Glad I live in Scotland where when a mass shooting at a school happened in Dunblane in 1996 the country said "Nope, no more handguns" and there hasn't been a shooting since. Went through school not having to worry about being shot.
There was the Cumbria shooting, but yeah. Shooting is rare. We did have a drive buy archery shooting near where I live. Which is humour to picture in your mind.
From a person who lives in a country that does not allow guns, the speech from this president fills me with great despair. I cannot ever imagine going to school with the fear it might turn into warfare. I don’t understand. Why is this normal?
The idea that money is an expression of free speech is fundamentally flawed, because money is not equally distributed. Because our government does not provide funds for its own continuance, candidates run on private pools instead of public (tracked) assets. So, the money of an organaztion becomes worth votes in the very real sense of advertising and spin control, boost your message and garble your oppositions. Profit, currently has political capitol, which is being exchanged for lives. Greed Over People; is it any wonder that the party that hates government, absolutely sucks at running it?
european countries, australia and many other country have controlled their guns and everybody feels safe in public and schools. why can’t america do this? because of some childish people who want to play with guns because it’s fun like a baby or to compensate something in their pants? grow up USA ...
Trump: I think the Black Plague would have stopped very fast if every person had a pet rat back then. Rats won't attack people with a rat. I got this, I hear you
try thinking about it like this man. you're off your rocker you want to do damage and lots of it quickly. do you go into the place where not a single person is armed or do you go into a gun store and start shooting? banning these guns ain't gonna help. look how banning drugs worked. look how banning booze worked. look at how gun control in Chicago worked out.
The teacher would be more likely to run after someone with an automatic rifle because the teacher cares about the safety of his/her students. The police deputy only cares about his own safety.
You´re deluded, Zokizzy Foshizzy. A teacher who cares about their students will help them to get out of there as fast as possible instead of leaving them alone to look after a shooter. Also trying to confront an attacker with an assault rifle while you´re only having a pistol isn´t brave, it´s suicidal.
I always think "He can't possibly say anything more stupid than the last thing" and every time he proves me wrong...good god get this guy out of gov already..
IKR? I keep thinking maybe it's me, maybe I'm just hearing him getting stupider in my head, but if anything I'm becoming more and more jaded; perhaps unironically, he keeps trumping himself when (and only when) it comes to saying dumb shit.
Max Maxwell - absolutely correct! Us Aussies sold our guns back to the government, and since that national gun ban in the 90's *we haven't had a single gun massacre since* . You can still own a gun by getting a license and use it to hunting or go to a shooting range, but the whole country is collectively *safer because of the ban* . Everyone feels safe from gun violence. The crazy nutjob at your child's school can't kill other kids or yours. Kids aren't afraid to go to school here! We don't need to arm our teachers (what a moronic idea) and we don't need security guards in schools.
1. Shouldn't teachers concentrate on teaching instead training in modern warfare ? 2. If my teacher had a gun when I was at school, I think I would've been dead ....
Sorry i lived in three countries as I grew up, and not a single one of them had security let alone security that was armed. One of the countries was under civil war. If you must have such security let a professional do it as opposed to a teacher. We expect teachers to do a hundred and one things, and now these morons(such as the one that replied above) expect them to protect the children from s crazed gun man.
Yeah if we are ever stuck down a hole your answer would be "let's dig our selves out". We need more guns at school than less guns ? Wtf ? Schools around the world operate with less guns. America really needs to look at the rest of the world and try and figure out how everyone else is managing and they can't.
Oh, sorry, I forgot you need people to carefully explain every part of a joke to you. Btw: We don't want to eliminate guns, we want to have some actual goddamn control over what happens with them. We aren't the ones trying to give people assault weapons. You know, those things with no real purpose other than taking down multiple people at a given time. Something that shouldn't be accessible to civilians.
I am a *USMC* OEF\OIF\OND decorate combat vet. The idea of arming more people to deter shooting, is nothing short of idiotic. I have, personally, had "my teams" bullets fly right by my head. I have seen our own motor rounds head in "our" direction! We were highly trained, highly organized, and in constant communications with each-other...and *wearing* *identical* *uniforms to boot!!!!* Friendly fire is still one of the most dangerous & deadly realities of combat.
Yeah, my school had a problem with the teachers going out to smoke pot with the jocks during lunch break... I simply cannot picture him taking good care of his firearm.
I see you didn't hear what trumpty dumpty said.Concealed but everyone will know they have them. And what do you think how much time will it take to know which teacher has a concealed gun? A week, a month?
Yeah. People should stop willfully being pussies. Criminals have always existed. There is a reason they enter gun free zones before they enter s house like mine. People offended by to kill a mockingbird. People can’t even handle words. Time for people to become stronger and more independent. Not more easy to rob and kill.
aschu234 No one is staying away from your house because of your Manly Man Arsenal. Mass shootings require, you know, a mass of people. People shoot up schools they have a personal and psychological connection to. And remember the shooting rampage at that gun free zone Mt. Hood?
I do remember that shooting yes. You remember how 189 people were killed in nice France by a truck? Or the 1000s dead by hijacking a plane with box cutters. Very complex issue we are dealing with. Turning everyone into easier targets is not the answer.
Historically inefficient. Both Columbine & MSD had armed trained officers outside the building & did nothing refusing to go in. Not to mention their handguns would have been useless against AR 15s. What makes you think your culinary arts teacher would know how to handle it?
It's also psychological. if you watch the video from the latest school shooting the sound is enough to scare most. But it really boils down to the fact that the president really cares more about the NRA than the kids.
A 9m calibre handgun, commonly used by police officers & gun owners fire 15 or at most 20 bullets in one minute. AR 15s fire 150 and up to 200 bullets in one minute.
teachers are so liberal the would give the gun to the class bullie cause they want to hide behind the desk the teachers would put their life before the students and that is fuckin sad
@T Mox Why is the w in what lower case when you start a sentence you use an upper case letter why point out my spelling instead of raising an argument about my comment get fucked
@@nilwarhtims1709 "Why is the w in what lower case? When you start a sentence you use an upper case letter. Why point out my spelling instead of raising an argument about my comment? Get fucked." - Guy who notices w not being upper case but has no sense of grammar... I fixed it for you though
@Haaa aakk how exactly is having more guns a solution? Eliminating all civilian guns is the solution. Your constitution was written a long time ago with different circumstances prevailing then. There's no civil war today, UK isn't colonizing you and no one is invading your streets.
The teacher at my school that talks the most about being exmilitary is extremely sexist and racist and would definitely flash a concealed weapon to "jokingly" threaten kids he didn't like. But it's no big deal
Because he loves air conditioning and is white? Sure that checks as sexist and just being white classifies you as a racist bigot. Have you beaten your white neighbor this week?
@@arcturus4762 He was talking about a specific person being a bit unhinged. You sound a little off yourself (unless you=a bot?) Air conditioning, whiteness, etc. have nothing to do with what this person was talking about. Very bizarre comment.
Wouldn't want to have a gun, either. It's funny the GOP puts down teachers as babysitters who only deserve min. wages. So now they gotta be Dirty Harry?
A friend of mine asked if I thought teachers should carry guns. I said, "Sure -- right after they graduate from the police academy." Teachers are not policemen and policemen are not teachers. If so, then schools would become prisons.
I don’t like the arm teachers thing because teachers are just as likely to shoot up a school as students and could you imagine how easy it would be for a kid to grab it?
@@vecsen7794 yeah, after he said he was gonna give teachers guns and then people were giving him hate for that, then he eventually, just out of the blue, says he didn't say he was give any teacher guns, that he was gonna give experienced teachers guns. Any time something bad is said about him, he will either call it fake news, say it didn't happen, or say it in a different way that will make him look less bad.
As an European, I seriously do not get your logic. I mean, come on, every other civilised country manages to get some kind of gun control in place. Even your beloved Norwegians. It's not that complicated. Just as you say: guns should only be in the hands of the best - and they have to prove that they are, indeed, capable of owning something potentially deadly. Also, the willingness to just kill another human being, attacker or not, is startling. The whole affair just leaves me in a mixture of terrified awe, speechlessness and anger.
This is unfortunately America. As a large amount of the population wants to have more gun control laws for years on end, yet the nra, and political figures along with what looks like a lot of far right republicans say 'no more guns.' While many of us can have common sense, the rest are idiots and reflect poorly on us.
*"Someone hell bent on killing, is going to find a way to do it."* Yup, so we should do absolutely nothing to make it more difficult for them... *"Arm the kids?"* Just a day or two ago, the NRA fought against the idea of raising the minimum age to purchase rifles. Interestingly, there isn't even a minimum age requirement for joining the NRA, and they even have a separate class of membership for those 20 or younger. So, you may have meant it as a joke, but it's not as implausible as we'd like to think.
'Yup, so we should do absolutely nothing to make it more difficult for them...' - teachers and students used to carry guns to the school in America in 1950's, 60's, 70's and so on.....no mass shooting phenomenon was observed back in those times which indicates that the problem is societal and not attributable to guns. Here's an interesting graph - thesocietypages.org/feminist/files/2015/12/Mass-Shootings-Stanford-1.png
Also, trucks, cars, knives, acid, chemicals etc have been used in Europe by Islamic terrorists in place of guns so banning guns seems to be futile to which you could claim that society needs trucks, cars, knives and acids so we can't ban them unlike guns BUT people in rural and sub-urban regions where the 911 response times are abysmal do need guns to protect themselves for house intruders, robbers etc so guns are needed by society as well.
Trigger Town I honestly hate people like you, America clearly has a mass shooting problem but every time there is a shooting, people like try to deflect by using this argument and it’s stupid
Avicaris what do you suggest, if some one can legally buy a weapon they should be able to. What legislation has proven to be effective ? I would say banning or restrictions have not helped , look at chicago
Here's why giving teachers guns is a bad idea: My 9th grade German teacher was arrested for abusing his wife, my middle school gym coach was fired for walking in to the girls locker room while they were changing, my middle school band teacher was arrested for laundering money from the school system, and my junior year sociology teacher committed suicide. Dont get me wrong for every one of those teachers, i had good teachers who genuinely inspired me to learn. But teachers are human beings like the rest of us and they're just as susceptible to making mistakes.
It's almost comically sad that we are having to explain this. Asking why you shouldn't arm teachers used to be as dumb as asking why you shouldn't fight fire with bazookas, and yet here we are... 'Murica. PS. @Inayet Hadi, that was priceless. $5 says that if they do arm teachers and people are dead before 1st period is over that is exactly the rationale they're gonna use.
Pyrosaurus_Rexx ohh god, then there’s gonna be the English teacher whose a child molester threatening the kid and tells him he’ll kill him his family and friends with the gun if he tattles.
Actually, the NRA, said not only would the donate the guns, but also would train any teacher that would be willing to carry. You people don't want to protect children. You just want to ban guns. Take 1 right away, you take ALL rights away. What rights are you willing to give up.
That's not how it works. Would you rather have no security? No means of protection for the students? Instead you have a gun-free zone that a deranged killer sees as a shooting range. If we had more security these would be less common. and would prevent a lot of tragedies.
And what can stop a bad guy GETTING the gun? Not having the ability to walk into a shop and BUYING it right off the wall. It's not a difficult thing to grasp. And neither are guns, clearly.
Why Marco Rubio should be "commended" for showing up? He's a public servant. Public servants serve the people, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Its Marco and others job description, aka RESPONSIBILITY, neither privilege nor self-interest. Rubio and the likes disgust me.
To be fair, how often to Republicans actually make the effort to pretend they're doing their jobs? Rubio set the bar high enough you no longer need to dig a ditch to find it, you'll trip over it instead.
Sorry I do not understand about the part he said about banning all semi automatic rifles and everyone cheered. Was he saying something sensible and everyone cheered? Or he said something insensible and guns supporters cheered? What I thought was the latter.
True. It's a very limited commendation based on very low expectations. Ideally, you'd want public servants to serve and shut up. Realistically, Rubio showing up was an upturn for him and a lot of his colleagues.
TSK Rubio was trying to argue that a ban doesn't work because people will just buy the guns that aren't banned. Following his own logic however he then accidentally stumbled upon the obvious solution to this problem of banning not just some, but all semi automic rifles. Wich is exactly what most people in the audiance want. Thus they applauded him for countering his own argument by accident.
2009 Fort Hood shooting. 13 dead. Gunman knew people on the base are train soldiers and have guns... Let that sink in for those who think teachers with guns with lot of kids running around can do better.
Heck, you don't have to go back to 2009, there was another one at Fort Hood in 2014, and there's also been a mass shooting at the Navy yard in 2013- 12 dead in that one as well.
James Bond is a fictional secret agent who had to go through all kinds of background checks and restrictive regulations to get his license to kill. Are you okay?
"We need to let people know, if you come into our schools... you're gonna be dead." And it's not like this is the first thing he's said that sounds almost as bad in context as taken out of it...^^;
But America is leaderless as a fact. The citizens are in charge frankly, Area 51 is a good enough reason to start a civil war...or was back in 1776 but in America the citizens are in charge NOT the government. Trump is a civil servant and only does what we ask him to do. Quit your bitching and if you want to actually make a difference create a petition. That simple. But seriously, he is not a leader
R F Yea. Even the ALREADY EXISTING, PROFESSIONAL SECURITY GUARD at that school (a deputy sheriff, mind you) shat his pants, and took cover when that kid went on his rampage. But Trump and the other shitheads at the irresponsible NRA think that some random teacher will do a better job, and precision-snipe the shooter within a mess of panicking students? Good luck, indeed lol. What’s more likely to happen is that various innocent bystanders, mistakenly shot by armed teachers who are way in over their heads will actually ADD to the bodycount! God - it would really help if Americans would travel abroad more often! Then, they would realize that people in all other developed countries on earth think they are complete fucking idiots about their stupid guns and second amendment - and rightfully so! 😂
Has corruption always been legal in your country?... I remember an old Simpsons episode when Lisa caught a congressman getting money from a corrupt businessman, but all of the sudden that's normal... maybe it was always normal
Charlie Sosa It certainly got worse when the moronic, so-called „Supreme“ Court ruled a number of years ago that 1.) „money equals speech“, and that 2.) „corporations are people“. That ruling is also known as „Citizens United“. Ever since then, for instance gun manufacturers, their whore NRA and similar actors are absolutely free to push as many millions if not billions into political campaigns. The politicians receiving this money all know what the deal is: „I got money from xyz - so once I get elected (...due to these campaign „donations“), I have to give these donors back their money‘s worth (usually, they give them back a hundredfold what they „donated“)“. So long as „Citizens United“ stands, America is FUCKED.
I would be seriously concerned if I had a kid, that their teacher whose been putting up with little shits for 30 years would just blow their own brains out all over the chalk board one day and traumatize my kid. Or worse yet, have a mental breakdown and take down little Timmy for screaming for the 50th time that day.
Hah, oh so true. Or maybe I should rather say, I hear you :P I hear these things they do over there and it sounds like someone have decided to roleplay a monty python sketch on a national level.
Paul Burrows Only, it's kinda cute when a toddler does it. I did a lot of babysitting, and I loved listening to those silly meandering stories THEN. But now...I just wanna reach out and SLAP that toddler.
So schools become military confinements? Instead of making the issue more complex. I know make it easier for all. 1) Raise the age to purchase and carry to 21. 2) Ban assault weapons 3) Illegalize bunt to make weapons semi-automatic and automatic guns. 4) Long term goals: reverse supreme court decision that corporations are people and get money out of politics - so this mess and others doesn't happen again.
The Supreme Court wasn't wrong for saying that for-profit organizations can contribute to political campaigns under the First Amendment with the ruling on Citizens United; I may not be a lawyer, but it's hard to argue that they didn't interpret it correctly. I just think that the effects of the ruling are awful.
you have a gun problem in your country. you have to have stricter gun laws for private citizens. striker then what you are suggesting, in a modern western nation only profetional police officers, security personnel, and military personnel should have access to guns. but the reality now that guns are common, arming the teachers is an insane idea, but you do need to hire armed security guards to post at schools all around America. because even with gun control it would take several decards to the number of guns already present in the US to drop. you can't make any legislation that would magically get rid of all the guns you have in your county. gun free zones need to be protected by professionals with guns until the threat of gun violence is removed. that's just logic.
"Assault weapon" is a bit of a nebulous term. More stringent regulations of barrel length, calibre, and magazine capacity, in conjunction with a firearms license programme, would likely be very effective. Oh, yeah, and ban bump stocks, cause those have no sporting purpose.
We need some common sense gun laws. Background checks and psychological watch lists for people with homicidal ideation. Not restricting magazine capacity (it only takes one round to kill). If people want conceal/carry, make tactical training available so they can do it properly. If you have to arm teachers, give them tazers, not firearms.
Sun Tzu: "For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill."
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". Which was OK in 1791 when the US did not have a standing army and people needed to defend themselves from external threats, native Americans and indeed each other. We don't live in 1791 anymore. Its also interesting that people who believe that the 2nd Amendment is sacred text but think the First Amendment can be ignored with impunity when people dare to use free speech to criticise gun owners.
@Giovanni Aguilar: Did the Founding Fathers originally intend ordinary US citizens to bear... cannons? Seriously, your -oversized fake penis- AR15 won't stand chance against a drone.
My dude, that's what a militia was. People used to have a genuine need for militias, especially further from the major cities, because it would take weeks for the government to respond to an attack on the town. That's not a thing anymore, and even when it was, the weapons they had were nowhere near the level of refinement they are now. Also, try to grasp the fact that we're not trying to take all your guns. You don't need a military-grade (semi) automatic rifle, you just don't, I don't care, you _don't._ But, like, nobody's saying you can't go hunting, or keep a pistol for self defense, or whatever. We'd just like to make sure you're not a lunatic before you buy a device specifically designed to kill things you point it at. ...Oh. Is _that_ what you guys have such a problem with?
why would we ban semi automatic rifles? you guys say that it’s just the rifles and that’s it but trust me after the semi automatic rifles are banned, the hand gun murder rate is going to increase and you are going to complain about that and then when you whine about that and ban hand guns, then stabbing as would rise with gun deaths from illegally obtaining firearms. rather then banning guns from law abiding citizens like that one time when the teacher punish the whole class because one dude did something wrong, we should make our police more brave so that they can save lives instead of waiting outside(four cops just stayed outside with guns while this was happening) , make the police more serious about red flags (the florida police got 39 signs before this happened) and make the fbi more serious about these red flags (2 signs they just ignored like the police)
I'm with you @lee Paul, except you have one fact wrong. Hand guns are already the leaders of fire arms deaths. Semi-automatic rifles are only exposed because of the mass shootings. However, most deaths are caused by handguns. So you can see, there is already a precedent for the liberals. Once we get the rifles, we can start blaming handguns (since they are the real killers).
John Marshall What you're talking about happens at 9:33 of the video. He {Marco Rubio} *Clearly* doesn't get it. The *WHOLE POINT* is to ban *ALL* semi automatic weapons. They're *Military* weapons. They have *NO PLACE* in the hands of the public *In ANY country* . They're tools of war. 😧🔫⚰🎯🌏🏤
i honestly would be scared if only teachers with military experience were allowed to have guns because you never know what a person in the military experienced and you never know how they may react in certain situations.
Exactly! You would never know what's going on in that teacher's mind. It would get worse. Trump is trying to take gain out of tragedy by selling more guns. Both Trump and NRA gets profit by doing so.
Well, either he believes that ‘Dangerous Minds’ was a real life documentary or, he wants all schools to become military academies which means more money for the NRA supplying the necessary educational materiel. And I didn’t spell materiel incorrectly.
I got to give the students some serious credit. They have brass balls the size of fucking watermelons for going up to senators and on national TV and not hold a damn thing back. Wish I had classmates like those, back then.
Once had a substitute teacher literally write up every student for nothing. Next day, the real teacher said if we ever all act "like that again" we would all get detention. That substitute was fucking mean and had a short temper too. Would not give her a gun in the classroom.
1. Even if the teachers are armed or not, the teachers will be shot first before the rest of the class gets shot. You don't know which teacher is packing? Shoot them first. Eliminate threat before it becomes a threat. 2. For maximum carnage, the shooter could get classmates while they're unloading from school buses. Which leads to arming school bus drivers. 3. The cycle repeats with different scenarios until pistols, shotguns, assault-style rifles are banned. :/ For the 2nd amendment and gun lovers 4. ''''''' Tyrannical tyrant governmental NWO takes over. """ 5. 2nd Amendment lovers: "I knew it....."
Everything he says is terrifying, he manage to be disgraceful even when describes an history teacher like someone who teaches "how we win wars, okay?". In my country I really don't believe that's an history teacher purpose. His mentality is crazy. He is the real "sicko".
Oliviero Gullotta you're confused. In America, WW2 is heavily fed to us and explained how and why we won via history teachers. It's also tongue and cheek if you can get that
I am not confused, simply I'm not american. I wonder how you're teached about the two nuclear bombs americans used at the end of WW2. But I must say, I'm not surprised, your history is pretty short compared to the other's country and it's strongly characterized by wars. Your whole history in the first place is based on a genocide. Destruction and self-absolution are so interlinked in the american culture...
Oliviero Gullotta, Seems to me you are hispanic. You know where you come from right. It is from spain and for your information is not like spain bought the land. Anyway i wonder if you live in USA though.
What a strange freakin world we now live in. Every day I hear our "president" speak, I find myself re-defining the word "pathetic." If not the absolute worst president ever, he'll certainly go down in history as the worst PERSON to ever hold the job. :-/
He's recently been ranked by experts as the least presidential president, ever. Out of a scale of 100, he got a 12. Guess what place Obama came? 8th, out of 45. That's gonna sting when Trump eventually learns, but he's in a safe space. He can't hear bad things that aren't from CNN or NBC.
And we can't say it enough times, the worst president ever and definitely the most evil human being on the planet, no exceptions. Even Putin loves him for that reason.
Why aren't they considering that MAYBE, just MAYBE The mass shooter is better and faster at firing? I don't know. Teachers are there for the kids, not to stand by the door every half hour to see if any killer is there. How is this practican in any way? Yes, let's solve the gun problem.... With more guns!
LoiseauLiberte That’s why you arm teachers that want to be armed and most likely have actual training and experience in firearms not the old math teacher
Yes they work beautifully, its called the rest of the world. Its hard to take guns away from gun lovers but it works and society and humanity will be better off. .
Someone please tell me that cheat sheet thing was a joke, it's falling in that uncanny valley between "things he'd be stupid enough to do" and "things that are too stupid to be real"
When I first saw that on Twitter the other day I thought for sure it had been Photoshopped by someone having a lark. But no, evidently Trump really is that fucking stupid.
I don't know if he's suffering from early onset dementia, but what is absolutely clear is that his brain is utterly incapable of empathy. The cheat sheet, to me, seemed like his staffers giving him prompts on how to respond in a way that made him *seem* empathetic. I imagine they intended for him to revise the points before meeting with the kids rather than actually having it in his hands at the time. The man is, after all, a complete moron.
My problem with this solution besides the fact that it is ridiculous, but how long before a crazy angry teacher turns on a student because, let's be honest, our children aren't the easiest to teach nowadays and can push a teacher to the limit.
Brenita Bridges I couldn’t agree more. The idea of teachers being armed is asinine. I’m a Trump supporter, but this is a horrible idea. Unfortunately, I see a lot of finger pointing, with nobody offering a solution that would have prevented this or any other mass shooting.
David Farnell I agree. You would think that with all the supposed intelligence in Washington that we would come up with a solution that would benefit everybody.
Brenita Bridges "let's be honest, our children aren't the easiest to teach nowadays" I hope you aren't a teacher or a mom, or an aunt, or a big sister, etc, etc...
Brenita Bridges Stupidly small numbers is my "stupid point" the number of deaths due to school shootings is stupidly small (roughly the same as botched circumcisions) and I am sure the rate of assault by teachers is going to be even stupidly smaller.
Add guns to school and what people compare to jail, may actually become a jail for minors: both of them have bad food, give the people inside 45 minute outside time, give them an education, superiors monitor them, and there’s a person in charge of everything. Now all we need are individual cells...
Some school in future America, a teacher: „Jamal in the third row reached for his waistband. I feared for my life. Boom Headshot!“ Some court in future America, handling this case: Teacher acquitted.
That's what I was thinking. Does no one remember that one time your teacher lost their shit? It's happened to everyone at least once while they were in school.
I think so too. One of my teachers lost it very often and broke a meter long ruler on the guy sitting next me hitting me in the process. Of course she got fired but imagine she had a gun that day.
I feel sorry... I laughed when US picked Trump as his president.. but nowadays, I really feel bad for US citizens.. even those highschool students sound smarter than the government and senators Please stay safe there...
Oh yes, the horrors of a non-treasonous president who can string an articulate sentence together and not be surrounded by the lowest sorts of scandal 24/7. Get the fuck out, you deflecting lepton. Nobody likes Clinton but she sure as fuck has a lot of marks over Trump.
"he's a four star marine" and i can't help but think Trump assumed it was 4 out of 5 as a rating for how good you are as a military guy, or...whatever.
Fua Consternation he still punked out and more kids died.. he could at least have distracted the shooter... if your child was in there would you be willing to let him/her die?
Fua Consternation The problem with the whole “armed deputy” outside the school is an issue of training and tactics. The single armed officer doesn’t go in because he cannot assume there is only one shooter and that shooter only has guns. If he went in, at best he might succeed...but there’s a greater chance he’d only add one more body to the count and give the shooter more firepower and a radio to eavesdrop on law enforcement. The shooter might also have an IED, maybe with a deadman switch. That means more dead people at a faster rate. The best thing to do is call in the SWAT team, which takes precious minutes to mobilize. An active shooter is a tactical nightmare.
A lot of teachers have said they are not comfortable with a firearm in the classroom. My friend’s dad is Navy and has concerns about teacher/student safety during an active shooter situation where teachers have guns. According to him, law enforcement and SWAT are trained to shoot at anyone with a gun because they have no time to ask the teacher if they are the shooter. Thus there is the potential of more injuries and fatalities
Isabell Dodson Exactly so. I am a teacher. If I am barricaded in my classroom with all my students pointing a gun at the door thinking a shooter is about to come in, amd the police come in instead, assuming that I don't panic and fire at the officer by mistake, the officer will see the gun in my hands and be very likely to fire at me, which means he is shooting in the direction of my kids too. I won't ever carry a gun at work. It would put students in more danger, not less.
People who have never fired a weapon when they are full of Adrenalin and fear think that firearm somehow is going to turn you into John Wayne. I am military and nearly everyone I know pissed themselves and were disoriented the first time they were fired at. This is after a year of work up training. I have been trained on Navy drills and when you are given the go ahead to fire on an adversary with your sidearm, almost everyone unloads the whole magazine to spite having training and being told repeatedly to only maim and disarm the person.
Exactly what Jewish schools are you talking about? Are you talking about the articles about schools in Israel? Please tell me you are not talking about Israel.
Teachers are NOT there to kill people. Asking someone to take a human life, even if they are doing harm, is asking too much of someone whose job it is to teach.
+Shannon Schultz - Okay then the shooter now has free aim until cops show up. You have to adapt to situations. A chance of a teacher taking out an armed shooter is better than waiting for cops.
Shannon Schultz Sure they're " not there to kill or harm " there's nothing wrong with " asking someone " who has the aptitude " not to kill rather protect. I personally really appreciate someone who would do their job and do it well...Our President sat down with quite a few persons and invited the entire country to sit in and have a listen and he talked with them about anything and everything that they needed to express. Here is a follow thru on this horrific... i don't know what to call it, thing, sickness, disease ,illness. We all want you safe at school on the play ground at the park everywhere you are, th-cam.com/video/Jy4mOxQC_0Q/w-d-xo.html You'll have to pardon some of the arrogant and conceited as well as thoughtlessness @ the comment board, but anyway I like hearing from the President himself and the Local and State Officials whom he is talking over these matters with by far more so than listening and getting an opinion from a talk show host / entertainer .
alexdapostman yes, and in a world where these people can’t get a gun, less will be killed. Oh shit, you’re bringing up abortions. Let me tell you that I fully sup- no. I don’t. Fetuses aren’t even a person. Personhood is granted when a fetus is viable and ONLY when a fetus is viable. A person loses his/her/it’s personhood when it loses consciousness and does not regain it. And I’m sorry, quoting a supposedly infallible book filled with contradictions written millennium ago does not support your argument; in fact it makes it much, much weaker
I understand that schools are the current topic, but mass shootings happen at work, at church, in movie theaters, at concerts! Basically any public place is a 'soft zone' to someone who wants to shoot it up. Roughly 30,000 people lose their lives to gun violence every year in this country, yet a deluge of guns w/lax regulation isn't the problem?! What if we were this lax about car safety or drunk driving? Why does anyone need a military grade weapon? And quit talking about mental illness as the culprit when Trump & this congress rolled back regulation to make it harder for people with the condition to buy guns last year. It's easy to see these people's motivation to defend guns, blame everything else including the victims & do nothing, as usual, $$$$$!!
Fern Viking yeah let's think about this. 600,000 people die from compilations of obesity. 30 teens are killed every day texting and driving. 52,000 people die of opioid overdoses every year. I think we have bigger problems. This psychopath could have easily made a bomb and chucked into the room. If someone is set on killing they are going to find a way to do it. Look at drugs they are legal but people still use drugs, people who are of this mindset will find a way. You can't stop them you but you can slow them down, but ultimately they will prevail.
Fern Viking The orange moron is a hypocrite, saying things like "my prayers go to....... ", can anybody picture the orange moron and his illegal wife on their knees, praying. Really? When the orange bitch allows the Russians to launder money through the nra, and he is getting a biiiiiig cut. He claims to be a Business man, you know.
J Dial As far as I can tell Trump is pretty center. Republicans dislike him and dems dislike him. We call Trump a tyrant and then beg him to confiscate all guns. America is fucked, lol.
I wouldn't a country which militarizes its schools a free and safe one. Trump is just basically obeying the whims of the gun manufacturers and lobbyist so they can make a profit.
Interesting choice of words, you think it's okay for private law abiding citizens to conceal carry on CAMPUS. What about at school, elementary school, middle school... Fuck off with your shit about liberals. Make a case without trying to boiling things down to just name calling.
223Drone, yes, NRA put $33 million in Trump's piggy bank during the campaign. That's enough to pay hush money to sexual conquests, ...with a lot left over.
@Matthew Rider Your argument is strawman. No other developed country has armed guards or is considering to militarize your school. Arming teachers and/or veterans and "fortifying schools is pretty much militarization. There is also no evidence to suggest that fortifying schools and arming teachers will be able to stop mass shootings. www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-security-measures-really-stop-school-shootings/ Your country can't pay teachers enough money and supply them with proper teaching equipment yet they have the money to arm them just shows how skewed your countries priorities are. Teachers are suppose to teach their not commandos.
I don't agree with the President wanting a bonus for teachers who carry guns in class. Having been professionally trained I can tell you in a crisis situation for most it’s a 50/50 chance to hit a target just 12 feet away. (that’s why we have automatic rifles). For someone moderately trained what will people think the first time a shot misses its target, oops! No, it will be I can't believe the teacher killed my kid. All those teachers who are great role models now faced with this horrendous burden. I also worry about all those teachers who are not the best role models some of them being bullies…. now lining up to carry guns. What kind of classroom will that be. I thought little Johnny had a gun, I acted in self-defense… I love my guns, but I can’t imagine a gun carrying School environment bringing less fear to our society. I can see it as one that destroys imagination and individuality as it pushes conformity. Think about it, no one fires just one shot in a gunfight. It will be an almost certainty that anyone returning fire will accidentally kill children they are protecting. Unimaginable to bear. Australia had A school shooting, they banned the assault rifles. Since that time the government has had buy backs for anyone who owned them. They have not had a single school shooting since. Schools are not the military, kids are not soldiers. Don’t promote a society that merges the two.
Very good thoughts. Even cops sometimes panic when they start firing with some of their shots going astray, and they are usually highly trained. More weapons will just make a bad situation worse.
And what about other violent incidences at schools, like a fight? I've had to break up fistfights before, luckily I was there when they broke out, so no major injuries, but what if a teacher comes across a kid beating the crap out of another kid, and shoots the kid doing the beating. Now you've just used lethal force on a CHILD who, though harming someone, probably wasn't going to kill, and certainly didn't deserve the death penalty. And if you DON'T use the gun in that situation, you have to try and break up a fight, when you have a weapon on you... there are just way too many things that can go wrong in that scenario (and it's a very likely scenario, I've been a teacher for five years, and have had to break up four fistfights).
If they say: "Guns don't kill, people do" They should also say: "Nuclear weapons don't kill, countries do" and give North Korea as many nukes as they wish! How is it possible that some politicians prefer NRA money above U.S. lives? #actnow
thewanderandhiscomp Precisely. Too dangerous not to carry. Feel naked without something on me. Would never move to a nation that makes me have to be interviewed by Law Enforcement before I can carry. Not only that, but one where I can't have detachable magazines.
Donnie and the NRA have a really strange idea that shooters select their targets based on a checklist. In fact, most shooters attack a school with which they have a connection, often which they are attending or attended in the past. For this reason, the idea that the shooter has no idea which teachers are armed is a non-starter, mainly that the people with that opinion have not yet started learning to think seriously.
Because training OVER STRESSED & UNDER PAID Teacher's with "SWAT Sniper.Skills", and who MUST make split second Life or Death decisions, and to take out a student/perp with a guarantee of Zero collateral damage..(dead innocent kids) who panic, freeze, are confused, or try to help, but get caught in the cross fire??Can "All" schools afford entire indoor and outdoor surveillance? ? Can they afford Civil Lawsuits, for your kid being a victim of collateral damage, miscommunication, poor logistics, human error, or mistaken identity, etc.??If school Districts can't afford Life Saving CPR Devices that can Resuscitate a person & Rich school Districts have several, others either just 1, or None.How can schools afford the gun toting Teacher's being trained in Criminal profiling, handling violent perps on drugs, mentally ill, hostage negotiations or who their goal is Suicide by Cop??Even cops who are trained in firing guns can NOT have perfect Marksmanship & guarantee a 100% center mass hit, for perps who are running, hiding, using people as shields, have body armor on, and who are equipped with High powered automatic rifles that can fire hundreds of bullets in mere seconds, and large caliber handguns, which cause maximum soft tissue damage when they're exiting a victim's body.And unless, these SWAT Trained Teacher's are capable of cloning themselves, how the hell can they reach a perp/student who's not in the same room with you or on the opposite side of the School campus??Instead of training gun toting Teacher's, just hire SUPER Hero's with Super powers, Batman, Superman, Ironman, etc. as Teacher's because it sounds just as STUPID & UNREALISTIC as Trump's gun toting, SWAT Teacher's to help with School Violence as a solution???? Lol..Don't blame, guns, the NRA, or Trump for Schools gun Violence attacks.Blame the Gun toting, specialty trained Teachers...Lol
I can't listen to Trump anymore. Colbert should consider not telling jokes about Trump anymore. It's to painful. I'm a teacher in Holland. No guns here, no problems Well, there are guns, but I have NEVER seen anyone with a gun, I'm nearly 50 years old. I don't know anybody who OWNS a gun. Nobody I know is CONSIDERING buying a gun. The IDEA of me carrying a gun as a teacher is as remote to me as me flying to work on a flying carpet. No guns, no deaths by gun violence. It's very simple, actually.
First off, not a lot of military veterans in teaching. Second, I am very leftist, yet do believe in school security. However, trained security guards, are one thing. Teachers should not be that. My mom is a teacher and she would end up shooting herself in the foot. And I grew up with police and security guards on campus due to gang related violence, and they stopped people from entering the school with guns during gang conflicts, and also used to patrol and protect the school. But not every school can do that. They were friendly and made us feel safe, but it’s sad we are to that point. Security should be enforced, but more importantly the education of mental illness, and emergency plans in place to protect students. There should be more protection in school so kids are safe once they are inside, but NOT armed teachers. Checking students for weapons and enforcing security measures is needed. But, also, education should be just that, educating on mental illness, safety, and also they should talk about things in school to help identify harmful behavior, how to react in those situations, and provide counseling for any one suffering from mental illnesses. Defense needs to happen, but not in the form of teachers forming a militia. These things will happen and it is awful, but we need to protect the students, keep harmful adults and others off of campus, and help but defensive and “offensive” preventative mental health support systems in place to help prevent the downward spiral of hurting students and maybe even teachers. This is sad that his response to everything is “shoot em”. These dads need to start thinking about what is best for their grandkids, and how they can prevent this type of thing happening in the future.
“But we’re Americans! We don’t stop because we’re wrong! We just keep doing the wrong thing until it turns out right!” - Ed Wuncler from ‘The Boondocks’
Scene N. Herd Let's ASSUME he encountered the shooter.. a hand gun VS an AR15.. the shooter was in a HALLWAY where students were there... if you are in his shoes, would you shoot right away??? what if innocent kids get shot instead.. will the LAW protect him?? think about that! YES it was a MISTAKE, it was his JOB and he should be ashamed of what he failed to do..and he lost his job and i would also NOT argue if he would be punished because of it or even convicted from it tbh... but can you blame him if you are in his shoes??? an AR15 VS a hand gun??? mmmmmm.
Teachers are teachers. They’re not meant to be bodyguards and it’s really unfair to put that intense of a responsibility on them (protecting our kids lives from a shooter). School are already grossly underfunded and classes are overcrowded, I’d rather my money go for better equipment, books, things that will help my children learn, so that teachers and students can do the job they’re suppose to do. And the idea of having retired military or police officers to be your teacher so they’re already trained ... does it matter at all if they’re even good at teaching? This whole this puts too much on our teachers and also undermines how hard it is to be a teacher. It’s not a job anyone can do or a job anyone should just be able to do. Trumps suggestions are absolutely ludicrous and Marco Rubio’s “justification” is pathetic. There’s no reason civilians should have assault rifles and putting more guns in schools to deter someone from shooting it up ... it’s so unbelievably ridiculous how far this argument has gone when people are still dying. These are kids going to school and should be worried about homework, friendships, relationships, just being kids and teachers should be planning lessons, helping students, just being teachers.
Having a firearm just acts as an added security measure if worse comes to worse. There's no doubt that schools are a huge target to shooters because of the fact that its a "gun-free zone". If we up the security a bit, these would happen a lot less. Weather that's achieved by arming the teachers or having more security. Either way, there's no denying schools don't need some form of security. Shooting the killer is a better option than running away.
why does TH-cam allow people to have names this long? This is kind of ridiculous don't you think? No added responsibility in carrying a gun around kids??? Why don't you ask a police officer if you're right on that point? What monumentally stupid thing to say. As for your gun free zone nonsense, now you are just a liar. There are investigations into every shooting and *not one single investigation has found that the target was chosen because it was a "gun free zone" NOT EVEN ONE!* There's not even any evidence and you have the gall to say there's "no doubt"? LIAR. The VAST majority of mass shootings do not even occur in gun free zones!!
First of all, no need to get all worked up about it. I'm just stating my viewpoints. I'm not saying its a perfect solution either, I'd much rather have trained security personnel carrying firearms. But its not the worst idea in the world. It could potentially save a lot of lives.
why does TH-cam allow people to have names this long? This is kind of ridiculous don't you think? Of course there is added responsibility to having a fire arm; guns can kill people. Every profession who carry weapons on them are professions where there’s a high potential of being attacked or killed (like police officers). And those are professions you go in knowing that that’s a big possibility and I have so much respect for them doing a job where they might not be coming home. Teachers shouldn’t be on that list. Many go into teaching with a love and passion to teach and impact young lives, not have their lives on the line to be able to teach. I don’t think those who shoot up schools are of the sound mind to think of which one will be the easiest because clubs, movie theaters, restaurants, concerts, etc, have been targets. It’s wherever that person has directed their anger or what ever drives them to commit these heinous acts. And like I said in my first comment, teachers and schools are so underfunded already, where is the money going to come from to train and then arm them? They spend so much of their own money on supplies to be able to create and go through with lessons to teach our children but sure, let’s throw whatever money they could be using towards better textbooks, supplies, etc, and put it towards arming them 🤨.
Didn't get you there brother, rest of the world is enslaved by someone? People go to all the developed countries from lesser developed ones, not just the USA.
W Chandra This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future! - Adolf Hitler, 1935
W Chandra This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future! - Adolf Hitler, 1935 Study History, and you’ll find your answers
they're afraid of minorities. Watch bowing for Columbine. It shows how the mad rush for guns started when slaves were freed. Thats also why mass immigration was used to get more people from Europe. Post slavery the Black population outnumbered the white population. Ever notice how when police shoot a black person its always because they thought the black man was holding a gun, which is often times in of itself was not illegal, just like Philando Castille who told the cop he had a gun and a license and was still murdered. The NRA never stands up for Black people's gun rights. Only white people. Black people get charged with minor crimes all the time as a pretext for taking away their gun rights and voting rights.
Here, I'd hope they had automatic weapons and the full permission to kill. There's enough civillian shooters defended by the Liberals to have them freely roaming La Victoria
why should they protect themselves of a gun shooting while other teachers in other countries don't have that problem in the first place, also, "protect themselves" ? by going on a head to head western style facing the shooter with an assault rifle, when even the police officer who got to the school first didnt even go into it ?
Mahrez Mus the other country argument does not and probably never will work in America. Gun control? We've tried it. Several times. Maybe you don't remember the assault weapons ban we already had during Clinton. It didn't stop gun violence in any way. Or maybe look at California, Illinois, or New York. All these "common sense" gun measures are in place there and together they have the most gun violence in the country. So what's your suggestion? We let the teachers and by proxy the children be helpless? Or do you give them a fighting chance? You don't want more children to die but you refuse to admit that gun free zones, common sense gun safety, or any of that shit doesn't work. So what are our options? Just let it keep happening?
Donald Trump's logic: Shark attacks are at a record high... Australia: let's put out some nets to keep them out... NRA: Let's get you a shark... to protect you from other sharks 😉
M. Rodrigo Lemus inacurrate analogy, its more like saying bad guys get guns some how .. Better arm the people without guns so they can do something atleast
I have absolutely no clue how this could go well. If this actually becomes a thing, I am certain that the already skyrocketing rate of mass shootings in America will increase even further.
And those reasons are? And please, please don't say mental illness because that's really not a plausible reason as racism and supremism aren't mental illnesses
Maheep Singh metal illness is just one issue that needs to be looked at. The media inciting and dividing the public with their propaganda is another, the break down of the family, low socioeconomic areas and crime, drug use, especially psychiatric drugs and other issues all need to be addressed. Like I said, just focusing on gun control is height of stupidity. Sadly, the morons who love these late-night shows, who just try to sell you the leftist media talking points in a dumbed-down way, dance to their tune. Gun control has a place, but it is not a solution to the problems within society that produce these monsters like Cruz.
emcats84 I agree that it's a societal and capitalistic problem, but I honestly don't agree with any other point you just said there. Please note that I am in fact but American and hence haven't experienced this first hand, but I've seen all those points before and I've seen them be refuted multiple times with convincing enough evidence. I am sorry but I do not have any links to said evidence right now, and as I'm typing this on a phone right now I can't go about locating it again easily either. So basically my whole argument could be disregarded anyway, but still, this is what I think
Incorrect. Real people have empathy and actually give a shit about whether their leader is intelligent. Those who still support trump and his utterly ridiculous “solutions” don’t care about anybody but themselves and their rights to own guns in exchange for dead kids. Fuck their debates based on their rights. Trump has disgraced the office, this country, and its citizens.
Well, and now Russia, purportedly. By the way, it was by three million votes, primarily because a blue state like California contains roughly 70x the population than Wyoming, but less than 20x the electoral votes.
Alain Archambault There has been 1600 mass shootings since Columbine. As one Australian politician said 'there's something really rotten in the power structure in the US'
Because whats happening is continuing moral decay of our families as generation after generation of undisciplined kids grow up to be even worse parents. Allowing unlimited access to internet and uncontrolled cell phone usage to everything someone can imagine. No discipline, no morals, no character, no control and no family. Self control and decency is destroyed by liberal action and inaction. Who wants to be inconvenienced by disciplining the children? that would take time away from all the fun immoral stuff.
@greg miller You do have some merit in your observation. It's like comparing Game of Thrones and Andy Griffith. You have the young girl assassin verses the gosh, golly, gee wiz crowd. As a young boy I remember local stores being closed on the sabbath. There is something to be said for sociological traditions that brings communities into lock step when it comes to indoctrinating moral fibre. On the other hand, sometimes ignorance doesn't grant bliss. Then again, people now spout all sorts of crazy conspiracy theories all over the internet. Like Patton was assassinated by Eisenhower or those contrails are actually chemtrails used in "geo engineering", and those flat earthers. Used to be that we only had a few radio and TV stations broadcasting, and our local newspapers. Crazy ideas didn't get much chance to circulate. Still the underlying problem is anxiety, brought by the hidden tax called inflation. This plus those nutty conspiracies are combining into a dangerous mix.
Piriathy All too right. Had a guy argue with me saying it's perfectly normal for a single woman to own an AR15. The mentality behind that is astounding. As I recall the attack at Sandy Hook, it was the teachers own weapon that was turned against the school. They're just too many weapons lying around. Just get rid of them. Hunters can have their bolt action rifles, and double barrelled shotgun would suffice for home protection if semi automatics were removed from the landscape. Semi automatics aren't about accuracy, they're about volume of fire. Crowded situations wouldn't come under fire as much if one slows down the rate of fire. There's no real point to semi automatic assault weapons except for mass murder.
Yea ok if someone broke in your apartment and you need to defend yourself- you don’t need a freakin assault military grade gun that shoots 800 rounds a minute-- use a baseball bat or pepper spray, or a taser or air gun and call the cops. This advanced weaponry just isn’t necessary when it comes to civil defense
@@crimsonjedi what I think he means is, you should be able to have guns, like handguns, rifles, and shotguns. But i dont think you would need a big ass gun that shoots like 800 rounds
@@anarch1.c I agree that we should not have fully automatic weapons for public use even though our constitution says we should have the same grade weaponry as the military in case of government tyranny. But most semi automatic rifles have a clip of about 30 rounds which I don't think is to much. Some hanguns can hold around 20-25 bullets so not much of a difference. If we had a ban on semi auto rifles today it just wouldn't work the way people want it to. Americans that follow the law would probably give up there guns but not criminals or just ones that don't want to do it. This would just cause less law biding and good citizens to have guns and more bad guys to have guns. Very very risky if you ask me.
If someone invades your home with a gun, and you face them with a baseball bat, who would win that, and are you gonna to wait for the police to arrive giving the criminal time to find and kill you
I want to laugh. I want to laugh so bad.... But the USA so far had proven me that no matter how stupid an idea may sound, you guys might just go through with it. So, I just can't, for the life of me, take "arming teachers" as a joke. You are going to do it, aren't you? I pray that this one fucking time, you can stop that from actually happening. This one time.
Careful what you laugh at when we have the equivalent of a childish Joker with spray tan makeup in office. Regardless where you live it might get nuked. He sent nuclear subs to Australia instead of N. Korea. Never underestimate the power of stupidity, that's the lesson we've learned anyway.
Next you can call me a bigot or something, both great ways to strike out when you have no actual argument to make. If the worst thing I do in my life before I die is make a grammatical mistake I'll die a happy man.
"You come into our schools; you're going to be dead"
How every college student feels on finals week.
TheWe1c0meMatt Ha ha ha! Good one!
Glad I live in Scotland where when a mass shooting at a school happened in Dunblane in 1996 the country said "Nope, no more handguns" and there hasn't been a shooting since. Went through school not having to worry about being shot.
There was the Cumbria shooting, but yeah. Shooting is rare. We did have a drive buy archery shooting near where I live.
Which is humour to picture in your mind.
Drive by archery? Why can't we have problems like this?
Sydni Ross-Johnston
It started getting silly when we started getting gangsta lute players.
Verily, I declare thee a bitch! ~twang~
darklighter66: Damn luters!
From a person who lives in a country that does not allow guns, the speech from this president fills me with great despair. I cannot ever imagine going to school with the fear it might turn into warfare. I don’t understand. Why is this normal?
Barbara Schupp Idk. It seems mass shootings have become quite the norm in America.
The idea that money is an expression of free speech is fundamentally flawed, because money is not equally distributed. Because our government does not provide funds for its own continuance, candidates run on private pools instead of public (tracked) assets. So, the money of an organaztion becomes worth votes in the very real sense of advertising and spin control, boost your message and garble your oppositions. Profit, currently has political capitol, which is being exchanged for lives. Greed Over People; is it any wonder that the party that hates government, absolutely sucks at running it?
european countries, australia and many other country have controlled their guns and everybody feels safe in public and schools. why can’t america do this?
because of some childish people who want to play with guns because it’s fun like a baby or to compensate something in their pants? grow up USA ...
The Right to Bear Arms and distrust in the Federal Government are a culture in this nation.
Rookie Ranger sure, now the question stands; is this the culture we want our kids to grow up in?
Trump: I think the Black Plague would have stopped very fast if every person had a pet rat back then. Rats won't attack people with a rat. I got this, I hear you
Dumb argument. Guns save 0.5 million to 3 million lives a year.
TheRealBamboosler Actually lab rats save way more lives than that every year when you think about it, so your argument isn't that great too.
Gaby P 18th century Europe Mate
try thinking about it like this man. you're off your rocker you want to do damage and lots of it quickly. do you go into the place where not a single person is armed or do you go into a gun store and start shooting? banning these guns ain't gonna help. look how banning drugs worked. look how banning booze worked. look at how gun control in Chicago worked out.
TheRealBamboosler props to using "0.5 million" instead of "500 thousand" to make it seem like a bigger number. also how about some evidence for that?
Why would a teacher run after someone with an automatic rifle when an armed police deputy was too scared to enter the school in Florida?
The teacher would be more likely to run after someone with an automatic rifle because the teacher cares about the safety of his/her students. The police deputy only cares about his own safety.
Zokizzy Foshizzy // Just two words to deflate that argument: Fort Hood.
You´re deluded, Zokizzy Foshizzy. A teacher who cares about their students will help them to get out of there as fast as possible instead of leaving them alone to look after a shooter. Also trying to confront an attacker with an assault rifle while you´re only having a pistol isn´t brave, it´s suicidal.
NKA23 I know that, but I was comparing a teacher and a cop in the scenario mentioned above.
a teacher care about his students? your school must be nice:o
Teachers should teach. Not learn to shoot.
unless said teacher is teaching how to shoot lol
cpt nordbart unless they want to
Matthew Rider perhaps. But it should not be touted as any kind of solution to school shootings. It isn't.
That this even has to be said, wtf
I always think "He can't possibly say anything more stupid than the last thing" and every time he proves me wrong...good god get this guy out of gov already..
May Well, look at it from a positive point of view. 45 keeps surprising us. 😖🤮
IKR? I keep thinking maybe it's me, maybe I'm just hearing him getting stupider in my head, but if anything I'm becoming more and more jaded; perhaps unironically, he keeps trumping himself when (and only when) it comes to saying dumb shit.
Come visit Australia where the whole country is virtually a gun free zone. You'll be safe wherever you go.
Max Maxwell - absolutely correct!
Us Aussies sold our guns back to the government, and since that national gun ban in the 90's *we haven't had a single gun massacre since* . You can still own a gun by getting a license and use it to hunting or go to a shooting range, but the whole country is collectively *safer because of the ban* . Everyone feels safe from gun violence. The crazy nutjob at your child's school can't kill other kids or yours. Kids aren't afraid to go to school here! We don't need to arm our teachers (what a moronic idea) and we don't need security guards in schools.
Aside from all the fauna, that is :):)
1. Shouldn't teachers concentrate on teaching instead training in modern warfare ?
2. If my teacher had a gun when I was at school, I think I would've been dead ....
basdfgwe why train in Modern Warfare? Halo and Destiny are far better.
So teachers dont have the RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES and their students is what you are saying.
Lizard teachers shouldn't be expected to do so.
Sorry i lived in three countries as I grew up, and not a single one of them had security let alone security that was armed. One of the countries was under civil war. If you must have such security let a professional do it as opposed to a teacher. We expect teachers to do a hundred and one things, and now these morons(such as the one that replied above) expect them to protect the children from s crazed gun man.
Yeah if we are ever stuck down a hole your answer would be "let's dig our selves out". We need more guns at school than less guns ? Wtf ? Schools around the world operate with less guns. America really needs to look at the rest of the world and try and figure out how everyone else is managing and they can't.
If we arm teachers can the librarians at least get silencers?
Nice one Ken AKA Jerry Sienfeld
Perfect!
"Silencers" are actually called "suppresors" but.....
I have no friends :'(
Ken 😂
HA! Thank you Ken, for a laugh against the the oblivion.)
Give Donald Trump the exact same amount of protection a high school student gets and watch that 2nd amendment melt before your eyes.
Ah but you're implying the president has a sense of logic my good man. His solution would be to arm the preschoolers.
+Bento - Wait what? Could you explain that, I do not understand your comment at all.
Bento LMFAO, NOW TRUMP IS GIVING PEOPLE GUNS LIKE CANDY? YOU LIBERALS REALLY HAVE ZERO COGNITIVE OR REASONING ABILITIES! IDIOTS!!!!
Oh, sorry, I forgot you need people to carefully explain every part of a joke to you. Btw: We don't want to eliminate guns, we want to have some actual goddamn control over what happens with them. We aren't the ones trying to give people assault weapons. You know, those things with no real purpose other than taking down multiple people at a given time. Something that shouldn't be accessible to civilians.
*+Noblesse Obligee* Even then the OP's comment makes no sense as no one is suggesting handing guns to teachers like stds just because.
I am a *USMC* OEF\OIF\OND decorate combat vet.
The idea of arming more people to deter shooting, is nothing short of idiotic.
I have, personally, had "my teams" bullets fly right by my head. I have seen our own motor rounds head in "our" direction!
We were highly trained, highly organized, and in constant communications with each-other...and *wearing* *identical* *uniforms to boot!!!!* Friendly fire is still one of the most dangerous & deadly realities of combat.
Troy J Thank you for your service and that much-needed dose of reality.
Thank You.
Thanks for the service, Marine.
Yeah, but concealed carry holders have already stopped mass shootings
Carl Smith you know what's even more effective? No semi automatic guns. Ask Australia
Look at the pure disgust on Colbert's face. I've never seen him quite like this. He was probably holding back a LOT.
Yeah hes a fucking moron now
Haww wkins I agree. Trump is a total fucking moron.
That's because he is actually not that smart
@@xnikog5492 I doubt Trump have brain, let alone smart.
Oh so now students won't even have to go buy the gun they'll just steal it from their teachers. Perfect.
Holy shit, that's a terrifying picture...
xvx4848 much cheaper and very effective. 👍
Yeah, my school had a problem with the teachers going out to smoke pot with the jocks during lunch break... I simply cannot picture him taking good care of his firearm.
I see you didn't hear what trumpty dumpty said.Concealed but everyone will know they have them. And what do you think how much time will it take to know which teacher has a concealed gun? A week, a month?
+Rui G People steal tests etc from teachers all the time. It's not hard to break into a desk.
To kill a mockingbird was banned at schools because it made people 'uncomfortable', but apparently guns are okay.
Yeah. People should stop willfully being pussies. Criminals have always existed. There is a reason they enter gun free zones before they enter s house like mine.
People offended by to kill a mockingbird. People can’t even handle words. Time for people to become stronger and more independent. Not more easy to rob and kill.
aschu234 I'd guess the reason is bc your house doesn't have 1000 kids all neatly contained in rooms.
aschu234 No one is staying away from your house because of your Manly Man Arsenal. Mass shootings require, you know, a mass of people. People shoot up schools they have a personal and psychological connection to. And remember the shooting rampage at that gun free zone Mt. Hood?
I do remember that shooting yes. You remember how 189 people were killed in nice France by a truck? Or the 1000s dead by hijacking a plane with box cutters.
Very complex issue we are dealing with. Turning everyone into easier targets is not the answer.
2018- read that book in English class this year.
Historically inefficient. Both Columbine & MSD had armed trained officers outside the building & did nothing refusing to go in. Not to mention their handguns would have been useless against AR 15s. What makes you think your culinary arts teacher would know how to handle it?
Handguns are not useless against ar-15's. Both will kill you just as dead. In a short range fight one is not that much better than the other.
Factually inaccurate. A Glock 17 will fire more accurately and as rapid fire as an armalite. Do you know anything about weapons?
It's also psychological. if you watch the video from the latest school shooting the sound is enough to scare most.
But it really boils down to the fact that the president really cares more about the NRA than the kids.
A 9m calibre handgun, commonly used by police officers & gun owners fire 15 or at most 20 bullets in one minute. AR 15s fire 150 and up to 200 bullets in one minute.
Trump: "Let's have armed teachers!"
Students: "NO!"
Parents: "NO!"
School principals: "NO!"
Teachers: "NO!"
Trump: "I never said that!"
Lol you made the conversation funny.
😂
teachers are so liberal the would give the gun to the class bullie cause they want to hide behind the desk the teachers would put their life before the students and that is fuckin sad
@T Mox Why is the w in what lower case when you start a sentence you use an upper case letter why point out my spelling instead of raising an argument about my comment get fucked
@@nilwarhtims1709 "Why is the w in what lower case? When you start a sentence you use an upper case letter. Why point out my spelling instead of raising an argument about my comment? Get fucked." - Guy who notices w not being upper case but has no sense of grammar... I fixed it for you though
It's still very surreal that this thing is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
So long as I never have to say President Clinton again, I can live with that.
He's doing great
@Haaa aakk how exactly is having more guns a solution? Eliminating all civilian guns is the solution. Your constitution was written a long time ago with different circumstances prevailing then. There's no civil war today, UK isn't colonizing you and no one is invading your streets.
simplest answer to "how to keep your children safe at school" is : don't live in the US.
Vincent Chopineau or don't have kids
Unfortunately, you’re not wrong.
What flight will you be on? I want to send flowers.
Or, "teach them not to murder their classmates".
any OCDE country is about 20 time safer than the US regarding school shootings. i guess that leave a huge lot of possible destination.
just when you thought it can't be dumber..
love anyway That is the one positive thing about 45. He keeps surprising us. 😖
And he totally... DOESN’T redeem himself!
With Dump, I learned many months ago to NEVER think that.
Matthew Rider, you are a complete imbecile and a waste of the thinking man's oxygen.
SirVixIsVexed Try again, you ALMOST managed to have a coherent statement there.
The teacher at my school that talks the most about being exmilitary is extremely sexist and racist and would definitely flash a concealed weapon to "jokingly" threaten kids he didn't like. But it's no big deal
I hear you.
r/thathappened
@@based_dragon_0110 They're not saying that it did?
Because he loves air conditioning and is white? Sure that checks as sexist and just being white classifies you as a racist bigot. Have you beaten your white neighbor this week?
@@arcturus4762 He was talking about a specific person being a bit unhinged. You sound a little off yourself (unless you=a bot?) Air conditioning, whiteness, etc. have nothing to do with what this person was talking about. Very bizarre comment.
We want our teachers to teach us. Not be the swat team.
please not an Armed teacher is likely to be mistaken for the shooter by SWAT when they show up
Wouldn't want to have a gun, either. It's funny the GOP puts down teachers as babysitters who only deserve min. wages. So now they gotta be Dirty Harry?
Khan Agreed!
so u want children to die? fucker
A friend of mine asked if I thought teachers should carry guns. I said, "Sure -- right after they graduate from the police academy." Teachers are not policemen and policemen are not teachers. If so, then schools would become prisons.
NRA
No Respect At all
Feels good to be in Canada
John Maxwell yep, my biggest complaint living here is the cold winters. Not the worst problem to have.
Sure does
Would hate to live on Canada. Beautiful nation, but the process to get a gun is ridiculous.
Rookie Ranger Canada would probably hate having you live here too
Rookie Ranger lol and here you are, please god dont come to canada, leave your fearful, gun culture down in that shithole of a country
I don’t like the arm teachers thing because teachers are just as likely to shoot up a school as students and could you imagine how easy it would be for a kid to grab it?
Page Summer Yeah, but just imagine how well-behaved the kids will be after the teacher shoots the first kid who acts up.
@@Chunkboi haha
Exactly
@@vecsen7794 yeah, after he said he was gonna give teachers guns and then people were giving him hate for that, then he eventually, just out of the blue, says he didn't say he was give any teacher guns, that he was gonna give experienced teachers guns. Any time something bad is said about him, he will either call it fake news, say it didn't happen, or say it in a different way that will make him look less bad.
@@vecsen7794 no. Because he ALWAYS does this. And you can't get rid of fire with MORE fire. So I don't think more guns are the awnser.
As an European, I seriously do not get your logic. I mean, come on, every other civilised country manages to get some kind of gun control in place. Even your beloved Norwegians. It's not that complicated. Just as you say: guns should only be in the hands of the best - and they have to prove that they are, indeed, capable of owning something potentially deadly. Also, the willingness to just kill another human being, attacker or not, is startling. The whole affair just leaves me in a mixture of terrified awe, speechlessness and anger.
Magdalena Hammer As an Asian, I think your thoughts are just common sense.
Welcome to America. I mean we put that idiot trump in office!!
Adam Balwinski No, Putin did.
This is unfortunately America. As a large amount of the population wants to have more gun control laws for years on end, yet the nra, and political figures along with what looks like a lot of far right republicans say 'no more guns.' While many of us can have common sense, the rest are idiots and reflect poorly on us.
Help us pls
Arm teachers and it won´t take long until one of them will go postal on students. What´ll they do then? Arm the kids?
*"Someone hell bent on killing, is going to find a way to do it."*
Yup, so we should do absolutely nothing to make it more difficult for them...
*"Arm the kids?"*
Just a day or two ago, the NRA fought against the idea of raising the minimum age to purchase rifles. Interestingly, there isn't even a minimum age requirement for joining the NRA, and they even have a separate class of membership for those 20 or younger. So, you may have meant it as a joke, but it's not as implausible as we'd like to think.
'Yup, so we should do absolutely nothing to make it more difficult for them...' - teachers and students used to carry guns to the school in America in 1950's, 60's, 70's and so on.....no mass shooting phenomenon was observed back in those times which indicates that the problem is societal and not attributable to guns. Here's an interesting graph - thesocietypages.org/feminist/files/2015/12/Mass-Shootings-Stanford-1.png
Also, trucks, cars, knives, acid, chemicals etc have been used in Europe by Islamic terrorists in place of guns so banning guns seems to be futile to which you could claim that society needs trucks, cars, knives and acids so we can't ban them unlike guns BUT people in rural and sub-urban regions where the 911 response times are abysmal do need guns to protect themselves for house intruders, robbers etc so guns are needed by society as well.
Trigger Town I honestly hate people like you, America clearly has a mass shooting problem but every time there is a shooting, people like try to deflect by using this argument and it’s stupid
Avicaris what do you suggest, if some one can legally buy a weapon they should be able to. What legislation has proven to be effective ? I would say banning or restrictions have not helped , look at chicago
Here's why giving teachers guns is a bad idea: My 9th grade German teacher was arrested for abusing his wife, my middle school gym coach was fired for walking in to the girls locker room while they were changing, my middle school band teacher was arrested for laundering money from the school system, and my junior year sociology teacher committed suicide. Dont get me wrong for every one of those teachers, i had good teachers who genuinely inspired me to learn. But teachers are human beings like the rest of us and they're just as susceptible to making mistakes.
Pyrosaurus_Rexx Truth!
To counteract that we should arm students in case the teachers go berserk
It's almost comically sad that we are having to explain this. Asking why you shouldn't arm teachers used to be as dumb as asking why you shouldn't fight fire with bazookas, and yet here we are... 'Murica.
PS. @Inayet Hadi, that was priceless. $5 says that if they do arm teachers and people are dead before 1st period is over that is exactly the rationale they're gonna use.
Cops are flipping human too, but you don't care about that ?
Pyrosaurus_Rexx ohh god, then there’s gonna be the English teacher whose a child molester threatening the kid and tells him he’ll kill him his family and friends with the gun if he tattles.
Our school couldn't afford cameras for photography class, or calculators for math classes. How could we afford guns for teachers?
Government subsidies.......
Actually, the NRA, said not only would the donate the guns, but also would train any teacher that would be willing to carry.
You people don't want to protect children. You just want to ban guns.
Take 1 right away, you take ALL rights away. What rights are you willing to give up.
@@coltwinchester6124 that’s is still not a good idea.
The solution to having too many guys in a country is not more guns.
There is a hole in your boat where water is coming in? Easy drill another hole so the water will flow out
That is a great analogy!
That's not how it works. Would you rather have no security? No means of protection for the students? Instead you have a gun-free zone that a deranged killer sees as a shooting range. If we had more security these would be less common. and would prevent a lot of tragedies.
If you think so. I don't agree. But whatever floats your boat, with all its holes.
That analogy doesn't even make sense. What stops a bad gun with a gun? A good guy with a gun. Its not a difficult thing to grasp
And what can stop a bad guy GETTING the gun? Not having the ability to walk into a shop and BUYING it right off the wall. It's not a difficult thing to grasp. And neither are guns, clearly.
Why Marco Rubio should be "commended" for showing up? He's a public servant. Public servants serve the people, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Its Marco and others job description, aka RESPONSIBILITY, neither privilege nor self-interest. Rubio and the likes disgust me.
To be fair, how often to Republicans actually make the effort to pretend they're doing their jobs? Rubio set the bar high enough you no longer need to dig a ditch to find it, you'll trip over it instead.
Sorry I do not understand about the part he said about banning all semi automatic rifles and everyone cheered. Was he saying something sensible and everyone cheered? Or he said something insensible and guns supporters cheered? What I thought was the latter.
True. It's a very limited commendation based on very low expectations. Ideally, you'd want public servants to serve and shut up. Realistically, Rubio showing up was an upturn for him and a lot of his colleagues.
Oic, Thanks!
TSK Rubio was trying to argue that a ban doesn't work because people will just buy the guns that aren't banned. Following his own logic however he then accidentally stumbled upon the obvious solution to this problem of banning not just some, but all semi automic rifles. Wich is exactly what most people in the audiance want. Thus they applauded him for countering his own argument by accident.
2009 Fort Hood shooting. 13 dead. Gunman knew people on the base are train soldiers and have guns... Let that sink in for those who think teachers with guns with lot of kids running around can do better.
Right my family used to live in ft hood at that time. I was traumatized.
No deterrent whatsoever. Excellent argument.
Heck, you don't have to go back to 2009, there was another one at Fort Hood in 2014, and there's also been a mass shooting at the Navy yard in 2013- 12 dead in that one as well.
i was literally scrolling through the comments hoping to see someone say this.
James Bond is a fictional secret agent who had to go through all kinds of background checks and restrictive regulations to get his license to kill. Are you okay?
Everytime Trump opens his mouth he reveals just how leaderless his country is
"We need to let people know, if you come into our schools... you're gonna be dead."
And it's not like this is the first thing he's said that sounds almost as bad in context as taken out of it...^^;
Actually, he reveals how leaderless HIS MOUTH is.
But America is leaderless as a fact. The citizens are in charge frankly, Area 51 is a good enough reason to start a civil war...or was back in 1776 but in America the citizens are in charge NOT the government. Trump is a civil servant and only does what we ask him to do. Quit your bitching and if you want to actually make a difference create a petition. That simple. But seriously, he is not a leader
"People buy into my agenda" - this is what legalized corruption looks like.
Robert Heath The the problem is lobbying.
Welcome to america lol
R F Yea. Even the ALREADY EXISTING, PROFESSIONAL SECURITY GUARD at that school (a deputy sheriff, mind you) shat his pants, and took cover when that kid went on his rampage. But Trump and the other shitheads at the irresponsible NRA think that some random teacher will do a better job, and precision-snipe the shooter within a mess of panicking students? Good luck, indeed lol.
What’s more likely to happen is that various innocent bystanders, mistakenly shot by armed teachers who are way in over their heads will actually ADD to the bodycount!
God - it would really help if Americans would travel abroad more often! Then, they would realize that people in all other developed countries on earth think they are complete fucking idiots about their stupid guns and second amendment - and rightfully so! 😂
Has corruption always been legal in your country?... I remember an old Simpsons episode when Lisa caught a congressman getting money from a corrupt businessman, but all of the sudden that's normal... maybe it was always normal
Charlie Sosa It certainly got worse when the moronic, so-called „Supreme“ Court ruled a number of years ago that 1.) „money equals speech“, and that 2.) „corporations are people“. That ruling is also known as „Citizens United“.
Ever since then, for instance gun manufacturers, their whore NRA and similar actors are absolutely free to push as many millions if not billions into political campaigns.
The politicians receiving this money all know what the deal is: „I got money from xyz - so once I get elected (...due to these campaign „donations“), I have to give these donors back their money‘s worth (usually, they give them back a hundredfold what they „donated“)“.
So long as „Citizens United“ stands, America is FUCKED.
I hear you.
As an ex-teacher, I just want to say that I am now even happier to be an ex-teacher.
Damn, shoot down the hopes of people who want to be teachers why don't you. Haha. #murica
Good, now shutup
woooosh
KingZ
Politicians are the ones doing that.
I would be seriously concerned if I had a kid, that their teacher whose been putting up with little shits for 30 years would just blow their own brains out all over the chalk board one day and traumatize my kid. Or worse yet, have a mental breakdown and take down little Timmy for screaming for the 50th time that day.
i can't listen to Trump anymore
Arman Shad...Good choice, if only the rest of the world could do the same.
I NEVER could
Hell, I've never been able to listen to him.
And a year later, it's only gotten worse. Everything he says is a lie, garbage, or a childish rant.
"We need people to know if you come into our schools you're dead." ok glad I'm not a student in the usa.
I'm glad your not here too
I can't believe this idiot is President. He doesn't even realise what he said.
God, that made me laugh out loud.
Hah, oh so true. Or maybe I should rather say, I hear you :P I hear these things they do over there and it sounds like someone have decided to roleplay a monty python sketch on a national level.
Last time I checked not every teacher has a military or law enforcement background, so I guess not all teachers are permitted to carry firearms?
Listening to Trump these days is akin to a toddler trying to tell a story and they do that thing were they start to ramble and lose their way.
Paul Burrows Only, it's kinda cute when a toddler does it. I did a lot of babysitting, and I loved listening to those silly meandering stories THEN. But now...I just wanna reach out and SLAP that toddler.
I thought this when I heard in speak, years ago. Somehow people thought he spoke in a way as to make him a way to make him a good presidential leader.
Paul Burrows my 3 yr old nephew is more coherent and his favorite word right now is Fart-bomb. Nuff said.
So schools become military confinements? Instead of making the issue more complex. I know make it easier for all. 1) Raise the age to purchase and carry to 21. 2) Ban assault weapons 3) Illegalize bunt to make weapons semi-automatic and automatic guns. 4) Long term goals: reverse supreme court decision that corporations are people and get money out of politics - so this mess and others doesn't happen again.
The Supreme Court wasn't wrong for saying that for-profit organizations can contribute to political campaigns under the First Amendment with the ruling on Citizens United; I may not be a lawyer, but it's hard to argue that they didn't interpret it correctly. I just think that the effects of the ruling are awful.
you have a gun problem in your country. you have to have stricter gun laws for private citizens. striker then what you are suggesting, in a modern western nation only profetional police officers, security personnel, and military personnel should have access to guns.
but the reality now that guns are common, arming the teachers is an insane idea, but you do need to hire armed security guards to post at schools all around America. because even with gun control it would take several decards to the number of guns already present in the US to drop. you can't make any legislation that would magically get rid of all the guns you have in your county.
gun free zones need to be protected by professionals with guns until the threat of gun violence is removed. that's just logic.
No, don't raise the gun buying age. That's as stupid an idea as keeping a drinking age above the age of majority. Either someone is an adult or isn't.
texas worm man works in the rest of the world.
"Assault weapon" is a bit of a nebulous term. More stringent regulations of barrel length, calibre, and magazine capacity, in conjunction with a firearms license programme, would likely be very effective.
Oh, yeah, and ban bump stocks, cause those have no sporting purpose.
This is literally the worst idea possible.
Luke Christian | More guns *=/=* less gun violence. Why haven't people figured this out?
We need some common sense gun laws. Background checks and psychological watch lists for people with homicidal ideation. Not restricting magazine capacity (it only takes one round to kill). If people want conceal/carry, make tactical training available so they can do it properly.
If you have to arm teachers, give them tazers, not firearms.
Najwan Najib By that logic, we shouldn’t make anything illegal, since people will just get them illegally.
Najwan Najib By that logic, we shouldn’t make anything illegal, since people will just get them illegally.
Trump thinks History lessons are about teaching 'how we win wars'
Well, Trump does love talking about victories that he, personally, had no part in.
Azure Balmung in my history class I learned about a failure that he also didn't have a part in
Sun Tzu: "For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill."
Well if history is how we win wars! Then it’s not American history you should study.
Guns don't kill people, legalized briberies in politics DO!
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". Which was OK in 1791 when the US did not have a standing army and people needed to defend themselves from external threats, native Americans and indeed each other. We don't live in 1791 anymore. Its also interesting that people who believe that the 2nd Amendment is sacred text but think the First Amendment can be ignored with impunity when people dare to use free speech to criticise gun owners.
Phil Broeders - Nice to hear some common sense like yours.
Yeah, it also says "a well regulated militia." Well-regulated. WELL. REGULATED.
Crystal Soulslayer "The Right of *the People* to keep and bear Arms." You forgot that part.
@Giovanni Aguilar: Did the Founding Fathers originally intend ordinary US citizens to bear... cannons? Seriously, your -oversized fake penis- AR15 won't stand chance against a drone.
My dude, that's what a militia was. People used to have a genuine need for militias, especially further from the major cities, because it would take weeks for the government to respond to an attack on the town. That's not a thing anymore, and even when it was, the weapons they had were nowhere near the level of refinement they are now.
Also, try to grasp the fact that we're not trying to take all your guns. You don't need a military-grade (semi) automatic rifle, you just don't, I don't care, you _don't._ But, like, nobody's saying you can't go hunting, or keep a pistol for self defense, or whatever. We'd just like to make sure you're not a lunatic before you buy a device specifically designed to kill things you point it at.
...Oh. Is _that_ what you guys have such a problem with?
The backfire that happens at 9:18 is absolutely beautiful...
why would we ban semi automatic rifles? you guys say that it’s just the rifles and that’s it but trust me after the semi automatic rifles are banned, the hand gun murder rate is going to increase and you are going to complain about that and then when you whine about that and ban hand guns, then stabbing as would rise with gun deaths from illegally obtaining firearms. rather then banning guns from law abiding citizens like that one time when the teacher punish the whole class because one dude did something wrong, we should make our police more brave so that they can save lives instead of waiting outside(four cops just stayed outside with guns while this was happening) , make the police more serious about red flags (the florida police got 39 signs before this happened) and make the fbi more serious about these red flags (2 signs they just ignored like the police)
the American people should not give their guns to these morons who can’t even defend their own country from obvious threats
by the way that part was hilarious though😂
I'm with you @lee Paul, except you have one fact wrong. Hand guns are already the leaders of fire arms deaths. Semi-automatic rifles are only exposed because of the mass shootings. However, most deaths are caused by handguns. So you can see, there is already a precedent for the liberals. Once we get the rifles, we can start blaming handguns (since they are the real killers).
John Marshall What you're talking about happens at 9:33 of the video. He {Marco Rubio} *Clearly* doesn't get it. The *WHOLE POINT* is to ban *ALL* semi automatic weapons. They're *Military* weapons. They have *NO PLACE* in the hands of the public *In ANY country* . They're tools of war. 😧🔫⚰🎯🌏🏤
i honestly would be scared if only teachers with military experience were allowed to have guns because you never know what a person in the military experienced and you never know how they may react in certain situations.
Exactly! You would never know what's going on in that teacher's mind. It would get worse. Trump is trying to take gain out of tragedy by selling more guns. Both Trump and NRA gets profit by doing so.
Well, either he believes that ‘Dangerous Minds’ was a real life documentary or, he wants all schools to become military academies which means more money for the NRA supplying the necessary educational materiel.
And I didn’t spell materiel incorrectly.
sarah noel, ikr! the mental health issues people keep talking about, sadly many vets have ptsd. not a good idea!.
Very few military personnel actually get combat experience, let alone PTSD.
Rookie Ranger is that so..
I got to give the students some serious credit. They have brass balls the size of fucking watermelons for going up to senators and on national TV and not hold a damn thing back. Wish I had classmates like those, back then.
Support kids who are doing this now! Find out what's going on locally and make a donation or ask them what woudld be helpful.
Support kids who are doing this now! Find out what's going on locally and make a donation or ask them what woudld be helpful.
Noah Schneider you mean the same students that were eating Tide pods. Yeah I want them giving law markers advice
I'm pretty sure these kids weren't eating Tide pods.
Looks like these kids are marking down the days until they're registered to vote.
"Y'now what would stop this Cholera outbreak.... More raw sewage."
i dont think the whitehouse could be hold any more raw sewage.
The White House is now an outhouse and the NRA loving GOP all have verbal diarrhea. Making America great again one massacre at a time.
‘You know what can stop the flue? More guns!’ - American government.
It would never work. If you took away law abiding citizens' raw sewage, only criminals would have raw sewage.
Can't have disease outbreaks if everyone is dead :)
I've seen teachers furious because a child needs to use the restroom🤔 I can't even think about it. How many teachers are willing to kill? #SAD
Once had a substitute teacher literally write up every student for nothing. Next day, the real teacher said if we ever all act "like that again" we would all get detention.
That substitute was fucking mean and had a short temper too. Would not give her a gun in the classroom.
Giving a detention =/= murder
1. Even if the teachers are armed or not, the teachers will be shot first before the rest of the class gets shot. You don't know which teacher is packing? Shoot them first. Eliminate threat before it becomes a threat.
2. For maximum carnage, the shooter could get classmates while they're unloading from school buses. Which leads to arming school bus drivers.
3. The cycle repeats with different scenarios until pistols, shotguns, assault-style rifles are banned. :/
For the 2nd amendment and gun lovers
4. ''''''' Tyrannical tyrant governmental NWO takes over. """
5. 2nd Amendment lovers: "I knew it....."
Everything he says is terrifying, he manage to be disgraceful even when describes an history teacher like someone who teaches "how we win wars, okay?". In my country I really don't believe that's an history teacher purpose. His mentality is crazy. He is the real "sicko".
Oliviero Gullotta you're confused. In America, WW2 is heavily fed to us and explained how and why we won via history teachers. It's also tongue and cheek if you can get that
I am not confused, simply I'm not american. I wonder how you're teached about the two nuclear bombs americans used at the end of WW2. But I must say, I'm not surprised, your history is pretty short compared to the other's country and it's strongly characterized by wars. Your whole history in the first place is based on a genocide. Destruction and self-absolution are so interlinked in the american culture...
for real
Trump needs to go to bed. Sit down. So darn delusional. Sick!
Oliviero Gullotta,
Seems to me you are hispanic.
You know where you come from right. It is from spain and for your information is not like spain bought the land. Anyway i wonder if you live in USA though.
The best thing about Trump is his ability to keep on surprising us all. When you're sure he can't get any stupider, HE DOES! simply amazing.
ecilana1234 just got his script from NRA
There are already schools which have allowed concealed carry for years, with no incidents. What's stupid?
What a strange freakin world we now live in. Every day I hear our "president" speak, I find myself re-defining the word "pathetic." If not the absolute worst president ever, he'll certainly go down in history as the worst PERSON to ever hold the job. :-/
And that's even including Nixon and Andrew Jackson.
He's recently been ranked by experts as the least presidential president, ever. Out of a scale of 100, he got a 12. Guess what place Obama came? 8th, out of 45. That's gonna sting when Trump eventually learns, but he's in a safe space. He can't hear bad things that aren't from CNN or NBC.
Which experts?
PCBacklash _ yeah how terrible, he actually has common sense, something you OBVIOUSLY lack
And we can't say it enough times, the worst president ever and definitely the most evil human being on the planet, no exceptions. Even Putin loves him for that reason.
Why aren't they considering that MAYBE, just MAYBE The mass shooter is better and faster at firing? I don't know.
Teachers are there for the kids, not to stand by the door every half hour to see if any killer is there.
How is this practican in any way?
Yes, let's solve the gun problem.... With more guns!
LoiseauLiberte
That’s why you arm teachers that want to be armed and most likely have actual training and experience in firearms not the old math teacher
More guns in schools is like putting out a fire with gasoline
Jerminator 356 Because gun free zones are working beautifully?
It's the American version of those Swedish anti-rape bracelets.
Jerminator 356 Why don't we just ban AR 15s?
Jakob Waack Like criminals aren't going to use other firearms to commit the same crimes?
Jakob Waack Because AR-15s are identical to hundreds of other guns that are and should be legal.
Yes they work beautifully, its called the rest of the world. Its hard to take guns away from gun lovers but it works and society and humanity will be better off. .
Someone please tell me that cheat sheet thing was a joke, it's falling in that uncanny valley between "things he'd be stupid enough to do" and "things that are too stupid to be real"
When I first saw that on Twitter the other day I thought for sure it had been Photoshopped by someone having a lark. But no, evidently Trump really is that fucking stupid.
I don't know if he's suffering from early onset dementia, but what is absolutely clear is that his brain is utterly incapable of empathy. The cheat sheet, to me, seemed like his staffers giving him prompts on how to respond in a way that made him *seem* empathetic. I imagine they intended for him to revise the points before meeting with the kids rather than actually having it in his hands at the time. The man is, after all, a complete moron.
Ikr out of all the shocking things he has done this is the one that rendered me speechless.. where am I??
It's not dementia, it's willful stupidity .The kind of stupidity that comes from a lifetime of refusing to ever learn anything.
we could tell you it was a joke but we'd be lying. so do you wanna hear the truth?
My problem with this solution besides the fact that it is ridiculous, but how long before a crazy angry teacher turns on a student because, let's be honest, our children aren't the easiest to teach nowadays and can push a teacher to the limit.
Brenita Bridges I couldn’t agree more. The idea of teachers being armed is asinine. I’m a Trump supporter, but this is a horrible idea. Unfortunately, I see a lot of finger pointing, with nobody offering a solution that would have prevented this or any other mass shooting.
David Farnell I agree. You would think that with all the supposed intelligence in Washington that we would come up with a solution that would benefit everybody.
Brenita Bridges
"let's be honest, our children aren't the easiest to teach nowadays"
I hope you aren't a teacher or a mom, or an aunt, or a big sister, etc, etc...
DrunkenAussie I am and your stupid point?
Brenita Bridges
Stupidly small numbers is my "stupid point" the number of deaths due to school shootings is stupidly small (roughly the same as botched circumcisions) and I am sure the rate of assault by teachers is going to be even stupidly smaller.
Add guns to school and what people compare to jail, may actually become a jail for minors: both of them have bad food, give the people inside 45 minute outside time, give them an education, superiors monitor them, and there’s a person in charge of everything. Now all we need are individual cells...
Carolyn Sam But criminals have a greater chance of employment after completing their sentence.
Some school in future America, a teacher:
„Jamal in the third row reached for his waistband. I feared for my life. Boom Headshot!“
Some court in future America, handling this case: Teacher acquitted.
taxiuniversum by then the "teach your ground law" will be implemented, but too bad for Jamal.
taxiuniversum so?
That's what I was thinking. Does no one remember that one time your teacher lost their shit? It's happened to everyone at least once while they were in school.
EXACTLY!!!!!! @taxiuniversum
I think so too. One of my teachers lost it very often and broke a meter long ruler on the guy sitting next me hitting me in the process. Of course she got fired but imagine she had a gun that day.
I feel sorry... I laughed when US picked Trump as his president.. but nowadays, I really feel bad for US citizens.. even those highschool students sound smarter than the government and senators
Please stay safe there...
richardanthony Exactly. The wisdom of children.
don't be, the US citizen were the ones who elected him
Could have been worse if Clinton was the president.They didn't have the choice.
Oh yes, the horrors of a non-treasonous president who can string an articulate sentence together and not be surrounded by the lowest sorts of scandal 24/7. Get the fuck out, you deflecting lepton. Nobody likes Clinton but she sure as fuck has a lot of marks over Trump.
The citizens didn't elect him; He lost the popular vote.
And Trump still wonders why Norwegian don't want to live in the USA...
"he's a four star marine" and i can't help but think Trump assumed it was 4 out of 5 as a rating for how good you are as a military guy, or...whatever.
Fua Consternation he still punked out and more kids died.. he could at least have distracted the shooter... if your child was in there would you be willing to let him/her die?
Fua Consternation The problem with the whole “armed deputy” outside the school is an issue of training and tactics. The single armed officer doesn’t go in because he cannot assume there is only one shooter and that shooter only has guns. If he went in, at best he might succeed...but there’s a greater chance he’d only add one more body to the count and give the shooter more firepower and a radio to eavesdrop on law enforcement. The shooter might also have an IED, maybe with a deadman switch. That means more dead people at a faster rate. The best thing to do is call in the SWAT team, which takes precious minutes to mobilize. An active shooter is a tactical nightmare.
it must be a thrill to use such big words. huh, kid?
A lot of teachers have said they are not comfortable with a firearm in the classroom. My friend’s dad is Navy and has concerns about teacher/student safety during an active shooter situation where teachers have guns. According to him, law enforcement and SWAT are trained to shoot at anyone with a gun because they have no time to ask the teacher if they are the shooter. Thus there is the potential of more injuries and fatalities
Isabell Dodson Exactly so. I am a teacher. If I am barricaded in my classroom with all my students pointing a gun at the door thinking a shooter is about to come in, amd the police come in instead, assuming that I don't panic and fire at the officer by mistake, the officer will see the gun in my hands and be very likely to fire at me, which means he is shooting in the direction of my kids too.
I won't ever carry a gun at work. It would put students in more danger, not less.
SirVixIsVexed Didn't the school from the mass shooting already have armed guards?
People who have never fired a weapon when they are full of Adrenalin and fear think that firearm somehow is going to turn you into John Wayne. I am military and nearly everyone I know pissed themselves and were disoriented the first time they were fired at. This is after a year of work up training.
I have been trained on Navy drills and when you are given the go ahead to fire on an adversary with your sidearm, almost everyone unloads the whole magazine to spite having training and being told repeatedly to only maim and disarm the person.
Exactly what Jewish schools are you talking about? Are you talking about the articles about schools in Israel? Please tell me you are not talking about Israel.
So teachers need to made barely enough to pay rent , but there is so much extra money to buy guns, train them how to use it and mantain...
Teachers are NOT there to kill people. Asking someone to take a human life, even if they are doing harm, is asking too much of someone whose job it is to teach.
The instinct to avoid killing is pretty strong, even if the defence instinct is too.
+Shannon Schultz - Okay then the shooter now has free aim until cops show up. You have to adapt to situations. A chance of a teacher taking out an armed shooter is better than waiting for cops.
Shannon Schultz Sure they're " not there to kill or harm " there's nothing wrong with " asking someone " who has the aptitude " not to kill rather protect. I personally really appreciate someone who would do their job and do it well...Our President sat down with quite a few persons and invited the entire country to sit in and have a listen and he talked with them about anything and everything that they needed to express. Here is a follow thru on this horrific... i don't know what to call it, thing, sickness, disease ,illness. We all want you safe at school on the play ground at the park everywhere you are, th-cam.com/video/Jy4mOxQC_0Q/w-d-xo.html You'll have to pardon some of the arrogant and conceited as well as thoughtlessness @ the comment board, but anyway I like hearing from the President himself and the Local and State Officials whom he is talking over these matters with by far more so than listening and getting an opinion from a talk show host / entertainer .
Mr Sir there’s also a better chance of the shooter KILLINg the teacher.....
alexdapostman yes, and in a world where these people can’t get a gun, less will be killed.
Oh shit, you’re bringing up abortions. Let me tell you that I fully sup- no. I don’t. Fetuses aren’t even a person. Personhood is granted when a fetus is viable and ONLY when a fetus is viable. A person loses his/her/it’s personhood when it loses consciousness and does not regain it. And I’m sorry, quoting a supposedly infallible book filled with contradictions written millennium ago does not support your argument; in fact it makes it much, much weaker
I’m surprised Colbert still has a job. Trump doesn’t need a comedian to make fun of him. He totally write the jokes himself.
I understand that schools are the current topic, but mass shootings happen at work, at church, in movie theaters, at concerts! Basically any public place is a 'soft zone' to someone who wants to shoot it up. Roughly 30,000 people lose their lives to gun violence every year in this country, yet a deluge of guns w/lax regulation isn't the problem?! What if we were this lax about car safety or drunk driving? Why does anyone need a military grade weapon? And quit talking about mental illness as the culprit when Trump & this congress rolled back regulation to make it harder for people with the condition to buy guns last year. It's easy to see these people's motivation to defend guns, blame everything else including the victims & do nothing, as usual, $$$$$!!
Fern Viking 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Fern Viking yeah let's think about this. 600,000 people die from compilations of obesity. 30 teens are killed every day texting and driving. 52,000 people die of opioid overdoses every year. I think we have bigger problems. This psychopath could have easily made a bomb and chucked into the room. If someone is set on killing they are going to find a way to do it. Look at drugs they are legal but people still use drugs, people who are of this mindset will find a way. You can't stop them you but you can slow them down, but ultimately they will prevail.
Fern Viking
The orange moron is a hypocrite, saying things like "my prayers go to....... ", can anybody picture the orange moron and his illegal wife on their knees, praying. Really? When the orange bitch allows the Russians to launder money through the nra, and he is getting a biiiiiig cut. He claims to be a Business man, you know.
J Dial As far as I can tell Trump is pretty center. Republicans dislike him and dems dislike him. We call Trump a tyrant and then beg him to confiscate all guns. America is fucked, lol.
INFAMY614 False. Trumps approval rating among republicans was at 90%, last I saw.
I wouldn't a country which militarizes its schools a free and safe one. Trump is just basically obeying the whims of the gun manufacturers and lobbyist so they can make a profit.
what?
Interesting choice of words, you think it's okay for private law abiding citizens to conceal carry on CAMPUS. What about at school, elementary school, middle school... Fuck off with your shit about liberals. Make a case without trying to boiling things down to just name calling.
223Drone, yes, NRA put $33 million in Trump's piggy bank during the campaign. That's enough to pay hush money to sexual conquests, ...with a lot left over.
Ofcourse he is obeying them. They pay him and the GOP good money to do so... oh sorry it is called "donate" /s
@Matthew Rider Your argument is strawman. No other developed country has armed guards or is considering to militarize your school. Arming teachers and/or veterans and "fortifying schools is pretty much militarization.
There is also no evidence to suggest that fortifying schools and arming teachers will be able to stop mass shootings.
www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-security-measures-really-stop-school-shootings/
Your country can't pay teachers enough money and supply them with proper teaching equipment yet they have the money to arm them just shows how skewed your countries priorities are. Teachers are suppose to teach their not commandos.
HOW.. can he get away with saying anything so insane and no one in the room challenges him?
Trump- We give them a bonus
Yes headshots are now worth 50 points
I don't agree with the President wanting a bonus for teachers who carry guns in class.
Having been professionally trained I can tell you in a crisis situation for most it’s a 50/50 chance to hit a target just 12 feet away. (that’s why we have automatic rifles). For someone moderately trained what will people think the first time a shot misses its target, oops! No, it will be I can't believe the teacher killed my kid. All those teachers who are great role models now faced with this horrendous burden. I also worry about all those teachers who are not the best role models some of them being bullies…. now lining up to carry guns. What kind of classroom will that be. I thought little Johnny had a gun, I acted in self-defense… I love my guns, but I can’t imagine a gun carrying School environment bringing less fear to our society. I can see it as one that destroys imagination and individuality as it pushes conformity. Think about it, no one fires just one shot in a gunfight. It will be an almost certainty that anyone returning fire will accidentally kill children they are protecting. Unimaginable to bear. Australia had A school shooting, they banned the assault rifles. Since that time the government has had buy backs for anyone who owned them. They have not had a single school shooting since. Schools are not the military, kids are not soldiers. Don’t promote a society that merges the two.
Very good thoughts. Even cops sometimes panic when they start firing with some of their shots going astray, and they are usually highly trained. More weapons will just make a bad situation worse.
Brandon Mills Thank you, I didn't want anymore shootings because I'm leaving for Florida soon, you against Trump? I support you, he's stupid as hell
It works in Israel. It works in the State of Utah. No blood running down the hallways because a teacher shot a student.
And what about other violent incidences at schools, like a fight? I've had to break up fistfights before, luckily I was there when they broke out, so no major injuries, but what if a teacher comes across a kid beating the crap out of another kid, and shoots the kid doing the beating. Now you've just used lethal force on a CHILD who, though harming someone, probably wasn't going to kill, and certainly didn't deserve the death penalty. And if you DON'T use the gun in that situation, you have to try and break up a fight, when you have a weapon on you... there are just way too many things that can go wrong in that scenario (and it's a very likely scenario, I've been a teacher for five years, and have had to break up four fistfights).
Brandon Mills Thank you! I am really worried about the direction this country is heading.
If they say: "Guns don't kill, people do"
They should also say: "Nuclear weapons don't kill, countries do" and give North Korea as many nukes as they wish!
How is it possible that some politicians prefer NRA money above U.S. lives?
#actnow
They should like...give the North Korean teachers nukes so like if Rocket Man wants to launch a nuke, the teachers will nuke him first. JOBS!
You guys are terrible with analogies. Saying its not the nuke itself but the country who holds them is exactly why we wouldn't give north Korea nukes
tomismop
it's a good analogy - it's not that we don't want to give nukes to Korea specifically, but to ALL countries in general.
Well, now a kid will be afraid of both other classmates and teachers shooting them. Billy didn't turn in his homework so he's shot in the head.
Well then, we'll just have to arm Billy, that will- oh wait, shit.
LMAO I can’t with America. I’ve been shocked so many times these last few years I resort to laughter. I love my country Australia 🇦🇺
Don't worry, I'd like to think I wasn't. I mean, I've got my issues, but one of them isn't Gun Fanciers Monthly.
unitedjt345
Could never live in Australia with its strict gun laws, personally. I appreciate my right to defend myself.
thewanderandhiscomp
Precisely. Too dangerous not to carry. Feel naked without something on me. Would never move to a nation that makes me have to be interviewed by Law Enforcement before I can carry. Not only that, but one where I can't have detachable magazines.
Donnie and the NRA have a really strange idea that shooters select their targets based on a checklist. In fact, most shooters attack a school with which they have a connection, often which they are attending or attended in the past. For this reason, the idea that the shooter has no idea which teachers are armed is a non-starter, mainly that the people with that opinion have not yet started learning to think seriously.
Is your president educated??? Just asking because my 4 year old grandson strings together more coherent sentences.
He is one of the least intelligent people I have ever seen.
Mervyn Stephens he’s not my president and yes, he’s an incompetent boob and always has been. I’m devastated he’s at the helm. Absolutely sickened.
He’s the most smartest person he’s ever met.
He knows words, the best words.
No....no he isn't...did you really have to ask?
Because training OVER STRESSED & UNDER PAID Teacher's with "SWAT Sniper.Skills", and who MUST make split second Life or Death decisions, and to take out a student/perp with a guarantee of Zero collateral damage..(dead innocent kids) who panic, freeze, are confused, or try to help, but get caught in the cross fire??Can "All" schools afford entire indoor and outdoor surveillance? ? Can they afford Civil Lawsuits, for your kid being a victim of collateral damage, miscommunication, poor logistics, human error, or mistaken identity, etc.??If school Districts can't afford Life Saving CPR Devices that can Resuscitate a person & Rich school Districts have several, others either just 1, or None.How can schools afford the gun toting Teacher's being trained in Criminal profiling, handling violent perps on drugs, mentally ill, hostage negotiations or who their goal is Suicide by Cop??Even cops who are trained in firing guns can NOT have perfect Marksmanship & guarantee a 100% center mass hit, for perps who are running, hiding, using people as shields, have body armor on, and who are equipped with High powered automatic rifles that can fire hundreds of bullets in mere seconds, and large caliber handguns, which cause maximum soft tissue damage when they're exiting a victim's body.And unless, these SWAT Trained Teacher's are capable of cloning themselves, how the hell can they reach a perp/student who's not in the same room with you or on the opposite side of the School campus??Instead of training gun toting Teacher's, just hire SUPER Hero's with Super powers, Batman, Superman, Ironman, etc. as Teacher's because it sounds just as STUPID & UNREALISTIC as Trump's gun toting, SWAT Teacher's to help with School Violence as a solution???? Lol..Don't blame, guns, the NRA, or Trump for Schools gun Violence attacks.Blame the Gun toting, specialty trained Teachers...Lol
Axel
A wet paper towel has more intellect than Trump.
I can't listen to Trump anymore. Colbert should consider not telling jokes about Trump anymore. It's to painful. I'm a teacher in Holland. No guns here, no problems Well, there are guns, but I have NEVER seen anyone with a gun, I'm nearly 50 years old. I don't know anybody who OWNS a gun. Nobody I know is CONSIDERING buying a gun. The IDEA of me carrying a gun as a teacher is as remote to me as me flying to work on a flying carpet. No guns, no deaths by gun violence. It's very simple, actually.
Percival Hans Why don't you watch Dutch TV?
Albert Weijers smart response
You're obviously not gun adept. You've never had a gun. Probably never shot one. Why would they arm you? What good would you be?
Tracymmo I do, actually
Daniel Larsen thank you. You convinced me, arm all (gun adept) teachers, this will solve it. Sure.
First off, not a lot of military veterans in teaching. Second, I am very leftist, yet do believe in school security. However, trained security guards, are one thing. Teachers should not be that. My mom is a teacher and she would end up shooting herself in the foot. And I grew up with police and security guards on campus due to gang related violence, and they stopped people from entering the school with guns during gang conflicts, and also used to patrol and protect the school. But not every school can do that. They were friendly and made us feel safe, but it’s sad we are to that point. Security should be enforced, but more importantly the education of mental illness, and emergency plans in place to protect students. There should be more protection in school so kids are safe once they are inside, but NOT armed teachers. Checking students for weapons and enforcing security measures is needed. But, also, education should be just that, educating on mental illness, safety, and also they should talk about things in school to help identify harmful behavior, how to react in those situations, and provide counseling for any one suffering from mental illnesses. Defense needs to happen, but not in the form of teachers forming a militia. These things will happen and it is awful, but we need to protect the students, keep harmful adults and others off of campus, and help but defensive and “offensive” preventative mental health support systems in place to help prevent the downward spiral of hurting students and maybe even teachers. This is sad that his response to everything is “shoot em”. These dads need to start thinking about what is best for their grandkids, and how they can prevent this type of thing happening in the future.
Josephine Anne Weigers I agree fully
“But we’re Americans! We don’t stop because we’re wrong! We just keep doing the wrong thing until it turns out right!”
- Ed Wuncler from ‘The Boondocks’
Josh Barnard yeah that is preferable you fucking dimwit.
lol, definition of insanity.
Are u Russian man ?😟😟
R.I.P. Charlie Murphy
Sam Somo
Lol
Do you think the Ruskies would know about an [adult swim] cartoon?
There were 2 armed guards in Florida. They earn $16 an hour. Not a lot of wiggle room to be a hero.
Scene N. Herd
Let's ASSUME he encountered the shooter.. a hand gun VS an AR15.. the shooter was in a HALLWAY where students were there... if you are in his shoes, would you shoot right away??? what if innocent kids get shot instead.. will the LAW protect him?? think about that! YES it was a MISTAKE, it was his JOB and he should be ashamed of what he failed to do..and he lost his job and i would also NOT argue if he would be punished because of it or even convicted from it tbh... but can you blame him if you are in his shoes??? an AR15 VS a hand gun??? mmmmmm.
Are you saying the fact the armed guards are paid $16 an hour is the reason they didn’t do their job?
Marco Rubio's face when he proved the crowd's point is priceless.
"You come into our schools, you're gonna be dead." Because that's what kids want to hear.
Truly this is thinking outside of the box......excuse me I mean “BRAIN”.
OMG...LOL
Teachers are teachers. They’re not meant to be bodyguards and it’s really unfair to put that intense of a responsibility on them (protecting our kids lives from a shooter). School are already grossly underfunded and classes are overcrowded, I’d rather my money go for better equipment, books, things that will help my children learn, so that teachers and students can do the job they’re suppose to do. And the idea of having retired military or police officers to be your teacher so they’re already trained ... does it matter at all if they’re even good at teaching? This whole this puts too much on our teachers and also undermines how hard it is to be a teacher. It’s not a job anyone can do or a job anyone should just be able to do.
Trumps suggestions are absolutely ludicrous and Marco Rubio’s “justification” is pathetic. There’s no reason civilians should have assault rifles and putting more guns in schools to deter someone from shooting it up ... it’s so unbelievably ridiculous how far this argument has gone when people are still dying. These are kids going to school and should be worried about homework, friendships, relationships, just being kids and teachers should be planning lessons, helping students, just being teachers.
Having a firearm just acts as an added security measure if worse comes to worse. There's no doubt that schools are a huge target to shooters because of the fact that its a "gun-free zone". If we up the security a bit, these would happen a lot less. Weather that's achieved by arming the teachers or having more security. Either way, there's no denying schools don't need some form of security. Shooting the killer is a better option than running away.
Carolina, Well said
why does TH-cam allow people to have names this long? This is kind of ridiculous don't you think?
No added responsibility in carrying a gun around kids??? Why don't you ask a police officer if you're right on that point?
What monumentally stupid thing to say.
As for your gun free zone nonsense, now you are just a liar. There are investigations into every shooting and *not one single investigation has found that the target was chosen because it was a "gun free zone" NOT EVEN ONE!*
There's not even any evidence and you have the gall to say there's "no doubt"? LIAR.
The VAST majority of mass shootings do not even occur in gun free zones!!
First of all, no need to get all worked up about it. I'm just stating my viewpoints. I'm not saying its a perfect solution either, I'd much rather have trained security personnel carrying firearms. But its not the worst idea in the world. It could potentially save a lot of lives.
why does TH-cam allow people to have names this long? This is kind of ridiculous don't you think? Of course there is added responsibility to having a fire arm; guns can kill people. Every profession who carry weapons on them are professions where there’s a high potential of being attacked or killed (like police officers). And those are professions you go in knowing that that’s a big possibility and I have so much respect for them doing a job where they might not be coming home. Teachers shouldn’t be on that list. Many go into teaching with a love and passion to teach and impact young lives, not have their lives on the line to be able to teach. I don’t think those who shoot up schools are of the sound mind to think of which one will be the easiest because clubs, movie theaters, restaurants, concerts, etc, have been targets. It’s wherever that person has directed their anger or what ever drives them to commit these heinous acts. And like I said in my first comment, teachers and schools are so underfunded already, where is the money going to come from to train and then arm them? They spend so much of their own money on supplies to be able to create and go through with lessons to teach our children but sure, let’s throw whatever money they could be using towards better textbooks, supplies, etc, and put it towards arming them 🤨.
Im so glad im not an American.
Jason Lee Where are you from? Asking for a friend.
Adam Ross that made me lol thanks
Adam Ross Straya
Bluejunglecat thanks junglecat
tayke1plz LOL
When you buy your children s supplies for school: bag, pencil....bulletproof vest..., shoes, books...gun, eraser, etc
What is wrong with this man? Is he crazy, rather than change the gun laws he wants to expose children to more guns.
Valentina Richard it hasn’t been verified yet, but we’re all betting on crazy
Trump greatest man from god to ever be elected
Valentina Richard Thank you for your support man, I hate that dork so much, Fuck him!
Margaret Bonassar I think crazy sounds right.
Valentina Richard indeed it does, he's a dumbass
Why is having gun so important to people there and not to rest of the world?
Didn't get you there brother, rest of the world is enslaved by someone? People go to all the developed countries from lesser developed ones, not just the USA.
W Chandra
This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!
- Adolf Hitler, 1935
W Chandra
This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!
- Adolf Hitler, 1935
Study History, and you’ll find your answers
texas worm man 😂😂😂😂😂
they're afraid of minorities. Watch bowing for Columbine. It shows how the mad rush for guns started when slaves were freed. Thats also why mass immigration was used to get more people from Europe. Post slavery the Black population outnumbered the white population. Ever notice how when police shoot a black person its always because they thought the black man was holding a gun, which is often times in of itself was not illegal, just like Philando Castille who told the cop he had a gun and a license and was still murdered. The NRA never stands up for Black people's gun rights. Only white people. Black people get charged with minor crimes all the time as a pretext for taking away their gun rights and voting rights.
So proud of these kids 💗
Indeed! They are the bright light in this darkness.
Wow and here in my country, I would be terrified if the police would get access to guns...
Here, I'd hope they had automatic weapons and the full permission to kill. There's enough civillian shooters defended by the Liberals to have them freely roaming La Victoria
just when teachers thought their job couldn't get anymore shitty, now they have to risk their lives doing it !
Mahrez Mus with all the school shootings, how are they not doing that already? At least now they can protect themselves.
why should they protect themselves of a gun shooting while other teachers in other countries don't have that problem in the first place, also, "protect themselves" ? by going on a head to head western style facing the shooter with an assault rifle, when even the police officer who got to the school first didnt even go into it ?
Mahrez Mus the other country argument does not and probably never will work in America. Gun control? We've tried it. Several times. Maybe you don't remember the assault weapons ban we already had during Clinton. It didn't stop gun violence in any way. Or maybe look at California, Illinois, or New York. All these "common sense" gun measures are in place there and together they have the most gun violence in the country. So what's your suggestion? We let the teachers and by proxy the children be helpless? Or do you give them a fighting chance? You don't want more children to die but you refuse to admit that gun free zones, common sense gun safety, or any of that shit doesn't work. So what are our options? Just let it keep happening?
Donald Trump's logic: Shark attacks are at a record high... Australia: let's put out some nets to keep them out... NRA: Let's get you a shark... to protect you from other sharks 😉
M. Rodrigo Lemus I swear there's a joke about guns and vaccinations somewhere. Want to be safe from gun violence/deaths? Here, have a gun.
M. Rodrigo Lemus inacurrate analogy, its more like saying bad guys get guns some how .. Better arm the people without guns so they can do something atleast
Wolf Pack Then have tons of people with PTSD?
Arming teachers? Okay, _this_ is a distraction.
I have absolutely no clue how this could go well. If this actually becomes a thing, I am certain that the already skyrocketing rate of mass shootings in America will increase even further.
Focusing on just gun control instead of addressing the underlying issues that lead to people killing others is the height of stupidity.
And those reasons are? And please, please don't say mental illness because that's really not a plausible reason as racism and supremism aren't mental illnesses
Maheep Singh metal illness is just one issue that needs to be looked at. The media inciting and dividing the public with their propaganda is another, the break down of the family, low socioeconomic areas and crime, drug use, especially psychiatric drugs and other issues all need to be addressed. Like I said, just focusing on gun control is height of stupidity. Sadly, the morons who love these late-night shows, who just try to sell you the leftist media talking points in a dumbed-down way, dance to their tune. Gun control has a place, but it is not a solution to the problems within society that produce these monsters like Cruz.
emcats84
I agree that it's a societal and capitalistic problem, but I honestly don't agree with any other point you just said there. Please note that I am in fact but American and hence haven't experienced this first hand, but I've seen all those points before and I've seen them be refuted multiple times with convincing enough evidence. I am sorry but I do not have any links to said evidence right now, and as I'm typing this on a phone right now I can't go about locating it again easily either. So basically my whole argument could be disregarded anyway, but still, this is what I think
What's a conservative's answer to the gun problem? More guns. I am sighing so hard right now.
More good people with guns
Trump on Twitter, 2016: "Crooked Hillary said that I want guns brought into the school classroom. Wrong!"
There's always a tweet.
Agree, it is wrong to bring guns into the school classroom, and Trump wants bring guns into the school classroom.
He's large, he contains multitudes.
Hillary was right!
People voted for that thing. Real people.
Leonidas Spartan just shows you how many stupid, stupid morons there are. Frightening
Incorrect. Real people have empathy and actually give a shit about whether their leader is intelligent. Those who still support trump and his utterly ridiculous “solutions” don’t care about anybody but themselves and their rights to own guns in exchange for dead kids. Fuck their debates based on their rights. Trump has disgraced the office, this country, and its citizens.
Leonidas Spartan Real and willfully stupid people.
Fun fact (in case you weren't aware) Hillary won the popular vote.
The SYSTEM allowed him into office, not the people.
Well, and now Russia, purportedly. By the way, it was by three million votes, primarily because a blue state like California contains roughly 70x the population than Wyoming, but less than 20x the electoral votes.
It's been nearly 19 years since Columbine, and nothing has been done.
Alain Archambault There has been 1600 mass shootings since Columbine. As one Australian politician said 'there's something really rotten in the power structure in the US'
Americas elite need to step up, the rich....Gates, Bezoz, Buffet. For every donation NRA makes they double it in favour of gun control. Its simple.
Because whats happening is continuing moral decay of our families as generation after generation of undisciplined kids grow up to be even worse parents. Allowing unlimited access to internet and uncontrolled cell phone usage to everything someone can imagine. No discipline, no morals, no character, no control and no family. Self control and decency is destroyed by liberal action and inaction. Who wants to be inconvenienced by disciplining the children? that would take time away from all the fun immoral stuff.
@greg miller
You do have some merit in your observation. It's like comparing Game of Thrones and Andy Griffith. You have the young girl assassin verses the gosh, golly, gee wiz crowd. As a young boy I remember local stores being closed on the sabbath. There is something to be said for sociological traditions that brings communities into lock step when it comes to indoctrinating moral fibre.
On the other hand, sometimes ignorance doesn't grant bliss. Then again, people now spout all sorts of crazy conspiracy theories all over the internet. Like Patton was assassinated by Eisenhower or those contrails are actually chemtrails used in "geo engineering", and those flat earthers. Used to be that we only had a few radio and TV stations broadcasting, and our local newspapers. Crazy ideas didn't get much chance to circulate.
Still the underlying problem is anxiety, brought by the hidden tax called inflation. This plus those nutty conspiracies are combining into a dangerous mix.
Piriathy
All too right. Had a guy argue with me saying it's perfectly normal for a single woman to own an AR15. The mentality behind that is astounding. As I recall the attack at Sandy Hook, it was the teachers own weapon that was turned against the school. They're just too many weapons lying around. Just get rid of them. Hunters can have their bolt action rifles, and double barrelled shotgun would suffice for home protection if semi automatics were removed from the landscape. Semi automatics aren't about accuracy, they're about volume of fire. Crowded situations wouldn't come under fire as much if one slows down the rate of fire.
There's no real point to semi automatic assault weapons except for mass murder.
Yea ok if someone broke in your apartment and you need to defend yourself- you don’t need a freakin assault military grade gun that shoots 800 rounds a minute-- use a baseball bat or pepper spray, or a taser or air gun and call the cops. This advanced weaponry just isn’t necessary when it comes to civil defense
Unless the person breaking in has a gun. Tazers pepper spray and a bat are not 100% effective a gun is. You sound like an idiot.
@@crimsonjedi what I think he means is, you should be able to have guns, like handguns, rifles, and shotguns. But i dont think you would need a big ass gun that shoots like 800 rounds
@@anarch1.c I agree that we should not have fully automatic weapons for public use even though our constitution says we should have the same grade weaponry as the military in case of government tyranny. But most semi automatic rifles have a clip of about 30 rounds which I don't think is to much. Some hanguns can hold around 20-25 bullets so not much of a difference. If we had a ban on semi auto rifles today it just wouldn't work the way people want it to. Americans that follow the law would probably give up there guns but not criminals or just ones that don't want to do it. This would just cause less law biding and good citizens to have guns and more bad guys to have guns. Very very risky if you ask me.
@@crimsonjedi a taser can kill you idiot just set the taser to the highest voltage
If someone invades your home with a gun, and you face them with a baseball bat, who would win that, and are you gonna to wait for the police to arrive giving the criminal time to find and kill you
I want to laugh. I want to laugh so bad....
But the USA so far had proven me that no matter how stupid an idea may sound, you guys might just go through with it.
So, I just can't, for the life of me, take "arming teachers" as a joke. You are going to do it, aren't you? I pray that this one fucking time, you can stop that from actually happening. This one time.
Oh dude. I feel you. We have stopped some of the worst from happening. This one won't happen, it's too nuts. Stay incredulous.
Careful what you laugh at when we have the equivalent of a childish Joker with spray tan makeup in office. Regardless where you live it might get nuked.
He sent nuclear subs to Australia instead of N. Korea. Never underestimate the power of stupidity, that's the lesson we've learned anyway.
+Joy Gregory "This one won't happen, it's too nuts." That's what virtually _everyone_ said about Trump getting elected.
Only in the USA
Hi, Eurobro. Want to come over? I'll let you shoot my RPK. It's seriously mad fun.
Stupidity has no limits.
Or conscience apparently...
You: Stupidity has no limits.
America: hold my beer.
Who's posts would I personalize besides my own?
Next you can call me a bigot or something, both great ways to strike out when you have no actual argument to make. If the worst thing I do in my life before I die is make a grammatical mistake I'll die a happy man.
Un-fucking-believable.
I hear you.
Toob, you're a tool. Aren't you late for a klan meeting somewhere?
Actually thought the 'I hear you' was photoshopped at first. Then remembered it's Trump.