My dad has a 2023 Lucid Air Touring, his touch screen is like lightening fast. He use to own the Model X Plaid, had on going , never ending multiple issues with the car, The car ended up being a lemon, got his $$ back, He Loves the Lucid, ride comfort and range
All Auto-Makers who want consumers to purchase their products especially EVs are clueless to just how horrible the CCS charging network is. Great content! Looking forward to what’s next on the horizon! Cheers!
You know, I see guys in Lucid's and I tend to think that is a world where everything is perfect. Thanks for filling us in on the issues. You are not nitpicking as you should expect a lot given the price point.
This family drives me nutz. You buy a EV that you know that uses CCS and you admit you are a road warrior but shocked charging is crap. Like no real common sense in this family.
I have a 23 Tesla MYLR I was forced to used Electrify America in the Islamorada as there are no superchargers there. All units were derated and slow - people whom have never experienced using a supercharger are going to be in for a pleasant awakening how ez the Tesla Superchargers and how fast!
I’m in the process of redesigning the civil engineering in Islamorada. We have electrical contracts with some in our firm that partner with Tesla on a few projects. Hopefully installations coming soon
If you spend $100k plus on a vehicle, it should be able to do more than a Chevy Bolt. It seems if you need to charge outside your home area, the car has problems.
Thank you for sharing this. Dave. I like Lucid cars myself and I own a Model S. There are plenty nice EVs out there and coming, but as you have described in this video just how far ahead Tesla is amongst the others. Tesla has its quirks and imperfections, but they do think more about the peoples use when they make designs. I just wish Tesla would add Waze and Pandora to the system.
Despite the predictable howling from the Lucid fanboys, Dave’s exactly right. My 8 year old MS has a better UI than my 23 Lucid Touring. I’m very disappointed in Lucid so far, and very concerned about their future. And, my concern has nothing to do with the charging infrastructure. Lucid makes a beautiful car that oozes luxury and advanced architecture, but is compromised by poorly designed electronics and clunky interfaces.
Even as I own a Y, live in Calif, I still occasionally have range anxiety. E.g. return home from Santa Barbara, we found out Hw1 was closed. Wasted 75 mile of 🔋 range to backtrack. Another time, pull in Stockton/Hwy99 SuperCharger, it was full. Imagine what it'd be like in busy holidays as Teslas multiply like rabbits. So CCS issues by itself will cause Lucid to fail. What is an expensive car that's no good for road trips?
One Lucid Air owner in germany wants to sue lucid because they refuse to take it back since lucid promised a lot of features the car does not have in its the current state. Considering the price. This is a joke how they delievered this car here in EU. At least your adaptive cruise control works 🤣
Ya they probably won't take it back cause they're really struggling to sell the cars and losing tons of money. I wouldn't feel confident buying from a company which may go under unless the Saudis buy them out
I sold my Mini SE for a gas one, and it was really more about the charging stations than the lack of range on the car. It was such a good car in town but just can’t go out of the city because of the charging infrastructure or lack thereof.
@@rempha thank you! I didn't know that, I have never charged in the US, therefore I understand better that it's not that useable. The CCS2 over here is anywhere - it works well, no complains. I am driving also long distance with an EV across Europe, prior to that I only used a compact EV for city driving and charged it with a Level 2 plug overnight.
That is 1 thing I tip my hat to Tesla for...their emphasis on software and how everything works pretty well together. You definitely lose in the luxury end of things when it comes to interior materials and all that. No doubt about that. But man my base model 3 is really functional...esp the center display.
Thank you for the commentary Dave. I didn’t plan on buying a Lucid. Now I definitely plan on not buying a Lucid. Picked up a Tesla 23’ Model S last week primarily for why you chose to sell the Lucid….. charging infrastructure. Tesla is years ahead of the competition.
Not in the Cape Coral / Fort Myers area they're not. EVs are for locals who charge at home. If you're on the road and passing through ft myers / cape coral good luck finding a public supercharger to conveniently top up at. That's where he's filming at. When I thought about renting a Tesla and checked on the charging infrastructure there it totally sucked. I feel sorry for those who fly in and rent a Tesla without checking ahead on the charging situation first. ICE FTW if you're going to be visiting Cape Coral. The only Tesla Supercharger in Cape Coral is located at the downtown Marriott and it's for the exclusive use of Hotel guests. There is one of them. Check with the front desk to use it.
Cape Coral is the 8th largest city in Florida with a population of nearly a quarter-million people by the way. You'd think there'd be more than one supercharger that's for the exclusive use of Hotel guests.
I'll miss the Lucid content. I worry that if you go to Tesla only content that this will just turn into another Tesla channel. I like some real information about other cars.
I just got my Lucid Air Pure a month ago despite seeing all of the issues Dave a Kyle experienced. I have yet to see the signet surge. Maybe the 700v lucids fast charge better than the 900v versions?
The software in this car is garbage. For all the talk about how the tech in the Lucid is top of the line this video really lays bare all the deficiencies this car has. I think Lucid is in real trouble.
Dave I received my Lucid last May. I agree with some of your comments. Although on my car the reaction time for the passenger function changing the seat is much faster. Also My slow driving is very smooth maybe some things have changed. Except for one quirk where my volume got stock last week the software seems to be faster. The charging network is not good. If you do not mind charging at home there are no issues but this is a big problem for all EV's not on the Tesla network. Lastly I agree on the Dream Drive Pro. One of my employees bought a model three and the software is really nice. I was hoping when I received my car as I ordered a Stealth Model Air Touring that the software for the Dream Drive Pro would wow me. Honestly It is one of my biggest issue. Lastly one thing I am surprised that was not brought up and maybe it is me as I use the key. Sometimes my key does not work and i will sit outside the car and have to open the car with my phone. I tried to setup my phones bluetooth as a key but I cannot get it to work. If they work some of these things out I believe it is a really nice car. I love how it looks how it drives and for the most part am a happy with it but they need to work on the software.
Definitely they would improve over the time with software updates. Even Tesla faced a lot of issues in their earlier stages. Their enhanced autopilot and Fsd are crazy when they were released. Similar way Lucid would improve these things over the time. But CCS charger network is way scary than all...
Dave, thanks for posting the feedback. I hope that Lucid Engineers take it seriously. There's nothing better than live demonstration of the concerns, especially when it comes with the intentions of improving the experience. I had the Model 3 (as well), and agree that the slow driving (traffic) was pretty smooth, so it should definitely be as smooth or smoother in the Lucid. Providing information such as the name of the song, or pet mode (temp inside the vehicle), are very valid and simple points. I had suggested to Tesla and Elon, that they consider allowing feedback from drivers after a vehicle initiated hard brake event to determine if it was legitimate or not... because my Model 3 had slammed on the brakes on the highway due to a falling leaf (it was a scary event). That instant feedback from the Driver along with the information captured by the vehicle should allow for useful datapoints for the Engineers involved in the Self-driving and safety features of the vehicle. It seems like you want to help us get better vehicles and I appreciate your efforts. Keep it up!
All true. But, when I drive every Tesla model, they are not nearly as comfortable to drive and the idea that I would have to hunt through screens for a virtual control to control the direction the air is blowing from the vents is a non-starter. I won't, not now, not ever. The BMW i5 and i7 probably do all of this better, but they lack the range and usable space. For now, Lucid is the best available, but they better get on it or they'll be left behind pretty quickly.
$10,000 for Lucid “Dream Drive” which is the same as the free basic Tesla autopilot with ACC and lane centering. That is an overcharged feature, which Lucid never addressed updates. Shame on Lucid.
Thanks for update. Get the X. I did order a X. Problem… likely will not get in time for section 179 this year. Looks like Jan 2024 delivery. Wait times are up unless find new one at Tesla “in stock”. Color free is good. Can add FSD later to keep price where it should be. Wish Tesla had power boost option like the do on model Y. Would be easy to do. For those that do not need a Plaid with lower range.
💯 I have a new regular X... I truly believe it will become DAVE's favorite EV.... HOPING he gets one and does a long-term review... I am sure he will teach me so much about my own new car....😊
@@USNEM BTW: I have owned a new Model X refresh for 6 months.... NOT one service issue... Not one complaint... Perhaps, instead of watching videos try owning one first... 😊 One of the many benefits of a Tesla is that they are constantly improving ever model, every day...
How much did this gentleman sell his Lucid for?? I see less than 2yr old Lucids with low miles selling used for less than 50% of it's Original price. Only lease these vehicles at Low monthly payments & Zero to little drive Off.......
13:30…… Now finally something important. This is where Tesla model s’s smoke lucid. It’s not even close. I LOVE that I can turn on the car’s assist feature and just take a 1/2 nap while waiting for traffic to clear. Lucid’s suck in this area. The patents on this stuff are open sourced through Tesla. Why in the f*** would lucid just not borrow this feature from Tesla? Because they aren’t especially bright? Who knows.
Very appreciative of the comments. I own a Lucid too, and would not trade it for anything. Far from being perfect, but also far more advanced than most. The driving experience is beyond amazing, and with every software update it only keeps getting better. ‘My pet is ok’ seriously….
This is the best ownership review I've come across on Lucid Air. We own one. His talking points succinct match our experience. It's a great driving car marred by lousy UX/UI from underpolished software. It's a great roadtrip car beset by EA shenanigans. Knowing what we know now, we would've still chosen it over EQE, IX or Models S/X. But at its price point, it shouldn't have felt like a late beta product.
Let’s just be honest here. Lucid just sucks ass. I test drove and it’s jerky not refined. It’s worse than model 3. Dave is just being super nicely complaining here.
Thanks for sharing ur experiences. Yes the car is gorgeous but can’t only think of that. Little things on ur day to day add up if it’s annoying. Lucid needs to drop prices bc it won’t sell at all.
I don't get it. You are selling the Lucid because of all of these supposedly issues yet you said you may give the new Lucid Suv a look when it comes out? Wouldn't you run into the same issues that you already hate to begin with? Sounds like you should stick with the tried and true Tesla Model 3 or get a new Model S for more range.
Spent 150k on lucid gt, software UI is terrible. Over the air update improvements are so slow. Didn't see much software improvement over the last 14 months. Very disappointing
Wow after looking at this I feel so blessed that I bought a Tesla as these “niggles” don’t exist whatsoever, everything is like a dream come true. Ok lucid is ultra lux but I would any day choose practicality over luxury & I have owned the best luxury ICE vehicles but Tesla just makes it so logical.
For me, I’m willing to overlook a few luxuries (fine leather, CarPlay, ultimate range) for a smooth ecosystem and highest engineering/technology/safety. I want an established brand with solid financials, management and proven execution. Tesla has incredible software engineers, hardware and innovation. FSD is next level compared to others. Max range isn’t really my concern even with my old Model X-175k miles and 220 max range. I can travel SoCal to NorCal, Vegas albeit with more charging.
Hmmm...I guess by the way you put it, if I had to road trip like ALL the time, then yeah, I would likely not keep my non-Tesla EV. But for normal use (what I think of as normal anyway) of road tripping of 1 - 3 road trips a year and the rest daily driving with charging available at home, I couldnt see my way to changing up bc of a few issues with CCS charging. And yes, I've only had less than a handful in about 3 years. With the whole NACS about to become (it really already has) the standard anyway and an adapter is all that'll be needed for use of the SC network next year, I'm good. I do appreciate your viewpoint as it does provide much value!
10:00……get the visor retrofitted to collapse. I know they should have thought of that but it’s an easy fix. Again. It’s common to make a lot of these mistakes in the cars infancy. That’s why the Tesla model s long range is so much better.
Interesting comments! I was considering BMW electrics but with their insistence to stay with CCS and partner with "like-minded" companies and build their own network, BMW was removed as an EV candidate. I own a BMW, so I have nothing against the Brand, outside of their nutty pricing. If Tesla had lowered the price of their product line, and in particular the "S" about 2 weeks before they actually did, a Tesla "S" would be sitting in my garage instead of a BMW. I think I'll go with the company that can, by OTA updates, unlock an additional 100HP
Legacy ICE brands have a LONG way to go to catch Tesla. So long, in fact, that anyone looking to buy anything other than Tesla in 2023 is going to suffer. Seriously. It's either Tesla, or ICE for me right now. Couldn't even imagine owning another EV.
@@thegrandpencil4374 I'd have to agree with you., at least, as of 2023. I'm not going to buy into any manufactuer's futures claims, especialy when it comes to charging networks. Doing so would almost be like buying into "roboTeslas" roaming the streets in 2020
Your reason is the same reason I got rid of my Audi etron. I too, take many road trips and I just got tired of the non-Tesla charging infrastructure here in the US. Pitiful and getting worse, IMHO.
You can charge on the Tesla network in early 2025 (one year). Also, the visors would drive me nuts. Lastly, let us know what you think of the Lucid Gravity and maybe hold onto your Model 3 until 2025
I wonder why is it that the US is so incapable of sorting out the charging situation? In some part of the world it's a nonissue and not something you'd even have to consider while choosing a car. Currently out of what's available in the US connector wise, the nacs seem like a winning option due to inertia alone, so why not just roll with it for now - it's not like 3 phase power is around the corner in most US locations. But even so, the protocol is essentially CCS for all cars, so how in the name of ass are EA and others incapable of doing something that is commonplace in many parts of the world? Granted, using CCS2 but still.
Thank you David for the user-perspective view - which is great! They ask for a lot of money....and this does not look like a luxury car inside though. Its half baked? They still need to put a lot of work into it.
I saw this coming many episodes ago. Dave and Kathy were very pissed about the CCS network. Lucid has a very long way to go to hold a candle to Tesla in so many ways. I hope Dave made money on the sale of his Lucid. He bought it for $50K under list price.
Much frustration is rooted in high expectations of technology. Folks would be much happier if we depended on simpler things. Manual seats, buttons, knobs, air louvers and such. Automating everything and activating everything on a screen is just setting us up for disappointment.
5:32 I feel like that's a quirk of Apple Carplay and sounds in general like they compromised on the processing and computer in general. At that price point, it should have some of the best on the market to ensure a smooth and seemless experience. Its a luxury electric vehicl after all.
Interesting he's in Fort Myers. Across the river in Cape Coral there's all of 1 Tesla Supercharger available, not really, unless you're a guest of the Marriott hotel it's located at. See the front desk to use it. The Tesla supercharging options in Fort Myers while better didn't look great either. Was thinking about renting a Hertz Tesla but yeah screw that. Really surprised Cape Coral a city of nearly a quarter-million people had one supercharger and it's for the exclusive use of guests of the hotel. You'll see quite a few EVs on the road too, they're all locals who charge at home. If you're a visitor who's traveling and are looking for a Supercharger in Cape Coral you are boned!
I GOT TO GAS STATION 100 LEFT ON CHARGE OH IO WAS FANCED UP IN YOUNGSTOWN AREA HAD 77 MILES TO GO HOME UNBELIVABLE WHY NO UPDATE ON IF IS CLOSED OR NOT BARLY MADE HOME IN CLEVELAND WE HAVE ONLY 2 ELECT AMERICA
You list many wishes in the video…I wish Dave would keep a car for 1 FULL YEAR! Someone call Guinness Book of World Records (if) that happens 😂. Can you do a video recapping every car you have ever owned? That would get some views! What’s the Over/Under on the Model X Purchase?
Would love to see a vid like that lol! I’d say the model X is a definite as he literally is saying he’s ditching the lucid over CCS so Tesla is still the only choice for now. After that I give the X 6 months lol
Lucid is a Grandpa Car. They’re also just not ready for prime time. Lol. Hope they’ve seen and learned from videos like yours, Dave. Thanks for posting. :)
If it wasn’t a 6 figure car I would say you were being too picky. But it does cost what it cost. With an elevated price tag comes elevated expectations.
Dave changes cars more often than I change sneakers. Not exaggerating lol
No kidding, I'd feel sorry for him but....
I guess that's what generates content.
My dad has a 2023 Lucid Air Touring, his touch screen is like lightening fast. He use to own the Model X Plaid, had on going , never ending multiple issues with the car, The car ended up being a lemon, got his $$ back, He Loves the Lucid, ride comfort and range
Great to hear!
All Auto-Makers who want consumers to purchase their products especially EVs are clueless to just how horrible the CCS charging network is. Great content! Looking forward to what’s next on the horizon!
Cheers!
And that's because the decision makers at those legacy carmakers drive ICE cars.
Was in Hawaii. Could not find a working charging station on Oahu (except for Tesla)
Good for you Dave. You have enough presence and fame that this will reach the desk of those who need to make decisions on CCS. You’re the man!
Old news.....Lucid can now charge anywhere......plus with the extra range you rarely need to use a supercharger.
Yup, he gave up too early.
You know, I see guys in Lucid's and I tend to think that is a world where everything is perfect. Thanks for filling us in on the issues. You are not nitpicking as you should expect a lot given the price point.
Dave, you may want to consider changing your channel name to "Flip My Car Dave" 😊
Dave changes his cars more than his clothes
He has had at least 11 cars since 2021. 3 id 4s
@@markfitzpatrick6692lol I remember that, the id 4 thing was nuts
This family drives me nutz. You buy a EV that you know that uses CCS and you admit you are a road warrior but shocked charging is crap. Like no real common sense in this family.
I have a 23 Tesla MYLR I was forced to used Electrify America in the Islamorada as there are no superchargers there. All units were derated and slow - people whom have never experienced using a supercharger are going to be in for a pleasant awakening how ez the Tesla Superchargers and how fast!
I’m in the process of redesigning the civil engineering in Islamorada. We have electrical contracts with some in our firm that partner with Tesla on a few projects. Hopefully installations coming soon
Thank you this is great news!@@Qiuziarui
If you spend $100k plus on a vehicle, it should be able to do more than a Chevy Bolt. It seems if you need to charge outside your home area, the car has problems.
Every lucid I see at EA while charging my rivian had no issues with charging.
He sold his too early., But he an always buy another Lucid. He has plenty money.
Thank you for sharing this. Dave. I like Lucid cars myself and I own a Model S. There are plenty nice EVs out there and coming, but as you have described in this video just how far ahead Tesla is amongst the others. Tesla has its quirks and imperfections, but they do think more about the peoples use when they make designs. I just wish Tesla would add Waze and Pandora to the system.
Despite the predictable howling from the Lucid fanboys, Dave’s exactly right. My 8 year old MS has a better UI than my 23 Lucid Touring. I’m very disappointed in Lucid so far, and very concerned about their future. And, my concern has nothing to do with the charging infrastructure. Lucid makes a beautiful car that oozes luxury and advanced architecture, but is compromised by poorly designed electronics and clunky interfaces.
5 months later, has the software improved?
Even as I own a Y, live in Calif, I still occasionally have range anxiety. E.g. return home from Santa Barbara, we found out Hw1 was closed. Wasted 75 mile of 🔋 range to backtrack. Another time, pull in Stockton/Hwy99 SuperCharger, it was full. Imagine what it'd be like in busy holidays as Teslas multiply like rabbits. So CCS issues by itself will cause Lucid to fail. What is an expensive car that's no good for road trips?
Wow, those would be enough issues for me to avoid. I hope they get these things resolved.
Agreed. Would love to remove the sun visor!! That Glass roof would look beautiful with it out of the way
You had one bar of cell service. That probably caused the nav to load slowly.
One Lucid Air owner in germany wants to sue lucid because they refuse to take it back since lucid promised a lot of features the car does not have in its the current state.
Considering the price. This is a joke how they delievered this car here in EU. At least your adaptive cruise control works 🤣
Ya they probably won't take it back cause they're really struggling to sell the cars and losing tons of money. I wouldn't feel confident buying from a company which may go under unless the Saudis buy them out
Should have kept the Lucid. They now have Tesla Supercharger access.
I sold my Mini SE for a gas one, and it was really more about the charging stations than the lack of range on the car. It was such a good car in town but just can’t go out of the city because of the charging infrastructure or lack thereof.
Range is so friggen short though
As a ice car owner it's refreshing to hear these issues as we are constantly reminded by ev owners why there cars are better!
@@fredwilliams7893The issue is solved with Teslas but ya for other EVs the charging network is ass
Now that Lucid has adopted NACS and released the Gravity SUV, it would be interesting to see a redux of this video!
I feel so sorry to read that - CCS / European / German charging network works without hiccups
It does not.
US has CCS 1, EU has CCS 2 which is a smaller connector.
@@rempha yes but they very often just don't work.
@@rempha thank you! I didn't know that, I have never charged in the US, therefore I understand better that it's not that useable. The CCS2 over here is anywhere - it works well, no complains. I am driving also long distance with an EV across Europe, prior to that I only used a compact EV for city driving and charged it with a Level 2 plug overnight.
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 why? It's the same charging hardware right
Love my Lucid and buying more Tesla stock.
How many months do you think it will be before Dave sells his next car?
Going with 3 months unless it's a Tesla.
I’d say 6 ish if it the model X
That is 1 thing I tip my hat to Tesla for...their emphasis on software and how everything works pretty well together. You definitely lose in the luxury end of things when it comes to interior materials and all that. No doubt about that. But man my base model 3 is really functional...esp the center display.
Thank you for the commentary Dave. I didn’t plan on buying a Lucid. Now I definitely plan on not buying a Lucid. Picked up a Tesla 23’ Model S last week primarily for why you chose to sell the Lucid….. charging infrastructure. Tesla is years ahead of the competition.
Only good thing Tesla has made is the superchargers. Car itself is cheap, overprjced for quality.
@@USNEM Please give us a better alternative for better quality.
Not in the Cape Coral / Fort Myers area they're not. EVs are for locals who charge at home. If you're on the road and passing through ft myers / cape coral good luck finding a public supercharger to conveniently top up at. That's where he's filming at. When I thought about renting a Tesla and checked on the charging infrastructure there it totally sucked. I feel sorry for those who fly in and rent a Tesla without checking ahead on the charging situation first. ICE FTW if you're going to be visiting Cape Coral. The only Tesla Supercharger in Cape Coral is located at the downtown Marriott and it's for the exclusive use of Hotel guests. There is one of them. Check with the front desk to use it.
Cape Coral is the 8th largest city in Florida with a population of nearly a quarter-million people by the way. You'd think there'd be more than one supercharger that's for the exclusive use of Hotel guests.
I was thinking of buying a Lucid. Thanks for pointing out the little things.
The lucid SUV looks awesome!
He, above all people, knew what he was getting when he bought the Lucid. More money than sense, IMO. 😗
I'll miss the Lucid content. I worry that if you go to Tesla only content that this will just turn into another Tesla channel. I like some real information about other cars.
Tesla video content is soooo played out, booooring.
TLDR; I wanted my Lucid to be like my Tesla in every way.
At this price point it's not too much to ask.
This is NOT a video that the Lucid advertisement department will be using.
And, the fact that you're supported by Tesla surely couldn't have anything to do with this video.
Sounds like he wants his lucid to be a tesla
I just got my Lucid Air Pure a month ago despite seeing all of the issues Dave a Kyle experienced. I have yet to see the signet surge. Maybe the 700v lucids fast charge better than the 900v versions?
one many reason i have avoided ev, i really considered the lucid. Charging in texas is horrible as well.
At that oprion moving screen you have to sing down and gps will drop into the ipad
The software in this car is garbage. For all the talk about how the tech in the Lucid is top of the line this video really lays bare all the deficiencies this car has. I think Lucid is in real trouble.
Lucid should add an advisory sticker near the charging door “not compatible with 2018 MY Signet chargers “
Dave I received my Lucid last May. I agree with some of your comments. Although on my car the reaction time for the passenger function changing the seat is much faster. Also My slow driving is very smooth maybe some things have changed. Except for one quirk where my volume got stock last week the software seems to be faster. The charging network is not good. If you do not mind charging at home there are no issues but this is a big problem for all EV's not on the Tesla network. Lastly I agree on the Dream Drive Pro. One of my employees bought a model three and the software is really nice. I was hoping when I received my car as I ordered a Stealth Model Air Touring that the software for the Dream Drive Pro would wow me. Honestly It is one of my biggest issue. Lastly one thing I am surprised that was not brought up and maybe it is me as I use the key. Sometimes my key does not work and i will sit outside the car and have to open the car with my phone. I tried to setup my phones bluetooth as a key but I cannot get it to work. If they work some of these things out I believe it is a really nice car. I love how it looks how it drives and for the most part am a happy with it but they need to work on the software.
Definitely they would improve over the time with software updates. Even Tesla faced a lot of issues in their earlier stages. Their enhanced autopilot and Fsd are crazy when they were released. Similar way Lucid would improve these things over the time. But CCS charger network is way scary than all...
Dave, thanks for posting the feedback. I hope that Lucid Engineers take it seriously. There's nothing better than live demonstration of the concerns, especially when it comes with the intentions of improving the experience. I had the Model 3 (as well), and agree that the slow driving (traffic) was pretty smooth, so it should definitely be as smooth or smoother in the Lucid. Providing information such as the name of the song, or pet mode (temp inside the vehicle), are very valid and simple points. I had suggested to Tesla and Elon, that they consider allowing feedback from drivers after a vehicle initiated hard brake event to determine if it was legitimate or not... because my Model 3 had slammed on the brakes on the highway due to a falling leaf (it was a scary event). That instant feedback from the Driver along with the information captured by the vehicle should allow for useful datapoints for the Engineers involved in the Self-driving and safety features of the vehicle. It seems like you want to help us get better vehicles and I appreciate your efforts. Keep it up!
Any regular maintenance you had to do? How many set of tires was used during your ownership?
All true. But, when I drive every Tesla model, they are not nearly as comfortable to drive and the idea that I would have to hunt through screens for a virtual control to control the direction the air is blowing from the vents is a non-starter. I won't, not now, not ever. The BMW i5 and i7 probably do all of this better, but they lack the range and usable space. For now, Lucid is the best available, but they better get on it or they'll be left behind pretty quickly.
On the cables, they sell ones with a 90-degree connector.
$10,000 for Lucid “Dream Drive” which is the same as the free basic Tesla autopilot with ACC and lane centering. That is an overcharged feature, which Lucid never addressed updates. Shame on Lucid.
Thanks for update. Get the X. I did order a X. Problem… likely will not get in time for section 179 this year. Looks like Jan 2024 delivery. Wait times are up unless find new one at Tesla “in stock”. Color free is good. Can add FSD later to keep price where it should be. Wish Tesla had power boost option like the do on model Y. Would be easy to do. For those that do not need a Plaid with lower range.
💯 I have a new regular X... I truly believe it will become DAVE's favorite EV.... HOPING he gets one and does a long-term review... I am sure he will teach me so much about my own new car....😊
X is the most unreliable car in all of cars lol. Can't wait for Dave to have 30 service visits in the first 6 months.
@@USNEM Which year models of X are you referring to ⁉
@@USNEM BTW: I have owned a new Model X refresh for 6 months.... NOT one service issue... Not one complaint... Perhaps, instead of watching videos try owning one first... 😊 One of the many benefits of a Tesla is that they are constantly improving ever model, every day...
BTW You can add FSD anytime, even at time of sale. Software does not change the price for Federal $7500 credit.
The reason for no dog mode is cause Lucid is burning cash quick and that dog is the least of their current priorities.. sadly.
Except of course, they have a dog mode now. So much for your theory
Would you have kept it if ongoing Lucid Air has NACS charging which will be featured in upcoming 2025 model year ?
Wow, software on that thing is abysmal. They aren't even where Tesla was with software back in 2012.
Can’t wait to see your new model s plaid 😅💯
18:50 Why did the passenger seat move forward? 😲
Good observation! I think this may be footage when he was with his daughter in Maine recently. She’s probably in that seat.
How much did this gentleman sell his Lucid for??
I see less than 2yr old Lucids with low miles selling used for less than 50% of it's Original price.
Only lease these vehicles at Low monthly payments & Zero to little drive Off.......
Tesla is still the Ultimate Road tripper. Nationwide electric car acceptance will never arrive until the US charging infrastructure is overhauled.
The model X sun visors are far superior. Wow - those would drive me nuts also.
You would have bought another new car either way. You always do. ;)
13:30…… Now finally something important. This is where Tesla model s’s smoke lucid. It’s not even close. I LOVE that I can turn on the car’s assist feature and just take a 1/2 nap while waiting for traffic to clear. Lucid’s suck in this area.
The patents on this stuff are open sourced through Tesla. Why in the f*** would lucid just not borrow this feature from Tesla? Because they aren’t especially bright? Who knows.
Very appreciative of the comments. I own a Lucid too, and would not trade it for anything. Far from being perfect, but also far more advanced than most. The driving experience is beyond amazing, and with every software update it only keeps getting better. ‘My pet is ok’ seriously….
This is the best ownership review I've come across on Lucid Air. We own one. His talking points succinct match our experience. It's a great driving car marred by lousy UX/UI from underpolished software. It's a great roadtrip car beset by EA shenanigans. Knowing what we know now, we would've still chosen it over EQE, IX or Models S/X. But at its price point, it shouldn't have felt like a late beta product.
Has the software improved over time?
Let’s just be honest here. Lucid just sucks ass. I test drove and it’s jerky not refined. It’s worse than model 3. Dave is just being super nicely complaining here.
Thanks for sharing ur experiences. Yes the car is gorgeous but can’t only think of that. Little things on ur day to day add up if it’s annoying. Lucid needs to drop prices bc it won’t sell at all.
I don't get it. You are selling the Lucid because of all of these supposedly issues yet you said you may give the new Lucid Suv a look when it comes out? Wouldn't you run into the same issues that you already hate to begin with? Sounds like you should stick with the tried and true Tesla Model 3 or get a new Model S for more range.
CCS charging would've been enough but all points are valid here. This is not an inexpensive car nor should it be judged like one.
Spent 150k on lucid gt, software UI is terrible. Over the air update improvements are so slow. Didn't see much software improvement over the last 14 months. Very disappointing
Wow after looking at this I feel so blessed that I bought a Tesla as these “niggles” don’t exist whatsoever, everything is like a dream come true. Ok lucid is ultra lux but I would any day choose practicality over luxury & I have owned the best luxury ICE vehicles but Tesla just makes it so logical.
The fact he mentions "we put a man on the moon" tells me he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. Seriously dude?
I knew he would sell the Lucid. It was only a matter of time. Dave just get a Tesla and stay put, please!
After seeing Dave in the lightning I was sure he was going to buy one not a Tesla
For me, I’m willing to overlook a few luxuries (fine leather, CarPlay, ultimate range) for a smooth ecosystem and highest engineering/technology/safety. I want an established brand with solid financials, management and proven execution. Tesla has incredible software engineers, hardware and innovation. FSD is next level compared to others. Max range isn’t really my concern even with my old Model X-175k miles and 220 max range. I can travel SoCal to NorCal, Vegas albeit with more charging.
Hmmm...I guess by the way you put it, if I had to road trip like ALL the time, then yeah, I would likely not keep my non-Tesla EV. But for normal use (what I think of as normal anyway) of road tripping of 1 - 3 road trips a year and the rest daily driving with charging available at home, I couldnt see my way to changing up bc of a few issues with CCS charging. And yes, I've only had less than a handful in about 3 years. With the whole NACS about to become (it really already has) the standard anyway and an adapter is all that'll be needed for use of the SC network next year, I'm good. I do appreciate your viewpoint as it does provide much value!
10:00……get the visor retrofitted to collapse. I know they should have thought of that but it’s an easy fix. Again. It’s common to make a lot of these mistakes in the cars infancy.
That’s why the Tesla model s long range is so much better.
Interesting comments! I was considering BMW electrics but with their insistence to stay with CCS and partner with "like-minded" companies and build their own network, BMW was removed as an EV candidate. I own a BMW, so I have nothing against the Brand, outside of their nutty pricing. If Tesla had lowered the price of their product line, and in particular the "S" about 2 weeks before they actually did, a Tesla "S" would be sitting in my garage instead of a BMW. I think I'll go with the company that can, by OTA updates, unlock an additional 100HP
Legacy ICE brands have a LONG way to go to catch Tesla. So long, in fact, that anyone looking to buy anything other than Tesla in 2023 is going to suffer. Seriously. It's either Tesla, or ICE for me right now. Couldn't even imagine owning another EV.
@@thegrandpencil4374 I'd have to agree with you., at least, as of 2023. I'm not going to buy into any manufactuer's futures claims, especialy when it comes to charging networks. Doing so would almost be like buying into "roboTeslas" roaming the streets in 2020
Your reason is the same reason I got rid of my Audi etron. I too, take many road trips and I just got tired of the non-Tesla charging infrastructure here in the US. Pitiful and getting worse, IMHO.
hey dave which camera you are recording on at the starting of your video and is it an iphone, also if it is how is your audio so clear?
Why the heck did the passenger seat move forward, seemingly randomly, at 18:49????
18:50 WHY did the seat move???
You can charge on the Tesla network in early 2025 (one year). Also, the visors would drive me nuts. Lastly, let us know what you think of the Lucid Gravity and maybe hold onto your Model 3 until 2025
I wonder why is it that the US is so incapable of sorting out the charging situation? In some part of the world it's a nonissue and not something you'd even have to consider while choosing a car. Currently out of what's available in the US connector wise, the nacs seem like a winning option due to inertia alone, so why not just roll with it for now - it's not like 3 phase power is around the corner in most US locations. But even so, the protocol is essentially CCS for all cars, so how in the name of ass are EA and others incapable of doing something that is commonplace in many parts of the world? Granted, using CCS2 but still.
2025 will be the year many EVs will have real access to NACS, and until then have to deal with CCS.
Thank you David for the user-perspective view - which is great! They ask for a lot of money....and this does not look like a luxury car inside though. Its half baked? They still need to put a lot of work into it.
I saw this coming many episodes ago. Dave and Kathy were very pissed about the CCS network. Lucid has a very long way to go to hold a candle to Tesla in so many ways. I hope Dave made money on the sale of his Lucid. He bought it for $50K under list price.
Much frustration is rooted in high expectations of technology. Folks would be much happier if we depended on simpler things. Manual seats, buttons, knobs, air louvers and such. Automating everything and activating everything on a screen is just setting us up for disappointment.
white man becomes bored with six figure toy that he knew had problems with.....
LOL true
No interest in Lucid. I am not sure the company will be around in three years. Too much money for a potential door stop.
You mean 3 months !
Oh ok so it's not the car it was the lack of charging stations across the country. Lucid rocks!!
5:32 I feel like that's a quirk of Apple Carplay and sounds in general like they compromised on the processing and computer in general. At that price point, it should have some of the best on the market to ensure a smooth and seemless experience. Its a luxury electric vehicl after all.
At the price of the car you can nitpick as much as you want.
Number one that influencer do to get a bigger chance to get higher views is that to pick an interesting title.
That apple carplay padding is due to apple not lucid.
Interesting he's in Fort Myers. Across the river in Cape Coral there's all of 1 Tesla Supercharger available, not really, unless you're a guest of the Marriott hotel it's located at. See the front desk to use it. The Tesla supercharging options in Fort Myers while better didn't look great either. Was thinking about renting a Hertz Tesla but yeah screw that. Really surprised Cape Coral a city of nearly a quarter-million people had one supercharger and it's for the exclusive use of guests of the hotel. You'll see quite a few EVs on the road too, they're all locals who charge at home. If you're a visitor who's traveling and are looking for a Supercharger in Cape Coral you are boned!
I GOT TO GAS STATION 100 LEFT ON CHARGE OH IO WAS FANCED UP IN YOUNGSTOWN AREA HAD 77 MILES TO GO HOME UNBELIVABLE WHY NO UPDATE ON IF IS CLOSED OR NOT BARLY MADE HOME IN CLEVELAND WE HAVE ONLY 2 ELECT AMERICA
HOW ⁉ could anyone, other than a reviewer like DAVE💪❤ ever buy a LUCID....⁉ What a pure waste of MONEY...
Well done. Thank you.
So now I know that any new car he's excited about, he will be disappointed and ditch it soon.
Did it not have anything to do with them potentially going out of business?
Someone, please send this video to Lucid!!!!!
I am sure they watch it - otherwise they are not doing their job but still very good to know 1st hand for us too!
You list many wishes in the video…I wish Dave would keep a car for 1 FULL YEAR! Someone call Guinness Book of World Records (if) that happens 😂. Can you do a video recapping every car you have ever owned? That would get some views! What’s the Over/Under on the Model X Purchase?
Would love to see a vid like that lol! I’d say the model X is a definite as he literally is saying he’s ditching the lucid over CCS so Tesla is still the only choice for now. After that I give the X 6 months lol
Lucid is a Grandpa Car. They’re also just not ready for prime time. Lol. Hope they’ve seen and learned from videos like yours, Dave. Thanks for posting. :)
@@neenerheaddj You're tripping. I guess you like those Scions and Subaru coupes 🤣
Software is constantly evolving OTA updates will solve most of these issues. But still far behind TESLA.
If it wasn’t a 6 figure car I would say you were being too picky. But it does cost what it cost. With an elevated price tag comes elevated expectations.
I guess Dave's video's are now going to nick pick Tesla and the infrastructure. He may find out the grass may not always be greener.