When there is freedom | J. Krishnamurti
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When there is freedom | J. Krishnamurti
Extract from the fourth discussion in Ojai, 1982.
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Krishnamurti gave us the good gift that keeps on giving us stability and a smile especially in the disintegration of today's reality.
"There is the book of humanity in me"What a great statement by Krishnamurti ji. Only krishnamurti ji is capable of making such an incredible statement The more I think about it,the more I feel it, the more my open eyes are being opened.
I love it, all my life i thought there was a way to live a life, i followed other people's words expecting everything to work out. Nothing worked out the only thing keeps happening was too much comfort and no development. Then i realised everything i seek is already within me, all i have to do is just feel it.
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These videos
Are a gift
"There is attention there is no time "❤mind burst gratitude sir 🙇
The peace he displays and has attained is simply remarkable!
When you are walking on the path of life created by yourself ~
Guruuuuuu
Perfect 🔥.
Damn...when he asks if there is effort in attention I was confused for a while but I can see it.
Have you ever thought about it?
So does the attention need any effort or is it the right opposite? Like when you drop everything and you just stop thinking about the task and stuff around then the attention comes? 😊
And thinking about this I realized there's the mind which does stuff and then there's ME and I interfere with it.
So I realized the structure, I took apart "me" from the mind. Not bad what do you think guys? 😅 I'm kind of happy.
So is the attention the act of will, the act of ME, my will? 😊
No, it would it happen no matter who I was man. We all have it.
Take me for example, I am conditioned to have a high sensitivity to safety, like I'm aware of my surroundings and people's intentions a lot, I have a decent reflexes etc so this kind of attention is boosted by ME. We all have it, but I TRAINED this aspect (or may have a specific talent for perceiving this or that) therefore it's better in THIS ONE. 😅
But other kinds of attention - when attention is payed to some other stuff - I may not have at all... like being able to pay a good attention to a text, attention towards the social stuff, my relationships etc., these are worsen by ME because I'm not made or trained to perceive it, these my qualitites are not good, meaning I have to try hard, I gotta make a lot of effort to be even capable of some attention towards these things.... But you can, others can pay attention to it... why?
I can effortlessy pay attention to a stuff I'm intereted in, probably things I like and I'm responsible for (and looking after them) but I'm not capable to pay attention to any other things, I gotta try hard to make my mind listen to them. Hmmm... now what.
So the attention happens effortlessly, automatically to some extent (zero included) and sometines you gotta drop everything, relax and let loose for it to happen and sometines you gotta put your effort into it, depending what you are made of and what you have been through. 🤷🤷
I can't get any further.
I gotta come back to it when I realize what is my conditioning, what are my talents and what have I inherited and what's written in the body and then what is the doing of the mind. This is going to be long evening for me. 😅
Anyway... It's better to step aside sometimes and let the brain do its work am I right? 😊
Someone in the comments says inteligence... but German Shepherd has much lower intelligence than me and can pay attention of such kind I can only dream about. He's better at paying attention than me, no doubt.m, day and night, focused, listening, looking around, learning. Can't be intelligence.
Being one with ones intelligence, riding it properly..? That's more like it.
Attention...... without a movement of thought. For me it comes and goes.... not that I want it to continue all the time, because that will be a trap!
Can we have subtitles on audio conference upload please
Is that a young Rupert Sheldrake?
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2:50 - 3:03 CRUCIAL question and ANSWER !!! If one should remember anything from that conversation ...THAT IS IT !!! Then ..... do it!!
I think understanding is the doing.... They are not separated by time. No?
@@atrayeeroy5791 Understanding happens on the level of the mind/known/memory/concepts/time. Understanding will not dissolve the fear in you. YOUR ATTENTION/AWARNESS will. SEEING, becoming AWARE of the process of your own mind creating fear in you IN THE NOW, will free you from it. It will not free you from usually accumulated, suppressed, and hidden fear. That needs to come up and be recognized to be dissolved. You may have an understanding that such energy is trapped in your body but without RECOGNIZING it WITHIN (feeling it), nothing will happen. You need to watch yourself all the time in order to become aware of it when it shows itself.
So, understanding is not DOING !!! What I meant by writing this sentence "Then ..... do it!!" was to simply PUT IT IN PRACTICE. Most people are not interested, as Jiddu explained (4:40 - 5:09).
It is the holyspirit,that brings attention
If attention is not a product of thought then what brings about this attention?
Intelligence.. When one knows the emptiness of things, the attention is then focused in The Truth.. 😊
does there need to be a cause? perhaps it's just a "presence" or a flow of consciousness/awareness...?
Why is this question important to you? It is mind created! FIND OUT THE ANSWER for yourself! Just watch your thoughts/feelings without judging anything!!. THAT IS IT !!! That simple. If you do it, you are in the state you want to be in.
Care
Not thinking brings attention