How did NASA get those great film shots of Apollo and the Shuttle?
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- Ever wondered how NASA got those amazing film shots of Apollo and the shuttle launching and the boosters falling away from rockets as they fly into space, then here we find out what cameras and techniques they used.
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No dramatization, no useless suspense, no clickbaits. Amazing job. Your video shows all the research and hardwork you put in there for numb nuts like me. Now i believe in the sanity of the world, that it got over a million views.
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@@Pune122 thanks buddy
I remember when The History Channel would have programs like this. I miss those days.
@@cj20080 I can't argue with that my friend hahaha 👍🏽
Now we have Kardashians and love island. 😔😔
@@ArkadyRenko1 dont forget ancient aliens
yeah, but who watches tv anymore?
Back when we actually learned things on history channel. Now all we learn is aliens are trying to rape us all and rick harrison can only do 20$
My father's company, D.B. Milliken, built a lot of those 400 fps cameras used throughout the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, and beyond programs. In the early '70s the company was sold to Teledyne. Many of the Milliken cameras had specially shape housings to cram in the tight spaces of the command capsules. You can see the elongated oval logo sticker in several of the shots in this video. It was always a fun evening when my dad would bring home footage of testing procedures! I certainly remember the films of Col. John Stapp as he was strapped into the rocket sled to study high-G effects on humans.
Robert, I am a long time owner of many Milliken 16mm DBM series cameras. (I use for sports photography). Where did the name "DB Milliken" come from? BTW, Alan Gordon Enterprises has a special built DBM with a "twist" in the housing that I believe is identical to the one seen in many photos of John Glenn inside Friendship 7.
@@jimpalmer2704 Donald Booth Milliken was the designer of that stop-frame drive and founded the company. I don't know when the company was started. And yes, there were several models with housings specifically designed to fit in the very confined spaces inside the space capsules.
I have some "Space Bucks" which were placed inside the camera housings used to film that ubiquitous footage of stage separation everyone's seen so many times. The cameras were jettisoned and recovered downrange from the Atlantic Ocean. The bills are signed by members of the various crews involved either in launch or recovery.
D B Milliken was located where please? The USA?
@@michaelrmurphy2734
D. B. Milliken Co.
131 S. 5th Ave.
Arcadia, California, USA.
The 210 freeway now goes over what used to be that address.
@@truesdel Used to? Hmm... Next stop Street View.
Love the videos. My uncle was chief photographic engineer at Kennedy and worked there from the late 50’s through the 90’s and was responsible for positioning and setup of the launchpad cameras for all the launches. He even got to meet von Braun on several occasions to discuss camera positions. He told some great stories about cameras being rattled to pieces inside their protective cases. Few people understood how difficult it was for them to get many of those shots, especially the big Saturns later on in the program.
destroying cameras always makes for great footage when they survive
@@Leafyfpv Whaa...? That's kind of funny. ;-)
@@thethirdman225 some of the cameras up close were probably sacrificed even in protected casings im thinking at least a few were lost... though this video focuses more on the tracking camera system which is itself a pretty wild make.
Thanks unky!
Leafy fpv The cameras themselves were not directly exposed to the rocket exhaust. It was usually done by a series of mirrors. Back in the film days, the film itself would not have survived if the cameras didn’t.
This is one of the most interesting and informative videos that I’ve watched on TH-cam. The level of detail presented and the fluent, articulate delivery is superior to some of the Nat Geo or Discovery shows.
Yup. What he said ^
Check the TH-cam chsnnel RealEngineering he gets really complicated.
That's what passion does.
I had no idea that launches were so closely and extensively filmed. This was an extremely interesting and informative video. Thank you for bringing it to TH-cam.
Check out NASA's "best of the best" video, where a couple engineers go into extensive detail on the footage, explaining every sequence in a Shuttle launch. th-cam.com/video/vFwqZ4qAUkE/w-d-xo.html
I RESPECT YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR COMMITMENT...
my favorite by faaaarrr is the falcon heavy boosters landing in unison. i know it didnt take super specialized gear to film but what an amazing launch to be alive for.
I was just about to say the same.
James Sullivan haha damn you are so woke. poor guy
Dude what happened to your amazing aviation videos.
Thanks dudes! Life sort of got busy for me. I started a contact maintenance company which is going great and I'm now flying full time for compass airlines as a first officer on the e175.
I don't get it, why was this particular launch "amazing to be alive for"? Did they send someone to alpha centauri? Or just the photog?
I took a job last year operating a Contraves mount on the launch complex at Vandenberg Air Force Base. We still perform launch tracking with similar procedures and increasingly more sophisticated camera systems. It’s wonderful to see the capabilities of our fellow mobile optics technicians receiving some accolades. Thank you.
I'm pretty sure that guy filming the v2 had balls too big to run with.
He had a sniper aimed at the back of his head , and knew it !
@@micknolan3753 This was Germany, not communist russia.
@@micknolan3753 Not quite. It would have been done out of absolute passion for his craft. Those guys were smart and motivated.
@____ Never said they were good. Ethically disgusting, but smart and motivated. You do know the nazis had their shit so together they managed to go from a hyperinflated enconomy (wiemar) in 1923, the nazis take power in 35, and everyone goes from being poor and starving to having a mini industrial revolution which let them conquer europe by 1942. They were flying rockets into us in the UK by 1944! Oh yeah and the usa nicked all their scientists in 45 so they could go to space and make nukes.
As i said, not good, very unethical but they were very competent as a political class. If you want to be triggered go read about stalin and mao, the communists. Way higher civilian kill counts.
@Gavin Quick They got shit done. I would love to live in a society that was as unified, althought for a much different cause.
You distill so many videos into an understandable compilation. Fantastic research. Thank you
Agreed! Thanks for the content.
Not saying this because I'm a sucker for aerospace.. but this is probably one of my favourite videos of this channel!! Stunning footage, thank you for creating this and thanks to all of the people involved in the content over the decades!
Amazing technology and ingenuity!
I'm sorry to hear they removed your video. Thanks for sharing it with us again 😊
They.... Can go to hell!
Another absolutely wonderful piece. Thank you.
Still watching again, this is so well done! 👍
AGREED
They never put cameras on the helmets of the space walkers I wonder why?
Yes they do. I have seen footage of many different spacewalks that were shot by the astronauts actually doing the spacewalk. You just won't ever see that kind of footage if the astronauts are working on something that is classified.
@@John.M.Gannon
Yes, yes they do.
@@John.M.Gannon TV cams on the helmets and on the MMU's of the 80's Gemini astros carried handheld cams on their spacewalks
My grandfather RIP was one of those people taking those photos. He worked out of Vandenberg Air Force Base. Of course they took photos of many other things that the air force was developing, most of which he couldn't talk about.
When I was a young boy my grandfather took me out on the base one day to see the Thunderbird's, a newly formed aerobatic squadron. They we're putting on a show for the purpose of getting some promotional shots. Selected personnel and their family members where invited to attend. While waiting for their arrival my grandfather put me in the operators seat of the mount and let me control it. You looked through a view finder shaped like a pair of goggles and controlled the motion of the mount with a control stick much like an airplane has with buttons that fire the various cameras instead of Gatling guns. I got to swing the mount around a little bit. It was pretty cool.
My gramps worked on all of the big projects of the space race. I have some pretty cool photos of his that have never been seen before. I avoid publishing them due to possible conflicts with classification but most of them are of things that have been declassified like what's shone in this video so it most likely wouldn't be a problem but who knows. I don't want to take the chance.
I subbed to this channel a long while ago and am still being rewarded by recommendations of (years old, but) awesome documentarys that outmatch many of their TV production counterparts.
6:01 6:29 The footage of the rocket stages separating with the earth in the background are among the most amazing images I have ever seen.
Very well done ! No computer animated voice just a man that speaks clear English with a nice accent thank you !
Technical videoes will never be the same after this!!! I got SO much more out of it without that droning animated pretend voice... For bless ya for that. Beautiful work!
Michael Peterson
5:29 I used to do business with NASA back during the early days of the Space Shuttle and often got within a few feet of those binocular optics used to optically track launch vehicles. They had massive objective lenses. I was an amateur astronomer and would drool when I got a good look at those optics.
*Its fun to watch a Perfectly Edited educational Video professionally delivered*
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maya q - “idiot” no need to be so tough on yourself LOL
maya q why idiot?
It is ALL intoxicating footage to me, but the rise of any of the rockets/vehicles off the landing pads, and the subsequent cameras that catch "the blast off" really are the most-magnificent pieces of footage that move me to tears still to this day. Having seen both Shuttle and ATLAS Rocket launches (John Glenn's Return to Space, and a night ATLAS launch) I feel terribly fortunate to not only having been able to see a pre-9/11 launch, but to watch as technology fosters more adaptation, inspiration and results. It is a grand time to be alive. Thank you for sharing so much knowledge. It is appreciated and know that it will be shared far and wide.
Watching F1's ignite and come up to full thrust is still completely amazing to me.
My favorite footage: the first stage separation on the Saturn 5. First of all it just looks so stunning and violent, it's hard to believe such a massive essentially hollow structure could withstand the forces at play.
I'm a 64 year old Norwegian amateur photographer. I had NO idea of the scale of all this. Fantastic video and presentation!
For many years and probably even now the technologies used in photographing things like this was all classified top secret. There where some high speed cameras that where used and not even mentioned who's capabilities are still not known to the public. We're talking large format film cameras shooting thousands of frames per second.
I love any angles looking down at Earth from the rocket. I think there's one here on YT called "Riding the Booster". Like taking off in a plane except you just keep going until the sky is black, so surreal looking!
the space shuttle booster right?
I'll have a look for that, thanks.
It's amazing to see how NASA recorded the footage of the launches. I remember going to Cape Kennedy to watch the Columbia blast off in middle school. I took the yearbook photos of the launch, with a lot of advice from the science teachers. I borrowed my brother's 35mm and used 1000 ASA film, which was a really big deal for an 8th grader. It's mind blowing how advanced the professional film was in comparison. Thank you for posting a wonderful video!
As a kid in the 60’s I had “Thunderbirds”- 50 years plus later “Falcon Heavy is go”- and it lands on its tail!!!! It’s about time.
It's about time,
It's about space,
About strange people in the strangest place.
It's about time,
It's about flight,
Travelin' faster than the speed of light.
@@andyman8630 I was going to say the same thing!
Elon Musk has enter the Chat
My favorite launch footage is actually landing footage of the space x boosters. It's chilling to watch a booster land. It's one of the most exciting things I have seen live in my lifetime.
Right! Boosters landing, and now the starship flipping itself upright and landing!?!?! I am closing in on my 50's and I am speechless watching that shit. Space x launch and landing brought to us by PIXAR!.. lmao
....just want to thank you for the work you're doing; no hype or bs...just solid, great in-depth information presented in straight forward fashion...quality work all around
A lot of great details I never knew about in my years of fascination with the NASA space programs thank you for this superb video!
Superbly researched and well-written, with great footage. Thanks for one of the most densely informative videos on YT.
My favourite footage is the slow-motion launch of Apollo 11 from various angles, simply because this was the most important technological event in human history. Half a century after the fact, I still find it deeply moving to watch, and I still find it incredible that, in the first few seconds after being released by the hold-down arms, such a gargantuan and heavy rocket could be kept in perfect vertical balance by computer-controlled reactive gimballing of the F1 engines.
Sheer technical mastery!
I'm with you on the Apollo Saturn V launch footage - high-speed camera E-8 footage of Apollo 11 is my absolute fave. The way the flame billows out of the launch trench; the shards of ice falling from the sides of the launch vehicle, the incredible exhaust of the F-1 engines. 500 frames per second of pure power. th-cam.com/video/DKtVpvzUF1Y/w-d-xo.html
Another favorite is camera E-19 of the Space Shuttle launches, where you see the cascades of sparks below the Shuttle main engines. The details of the flow of the exhaust in the SSME, the sheer power of the SRBs...camera E-8 on Shuttle launches watches the explosive bolts that hold the SRBs down and is pretty cool too. th-cam.com/video/wlz5u1OBe_c/w-d-xo.html
Bravo! Point well made!
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I was not one one the amateur videographers to film any of those beautiful launches, but I was inspired by those videos so much that I am now recording all of the launches out of Cape Canaveral FL. My last video was crappy as it was out of focus a bit for the liftoff stage. But I will be sure to do better for the rest of them. Those videos are the only ways many around the world will ever get to see a rocket launch. I truly believe it is an experience more people should have. I hope you all have a great day/night and as always, Keep Smiling
Can't remember any specifics, but my fav was a tiny frog that had somehow got onto the launch platform. It was blasted into the air when the SRBs ignited. Poor frog, but pretty memorable.
My favorite footage is of the early Apollo missions where the cameras are sitting at the launch pad filming at a high FPS...watching the fuel mixing and burning in slow motion as those giant F1 engines spew millions of pounds thrust is still awe inspiring :0)
Agreed! The ultra high speed cam footage that runs about 10 minutes is astounding. The only 'improvement' IMHO would be if the actual sound was recorded and added in. Of course it would have to be corrected for pitch. Can you imagine 10 minutes of thunderous subwoofers pounding in combination with that? Neighbors might get a little bit ticked... lol
@@bigbaddms you had me at "thunderous subwoofers" :)
I was quite impressed by how much of the Apollo program was shown live (I was 9 when we landed on the Moon) from space. The videography that most impressed me was when the lunar rover camera followed the live liftoff of the assent stage of the LEM. It was mind blowing to me we could watch our most distant exploration live on television. The live video was also testament to how dedicated they were to doing the space program right. The most recent live views that truly excited me was of the first flight of the Falcon Heavy. The two side busters landing next to each other was rocket science porn. It was also amazing seeing SN9 swing sideways and come down in the skydiver maneuver, something never done before with an orbital class upper stage, from the onboard cameras. The excitement continued with the relight and flip upright with the Raptor engines only failing in the remaining seconds of the landing attempt. I knew that final green that showed clearly on camera was not boron.
Me too!! I was that same age, and was always glued to the TV during the launches and missions! When the space X boosters would come down and land vertical was amazing! I would say, "this is Buck Rodgers!" It would always disappoint when the footage would skip and we would miss the landings!!
Favourite launches were the saturn-5 rockets. I don't know why, they just looked cool going up. A lot more graceful than the shuttle
the shuttle wasnt a rocket it was a jet plane, you can hear its engines when it comes in to LAND!
Mr Westie it used rocket engines?
SRB Stands for Solid Jet Boosters.Obvious enough? Brilliant....
@@rowdyyates4273 What?!? There are NO jet engines on the shuttle and NO thrusters are firing during landing approach!!
@@rowdyyates4273 Wrong. The shuttle glides in to land, completely unpowered.
My favourite is at 4:24 on the ground. Sunny sky, the staff in white shirts, the cars of the sixties and the Saturn V in the background. This was the spirit of that time...
One of my favs would be the video, sound, and telemetry from the SRB's and external fuel tank during shuttle launches and the re entry of the SRB's and fuel tank. The viewer is actually able to experience what it's like to reenter the atmosphere.
+1 That's also my favorite.
3:58 - 4:02 It clearly shows the *curvature of the Earth* . This is gold. Especially in the rise of flatearthers all around.
Antonio Nešić it's all camera distortion by the nazis #flattroll 😂😂
Caleb Gulder 😂😂😂😂
Fish eye lens .. Nice try. Its flat.
HEY, GET ME BACK UP. I JUST FELL OFF!
+Antonio Nesic: That camera was no more than 121,000ft up..roughly 23 miles, the same as a normal-lens-balloon cam of today. The only thing that would make that footage show curvature is a convex-lens, similar to todays fish-eye lens..easily done. Theres plenty of footage out there with a normal lens..25 miles up, edge-of-space, and once the balloon/cam have stabilised, it shows a flat disc/plane with horizon still eye-level....It is what it is....
What a spectacular collection of footage and very interesting narrative. Keep up the good work. Thanks!!
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My favourite is the one at 11:30 , because of the awesome effects you can see as the exhaust plume changes colour and makes this weird electrical-looking plasma. Second favourite is at 13:18 , as you can see the sheer force of the ignition followed by the nozzles vectoring inwards, and then the clamps disengage and the thing just lifts up like it's nothing! Of course I like a lot of other shots, the separation of the Apollo booster in space and the long shots SpaceX have been doing recently where you can watch from a rocket's POV the entire journey up into space and back down to Earth. I'm so glad they stick cameras on these things, as you said, you get to see things that normally no human would be able to safely observe with their own two eyes, and it's always the most awesome parts of a launch!
An excellent production, suitable for any University classroom. Thanks for sharing.
Quite the most interesting and informative youtube video I have ever seen. Incredibly well put together thank you. Subscribed.
Woooow that footage at 3:49 is so amazing! To think that that was the first time humans ever saw images of the earth from space.
The advancement of the camera systems to record this amazing footages is just as fascinating as the rockets themselves.
wow..never thought it’s complicated to capture the moment, until watching this video. thank you!
I will never forget seeing the space shuttle Challenger disaster, only my classmates and I saw it outdoors from the school playground. Being accustomed to launch delays, we always waited until it cleared the launchpad and then ran outside to watch. It was very cold that morning in Central Florida and something about the launch did not look right. We were all rather puzzled and went back inside to watch it on TV.
Later that morning, the school held an impromptu prayer service.
My favourite is the Saturn V footage from camera E8. It's just amazing!
Your sense of style is only surpassed by the quality of your videos! Great work!
Great work curious droid. Deep research and access to footage, keep giving us high quality documentary.
Just gives me a reason to watch it again. This is such a great educational channel Paul. I will be promoting this channel on our streams. Great work!
I’m so glad that a total coincidence let me find this channel.... the amount of work put into these really superb videos is overwhelming... I just love watching these videos and I hope to see more to come in the future.
Fantastic work, guys, I wish you all the best!
Cheers,
Steven
The Saturn 4 separation video fascinated me as a child.. still does
Very, VERY well done....no nonsense, no dramatisation, and to the point. If only the History Channel would take note!
The History Channel is history
What fascinating information! You have put a lot of time and effort into researching and putting this video together. As an armchair rocket scientist, I wish to express my gratitude for all your hard work.
Thank you
I truly love your videos. you and your team do a wonderful job. I'm assuming team because it's all done so well. The speaking, the script, the timing. The editing. No fluff, just the great info. Thank you so much and again GREAT channel. Long time watcher
They did it with a camera
WOW! I would never imagine that!
Big if true
Justin Y.
Bruhhh you're here also?
I thought you only watching meme videos.
this is true i was the camera
Pics or it didn't happen
The LA Times can stuff it. You did them no harm. It should have been more than enough to simply have you credit them as source of the material, in fact that would have promoted them. As it is, they stain their own name by being insufferable. Not to say they aren't insufferable as a general policy anyway.
gtq838
"nyt is better than both by a lot."
With all due respect (and I'm seriously not trying to explode this topic), that's not saying much.
Did I miss something?
Anything from NYC is good!
JamesG what happened?
Then what news source would you suggest? Fox news??
SUCH a fantastic video, man! Thank you for taking the time to research & find all the clips that you used for this. Absolutely spectacular!
That was so inspiring thank you for so many beautiful shots of rocket engines, explosive bolts, and enormous propellant doors. You don't see these detailed clips on just any channel...👍🏻
I think the most impressive i've seen since watching the early Apollo missions, is the self landing space x rockets, that's some amazing tech right there.
That was a dead end in Orbit. Hard to believe, but very true. But Elon is the real thing. His rockets done what he set out to do. Apollo faked their accomplishment to the Moon. And were CAUGHT by their own film. Elon 100%
At 09:40 it says a 150 inch lens with a 4000mm focal length. 150 inch is 3.8 meters. A 3.8m wide lens would be a fantastic thing! But it would also be more than twice as large as the largest single lens ever made!
It should of course be 150mm with 4000mm focal length!
See, that's the sort of thing I'd never catch because I have no idea how big anything sized in Imperial is without breaking out a calculator. I just write off any measurements given in Imperial as being unimportant. To me "inch" just means "vague small distance" in the same way "football field" means "vague large area".
Or "a 4000mm focal length, f/26 lens" (if indeed the minimum aperture was 150mm) That could be the front lens diameter ???
In the past, lenses were referred to in "inches", but this didn't mean their physical size, but rather the focal length. The standard 50mm lens for 35mm cameras was often called a "2 inch" lens. So divide 4000 by 25, and you get 160, roughly the 150 mentioned.
www2.l3t.com/brashear/products/standard_range_lenses.htm
That is the lens being used!
150" is the focal length!
I also talk about a 700mm lens and of course do not mean a lens with 700mm diameter ;-)
I like this video because it show how pepole converted a military device someting more paceful ting
Launching satellite into space, now we have evidence of directed energy weapons. .
A more peacefull thing. ?
Watching again because this was a damn good watch the first time.
Great job on this project, important to me, My Father and Brother worked at Johnson Space Center from the day it opened until 15 years ago. I have so many great memories from their stories. I cherish the mission patches that i have which were given to contractors that were flown on the shuttle. I Love your project. Thanks
@14:23 we can learn that *the unfortunate astronauts* did survive the blast of the rocket, while their life file came to an end from the impact with the sea surface.
If only their capsule had a workable parachute :-(
It appears you never watched the full footage of that disaster. I watched it live. There's plenty of videos available of it. After the explosion, the astronauts appear to not be aware of their fate. They are still communicating with the ground. They not only survived the explosion, but continued to communicate (briefly) as if nothing had happened. We are never shown (and likely will never be) at what point the communication stops, and if they were made aware of what happened, before they hit the ocean.
I can admit when I'm wrong, and I was just then, so I'll delete that comment so as not to spread misinformation. it's painful to admit, but after reading some reports on the condition of the wreckage and the state of the controls, it's pretty obvious they were alive and conscious until impact with the ocean. that's horrifying and depressing
What pissed me off is that NASA knew right from the start that some survived the explosion, but they didn't treat the aftermath as a rescue... just recovery of debris. The impact with the ocean would have been like concrete but they were in the toughest part of the ship. I wish they'd release the autopsy reports and tell us the real cause of death for each of them.
Richard, nobodies surviving such an impact. That would be like watching a jet liner crash and burn at 700mph, there’s no rescue. The forces involved upon impact are way beyond anything survivable, regardless of what it is. Humans are fragile.
True! Still can not believe how the space shuttle had no ejection or abort system in it, with a parashute for safe splashdown.
All manned missions/projects before the shuttle had this safety system. Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo capsules HAD the same abort system utilized ! If they had this system on the Challenger Shuttle the crew would have been alive now! Seems like the older minds in NASA did care more for the crew than nowdays.. such a shame..
Military: ‘Check out this epic new AA system!’
NASA: ‘We can turn this in to a fancy camera for launches.’
The video of the shuttle 3 main liquid engines igniting always give me goosebumps. The incredible violence of these engines is awesome. Pure, raw, barely contained POWER.
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this bloke is great..always watch his explanations.
Excellent work, just came across your channel. Quality like this is rare - Thank you.
That was a well collected information. Thank you so much. I am so mesmerized. People usually give credit to the Rocket scientists but not to the camera people or other people who indirectly support these missions. Had these camera people not captured the snags and mistakes, it would have been very difficult for NASA and other space agencies to figure out the issues. Thank you once again for sharing such amazing information. Appreciate it. Thank you. :)
This shit's crazy. Ive rarely, or never thought about any of this
Outstanding mini documentary! How is it that I've only just now stumbled upon this channel?!?
wow this topic totally blew my mind. Never gave an honest thought to the camera tech for the launches.....awesome vid
Forget to say - well done Curious Droid for having the curiosity decades afdter the event/s to refocus on what where sights never seen before by humans and the importance of imaging.
its amazing how far the technology come in such short time
The rocket breakup at the end of Koyaanisqatsi is the most amazing camera work to me.
Fantastic! Learned many new details about the launch footage.
Great documentary on the amazingly complicated task of visually documenting rocket launches.
I didn't realize how far back and just how much insane development went into just the cameras to film all the launches. I definitely took all of that for granted, and I have a minor in photography. I wish rocket cameras was part of the curriculum, this just made me feel like a 5 year old thinking about how awesome and cool all of this tech was. Your vids never stop amazing me, I wish they were documentary length.
My favorite footage from the OP is the Oct. 24, 1946 shot from Clyde Holliday's V-2 mounted 35mm movie camera showing the curvature of the 'flat' Earth...
If you listen closely, you can hear the rage boiling up in the flat earthers gaggle.
Well, V2's were used to flatten the earth. Thats why it is flat. duh.
Thanks for re-uploading. I'll just re-watch because it was great!
this was the first video that i watched of yours. now we are here again 5 years later
Just like the Kennedy assassination, I remember that January day in 1986, when the Challenger was destroyed. I had to leave for work before the launch but was listening to a news station in the car. All of these camera shots and footage helped NASA determine the probable causes. After learning some of the technicians warned of the O Ring issue, I believe those who authorized the launch after receiving this warning should have been fired, if not charged, if possible. This type of film is not only nostalgic for us older folks but also a great learning tool for our younger folks. I see this as a public service in education and shame on the LA Times for making a big deal out of this after 32 years.
Code3Forever i
The o-rings weren't talked about outside Morton-Thiokol until two weeks after the accident when Richard Feynman brought it up at a televised hearing.
If the folks at Morton-Thiokol talked about it among themselves with concern due to the freezing temperature and its effect on the O Rings, they should not have kept it in house and at least notified Mission Control about their concerns. I know hindsight is 20/20 at times but if there was a concern by a team member at MK, they should have examined that. Was there a rush to send the shuttle up that day or was it a cost factor? There is no calling for AAA when it involves spacecraft or aircraft.
Code3Forever - Hi, the engineers definitely did notify Mission Control about their concerns, as in no way, that's way too cold to launch, when Mission Control pushed a second time to get Morton-Thiokol's approval, management held a meeting without the engineers and gave the go ahead. From Mission Control 's perspective there had already been several delays and they were about to loose some PR points. My previous comment was to point out that even though everyone wanted to know what had happened, no one spoke about this meeting in public for two weeks, NASA was in no rush to discuss what happened and the O-ring topic was finally "leaked" out to Richard Feynman on the Rogers Commission.
I could be wrong but I seem to remember a woman was in charge of this launch and had the final word. I can't remember if this was for the Challenger or the Columbia. Do you know if there were any repercussions to staff who had a hand in authorizing this launch? The video here shows the cockpit area still intact after the explosion. I have often wondered if they built the shuttles where the crew sat during take off with a protective pod, if they could have survived... Same with the Columbia. I know it would add extra weight and cost but with a protected pod for the astronauts with parachutes or retro rockets, the shuttles may have been lost but all of them could still be alive... Ohh well, just an old man's thoughts. I can remember Sputnik when that took place and when Alan Shepherd took off. That was big news then and TV covered it.
My dad is a big photography fan, and he was really interested in exactly how they were able to get such high dynamic range in those shots of the Shuttle's SRBs. We haven't been able to find out how they did it, and I was wondering if you you knew. Who knows, maybe super high dynamic range cameras could be the subject of one of your future videos!
But also missed, because a lot of people are not aware of this...
Both Kodak and Ilford custom made and formulated film specifically for the launches. Some of the films had a 17 stop dynamic range
Ronald C Krause Jr Wow! That's amazing.
Well, he explained THAT it was done, but not HOW it was done. That might get a bit technical for a public video.
That's pretty incredible, but the films made for nuclear testing was equally impressive for its day. They had multiple emulsion layers on top of each other with the most sensitive uppermost. The bomb flash (through the telescopic lenses) would shine through the upper layers until they got to one that would expose correctly. As the flash dimmed, different layers would work until it was down to regular Plus-X (or whatever the daylight equivalent was).
Wow! where can we find more information? how was it developed? were the layers seperate enough to be viewed separately? super neat. thanks for sharing. @@hagerty1952
Wildlife photographers: lens is 400mm, 600mm, etc.
NASA: that's cute.
LA Who?? never heard of them.... im not watching it again.. but im giving it my like, since i watched the other one and definitely deserved it.. i never thought of the great extent taking this films go, until i saw this video..
Thank you, this was amazing. Having grown up in the Orlando area, I remember watching the Saturn 5B launches.
I always wonder how they got the film footage of the stage separations long before the advent of live video streams. Way cool.
I think it's crazy how long it has taken digital to catch up to film. My dad sent me a picture he took of the shuttle on the back of a 747 from the 70s or 80s, still looks crystal clear and the detail is amazing. Our point and shoot digital cameras only got to this point about 10 years ago
Agreed on your format, very different for TH-cam, keep it up, thanks for the knowledge!
Yep, hes just as good as discovery or history or science channels
I remember being in class 1986 watching the challenger on the tv and remember the challenger explosion but or a brief moment because the teacher turns the tv off.
The most memorable for me was the moon landing. I would have been about 12 years old and we went over to my grandparents place to watch on TV. Grandpa took a lot of family photos and that night he had his Olympus om 2 handy. As we were listening to one small step for man, Grandpa got close to the TV and snapped a couple of pictures. Grandpa passed away quite a few years ago and when my grandmother passed away I was given all the family photos. With hundreds and hundreds of slides that he took on Kodachrome, I finally found those pictures. the image quality leaves a lot to be desired as most people would have no clue what's going on in the picture........ But for me, it doesn't matter because I know what they are.
Thanks for the fantastic video and information about the cameras. I had no clue the cameras that captured the images of the different stages departing were from cameras that soon afterward, landed in the ocean. Thanks again.
Great video, Paul! Shame LA Times claimed, although i believe you should've been ok under fair use - seeing this is educational. anyway, fair play to you for re-uploading!
you are such a great teacher, 10 star commentary
Great vid! Getting a glimpse of other aspects like umbilicals and explosive bolts in operation are a treat to see in this video. Whenever watching a live manned space launch as a kid, I was most fascinated by the 'little stuff'--staging, escape tower separations, etc. Unfortunately, these would usually be left unseen because the broadcast would cut back to Walter Cronkite.
my favorite pieces of launch footage are falcon heavy landings.
I was a Contraves engineer in that group, 1976-77. Our shutterless camera was mounted on what we called Pulsed Laser Automatic Tracking System (PLATS) platform, ran at an uninterrupted rate of 1600 fps. The frame counter wasn't a 7 segment display, but a 1024 yellow LED matrix which showed up on the black and white still film as black vs white dots. Our system was used at White Sands Missile Range in the development of surface to air artillery tactical missiles, in my case the re-engineered HAWK system. Yes...I am (was) a rocket scientist! My brother is a conspiracy theorist who doesn't believe that we landed on the moon, even though his own brother worked with people who made it happen. Unbelievable!
Well we should never underestimate the power of ignorance, but in the end, the power of knowledge is still infinitely greater.
Doesn't shutterless mean it was timelapse filming.
Have always been fascinated by these shots and the equipment used to get them. What blew me away was the use of fiber optics on Apollo.... I HAD NO IDEA