This is very interesting in relation to EMDR (eye movement desensitisation reprogramming), a therapeutic technique also using side-to-side eye movements, but always very fast. I've done a fair bit of this. I did wonder as I started doing Feldenkrais whether slower movements might also work, and it seems that, for me at least, they do. Maybe they even work better. I found the link between the eyes and the back of the neck very clear and all of it was related to strong emotion, mainly intense sadness. The first time I had to stand up, I was really overwhelmed by it, as if a big weight on the back of my neck was forcing me down and also occluding my vision from above. My face was contorted as if I might start crying. I noticed that my eyeline was quite low. By focusing on the link between the eyes and the neck, I got clear of the weight and my eyeline raised. I have a pretty strong hunch that Feldenkrais could be used to develop some powerful psychotherapeutic techniques. I actually came to Feldenkrais through Besel Van Derk Kolk's book on trauma recovery, 'The Body Keeps the Score.' He only mentions Feldenkrais very briefly, but other things he talks about might point the way, notably the idea of 'completing' certain motions that are bottled up in one, e.g. a desire to hit out or a desire to cry. Last night, thinking in these terms, I felt what might help me was work on the face. First I found Emily Anderson's Jaw Release video, really a whole series of eye and face Feldenkrais exercise presented very quickly, then this. Of all the Feldenkrais classes, these have been the most powerful for me, giving me a sense of lightness, cheeriness and clarity, but also, as I say, in the case of this video, bringing up more difficult emotion too.
Just wonderful, been searching for "bad eyesight" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Patlarny Quit Glasses Principle - (just google it ) ? Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my buddy got amazing results with it.
Cheers for this, I have been researching "how to fix eyesight naturally" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Patlarny Quit Glasses Principle - (do a search on google ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my m8 got excellent success with it.
@@ImprovingAbilityHave you ever looked at Antarctica's Lake Fryxell (the mountain right above it, usually pictured)? Find a couple super resolution images of it, notice the purple and green extreme UV, and then look closer and further as you move the image towards and away from you, closing one eye then the other. You'll be astounded by what is there (hint, look for human faces). It’s not just in that location, it’s possibly everywhere there at least and the rest of the world, perhaps, but it is pronounced there, and at Rothera - I suspect that this is due to it being frozen, less erosion, etc., though this is merely a guess, it may be more... structural. Cheers PS the images need not be from the same angle, or even time of year, it may help to have some images with snow partially covering some surfaces and others in summer (definitely), some zoomed slightly in some further out, and it helps some people to sit back from the monitor on a couch or something and even others to view that monitor through their cellphone camera and zoom in and out on the cpu monitor with that - but you can put them in a folder and have them as your desktop wallpaper with dissolves between them and use this as your analglyph. It's a paradigm shifter and it changes (quite literally) everything. Best ps the extreme green copper and purple uv is there even if not immediately evident- always pps, if you look at aerials and other areas down there where this also occurs or zoom in closely on said images (sometimes - maybe always, idk, even low res images) you’ll notice large swatches or swathes of "volcanic" "vitrified" rock. These are the various scrolling intertwined banded lattices that mix various color and image signals. It's beyond genius and likely quite beyond even, say, nano tech. You can probably infer my general infestation. Cheers Redux
You do such a geat thing for the promotion of the Feldenkrais method with your videos in TH-cam!!! It's such a great pleasure to hear your christal clear explanations that I will just beginn to do the lessons not only in Hebrew after the original recording of Moshe, but also after your so sincer and clear speach. Your videos have also no noise in the background... I am really touched by your fantastic teaching!! Please, coninue doing such videos with ALL !! the lessons of Moshe. Thank you for your splendid presentation of the Feldenkrais Method after so many decades of traumatic distortion of this method by many others, who want to be more clever as Moshe Feldenkrais himself.
I really appreciate your videos, Alfons, and I share them with friends and clients. Each time I do a video with you, my sense of self expands, my nervous system falls into place, and my heart is lighter from your kind presence. Immense gratitude for your sharing your gift of Feldenkrais learning..
Dear Alfons, thank you for your good excersises. I am a physical therapist in the Netherlands and I give your youtube videos to some of my patients. So we work together, without you knowing we do;). For your information on this lesson, I can tell you that excersises for the upper neck (C0, C1, C2) are done with eye movements. Especially ecersises for head age and mobilisation on the upper neck. It works very good!
Thank you Alfons! For me this lesson is really not easy. I am very short-sighted and I did it over 3 days, each time for about 15 minutes because I fell asleep so often. As I understand it, the brain needs this time to process the new information. Hope I can do the lesson in full one day :D
Alfons thank you for making us aware of our physical, especially eyes, we have never been grateful to them. These exercises have been tried by myself before and now I feel I must continue to do so regularly. Thanks once again.
Second time I have done this lesson. Wow powerful. At the end stuck on floor for 20 min while right ankle rearranged itself (had an injury in it 30 years ago.) eyes feel much better organised in relation to the body. They were very stuck and jumpy, did not want to go to the left very far. Now they feel happier and softer, more enquiring. Thanks Alfons.
I did this lesson for the second time today, with an interim of a few months. About 12 minutes in my eyes scanned so smoothly across the horizon I involuntarily had to move my spine in lateral s curves. Quite a remarkable feeling.
Although it did'nt make such difference to my vision, this lesson really helped me perceive how my eyes and neck were working against each other before the lesson, in a very harmful way. I started being able to coordinate these movements in a more fluid and comfortable way. Thankyou very much!
Oh, exercices with eyes are alway really exausting for me. Went I did yoga class it was always the exercice I struggled with. This time it was different. More soft movement, you leading the exercice and all the comments is really supportive. After I felt more flex and soft in the back of my head, but I found that there is a lot of pressure back there. I will repeat slowly to see if it soften more a little each time. Thank you for your great lessons. I am getting aware of my body, like if I was disconnected after living out of stress and fear for too long. Lots to repair and re-educate but your lessons are just helping me so much. Great job you are doing, again, thank you.
Dear Alfons, this powerfully opens up the integration of eyes with your neck and body movement and proproception. I can feel my whole body arch up as I look towards the ceiling, then down to my feet. Then horizon, and eyes back to the center line concepts are something I am trying to work to refine. Really sneaky profound stuff. My tongue movement from side to side is also strangely effective coordinating with eye swing back and forth. As a 58 yr old tennis player I need all the hand eye efficacy I can get. Peace, Kevin from Maine
Dear Alfons- thank you for your wonderful gift of this practice for the eyes. I have lost most of my central vision in my left eye and am doing many approaches therapeutically to restore my sight. I recently discovered my left eye was unable to focus on distance (saw only the inner surface when I wore pinhole glasses). When I followed your session here for the first time, I noticed the part of me absent was in fact my emotional body (much early childhood trauma re fear, pain and horror in what I saw) and so I relaxed further with a few tears to enter full emotional presence and an alive feeling in my chest, when looking straight ahead. This was a true integration for me and a big step forward. Then, when looking up and down and back to centre, I became aware the 'centre' was actually looking down below centre- which revealed my fear of confronting the horror and shame that I witnessed in front of me way back when... again I was required to make an emotional expansion, breathing to allow and let pass my blocked emotion; resulting in my newfound ability to look straight ahead with ease. I call these major breakthroughs for me. Also my myopia was reduced, as I could see distance more clearly midway and at the end of your lesson. My sincere gratitude to you, Alfonso, for so generously passing on your awareness and knowledge of the The Feldenkrais Approach! :-)
Amazing lesson Alfons! THANK YOU. At 3/4 of the lesson and standing my eyes felt like huge, heavy balls that were directing my movements. Never realized the work they do. Anna
Wonderful results Eyes to neck to lower down till feet awereness interconnected, sensitive every part of body Prime of whole body is Eyes This awareness of mobility of every part eyes to feet, brought the health back,tremendous changes in every part and light feeling, playfull child like Thank you very much God bless you 😍 May I request you for guidance in Hearing loss or deficit Waiting for your vedio on ear, listening,hearing
Thank you for your input, I will give it a try. I have also been experimenting with pinhole glasses. I also find your video very relaxing and sometimes I drift off and dont get to the end! Many many thanks Alfons. Christian
I thoroughly enjoyed this lesson, I am interested in exploring more Feldenkrais face and neck lessons. Thank you for helping me become more aware of my eyes and how they are improved by these wonderful movements.
This was fantastic. I find my vertical midline runs along my spine and nose My midpoint seems to to center somewhere between the tip of my nose and my eyes themselves. Generally it felt like they aligned with horizontal plane of my eyes yet at times the seemed a bit lower. The feather look close then far as it moved off to right side. Had my eyes feeling a bit stuck when we transitioned to the same action but on the left. When we stood up the first time I felt so much lighter. My weight on me feet had moved a bit more onto the balls of my feet and it was much easier to have my knees slightly bent without fatigue avoiding my years of tendency to hyper flex towards the back ( I have naturally loose ligaments ). So I felt much lighter in general and my full standing alignment felt much more fluid. My favorite part was when we were on our belly’s. It was so very relaxing for the eyes. The right and left eye movements really smoothed out. When we stood up again I felt even lighter and was walking all around with my eyes close and I felt I had a improved stability and awareness of my soundings. 😀. When we were back on the floor and eyes closed moved the eyes left and right with slight head rolls I noticed to the right there was like a speed bump and I narrowed it down to a stiffness in the right neck/head muscles. I took time to body scan and found the right side of my body was pulling in toward the center. My right leg was shortened and pulled up inside the hip the hip was pulling up towards the ribs. And the right shoulder was pulled up towards the right ear. ( I have sciatica flaring on my right sides so a bit of self protection?) I breathed into the right side of my body and tried to soften into the right side of my body and thought “Lengthen soften”. That helped some. My improvisation in this series was to do figure 8’s with my eyes crossing both up and down across the midline and then do full circles both right and left. As well, as a asterisk pattern.: up, down, diagonal-up left, left, diagonal-down left, right, diagonal-up right, diagonal-down right. I really wanted to play with all those points as well. As I type this I realized I did not include close and distance focus on each of the explorations. I will remember to play with that next time. Thank you for your playfulness.
I started freaking out about vision loss and so thought I would follow this video for the second time and see what happened. Beforehand, I had taken a non-diagnostic online eye test a few times for each eye and my scores were somewhere between 20/40 and 20/30. For reference, during my teenage years, I took a couple eye tests at the optometrist's and scored between 20/15 and 20/20, so after a decade or so there has definitely been some vision loss. After doing the video, my scores started to be between 20/30 and 20/20. These results are hardly scientific, but they're certainly encouraging!
my eyes are genetically crooked and according to the optometrist I should have problems with vision. I score near perfect scores though. It's worth investing time here, vision is super important.
Thank you so much for this lesson. The first time I did the lesson, I got such terrible vertigo, I had to hold on to the bed, just moving my eyes with lids closed made everything spin. I am not sure why this happened. Has anyone else experienced this? The second time I did this exercise, there was a small amount of vertigo, but not like first time. After one week there was no more vertigo. Also one of the days I was moving my eyes and suddenly they felt like someone threw sand in them, very gritty. Overall I would say my vision has improved somewhat, I haven't done any measurements, but will wait a month and then go and check. I am also noticing that my eyes need a day to recover, so doing these every second day works better for me. Thank you once again, Alfons!
Hi Thea, great observations, thank you for sharing! The eyes can be strongly linked to balance. Therefore, when you start to do this kind of learning, and start to differentiate your eye movements from other functions (such as maintaining balance) you might experience vertigo. There should be plenty of literature about this (maybe Bates is a good starting point?). The more independently your eyes are, and the more experience you gather, the better it will be. Think of: you can use them for balance, but you don't have to. Having choices means freedom. And better balance. In the long run probably better eye sight too (because they get less strained and are more free). Best greetings, Alfons
This is the first time for me for such experience. I feel my body more grounded, more balanced, when standing at the end.. I feel the space around me wider and as if my oura is wider or my borders are wider.also I feel as if my eyes are wider and see things clearer. Also feel relaxed. Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful session .
These exercises have a soothing effect on me, my body, my sensing, my being aware. The richt eye was slightly more blurred than the left eye. And now the blur is smaller. My left eye is now more unsharp... Life of the eyes: so strange... Great lesson, Alfons. thank you.
Greetings, Alfons: I'm a dental hygienist. I utilize loupes (magnifiers) and an LED light to perform. I practice this eye improvement exercise daily after work. My experience is healing and relaxing and restorative. My entire body responds positively to Feldenkrais exercises. I appreciate your life's work. Thank you, thank you.....
Wonderful experience for me. I noticed that my left eye movement was slower and I could feel the neck muscles more. I also noticed that looking down made the neck muscles ache a little. Thank you!
Hello Alfons, This was a very interesting lesson. In the beginning I unable to move my eyes to the right without the eye opening. In your reply to one my previous comments after doing the hip joint video, you observed that my situation my be higher up in the head or neck. I thought your reply was perceptive, and in this lesson you said that difficulty moving eyes to the right may mean tension in the right side of the neck. It is definitely more difficult to look either to the left or right, and up and down with eyes closed. My eyes seem smaller, than they were years ago, and this is probably due to the physical imbalances, mostly on the right side, invoking compensatory tension and secondary problems elsewhere. I shall have to practice this lesson more. It is definitely very profound and far reaching in its implications and applications. And the comments of others are certainly edifying as well. I found at the end of the lesson that my oesophagus seemed to open up and I could feel life force circulating due to the movements. Sincere thanks and appreciation.
I've had 3 operations on my left eye, and the movement felt completely different, left to right. After 30min I was exhausted. I will try it some more to train my left eye, it's needed. Thanks for this class!
After few times of left and right my neck was following the moment of the eyeballs..and when I was looking far the horizon my chin was going front and there was a nice rolling of my head!
Interesting correlation between my Scoliosis and where my 'midline' seemed to be i.e. over to the side of the concavity! Also when I stood up my weight was super-grounded in my feet and my head and shoulders had moved way back compared to where they normally are. My 'horizon' or eye-line was up towards the ceiling!
At first I found this lesson very strenuous on the eyes, and also I had some emotional resistance to it. But by the end, I felt very present with my vision. The day after, I had gained flexibility in my neck, turning left and right, amazing!
Eye movements got a lot smoother. Also felt neck muscles move when eyes moved from side to side. And improved awareness between eye and body coordination. Thanks!
Today is the eleventh or tenth time I have practiced this lesson. Eight have been in the last couple of weeks. I am doing research about the eyes for a diploma in somatic education. I am really thankful and appreciate your generous sharing of knowledge and of a method not to known or practiced here in Perú. I wonder if you have any videos for People that havent walked for a while because of disease and are trying todo recover mobility. I also wanted to know if you would consider a Spanish version of some of your audios. I will be happy to help maybe with this and one or two more if you would like to consider that. Thanks again not only for this but for many other videos you posted that have been useful and helpful so far.
A lot more can be said about the eyes. In Feldenkrais we often speak about two big topics: 1. Light created the eyes (somehow) 2. Specialisation. You can see when children don't get enough light and study a lot with very poor light they will need to wear glasses. Also in terms of specialisation this is the most difficult thing to do. Eliminate all but a few movements the eyes will deteriorate. Therefore we try to move the eyes through their whole range of possibilities to help them. Big topics with a lot to say. I don't have Spanish translations, but it would make sense! Thank you for being on board and your commitment to my videos. Best greetings! Alfons
Wow it was interesting to notice how my heart rate actually went up during that lesson and at times breathing became heavy like when I would workout... I needed many breaks but this was so powerful
Thank you for this lesson...when you described the eyeballs hanging when lying on your belly...I became ill while doing that. I don't know why..It could be some equilibrium difficulty. Other than that I really enjoyed this and look forward (pardon the pun) to doing it again and feeling the neck muscles.
My right eye is weaker and I have a catch on the right shoulder. I could not ‘find’ the centre between the eyes while lying face down. This exercise, though long enough combined the eye movement with the body. Thank you, will practice for some days.
Thanks so much for relating to me so I don't feel like I"m the only one with these issues. I love your videos. Two more questions: Feldenkrais always says to move the eyes with your head, which I know is good. But my kids offer me a suggestion of when I'm reading without having to look down so much, to keep my head in place and just look down with my eyes. Is that a good suggestion or wouldn't that cause strain?? Also, I want to get to using shoes with lower heels but right now my shoes are 12 mm. can I still work and achieve on keeping good alignment when walking with shoes that have a slight heel on that?? What are your opinions?
I got tight suboccipitals all the time and I noticed they tightened on me during this lesson. I realized the whole time I was looking straight up at the “horizon” and then something clicked. They say when using the computer screen to have the majority of “text” at 30 degrees below the horizon right so taht eyes and neck don’t tense. Because i know the eyes are connected to the suboccipitals. WHen at the end of the lesson you mentioned looking at a soft spot down where the ceiling meets the wall, things softened up on me. Should we always be letting our eyes look down off the horizon in everything we do then?? I think I’ve been “trying to hard” (hence the tight jaw right) to keep my head up and not go into forward head posture, even when walking outside, that I think that’s what is tensing my suboccipitals. AM I correct in my thinking?? Maybe this could be a life changer for me because I was working so hard (I Know, don’t get on me,) but to sense if I was doing things lightly, that I realized that my eyes weren’t even moving with my jaw until you said something, so I definitely need to revist this lesson many times, but the big question is: Should the eyes always be down from “horizon” to keep suboccipitals relaxed, during all lessons, so you shouldn’t be looking straight up at the ceiling? ANd should it be the same in all normal activity?? Thanks Reply
I suffer from Uveitis, feel eyes are relaxed after doing this lesson. Also tired. Does anyone has experience with this method and I wonder if it is good or bad to do this while taking prednisolon eye drops which can cause early cataract or glaucoma; anyone knows if these movements are good/bad for eyepressure?. Thank you Alfons!
Take breaks as you see fit, also no need to do the whole session. Do parts, stay within your comfort zone. My latest videos (twist in side sitting) fit with this session in terms of eye work. Btw, my mom was diagnosed with early cataract, but with a plant based diet it completely cleared. Doctor was quite surprised.
there's smaller muscles about everywhere. We work with them through making small movements, slow, lying down (resting the big so called "anti gravity muscles"). Look at the spine, if you disregard the big surface muscles, deep down the vertebrae are covered in smaller muscles, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them.
Thanks Alfons! At the beginning i was thinking a lot: 'should i move my head accompanying the eyes are not?' I didn't move my head, because you said 'eyes', but then i let go some more and my head just came along. 😊 regards
in my experience you can improve various properties of perceived (subjective) perception (e.g. depth perception) within a few hours. There might be a correlation between time invested and improvement. I'm not aware of any studies or statistics. Success stories are personal anecdotes. Like the story of David Webber for example, who went from "I could barely count fingers in front of my face and my visual acuity was 20/800. I was declared legally blind" to "I have been without medication for my eyes and today my acuity is 20/25" with this kind of Feldenkrais lessons www.davidwebberseeingclearly.com/about/
I was super losing balance trying to stand with my eyes closed. Does this mean I need to work on this alot more?? I have lots of tightness in the occipital muscles and I know they affect the eyes and thus balance as well.
@@ImprovingAbility One more question, maybe 2. After you have us lay down on our stomach to feel the weight of the eyeballs, do we continue to stay there for the following left/right work and is all that left/right work done with eyes closed??
Ha ha half way through I opened my eyes then it self very clear. Ss...I do meditation then I also I notice my breathing is not smooth when I have a nose mild block , the side of my shoulder injury. Palming the eyes
@@ImprovingAbility Hi, I'm experimenting different ways I can do this exercise. Is it okay to do it while my eyes are open? If not, could you explain why closing eyes is important? Thank you very much.
This is very interesting in relation to EMDR (eye movement desensitisation reprogramming), a therapeutic technique also using side-to-side eye movements, but always very fast. I've done a fair bit of this. I did wonder as I started doing Feldenkrais whether slower movements might also work, and it seems that, for me at least, they do. Maybe they even work better. I found the link between the eyes and the back of the neck very clear and all of it was related to strong emotion, mainly intense sadness. The first time I had to stand up, I was really overwhelmed by it, as if a big weight on the back of my neck was forcing me down and also occluding my vision from above. My face was contorted as if I might start crying. I noticed that my eyeline was quite low. By focusing on the link between the eyes and the neck, I got clear of the weight and my eyeline raised.
I have a pretty strong hunch that Feldenkrais could be used to develop some powerful psychotherapeutic techniques. I actually came to Feldenkrais through Besel Van Derk Kolk's book on trauma recovery, 'The Body Keeps the Score.' He only mentions Feldenkrais very briefly, but other things he talks about might point the way, notably the idea of 'completing' certain motions that are bottled up in one, e.g. a desire to hit out or a desire to cry. Last night, thinking in these terms, I felt what might help me was work on the face. First I found Emily Anderson's Jaw Release video, really a whole series of eye and face Feldenkrais exercise presented very quickly, then this. Of all the Feldenkrais classes, these have been the most powerful for me, giving me a sense of lightness, cheeriness and clarity, but also, as I say, in the case of this video, bringing up more difficult emotion too.
Wonderful sharing! Very deep. This is helping me (and I hope many other people) a lot.
Thanks, Alfons. Your lessons are helping me a lot too, so it's great to hear I can give something back.
Just wonderful, been searching for "bad eyesight" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Patlarny Quit Glasses Principle - (just google it ) ? Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my buddy got amazing results with it.
Cheers for this, I have been researching "how to fix eyesight naturally" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Patlarny Quit Glasses Principle - (do a search on google ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my m8 got excellent success with it.
@@ImprovingAbilityHave you ever looked at Antarctica's Lake Fryxell (the mountain right above it, usually pictured)? Find a couple super resolution images of it, notice the purple and green extreme UV, and then look closer and further as you move the image towards and away from you, closing one eye then the other. You'll be astounded by what is there (hint, look for human faces). It’s not just in that location, it’s possibly everywhere there at least and the rest of the world, perhaps, but it is pronounced there, and at Rothera - I suspect that this is due to it being frozen, less erosion, etc., though this is merely a guess, it may be more... structural.
Cheers
PS the images need not be from the same angle, or even time of year, it may help to have some images with snow partially covering some surfaces and others in summer (definitely), some zoomed slightly in some further out, and it helps some people to sit back from the monitor on a couch or something and even others to view that monitor through their cellphone camera and zoom in and out on the cpu monitor with that - but you can put them in a folder and have them as your desktop wallpaper with dissolves between them and use this as your analglyph.
It's a paradigm shifter and it changes (quite literally) everything.
Best
ps the extreme green copper and purple uv is there even if not immediately evident- always
pps, if you look at aerials and other areas down there where this also occurs or zoom in closely on said images (sometimes - maybe always, idk, even low res images) you’ll notice large swatches or swathes of "volcanic" "vitrified" rock. These are the various scrolling intertwined banded lattices that mix various color and image signals. It's beyond genius and likely quite beyond even, say, nano tech. You can probably infer my general infestation.
Cheers Redux
You do such a geat thing for the promotion of the Feldenkrais method with your videos in TH-cam!!! It's such a great pleasure to hear your christal clear explanations that I will just beginn to do the lessons not only in Hebrew after the original recording of Moshe, but also after your so sincer and clear speach. Your videos have also no noise in the background... I am really touched by your fantastic teaching!! Please, coninue doing such videos with ALL !! the lessons of Moshe. Thank you for your splendid presentation of the Feldenkrais Method after so many decades of traumatic distortion of this method by many others, who want to be more clever as Moshe Feldenkrais himself.
I really appreciate your videos, Alfons, and I share them with friends and clients. Each time I do a video with you, my sense of self expands, my nervous system falls into place, and my heart is lighter from your kind presence. Immense gratitude for your sharing your gift of Feldenkrais learning..
Dear Alfons, thank you for your good excersises. I am a physical therapist in the Netherlands and I give your youtube videos to some of my patients. So we work together, without you knowing we do;). For your information on this lesson, I can tell you that excersises for the upper neck (C0, C1, C2) are done with eye movements. Especially ecersises for head age and mobilisation on the upper neck. It works very good!
Thank you Alfons! For me this lesson is really not easy. I am very short-sighted and I did it over 3 days, each time for about 15 minutes because I fell asleep so often. As I understand it, the brain needs this time to process the new information. Hope I can do the lesson in full one day :D
Alfons thank you for making us aware of our physical, especially eyes, we have never been grateful to them. These exercises have been tried by myself before and now I feel I must continue to do so regularly. Thanks once again.
Second time I have done this lesson. Wow powerful. At the end stuck on floor for 20 min while right ankle rearranged itself (had an injury in it 30 years ago.) eyes feel much better organised in relation to the body. They were very stuck and jumpy, did not want to go to the left very far. Now they feel happier and softer, more enquiring. Thanks Alfons.
I did this lesson for the second time today, with an interim of a few months. About 12 minutes in my eyes scanned so smoothly across the horizon I involuntarily had to move my spine in lateral s curves. Quite a remarkable feeling.
Very nice! Good sharing, Danke Nils
Although it did'nt make such difference to my vision, this lesson really helped me perceive how my eyes and neck were working against each other before the lesson, in a very harmful way. I started being able to coordinate these movements in a more fluid and comfortable way. Thankyou very much!
Oh, exercices with eyes are alway really exausting for me. Went I did yoga class it was always the exercice I struggled with. This time it was different. More soft movement, you leading the exercice and all the comments is really supportive. After I felt more flex and soft in the back of my head, but I found that there is a lot of pressure back there. I will repeat slowly to see if it soften more a little each time. Thank you for your great lessons. I am getting aware of my body, like if I was disconnected after living out of stress and fear for too long. Lots to repair and re-educate but your lessons are just helping me so much. Great job you are doing, again, thank you.
Dear Alfons, this powerfully opens up the integration of eyes with your neck and body movement and proproception. I can feel my whole body arch up as I look towards the ceiling, then down to my feet. Then horizon, and eyes back to the center line concepts are something I am trying to work to refine. Really sneaky profound stuff. My tongue movement from side to side is also strangely effective coordinating with eye swing back and forth. As a 58 yr old tennis player I need all the hand eye efficacy I can get. Peace, Kevin from Maine
Thank you for sharing Kevin, these are very profound insights :-)
@@ImprovingAbility so in theory, the head should be rolling iwth these movements?? if so, I have lots more work to do with this lesson!
Dear Alfons- thank you for your wonderful gift of this practice for the eyes. I have lost most of my central vision in my left eye and am doing many approaches therapeutically to restore my sight. I recently discovered my left eye was unable to focus on distance (saw only the inner surface when I wore pinhole glasses). When I followed your session here for the first time, I noticed the part of me absent was in fact my emotional body (much early childhood trauma re fear, pain and horror in what I saw) and so I relaxed further with a few tears to enter full emotional presence and an alive feeling in my chest, when looking straight ahead. This was a true integration for me and a big step forward. Then, when looking up and down and back to centre, I became aware the 'centre' was actually looking down below centre- which revealed my fear of confronting the horror and shame that I witnessed in front of me way back when... again I was required to make an emotional expansion, breathing to allow and let pass my blocked emotion; resulting in my newfound ability to look straight ahead with ease. I call these major breakthroughs for me.
Also my myopia was reduced, as I could see distance more clearly midway and at the end of your lesson.
My sincere gratitude to you, Alfonso, for so generously passing on your awareness and knowledge of the The Feldenkrais Approach! :-)
Thank you for sharing .,.
Thank you for this session.
Amazing lesson Alfons! THANK YOU. At 3/4 of the lesson and standing my eyes felt like huge, heavy balls that were directing my movements. Never realized the work they do. Anna
Wonderful results
Eyes to neck to lower down till feet awereness interconnected, sensitive every part of body
Prime of whole body is Eyes
This awareness of mobility of every part eyes to feet, brought the health back,tremendous changes in every part and light feeling, playfull child like
Thank you very much
God bless you 😍
May I request you for guidance in Hearing loss or deficit
Waiting for your vedio on ear, listening,hearing
Thank you. That was interesting
Thank you for your input, I will give it a try. I have also been experimenting with pinhole glasses. I also find your video very relaxing and sometimes I drift off and dont get to the end! Many many thanks Alfons. Christian
thank you!
Beautiful. I feel and sense more flow, more suppleness in moving. Lovely. thanks.
Alfons. Thank you. I have recovered my depth perception.
wonderful self experience of eye body coordination
I thoroughly enjoyed this lesson, I am interested in exploring more Feldenkrais face and neck lessons. Thank you for helping me become more aware of my eyes and how they are improved by these wonderful movements.
This was fantastic. I find my vertical midline runs along my spine and nose My midpoint seems to to center somewhere between the tip of my nose and my eyes themselves. Generally it felt like they aligned with horizontal plane of my eyes yet at times the seemed a bit lower. The feather look close then far as it moved off to right side. Had my eyes feeling a bit stuck when we transitioned to the same action but on the left.
When we stood up the first time I felt so much lighter. My weight on me feet had moved a bit more onto the balls of my feet and it was much easier to have my knees slightly bent without fatigue avoiding my years of tendency to hyper flex towards the back ( I have naturally loose ligaments ). So I felt much lighter in general and my full standing alignment felt much more fluid.
My favorite part was when we were on our belly’s. It was so very relaxing for the eyes. The right and left eye movements really smoothed out. When we stood up again I felt even lighter and was walking all around with my eyes close and I felt I had a improved stability and awareness of my soundings. 😀.
When we were back on the floor and eyes closed moved the eyes left and right with slight head rolls I noticed to the right there was like a speed bump and I narrowed it down to a stiffness in the right neck/head muscles. I took time to body scan and found the right side of my body was pulling in toward the center. My right leg was shortened and pulled up inside the hip the hip was pulling up towards the ribs. And the right shoulder was pulled up towards the right ear. ( I have sciatica flaring on my right sides so a bit of self protection?) I breathed into the right side of my body and tried to soften into the right side of my body and thought “Lengthen soften”. That helped some.
My improvisation in this series was to do figure 8’s with my eyes crossing both up and down across the midline and then do full circles both right and left. As well, as a asterisk pattern.: up, down, diagonal-up left, left, diagonal-down left, right, diagonal-up right, diagonal-down right. I really wanted to play with all those points as well. As I type this I realized I did not include close and distance focus on each of the explorations. I will remember to play with that next time.
Thank you for your playfulness.
I started freaking out about vision loss and so thought I would follow this video for the second time and see what happened. Beforehand, I had taken a non-diagnostic online eye test a few times for each eye and my scores were somewhere between 20/40 and 20/30. For reference, during my teenage years, I took a couple eye tests at the optometrist's and scored between 20/15 and 20/20, so after a decade or so there has definitely been some vision loss. After doing the video, my scores started to be between 20/30 and 20/20. These results are hardly scientific, but they're certainly encouraging!
my eyes are genetically crooked and according to the optometrist I should have problems with vision. I score near perfect scores though. It's worth investing time here, vision is super important.
Thank you so much for this lesson. The first time I did the lesson, I got such terrible vertigo, I had to hold on to the bed, just moving my eyes with lids closed made everything spin. I am not sure why this happened. Has anyone else experienced this? The second time I did this exercise, there was a small amount of vertigo, but not like first time. After one week there was no more vertigo. Also one of the days I was moving my eyes and suddenly they felt like someone threw sand in them, very gritty. Overall I would say my vision has improved somewhat, I haven't done any measurements, but will wait a month and then go and check. I am also noticing that my eyes need a day to recover, so doing these every second day works better for me. Thank you once again, Alfons!
Hi Thea, great observations, thank you for sharing! The eyes can be strongly linked to balance. Therefore, when you start to do this kind of learning, and start to differentiate your eye movements from other functions (such as maintaining balance) you might experience vertigo. There should be plenty of literature about this (maybe Bates is a good starting point?). The more independently your eyes are, and the more experience you gather, the better it will be. Think of: you can use them for balance, but you don't have to. Having choices means freedom. And better balance. In the long run probably better eye sight too (because they get less strained and are more free). Best greetings, Alfons
Thank you Alfons It was great to follow this class. At the end the awareness of movement, with focussing on objects in my room felt like dancing.
This is the first time for me for such experience. I feel my body more grounded, more balanced, when standing at the end.. I feel the space around me wider and as if my oura is wider or my borders are wider.also I feel as if my eyes are wider and see things clearer. Also feel relaxed. Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful session .
These exercises have a soothing effect on me, my body, my sensing, my being aware. The richt eye was slightly more blurred than the left eye. And now the blur is smaller. My left eye is now more unsharp... Life of the eyes: so strange... Great lesson, Alfons. thank you.
Greetings, Alfons: I'm a dental hygienist. I utilize loupes (magnifiers) and an LED light to perform. I practice this eye improvement exercise daily after work. My experience is healing and relaxing and restorative. My entire body responds positively to Feldenkrais exercises. I appreciate your life's work. Thank you, thank you.....
Wonderful experience for me. I noticed that my left eye movement was slower and I could feel the neck muscles more. I also noticed that looking down made the neck muscles ache a little. Thank you!
Hello Alfons, This was a very interesting lesson. In the beginning I unable to move my eyes to the right without the eye opening. In your reply to one my previous comments after doing the hip joint video, you observed that my situation my be higher up in the head or neck. I thought your reply was perceptive, and in this lesson you said that difficulty moving eyes to the right may mean tension in the right side of the neck. It is definitely more difficult to look either to the left or right, and up and down with eyes closed. My eyes seem smaller, than they were years ago, and this is probably due to the physical imbalances, mostly on the right side, invoking compensatory tension and secondary problems elsewhere. I shall have to practice this lesson more. It is definitely very profound and far reaching in its implications and applications. And the comments of others are certainly edifying as well. I found at the end of the lesson that my oesophagus seemed to open up and I could feel life force circulating due to the movements. Sincere thanks and appreciation.
I've had 3 operations on my left eye, and the movement felt completely different, left to right. After 30min I was exhausted. I will try it some more to train my left eye, it's needed. Thanks for this class!
Thank you for sharing ! Definitely give it a rest and try again .. or better, do much less, little enough to not become exhausted... much less :-)
After few times of left and right my neck was following the moment of the eyeballs..and when I was looking far the horizon my chin was going front and there was a nice rolling of my head!
Great experience with eye body coordination thank u
Interesting correlation between my Scoliosis and where my 'midline' seemed to be i.e. over to the side of the concavity! Also when I stood up my weight was super-grounded in my feet and my head and shoulders had moved way back compared to where they normally are. My 'horizon' or eye-line was up towards the ceiling!
beautiful feedback, thank you for sharing :-)
At first I found this lesson very strenuous on the eyes, and also I had some emotional resistance to it. But by the end, I felt very present with my vision. The day after, I had gained flexibility in my neck, turning left and right, amazing!
Eye movements got a lot smoother. Also felt neck muscles move when eyes moved from side to side. And improved awareness between eye and body coordination. Thanks!
Alfons your the best, thank you
Today is the eleventh or tenth time I have practiced this lesson. Eight have been in the last couple of weeks. I am doing research about the eyes for a diploma in somatic education. I am really thankful and appreciate your generous sharing of knowledge and of a method not to known or practiced here in Perú. I wonder if you have any videos for People that havent walked for a while because of disease and are trying todo recover mobility. I also wanted to know if you would consider a Spanish version of some of your audios. I will be happy to help maybe with this and one or two more if you would like to consider that. Thanks again not only for this but for many other videos you posted that have been useful and helpful so far.
A lot more can be said about the eyes. In Feldenkrais we often speak about two big topics: 1. Light created the eyes (somehow) 2. Specialisation. You can see when children don't get enough light and study a lot with very poor light they will need to wear glasses. Also in terms of specialisation this is the most difficult thing to do. Eliminate all but a few movements the eyes will deteriorate. Therefore we try to move the eyes through their whole range of possibilities to help them. Big topics with a lot to say. I don't have Spanish translations, but it would make sense! Thank you for being on board and your commitment to my videos. Best greetings! Alfons
Thank you, Alfons. I would like to help translating this one at least if you agree as a way of saying thank you. 😊
"Come to standing, you must." Master Yoda Alfons is.
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Thank you for creating this videos! It works. But I wounder how it works? Do you have links or just some thoughts on that question? )
Wow it was interesting to notice how my heart rate actually went up during that lesson and at times breathing became heavy like when I would workout... I needed many breaks but this was so powerful
Wow. Thanks.
Thank you for this lesson...when you described the eyeballs hanging when lying on your belly...I became ill while doing that. I don't know why..It could be some equilibrium difficulty.
Other than that I really enjoyed this and look forward (pardon the pun) to doing it again and feeling the neck muscles.
My right eye is weaker and I have a catch on the right shoulder. I could not ‘find’ the centre between the eyes while lying face down. This exercise, though long enough combined the eye movement with the body. Thank you, will practice for some days.
I really need it for or my eyes
Thanks so much for relating to me so I don't feel like I"m the only one with these issues. I love your videos. Two more questions: Feldenkrais always says to move the eyes with your head, which I know is good. But my kids offer me a suggestion of when I'm reading without having to look down so much, to keep my head in place and just look down with my eyes. Is that a good suggestion or wouldn't that cause strain?? Also, I want to get to using shoes with lower heels but right now my shoes are 12 mm. can I still work and achieve on keeping good alignment when walking with shoes that have a slight heel on that?? What are your opinions?
I got tight suboccipitals all the
time and I noticed they tightened on me during this lesson. I realized
the whole time I was looking straight up at the “horizon” and then
something clicked. They say when using the computer screen to have the
majority of “text” at 30 degrees below the horizon right so taht eyes
and neck don’t tense. Because i know the eyes are connected to the
suboccipitals. WHen at the end of the lesson you mentioned looking at a
soft spot down where the ceiling meets the wall, things softened up on
me. Should we always be letting our eyes look down off the horizon in
everything we do then?? I think I’ve been “trying to hard” (hence the
tight jaw right) to keep my head up and not go into forward head
posture, even when walking outside, that I think that’s what is tensing
my suboccipitals. AM I correct in my thinking?? Maybe this could be a
life changer for me because I was working so hard (I Know, don’t get on
me,) but to sense if I was doing things lightly, that I realized that
my eyes weren’t even moving with my jaw until you said something, so I
definitely need to revist this lesson many times, but the big question
is: Should the eyes always be down from “horizon” to keep suboccipitals
relaxed, during all lessons, so you shouldn’t be looking straight up at
the ceiling? ANd should it be the same in all normal activity?? Thanks
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It helps in my dystonia.. I will do it daily
I suffer from Uveitis, feel eyes are relaxed after doing this lesson. Also tired. Does anyone has experience with this method and I wonder if it is good or bad to do this while taking prednisolon eye drops which can cause early cataract or glaucoma; anyone knows if these movements are good/bad for eyepressure?. Thank you Alfons!
Take breaks as you see fit, also no need to do the whole session. Do parts, stay within your comfort zone. My latest videos (twist in side sitting) fit with this session in terms of eye work.
Btw, my mom was diagnosed with early cataract, but with a plant based diet it completely cleared. Doctor was quite surprised.
Feldenkrais with Alfons thanks!
I am curious, are there any other lessons, focused on the smaller muscles, in the feldenkrais system? like lessons for fingers or facial muscles... :D
there's smaller muscles about everywhere. We work with them through making small movements, slow, lying down (resting the big so called "anti gravity muscles"). Look at the spine, if you disregard the big surface muscles, deep down the vertebrae are covered in smaller muscles, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them.
Thanks Alfons! At the beginning i was thinking a lot: 'should i move my head accompanying the eyes are not?' I didn't move my head, because you said 'eyes', but then i let go some more and my head just came along. 😊 regards
+diverstalent keep on rolling ! :-)
Can this actually correct or improve vision?
in my experience you can improve various properties of perceived (subjective) perception (e.g. depth perception) within a few hours. There might be a correlation between time invested and improvement. I'm not aware of any studies or statistics. Success stories are personal anecdotes. Like the story of David Webber for example, who went from "I could barely count fingers in front of my face and my visual acuity was 20/800. I was declared legally blind" to "I have been without medication for my eyes and today my acuity is 20/25" with this kind of Feldenkrais lessons www.davidwebberseeingclearly.com/about/
I was super losing balance trying to stand with my eyes closed. Does this mean I need to work on this alot more?? I have lots of tightness in the occipital muscles and I know they affect the eyes and thus balance as well.
Maybe.... probably... improved proprioception for the whole body... I would guess this will take off strain from the eyes and neck etc
@@ImprovingAbility One more question, maybe 2. After you have us lay down on our stomach to feel the weight of the eyeballs, do we continue to stay there for the following left/right work and is all that left/right work done with eyes closed??
Ha ha half way through I opened my eyes then it self very clear.
Ss...I do meditation then I also I notice my breathing is not smooth when I have a nose mild block , the side of my shoulder injury.
Palming the eyes
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Omg. I have ADHD and following this is too much. Brain screams out of boredom.
practice in small portions or find a local group to join in person 😄
@@ImprovingAbility or perhaps I can try fidgeting with something in my hands at the same time. Thanks for the reply.
@@ImprovingAbility Hi, I'm experimenting different ways I can do this exercise. Is it okay to do it while my eyes are open? If not, could you explain why closing eyes is important? Thank you very much.
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