Asics Magic Speed 3 - First impressions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I give my first impression thoughts on the new Asics Magic Speed 3.
0:00 Intro
0:21 First impressions
0:38 Let’s talk about the Metaspeed series first
4:08 The price
4:57 Specs
5:55 Upper & fit
7:32 Midsole & ride
10:45 The outsole
11:53 How have I used the shoe
12:53 Outro
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I’ve watched a lot of shoe reviews over the years, but none of them raise to the level of your videos. You put so much thinking into it and you convey with such clarity the key messages. You’re doing a great job, you really do. Thank you!
I appreciate the kind words and support. Thank you. 🙏🏻
Brilliant video. Very well presented. Excellent conclusions.
Thank you. Thank you. 🙏🏻
Great first impressions video, looking for your full review to decide a purchase :)
Thank you. Thank you! 🙏🏻
Hi Chris, i just bought this shoes and used it for 10km. I really love it. Its snappy, snug and light. And the upper of course strechy dont hurt my thumb at all. I just tried asics shoes just now and really won't regret it.
I'm glad you enjoy them. This really is a great shoe!
Great review, I have the Metaspeed Edge plus. Just had a couple of runs in it. Definitely not a Vaporfly. I do get a bit of slapping of the foot but MUCH less than the Novablast 3 which I hated.. They are more stable which helps my Achilles Tendon.. Will definitely get the MagicSpeed 3.. I got the Edge plus now for €180.. Did order the Adidas Pro 3 but the mail is so slow... Takumi sen 9 to narrow for me... I am 42.5 in the Superblast and Novablast 3 but 43.5 in the Metaspeed Edge plus and they have amazing fit.
I remember the Metaspeed Edge being flappy as well. Also it definitely was not a Vaporfly, or even close.
I can say the MS3 is not soapy at all. It is very well mannered.
The fit on the MS3, of you go up a half size, is not like the TS9… TTS… it’s is as narrow but shorter. I like a race fit so it didn’t bother me.
I do find the MS3 fits my foot better than the TS9… and the TS9 fit is solid for me.
Wow! Interesting how much better this works for you than the Novablast. It seems like that Blast+ just does better when it's paired with a plate or another foam (like the Superblast or Glideride). I am so intrigued by all the plated trainers. Endorphin Speed is my favorite, and I know I want to try the Deviate...but then these reviews come out, and I want to buy all the shoes. 😂
Ya, FFBlast+ is a totally different thing in this shoe. It really come alive. I like it so much I’m giving the NB3 another shot. Update video in the works. I have some miles to log first.
There are so many good options out there right now, especially for the tempo category… it’s really crazy.
Magic speed 3 to me is the best looking shoe out right now looks like a sports car on the feet
Feels like one too. Something really to be said for simplicity here. Great shoe!
Love mine too. Couldn’t bring myself to wearing those goofy looking nova and super blast shoes even if people rave about them.
Would love to see a review of the new Hyper Speed flat!
Trust me… I would too. As soon as I can get the Hyper Speed 3… I’ll be covering it. Hyper Speeds are actually rather hard to find here.
These new Magic Speeds definately picked my interest as I am looking for some speed/tempo work out and maybe even race shoe for a half. Need to try these!
And that colour way 👌 I’ve still never seen that! Where did you get those? Also really good review! You got new subscriber for sure.
It’s one of the launch colorways here in Asia. The white/pink, black and a blue ones.
Thank you for the sub. Glad my content earned it! 🙏🏻
@@SagasuRunning Nice 👌 Thanks for the quick reply!
I liked the first MS and i like them stiff ish , but i always wanted it a tad more forgiving , this looks like a winner
This shoe is not super forgiving… but it is very great so far!
@@SagasuRunning the super soft mids make me feel more sink than bounce which makes me feel more labored when running . I need a bit (just a bit) of softness and generally some stiffness which helps me roll forward faster (if that makes sense) and im also on the heavier side so i think thats why . Cant wait for a long term review or comparisons with existing shoes with the same-ish specs .
Definitely a 50 & 100 mile update coming for this shoe. Not sure about a comparison as I don’t run in many tempo trainers that this competes against. But I will be comparing it to the Takumi Sen 9 and Adios 8 directly….
Looking forward to getting my pair. Need a comfortable but snappy and light tempo shoe to replace the Saucony Endorphin Speed 2 as my stash is running low and the 3 is just not as good and too bulky. Hope this does the trick.
It’s a fun shoe and very fast. It should hit the marks Rivne what you want. 👍🏻
I use Reebok energy x
@@Maximilian745 I’ve never run in a Reebok… have owned a pair since I was in Jr High… a long time ago. 😂
I’m using the Magic speed 2 almost daily and I find it’s great for almost everything except high end speed. This version looks even better but there’s some other new shoes that have also grabbed my attention!
This shoes is definitely a speed trainer. If can do easy running in between reps… but it’s not a shoe I’d pick for dedicated easy running. I’ve been really enjoying this shoe since I recorded this video. I’ll have an update soon.
@@SagasuRunning Thanks for your review! I generally don’t do “easy runs”… I prefer cycling for zone 2 training and only run at zone 3 or higher. However I’m considering buying this shoe for my first marathon in a couple of months, so I’m checking out what people have said about it!
For the MS2 I really like it for the speed range 3:45 - 5:00 /km
I think that’s the sweet spot for me!
@@stuarthys9879 that’s a huge range. I never ran in the MS2… but I know the MS3 is much stiffer with the full carbon plate. Asics using some very stiff plate sun their shoes. So I’d try this on if you can.
@@stuarthys9879 I see. Maybe look at the Metaspeed Edge+… FFTurbo is going to be a much better choice for a dedicated racer. FFBlast+ is good but breaks down when really pushed.
Super good video again. I just have a question. How fast do you run a marathon? (strava profile🤔) I do a lot of shoe testing. One thing I have learned. There is a lot of difference in how shoes feel depending on the pace you run in them.
I’m a 1:30 half and a 3:20 full. Though my goals for NYC this fall are faster. Though my last marathon was 3:50, though I ran it and didn’t race it (was battling bad plantar fasciitis).
Totally agree on pace being a HUGE factor. Especially for race shoes. DOR has a bunch of great content on it as well.
Thanks for the kind words on the video! 🙏🏻
@@SagasuRunning Thanks for the answer👍. I myself am a huge shoe/data geek. Love watching videos of people who are very competent in the field. and your videos have really caught my attention. I hope you get a lot of followers, you really deserve it🙂 Which shoe is your favorite shoe for the Marathon. My personal favorite is Adidas Prime X. Definitely the best shoe according to my tests for me.
@@JS-Treadmill-Running I’ve always been a Vaporfly runner and I don’t see that changing with the excellent VF3.
I am also a data guy and ill start adding in some of that over time.
Again, thanks for the support! 🙏🏻
@@SagasuRunning I haven't got the Vaporfly 3. So don't know how they feel to run in. But I think the first version was good. Version 2 feels (ZoomX) markedly different than in version 1 or in a pair of Alphaflys. I even bought a few more to make sure it wasn't a mistake. but the result was the same. but have heard that 3 should be softer. So must try them.
I better stop now😳
I look forward to your next video👍🙂.
@@JS-Treadmill-Running I’d say the VF3 has softer foam but runs a little firmer due to the design and sculpting of the outsole. I have a bunch of videos going into detail on it all.
Plenty more content coming. It’s going to be a busy few months with all the shoe releases I want to cover plus the backlog of content I want to get though!
At that price point would rather grab the puma deviate nitro 2 or the adizero line up which uses a mixture of critical racing foam in its trainer. Didn’t quite like the ride of the novablast 3.
I didn’t love the NB3 initially either… but it has grown on me a lot lately (update video soon). I’m not a Puna fan and while I do think the MS3 is better than the TS9 for most tempo work… I’m really looking forward to the Adios 8.
@@SagasuRunning interesting input. Tried to like the novablast 3, had a recent run on it but had trouble to pick up the pace, felt like a hovercraft.
Odd, I had the exact same feelings in my first 50miles… which lead to my 59 mile video… then I put them in a box then they sat for a few months… put them on last week and while they still feel like a lot of shoe… a few of the issues I had with them are magically gone. Still not my go to shoe for daily training… but only I may reach for on longer runs.
Working on an update video and logging some miles into them again.
Nitro 2 is too firm for me and has no rocker. I don't think this would feel the same.
First of all, I just want to start by saying sorry for writing to you again😳. It's perfectly fine if you don't have the time and desire to answer👍🙂 As I wrote to you, I am also a shoe/data geek. I have made a small TH-cam channel. But not at all on the same level as yours. The primary purpose of my channel is to do data-based testing. The way I do it now is as follows. most of my tests take place on a Techno Gym treadmill. Which is made to simulate running outside so it doesn't have very much shock absorption. Plus the conditions are always the same. I use heart rate data at different speeds. Just completed a test today between. New Balance More V4, Asics Nimbus 25 and New Balance SuperComp Trainer. 2 km with 10.5 - 12.5 - 14 - 16 km/h and 1.5 km with 18.5 km/h. run example 2 km at 10.5 km/h change shoes plus a break of about 5 minutes and run again 10.5 Km/h in another pair. Afterwards I see the difference in the pulse. Which shoe is most effective. I use two heart rate monitors so that the data is as correct as possible. I have also used Power (watts) But the data was too imprecise. Now comes my question to you. Do you think there are any things I can do to make the test even more accurate. I know if I had a lab available the test would be more accurate. But unfortunately I don't have that. Sorry for my long message. But just thought you're the best to ask🤔
It sounds like you have a very controlled setup and system. I have a long background in indoor training from cycling. I know how efficient it can be.
I don’t have any setup advice. As I said, it sounds well planned and reasoned out. Google can help find advice of setups like this within cycling and lab testing. Then you can fine tune from what you learn there.
Thanks for the kind words on my channel. I’m very small and growing… but have lots of room to grow. This running space on TH-cam is interesting and there is lots of room for new voices in it. Keep it up!
@@SagasuRunning Thank you very much for your answer👍🙂
I’m after a tempo trainer so really interested here. On sizing, did you go the same size as the Superblast? How does the fit compare? Cheers!
It’s likely the best tempo trainer ever made.
Sizing depends on what you want. It fits like the original Metaspeeds… meaning of you want a very tight race fit for TTS… if you want a looser fit and more toe room (length) size up a half size from the SB.
I have the same size in both the MS3 and SB… but the MS3 is borderline too small (though it’s a race fit which I wanted).
Thank you for this. I’ve read elsewhere half size up from the Superblast so I’ll go with that. Cheers!
did someone knows NovaBlast or MagicSpeed will heat the foot after long run about 6-7miles? idea please
Sounds like the fit is not good for you. Too tight, too small or maybe even too big. All can cause hot spots.
@@SagasuRunning thank you! i got the NovaBlast and feel my foot so hot after 4-5kms run🥲
What is the slowest pace do you fell the shoe is good to run on?
It handles easy running, ok… but for me once it gets over about 4:30/I’m (7:15/mi) it really wakes up. It is very versatile and can handle alot of paces.
I plan on buying this shoe for running and a walking shoe when commuting. How is it as an everyday walk around town shoe?
This is not a very good walking shoe. It’s a carbon plated running shoe and VERY stiff with and extreme amount of toe spring. Not very pleasant to walk in at all (but great for running). I would not recommend this shoe for any causal use.
If you want a better ASICS walking shoe that is similar to this… look at the Novablast 3. It’s a very good walking shoe or casual use shoe AND running shoe.
@@SagasuRunning Thanks!
UK8 size is out of stock a long time in India, how & where to buy it.
I have no idea about India… though it does seem Asics has had some odd stock issues with certain models being impossible to find… for sometime.
Best bet would be to check resellers and 3rd parties. Those type of shops must have them in stock.
Can we use this shoes for a long running such as 21 km or 42 km run ? pls help me to guide this Kashyap Joshi from INDIA
Yes! The MS3 is a very capable shoe that is a great option for those who don’t want to spend on a top end supershoe or who want something a little bit more forgiving. So you can totally do the 21k or 42k distance in racing or training.
Though it wouldn’t be my first choice. Something like a Novablast 3 would be a better training option and the Superblast would be a better single training AND racing option for any distance.
Curious if the new Boston can compete with this. Seems to be a very analogous shoe at the exact same price.
I agree. I’ve seen decent reviews of the B12… I LOVED the Boston 9, was possibly one of my favorite shoes ever… I’ve still not forgiven Adidas for what they did to it though.
I’m hoping the Adios 8 will have B9 vibes. 🤞🏻
Boston 12 looks more like a tempo trainer and heavier than the magic speed 3 imo. Adios 8 looks amazing, but a more traditional style. From the current shoes, magic speed 3 would be my preference for half or full marathon, and adios 8 for 5/10 k. I’m not a fan of the super high stack shoes
Just received the MS3. Being a Novablast 3 / Alphafly 2 user, the MS3 were uncomfortable and definitely not cushioned, which also gave me pain in my calves. Second session, speed workout intervals, the shoe felt better, and I think the foam is breaking in as well. So already the shoe feels more comfortable than it did initially. Regarding the fit, I purchased my usual size without going up half a size, 46 Euro size. There is about 1cm space between my toe and the edge of the forefoot toe box. Though the shoe is on the narrow side, and my heel and outer foot definitely stretches the upper material, and maybe even hangs out a bit. I hear a lot that low stack racer shoes should be a tighter fit, could someone guide me with some comparisons between regular fitting shoes/trainers to racers? Is my description of my MS3 fit correct and fine for a racer (5k - 10k) or should I still go up half a size? My MS3 doesn't feel tight, but it is definitely snug, especially on the sides.
As a side note, these shoes are still very very new to me. But so far, I'm not noticing any assistance from the carbon plate or the race nature of the shoe. With the Alphafly 2, even for a 5k distance, I noticed far more spring and propulsion. I definitely run very fast in the MS3, but i run very fast in my novablast 3 as well. I'm not noticing any significant speed benefits YET.
It sounds as if the fit is what’s expect a “race fit” to feel like. The other shoes you have have fairly generous uppers (compared to the MS3), especially the NB3.
I’d spend more time in them. The carbon plate in the MS3 is very apparent to my feet and I always directly feel it. I don’t run in Alphafly 2s anymore, I’m coming for the Vaporfly.
@@SagasuRunning small update: I've ran a few more sessions in the MS3 and now I can say how much I love them. It took around 15km to break in the foam, and now they are well cushioned with a good amount of propulsion. I didn't feel this at the beginning, but after breaking them in, the magic is there.
@@samlucas1621 FFBlast+ needs a bit of time to really soften up and get the “squish” people like about it. The stiff carbon plate really comes alive with the squishy foam.
I’m glad you are enjoying them.
It's a Metaspeed upper and a rather low-stack FF Blast + mid with a carbon plate. The Superblast is a better all around shoe. This is a better speed day shoe. But the Superblast can do speed days better than the Magicspeed can do long runs, recovery/easy runs, and everything else. This shoe has it's place in a rotation, but can't be a stand-alone shoe, which kind of narrows down the target consumer. It's not for everyday walk-around-town use. It's not for every-day runners. I have it, it's a great shoe for Strides and Intervals, but I don't dare take it out for anything else. I race with the Metaspeed Sky+ and use the Nimbus 25 for easy days, Superblast for long runs.
I believe I said the same in the video, in the follow up full review of this shoe I have. That is why I called this a traditional tempo trainer… it’s a speed or workout shoe, and a very good one, not much else. Definitely not a super trainer and a totally different shoe from the Superblast. I do love the Superblast but I prefer the Magic Speed 3 still…
I also prefer the fit of the Magic Speed over the Metaspeed. The last is different.
I’ll have some metaspeed content coming to the channel in Sept… I’ll go more into it then.
Yeah, I was basically agreeing with what you said in the video and giving anyone cruising the comments a recap. Looking fwd to the Metaspeed review and enjoyed your Superblast review as well.@@SagasuRunning
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Please Help Me
Im currently contemplating whether to get the new Asics Magic Speed 3 or the Vaporfly 2 for my racing shoes,
my main concerns are, will there be much ride difference (bounce, energy return, etc,) and durability issues in Vaporfly 2 I would love a racing shoes that I can use occasionally during workouts without worrying it will degrade easily.
I have never used any vaporflys, seeing many runners high praise of it make me very tempted tho (are they really that good, has significantly more energy return?)
For now, Im currently leaning more towards the magic speed 3 because many reviews claim that the Vaporfly 2 break down in faster rate than normal shoes.
if you have bad or good durability experience with your Vaporfly 2 please share it down below. And if both at the same price is it without a doubt the Vaporfly is the better deal regarding all my concerns?
All opinions and experiences will be greatly appreciated 🙏
The VF2 is a much better race shoe than the MS3. No contest actually. Even on price… you can find VF2s, currently on sale, for a similar price to the MS3.
As for durability… it depends on what you find acceptable. I’ve put 300-400kms on a pair of VF2s (usually about 100kms of racing and 200kms + for training). Normally I’d retire VF2s around 250km though, it’s honestly rare for me to run any shore further than that.
Now I’d you are a heel striker your durability may differ as well.
I can’t speak to the long term durability of the MS3, it’s just too new. FFBlast+ is more durable than ZoomX and the outsole on the MS3 offers more protection… but again the VF2 is a much faster and better shoe all around, especially for racing and tempo training.
@@SagasuRunning how about takumi sen 9, compared to this magic speed 3 performance wise, ride feel (softer/firmer, etc) thanks for your insight, i found your videos to be very helpful 🙏
My initial thoughts on the MS3 is that it is better than the TS9 for training and racing half/full marathons (as I said in my video). The TS9 is a better short interval and speed workout shoe.
Glad my content is useful for you!👍🏻
@@SagasuRunning just made it all the way through the end of video, as you said this shoe is the best uptempo trainer youve had for a while, would be interesting to see you make one comparison with takumi sen, endorphin speed, streakfly, etc
@@SagasuRunning love your video as always cheers mate 😁
IMO this shoe feel A LOT like the Endorphin Speed 1, just with stiffer plate. Weight, foam energy return, snug fit, & a bit unstable - almost exactly like the Speed 1.
That is the last Saucony I ran in… though, at the time, I found it too stiff. But you are right! I can see the similarities for sure!
0:59 Did I hear right? You donated 200$+ pair of Asics? I'm sorry but that's ridiculous to me. I would never do that. I can only afford that level of nice shoes if I buy them used. Something really has to be wrong with the shoe for me to get rid of it. And in these cases I sell them, no way in hell to donate them! I can't just throw away that kind of money.
In my country lightly used supershoes goes for half the original price (at least), in western country you can find 250$ shoes for 50$ on 2nd hand market, not here.
And Sky and Egde were 275$ here in the stores. More expensive than in the west.
It's just funny to me how you guys treat these shoes like a consumable, for us this is a serious investment. And I'm still insane that with my modest income and being slow ass runner I still buy these kind of shoes, but it's fun hobbie to me and I'm little bit crazy - have to admit. :)
Yes, I often donate shoes I don’t like after 50-100 miles. I don’t have room to keep things and I often travel so that is the best bet.
This is a large part of why I don’t talk about price on this channel. What I think is inexpensive or expensive is often not the case for others. I come from cycling and compared to cycling running (even too end super shoes) are cheap. So it’s all relative I guess.
@@SagasuRunning No problem. I wrote the comment before I finished the whole video. I saw after that you mentioned that you have a reason you don't talk about the price aspect.
Even if you talk about money I don't think you'll get negative comments. Ppl who watch (super)shoe reviews aren't bothered by prices, UNLESS something is exceptionally expensive and is crap. I don't post comments about prices because I know I am a tiny monority and I don't represent most people, but donating barely used supershoe was just that of a shock to me. :)
@@kylestephens9593 my thinking is if I’m not going to enjoy it… someone else should be able too. It’s much better than throwing them out. If I still lived in the US I might try to sell them… but living in Asia makes they hard for me.
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