My 272XP was running a little rough, I looked at the filter after watching this video and even though it looked fine, I replaced it. The old Husky runs like a champ once again, thanks Chainsaw Guy.
OEM quality fuel lines and filters are only way to go and they dont make you to go banktruptcy. No reason to put aftermarket lines or filters into saw.
I had a problem with my 026 Pro, today. It would not crank or even pop. I checked for spark and it lit up all the way across my 6mm spark tester. It also gave good spark on the spark plug, a Bosch WSR6F. When I pulled the plug it was dry, even though I had pulled it over in full choke probably 50 total times. I poured a little two cycle under the spark plug and she cranked right up. The fuel filter, a Chinese clone was only a few months old. The 026 had sat without being run for almost two months. I think the fuel filter had gotten blocked with oil and would not allow any gas to reach the carb. I am going to replace the fuel line, fuel filter and air filter with OEM parts. I think that will alleviate the problem.
@@WestCoastMuscleSaws it’s all I could figure from the symptoms. Even when I got it running it took several minutes to stabilize, like it was sucking gas through a blocked straw. I am going to replace the gas filter this morning and see what happens. It was running perfectly yesterday when I shut it down. It could have just been a defective gas filter and syrupy gas. It had set for two months, loaded with gas.
@@WestCoastMuscleSaws I forgot to say that I keep two saws ready to go by the back door. One was the 026 Pro and the other is my H-455, both loaded with the same gas (50:1 Red Armor). The 455 cranked up fine and it had sat longer than the 026. I have noticed that Red Armor tends to get a little syruply as it sits in a gas container for a long period of time. I use nothing but PNE 90 octane gas.
@@WestCoastMuscleSaws got it fixed. It was not the gas or two cycle oil. It was the air filter used on the 026/260. The flapper was not closing tightly enough. I replaced the clone air filter with a Stihl MS260 air filter and now it works perfectly. I also put a Stihl gas filter for the ms 260 on it at the same time.I had replaced the gas line last fall, so it was good.
Good Job John, I’ve seen that issue before, that choke flap has to close perfectly or it’ll never start, Take Care, WestCoastMuscleSaws TheChainSawGuy Rich
I know this is an old video, but thanks for making it. You answered some of my questions about aftermarket filters. I own several chainsaws, one Olympyk from Italy, and two Echo's. If I just wanted to buy a pack of fuel filters across the board that would work on all, what would you recommend? I'd imagine the ones for the Stihl? Do they all have different back-pressures rated for the running of the engines, though, is what I'm wondering. Wouldn't a Stihl one present a different resistance to an Echo carburetor? Anyway, if you see this and want to answer, I'd be grateful. All the best! Keep up the good work!
Hi Craig, this is one of those questions if asked to 5 different guys, you’ll get 6 conflicting answers. I prefer to use OEM STIHL filters on STIHL products and Husqvarna OEM filters on Husqvarna products. OEM STIHL and Husqvarna filters are factory tested in running products modules. after seeing many issues with aftermarket filters and parts I would only use Original OEM filters and OEM parts on equipment I work on, My exception to this is when all efforts to find OEM parts on obsolete equipment is exhausted. I will then confer with my customer and get permission to use aftermarket parts. WestCoastMuscleSaws TheChainSawGuy Rich
@@WestCoastMuscleSaws Thanks for the reply. I don't see that much difference in OEM vs aftermarket, but I probably don't use them everyday enough to notice. I would imagine you would, seeing them come in all the time. Good point about them being tested with their own filters built to their specs. I recently bought a bunch of OEM air filters for my lawnmowers and OEM pre-filters, as well. Hard to know if what you're getting otherwise is really any good. Cheap parts look similar, but may have very different standards. Funny thing is, when it comes to carbs, one from China is very cheap, but many OEM ones says "Made in China" as well. :) I've tried a couple aftermarkets. They seem to work fine. One is on its second year now. But I saved the original carbs so that if I have a chance, maybe I can get a rebuild kit and rebuild them in the meantime. :) The originals still seem better built. I've probably gotten 10+ pieces of equipment in the dump and refurbished them and still using them. Air filters I'm not too sure of. Aftermarket seem like they work fine there too. At least for a time. I'll have to look up that vacuum tool you showed, as well. I'd like to be able to check the suction on OEM vs aftermarket fuel filters for the Echo sometime. I'll see if you listed its model number in the description. Thanks again and all the best!
More on OEM fuel filters on STIHL and Husqvarna… With M-Tronics and fuel injection on the two cycle chainsaws the OEM is best. In the High Desert here in Oregon there were issues with early solenoid failures. Both German and Swede techs made the trip here to figure out why the solenoids were prematurely failing. they collected Sample carbs, solenoids and sent to factory for inspection. it was microscopic clay in the dust getting into the fuel tank when fueling. The microscopic clay particles made it thru the fuel filter, inlet screen and took out the solenoid on carb. Had to use Microscope to see it. Both STIHL and Husqvarna did a quick redesign on filters and issues went away. New color code on both STIHL and Husqvarna filters designate upgrade. Didn’t see any after market filter designers come out. Just Saying……
@@WestCoastMuscleSaws Excellent information. I like it when companies stand behind their products like this. I like figuring out what goes wrong, as well. Pretty cool to have some techs come out and and see what is happening to cause the failures in-situ. More impressive yet, when they take that knowledge back to the lab and figure out a way to make their filters work better. Its too bad they didn't do a youtube video on the results and how they re-engineered the filters. That would be interesting. I'm miles away from owning anything new like these saws. I fix things up I find in the dump pretty often. And they're very low tech. Its really nice to make things work again. Where I live, people just throw out an old saw or piece of equipment if it stops working. They're probably all concerned about the environment too, but they throw em out anyway. I come from an Outport in Northern Canada where people actually had to take care of things & learn to fix things. The amount of stuff thrown out here in the USA is staggering. I think I have six lawnmowers, three or four chainsaws, a couple weed-whackers, two leaf blowers, two table saws, three sliding compound mitre saws... the list goes on - mostly what people were throwing away for the sake of failure of a fairly cheap part. Well, its probably wishful thinking to find a brand of fuel filter that would fit all, as much as wishing there were a universal battery for every brand of cordless drill. :) hahaha What was that vacuum device you were using to test the fuel filters, btw?
thanks for all the tips! one question, my primer build doesn't seem to be pulling gas in. and now I can't get my Echo cs-400 to start. I used some of my friends has mix and after that it seems to have gave me that problem. he says the mix was do e right. however now it won't start. does this sound like a fuel filter problem or something else? thank you.
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My 272XP was running a little rough, I looked at the filter after watching this video and even though it looked fine, I replaced it. The old Husky runs like a champ once again, thanks Chainsaw Guy.
keep it silly simple
What filter would be your top pick to replace a the echo filter
OEM quality fuel lines and filters are only way to go and they dont make you to go banktruptcy. No reason to put aftermarket lines or filters into saw.
how much is the gauge for testing I wood like to have one, thank you
need to know what tach you use ? their are so many out their , i need your pro advice on one thanks
I had a problem with my 026 Pro, today. It would not crank or even pop. I checked for spark and it lit up all the way across my 6mm spark tester. It also gave good spark on the spark plug, a Bosch WSR6F. When I pulled the plug it was dry, even though I had pulled it over in full choke probably 50 total times. I poured a little two cycle under the spark plug and she cranked right up. The fuel filter, a Chinese clone was only a few months old. The 026 had sat without being run for almost two months. I think the fuel filter had gotten blocked with oil and would not allow any gas to reach the carb. I am going to replace the fuel line, fuel filter and air filter with OEM parts. I think that will alleviate the problem.
I think your right John,
WestCoastMuscleSaws
TheChainSawGuy
Rich
@@WestCoastMuscleSaws it’s all I could figure from the symptoms. Even when I got it running it took several minutes to stabilize, like it was sucking gas through a blocked straw. I am going to replace the gas filter this morning and see what happens. It was running perfectly yesterday when I shut it down. It could have just been a defective gas filter and syrupy gas. It had set for two months, loaded with gas.
@@WestCoastMuscleSaws I forgot to say that I keep two saws ready to go by the back door. One was the 026 Pro and the other is my H-455, both loaded with the same gas (50:1 Red Armor). The 455 cranked up fine and it had sat longer than the 026. I have noticed that Red Armor tends to get a little syruply as it sits in a gas container for a long period of time. I use nothing but PNE 90 octane gas.
@@WestCoastMuscleSaws got it fixed. It was not the gas or two cycle oil. It was the air filter used on the 026/260. The flapper was not closing tightly enough. I replaced the clone air filter with a Stihl MS260 air filter and now it works perfectly. I also put a Stihl gas filter for the ms 260 on it at the same time.I had replaced the gas line last fall, so it was good.
Good Job John,
I’ve seen that issue before, that choke flap has to close perfectly or it’ll never start,
Take Care,
WestCoastMuscleSaws
TheChainSawGuy
Rich
I know this is an old video, but thanks for making it. You answered some of my questions about aftermarket filters. I own several chainsaws, one Olympyk from Italy, and two Echo's. If I just wanted to buy a pack of fuel filters across the board that would work on all, what would you recommend? I'd imagine the ones for the Stihl? Do they all have different back-pressures rated for the running of the engines, though, is what I'm wondering. Wouldn't a Stihl one present a different resistance to an Echo carburetor? Anyway, if you see this and want to answer, I'd be grateful. All the best! Keep up the good work!
Hi Craig,
this is one of those questions if asked to 5 different guys, you’ll get 6 conflicting answers.
I prefer to use OEM STIHL filters on STIHL products and Husqvarna OEM filters on Husqvarna products.
OEM STIHL and Husqvarna filters are factory tested in running products modules.
after seeing many issues with aftermarket filters and parts I would only use Original OEM filters and OEM parts on equipment I work on,
My exception to this is when all efforts to find OEM parts on obsolete equipment is exhausted. I will then confer with my customer and get permission to use aftermarket parts.
WestCoastMuscleSaws
TheChainSawGuy
Rich
@@WestCoastMuscleSaws Thanks for the reply. I don't see that much difference in OEM vs aftermarket, but I probably don't use them everyday enough to notice. I would imagine you would, seeing them come in all the time. Good point about them being tested with their own filters built to their specs.
I recently bought a bunch of OEM air filters for my lawnmowers and OEM pre-filters, as well. Hard to know if what you're getting otherwise is really any good. Cheap parts look similar, but may have very different standards. Funny thing is, when it comes to carbs, one from China is very cheap, but many OEM ones says "Made in China" as well. :) I've tried a couple aftermarkets. They seem to work fine. One is on its second year now. But I saved the original carbs so that if I have a chance, maybe I can get a rebuild kit and rebuild them in the meantime. :) The originals still seem better built. I've probably gotten 10+ pieces of equipment in the dump and refurbished them and still using them.
Air filters I'm not too sure of. Aftermarket seem like they work fine there too. At least for a time.
I'll have to look up that vacuum tool you showed, as well. I'd like to be able to check the suction on OEM vs aftermarket fuel filters for the Echo sometime. I'll see if you listed its model number in the description. Thanks again and all the best!
More on OEM fuel filters on STIHL and Husqvarna…
With M-Tronics and fuel injection on the two cycle chainsaws the OEM is best. In the High Desert here in Oregon there were issues with early solenoid failures. Both German and Swede techs made the trip here to figure out why the solenoids were prematurely failing.
they collected Sample carbs, solenoids and sent to factory for inspection.
it was microscopic clay in the dust getting into the fuel tank when fueling. The microscopic clay particles made it thru the fuel filter, inlet screen and took out the solenoid on carb. Had to use Microscope to see it. Both STIHL and Husqvarna did a quick redesign on filters and issues went away. New color code on both STIHL and Husqvarna filters designate upgrade.
Didn’t see any after market filter designers come out.
Just Saying……
@@WestCoastMuscleSaws Excellent information. I like it when companies stand behind their products like this. I like figuring out what goes wrong, as well. Pretty cool to have some techs come out and and see what is happening to cause the failures in-situ. More impressive yet, when they take that knowledge back to the lab and figure out a way to make their filters work better. Its too bad they didn't do a youtube video on the results and how they re-engineered the filters. That would be interesting.
I'm miles away from owning anything new like these saws. I fix things up I find in the dump pretty often. And they're very low tech. Its really nice to make things work again. Where I live, people just throw out an old saw or piece of equipment if it stops working. They're probably all concerned about the environment too, but they throw em out anyway. I come from an Outport in Northern Canada where people actually had to take care of things & learn to fix things. The amount of stuff thrown out here in the USA is staggering. I think I have six lawnmowers, three or four chainsaws, a couple weed-whackers, two leaf blowers, two table saws, three sliding compound mitre saws... the list goes on - mostly what people were throwing away for the sake of failure of a fairly cheap part. Well, its probably wishful thinking to find a brand of fuel filter that would fit all, as much as wishing there were a universal battery for every brand of cordless drill. :) hahaha What was that vacuum device you were using to test the fuel filters, btw?
thanks for all the tips! one question, my primer build doesn't seem to be pulling gas in. and now I can't get my Echo cs-400 to start. I used some of my friends has mix and after that it seems to have gave me that problem. he says the mix was do e right. however now it won't start. does this sound like a fuel filter problem or something else? thank you.
What is the best saw Husky or stihl
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