Same bro, I have had one roll that is close to good (Rewind/Surrounded) but I just always seem to get crappy rolls, which is weird because I've had a few great heliocentrics, as well as multiple great Crux Terminations, just can't get Ros Arago for the life of me 😂
I'm still trying to get a Heliocentric with Heal + Kill clip... And I spent days (literally) farming master lost sectors last season, trying to get one.
I love the Voltshot + revamped Eddy Current combo the most, especially on the Getaway Artist prismatic build. Literally don't ever have to think about encounters.
See I don't think so. They do pretty good damage but there are more of a souped up primary ammo weapon. They should keep rocket sidearms as they are and buff shotguns.
I swear you bring the heat. You and Coolguy are officially my go to 1st when I’m looking at what makes weapons unique or a total breakdown of them. Keep it going.
Its actually the 2nd (or first whichever you want to count first lol) as the raid Glaive can also roll with Chain Reaction. Doesn't have Discord though so I still personally prefer this specific shotty roll but the glaive can also get Reconstruction and it is a rapid fire frame so if anyone enjoys Glaives or they get some big change that makes them worth using over other special, might be something to look for. But yeah this shotgun is just amazing. Sadly only have one with Threat Detector + CR but still a ton of fun.
@@MavenPhoenix True! I just lumped it as weapons that dropped with TFS but you're correct, you could get this before the glaive lol. But yeah looks really cool. Fingers crossed for a glaive meta one day. Love the weapon type, just couldn't make many good builds around one so I'll be on the look out for your build in the future.
Could be solid for a prismatic no backup plans build. Arc weapon surge for both this and Legend of Acrius. Only problem is that double rocket sidearms can basically do the same thing but from range with the new exotic.
This has been my thought from the moment i got one with chain reaction. It instantly solves all the prismatic titan issues in one cool combo. You are still meh in the boss dps department but an absolute solid solo, farming or ad clear build.
@@niksen3300 Twilight Arsenal is still good for bosses. But I doubt this build will be able to suffice in anything above legend content. But I'd love to be proven wrong.
I made 2 builds for surrounding this exact roll: A Prismatic No Back-up Plans build and an Arc Precious Scars build. Surprisingly, the Arc Precious Scars build worked a lot better due to having access to Spark of Beacons. You just keep blinding everything.
@@Josh-tl8dl I suppose this makes sense. I think it's high time that they rework the exotic to apply whatever elemental-specific buff is attached to your super. That way you could run NBP on arc and get amplified and health regen.
Honestly. This roll sounds quite fun, but I got one with Stats For All/Voltshot, and Voltshot is incredible on this thing. Literally clears out rooms with the swiftness, as well as Jolting Overload Champions for the extra goodness. If you have one, but thought that Voltshot on a shotty sounds awful or like a waste, please give this thing a try, and I would be genuinely shocked if you didn't enjoy it 👍
This was my very first Legendary drop of the expansion! I'm also a huge Discord fan on special ammo so I immediately masterworked and locked it. Tons of fun! Love the channel by the way, lots of fun off-meta videos.
I found one with Surplus / chain reaction, was watching drops after your initial video a few weeks back. Now I'm no the hunt for that Discord one, thanks for the tip!
I actually got very lucky to get this exact roll the first week of the final shape and I've been using it a lot with no backup plans and titan to have a near 100% uptime on overshields
I got one with voltshot + discord and it pairs quite nice with my arc stronghold build with the fragment that makes blinding explosions with arc special and heavy, get a sword kill, blind everything and clean up with the shotgun and knockout
I got this on the first day, and it is super fun. I actually run it on a few builds including a tripple shotgun build with discord harmony risswalker and legend of acrus. Super fun
Very odd, got this roll yesterday and immediately made a priz hunter build and upgraded the granny. Today your vid is the first on my feed. Primary Someday shotty with lead from gold or revision 0 for chumps. Heavy Goldtusk tireless chain to complement. Thank you for awesome vids!
Got my drop from pvp during iron banner. Maybe wait for a mayhem week if you're a pvp avoider like myself. Im sure it drops from vanguard and gambit too
Enhanced discord on a special weapon has so much synergy with a lucky pants build, the 9 seconds downtime once you used your hand canon, was kind of jarring but now its much more fluid since you can keep killing stuff without worrying on weither you should spend heavy ammos.
this is crazy sadly cant get it bc i dont have TFS but im atm gladly farming the riiswalker, i also recently noticed the greatness of discord. Best thing is when you have 2 discord weapons. you just have infinite special
Cool! I kept several roles and I had a Discord/Chain! I also have a juicy Rifled/corkscrew assault mag, threat detector, Voltshot with a range MW to try out😎
I've gotten several of these and equipped them on my Hunter and Titan. Didn't know about this perk combo tho I'm prob gonna haveta Deepsight them now 😅
1 second is a lot in combat! I've noticed that throwing a diamond lance while airborne allows you to hover in midair for about a full second... Which is just enough time to fire a gl or rocket effectively.
Always love your breakdowns. Man I wish I could play as good as you. I am 63 years old and not as quick as you. I get my ass kicked more than I like, but your builds and videos keep me going. Thanks Maven ❤
World drops should be added to lost sectors the season they release (just like the change with ritual playlist weapons now being focusable immediately upon release) Can anyone confirm whether last seasons world drops are now in the lost sector rotation (I.e. Crux Termination). Can’t find info anywhere.
Discord is fun. It’s like back when we had old heavy handed giving infinite special ammo. Rip old mods, lol. It’s also probably also strong to run discord voltshot, you may just need to start with one round in the mag to reload it with discord.
Aint no way... I have been hunting for this roll since the expansion launched. I have gotten stats for all, surplus, and threat + chain but discord was not showing up. While this video was playing in the background I decided to turn in my hawthorn engrams. Out of 45 engrams I got 1 roll... That roll is corckscrew, appended, discord, chain, range mw.
Same. I blame Maven. I saw the discord and chain reaction and thought for a split second "that seems good" and vaulted it. Thank you for talking up discord so much
This is the point in the season everything gets saved and chucked in the vault, while folks sort things out. I was blessed to just find one of these with assault mag in there 🙏
I've had a few of these, thanks to your other video, I kept the voltshot/Eddie version. I need to haul it out and try it again with the getaway artist prismatic build. I've not really been a fan of discord, maybe if I get this roll I will give it a try. Thanks for the video!
Every time I shoot with chain reaction it's somehow proxing amplified. the only facet that I'm running that has any thing to do with it is facet of dominance. 🤔
Prismatic's suite of effects is much looser than the purist elemental subclasses. You can proc effects like amplified simply by running any arc related damage.
This is a world drop, but if you get one with a good roll it's needs locking, it's such a good special weapon it's worthy of upgrading, good luck hunting guardians
I got this roll a day or two after TFS dropped and deleted it. Then I saw your video and thought, "well, damn." I got it again this week, though. *Phew.*
I dont like perks like discord. I dont want to swap weapons to use other weapons. Im happy w my threat detector. Special ammo isnt so hard to get that i feel like i need discord. Fun weapon but i feel like a shotgun is what i need then im just ganna use conditional finality.
The drop rate is so cool that I'm still waiting for Ros Arago with the onslaught and rewind\subsistence.
you can farm it in legend lost sectors now. you can google the weapon rotation
Same bro, I have had one roll that is close to good (Rewind/Surrounded) but I just always seem to get crappy rolls, which is weird because I've had a few great heliocentrics, as well as multiple great Crux Terminations, just can't get Ros Arago for the life of me 😂
They are very common so no worries. Also get a rewind deconstruct for actium titan and never reload again... Ever
I'm still trying to get a Heliocentric with Heal + Kill clip... And I spent days (literally) farming master lost sectors last season, trying to get one.
@@D.K81 I feel that. There needs to be a focusing option for lost sectors the way onslaught had one
I love the Voltshot + revamped Eddy Current combo the most, especially on the Getaway Artist prismatic build. Literally don't ever have to think about encounters.
Unfortunately rocket side arms obsoleted shotguns for me. Shotguns just don't justify the amount of danger you have to get into to use them.
I have a feeling Rocket Sidearms will be nerfed at some point, they are too good. I hope they aren't but, we will see.
@@kelsonlewis9252 i feel like if they were going to get nerfed, they would have been hit by the final shape weapon balancing wave
@@1HKNGthat’s before we had the call
@@makaveliba4243 so? indebted kindness is still busted lmao
See I don't think so. They do pretty good damage but there are more of a souped up primary ammo weapon.
They should keep rocket sidearms as they are and buff shotguns.
I swear you bring the heat. You and Coolguy are officially my go to 1st when I’m looking at what makes weapons unique or a total breakdown of them. Keep it going.
Its actually the 2nd (or first whichever you want to count first lol) as the raid Glaive can also roll with Chain Reaction. Doesn't have Discord though so I still personally prefer this specific shotty roll but the glaive can also get Reconstruction and it is a rapid fire frame so if anyone enjoys Glaives or they get some big change that makes them worth using over other special, might be something to look for.
But yeah this shotgun is just amazing. Sadly only have one with Threat Detector + CR but still a ton of fun.
It came out before the raid. That raid glaive is cool though. I might build around it in the future
@@MavenPhoenix True! I just lumped it as weapons that dropped with TFS but you're correct, you could get this before the glaive lol. But yeah looks really cool. Fingers crossed for a glaive meta one day. Love the weapon type, just couldn't make many good builds around one so I'll be on the look out for your build in the future.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 Every day is glaive meta day for me. Don't let meta get in the way of fun!
This was the first roll i got of this shotgun and its definitely alot of fun to use! Great video Maven
Could be solid for a prismatic no backup plans build. Arc weapon surge for both this and Legend of Acrius. Only problem is that double rocket sidearms can basically do the same thing but from range with the new exotic.
This has been my thought from the moment i got one with chain reaction. It instantly solves all the prismatic titan issues in one cool combo. You are still meh in the boss dps department but an absolute solid solo, farming or ad clear build.
@@niksen3300 Twilight Arsenal is still good for bosses. But I doubt this build will be able to suffice in anything above legend content. But I'd love to be proven wrong.
I made 2 builds for surrounding this exact roll: A Prismatic No Back-up Plans build and an Arc Precious Scars build. Surprisingly, the Arc Precious Scars build worked a lot better due to having access to Spark of Beacons. You just keep blinding everything.
@@Josh-tl8dl I suppose this makes sense. I think it's high time that they rework the exotic to apply whatever elemental-specific buff is attached to your super. That way you could run NBP on arc and get amplified and health regen.
Honestly. This roll sounds quite fun, but I got one with Stats For All/Voltshot, and Voltshot is incredible on this thing.
Literally clears out rooms with the swiftness, as well as Jolting Overload Champions for the extra goodness.
If you have one, but thought that Voltshot on a shotty sounds awful or like a waste, please give this thing a try, and I would be genuinely shocked if you didn't enjoy it 👍
I have an old iron banner slug shotty with voltshot that I gotta pull out again, it’s sick
This was my very first Legendary drop of the expansion! I'm also a huge Discord fan on special ammo so I immediately masterworked and locked it. Tons of fun! Love the channel by the way, lots of fun off-meta videos.
"Dead grandma"
Maven you are the funniest with nicknames and always throw out hilarious quips completely deadpan. It's great, you're great
I found one with Surplus / chain reaction, was watching drops after your initial video a few weeks back. Now I'm no the hunt for that Discord one, thanks for the tip!
This roll dropped for me twice already! 🥂
I still need a better volt shot version, maybe with eddy current.
I got one with chain reaction and surplus, haven’t used it yet. Is it worth looking for that discord roll or is the one I have good enough?
how is your class ability always up ?
Radiant Dance Machines
No sooner than I watch this video, this roll drops for me!
I actually got very lucky to get this exact roll the first week of the final shape and I've been using it a lot with no backup plans and titan to have a near 100% uptime on overshields
Excellent review Maven! I've gotten this shotgun to drop with that combo twice. Maybe I'll give it a spin
Great video! Can it drop from Banshee as well or does he just give older weapons?
Banshee only drops the foundry weapons you can find in his focusing menu
@@MavenPhoenix thanks! I have 50 gunsmith engrams just sitting in my inventory. Maybe next season/episode we can target farm the shotgun.
Maven! I just got mine with Discord / Chain Reaction/ Extended Mag / Full Choke - Rifled Barrel
So happy! Now got infinite ammo shotgun 😊😊😊
i put one in my vault without knowing what discord do thank u for clearing that up lucky me i guess
I got one with voltshot + discord and it pairs quite nice with my arc stronghold build with the fragment that makes blinding explosions with arc special and heavy, get a sword kill, blind everything and clean up with the shotgun and knockout
I hadnt thought much about this gun over something like Indebted Kindness or certain Ergo Sum rolls. But this roll looks fun
I got this on the first day, and it is super fun. I actually run it on a few builds including a tripple shotgun build with discord harmony risswalker and legend of acrus. Super fun
Maven you move so majestic when you play. Your movement is very ninja like.. Its very nice to watch ❤
I just got this to drop the other day! It goes so hard. Good tips!
Very odd, got this roll yesterday and immediately made a priz hunter build and upgraded the granny. Today your vid is the first on my feed. Primary Someday shotty with lead from gold or revision 0 for chumps. Heavy Goldtusk tireless chain to complement. Thank you for awesome vids!
This looks super fun ty for the tip as usual
Another great video. Keep up the great work :)
Got my drop from pvp during iron banner. Maybe wait for a mayhem week if you're a pvp avoider like myself. Im sure it drops from vanguard and gambit too
My first drop of this I got chain reaction and discord, and it’s awesome and so fun!
Holy. Shit.
There’s no way I just popped this God-roll on its FIRST drop on a PUBLIC EVENT on EDZ?!???
That MIGHT be my best RNG ever. 😮
Enhanced discord on a special weapon has so much synergy with a lucky pants build, the 9 seconds downtime once you used your hand canon, was kind of jarring but now its much more fluid since you can keep killing stuff without worrying on weither you should spend heavy ammos.
I never play shotguns and tbh: this video is the first since 10y that i have to rethink… looks crazy 😊😮
Yeh, definitely try it with no back up plan, it just might be the perfect shotgun perk combo for that exotic....finally!!!!
this is crazy
sadly cant get it bc i dont have TFS
but im atm gladly farming the riiswalker, i also recently noticed the greatness of discord. Best thing is when you have 2 discord weapons. you just have infinite special
Yeah its pronounced Ded Grandma. I dont care what anyone else says.
you're an illiterate then..
I'm stealing this!🤣
Lol... When this dropped, I knew it was a a special perk combo, BUT its sometimes can be bugged where I'm using up ammo even though discord is active.
Discord Tricorn looks like it could be super dope with combination blow, added to my list to look out for! Edit, or maybe Surrounded
Wow I want one! Thank you for sharing!
I’ve got this dead grandma but I’ve yet to use it. I didn’t realize discord created ammo out of thin air!
I saw this as well and I actually got this exact perk combo to drop! Going to be using it on my no backup plans titan.
What about "A Sudden Death" with discord and destabilizing rounds? Can be good for void hunter i think
Cool! I kept several roles and I had a Discord/Chain!
I also have a juicy Rifled/corkscrew assault mag, threat detector, Voltshot with a range MW to try out😎
Another great video Maven
Ive got discord on a succession sniper rifle and i freaking love it. If i could pair it with this that would be so dope. Double infinite special.
Mine has Eddy Current and Chain Reaction, really solid shotgun
i love this shotgun w/ discord chain reaction. i wonder how insane this would've been if they didn't nerf chain reaction
😮Got it discord an golden tricorn with wildcard 56 range. I'm wondering if discord will work in pvp hmm
I just got one of these tonight after seeing your video. Very lucky 😂
I've gotten several of these and equipped them on my Hunter and Titan. Didn't know about this perk combo tho I'm prob gonna haveta Deepsight them now 😅
Well damn i got this exact roll sitting in my inventory lol
1 second is a lot in combat! I've noticed that throwing a diamond lance while airborne allows you to hover in midair for about a full second... Which is just enough time to fire a gl or rocket effectively.
Always love your breakdowns. Man I wish I could play as good as you. I am 63 years old and not as quick as you. I get my ass kicked more than I like, but your builds and videos keep me going. Thanks Maven ❤
very insightful! Thanks alot
World drops should be added to lost sectors the season they release (just like the change with ritual playlist weapons now being focusable immediately upon release)
Can anyone confirm whether last seasons world drops are now in the lost sector rotation (I.e. Crux Termination). Can’t find info anywhere.
That’s so cool! Eddy Current + Volt Shot seems fun as well, but obviously the gameplay isn’t as smooth as yours
Discord is fun. It’s like back when we had old heavy handed giving infinite special ammo. Rip old mods, lol. It’s also probably also strong to run discord voltshot, you may just need to start with one round in the mag to reload it with discord.
Literally got this roll on my first drop the day final shape released
I just paired this exact weapon with No Backup Plan on Titan...kinda funny
This was my first drop in final shape. But the bow from the raid with dragon fly volt just kills every arc weapon imo.
Not me using this exact roll to infuse another gun because I didn't realize discord refunded 😭 lol. I did keep my Threat/Volt roll, though!
You better try out the heavy sword with incandescent and chain reaction :)
finally someone talking about this gem 🙏🏻♥️
Thinking about a discord voltshot to pair with the new hunter chest
Aint no way... I have been hunting for this roll since the expansion launched. I have gotten stats for all, surplus, and threat + chain but discord was not showing up. While this video was playing in the background I decided to turn in my hawthorn engrams. Out of 45 engrams I got 1 roll... That roll is corckscrew, appended, discord, chain, range mw.
@@DFH02 RIP
@@DFH02I got assault mag on mine 😂
She's going crazy with that shotgun
My first drop: Rifled, tactical, Discord, Chain, Range MW...
I got threat detector + chan reaction.
Gambit never be the same again😢
I got this role today. Fun gun to use.
I JUST GOT DISCORD CHAIN REACTION 5 minutes ago lets goooooo
i got the exact same roll, the video you made a few weeks ago gold me to keep an eye out for it!! definitely amazing
What were the radiant dance machines for
Because it works great with Discord shotguns
Got discord and chain , but i enjoying threat detector with volt shot much much more.
I got this exact roll to drop a day before i heard you mention it. This thing made Dual Destiny hilariously easy 😂
Great video
I have mine with threat detector and chain reaction love it only have gotten two to drop with chain reaction play the game people you’ll get it
I went check my vault in I have this exact roll, lucky me
Same. I blame Maven. I saw the discord and chain reaction and thought for a split second "that seems good" and vaulted it. Thank you for talking up discord so much
I’ve gotten two only it’s amazing
i was so sad that discord volt shot doesnt work at all on this thing.
It doesn’t?
@@slade6959 no it actively stops you from being able to reload. The "refund" from discord doesnt count as a reload.
This is the point in the season everything gets saved and chucked in the vault, while folks sort things out. I was blessed to just find one of these with assault mag in there 🙏
I have discord on sniper.... i love it... dont know if it works in pvp though❤
Its not the first one. The iron banner fusion rifle has the roll but its strand and it has hatchling
Just watched this, went to tower and dropped the roll on second engram lmao. Let’s see what this is about
The fist shotgun to get discord was fortisimo
Thanks for the heads up Destiny mommy
I have one with voltshot but haven’t gotten one with chain reaction to drop :(
gl
@@MavenPhoenix thanks!
I've had a few of these, thanks to your other video, I kept the voltshot/Eddie version. I need to haul it out and try it again with the getaway artist prismatic build. I've not really been a fan of discord, maybe if I get this roll I will give it a try. Thanks for the video!
Every time I shoot with chain reaction it's somehow proxing amplified. the only facet that I'm running that has any thing to do with it is facet of dominance. 🤔
I believe on prismatic that so long as you get any arc multikills you become amplified.
Prismatic's suite of effects is much looser than the purist elemental subclasses. You can proc effects like amplified simply by running any arc related damage.
Best one I got was chain and threat!
Sure iv had a cpl drop vcia seasona; activity, Breach or whatever it's called, Warlock maine so deleted it :)
Got a volt shot on it other day. Havent tried it yet
is it just me or did I just hear no back up plan?😂
That guy in the walking dead must have had this perk
💀
I run double discord shotgun on void titan with no backup plans and a machine gun
I FUCKING GOT IT!!!!! LETS GOOOOOOO
This is a world drop, but if you get one with a good roll it's needs locking, it's such a good special weapon it's worthy of upgrading, good luck hunting guardians
I got this roll a day or two after TFS dropped and deleted it. Then I saw your video and thought, "well, damn." I got it again this week, though. *Phew.*
I dont like perks like discord. I dont want to swap weapons to use other weapons. Im happy w my threat detector. Special ammo isnt so hard to get that i feel like i need discord. Fun weapon but i feel like a shotgun is what i need then im just ganna use conditional finality.
i had this roll and i dismantled it, i almost never play with shoty