Yeah, I reckon they definitely suit a particular need and it's something I was looking for. After 4 months I can't fault this setup. I just hope I'm not tipping the scales with it... 😧
Thanks mate, it most definitely is my dream tourer, there's no doubt about that! Sounds like the weight video is a popular request, so might have to start figuring out where a weigh-bridge is around my area... Thanks again.
I have a Longranger diesel/water combo with a twin Kaymar on the back. Was lucky enough to buy the car with those on it already. Love the fuel range & the convenience of the water storage, brilliant for long trips up north. The water pump/flow meter is taking it to the next level. Well done.
Yeah, they sure are great products and I'm loving this new setup! Knowing how much water is left in the tank is definitely coming in handy! Cheers, Nathan.
Perfect, yes keeping that weight evenly distributed is definitely a good goal to have. I'm thinking I don't think the wife would be impressed if I suggested we leave our kids behind yet... haha. Cheers.
Agreed this was another great video. Good to see somebody with the smarts to really think through the options, their pro’s & cons. My last build (79 single cab) I had a monster Long Ranger Aux tank to replace the 90lt Toyota tank. It was a great tank. I never noticed any increased fuel consumption on driving around with it full v it empty. As the vehicle was touring full time it always weighed either 3500kg with that tank empty & about 3650kg with it full & there was just no noticeable difference in fuel consumption. I put it down to something shaped like a brick at 100km/h with set gearing was doing exactly the same thing at either weight. I did notice however, stop/start driving was where weight was noticeable in every way …..so I guess I’m trying to say, if you are travelling at highway speeds for a day (to get to a destination) it made virtually no difference consumption wise & it was great not having to hunt fuel in places I had no interest in stopping at. Having 55lts of drinking water underneath is the bees knees although I’d suggest on long or remote trips it might still be a good idea to carry one of those old 20lt Jerry’s inside as well.
Thanks mate, I've definitely been happy with the setup so far and it was worth all the deliberation before hand... I hear what you are saying and this makes sense. This will be good for when we hit the road in December 2022. Yes, I agree. I am hoping to do the CSR next year (if its open) and will be carrying a lot more water in addition to this tank. Chees, Nathan.
Another good video - I went a similar route to get advantage of on-board water when we travel without a trailer, with a few differences that might be of interest to fine tune your set up. - Check out the Frontrunner lockable water tap - its a ball valve mechanism and you can mount it in a position that gives good clearance to the tailgate and makes it accessible even when the wheel carrier is folded into storage position, for quickly washing hands on the go. You can also secure it if worried about leaks or tampering - To help with greasy hands and improve camp hygiene I cable tied a hand soap dispenser to back of the wheel carrier. - Rather than running the supplied fill hose I opted for a short hose under the rear, with male garden fitting on the spare NPT port - as well as giving me a gravity feed outlet it allows me to push the water into the tank for quicker fills - I looped a hose up behind the diesel filler as a tank breather, with gauze filter added to its end I'll send through some pics to explain further in case you're interested Cheers
G’day Nathan, excellent video and personalized information for your demand. Very nice setup too with the one spare wheel solution. As we can see your tires are next replacement project, recon your new van will run the same rims and tire size as the 200. Means 2 spare wheels fitted on the van rear. Sure can go solo and take the 2 nd spare wheel either on the roof rack or inside an move lighter bulky items to the roof rack. Going with 2 person, rear seat stay at home to make space or putting it into the van. Recon can’t double stack 2 wheels on your rw single carrier. Let us see what the “moment of truth” shows going on the weight bridge…new tires, full fuel and water tanks, all gear weights plus calculated 250kg ball weight, no person inside. Please keep modifying. sending…. PS. We want it all!!! Cheers
Thanks mate, I've been very happy with the current setup. Yes, the tyres are well and truely due for replacement and have been on order for some time now... hopefully replaced in the next week or two. I don't believe a second spare will fit on that carrier, given the size of these wheels and I don't believe the carrier is rated for that kind of weight either. Looks like I'll be going over the weigh bridge, seems to be a popular topic. Haha, I'm trying, but I'm getting heavy! Thanks again! Nathan.
I've had an ARB poly tank on my 200 for approx 2 years. Not being baffled has not bothered me at all. I find when filling the tank I will get flow back out of the filler pipe at some pressure. I stand to one side so I don't get covered in Diesel. I have learned to listen for the googling and let go of the trigger. And then start to top it up a small amount at a time just to get the last 10 lts in, which is bloody time-consuming. The fuel gauge took a while to work out. Have since got a Scan Gauge. I have an Explorer twin wheel carrier on the back. All up with 275 lts of fuel, 60 lts of water in bladders, tools, fridge, draws, spares the list goes on. The vehicle weighs in at 3750kgs. She got a GVM upgrade to 4015kgs. I get approx 2000ks on the blacktop and 1200 off-road. Hope this will help anyone looking at a Polly tank.
Awesome mate, thanks for sharing that and no doubt others will find this useful as well. Glad to hear that ARB tank is working out... and you managed to get it all in under GVM weight too. I'm not looking forward to the scale for my vehicle... Cheers, Nathan.
Slee Rear bumper for The 200 series is the best in the market hands-down. Made of course you had to give your business to an Australian company. In the USA we do the same thing most of the time. But I have to say I just had it installed on my rig and it is a work of art. It probably belongs in a museum for four-wheel-drive and not on the back of my Land Cruiser but just the same. The welds the functionality the quality is the best in the industry. I think other bumper companies try to emulate them. Do you have a great rig thanks for posting.
For sure, some great products over there. We are lucky here with the choices we have in Australia, but we certainly don't have everything... Glad you enjoyed it, cheers mate.
I've got a 2021 LC200 with a long ranger tank. Total fuel capacity 270lt. I get around 1500km towing my Drifta camper, or about 2200km without. Makes it easy to cover some country and buy fuel on cheap days...
Another great video - just looking at a long range tank for my 105 cruiser. Today I upgraded the rear coils to +500KG as t also have the caravan ball weight to contend with.
Thanks mate. I'm sure those 500kg springs are definitely going to make a difference and hopefully bring back some of that stock feel in the suspension with the additional weight. Cheer, Nathan.
I'm on the weight train video 😊 great video and very well considered. I am considering the frontier for the weight saving in the Ranger but still doing my own research and saving for the mods 🤑 keep up your 5 star channel and I am already looking forward to your CSR trip coverage 🍻🍻
Seems like the weight's are definitely a popular topic! Thanks mate, glad you're enjoying it! Here's hoping the CSR will be open and ready early/mid next year... Cheers
Hi Nathan in my opinion you have one of the best touring 200 series in Oz. Once again you have methodically thought through your options and implemented the best options for you and your family's needs. Another exceptional vid. Also I'm guessing you've put ~300 extra kgs on the cruiser with the new tanks, emu wing and wheel carrier. I'm thinking you may be close if not already looking another gvm upgrade. I'm keen for a follow up vid on the weights though. Cheers mate, Paul
Thanks mate, I'm glad you're enjoying the videos and appreciate the comments on the cruiser. It sure is the dream tourer for me and my family. Yes, there is going be some weight added and to be honest, I'm a little worried going over the weigh bridge, but it needs to be done. I'll get started on organising a video on the weights. Cheers.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. Seems like the weight video is going to be a popular request, I'll start looking at making that happen. Yes, the water tap is very handy and very convenient, something that will be used often! Cheers, Nathan.
I sure do mate. When spending hard earned cash on a these things, I want to get it right the first time and hopefully these videos help others with the same considerations. Cheers.
Superb video Nathan! Thank-you for sharing - you have saved me hours of research. I have a 2012 LC200 - GVM upgrade to 4015kg. Have a Long Ranger 122 diesel / 55 water combo scheduled for install this month. Love the tap & monitoring set up and am inspired to replicate. Have purchased some gear through your links - hopefully you still get a clip.
G'day Heath, thanks for the feedback. I'm glad this video could be of assistance. I am still extremely happy with my setup and the products I've chosen here. The access to water from that 55L tank via tap and pump has to be one of my all time favourite modifications to the LC200. Thanks mate, all the little tips go towards making more videos, so thank you 🙏
@@XploringOz A couple of Q's if you don't mind Nathan - 1) Fill point near air filter under bonnet - did you expand / extend the 13mm PEX to allow for easy filling? 2) How long does the gravity fill take? Assume that's where the breather is also? 3) What flex hose did you use to access the Kaymar section? Any leaks thus far?
@@heathLC200 No problems, I'll help out where I can. So the filler pipe is supplied with the tank and is about 25 or 32mm in diameter, so not a PEX style pipe. Its a reinforced PVC type pipe that I've covered in some split conduit for extra protection. Given the large filler pipe, it fills very quickly. I've never managed to fill it too fast, even filling direct from mains water supply. There is a breather, it's a flexible hose that goes up and around a cross member underneath the rear drivers side of the vehicle and then back down again. This does spill a little when the tank is completely full, but otherwise works without issue. The flex hose between the PEX hose is just a short section of a thick anti kink regular hose from Bunnings. I know it's not food grade, but it's working well and the have been no leaks throughout the system thus far! I hope this can answer your questions, more than happy to clarify if I've missed something. 👍
@@XploringOz Thank-you again _ My tank installation is scheduled at ARB (Head office in VIC) for Monday and I'm still getting my head around what comes with the tank and what I should source to complete the water pump & monitor installation - pretty sure I have most of it (maybe too much!) as I didn't realize the filling PVC type pipe came with the tank. I have read that spillage from the breather is an issue especially on rough tracks.
@@heathLC200 No problems at all. The tank will come with the filler and breather hoses and my ARB dealer installed that filler point in the engine bay, as shown in this video. I think it works well there as it keeps it lockable. Plenty of PEX piping, adaptors, a little flexi hose and I needed an adaptor between the tank outlet and the PEX fitting, but I really can't remember the size of the adaptor. I have seen a very little spillage from the breather. There is just a little when the tank is full, but not too much when a little has been used.
Thanks mate. So to be honest, I think the parking sensors still work, but I actually never use them, so I'm not sure. In regards to the camera, yes works perfectly. Because the camera on the 200 series is offset to the passenger side and I only opted for the single drivers side spare, it barely effects the vision. Cheers, Nathan.
Great clip mate, I wish Id thought about that stuff more when I bought my 200. I have 3.8TGVM upgrade (not enough lol) Kmar rear bar and swing aways, 180ltre long ranger tank amongst the other usual things. Last weight was 3.45T, Still lightening up a bit. The joys of not knowing at first lol. I too came from a GU with lots of gear and can relate. Have been thinking of removing the rear bar again and singe carrier like yours, just to lose some kgs. Thanks for sharing. Cheers Steve
Haha, yeah it doesn't take much to load these vehicles up, it really is unbelievable! Yes, I actually remember your GU patrol. I remember watching the 4WD action series and walkthrough of it when 4WD Action used to have the DVD's 😂 It was at the same time I had my GU Patrol too! Cheers Nathan.
Hey mate, I never managed to weigh the tanks empty, but there is no doubt that this tank is much heavier than the stock tank. The addition of this tank and all the weight that it holds when it is full has made a significant difference to the overall weight of the vehicle for sure.
Upon seeing this video and the Kaymar single tire carrier, I knew this was exactly what I have been looking for. It's unfortunate though that I reached out to Kaymar and they no longer sell this product. Bummer
Hmm, that's interesting. This must have been a very recent change. I only purchased this 4 months before I released the video and they didn't indicate or mention any discontinuation... I hope you are able to find an alternative in that case. Cheers, Nathan.
I have almost the same setup on my GX. Just about to fit the frontier tank, already had the kaymar wheel carrier. In the GX we can utilise the rear passenger quarter panel to install a 30litre water bladder. I love your tap on the wheel carrier idea so I’m going to steal that as I already have a pump. Love your work.
Nice mate, good choice in your setup then! Yes, the GX does have some good little storage areas that are lost with electronics on the other models, so good to see they are being used. For sure, I initially thought I was set on the Frontier tank due to the lower weight, but after some careful consideration, the Long Ranger won in my eyes. Thanks again mate, Nathan.
@@StephenKelly10 Yeah, everything is somewhat a matter of compromise, but as long as the product you choose works well for what you use it and the vehicle for, that's all that matters.
Cheers mate, at the moment, planning a Canning Stock Route trip, 1900km off-road with only 1 fuel stop (hopefully it's open next year). Cheers, Nathan.
I like the comparison and explanation of the choice process, you definitely research well!! The big rig is a Swiss Army knife now👌, we don’t have kids ,so it’s interesting to me the way we have the same end goal but slightly different set ups, eg: we went all fuel with the tank & with double kaymar (two Jerry’s and a spare) plus a 110lt fleximake bladder for the rear footwell for bigger trips. Another good vid Mate 👍
Thanks mate, glad you're enjoying the videos. Yes, I've been looking at those water bladders as well as I have a CSR trip planned for next year and apparently 2 weeks in the desert don't appeal to the family.... Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz I’m sure they’ll love it once you’re there😂, if they abandon you let me know and we can convoy 😁👍- my bladder is new but I’ve heard the durability is good.
@@stevemoyse6454 Haha, I guess we'll find out soon enough 😂 Yeah, I've heard good things about them too and the fact they pack up and out of the way when empty is a huge benefit!
hey Nath! Great video, i actually done the same thing a got myself a Single swing arm for my 200 as there was no where else to store! Quick question, where has that sensor disappeared to, did you get it relocated or is is removed and reprogrammed for 3 sensors?
Thanks mate, I'm very happy with the outcome. Yes, the sensor was removed and the system is still functioning correctly with the remaining three. I don't think it had to be reprogrammed for it though. Saying this, these sensors are not something that I regularly use anyway 👍
Thanks Nathan, that’s an awesome run-through. Interested in weights too, but also if you are intending to do the CSR. I think the fuel/water combo would suit me best (Goldfields and Gascoyne overlanding mainly), but with CSR on my bucket list I’m wrestling with going all fuel… That said, your water setup with the pump is very attractive. I can’t fit drawers (business case to buy the 200 was approved by the missus requiring all 7 seats stay in place :)) but may be able to hide a pump away underneath somewhere. Again big thanks, I’ve been looking forward to seeing your setup before I finalise my plans (incl. GVM upgrade) for my ‘15 Sahara. Cheers, Tim
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. Yes, the weight topic seems to be very popular and I'll be going over some scales to see exactly how much I have really added... despite the anxiety... Yes, I'm absolutely loving the water setup and originally I was actually planning on mourning the pump near that drivers side grommet behind the rear wheel for ease of plumbing, however I changed my mind after wanting to protect the pump for exposure to the elements, but I definitely believe it is possible. Cheers, Nathan.
Hey Nath, great content and good pros and cons. I am doing the same with my big girl and had the "unable to drain" as a number one reason not to go ARB tank. Kaymar bar looks good, and as per usual (in my location), the shops could not be bothered offering these up. I have one dealer that has literally stopped trying to get my business because I am asking too many questions of him. Questions he can't answer (they walk around with a headset on and seem to only want to answer the phone). How has the Uni filter gone after all of this time? I have one that I have not installed, and only because o am getting no dust past my paper filter (13000 km). This is an area I am still concerned with, as I have a mate with my exact vehicle - who replaced the standard airbox and the tuner told him that the airbox he got is not good, and he says that the 'dusting issue' is due to operators NOT closing the airbox with all latches. His comment and others that have driven 200 series since they came out 2007, have said similar things. I have also heard the 150 does the same thing; of which I also had zero issues in five years of owning one. Thoughts???
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video. Yes the inability to drain was certainly a big negative. I can see why ARB has done this, as adding a bung will severely effect the structural integrity of the unit, however this is the trade off in the end. That is very poor form from your local dealers and they definitely don't deserve your business. I hope you are able to find another good fitter in your area to help you out. Yes, my experience with the UniFilter is still positive, no visible dust on the clean side or the intake pipes. As a result, I'm going to continue to run until Donaldson release their aftermarket box, which will probably be mid-next year. Yes, the sealing issue is a rumour going around, but as you may have picked, I'm very particular with my gear. I check the seals after a service and I can guarantee you that my air filter was installed correctly and wasn't 'pinched'. I still had dust passing my box without a doubt. I know there are risks associated with the UniFilter, however I just can't sit back and watch my intake fill up with the standard filter. In regards to the Prado 150 series, I didn't have an issue at all with my pre-face lift either, however I have heard of people having issues with some of the newer units .Again, don't have personal experience with it, just what I've heard going around. Cheers, Nathan.
hi you have an amazing amzing build LC 200 beast , could you tell more information about the Kemar rear buyer is it the model K20010R ? how to buy it ? as on the website they dont show any thing to buy it
Thanks mate! I bought the rear bar from ARB in Perth. I believe they were, of at least used to be stockist for Kaymar, however I have heard that they might not stock them anymore. It might help to get in contact with Kaymar to see who stocks and fits these units. Cheers, Nathan.
Great video, as it covers off on so many of those challenges that we face. I suppose the one question that I have is that if you require to carry a second spare, as you would in the case of doing a rough offroad trip (Canning Stock Route), would you carry just a tyre or a whole wheel and tyre on the roof, which then limits what you can carry up there and presents challenges with weights being carried on the rack? Interested to hear what your overall weight is now.
For sure, there are many compromises that have to be made when fitting this much weight to a vehicle. So in regards to your question, I'm actually currently planning a CSR trip for next year (pending the track opening) and my plan is to carry a tyre alone on the roof, without a wheel. Yes, this will determine how much I can carry on the rack, but this trip will only be my dad and I, so I'll have a bit more room in the vehicle. (apparently 2 weeks in the desert doesn't appeal to the family....) I'll get onto documenting a video regarding the weights. Cheers, Nathan.
@@michaelhermans4753 For sure and with the right knowledge and tools between the convoy, which should be looking good 👍 It's not the easiest, but here's hoping we won't need it anyway...
Great video Nath! Perfectly explained, I had a very similar setup on my previous 4wd but I decided not to install it on my current 200, I guess we've got different needs. There are always so manu pros and cons to consider when setting up a 4wd and your videos for sure will help many people in making the right decisions, good on ya! Let us know how much your 200 weights when pack and ready to travel. Thanks
Thanks mate, appreciate it. For sure, everyone has different needs, hence why there are soo many products and variations on the market. World would be so boring if we were all the same 😂 I'll try and get something together on the weights! Thanks again.
Nath. Glad there's your movement away from a 'Three Letter' 4wd God over here ! Is it getting close to your perfect setup, or is an LC300 GR Sport on your future wanted list to take a new adventure ? V.
Sure is getting close to a perfect setup. There isn't too much more to do in terms of big items, there are a few small tweaks here and there I want to fix up, but overall it certainly has become the perfect vehicle for our family. I do like the look of the GR sport and the technology it comes with. I am a little concerned with the weights of the new cruisers, being little less that the 200's, which I've already run into issues with. To be honest though, with the price tag and my great vehicle, I won't be selling anytime soon. Cheers, Nathan.
Really like this setup! I've been looking for this kaymar tire carrier for some time, as most of the info is related to the full bumper setup. Will it fit 2015+ VX trims? Where can I find it stocked? Thanks!
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video. So the Kaymar bar is available from any ARB stockist as they are the service agents in Aus. It should fit easily into a 2015 VX no problems. Cheers, Nathan.
Another awesome vid. I get my Longranger installed next week, did you use John Guest fitting or an alternate? Did you buy a kit or use the bunnings equivalent? Thanks mate 👍
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. So I used a PEX system from Bunnings. I just bought the junctions required and the matching 16mm hoses. It's a similar system to John Guest Fittings, just a different size and brand. Cheers, Nathan.
Great vid. I noticed u had a GU. I currently have a GU but for years really wanted a 200 but covid tax forced me to look for alternative (GU). I love 4wd,ing but also love touring and towing 3t outback van. Offroad, is the 200 as good as the GU? Would be nice to have the V8 pulling power up Hills, GU struggles a little with 3t. Love the water pump and tap set up. Cheers.
Hey mate, yeah I had a '09 GU auto. It was a good 4WD, although the wife might say different. Something was always breaking down. To be honest, the 200 is a beast. Obviously power wise it blows the GU out of the water and capability, well the 200 goes further without lockers. The GU was fairly capable, but the 200, particularly the Sahara and VX variants have mutlitaerrain select which is unbelievable off-road and I've only been stuck a handful of times. For what I do, the 200 wins hands down. The only thing I don't like with the 200 is the from suspension (CV axles). I'm on my 3rd front drivers side axle now... 😩
G'day Nathan was looking at those wheel carriers but am concerned as to possible issues while having the caravan hooked up ,did you consider that and were there any problems,cheers mate great review thanks again.
Yeah, so problems with vans could be an issue, but this would be depending on individual setups. Because I run a decent lift, I use a drop hitch, which keeps the tow ball and associated parts out of the way. My new van has also been ordered with an extended drawbar which helps with room at the rear of the vehicle. Cheers, Nathan.
G'day mate, so I got my setup fitted at ARB Wangara. To date these guys have been the most knowledgeable and helpful with all my queries. I fitted the pump and plumbing myself though... Cheers, Nathan.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback. So I can't confirm if the reverse sensors work, I just don't use them.... ever. I have been told they do (obviously minus the one that had be removed) but like I said can't confirm. Yes the reverse camera works perfectly. On the 200 series the reverse camera is offset to the passenger side and the signal drivers side tyre carrier barely interferes at all. Cheers, Nathan.
Man this is going to be one heavy 200, even more so if you dump a van on the back. Your 4t gvm upgrade might not be enough!! Maybe you should get a 4x4 truck instead. Great video as always Nath. well researched and thought over but starting to wonder if you've got the right vehicle. You are asking a lot of this one.
Yeah, I guess the positive here is that I'm aware of it and will make sure that I'm legal and safe when I hit the road. I'll get onto documenting the weights and see how we pull up. I actually did come very, very close to buying a dedicated truck setup, however a truck just wouldn't get to the places I go. I love my tight a technical driving... Cheers,
Cheers mate. Yes it has been a great system so far and very happy with how it's turned out. Negative on the water heater, there is not heater in this system... yet anyway. Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz I didnt mean a heater as such. i was refering to the return fuel from the engine heating the fuel and in tern heating the water in the tank
@@tapwater9843 Sorry, probably should have read the comment properly 🤦♂️ So it hasn't been effected as much as I though it would have. Although it does get a little warmer, there is no doubt that higher ambient temperature has a much bigger effect on the water temp. Cheers, Nathan.
Hey mate, not that I've noticed. I'm not really someone who is fussy on water, but I'm definitely happy to drink the water coming from the tank (obviously filtered with food grade hoses to fill). Cheers.
@@XploringOz gday Nathan! Was wondering if you had any adjustment recommendations for the bp51 comp. and rebound no.s?? Same car with the OME 4015 gvm, bps and 400kg constant rear springs. Tow a roughly 3t van. Any suggestions would be muchly appreciated! Cheers👍
@@brad69rambler Hey mate, so to be completely honest, I'm still playing around with the 'perfect' settings at the moment. I'm generally running on the stiffer side. Running the compression about 2 numbers higher than the rebound. This seems to work well, but obviously it would depend how heavy your vehicle is and the terrain you are driving as too how high you set them. I'm set right up the top end at the moment, but probably a little too stiff for an empty vehicle. Cheers.
@@brad69rambler Yeah, unfortunately that's probably the only and best way to setup it up. Its all worth it when you get it just right from your vehicle though!
Hey Nathan Can I please ask what it cost for rear wheel carrier installed. I got a 2020 Gxl and got told I'll lose the rear sensor and to go a rear bar instead. Now I'm thinking I can go without rear sensor as I haven't needed one in all my driving life anyway, and planning on keeping the vehicle for the next 15 yrs or so. I'm leaning towards going the same way you have. Extra weight is an issue for me to and don't tow anything. Cheers m8, and great video.
Hey mate, so from memory I believe it was around the $2500 mark (give or take a little). I'm still happy with the choice and the functionality of this system. Yes, I guess it would render the sensors ineffective as the carrier covers one up on the drivers side, however I too have never used them prior and don't really mind if they don't work. Weight was the biggest influence for me and this still has to be one of the best weight/convenience solutions to date. I actually have a video coming out next Thursday regarding the weight of the cruiser, so that may be one interest to you? Cheers, Nathan
For sure mate, I'll start looking at getting onto documenting the new weights on the cruiser. Bit scared to see the results though to be honest, but it has to be done... Cheers, Nathan.
Hey Nathan. What are your thoughts on duel jerry can holder and swing away wheel carrier on factory bar. I can get the jerry can holder for $200. Will it work in your opinion on factory bar
Hey mate, yeah I've always liked that idea too and I think it would work no problems. I didn't go for it as I just don't need, especially given that I'll have the trailer soon which can carry more of my gear. Cheers.
Hey mate, as briefly mention in the video, the fuel gauge own't perform like it did form factory, there really isn't much we can do about this. I have however noticed that the distance to empty, although inaccurate when the tank is full, will still come down with the tank level until it's empty. So it becomes more accurate as the level is lower, if that makes sense. Yes, the reverse camera works perfectly. The 200 series camera is slightly offset to the passenger side and the single carrier on the drivers side barely has any effect whatsoever. Cheers, Nathan.
Gday, I'm getting one of these pumps, the manual says don't use rigid piping (maybe just to cover themselves) have you had any issue with leaks or pump issues with the smartex stuff?
Hey mate, to be honest did read that 😂 I personally had no dramas with my system, both in the vehicle or in the 12V portable box I built previously using the same material. Cheers, Nathan.
Love to know the weight after, knowing that I have an 2016 VX, recently weighed with just driver and it’s 3430kg’s. Loaded with half tank 3 kids and all the fruit it came in at 3840kg with a GVM of 3800.
Yeah man, I hear you. The weights add up soo quickly. I'll get onto documenting the weights on this cruiser, although I'm a little worried to see the results.... Cheers, Nathan.
Hmm, I have heard rumours that they may have discontinued this bar, but I would probably check with your local ARB dealer as they are the stockist for Kaymar. I'm sure they have the most up to date info around at the moment. Cheers, Nathan.
G'day Nathan. Definitely would love to see the impact the new mods will have to the Cruiser. With the extra weight ( when both tanks are full ) plus the tow ball weight once you get your van, that feels like its a lot of additional weight to the back. What potential impact will it have on steering if any ? Great video and it makes me wonder at times that I may have fallen for the hype in that I need every mod .... well, of course I don't. Thanks again
Seems like the weight issue is definitely a popular topic and I'll be going over the weigh bridge soon enough to see how I'm going, despite the anxiety... I haven't noticed any steering impact, but I do believe this is largely due to the adjustable rear suspension airbags, which help re-distribute some of the weight back to the front axle. Hey, the most important thing is that you are happy with the setup you have, it's never about comparing with others. I probably go a little overboard with my gear, both for the purposes of TH-cam to compare and review, but also because I enjoyed the process so much (against the will of my bank account...) Thanks again Jim, hope things are still going well for you on the road. Cheers.
Things are going well at the moment. We’re in The Alice and just witnessed the Todd River flowing. Never seen it before. We have weight issues with our setup that I have been trying to resolve since the organisation sold me the van. Talk about a steep learning curve. Cheers mate and stay safe
@@overlandphotography Very cool. I saw some footage from that, but it would have been something else to see in person! Yes, weights are that monster in the closet that most people just want to ignore as it's hard to deal with. All the best your your setup, let me know if I can be of any help at all.
Hey mate, so the Kaymar products are available from most (if not all) ARB stockists. I personally got my one from ARB Wangara (Western Australia) and it cost around the $2000 mark fitted. It's not the most popular item that Kaymar have, so stockists normally have to order it in, so it could take some time and is something to consider. Cheers, Nathan.
I'm still loving the benefits of this tank. The extra diesel can be helpful for those long trips, but this combination tank is performing well and proving very useful 👍
@@XploringOz It is a great product. I fitted mine in 2012 and have no problem. At the time in Southern Africa getting quality fuel was a challenge in remote places hence I went with 180L. If I recall the 122/55 L was 15/16 kg heavier than 180L tank. Anyway my setup is pretty stable, I have capacity to carry 80L water plus 270 L diesel so no chance of changing.
@@boymeetsbush8232 Very nice, sounds like a great setup! Yes, I can believe this tank is a little heavier, there is no doubt more weight in the double skin between the tanks 👍
@@michaelhermans4753 Haha, good payload, but I couldn't bring myself to do it... Don't know how you would go about getting parts in the desert for those...
@@grahameroberts8109 I doubt it, but then again the ECU isn't really the type of spare I was referring too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not brand loyal to any manufacturer. I buy the best vehicle (or anything for that matter) that suits my requirements. Having worked in remote regional towns of Western Australia for the last 10 years it cannot be argued that Toyota's are the easiest to find parts/spares for. Hence the phrase 'Landcruiser Country'. This doesn't mean that others can't be sourced, or that a Landcruiser will be fixed in a day, what this means is that its more likely that you will be able to find your part, or at least access the part quicker and easier with a Toyota then most other manufactures. To be honest if something happened to my cruiser, my replacement vehicle wouldn't be a Toyota, simply because of the high price and this therefore doesn't meet my requirements, however I guarantee it wouldn't be a defender... Everyone has their own requirements, but living and working in remote areas with dependents, I'm always going to choose a manufacturer that gives me the highest chance of survival and the ability to continue on my adventure and that is without a doubt, Toyota.
Exactly same tank I fitted to my 200 last year, along with the kaymar single wheel carrier. Great choice mate 👍🏽
Yeah, I reckon they definitely suit a particular need and it's something I was looking for. After 4 months I can't fault this setup. I just hope I'm not tipping the scales with it... 😧
As normal, extremely professionally done. I don’t have a LC but still love your content.
Awesome, cheers mate. I appreciate the support 👍
Would love to see what impact the upgrade has on the weights. Great content as per usual!!!
For sure, I think I’m definitely going to have to report on the new weights. Could be a concern though… 😬
Compliments on the content again Nathan! That cruiser is a dream tourer mate.. please do the current weight video. Cheers mate 🤙🏼
Thanks mate, it most definitely is my dream tourer, there's no doubt about that!
Sounds like the weight video is a popular request, so might have to start figuring out where a weigh-bridge is around my area...
Thanks again.
Always great to watch your videos.very informative for all land cruiser owners and other 4 wheel drive travellers. Thanks for sharing.👍
Cheers mate, I appreciate that. Glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers.
I have a Longranger diesel/water combo with a twin Kaymar on the back. Was lucky enough to buy the car with those on it already. Love the fuel range & the convenience of the water storage, brilliant for long trips up north. The water pump/flow meter is taking it to the next level. Well done.
Yeah, they sure are great products and I'm loving this new setup! Knowing how much water is left in the tank is definitely coming in handy!
Cheers, Nathan.
I remove the back seats in my patrol for water, generator and fuel
Keeps the weight low and central
It’s just the two of us as the kids have moved out
Perfect, yes keeping that weight evenly distributed is definitely a good goal to have.
I'm thinking I don't think the wife would be impressed if I suggested we leave our kids behind yet... haha.
Cheers.
Agreed this was another great video. Good to see somebody with the smarts to really think through the options, their pro’s & cons.
My last build (79 single cab) I had a monster Long Ranger Aux tank to replace the 90lt Toyota tank. It was a great tank. I never noticed any increased fuel consumption on driving around with it full v it empty. As the vehicle was touring full time it always weighed either 3500kg with that tank empty & about 3650kg with it full & there was just no noticeable difference in fuel consumption. I put it down to something shaped like a brick at 100km/h with set gearing was doing exactly the same thing at either weight. I did notice however, stop/start driving was where weight was noticeable in every way …..so I guess I’m trying to say, if you are travelling at highway speeds for a day (to get to a destination) it made virtually no difference consumption wise & it was great not having to hunt fuel in places I had no interest in stopping at.
Having 55lts of drinking water underneath is the bees knees although I’d suggest on long or remote trips it might still be a good idea to carry one of those old 20lt Jerry’s inside as well.
Thanks mate, I've definitely been happy with the setup so far and it was worth all the deliberation before hand...
I hear what you are saying and this makes sense. This will be good for when we hit the road in December 2022.
Yes, I agree. I am hoping to do the CSR next year (if its open) and will be carrying a lot more water in addition to this tank.
Chees, Nathan.
Your rig and setup is AMAZING!!! Thanks for sharing 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks mate, appreciate it. Glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers, Nathan.
Another good video - I went a similar route to get advantage of on-board water when we travel without a trailer, with a few differences that might be of interest to fine tune your set up.
- Check out the Frontrunner lockable water tap - its a ball valve mechanism and you can mount it in a position that gives good clearance to the tailgate and makes it accessible even when the wheel carrier is folded into storage position, for quickly washing hands on the go. You can also secure it if worried about leaks or tampering
- To help with greasy hands and improve camp hygiene I cable tied a hand soap dispenser to back of the wheel carrier.
- Rather than running the supplied fill hose I opted for a short hose under the rear, with male garden fitting on the spare NPT port - as well as giving me a gravity feed outlet it allows me to push the water into the tank for quicker fills - I looped a hose up behind the diesel filler as a tank breather, with gauze filter added to its end
I'll send through some pics to explain further in case you're interested
Cheers
Thanks Shane, I've replied to your message.
Appreciate the info.
Cheers, Nathan.
G’day Nathan,
excellent video and personalized information for your demand.
Very nice setup too with the one spare wheel solution.
As we can see your tires are next replacement project, recon your new van will run the same rims and tire size as the 200. Means 2 spare wheels fitted on the van rear. Sure can go solo and take the 2 nd spare wheel either on the roof rack or inside an move lighter bulky items to the roof rack. Going with 2 person, rear seat stay at home to make space or putting it into the van. Recon can’t double stack 2 wheels on your rw single carrier.
Let us see what the “moment of truth” shows going on the weight bridge…new tires, full fuel and water tanks, all gear weights plus calculated 250kg ball weight, no person inside. Please keep modifying. sending….
PS. We want it all!!! Cheers
Thanks mate, I've been very happy with the current setup.
Yes, the tyres are well and truely due for replacement and have been on order for some time now... hopefully replaced in the next week or two.
I don't believe a second spare will fit on that carrier, given the size of these wheels and I don't believe the carrier is rated for that kind of weight either.
Looks like I'll be going over the weigh bridge, seems to be a popular topic.
Haha, I'm trying, but I'm getting heavy!
Thanks again! Nathan.
Your videos are super informative mate. Well done and thanks for sharing 👍🏼
I've had an ARB poly tank on my 200 for approx 2 years. Not being baffled has not bothered me at all. I find when filling the tank I will get flow back out of the filler pipe at some pressure. I stand to one side so I don't get covered in Diesel. I have learned to listen for the googling and let go of the trigger. And then start to top it up a small amount at a time just to get the last 10 lts in, which is bloody time-consuming. The fuel gauge took a while to work out. Have since got a Scan Gauge. I have an Explorer twin wheel carrier on the back. All up with 275 lts of fuel, 60 lts of water in bladders, tools, fridge, draws, spares the list goes on. The vehicle weighs in at 3750kgs. She got a GVM upgrade to 4015kgs. I get approx 2000ks on the blacktop and 1200 off-road. Hope this will help anyone looking at a Polly tank.
Awesome mate, thanks for sharing that and no doubt others will find this useful as well.
Glad to hear that ARB tank is working out... and you managed to get it all in under GVM weight too. I'm not looking forward to the scale for my vehicle...
Cheers, Nathan.
Slee Rear bumper for The 200 series is the best in the market hands-down. Made of course you had to give your business to an Australian company. In the USA we do the same thing most of the time.
But I have to say I just had it installed on my rig and it is a work of art. It probably belongs in a museum for four-wheel-drive and not on the back of my Land Cruiser but just the same. The welds the functionality the quality is the best in the industry. I think other bumper companies try to emulate them. Do you have a great rig thanks for posting.
For sure, some great products over there. We are lucky here with the choices we have in Australia, but we certainly don't have everything...
Glad you enjoyed it, cheers mate.
I've got a 2021 LC200 with a long ranger tank. Total fuel capacity 270lt. I get around 1500km towing my Drifta camper, or about 2200km without. Makes it easy to cover some country and buy fuel on cheap days...
For sure, they have many benefits and definitely a great advantage when fuel is expensive or the quality is questionable....
Cheers, Nathan.
Another great video - just looking at a long range tank for my 105 cruiser. Today I upgraded the rear coils to +500KG as t also have the caravan ball weight to contend with.
Thanks mate. I'm sure those 500kg springs are definitely going to make a difference and hopefully bring back some of that stock feel in the suspension with the additional weight.
Cheer, Nathan.
I'm on the weight train video 😊 great video and very well considered. I am considering the frontier for the weight saving in the Ranger but still doing my own research and saving for the mods 🤑 keep up your 5 star channel and I am already looking forward to your CSR trip coverage 🍻🍻
Seems like the weight's are definitely a popular topic!
Thanks mate, glad you're enjoying it! Here's hoping the CSR will be open and ready early/mid next year...
Cheers
Very well put together, explained, and appreciate your reasoning for your personal choices. Goes into my saved files so I can refer to it again.
That’s great to hear, thanks for the feedback mate 👍
Cheers.
Hi Nathan in my opinion you have one of the best touring 200 series in Oz. Once again you have methodically thought through your options and implemented the best options for you and your family's needs. Another exceptional vid. Also I'm guessing you've put ~300 extra kgs on the cruiser with the new tanks, emu wing and wheel carrier. I'm thinking you may be close if not already looking another gvm upgrade. I'm keen for a follow up vid on the weights though. Cheers mate, Paul
Thanks mate, I'm glad you're enjoying the videos and appreciate the comments on the cruiser. It sure is the dream tourer for me and my family.
Yes, there is going be some weight added and to be honest, I'm a little worried going over the weigh bridge, but it needs to be done. I'll get started on organising a video on the weights.
Cheers.
Great video and commentary behind your decision process! An update on vehicle weight would be great to see. Love your water tap set up!!
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it.
Seems like the weight video is going to be a popular request, I'll start looking at making that happen.
Yes, the water tap is very handy and very convenient, something that will be used often!
Cheers, Nathan.
Wow you put a considerable amount for forethought into your Cruiser, Impressive :)
I sure do mate. When spending hard earned cash on a these things, I want to get it right the first time and hopefully these videos help others with the same considerations.
Cheers.
Mate I love your vids. You put so much thought into everything you do. Keep them coming.
Cheers mate, I’m glad people enjoy them and get some value from them. Much appreciated, Nathan.
Water system is brilliant mate 👍
Thanks mate, I'm loving it too. So easy and convenient.
Cheers, Nathan.
Superb video Nathan! Thank-you for sharing - you have saved me hours of research. I have a 2012 LC200 - GVM upgrade to 4015kg. Have a Long Ranger 122 diesel / 55 water combo scheduled for install this month. Love the tap & monitoring set up and am inspired to replicate. Have purchased some gear through your links - hopefully you still get a clip.
G'day Heath, thanks for the feedback. I'm glad this video could be of assistance. I am still extremely happy with my setup and the products I've chosen here. The access to water from that 55L tank via tap and pump has to be one of my all time favourite modifications to the LC200.
Thanks mate, all the little tips go towards making more videos, so thank you 🙏
@@XploringOz A couple of Q's if you don't mind Nathan - 1) Fill point near air filter under bonnet - did you expand / extend the 13mm PEX to allow for easy filling? 2) How long does the gravity fill take? Assume that's where the breather is also? 3) What flex hose did you use to access the Kaymar section? Any leaks thus far?
@@heathLC200 No problems, I'll help out where I can. So the filler pipe is supplied with the tank and is about 25 or 32mm in diameter, so not a PEX style pipe. Its a reinforced PVC type pipe that I've covered in some split conduit for extra protection. Given the large filler pipe, it fills very quickly. I've never managed to fill it too fast, even filling direct from mains water supply.
There is a breather, it's a flexible hose that goes up and around a cross member underneath the rear drivers side of the vehicle and then back down again. This does spill a little when the tank is completely full, but otherwise works without issue.
The flex hose between the PEX hose is just a short section of a thick anti kink regular hose from Bunnings. I know it's not food grade, but it's working well and the have been no leaks throughout the system thus far!
I hope this can answer your questions, more than happy to clarify if I've missed something. 👍
@@XploringOz Thank-you again _ My tank installation is scheduled at ARB (Head office in VIC) for Monday and I'm still getting my head around what comes with the tank and what I should source to complete the water pump & monitor installation - pretty sure I have most of it (maybe too much!) as I didn't realize the filling PVC type pipe came with the tank. I have read that spillage from the breather is an issue especially on rough tracks.
@@heathLC200 No problems at all. The tank will come with the filler and breather hoses and my ARB dealer installed that filler point in the engine bay, as shown in this video. I think it works well there as it keeps it lockable. Plenty of PEX piping, adaptors, a little flexi hose and I needed an adaptor between the tank outlet and the PEX fitting, but I really can't remember the size of the adaptor.
I have seen a very little spillage from the breather. There is just a little when the tank is full, but not too much when a little has been used.
Great vid 👍 Question though, do the remaining park sensors still work and what does the rear camera image look like now?
Thanks mate. So to be honest, I think the parking sensors still work, but I actually never use them, so I'm not sure. In regards to the camera, yes works perfectly. Because the camera on the 200 series is offset to the passenger side and I only opted for the single drivers side spare, it barely effects the vision.
Cheers, Nathan.
Great clip mate, I wish Id thought about that stuff more when I bought my 200. I have 3.8TGVM upgrade (not enough lol) Kmar rear bar and swing aways, 180ltre long ranger tank amongst the other usual things. Last weight was 3.45T, Still lightening up a bit. The joys of not knowing at first lol. I too came from a GU with lots of gear and can relate. Have been thinking of removing the rear bar again and singe carrier like yours, just to lose some kgs. Thanks for sharing. Cheers Steve
Haha, yeah it doesn't take much to load these vehicles up, it really is unbelievable!
Yes, I actually remember your GU patrol. I remember watching the 4WD action series and walkthrough of it when 4WD Action used to have the DVD's 😂 It was at the same time I had my GU Patrol too!
Cheers Nathan.
Interesting discussion. As you said, everything is a compromise. I’d be keen to see the new weight.
For sure, I'll get onto a weight video soon, but to be honest I'm getting a little worried....
Cheers.
@@XploringOz steel is heavy, but the biggest killer will be the water/diesel itself.
@@FloydBromley Absolutely, hence why I try and travel day to day around town with half a tank. Keep that weight down when it's not needed.
Would be good to see what the difference in weight is after tank was installed as I’m considering it.
Hey mate, I never managed to weigh the tanks empty, but there is no doubt that this tank is much heavier than the stock tank.
The addition of this tank and all the weight that it holds when it is full has made a significant difference to the overall weight of the vehicle for sure.
Upon seeing this video and the Kaymar single tire carrier, I knew this was exactly what I have been looking for. It's unfortunate though that I reached out to Kaymar and they no longer sell this product. Bummer
Hmm, that's interesting. This must have been a very recent change. I only purchased this 4 months before I released the video and they didn't indicate or mention any discontinuation...
I hope you are able to find an alternative in that case.
Cheers, Nathan.
I have almost the same setup on my GX. Just about to fit the frontier tank, already had the kaymar wheel carrier. In the GX we can utilise the rear passenger quarter panel to install a 30litre water bladder. I love your tap on the wheel carrier idea so I’m going to steal that as I already have a pump. Love your work.
And weight is my main factor, even with a gvm upgrade and a bigger payload from factory with the GX. The frontier tank is only 22kg!,
Nice mate, good choice in your setup then! Yes, the GX does have some good little storage areas that are lost with electronics on the other models, so good to see they are being used.
For sure, I initially thought I was set on the Frontier tank due to the lower weight, but after some careful consideration, the Long Ranger won in my eyes.
Thanks again mate, Nathan.
@@XploringOz yeah mate, I had to think long and hard myself. The longranger tank is proven and the water tank version is pretty appealing.
@@StephenKelly10 Yeah, everything is somewhat a matter of compromise, but as long as the product you choose works well for what you use it and the vehicle for, that's all that matters.
Really well done mate in your build and also the level of video production. Great info
Thanks mate 👍 glad you enjoyed it.
I like the spare wheel carrier not so ugly good vid
Yeah, it definitely serves a purpose and isn't as bad as some people make it out to be.
Cheers, Nathan.
Excellent video. I’m intrigued as to where your going that requires that much fuel. Is it the Simpson?
Cheers mate, at the moment, planning a Canning Stock Route trip, 1900km off-road with only 1 fuel stop (hopefully it's open next year).
Cheers, Nathan.
I like the comparison and explanation of the choice process, you definitely research well!! The big rig is a Swiss Army knife now👌, we don’t have kids ,so it’s interesting to me the way we have the same end goal but slightly different set ups, eg: we went all fuel with the tank & with double kaymar (two Jerry’s and a spare) plus a 110lt fleximake bladder for the rear footwell for bigger trips. Another good vid Mate 👍
Thanks mate, glad you're enjoying the videos.
Yes, I've been looking at those water bladders as well as I have a CSR trip planned for next year and apparently 2 weeks in the desert don't appeal to the family....
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz I’m sure they’ll love it once you’re there😂, if they abandon you let me know and we can convoy 😁👍- my bladder is new but I’ve heard the durability is good.
@@stevemoyse6454 Haha, I guess we'll find out soon enough 😂 Yeah, I've heard good things about them too and the fact they pack up and out of the way when empty is a huge benefit!
hey Nath! Great video, i actually done the same thing a got myself a Single swing arm for my 200 as there was no where else to store! Quick question, where has that sensor disappeared to, did you get it relocated or is is removed and reprogrammed for 3 sensors?
Thanks mate, I'm very happy with the outcome.
Yes, the sensor was removed and the system is still functioning correctly with the remaining three. I don't think it had to be reprogrammed for it though. Saying this, these sensors are not something that I regularly use anyway 👍
Thanks Nathan, that’s an awesome run-through. Interested in weights too, but also if you are intending to do the CSR. I think the fuel/water combo would suit me best (Goldfields and Gascoyne overlanding mainly), but with CSR on my bucket list I’m wrestling with going all fuel… That said, your water setup with the pump is very attractive. I can’t fit drawers (business case to buy the 200 was approved by the missus requiring all 7 seats stay in place :)) but may be able to hide a pump away underneath somewhere. Again big thanks, I’ve been looking forward to seeing your setup before I finalise my plans (incl. GVM upgrade) for my ‘15 Sahara. Cheers, Tim
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. Yes, the weight topic seems to be very popular and I'll be going over some scales to see exactly how much I have really added... despite the anxiety...
Yes, I'm absolutely loving the water setup and originally I was actually planning on mourning the pump near that drivers side grommet behind the rear wheel for ease of plumbing, however I changed my mind after wanting to protect the pump for exposure to the elements, but I definitely believe it is possible.
Cheers, Nathan.
Hey Nath, great content and good pros and cons. I am doing the same with my big girl and had the "unable to drain" as a number one reason not to go ARB tank. Kaymar bar looks good, and as per usual (in my location), the shops could not be bothered offering these up. I have one dealer that has literally stopped trying to get my business because I am asking too many questions of him. Questions he can't answer (they walk around with a headset on and seem to only want to answer the phone). How has the Uni filter gone after all of this time? I have one that I have not installed, and only because o am getting no dust past my paper filter (13000 km). This is an area I am still concerned with, as I have a mate with my exact vehicle - who replaced the standard airbox and the tuner told him that the airbox he got is not good, and he says that the 'dusting issue' is due to operators NOT closing the airbox with all latches. His comment and others that have driven 200 series since they came out 2007, have said similar things. I have also heard the 150 does the same thing; of which I also had zero issues in five years of owning one. Thoughts???
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video.
Yes the inability to drain was certainly a big negative. I can see why ARB has done this, as adding a bung will severely effect the structural integrity of the unit, however this is the trade off in the end.
That is very poor form from your local dealers and they definitely don't deserve your business. I hope you are able to find another good fitter in your area to help you out.
Yes, my experience with the UniFilter is still positive, no visible dust on the clean side or the intake pipes. As a result, I'm going to continue to run until Donaldson release their aftermarket box, which will probably be mid-next year.
Yes, the sealing issue is a rumour going around, but as you may have picked, I'm very particular with my gear. I check the seals after a service and I can guarantee you that my air filter was installed correctly and wasn't 'pinched'. I still had dust passing my box without a doubt.
I know there are risks associated with the UniFilter, however I just can't sit back and watch my intake fill up with the standard filter.
In regards to the Prado 150 series, I didn't have an issue at all with my pre-face lift either, however I have heard of people having issues with some of the newer units .Again, don't have personal experience with it, just what I've heard going around.
Cheers, Nathan.
hi you have an amazing amzing build LC 200 beast , could you tell more information about the Kemar rear buyer is it the model K20010R ? how to buy it ?
as on the website they dont show any thing to buy it
Thanks mate!
I bought the rear bar from ARB in Perth. I believe they were, of at least used to be stockist for Kaymar, however I have heard that they might not stock them anymore.
It might help to get in contact with Kaymar to see who stocks and fits these units.
Cheers, Nathan.
Great video, as it covers off on so many of those challenges that we face. I suppose the one question that I have is that if you require to carry a second spare, as you would in the case of doing a rough offroad trip (Canning Stock Route), would you carry just a tyre or a whole wheel and tyre on the roof, which then limits what you can carry up there and presents challenges with weights being carried on the rack? Interested to hear what your overall weight is now.
For sure, there are many compromises that have to be made when fitting this much weight to a vehicle.
So in regards to your question, I'm actually currently planning a CSR trip for next year (pending the track opening) and my plan is to carry a tyre alone on the roof, without a wheel.
Yes, this will determine how much I can carry on the rack, but this trip will only be my dad and I, so I'll have a bit more room in the vehicle. (apparently 2 weeks in the desert doesn't appeal to the family....)
I'll get onto documenting a video regarding the weights.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz good idea all you need are some tyre levers and a bit of practice
@@michaelhermans4753 For sure and with the right knowledge and tools between the convoy, which should be looking good 👍 It's not the easiest, but here's hoping we won't need it anyway...
Great video Nath!
Perfectly explained, I had a very similar setup on my previous 4wd but I decided not to install it on my current 200, I guess we've got different needs.
There are always so manu pros and cons to consider when setting up a 4wd and your videos for sure will help many people in making the right decisions, good on ya!
Let us know how much your 200 weights when pack and ready to travel.
Thanks
Thanks mate, appreciate it.
For sure, everyone has different needs, hence why there are soo many products and variations on the market. World would be so boring if we were all the same 😂
I'll try and get something together on the weights!
Thanks again.
Awesome vid mate. Thanks for doing the hard yards. Looking at the same tank too.
Thanks mate 👍 well hopefully this vid can give you some ideas about what to think about. I definitely have no regrets.
Cheers
Nath. Glad there's your movement away from a 'Three Letter' 4wd God over here ! Is it getting close to your perfect setup, or is an LC300 GR Sport on your future wanted list to take a new adventure ? V.
Sure is getting close to a perfect setup. There isn't too much more to do in terms of big items, there are a few small tweaks here and there I want to fix up, but overall it certainly has become the perfect vehicle for our family.
I do like the look of the GR sport and the technology it comes with. I am a little concerned with the weights of the new cruisers, being little less that the 200's, which I've already run into issues with. To be honest though, with the price tag and my great vehicle, I won't be selling anytime soon.
Cheers, Nathan.
Really like this setup! I've been looking for this kaymar tire carrier for some time, as most of the info is related to the full bumper setup. Will it fit 2015+ VX trims? Where can I find it stocked? Thanks!
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video.
So the Kaymar bar is available from any ARB stockist as they are the service agents in Aus. It should fit easily into a 2015 VX no problems.
Cheers, Nathan.
Another awesome vid.
I get my Longranger installed next week, did you use John Guest fitting or an alternate? Did you buy a kit or use the bunnings equivalent?
Thanks mate 👍
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it.
So I used a PEX system from Bunnings. I just bought the junctions required and the matching 16mm hoses. It's a similar system to John Guest Fittings, just a different size and brand.
Cheers, Nathan.
Great vid. I noticed u had a GU. I currently have a GU but for years really wanted a 200 but covid tax forced me to look for alternative (GU). I love 4wd,ing but also love touring and towing 3t outback van. Offroad, is the 200 as good as the GU? Would be nice to have the V8 pulling power up Hills, GU struggles a little with 3t.
Love the water pump and tap set up.
Cheers.
Hey mate, yeah I had a '09 GU auto. It was a good 4WD, although the wife might say different. Something was always breaking down.
To be honest, the 200 is a beast. Obviously power wise it blows the GU out of the water and capability, well the 200 goes further without lockers.
The GU was fairly capable, but the 200, particularly the Sahara and VX variants have mutlitaerrain select which is unbelievable off-road and I've only been stuck a handful of times.
For what I do, the 200 wins hands down.
The only thing I don't like with the 200 is the from suspension (CV axles). I'm on my 3rd front drivers side axle now... 😩
@@XploringOz Thanks for your reply. I'll keep my 200 sales search open then. They seem to be dropping slowly in value.
G'day Nathan was looking at those wheel carriers but am concerned as to possible issues while having the caravan hooked up ,did you consider that and were there any problems,cheers mate great review thanks again.
Yeah, so problems with vans could be an issue, but this would be depending on individual setups. Because I run a decent lift, I use a drop hitch, which keeps the tow ball and associated parts out of the way.
My new van has also been ordered with an extended drawbar which helps with room at the rear of the vehicle.
Cheers, Nathan.
Hi mate.
I saw this on another cruiser today and was put on to you via Perth 200 series fb page. May I ask where you had this fitted please? Thank you
G'day mate, so I got my setup fitted at ARB Wangara. To date these guys have been the most knowledgeable and helpful with all my queries. I fitted the pump and plumbing myself though...
Cheers, Nathan.
Awesome video, love the content mate. Just wondering if all the reverse sensors and camera work normally with the bar on?
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback. So I can't confirm if the reverse sensors work, I just don't use them.... ever. I have been told they do (obviously minus the one that had be removed) but like I said can't confirm.
Yes the reverse camera works perfectly. On the 200 series the reverse camera is offset to the passenger side and the signal drivers side tyre carrier barely interferes at all.
Cheers, Nathan.
Man this is going to be one heavy 200, even more so if you dump a van on the back. Your 4t gvm upgrade might not be enough!! Maybe you should get a 4x4 truck instead. Great video as always Nath. well researched and thought over but starting to wonder if you've got the right vehicle. You are asking a lot of this one.
Yeah, I guess the positive here is that I'm aware of it and will make sure that I'm legal and safe when I hit the road. I'll get onto documenting the weights and see how we pull up.
I actually did come very, very close to buying a dedicated truck setup, however a truck just wouldn't get to the places I go. I love my tight a technical driving...
Cheers,
Hi Nathan, good video mate, as usual. What has this addition done to your GVM?
Thanks mate. I'll be releasing a video soon on the weights... some interesting results there....
Cheers.
Hi mate looks really practical. I was wondering if the water was heated by the fuel. Thanks👍
Cheers mate. Yes it has been a great system so far and very happy with how it's turned out. Negative on the water heater, there is not heater in this system... yet anyway.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz I didnt mean a heater as such. i was refering to the return fuel from the engine heating the fuel and in tern heating the water in the tank
@@tapwater9843 Sorry, probably should have read the comment properly 🤦♂️ So it hasn't been effected as much as I though it would have. Although it does get a little warmer, there is no doubt that higher ambient temperature has a much bigger effect on the water temp.
Cheers, Nathan.
Thanks mate. Enjoy your practical approach and content 👍
@@tapwater9843 Cheers mate, appreciate it
Nathan, are you getting a plastic task in the water from the filler hose?
Hey mate, not that I've noticed. I'm not really someone who is fussy on water, but I'm definitely happy to drink the water coming from the tank (obviously filtered with food grade hoses to fill).
Cheers.
Love ya work! And how thorough / descriptive you are with everything! Having the same year and model I take and use a lot of your advise! Cheers👍
Awesome mate, glad to hear you're enjoying the channel and the videos. Hopefully I can make the mistakes for you 😂
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz gday Nathan! Was wondering if you had any adjustment recommendations for the bp51 comp. and rebound no.s??
Same car with the OME 4015 gvm, bps and 400kg constant rear springs. Tow a roughly 3t van. Any suggestions would be muchly appreciated! Cheers👍
@@brad69rambler Hey mate, so to be completely honest, I'm still playing around with the 'perfect' settings at the moment. I'm generally running on the stiffer side. Running the compression about 2 numbers higher than the rebound. This seems to work well, but obviously it would depend how heavy your vehicle is and the terrain you are driving as too how high you set them. I'm set right up the top end at the moment, but probably a little too stiff for an empty vehicle. Cheers.
@@XploringOz cheers Nathan👍 thanks for your time! I guess I’ll have to just crawl under a few times until I find a good setting! Cheers
@@brad69rambler Yeah, unfortunately that's probably the only and best way to setup it up. Its all worth it when you get it just right from your vehicle though!
i think this video is one of your best well done :)
Thanks mate, I appreciate that.
Cheers.
Hey Nathan
Can I please ask what it cost for rear wheel carrier installed. I got a 2020 Gxl and got told I'll lose the rear sensor and to go a rear bar instead. Now I'm thinking I can go without rear sensor as I haven't needed one in all my driving life anyway, and planning on keeping the vehicle for the next 15 yrs or so. I'm leaning towards going the same way you have. Extra weight is an issue for me to and don't tow anything.
Cheers m8, and great video.
Hey mate, so from memory I believe it was around the $2500 mark (give or take a little). I'm still happy with the choice and the functionality of this system. Yes, I guess it would render the sensors ineffective as the carrier covers one up on the drivers side, however I too have never used them prior and don't really mind if they don't work.
Weight was the biggest influence for me and this still has to be one of the best weight/convenience solutions to date.
I actually have a video coming out next Thursday regarding the weight of the cruiser, so that may be one interest to you?
Cheers, Nathan
Would love to know the weights as we are looking at adding an extra tank and water to our cruiser 79 SC
Cheers
For sure mate, I'll start looking at getting onto documenting the new weights on the cruiser. Bit scared to see the results though to be honest, but it has to be done...
Cheers, Nathan.
Hey Nathan. What are your thoughts on duel jerry can holder and swing away wheel carrier on factory bar. I can get the jerry can holder for $200.
Will it work in your opinion on factory bar
Hey mate, yeah I've always liked that idea too and I think it would work no problems. I didn't go for it as I just don't need, especially given that I'll have the trailer soon which can carry more of my gear.
Cheers.
Can you confirm the distance to empty is accurate still and did you need to move you reverse camera?
Hey mate, as briefly mention in the video, the fuel gauge own't perform like it did form factory, there really isn't much we can do about this. I have however noticed that the distance to empty, although inaccurate when the tank is full, will still come down with the tank level until it's empty. So it becomes more accurate as the level is lower, if that makes sense.
Yes, the reverse camera works perfectly. The 200 series camera is slightly offset to the passenger side and the single carrier on the drivers side barely has any effect whatsoever.
Cheers, Nathan.
Gday, I'm getting one of these pumps, the manual says don't use rigid piping (maybe just to cover themselves) have you had any issue with leaks or pump issues with the smartex stuff?
Hey mate, to be honest did read that 😂
I personally had no dramas with my system, both in the vehicle or in the 12V portable box I built previously using the same material.
Cheers, Nathan.
Love to know the weight after, knowing that I have an 2016 VX, recently weighed with just driver and it’s 3430kg’s. Loaded with half tank 3 kids and all the fruit it came in at 3840kg with a GVM of 3800.
Yeah man, I hear you. The weights add up soo quickly. I'll get onto documenting the weights on this cruiser, although I'm a little worried to see the results....
Cheers, Nathan.
Looking to adopt the same tyre carrier but struggling to find anything online. Do you know the part # for the Kaymar bar?
Hmm, I have heard rumours that they may have discontinued this bar, but I would probably check with your local ARB dealer as they are the stockist for Kaymar. I'm sure they have the most up to date info around at the moment.
Cheers, Nathan.
Love it, subscribed
G'day Nathan. Definitely would love to see the impact the new mods will have to the Cruiser. With the extra weight ( when both tanks are full ) plus the tow ball weight once you get your van, that feels like its a lot of additional weight to the back. What potential impact will it have on steering if any ? Great video and it makes me wonder at times that I may have fallen for the hype in that I need every mod .... well, of course I don't. Thanks again
Seems like the weight issue is definitely a popular topic and I'll be going over the weigh bridge soon enough to see how I'm going, despite the anxiety...
I haven't noticed any steering impact, but I do believe this is largely due to the adjustable rear suspension airbags, which help re-distribute some of the weight back to the front axle.
Hey, the most important thing is that you are happy with the setup you have, it's never about comparing with others. I probably go a little overboard with my gear, both for the purposes of TH-cam to compare and review, but also because I enjoyed the process so much (against the will of my bank account...)
Thanks again Jim, hope things are still going well for you on the road.
Cheers.
Things are going well at the moment. We’re in The Alice and just witnessed the Todd River flowing. Never seen it before.
We have weight issues with our setup that I have been trying to resolve since the organisation sold me the van. Talk about a steep learning curve. Cheers mate and stay safe
@@overlandphotography Very cool. I saw some footage from that, but it would have been something else to see in person!
Yes, weights are that monster in the closet that most people just want to ignore as it's hard to deal with. All the best your your setup, let me know if I can be of any help at all.
How much did the rear spare tyre bracket and long range tank make to rig ? Looking at doing the same at the moment
Hey mate, are you referring to weight or cost?
Cheers, Nathan.
Great 👍🏼 info mate!
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers, Nathan.
I am interested in the wheel carrier.
How much and where did you get it?
Hey mate, so the Kaymar products are available from most (if not all) ARB stockists. I personally got my one from ARB Wangara (Western Australia) and it cost around the $2000 mark fitted.
It's not the most popular item that Kaymar have, so stockists normally have to order it in, so it could take some time and is something to consider.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz ok thanks.
Nice work..
Thanks mate, appreciate it.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
What was your total gvm bro
I'm running around 3700kg GVM. I have an ARB upgrade to 3845kg at the moment, so definitely getting close. This was weighed with full tanks.
@@XploringOz cheers bro
thanks very helpful
No worries mate, glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers, Nathan.
Recess those lights?
Potentially, to be honest I've just come to accept them as they are. I don't really see them anyway 😂
I wish i had installed 122/55 L tank instead of the 180 L long ranger tank I have.
I'm still loving the benefits of this tank. The extra diesel can be helpful for those long trips, but this combination tank is performing well and proving very useful 👍
@@XploringOz It is a great product. I fitted mine in 2012 and have no problem. At the time in Southern Africa getting quality fuel was a challenge in remote places hence I went with 180L. If I recall the 122/55 L was 15/16 kg heavier than 180L tank. Anyway my setup is pretty stable, I have capacity to carry 80L water plus 270 L diesel so no chance of changing.
@@boymeetsbush8232 Very nice, sounds like a great setup! Yes, I can believe this tank is a little heavier, there is no doubt more weight in the double skin between the tanks 👍
Great vid & idea on the Kaymar "Minimalist" wheel carrier!! What was the damage for it??
For sure, it's a great idea and works really well. So it wasn't cheap at about $2000 fitted from a ARB store in Perth.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz Compared to $5K for the full bar - its a great option!
@@ianneill1400 Absolutely. Save on $$$ and on KG's!
Trade it in for a defender
Haha, yeah that won't be happening anytime soon. Love this car...
New defender has a 1000kg payload😛
@@michaelhermans4753 Haha, good payload, but I couldn't bring myself to do it... Don't know how you would go about getting parts in the desert for those...
@@XploringOz
Does the local desert servo have ECUs for 200s?
@@grahameroberts8109 I doubt it, but then again the ECU isn't really the type of spare I was referring too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not brand loyal to any manufacturer. I buy the best vehicle (or anything for that matter) that suits my requirements. Having worked in remote regional towns of Western Australia for the last 10 years it cannot be argued that Toyota's are the easiest to find parts/spares for. Hence the phrase 'Landcruiser Country'. This doesn't mean that others can't be sourced, or that a Landcruiser will be fixed in a day, what this means is that its more likely that you will be able to find your part, or at least access the part quicker and easier with a Toyota then most other manufactures.
To be honest if something happened to my cruiser, my replacement vehicle wouldn't be a Toyota, simply because of the high price and this therefore doesn't meet my requirements, however I guarantee it wouldn't be a defender...
Everyone has their own requirements, but living and working in remote areas with dependents, I'm always going to choose a manufacturer that gives me the highest chance of survival and the ability to continue on my adventure and that is without a doubt, Toyota.
Wow that beard! Looks like it was sprayed on…..
Haha, nah glued...😂