc as the presliced stuff. 14 mins. yes, but who knows what they changed in slicer settings to get to this. And its much more realistic in time perspective. Even for Quality: noone knows what setting they use and you wont print with this settings anyway. (They do not use the Creality Standard settings)
You know this is actually fantastic feedback. I've been toying around in my head with the idea of stopping to do benchy tests using their native benchy files for many reasons including the ones that you just mentioned. I totally agree that that would be a much better benchmark and I'm going to consider that going forward. I do want to revisit all the other ones that I've done so at some point I definitely would love to do a showdown across all the printers from 2024 and one of the tests will be a standard benchy that was sliced from The same file with the basic settings enabled. Basically no tweaking which is what the companies do on their particular Benchy G code files. Anyway again fantastic feedback and thank you so much for watching
I just went back to double check so the one that was with 22 hours was on bambu Lab P1P. The same print for the Spiderman helmet took the K2 Plus 15 hours and change. The Iron Giant helmet on the K2 took 8 hours and change. Thanks for watching
Will heat from the printer help heat/dry Filiment in the CFS? Is there a rise in temp on the CFS when printing?
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There's a mod you can perform, thanks to the community, that involves gutting a Space Pi 2's internals to put into the CFS (which apparently does have provisions for heating, so there might be a version 2 in the future). I've looked into this mod, the trouble is getting the parts to do so without needlessly wrecking a working Space Pi 2. Hoping Creality will allow the sale of individual parts.
Well, its better than the prusa core one, in size and price. Yeah, the price isn't bad considering it comes with a multicolor and it has a very big print volume. I would wait a year, creality 3d printers usually drop in price by quite a bit. I'll wait and see if its going to be a reliable machine or not. Its too early to tell.
I got an X1C mid December and within a day or two had the x axis issue that's been around since launch. It took them multiple tickets to finally get the code to run to confirm that, then no offer of refund replacement etc. Offered the new rod assembly and a 'do it yourself lol'. That's like a day plus of my time that has been deemed worthless, to rebuild a NEW printer. I genuinely hope bambu gets demolished by everyone else making multi axis machines.
It always sucks and it's sad to hear when people get printers that end up being lemons and then the companies basically put the consumer through a factory assembly process to get there out of the box printers up and running. I think when it comes to bambu Lab they have done a lot to lower the bar of entry for users to get into this space and they really kicked off a new era of competition in the 3D printing space. It's now going to be up to Bambu to hold on to that reputation and to continue to innovate because the rest of the industry is clearly stepping up to the challenge. So certainly now more than ever they should really be making their customer support and customer experience better than ever because if you don't even keep that going and other companies are starting to release printers with equal quality and sometimes that even better pricing then the least you could do is make sure that you're keeping your customers happy. I hope they end up doing right by you. Thank you for sharing your feedback and your experience and thank you so much for watching.
I actually went to a local store today that had a k2 and went “aww man I wish I could see it running” but it was running, just printin away nice and quiet like while my x1c sounds like an 80s fair ground ride. So your vid and that little visit just sold me lol.
You know what I'm glad to hear you say that because I really thought I was making a mistake in the comparison. I was really just so shocked how much faster the prints we're coming out, I was starting to second guess whether or not I was comparing apples to apples. Anyway thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback
This is a very Great video : ))). would you be interested in helping with some programs for kids and 3D printing to reach perspective subs and a sponsorship program to attract funds? Jeff. I'm sending you an email with my website. Loved your presentation and info. thank you.
Not bad and I‘m glad we have now 3 alternatives in the same range
When you perform input shaping and calibration the CFS should be loaded its weight will affect vibration and that is what its canceling out. Mass affects center of gravity and vibration.
@@stevendunn264 ooh that is a really good point I didn't even think of that. And now I'm trying to remember if I did the calibration and input shaping before or after I had the CFS on the top. Part of me would like to say that I had it on there before I did the input shaping and calibration but I have to double check my footage :) , thank you for the great feedback and thanks for watching
Good review of this printer! To be honest, is the first one that says good things about this printer. I want this printer, i'm a Bambu Labs "fanboy" but, this printer cost the same as the X1C and its way more bigger
That's a really excellent way to look at it and that's exactly how I looked at it as well. I think when it comes down to it, it's going to depend on what you're trying to do and what you're willing to spend. My hope is that they will bring down the price eventually and make it even more attractive. Anyway thanks for the feedback and compliment and of course thanks for watching 😁
Excelente tu descripción e instalación de K2 Plus Combo. Espero con paciencia la Mía 😊
Great unboxing video - Thanks!
I just ordered a K2 today and can’t wait to see what it can do. I’m a rare breed I suppose but I love creality after my first ender 3 and love it for all the problems I had to sort out over the years. Being able to click print on a file does not mean you know how to 3D print, you only know how to buy a printer that knows how to 3D print. My ender 3 and all the upgrades I did to it taught ME how to 3D print and I’ll forever be thankful for that knowledge. I hope my K2 prints great out of the box but if it doesn’t and I have to do some work I will enjoy that too.
That is so true. You make an excellent point, The reality is we learn from falling and honestly it also makes us more independent when it comes to 3D printing because we don't fall to pieces with something doesn't work right. The fact is that every time we run into issues and we learn from those issues it allows us to diagnose problems in the future without having to be so heavily dependent on technical support from the company. The reality is everything is going to need maintenance. Every machine needs maintenance and the more you can practice on a machine and solve your mistakes or work through those mistakes the better one will be when it comes to 3D printing. Also the fact is that not everything is going to be printable without some adjustment. It's always fantastic when creators try to orient the piece correctly or adjust the part in such a way that it doesn't need supports. But there is definitely a skill set and an art to 3D printing. Anyway excellent feedback and thank you so much for watching
good luck getting it i ordered one over a month ago and still no tracking I'm gonna cancel and get a bambu x1c
This kind of comments make me not buy this printer.
Looks like a great machine. I thoroughly enjoyed my ender 5+. It was my first machine. Now I have strictly bambu machines but I will likely buy this soon if bambu keeps delaying their new one.
Happy printing!
There is no doubt that Creality did so many amazing things for the 3D printing community with the ender series. They did really an amazing job in delivering great bedslingers. I'm excited for them to really take things to the next level especially in the corexy Arena. Seeing what they did with their software they're really trying to close the gap with Bambu on making things super user friendly and streamlined. Bambu Is another great option and way to go and I I would totally agree that if Bambu takes too long the K2 Plus maybe your next best bet. But watch out for Anycubic as well their new releases seem really interesting but obviously I'm reserving judgment until I get my hands on their next large format printer.
@CaptainCreativity Well I got a k3 max coming in March, time will tell for sure. 😊
Great video. Thanks you for this :)
you already did the calibration, you can uncheck it when sending to print from the slicer
Also you can right click on the object and select auto arrange. Creality print 6 has auto oritent
So when I made the video Creality 6 literally came out the same day after I hit the publish button. Probably just a few hours later it was released. So I had just missed the new feature. However I am going to mention it in the next news wrap up video. Thanks so much for the feedback and thanks so much for watching
@@CaptainCreativity Thank you for creating content.
So far I've had a mind boggling amount of trouble with my K2. Serious buyers remorse
Oh wow , what's happening? Maybe I can help. Meantime thanks for watching and sorry you had such a bad experience with your K2, it definitely wasn't what I experienced but of course there are always going to be some lemons out there. Anyway if you like, tell me what you ran into and maybe it's something I know how to resolve. Thanks for watching
@@CaptainCreativity calibration problems, physically crashing issues (it's ran the nozzle into the bed from the side twice), z servo synchronization (it'll spazz out trying to lift off the bottom. Sounds like someone threw a brick in a washing machine on the spin cycle), the bed is badly potato chipped, I absolutely cannot get decent results while bridging... On and on...
@CaptainCreativity my A1 Mini produces higher quality prints without tuning
@@frp1276and just to confirm you did the calibration after the latest firmware update right ? But calibration aside it definitely sounds like something got damaged in shipping or it was a defective unit from the get go. I only mentioned the firmware thing , because I know many have reported issues when they didn't run the calibration after the firmware. The newest firmware even seems to have more calibration steps. Anyway I am sorry you didn't get to experience the printer the way I got to experience. Is Creality working with you to make things right ?
@CaptainCreativity it arrived with the latest firmware neglecting the one that just dropped with belt tension issues etc.
I've been through a ton of calibration stuff. Some of my prints have come out ok. Many have come out looking like they came off a diy printer from 15 years ago.
The K2 plus costs a little more than an X1C but the print volume is double..... (close loop motos, hot chamber.... and more ...)
It arrived 15 days ago, no problem for the moment. Perfect!!!
I mean.. yes and No. The print volume is not double, simple math. 256mmx2 = 512 MM.. this is only 350mm.
@@joshwhite4412 The volume is calculated base x height...
250x250x250=15625000 mm3 ( X1C )
350x350x350=42875000 mm3 ( K2 max )
And mathematically the k2 max has a print volume more than double.. ( 2,744 ..... )
@@joshwhite4412 The volume is calculated base x height...
256x256x256=16777216 mm3 ( X1C )
350x350x350=42875000 mm3 ( K2 Max )
And mathematically the k2 max has a print volume more than double.. .. ( 2.5555 )
@@joshwhite4412 The volume is calculated base x height...
256x256x256=16777216 mm3 ( X1C )
350x350x350=42875000 mm3 ( K2 Max )
And mathematically the k2 max has a print volume more than double.. .. ( 2.5555 )
@@joshwhite4412 The volume is calculated base x height...
256x256x256=16777216 mm3 ( X1C )
350x350x350=42875000 mm3 ( K2 Max )
And mathematically the k2 max has a print volume more than double.. .. ( 2.5555 )
what the hell! ive only had my Bambu X1c for a month! 😱
X1C is still superior to the K2 plus.
Auto orient is in the software.
The "auto" button is on the right side of the plate.
It is now!!! Creality just released it in 6.0 just after I posted the video , just bad timing for me. But glad it's there. Thanks for watching
I find it funny that a 2 year old ams is compared to a new one haha the fact that it lasted two years says enough how unique it was so this one (ams) must be better
It's true it's not really the fairest comparison because you're right there is going to be a newer version and I definitely give credit to bambu for their initial innovation. I think mainly my purpose was really to make it important for people to understand that not all multicolor systems are like and obviously things are going to evolve and get better. So for me I really just wanted to convey the fact that there are some major improvements and how they handle multicolor printing and if those people were turned off due to the AMS then this is something to look forward to. Anyway excellent feedback and thank you for commenting as well as watching.
K2 (no CFS) is $1000 right now on eBay. The sv-08 is $494…. Pretty easy decision for me as of right now.
Will the RFID read other Filiment brand rolls (BAMBU)?
No as they are both using proprietary encoded data.
Where is the abs test.. pla it's easy..
Does Creality have proprietary rfid tags on filament like Bambu?
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Yes, every company that has RFID tags on filament use their own system...
But you can load whatever filament you want just will have to tell the printer what it is
yes
@babamatt3o670
Yes, but you can use any filament you want
Why is the CFS not compatible with PVA? Is it super brittle?
That's a very good question. I'm actually going to be seeing the Creality folks at CES this coming week. I'm going to be asking them all the questions that I was not able to answer from any of the comments. So I'll be asking them your question as well. Anyway great question and thanks for watching
why o why aren't you guys doing red white and freaking blue placement
At that price point I’ll just wait for Bambu’s next move before jumping the fence 😅😅😅😅😊
Get ready to take out a loan for Bambu 300+mm printer
W Bambu kalibracja przepływu jest robiona raz i zapisuje sie do profilu filamentu, jako "calibrated"
Myślę, że tu jest tak samo. Gdyby kalibrowało ten sam filament kilka razy, byłoby bez sensu imho.
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I like the video. Really good, you took your time, get in every detail, really nice. But one thing maybe for Future Videos. Please do not Compare Pre-Sliced benchys from different Printers.
Use your own Sliced benchy and print that file on every printer. Much more realisitc as the presliced stuff. 14 mins. yes, but who knows what they changed in slicer settings to get to this. And its much more realistic in time perspective. Even for Quality: noone knows what setting they use and you wont print with this settings anyway. (They do not use the Creality Standard settings)
You know this is actually fantastic feedback. I've been toying around in my head with the idea of stopping to do benchy tests using their native benchy files for many reasons including the ones that you just mentioned. I totally agree that that would be a much better benchmark and I'm going to consider that going forward. I do want to revisit all the other ones that I've done so at some point I definitely would love to do a showdown across all the printers from 2024 and one of the tests will be a standard benchy that was sliced from The same file with the basic settings enabled. Basically no tweaking which is what the companies do on their particular Benchy G code files. Anyway again fantastic feedback and thank you so much for watching
How long did it actually take to print, the 15 hours or 22 hours?
I just went back to double check so the one that was with 22 hours was on bambu Lab P1P. The same print for the Spiderman helmet took the K2 Plus 15 hours and change. The Iron Giant helmet on the K2 took 8 hours and change. Thanks for watching
Will heat from the printer help heat/dry Filiment in the CFS? Is there a rise in temp on the CFS when printing?
There's a mod you can perform, thanks to the community, that involves gutting a Space Pi 2's internals to put into the CFS (which apparently does have provisions for heating, so there might be a version 2 in the future).
I've looked into this mod, the trouble is getting the parts to do so without needlessly wrecking a working Space Pi 2. Hoping Creality will allow the sale of individual parts.
The K2 Plus for 1200Euro? WTF... No way...
Well, its better than the prusa core one, in size and price. Yeah, the price isn't bad considering it comes with a multicolor and it has a very big print volume. I would wait a year, creality 3d printers usually drop in price by quite a bit. I'll wait and see if its going to be a reliable machine or not. Its too early to tell.
Still cant forgive creality for the shitty ender experience
And their "Here's a partial working printer, make it work for us" mentality. I'll take a Bambu Labs or FlashForge any day of the week over a Creality.
I got an X1C mid December and within a day or two had the x axis issue that's been around since launch. It took them multiple tickets to finally get the code to run to confirm that, then no offer of refund replacement etc. Offered the new rod assembly and a 'do it yourself lol'. That's like a day plus of my time that has been deemed worthless, to rebuild a NEW printer. I genuinely hope bambu gets demolished by everyone else making multi axis machines.
It always sucks and it's sad to hear when people get printers that end up being lemons and then the companies basically put the consumer through a factory assembly process to get there out of the box printers up and running. I think when it comes to bambu Lab they have done a lot to lower the bar of entry for users to get into this space and they really kicked off a new era of competition in the 3D printing space. It's now going to be up to Bambu to hold on to that reputation and to continue to innovate because the rest of the industry is clearly stepping up to the challenge. So certainly now more than ever they should really be making their customer support and customer experience better than ever because if you don't even keep that going and other companies are starting to release printers with equal quality and sometimes that even better pricing then the least you could do is make sure that you're keeping your customers happy. I hope they end up doing right by you. Thank you for sharing your feedback and your experience and thank you so much for watching.
I actually went to a local store today that had a k2 and went “aww man I wish I could see it running” but it was running, just printin away nice and quiet like while my x1c sounds like an 80s fair ground ride. So your vid and that little visit just sold me lol.
K2 is about 15-20% faster than Bambu.
You know what I'm glad to hear you say that because I really thought I was making a mistake in the comparison. I was really just so shocked how much faster the prints we're coming out, I was starting to second guess whether or not I was comparing apples to apples. Anyway thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback
also costs 3x the p1s combo price. edit: correction it's 2x the combo price.
@@jojomanm16
Print me something on your p1s that 320mm by 320mm
@@nekrosoft13 size is most definitely a value adder but i don't see a 2x increase being entirely justified.
@@jojomanm16
You will, once you see the price of Bambu printer with 300+mm size
The only fact that they are simply copies of each other makes them unworthy of purchase.
This is a very Great video : ))). would you be interested in helping with some programs for kids and 3D printing to reach perspective subs and a sponsorship program to attract funds? Jeff. I'm sending you an email with my website. Loved your presentation and info. thank you.
@@e2U awesome, thank you for watching and I'll look out for the info.